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What We Learned At The Save Our Children Conference Part 2

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Welcome to this episode of Supernatural Junkies, where Super Alex, Dr. Kevan, Dr. Dennis O'Hara, and Dr. Thomas Dozier gather to discuss the profound revelations from the Save Our Children Conference.

The team dives into standing up against harmful influences targeting children. They explore the significant topic of pronouns in schools and the potential confusion it brings to young minds. The hosts emphasize that children are being groomed under the guise of inclusivity, raising concerns about the true intentions behind these actions.

They reflect on personal stories, including those shared by Walt Heyer, who experienced deep identity crises due to early childhood influences. This episode sheds light on the devastating impact of early confusion and the critical role of parents in safeguarding their children's well-being.

The hosts passionately call for action, urging listeners to get involved in their children's education and to be vigilant against societal pressures. They stress the importance of love, support, and truth in guiding children through these challenging times.

Dr. Dozier concludes with a heartfelt prayer, seeking wisdom and strength for parents and communities to protect the innocence and future of our children.

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Introduction

Hello, everyone. Welcome to Supernatural Junkies. I'm Super Alex. I'm Dr. Kevin, and I am natural today. I guess that means that I will be the junkie. He is definitely got a lot of junk. Wait a minute. I think there might be somebody else here. Yeah, don't leave me off. Who's that? Who's that? Who is that? This is Dr. Dozier, and I'm lifting it up spiritually. That's right. He's pumping you up spiritually. I pump you up. We are here.

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Sans. Ansel Elves? No way she's here. She is barely holding on, folks. But we have a whole crew today. We have Dr. Dennis. We have Dr. Dozer. This is Dr. Dozer here. Glad to be back in the cell. That is the man. He should be the man. Decaf for him next time. What happened? Why did I do that? What happened? I don't know what happened. I don't smoke. What did you put in there? I said, don't order it. Well, we didn't realize the chemical reaction that would happen.

Save Our Children Conference Recap

Anyways god bless you guys we have dr kevin too oh that's right i'm near dr kevin is here in the, sands the monk fruit why don't we talk we still this is we're just talking about our savior children conference so you know we the supernatural junkies guys you know we love come on and talk about all these things and we really feel like it's almost like christians aren't allowed to know the truth anymore and you know we stopped fighting for the truth even you know we we got a chance

to release a couple videos now coming up our first two videos from the conference one was of course our expert channel it's going to be on rumble but this is also going to be on youtube on the truth faith and action alliance channel so we're coming out with that and we'll be able to watch all of those kevin gets me permanently banned on supernatural junkies channel that i I started under my profile, so I'm criminally banned on YouTube now. On YouTube? Yeah. Oh, my God.

Yes, I can no longer post because we got three strikes. Thanks. So then he starts his own. Don't you love that? He does all he wants. I won't tell her about my three other channels. It's me banned for life. Well, it is what it is. I'm on a watch list. I do feel she helped in the process of getting banned. So she was on all those podcasts. But anyways, long story short, you know, that pastor's breakfast we had with the panel of speakers that we had, we had Kevin and Sam Sorbo, right?

We had Rabbi Jonathan Kahn that gave the keynote address. We had Pastor Rob McCoy. We had Lucas Miles. We had Walt Heyer. We had, of course, Kevin McGarry. And then we had our two famous, really two famous doctors, Dr. Mark McCullough. I mean, Mark McDonald. Donald, Peter McCullough was on there only by Zoom in the conference. And then we also had, of course, one of our favorite doctors now of all time, of course, Dr. James Thorpe. Yeah, it was so good.

I also think he was our record longest podcast we ever did because we just couldn't get off talking. So, you know, those videos are going to come out. And again, believe it or not, the way the world works is we don't actually ever have to do another Save Our Children conference. We could actually share this message with the world. But just be clear, there's going to be some local action that needs to happen to make this really work.

So when we talk about, you know, what we learned at the Save Our Children conferences, you know, all of these speakers provided a very unique perspective about what's happening to our children. And it's really important for us to realize because, you know, whatever happens to our children, he who controls that, right, he who is the one who really raises them, right, training them up is the one who's going to determine which way our society is going to go.

And I will tell you this, and I'm going to be releasing this today. Rabbi Jonathan Kahn's address, I believe, is the best sermon I have heard in years. Right. It is absolutely riveting. And more importantly, he goes back to the very start of how it is we got here. What is our foundation? Because everybody builds a foundation. Everything we have in America is built on a foundation.

And he talks about the powers and principalities that we're actually fighting against and who they are and what they're trying to do and how these powers and principalities match exactly with what's manifesting in our society, in people. Well, you think people are going crazy, folks? I'm telling you, you start to listen to that. And, of course, based on a lot of that comes out of his book, The Return of the Gods. You can see that we're seeing these ancient spirits awakening in America.

And we're starting to see people that are being demonically influenced. And, of course, that's what the Bible said, that they would entertain doctrine of demons. And so Jonathan actually gave some names and places and things like that. But then you get to what is he saying to us? He had me in tears, right? I mean, I was in tears. And you just have, here you are in a crowded room, and you have a moment with God.

Because we worked hard. We worked hard to make this conference happen, to find these speakers.

You know we don't want to just like we said talk we get to talk about stuff this is awesome but we got to do something about it and so our alliance came together and said well what could we agree on what what should we agree on and we decided let's do this let's let's focus on the kids because if we don't care about our kids anymore where's our heart right if we don't we can't that's right here you know and i'm going to bring this up i know dr

doja has a little little different take on it as well. And Dennis has got a scripture, but, you know, when you go back to Hezekiah, you know, God turned back time for him, you know, when he was pronounced, you know, this, this situation where he was going to have an illness and die. And, you know, he, you know, broke the sackcloth and ashes, ashes, ashes, as you were, and, and really, you know, repented and asked for God for, for help. And God literally turned back time.

And that's one of the the most astonishing, you know, miracles in the whole Bible. And then, of course, he became very prosperous and they came from Babylon and to see why he was so prosperous. And what did he do? He showed them all their riches. And of course, what happened is he didn't show them who? The Lord. Now, isn't that what we're doing in America? Yeah. Okay, I don't care who you're voting for. The bottom line is you're promoting them as the solution.

There is only one solution. When those people from Babylon, if he had proclaimed the name of the Lord as the reason why they were successful, they never would have come back and taken everything. But then when they did come back and take everything, he said, your judgment is just. Because why, Dr. Dozier? Because it wasn't going to happen to them. It was going to happen to a future generation, right?

And so this is why you can see in America, we all know this, that the next generation of Americans are going to be less profitable, less well-off, okay, at least materially, than this past generation. We all know that. And so in that sense, somehow we're okay with this,

that our children will have less, you know, if they have any country at all, right? So I know Dr. Dozier's comment on that before, Doc, but that's what I see, this spirit of Hezekiah that says this is a just judgment because it's going to happen to somebody else and not us. Right. I mean, we were glad to go in. We were glad to dance with the options. We were laughing about it. So if you think about it, if you think about it, the beings that existed from

eternity are still with us. They don't die. And I think from the start of the podcast that this verse is something every Christian should be should be learning. We use it often. It's good. So we'll have a pro today. Ephesians 6 10 says, Be strong in the Lord and in the power of his might. Put on the whole armor of God that you may be able to stand against the wiles of.

The Power of God

Amen. Well, that's those entities that we're fighting. And of course, you can see, you know, that's why we did it, folks. We don't want to be the generation that sees our children fall into squalor, really. And I think that's where Jonathan even started his address that one of the reasons God chose Abraham was because he had this ability to pass on his beliefs, right, to his children.

And you can see that's one of the reasons even today that they've been able to maintain at least some kind of identity. You know, they've lost, you know, obviously part of their heritage with missing the Messiah, right? But somehow they maintain some other things. And so you can still see this trait even today, you know. So, Dr. Dojan, you want to say something? I do want to say this. I don't want to go back to Hezekiah because that does say a lot.

What can happen when you get lifted up in pride. When you're lifted up in pride, it does say a lot. But I said I don't want to go back. But I would like to just add something to that, where it says that God, pretty much what it's saying is God left him to test him to see what was in his heart.

And that's when he did what he did. And as I look at that, and I look at God reading Hezekiah to see what's in his heart, and Hezekiah not setting his heart on the humble before God, but showing the people of the things of the nation. It appears that America is at that place. I don't believe there's anything good or great that we accomplished without favor from God. And if you look at America now, especially in its leadership, and the church really needs to hear this.

Black, white, Hispanic, whatever, Messianic, Jewish people, whoever, they need to hear this. You need to pay attention to what we see taking place in this country, the different laws and things that are being set up. Boy. And then ask yourself, are these things something that would come from a person with the heart of God? It's not shutting it down because you put a D or an R in front of your heart. That's right. Let the word of God be in your heart. Amen. Because this is where we are now.

And it's the reason that we have so many things. I do want to bring it up. A kicker speaking at a commencement exercise at a Catholic university. And he speaks, professional kicker. He speaks about womanhood, his wife, and he did some points and principles that he believes in. And I'm not going to sit here right now and say, well, that's just his opinion, because he gave a lot of things that were biblical. And then he made it personal as far as how he was blessed with his wife.

And comments were made like, well, I believe he had money issues or he needs to be dismissed from the NFL. So there has become such a darkened heart mindset in our nation until we're seeing things like that. And it really helps you to understand. I'm going to segue on. it helps you to understand why we see children being treated in such a dastardly way. It really does help you to understand because it's become dark. And for the church, we have to believe it.

I'm not saying accept it because when you accept something, you could just become pessimistic. But we have to believe that things have become dark and we have to believe When we just sit back and do nothing or we support it because we don't like something else, all we're doing is giving it momentum to move forward. The church has to wake up and move forward regardless of costs. Because if we're moving forward, there might be an earthly cost that you don't

like, but there's a heavenly reward that you would love. Amen. And what did that young man say? I didn't see it. That was so awful.

That would deserve his being kicked off his team or being blackballed or you know other than saying he appreciated that his wife took on the role of motherhood really essentially is what he was saying and that because of that from raising his four children it allowed him to do what he does you know they can't tolerate that why is that awful but you know just the thought that somebody protecting motherhood or the stance of that

is an awful thing and that's what little girls are being that's being shoved down our roads right like motherhood is not a worthy cause it is not enough of a reason for you to be a stay-at-home mom like isn't that the most important reason. I mean, they're walking out on Jerry Seinfeld, and I don't know if you watched that one, but the same thing. You're like, okay, why was that controversial? You see how twisted the world's values are.

But again, that's the world's values. Those aren't Christ's values. I think a lot of people that are liberals are certainly seeing things that they think are beyond belief as well. I mean, you can see that there's plenty of people that are raving. You know, I know I saw Stephen A go off, you know, on just how in the world can you give all this money to people that, you know, are illegally here? And you have veterans that are living in the streets. I mean, we have homeless people in here.

It's almost Americans, right? Yeah. We have vets, 22 veterans a day commit suicide. Yeah. Right. why aren't we using any of that money to help them? I don't understand it. It's just funny. You just brought up the fact that the church, the body of Christ needs to be able to stand, prepare to stand against the wiles of the devil. I don't know why I read that verse. Then I looked up that, remember that quote, that there's only thing necessary for evil to exist. That's what good do.

That's right. And it wasn't, you know, it said that it wasn't written by Edmund Burke. But then I write below that, it says, where in the Bible does the Bible say that? And it said, Proverbs 24, verse 11, but if you go up to verse 10, it says, If you faint in the day of adversity, your strength is low. Deliver those who are drawn toward death. And hold back those stumbling to the slaughter. If you say, surely we did not know this, does not he who weaves the heart to the sinner?

That is a strong verse when you think about it, and you put it in this context. If you're doing nothing, you see this, but you're doing nothing. And I think they gave you the book, by Eric and Hattis, about the letter to the American church, where he's comparing the American church to the Jewish church during the Fourth of July, rise, or during Hitler's rise and out, the young church, you know, most of them went along with Hitler.

And we all know that Bonhoeffer didn't, but might be involved, but and gave his life for it. But I think we need to stand strong. You know, we've talked about this before on podcasts, how God put three institutions in place. The first institution he put in place was a family. chart, right? And then he put in government and the church. And those three are separate, but going back to your circles, how they overlap, right?

If we overlap three circles, yeah, we all have similar concerns, but outside the overlapping core are the concerns that pertain to those circles. And government, we've talked about this, how the government overstuffed its boundaries during COVID. And the church did not hold the government responsible and what is the you know Proverbs Proverbs 13.

If they are persecuting evil and rewarding good but when they reward evil the church has to stand up for this go back to that statement you made where the person wanted to refute it and challenge him and say where is that in the bible go back to that statement, you mean back to the quotation quotation. The quotation I gave was Proverbs. You said, and the person I showed was in the Bible. When you don't do good, when you don't do good, people do nothing. And then it said Proverbs.

Now, what, what, what? I guess that's a quote from people. Because I want to bring something out. Oh, the only thing necessary to even be trying to do well is that good men do nothing. Good men do nothing. And I said, what is that about? Okay, here's what happens. People will use that and say, for example, Example, I may say. You may be angry about a certain thing. Let's say you're angry because a certain thing broke. And you say the word says you should not be angry about more.

And the person says, where is that in the Bible? Well, it's in the Bible when the word says, be angry and sin not. Now, you got the quotation. And that can be applied in different situations. There could be a certain thing that happens. And that thing happened, that thing that happens with you could be different than what happened with someone else. But in that situation, God doesn't want you in a rage, regardless of what that situation is.

Now, for what that person just said, this is for them. And hopefully you can say, no, maybe they're not listening today, but they can look at James 4.17. And in James 4.17, it reads, therefore, to them that knoweth to do good and doeth it not, to him it is sin. Amen. So, and when you look at that word good, kilos, it speaks of doing that which is valuable, virtuous. Amen. And if you don't do that, then you are wandering from the act of righteousness.

You are outside of the will of God. So that is their answer. It is in the Bible. What you have to look at is the application for the situation. Don't look for it. There will be, if you had a direct quote for everything that we do in this world, I don't know how many books you would need. Mine would be comprised of it, but they would not fit in your house.

No, no. It's true. Well, and think about for us, when we were trying to put together this conference, we were like, okay, everybody, I mean, there's a lot of confusion and there's certainly very few things that people seem to really be able to agree on. But again, it's not about us. It's about what does Jesus say? And so we found that Jesus did say something that he's already made a call. He said, if something harms these little ones, it would be better that a millstone

be hung around their neck and they're thrown in the sea. Now, Jesus is making a call here. And that means we can make a call. And that means if we're not making a call, we're not following Jesus. Now, we may be unaware of something and how dangerous it is. And that's why we'll maybe go to Walt here, because he really showed us some powerful things about how dangerous some of these little things they're doing really are. Right. But what we're saying here is there also comes a threat.

No, it really is a warning. Right. That this is what I'm going to do to you. This is what's going to happen to you. It's nothing. We talked about the millstone last week, how big this is. So this is the same thing that we have this call that God is calling us to make. And then there's clearly an action. So there's truth about what's right. There's making this call. And then there's using wisdom. But on something like this, Jesus is moving to DEFCON 5. He is going, I'm taking you out.

Jesus’ Call to Protect Children

That's right. That's right. And you're going to be fish. Right? The concrete shoes. Yeah. One thing about what Dr. D just wrote, the verse from James, and I'm not a pastor, but when I look at James, I look at theologically that is the aim of the book and saying that faith is without works. If you profess, there's a difference if you're professing the Lord and then you're walking with him. And you will be judged for Jesus even said, see you know by the truth, but it's true.

It's not true. fruit and it doesn't mean apple and oranges you know we described elsewhere in the testament what the fruit of the spirit is you know so and the bible even talks about his response to to the to the ones that don't bear any fruit right and and and then there's this whole situation where where you know people are running up to jesus and saying all these wonderful things that they did But he says, I don't know who you want.

So it is. And you can see why. So what I'm saying is that we're trying to help you, you know, to to it's OK to examine your faith. The Bible teaches to do it right. And so when we do that and of course, the best thing, though, is to hang around people like the supernatural junkies here. We're cool. These guys are, but I'm telling, I'm also telling you that all of these guys are people that help me to walk a little bit better. You see what I'm saying?

And so it's important that, that this stuff happens. Inside of relationships, inside of true fellowship, you see? And that's why you need a church. Somebody said to me the other day, they go, oh, I went to church. And of course, I knew what church they went to. And I said, so did you talk to anybody? And they go, oh, yeah, I said so-and-so on the way out. And you just said, oh, right. So did you get any fellowship when you went to church?

And what do you think their answer was? No. So then you didn't really go to church, did you?

Church do you see what i'm saying here and so we and and we're and the williams times come in with the bible say we're going to be entertaining doctrines of these we're going to see this falling away so remember folks just because you say you went to church doesn't mean you really want the church and just because the church says it's a church doesn't really mean it's the church, how are you going to know dr dozier how are you going to know it's the truth

well where's the truth it's in your bible and i love that are you receiving truth and and as you were saying for forsake not the assembly of yourself together. And so when you come together in church, the assembly of the Lord, when you come together, there's something that we're doing. Yes, we're coming and we worship and we come and receive the word, but there's something that we also come for that a lot of people don't realize.

They might say, I came and afterward, I just wanted to go home and work the week. But it said that we are to exhort and encourage one another in love as we see the approaching. How can you encourage someone if you never come and chat with them, talk with them. How can you be encouraged by someone? That's right. If you're going to do that, being around them, that is fellowship. You're being a partaker in a conversation, partaking in encouragement that's going about.

So you miss something that's very important when you don't do that. You're not going to fellowship.

Importance of Fellowship in Church

If you, first and foremost, you're going to an edifice where you are really the church. There's the building, Coriacon, the house of the Lord, And then there's the ecclesia, which is the people. And when you come, when you come in there. Okay, throw a little Greek out for you. I thought, was that like Comic-Con or Kazakon? Okay, you think Kurios, boy, and Oikos house, like you think Koragant. And you come together, see, now you got me really. We're not in the bread of our Jews.

And all of that, but you're coming together in the house of the Lord. And so if you're coming in there and you're just sitting and you're just saying, I came and I did my good deed, you're trying to get some points and it doesn't work that way with God.

It doesn't work that way with God we want to be a community as you were saying, it's like what Keith Green Keith Green from the 70s oh sure yeah he said going to church doesn't make you any more of a Christian going to McDonald's meets you a hamburger, wow well you know I mean the point is it's the same point I think he's wrong there definitely more likely to be. Christian in church than a hamburger. Ronald McDonald, yeah. It's a Greek word.

Well, and to be fair, you know, a lot of churches that, you know, you could end up saying, well, I didn't really talk to anybody. A lot of those churches have life groups. So, you know, the whole process still is happening. It should be. Look at that. But the point is, is that it's so important, the fellowship part.

Impact of Childhood Trauma

Part if christianity isn't in context right and it's the context is life and relationships but going back to what is it that that we're talking about we're talking about what would injure children and so i know alex and i were so hot about this part but when you think about what did walt hire say happened to him when he was a kid well one of the things was is that his mother, his grandmother his grandma her mother made him a dress exactly called Jasper

yeah and he was about four years old and uh, I don't know if he had expressed any interest he doesn't really say that but she said when he was over there he could wear it and so you know as a four year old he's like yeah this is something new something that I mean.

It's just done with innocence right because me and my one son he loved to twirl around when he had a towel on he's like this is like a skirt because he could feel the air on his you know stuff and he's this is amazing, because that's what little kids you know yeah right here it wasn't anything bigger than that but because of that they also had he had an uncle who was adopted who had a problematic past and ended up having some

sexual attraction to him as a four-year-old in a dress and ended up raping him right and then this sort of led down a very dark path from there Was it what you said? Sorry. But it's also clear from that story that it was her. Right, that was my drop moment. It's also clear that this was her agenda. Her agenda being executed on him, this was happening a lot. And it caused confusion, right? And so it caused a break in how he identified, right?

And so it's really important that he caused confusion almost through his whole life.

Walt Heyer’s Medical Transition

And then he gets to the medical side. Now, here's a guy who is very successful. He's on the A-team. He's literally planning vehicles at Honda, what they look like. On space missions, right? Space missions. He was an engineer. Yeah. Yeah. And he's got a family and he's got children. But when his medical doctor tells him, you know, you're in the wrong body and this is what's going to fix all of this depression and anxiety is to is a solution to all of this is that you were born in the

wrong body and we just need to change it. This is a medical situation. And he was in my flesh right there. I want to go back. Well, me too. Right. You can see that guy is a complete idiot. I mean, how in the world would you who would think that?

Assaults on Children’s Innocence

Somebody who has children you know why wouldn't you deal with like he says why wouldn't i deal with these deeper issues but what i'm trying to say is is that you look at these assaults against our children jonathan khan shared how now just this last year every kindergartner is going to be asked what's your pronoun now do you realize that that is an inappropriate question first of all we were yes that's what they that's that's that's what he's saying

well they can't they can't You can do that in Florida because you're not allowed to talk to your children about anything that way. Straight or gay sex under the age of eight. All they're asking him is, what is your pronoun? And what is every kiddo kid going to say? What do you mean? Super. What is my pronoun? Totally. Right. And so here we have. Or he was a cat for years.

You know, and I went out to breakfast with a friend of ours, Pastor Richard Mulls, and he was sharing how he had, you know, he does counseling and all this kind of stuff. And he, you know, talked about how, you know, just one kid in class that was just called Gawain. Okay. Gawain? Yeah. And that he's in elementary school and his teacher called him that. And then everybody. No, that was, that's the nickname that the teacher gave him. I'm going to explain that to the teacher.

Well, and then, and that kid had a break. He always thought that everybody, and then they all laughed. And then. And you just think to yourself, what are we doing to our children? You know, when they say, you know, the don't say gay bill, how about it is you don't ask my children anything like that. You don't ever call them a name at all. Don't ask them what their pronoun is, right? They don't even know what pronouns are.

Well, it's like Sam Sargo was saying that, yeah, Sam Sargo's daughter was called up to the board to do a math problem and she couldn't do it.

And the teacher made her feel stupid. and so from that point out from the time she was like it was elementary school from that time on and now she's like what what's the 16 she finally figured out like the reason she always felt inadequate and not smart enough was because of that occasion and all the kids laughed and they all you know i'm weak front of her about it and because of that she held that and thought like i'm really

not that smart and like how awful like those things really do scar you right i think.

That's where sam she spoke right she her message was very true is that what's happening now in school it's it's horrific and it's at the point where you can't you're trusting these people with your children they're your responsibility god gave them to you that's right and that where does it say in the bible you have to send your kids to school right and done it we're supposed supposed to educate them right you know if you go back and go back in this country before public schools which

obviously the woman who lives on communism before public schools there are school houses that were local little that's right their children well in public schools not really in the bible is it dr jody no exactly they were teacher children and your children's children that's It's mainly what you had. And there was a time when the church really had the schools. They would go to school in the churches. And a government was allowed to take these school systems.

And in truth, it really shouldn't be in the hands of government. I say today, there are people, and you know people don't really pay. Some people, some people, let me just go ahead and qualify that. Some people are not paying attention to their children's education. And even when they're going to school. People become excited because their children are going to a certain college. And then the child comes home after maybe a year or so, and you don't know who they are.

Because now they become places of indoctrination. I would like to go back to, I would like to go back to, okay, and I'm going to be just a little bit here, to the Bolshevik revolution and then how you were trying to spread communism. And so you start a Frankfurt School in Germany, and you're constantly trying to bring it across the globe. And then eventually in the 1930s, you get it to the United States, into Columbia and Columbia University.

And there you go. Okay. Because you knew that America had a great disdain for communism. I mean, Europe has flirted with the Indians, flirted with the different places, flirted with them. And then finally, you got to hear these scoots, and you got these professors from these different nations. And it wasn't so much the professors who wanted to be free from that tyranny, but it was those who, some of them, wanted to propagate it.

And we're starting to see that today. And I oftentimes warn parents about this today. You know, when you're sending your kids away, you need to be aware because there's a prideful thing. And I want to say this about some pastors. And being a pastor, I believe I'm qualified to say this. So you can say, how can you say this? I can say it because I'm one. What I have heard pastors say.

And I don't want to use any terrible words, say things across the world that speak of people going to Bible colleges and they refer to them as cemeteries, alternate cemetery, or saying that they go off to Bible college and then they come back worse than they were. I hear that sometimes, but... On the same token, I'll hear them boast about their child going to a secular university and getting a secular degree.

I hear pastors saying things like, theology will get you nowhere when you don't know what theology is. Theos, God, and Logos, and it has to do with the study of things of God that he has revealed to us. And so we have this form of ignorance, and I might as well say appraised ignorance. You know, you're lauding the things of the world. You're criticizing the things of God. Yes, there are schools that are pseudo.

There are theological schools that are pseudo, but there are real spirit-filled Bible colleges out there. And I do believe that you need some form, you need some form of theological learning, not just for ministry, but also for living. I believe that. Well, and you can sell. I mean, Charlie Kirk, didn't he write a book about how going to college is a complete waste of time? You know, see any videos? He has, like, I'm involved in more education.

Well, he loves to do that, for sure. And there's no doubt about it. Go ahead, Doc. It's a free education for all children and public schools. Well, abolition of children's factory labor and its present form, combination of education with industrial production, that's what Sam is talking about. They're training you to be a little slave.

Grooming in Schools

Well and you you can see you know that that's kind of how it's happening i mean to me it's just like once you start to understand why asking them what their pronouns is is so important you get to enter it's insidious right it's part of grooming and that's that's part of what we need to be able to understand is that they're clearly grooming our children right but we do have to mention just Because it recently just happened, right? The United Methodist Church.

Oh, that's pretty supernatural. Well, they totally, you know, accepted... The liberal wing. No. Yeah. Yeah. And they're a woman pastor. Right. And they've completely done away with any language that is non-inclusive. And now they have, is it pastors? I don't know. Who have more openly out now because there's no issues with homosexuality or transgender or anything like that. And that's, that's recent.

Because that's one of those things too. It is a church. However, one of the things you're saying with that, I was, I was looking at a few videos on that and both of these two different, I guess, different ministries, but they were all in a portion of that. I mean, this was either Lutheran or United Methodist, but one woman was what she called herself teaching about Jesus in the Seraphim issue. And she pretty much says that Jesus called the woman on the beaten word.

Okay. okay, when he said mom and dog, she said people try to say it with speaking adorable senses, speaking of like puppies, which it was if you look in the Greek. And then she goes on to say, Jesus really wasn't looking to help this woman, but this woman just like, she kind of like forced herself on him. And she says, that woman could have slapped Jesus and we would have forgiven her. I'm like, okay, here you go.

And then another woman, she's preaching about Paul and she refers to Paul as a jerk because of what he's saying. Now, these are people, then I'll go to this other pastor, this male pastor, as Alex was saying, any type of language. And this pastor, and it seems very intentional, he keeps ending his sentences like, today I went through this S, and another day this S, saying the literal four letter. And you don't really see anybody getting up walking out. It looks like it's intentional.

And so what you're seeing here is we've got to, we've got to, to, We've got to start labeling what the Bible tells us to label. Yeah. These are not, they're churches, but they're not churches of the true and living law. Certainly. These are, some of them aren't even apostate churches. I mean, they are just, they're demonic. Okay. These are people who are, as it says, many shall follow their pernicious ways. They're bringing about destruction in the lives of people.

They're speaking evil of dignitaries. They don't have a problem. I'm speaking of these spiritual leaders like Paul and even the things you're saying about Jesus, okay? And so these people are just wicked.

And we're seeing, there are so many different, I mean, I understand today we're hitting on a few things and the main thing we really want to focus on was what higher, but all of these things that we're talking about right now, if you listen to these people when they talk, somehow they circle right around to the kids of course right they circle right around to the children it's their target right it's their target we talked about that you know that the proverbs 22 6 go both ways yeah

if you can go meet them in the path of righteousness so lead them in the path of destruction which way you want to get well and speaking of indoctrination let's just face it the bottom line is it's such a you said that here they are saying well they went off to you know cemetery well these kids have been raised in christian homes and they're They're coming back, and they're completely not interested in Christianity again.

That's the thing that's not for me. That's right. And here we have now this, I forget what era, Sheik has put billions and billions of dollars into universities. I think one of the three of a point about that, and I want to also go back to the schools for a second, but the point about the children going to college and then being converted to atheism. Some of that responsibility comes back to the parents.

Sure. In church, because how many churches do you know, especially if you're in 20, that are these, you know, children's churches? When you take the kids out of church, I don't know, when I grew up, unfortunately I grew up in a Catholic church. I mean, you didn't leave, you sat there, and you got smacked if you missed the games at church, right? Guns or fishes. Yeah, but you didn't leave church. That's what I'm saying. I'm really sure. And then, and I think there should be childhood education.

I've come across against that. There should be definitely catechismal teaching to the children. They should know the catechism, you know, the doctrines of the church and so forth. However, when they get into, remember what happens when they get into the teenage year, and then they have the youth group stuff, right? And they get in there, and you think that youth pastor makes a huge difference on those kids. Is he teaching them the gospel?

Is he teaching them how to defend, to be objective in their faith? Because what happens is they go to college and they hear these professors, the experts, come again to New Year's and they start teaching these documents like they're true. Brian, it cannot defend them. You know, and that's a trouble. And one last thing, I don't want to interject, but when you're talking about children. Don't you mean a segue? Someone give me a segue. Going back to the schools and public schools.

My daughter and my son were both school teachers in New York. And they are just writing about right there, what they're teaching and so forth. My daughter is an English second language teacher. And so she's getting all this kids. And she's in a. Obviously, a more middle-class, lower-class neighborhood area where a lot of the lighters, so-called, come in and they're just, you know, they're flooded. They're flooded. They're flooded with these children who don't speak a lot of

English. Their parents don't speak a lot of English. And she said, on top of that, the English-speaking parents don't care about their kids. Very few parents care about them. It's become a babysitting thing for them. Well, you know, this goes back really even to, you know, even at the Mount Sinai, you know, Moses, you go talk to God, not us, talk to God lest we die.

And this is the parents, you teach our children. So we're always passing the buck here, you know, but when you think about, you know, why is this so important? Well, look at what happened with Walt when he was in school, right? Then he faces this true identity crisis, right? And this is when all of this stuff produces this unsatisfactory light. And so there's three or four things he said, I thought, that were just profound.

Because anytime we deal with these issues, remember, we have people that are the victims of this deception. And then we have the people that are perpetrating. And the ones that are perpetrating are the ones that have a millstone coming from their neck. But just like in this situation He said ask them. What was going on in your life when you stopped liking yourself? When did you want to be somebody else? When did you want to be your mom? When did you want to be your dad?

These are the kinds of things. What was going on in your life? And you can see how high school is so difficult. Why? Because we want to belong. And that's why they'll do anything to belong. Why? If this is the way I have to act and talk, you tell me.

Who didn't wear the right jeans if they could who didn't wear the right shirt for me it was the eyes out shirt then i realized that i didn't like those people so then i wore the little tiger shirts the tigra remember those really really cool people wore those. You see what i'm saying and so you know we all were trying to fit in we're all trying to find a place in this world of purpose. And this is just what every kid goes.

And now they've magnified it tenfold because I have to know my pronoun and I don't know what my pronoun is. Right. How many kids are already in 40% of Gen Z and 30% of young professing Christians now identify as LGBTQ. Now that means we have lost an entire generation. And, and that's why, I mean, let's face it, folks. What else could they do after COVID? Oh, they could convince 40% of our kids that they were born in the wrong bodies.

You see what I'm saying? One thing I feel like Dr. Mark was talking about, he was saying, you know, this is the end of humanity. It's the cause of this illusion. Say, these kids are not going to reproduce. They're not going to reproduce. Produce, it's the end of the family. Humanity is the family. If you destroy the family, you destroy what humanity has always been. That's right. They're doing medical experimentation on these young people, and they're getting younger and younger.

And Walt, who certainly did an interview, someone named Brianna Ivey, I'd love to get on the show. She no longer is a genitals. She's 22 years old. no they started pushing her transition when she was 13 and. And started her on meds. They even asked her if she, you know, she's actually a trans woman, right? She's a boy. I don't know how to refer to all this if I really don't. It gets confusing. I'm sorry. I don't know.

But she said they asked, did she want to start her sperm when she was 14? And she said, I'm 14. Like, I'm going through all this stuff. And all they're telling me is I have to save up for all the surgeries I need to have.

She's like, and then they're like, pay every year. anything after this she's like it was just another expense on top and they made it sound like it was you know just another thing you're gonna have to pay for and she's like and i'm 14 and i don't want children at 14 but you know she's he's 22 now and i was like i would like children but i don't have that possibility because one i don't have any genitals two they took away you

know his ability to produce so well it's like i said when we were talking about the confidence and And once again, it was the fact that they weren't happy enough killing a little one, but now they don't destroy the matter. Yeah. I mean, any child under the age of consent, I don't know, in most places that's around 12, 13, whatever, they don't know anything. No. No idea. And then you are manipulating them and putting them on drugs,

and parents are here allowing that to happen to your children. You know what I mean? They asked you know because everyone's question is how did your parents allow that to happen he's like well anytime we went to see a psychologist they would pull out statistics saying that trans women if they don't start transition early are more likely to be killed or die by suicide than any other group out there well but they don't know that you know that's right actually the three what was it but mark

mark wanted that because he brought that up that was the three to four times The Danish study. Yeah. But think about that. Now your doctor is telling you, if you don't do this, your child's going to commit suicide. Or die by some violent act. Now, think about that. They have to do the surgeries. I know, but they, now, this is where they've been deceived. They think, well, I'm going to let them transition. I don't want them to kill themselves.

Right. And that's the line they're all using. And we have to remember, like, they're in a vulnerable position, too, because all they know is their child is hurting for some reason and they don't really fully know why and they just want to help their child like it doesn't make it right but i totally understand why parent would go along with it i hope that they would question more now but i could see a parent being swayed by that especially if that's the information

ever think about it and tell you if a if a grown man with kids is you know again you know not exactly middle-aged yet is transitioning after a marriage and kids, because he still feels horrible about who he is inside, because his medical doctor told him that, then you have to remember, there's a lot of people that are absolutely teetering on the edge. They are absolutely desperate.

And any word from their doctor as a sign of hope that this is a direction that's going to fix this, you can see why they're jumping at the chance.

And if you guys want to check out any of the resources, especially to hear the stories that people who have gone through this, check out Walt's and Pastor Lucas Miles' website, sendchangeregret.com, you'll find a lot of information on there that will help you, or help you bridge those conversations, but maybe send this to somebody whose child is going through this to help them make those really difficult conversations happen.

Just to comment on what Alex just brought out that doctors are saying to these children, that is nothing more than fear mom. Yes. Which is deliberately arousing fear or alarming people about a particular issue. and I want to say this, what they're doing is not of God. It's a lie and it's demonic and I want to give you something out of the word of God because for everything that the word of God and Peter tells us in the first chapter of 2 Peter that God has given us all things to attend to life

and God in his soul. Amen. When you look in 1 John, 1 John 4, 18 tells us that there is no fear in love. There is no fear in love. The Greek word for fear is used, here's the word phobos and this is where read our English word phobia. And that's saying there is no alarm of fright in love, but perfect love, complete love, loving God, it will cast out all fear. Now, here's what happens with this.

When they do this, what's happening with these children, when they say, well, they may be, and even the parents, they say that they may be suicidal, they may do this, they may do that. It tells us that fear has turned. And so when you give into fear, the punishment for fear is anxiety and all of these particular things. And this is what they're using. You bring about fear into these people.

And then when these people begin to fear, they're told, well, here's a way that you alleviate this problem. They're not saying to you, okay, did this cause you to be alarmed, fear, which that is really the intent to bring about fear. So here is the solution for the fear, but that's not the solution. The solution for the fear is perfect love. And that means that you are completely loving God and you recognize that God loves you. God loves you unwavering. God loves you unconditioned.

And whatever God had intended for you, he laid out his plans and purpose. And when somebody is trying to bring something differently for what God has given, then you have to realize this is not for your good. They're not looking out for your best interest. Your child is a male or your child is a female. And someone's telling you that your child is going to commit suicide or do this or do that and the other.

You don't yield to that. If you do yield to it, the consequence is this unhappy life that they say the child would have, that this child would have if you refuse to yield to what they're saying. It is really the total opposite. Well, Alex, you were saying something about IEPs. Yeah, I just wanted to let the parents know as we sort of wrap up this episode a bit that we're talking

about how a lot of parents aren't really interested. There's something called an IEP, and it's an Individualized Education Plan. And when they're putting these together, it's also a 504, right? As a parent, you can be completely involved in that situation. You can set up the goals for the child's future. You can do all the things, right? You can decide what goals you'd like the child to accomplish that year, and the school has to abide by that.

A lot of parents skip that meeting because they're like, oh, let's just let the educators do it. And if you're confused and you're not sure, there are resources in your state that will provide an IEP or 504 advocate for free. And all you have to do is search for it. And once there's, you know, I know some people say they charge for it, but they don't, that you should be able to find one for free. People that are parents that have gone through it before who are just helping other parents.

Do I know that that's a long process? It takes forever. Yes, I do. We know personally, right? One of our boys had to have that. And because he's autistic, right? And so we went in and look, Look, I had a whole binder, right? And we would set up the goals every year. And I know that meeting takes all day. You're literally there for how long? I mean, it was hours, but it can be five or six hours. You're there with the teachers talking through the goals, but that's your child.

There's nothing more important in this world than your child. And so you owe it to your children to be present in that moment. And you can find resources online that will help you set up those goals.

Importance of Parental Involvement in Education

It doesn't have to be an impossible task. Also, you can talk to the advocate and they'll help you. So, yeah, just wanted to let you know. Dr. D, thank you for covering that about fear. Because that's exactly how they operate during COVID. But to back me up a little bit, it is from action, not solution. What did Paulette Duncan say? Truth, faith, and action, Elias? No, from action, not solution. I got it. Some type of dialect? What is that? The Hegelian dialectic.

They just use it for this? That's right. It's Horto Ab Keo. But just think about what we've said this morning. We have said that anything that harms these children, We can make a call, and we saw people that are being asked pronouns, little children are being asked pronouns. They're not capable of answering that question for probably 20 years. Okay? These names that kids get called, this bullying that's happening in our society, in our – My son absolutely was affected by that.

He was sabotaging himself at school just to do that. And we took him out of school, and he goes from being behind to ahead. So these are things that can really happen, and it's happening in our school. Sam Sorbo went, like I said, on her daughter, thought she was stupid this whole time. You know, one name that was called, you know, to this gay warder, it wasn't even, I didn't think it was that bad. But somehow that was what stuck and he got labeled.

And so this is where the good news we have. You were made in your father's image. We bear the image of God. We have this inside of us. Not what's on television, not what's in books, movies, magazines. You were created special by God. That's the good news. That's what these children need to hear. But you explain one thing to me. How can I believe I was put in the wrong body and still there's a good God out there?

You can't. See, this is about destroying the goodness of God to a generation of children. And they're doing it through deception You'll never be happy you were born in the wrong body. We have to transition you. And then, again, they don't know how deep this really rabbit goes. They're threatening parents saying, your kid is going to commit suicide if you don't let them transition. Now we have a 22-year-old that has absolutely no genitalia. You don't think that makes them suicidal?

So you see here, the devil was what? A liar. The father of us. But don't forget, he's come to kill, to steal, and destroy. He has all of those things. And so this is how he works. Deception. Okay. When he gets in there and involves, but we can make a call. Jesus has made a call. And Jesus is also saying, I will stand up to that person. I will stop them from doing these things. And the beautiful thing is we live in a free country. We live in a country where we can influence what's happening.

We can absolutely make laws that we don't have to be the person that puts the millstone around their neck. We can make them law that helps to make those people that do such things would dare to do such things as to be punished. And yet we have, again, California, where, again, misdemeanor to traffic children, right?

Standing Up Against Injustice

So these are the things that are outrageous that are going on in our society today, and we as Christians can stand up to these things. Dr. D., you want to pray this out for our audience, please? Father, we bless you. We thank you. We honor you. And I just pray, Lord, that today's podcast, which we brought forth, is informative, informative. And enlighten you to the mistakes. I pray, Lord God, that you're well pleased with what we have learned today.

We just ask, Lord Jesus, for your hand, your power, your power, Lord God, and station upon those who are seeking your face. We pray, Lord God, that you will give parents some wisdom and boldness, and if they decide to have more of an interest in children's life, Lord God, let it not just be mental, but also active in that area as well.

And Lord, those of us who, we may have have we may have children who are already adults and already grown lord god i just pray that we still recognize lord god that they're our neighbors those who are raising children they are neighbors and we have to love them as ourselves so as i send this prayer to you today lord i pray that it's heard by you i believe that it's heard by you and i just pray that you would comfort all of those lord god who in need of comforting

right now those who have been deceived and gone forth Lord, with some of these things, Lord, I pray, Lord, in the name of Jesus, that you would grant healing to them in the name of Jesus. So, in the name of Jesus, amen. Amen.

Closing Prayer for Guidance and Comfort

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