806: The King of Drag and Drop: Alex Reardon
Aug 09, 2024•56 min
Episode description
Scott and Wes talk with Alex Reardon from Atlassian about developing drag-and-drop libraries, specifically the challenges with creating efficient and accessible drag-and-drop functionalities for the web. They also explore what it takes to build and implement a system that works seamlessly across various frameworks.
Show Notes- 00:00 Welcome to Syntax!
- 01:18 Brought to you by Sentry.io.
- 01:51 What Alex does at Atlassian
- 04:38 What makes drag and drop tricky.
- 06:38 Use-cases.
- 10:54 What security is in place?
- 12:30 How to make it feel native.
- 19:20 Is the drag and drop spec ongoing?
- 20:03 How do you build this headless?
- 21:33 How does drag and drop work with frameworks?
- 23:48 Making drag and drop feel the same across mobile and desktop.
- 26:09 What’s the key to really good drag performance?
- 29:58 How do you make drag and drop accessible?
- 34:57 Pragmatic drag and drop code vs application code.
- 40:00 How does testing work?
- 43:15 Internal adoption at Atlassian.
- 44:27 Working on high-impact projects.
- 49:15 Versioning and internal adoption at Atlassian.
- 51:29 Sick Picks + Shameless Plugs.
- Alex: Coffee, James Hoffmann YouTube Channel.
- Alex: Dom Events.
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