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Rooftop Solar Boom Turns Australian Power Prices Red

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Rooftop solar is celebrating a runaway success in Australia, which has positioned itself to become a renewable energy superpower. From a target of doubling its renewable energy capacity by 2030 to $1.2 billion in the federal budget dedicated to the clean energy sector, the country has big plans for its energy transition. Yet the country still has a ways to travel before reaching its goals, with substantial legacy coal-fired power stations still contributing to the energy mix.

On today’s show, Dana is joined by Leonard Quong, BloombergNEF’s Head of Australia Research. Together they discuss the state of the energy transition in Australia, including how large volumes of rooftop solar are leading to negative power prices, the country’s ambitions to become a leader in green hydrogen, and how its exports of coal, liquefied natural gas and other commodities continue to shape the region. 

Complementary BNEF research on the trends driving the transition to a lower-carbon economy can be found at BNEF<GO> on the Bloomberg Terminal or on bnef.com

Links to research notes from this episode:

1H 2024 Australia Market Outlook - https://www.bnef.com/insights/33285?context=eyJjb250ZW50VHlwZSI6Imluc2lnaHQiLCJpbnNpZ2h0LXR5cGUiOls4XSwicmVnaW9uIjpbImF1cyJdLCJzZWN0b3IiOltdLCJhdXRob3IiOltdfQ==

 

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Speaker 1

This is Dana Perkins and you're listening to Switched on the BNAF podcast. Each week we bring on a different B and EF analyst to the show and we talk to them about a piece of research that they've written. And really, if you're anything like me, I hope this research helps you think about the things that might be in your peripheral vision, the stuff that you're not working on day to day, but to stay up to date on all of the different things that are happening in

the transition now. It can be hard sometimes given that there's so much going on within different sectors and different parts of the world. And today we're going to dig a little bit deeper on a specific country. We're going to talk about Australia. The reason I'm really excited to talk about Australia is because oftentimes people think about it as a sandbox due to the size of the country and the nimbleness of the government. When they do something, they can move a little bit faster and the rest

of the world can really learn from it. We also go to think about Australia and the role that they have historically played as a hydrocarbon exporting nation for things like coal, and increasingly now natural gas. But let's really think about the role that Australia can play as that sandbox,

and let's think about the energy transition. They've announced that they intend to double renewable energy capacity by twenty thirty and the federal government has really underlined this aim by handing the clean energy sector the equivalent of one point two billion US dollars as a part of their federal budget.

One of the things we're going to drill into in more detail will be solar because Australia's really been an adopter of this, both at the utility and residential level, and that has actually led to some negative power prices. So what does that do to the economics? Now. To tell us more about Australia and what's happening there is Bonif's head of Australia Research, Leonard Kwang. He's based out of our Sydney office and certainly knows a thing or

two as he lives and breathes this. He's going to use a recent report that he wrote, which is about the first half of twenty twenty four and what is called our Australia Market Outlook. If you want to take a closer look at that market outlook and read the report. BNEF subscribers are going to be able to find it at bu go on the Bloomberg terminal or at BNF dot com. Make sure to subscribe to switched on wherever you get your podcasts, and give us a review to

help other people discover the show. But right now, let's talk to Lenny about our outlook for Australia. Lenny, great to have you here today and thanks for joining the show.

Speaker 2

Dang, long time listener, first time call up, overall, big fan of your work and it's a pleasure to be here.

Speaker 1

And you're joining us from our Sydney office and we're here to talk about Australia and what is really a true energy transition story. I mean one where a country that has a lot of natural resources and is largely known as one of the world's exporters of things like coal is going through the transition as other parts of the world are, but actually in some respects at a faster pace depending upon the industry that we're looking at. So we're going to get into that today and talk

about what that transition looks like in Australia. But can you set the baseline how should the world be thinking about Australia and well, essentially in their place where they're at in this transition.

Speaker 2

Absolutely so, I think it's important to give context to listeners who might be familiar with the idea of Australia but not with the country itself. We recognize we're a long way away from the rest of the world now. By some of the numbers, Australia has a relatively wealthy population, but an incredibly low number of people compared to its land mass. To give some relative figures, it is thirty seven times larger than the United Kingdom, but it has

only about forty percent of its population. For our US listeners, Australia is about eighty percent of the land masks of the US, but only the population of Texas. So it has a lot of land that's sparsely populated, but it does have a lot of stuff in it. It has a lot of animals that can kill you, which I think a lot of people think about when they think of Australia, unless like the late Great Stevia, when there's not much you can do with dead animals to drive economic growth in a country.

Speaker 3

It also has a lot of very high quality.

Speaker 2

Wind and solar resources some of the best in the world, and as a result it can produce some of the least cost wind and solar generation. And while that is likely to play a role in its economic prosperity in the years ahead, today it has very little role in the domestic energy system and the economic story. But what Australia also has is an enormous bounty of natural resources. Really, any mineral or resource you can think of, Australia probably

has somewhere in its borders. It has precious and rare earth metals, has a large amount of industrial metals exports copper and bulk side. It's the world's largest exporter of iron or It also has an enormous amount of battery and transition metals, an enormous amount of hydrocarbons like gas where it's vye with the US and guitar to be the world's largest exporter of LNG, and an enormous amount of coal.

Speaker 3

And it is the world's largest exporter of coal.

Speaker 2

Now, if you put some numbers about production to exports, about ninety one percent of all the black coal produced in Australia were sent off shore, and about the same time about seventy five percent of its natural gas extraction was destined Velini exports, and this was to countries like China, Japan, South Korea and other countries.

Speaker 3

Across the Asia Pacific region as well.

Speaker 2

And so as you might expect, these export industries, these extractions, these mining industries have played a very significant role in the country's economic story and have formed a very important part of the Australian sense of national identity and of its national politics. And of all these extraction industries, historically, at least in many parts of the country, coal was keen.

To give you a particularly shining example of this, former Prime Minister Scott Morrison once got up in Federal Parliament holding a lump of coal in an attempt to scare the opposition. Now this sounds like it might be an anecdote for many decades ago, but this happened just back in twenty and seventeen, and this is a real example of the dynamics, the complicated politics and the relationships with

coal and extraction industries that Australia has faced. Because of these challenges, for much of the past twenty years, Australia has struggled with its decarbonization trajectory, often flip flopping on policies, ambitions, and targets. Being famously the first country in the world to both introduce and remove a price on carbon, it has increased and decreased and removed and increased again renewable

energy targets and aspirations. And while over recent years it feels like Australia is turning a corner on its decarbonization plans and becoming more paras aligned to the years ahead, it's expected that extraction industries and things like coal and gas will continue to play an important role in the economy of Australia for the foreseeable future.

Speaker 1

That was an incredible amount of information around numerous industries that Australia is in and why don't we start with the exporting part of the market, because really, when we talk about hydrocarbons, that is the starting point for a transition and the baseline with which we can really have

that discussion about what is changing. And one of the things that Australia has actually had is headline in the news more recently has been around really a commitment to natural gas in saying that they intend to continue with natural gas through twenty fifty and I'd really like to better understand from your perspective where you think that really

originates from, given that the transition is certainly happening. Is it more around the export revenues or the role that natural gas can play is an important source of flexible capacity for knowables or is there something else that maybe I'm not understanding regarding the commitment to natural gas in the long term.

Speaker 3

It's a great question.

Speaker 2

And let me give you some context of natural gas as an extraction and export industry for Australia to put

it in some context. Now, amongst this stable of export commodities that Australia has through mining an extraction, natural gas is one of the most recent additions that has really just scaled up over the past decade really from about twenty and sixteen, so really quickly, Australia went from a very closed off self supplying market for all its gas demand, began to rapidly scale up its extraction, particularly of coal seam gas throughout many different states Queensland, Western Australia and

now the Northern Territory as well, to become a global

player in this export commodity. And due to that rapid change of pace, Australia has struggled to keep up with its longer term vision around what natural gas and other hydrocarbons might mean for its economic story, either domestically or from an export's perspective, and this becomes increasingly important when we've established valuable trading relationships with other nations both around the Asia Pacific region from China, Japan, South Korea, Taiwan

and many others, as well as our visions of what Australia might transition to over the longer term in terms of exports as the world transitions to.

Speaker 3

A lower carbon future as well.

Speaker 2

And so I think right now, particularly within political circles across the country, they're not at the time they're looking to make enemies.

Speaker 3

They're not willing or looking to rule anything out. Even if we look.

Speaker 2

At commodities like thermal coal use for power generation far more carbon intensive in terms of its scope three impact on the world, we're sending it primarily to countries who have targeted low or no carbon ambitions of their own by twenty fifty or by twenty sixty, and that tells Australia its investment and export communities that we are at some point going to have to transition away from the

status quo. There is some hope that we might find other economies to export these hydrocarbons to, particularly emerging economies. They're rapidly growing appetite for energy, although that comes hard up against the need for the world to decrease its carbon emissions in line with the net zero future, to

stay in a well below two degrees scenario. And so the government, who is in charge of directing policy, signaling to investors, signaling to industry what the future might hold is as of yet really welcoming all comers, and so we might hold views that the future role of gas isn't quite as rosy as the Australian government is currently suggesting, and some of the newer industries it's looking at, like transition metals, potentially hydrogen and hydrogen drived clean products play

a more important role, although this transition from traditional to new has to be managed and might not be as smooth as the government is hoping.

Speaker 1

So there's certainly a pivot there for Australia in terms of the fact that there just really are an abundance of natural resources to call upon. So you're even saying, you know, natural gas has a future, but it may not be quite as long as predicted at this point in time. But then there are these transition metals that we see or battery metals that we see as a part of you know, the electric vehicle and stationary storage supply chain. But then how about the thing that they

are known for being the largest exporter of coal. Now that is actually huge because you see coal retirements happening in developed countries all over the world, saying that we are committed to bringing these down as a really kind of quick way to reduce emissions from the power sector. When it comes to coal, what is the state of play for Australia. Are they seeing fewer exports? Is that declining?

Have we reached peak demand? And then after we talk about the exporting element, I then want to come to domestically are they using it? Is it largely exported but internally being used only sparingly in that transition to renewables is happening. Can you talk a little bit about the role of coal both out of the country and in the country.

Speaker 2

So I think it's important to break coal out into two major classes, if you will. Thermal coal which is used for power generation, and that's for the production of electricity, which you're talking about in terms of major uses, being carbon intensive but important for electricity supply in global markets. The other is metallurgical coal coal which is often used in metal processes, particularly for steel manufacturing.

Speaker 3

Now we've seen some very interesting trade.

Speaker 2

Dynamics unfold for Australia over recent years, particularly more volatile on the end of thermal coal. It was only a couple of years ago where famously China banned or thermal coal imports for the country, although at the same time they did continue to allow metallurgical coal. And we've seen very volatile global markets for coal prices, in part driven by the energy crisis as much as invasion of Ukraine, in part due to waxing and waning supply and demand

dynamics across the region. Now, if we look into the future, what we see in our longer term analysis here at BNF is that the world is going to have to dramatically reduce its reliance on thermal coal, in particular in order to stay on a low carbon trajectory to stay within the Paris targets. If we look within the Australian market,

the story is similar, if slightly more advanced. Now, given what I've said and what we've talked about the role of coal being a superpower of economic force in Australia in years gone by, it probably wouldn't surprise you to hear that coal generation made up the backbone of power supply in the country's electricity system. But now Australia's once mighty coal fleet is facing structural decline, and the question

is increasingly when, not if it will exit the market completely. Now, to put some numbers to that, about fifteen years ago coal accounted for about seventy five percent of Australia's electricity generation, and today it accounts for roughly forty seven percent. Now, coal generators are a bit like old car. As they get older, it can get a little bit less efficient.

It might have a harder time speeding up and slowing down, and they might start to break down more often, becoming less reliable and more costly to repair, maintain, and retrofit

to keep them running efficiently. And when you take into account that many of Australia's coal assets were never built to be particularly flexible or efficient to begin with, you can begin to see some of the challenges that Australia might face when you realize that Australia hasn't built a new coal generator in its domestic market for over ten years now, but we continue to send coal offshore to

supply others who are building you coal generation. But the domestic fleet is of now about thirty one years old on average, and most coal plants around the world are built with an expected operational life of between forty to fifty years, and so if you run the numbers on the age of these assets, by twenty thirty, you would expect about twenty three percent of the fleet twiggs of the market just due to aging out, and by twenty forty this would be about fifty two percent of the remaining assets.

Speaker 3

Now.

Speaker 2

Over the past decade, Australia has seen a rapid rise in investment and supply coming from variable newbal energy sources and this has had a pretty big impact on the coal fleet. Again, going back fifteen years to two thousand and nine, Australia had about twenty nine gigawatts of operating coal capacity. This was running with a capacity factor a

utilization of about seventy three percent. Today, coal capacities down to about twenty three gigawatts and it's operating with the utilization rate closer to sixty percent, and it is really not ideal for capacity designed to operate as a base load where you want higher utilization to disperse your returns.

Speaker 3

Over higher capex and running costs.

Speaker 2

So we can see coal is beginning to be squeezed out now. Following the last federal election in twenty twenty two, the newly elected Labor government came in with a raft of new commitments to decarbonization, including a commitment to reach a forty three percent missions reduction on two thousand and five levels by twenty thirty, as well as reaching eighty two percent renewable energy supply in the domestic market over

the next six years. Some other commitments like reaching eighty nine percent of all new light duty vehicles being electrified by the year twenty thirty as well. And overall you can see that these policy ambitions and increasingly the policy mechanisms that support them, are likely to have a dramatic impact on the remaining.

Speaker 3

Coll asets in the country. Now.

Speaker 2

Last year we did a piece of work looking asset by asset at both the policy drivers, the underlying economics the assets life and operational health, along with various corporate, government and owner commitments for closure, and we found that by twenty thirty five, about eighty three percent of Australia's remaining coal assets are likely to exit the market, which is a very dramatic fall from both where we are today and certainly from where we were just a decade ago.

Speaker 1

So, Lenny, you just mentioned how coal is getting squeezed out by renewable So let's then do that pivot to this part of the transition. What's happening. How large of a role do renewables play in the national electricity market in Australia's mix, So the.

Speaker 2

Role of renewables is rapidly increasing, and thank you for mentioning the national tricity market. That the initiation should probably give you a very quick geography lesson. So Australia's almost land masks can be broken up into several different grids. By far, the largest, representing about eighty five percent of electricity demand, sits on the east to southeast coast of the country and covers most of the major cities and townships.

There are a series of smaller grids throughout the rest of the countries and are being for the larger towns and are being for mining sides, but really a lot of the action in the country does happen within the national electricity market. But if you zoom out and look at what role of what impact renewables are having across the country, it can be useful to put some numbers to that as well. Back in two thousand and nine, renewable energy accounted for about eight percent of total electricity

generation in Australia. Today this is closer to thirty four percent of the market. Now, this is a pretty significant amount of growth, even if it's over quite an extended period of time. But this is an annual figure and if we drill into it, we can see some pretty extraordinary incidences within the market being caused by renewable energy.

Speaker 3

If you look at the.

Speaker 2

Fourth quarter of last year, across that East Coast market, on average in the middle of the day, wind and solar combined accounted for about sixty three percent of electricity generation.

And again if we drill and even further, there were particular days in certain hours where wind and solar accounted for over one hundred percent of electricity demand in certain regions of the grid, in this case in South Australia, and there were even still hours of the day when behind the meter solar capacity alone was supplying more demand than the state had at that point in time. So to spell that out, consumers in South Australia have been producing more power at certain hours of the year than

the whole state is consuming in terms of electricity. It's pretty remarkable. Now, other firms of generation were operating at that same time, the interconnectors to other states were able to move that excess supply into other regions. But just from those figures alone, you can see that the impact that wind and particularly solar is having on the market.

Speaker 1

The question what is it doing to prices?

Speaker 2

So this is really where we're seeing Australia becoming an interesting case study in the impact of high amounts of renewable energy generation. So, on one hand, as I mentioned, we have this immovable object, a fleet of baseload coal assets which were inflexible and getting more inflexible as they

get older. They don't or can't ramp down when renewable energy generation are ramping up, and so they might be tempted to bid into the market negative pricing, that is, paying to stay online in order to not further damage their assets or to be available when prices might increase later on.

Speaker 3

And on the other side, we have this unstoppable force.

Speaker 2

This wave, a tsunami of renewable energy generation, particularly in the middle of the day and with rooftop solar and not responding to price signals from the wholesale market.

Speaker 3

These two forces are colliding now.

Speaker 2

These renewable energy resources are hollowing out this midday demand period. We've talked about a duck curve. This is beyond that. It's beyond a swan curve. It's into a Bronzsaurus curve or any other form of long neck dinosaur that might be your favorite. And the impact on electricity prices is remarkable. Across all of last year, in that East Coast system, prices and the spot market were below zero fourteen percent of the time. This is a seventy four percent increase

from the year prior. In the fourth court of last year, in South Australia, spot price and electricity market were below zero thirty two percent of the time. And this is of course having a massive impact on the value of the rest of the generation fleet, in particular self cannibalizing effect on other forms of renewable energy generation there have been multiple months now across the country where the value

of large scale solar generation is below zero. To give you a more clear example, in December of twenty twenty two, in South Australia, utility solar generators paid an average of twelve Australian dollars per mega what hour for the privilege of generating. That's how low and how frequently below zero

wholesale prices were. And if we look to the future as the government races towards its ambitious renewable energy targets in years twenty three, if we can't see this bulk of coal capacity getting out of the way fast enough, and if we can't manage to shift demand either through flexible price signals or through energy storage, we would expect this trend of negative prices to only get worse.

Speaker 1

So I want to better understand how that market is structured because you have varying degrees displayed around the world, but one that is often talked about as being very

liberal is urcut in Texas. That's the Texas grid. So I want to know how similar is the national electricity market, given that this is eighty percent of the country's demand, How similar is that to air cut and is installing this capacity really just down to whether or not companies want to do it, And they're building this network of the future, and we're hoping that demand will actually end up kind of evening out in the prices, will level out with natural market forces, or is it more regulated

and is this very intentional and intentional push to actually get more renewables online.

Speaker 3

So it's a bit of both and a bit of all the above really.

Speaker 2

Now to explain the Australian market structure again, particularly the national electricity market, and I'm just going to call it in then for now, it's a very liberalized, very open market. Now in terms of market players, utilities in our system can operate power generation capacity and they can hold a retail a demand book, so you can create electricity and you can sell electricity in the middle within the networks.

These are largely natural monopolies and they're held by separate entities, so distribution companies or transmission companies who build, maintain and operate the polls and wires that move those electrons around. Now, what's been driving this renewable energy capacity in the years gone by has.

Speaker 3

Been a mix of improving economics.

Speaker 2

For years, building new wind and solar has been cheaper than building any other form of new electricity generation in the country, and with sawing fuel prices particularly over recent years, building new wind and solar has been cheaper at times then operating the existing coal and gas assets in the market. It's also been driven by government policy to some extent.

This has been done at the federal level, but also state and territory governments playing a very important role in driving up renewable energy generation in their home grids, and corporates too have a role to play. We've seen quite a rise of demand from corporate entities and utilities looking to on sell clean power to their own consumers, who are all contributing to this rise in recent years of renewable energy supply.

Speaker 1

So, if I'm understanding things correctly, Australia really has times of day where negative prices are a real problem from market design standpoint and also creating profitability for some of the companies that are actually operating in the energy system. So can you talk to me a little bit about where the opportunities lie. You know, what is it that companies are actually looking to invest in in Australia or is this really causing a bit of a standstill.

Speaker 2

I think one of the things we've seen in Australia recently, particularly driven in by the rise in volatility and the increase in negative pricing events, is a real reassessment of what investment opportunities look like across the energy system. Now in some of the causes of this volatility the rooftop solar market, which again respond to very different price signals from other large scale generating assets.

Speaker 3

The impact of negative pricing has.

Speaker 2

Eroded some of the value of these investments, but they still remain fairly attractive for the typical Australian household, although to a lesser extent to small businesses and industrial consumers as well. Now it's important to highlight here the history. Australia is one of the world's most decentralized markets and if we look at the numbers and noscile, systems has been sold around the country to now cover one in three households, accounting for about twenty three gigawatts of rooftop

solar capacity. And with these negative pricings that we have seen throughout the wholesale market, the value of electricity generated from these systems has fallen both in terms of the electricity fed into the grid through feed in tariffs, which Australia doesn't really have outside of a few regions of the country any mandatory feed in tariffs. Most of this is up to the discretion of the local utility to decide and value and potentially attract additional consumers through higher

solar feed and tariffs under certain rate designs. But this erosion of midday prices has also caused an introduction of new tariff design models for consumers, incentivizing shifting demand towards the middle of the day when electricity prices are at their lowest, and to reduce consumption in those afternoon periods when solar ramps down and more expensive forms of generation have to come online to keep the system in balance. Now, there have been some teething problems with deploying these cost

deflective tariffs across the country. They're much more complicated than the traditional flat tariff design and in some cases can decentivize some of the cleaner technologies like rooftop solar that customers across the country really like to see both to manage electricity bills but also feel like they're having a positive impact on their own carbon footprint, and even though across the world we have seen falling solar module prices,

we haven't necessarily seen that trickle through into the residential or small scale market In Australia. A lot of that has to do with managing the inventory of price fluctuation of the recent years. It has to do with rolling off of upfront subsidy schemes and also a softening in the Australian dollar. But that doesn't mean Australia is installing less behind the meter solar generation. Last year was a near record year for new installations in capacity terms, with

an estimated three point two gigawa's constructed. Now a lot of that had to do with the energy crisis across the world and here in Australia in twenty twenty two. A direct consequence of that was rising retail tariffs, which went up by about forty percent by July of twenty twenty three, and as customers rolled on too larger bills, they turned to solar in larger numbers in order to reduce their consumption from the grid while retail electricity prices

were high. And the other factor is that Australians have a love of these rooftop solar systems and they have a comfort of playing manywhere between five to seven thousand Australian dollars to install one, and as a consequence, any cost reductions from modules or through subsidies results in larger and larger systems being built, and by our numbers, towards the end of last year, these were inching up closer to nine kilowatts of solar per system in stall, which

compared to most of the rest of the world is incredibly large.

Speaker 3

And a result of these forces.

Speaker 2

Looking forward, we think the march of rooftop solar across Australia will continue. We believe installation rates have peaked back in twenty twenty one at over three point three gigawatts and these could fold to about one point six gigawats vnual installations by twenty thirty maybe about one point nine gigawats by twenty thirty five if we see an increase

in commercial and industrial systems. But the cumulative impact of this area of technology in the market could represent about forty five gigawatts of behind the meita capacity that responds to very different price signals than generation assets connected to the wholesale market. Which these other forms of either balancing technologies or supportive infrastructure are going to have to work around.

Speaker 1

You just noted that price signals are really used for being used to manage demand and to spread it out to the times when prices are lowest. But the other

way to tackle this is actually through storage. So I want to better understand how Australia is approaching the concept of storage, whether at the residential level, which pairs very nicely with residential solar, or at the utility level when we're thinking about battery infrastructure being used to really bring down those peaks and to spread that, you know, solar energy throughout the times when the sun isn't shining.

Speaker 2

So Australia has a really interesting history within its storage markets if you look at the utility scale of things. It all kicked off back in twenty seventeen following a Twitter bet between Elon Musk and the Australian tech billionaire, And unlike most Twitter bets, this one actually ended in

a reasonably positive result. I mean that was the construction of the one hundred and fifty megawatt Hornsdale Power Reserve, which at that time was by far the biggest litimon battery operating anywhere in the world, and in the years that follows, batteries were continued to be built, pushed on by governments, pushed on by independent power producers, pushed on

by network companies and utilities as well. Today Australia has about one point for gigawatts of utility scale storage operating across the country and this is particularly heavily weighted towards li imaan batteries. State governments have continued to try to outdo each other, building bigger and bigger systems and this has peaked right now with the Acacia Energy Warata super battery, which is eight hundred and fifty megawatts and is currently

under construction. Across the rest of the fleet under construction, we have about four point four gigawatts of battery capacity and this is expected to come online in the months to years ahead. But the rapid increase in battery capacity has had a really interesting result on the dynamics of the power system and the rolls of these storage projects. Years ago, frequency control and auxiliary services, which are the

services required to stabilize the power group. This is offering energy over one second or four seconds, sixty seconds or even five minutes and not participating directly in the wholesale market, but these frequency control and auxiliary services represented the vast

majority of market revenues for batteries. Es are quite shallow and it doesn't quite take a lot of capacity to begin to flood these markets, and by twenty twenty three, on the back of the energy crisis, arbitrage that is, buying when prices are low and selling electricity when prices are high became the majority form of market revenues for

most batteries operating around the country. And if we expect that negative pricing events are likely to become more common as Australia races to meet its renewable energy targets, batteries are going to increasingly play an important role in moderating these fluctuations in wholesale power prices. If we look to the future, we continue to see batteries playing a bigger

and bigger role in the energy system. By our forecast by twenty thirty in additional seven point four gigawats of batteries could be constructed up to fifteen point three gigawats by twenty thirty five, resulting in a total of about twenty one point three gigawatts. Now increasingly these batteries aren't just getting bigger in terms of megawatts of capacity, diggining bigger in duration of storage as well. When we look

at the operations of these we can see shorter durations. Batteries, whether it's five minutes fifteen minutes, can play a very important role in these smaller balancing services, particularly managing frequency in these power systems. But when you begin to shift larger amounts of energy in response to fluctuating prices, whether they're negative or near zero or incredibly high, you need longer and longer durations as well. And across the country

governments have seen this and are responding in kind. Many of the new policies coming forward to support storage across Australia and now focusing.

Speaker 3

On eight hours or more of duration, and.

Speaker 2

This would include different types of technologies, whether it's pumped hydro compressed air energy storage or other forms of electrochemical batteries. That can play a role in this arbitrage is energy shifting dynamics in the market now, despite the impact that residential solar has had on causing these negative pricing events and the need to begin to shift this energy around

to have a more efficient energy system. Australia has a relatively small residential battery and this is really a artifact

of its policy dynamics. Australia has had some small local schemes to support the uptake of battery storage technologies on behind the meta level that we've never really had a robust national policy, certainly none that would reduce the upfront cost of these batteries like we've seen in the Australian rooftop solar market, and as a consequence, we do see continued growth, but it is significantly further behind compared to

rooftop solar adoption. Now, some of this also has to do with the increased complications of installing and selling solar systems to consumers. Australia has a hyper competitive residential solar market, with many installers often operating within fairly small business operations, and understanding how to economically model pitch to install a

solar system can be more challenging. But if you look in the years ahead, by twenty thirty we expect residential installations to reach about two point one gig what hours per annum, increasing to about two point nine by the year twenty thirty five. Which will mean humulatively, it will play a greater and greater role in beginning to shift some of this excess supply of electricity from the middle of the day to other periods where it's more valuable.

Speaker 1

So behind the meter storage hasn't quite gotten the same adoption that residential solar has up until this point, perhaps due to a lack of policy incentives as you outlined, but it could potentially gain speed as the economics really do end up playing into how people make decisions and whether or not they find it to be useful. So another thing that actually complements residential solar quite well are

electric vehicles. So it's a stability to not only be your own energy generator, but also to be your own generator for the fuel that goes into your car. And what I want to know is have electric vehicles really had a positive uptake in Australia as well, and is that kind of come along with the residential solar boom or has it been separate.

Speaker 2

So it's really been quite separate for a whole host of different reasons. But to lay it out, Australia is a laggart in the adoption of electric vehicles compared to many of its peers. This is largely due to the dynamics of policy and supply.

Speaker 3

It's not really on demand.

Speaker 2

As I mentioned earlier, Australia is quite a wealthy country despite its relatively small population. Households have quite a lot of disposable income, and if we look at the data of purchasing internal combustion engines, have quite a high appetite for very large vehicles, often at quite high prices. But what Australia doesn't have is an automotive industry of its own.

Its last car manufacturing plant closed sometime in twenty seventeen, and for years many areas of politics and policy have seen any move to support the increase or adoption of electric vehicles simply being as a cost on the Australian consumer without a broader economic benefit to a manufacturing base.

That's the consequence of a lack of policy. Has meant that global automotive manufacturers, with a limitive number of evs and their portfolios have simply chosen to prioritize sending those lower missions vehicles to other markets that have more onerous or looming decarbonization targets on their transport fleets.

Speaker 1

And what sort of vehicles would I see on the ground. Are Australians very keen on SUVs or is it more stowns.

Speaker 2

Australians have an increasing love of SUVs, both in the moderately priced range in the local market, which is north of forty thousand Australian dollars up into the excess of hundreds of thousands. But Australias have a particular love of utes as we would call them in the local market, or pickup trucks as you would call them offshore, and

this has been a problem for adoption as well. While we are increasingly seeing electrified SUVs and some limited range of pickup trucks that come with a battery and a plug, there have been limited models available historically and very limited supply available to Australian consumers.

Speaker 3

This is beginning to change.

Speaker 2

The Australian government has set itself an ambitious target of decarbonators in the transport sector on its transition to a low carbon economy and to drive the update of EVS. It's looking to introduce a new policy, the New V Vehicle Efficiency Standard, which will be the primary driver of EVS to.

Speaker 3

The year twenty thirty.

Speaker 2

It's a crediting scheme that sits across automotive manufacturers, benefiting those that sow a portfolio of low missions vehicles and potentially penalizing those that sell carbon intensive cars into the market. And when we've crunched what the policy suggests it might be, we've calculated that light duty vehicles could be sixty five percent electric by the year twenty thirty, which is a

pretty dramatic uptake from where the market is today. And while we might see growth in the policy environment which could be introduced in a few months time, it doesn't mean the transition will be easy.

Speaker 3

Barriers to deployment still remain.

Speaker 2

A lack of model availability for right hand drive markets in the types and cast segments that Australian consumers prefer, as well as an increasing concern about of lack of action on building out the charging infrastructure a very large, very spread out country like Australia would need to see for consumers to feel comfortable to transition over to electric vehicle.

Speaker 1

So I want to now go back to where we started, which is this fun mental premise of Australia natural resources, exporting them around the world, and one form of power that is going to be very useful for the hard to abate sectors or could be very useful for the

hard debate sectors. Is hydrogen Australia has really, you know, over the past few years, has been positioned as a potential exporter of hydrogen and thinking of this idea of generating it in Australia and potentially shipping it around the world. Is that still actively being discussed, especially now that the US has taken such an interest in hydrogen production through the Inflation Reduction Act.

Speaker 2

It absolutely is, although I find right now the conversation has moderated to some extent now Australia still has said its cites on becoming a hydrogen exporting superpower to the world and establishing its role in the global energy transition, particularly as concerns around its current suite of export commodities begins to grow. The abundance of land the high quality nature of wind and solar resources means that Australia is well positioned for the production of low cost hydrae in

the years ahead. It has additional advantages in its position in the Asia Pacific region, with many of its existing trading relationships being with countries who might have energy security concerns of their own, particularly as they look to their decarbonization targets by twenty thirty or even by twenty fifty, and many companies are beginning to capitalize on this opportunity or their perception of it, particular example being Forteskew Future

Industries and the Fortskew Metals Group, who have high pline of proposed projects about twenty gigwats of electoralizer capacity and have recently opened a two gigawatt proton exchange membrane electoralizer

manufacturing facility in Queensland in Australia. Now, on aggregate, if we look across the country, Australia has about one hundred and twenty six gigawatts of proposed electoralizer opacity to produce green hydrogen, which is an enormous amount and it would produce somewhere in the ballpark of about thirteen million tons of green hydrogen per year, far more than the Australian economy domestically could ever hope to can and this is really because of this export opportunity. Now, how that will

manifest is where the problems really begin. The challenges, the costs, the infrastructure required to send liquid hydrogen or hydrogen derivatives offshore could be a challenge, and the economics of their use case in these markets is still being examined. We've seen a lot of interest from markets like Japan, South Korea and even increasingly Taiwan of the role of Australian produced green ammonia to be co fired in their existing

coal assets to reduce their carbon emissions. But increasingly Australia is looking at greener commodities that could be produced with a hydrogen it makes locally with an abundance of iron or in the local market. We're beginning to investigate whether green iron or green steel production could play an important role as an export industry within our existing trading relationships more broadly across the Asia Pacific region, and the government

is really aware of this still. When we run the numbers on promised support, we can account for about forty three billion Australian dollars of earmarked funding a hydrogen or hydrogen related industries or infrastructure, and a flagship program within that is the two billion Australian dollar Hydrogen Headstart program, and this looks to bridge the gap between the cost of supply and the willingness to buy hydrogen from an

export perspective, to support over one gigawatt of electorallyzer capacity by the year twenty thirty. So there still is a lot of conversation. Some of the hype may have dried out over recent years, but the conversation on exactly what the opportunities are I think is getting more sensible and in some cases more serious.

Speaker 1

So within the power system, if Australia is considered to be in some respects this Postcard from the future because of the regulatory environment and just the dynamic nature of the way Australia's power system works, what does that tell us about the future of the energy transition.

Speaker 2

So one of the things I think we've really learned in this Postcard from the Future is that very often energy setne systems, whether it's the infrastructure, policy, environment, the regulation, or the perception of investment opportunity, have been built around the idea of older technologies and older ways of doing business, and that renewable energy, decarbonizing the technologies and accelerating the deployment to a low carbon economy can be very disruptive

to their core. Whether that's around the deployment of physical infrastructure, such as grids, poles, and wires to move electrons around, whether that's the regulatory environment that creates price formations in a wholesale power system, whether that's the way we view

flexible balancing services and technologies as well. The need to accelerate decarbonization efforts brings the need to accelerate change in the systems that support power markets, and those that are too slow to transition, whether it's infrastructure, regulation or policy, can come hard up against disruptive forces as a result, whether that delays in network congestion, whether that's negative pricing, or with that's new forms of volatility and disruptions in

wholesale market price design. It shows that the transition to a low carbon future is a disruptive one, but an incredibly important one for global markets.

Speaker 1

Lenny, thank you very much for joining us today.

Speaker 3

It's always a pleasure.

Speaker 1

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