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Surface Level

A weekly show hosted by longtime friends Jordan, Damon, and Tony, explores the complexities of the Black and Queer experience. Through personal stories, dynamic guests, and curious conversations, this series offers a nuanced understanding of identity, race, and sexuality that goes beyond the surface level, with a touch of humor and a fearless willingness to challenge the norm.
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Episodes

Dad, I’m A Bottom

Damon, Jordan & Tony are curious about the acceptance of queerness among Black men. This episode discusses coming out to our fathers and the impact it had on each of our relationships. Can there be healing from a relationship splintered from coming out? How have our dads fought against the stigma of homophobia among Black men? We discuss celebrity dads we love, the joy and pain of coming out to our fathers, censoring our sexuality around other Black men, and the types of dads we would like t...

Jun 23, 202036 minSeason 1Ep. 4

Last Scene & Last Season

Damon, Jordan & Tony are curious about the space we give artists to be flawed before cancellation. This episode evaluates artists for who they are as people. In the age of social media the expectation is that people let you into their lives. They craft their persona in a way that exposes their talent but also their flaws. And we take every opportunity to evaluate each of them. We discuss artists we couldn’t cancel, a certain host’s obsession with Keri Hilson, the social responsibility of pub...

Jun 12, 202034 minSeason 1Ep. 3

The Trade Is Ruining My Life

Damon, Jordan & Tony are curious about the value of masculinity. This episode explores the masc obsession, specifically in the queer community. We work, we worship, we date, we make love, we exercise, we live all through the guise of our relationship with and the external opinions of where we land on the “butch” scale. We discuss gentlemen we’d keep, freak & delete, chasing trade, butching it up when we’re around the heteros, learning to love our femininity, and the parts of the journey ...

Jun 12, 202026 minSeason 1Ep. 2

The Politics Of Quarantine

Damon, Jordan & Tony are curious about the world we could create if we did not fear sacrifice. Our first episode comes at a moment defined by a health crisis that disproportionately affects Black people, and police violence towards Black people…or what our community would call a normal day in America. We discuss the strain of being confined to our New York City apartments for months, shifting to a way of life in which we were forced to be socially distant(ish), our favorite social media brea...

Jun 12, 202040 minSeason 1Ep. 1

Surface Level Trailer

A show that takes a look at society’s expectations and rejects the ones we don’t see it for — all from the perspective of three black, queer best friends.

Jun 03, 202042 sec
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