Manuel and Patricia Oliver, Change the Ref

On Valentine's Day 2018, Joaquin Oliver, 17 years old, was killed along with 16 others in a mass shooting at his high school in Parkland, Florida. Two weeks later, his parents Manuel and Patricia created the organization Change the Ref, becoming remarkable advocates for curbing gun violence in America. On this episode, we chat with Manny and Patricia about their celebrated work, the recent escalation of their tactics, how they work with agencies, and why they see art and creativity as the ultimate weapon in the battle against guns.