The Trap of State Sponsored Indoctrination With Rev. Kevin McGary

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Humble and Dennis did did you get a tan since you were on earlier today no I just changed the light. So we have my Irish tan and we have Kevin McGarry on with us today and so say welcome to Kevin how are you today brother I'm good I'm honored to be here amongst such you know wealth of knowledge and you know being surrounded by all doctors hopefully that bodes well and that means that Maybe I can join your ranks at some point, hopefully sometime soon.

Well, you were just telling us about your dissertation that you got coming up. So I always love to go back and start at the beginning. But just to introduce Kevin a little bit, Kevin is the founder of Every Black Lives Matter. He is the author of a book called Woke Up, and of course, is from a Christian perspective.

And then we also have a number of other books. kevin you were telling me one other one but he just sent me his latest book and his latest book is called free to be servant and slave finally breaking free of all bondage as a new creation in christ so we'll get the chance to talk about all those other ones what was the other one you mentioned kevin.

DEI and 3D. So many people in the body of price, so many people who are business owners are trying to wrap their mind around what is DEI, diversity, equity, and inclusion, and what does that mean? How do I as a Christian respond to that? So DEI and 3D is a book that's designed to help us to really understand what diversity, equity, and inclusion is sincerely.

It's an apolitical, non-ideological look it just takes you through history and helps you to understand why we are at the times where we are right now at the end of it you come to the obvious conclusion that it's a nefarious and insidious type of a scheme and not something that's truly altruistic but going into it would help you to understand all of the particulars and then you arrive at whatever whenever it concludes you arrive.

Well, of course, that's going to be very consistent with, you know, what we've been seeing. And of course we kind of started right there in 2020 when it was all out in the open and it was very obvious that something was going on in the world that all the rules for how we handle pandemics and, and suddenly natural immunity is, you know, something that's disgusting, you know, as if that's not the reason we're in existence.

Resistance and so we all have that you know paranoia we went through and of course a lot of us you know being doctors here chiropractors we we had a little up on that because we we had a little understanding about these vaccines and how that works so but the average person i mean we we got taken for a ride here and so in a lot of ways you can see we're still coming out of that and And, of course, now we're in a situation where, you know, 40% of Gen Z, right, is now considered LGBTQ.

And so not only they pull COVID off. But, yeah, they've got 40% of our kids now convinced that they're born in the wrong body. So we're seeing, you know, this tremendous, you know, upheaval in all of the normal traditions. And, of course, in our faith and the prophetic times, we think that, you know, this is all what we were told, that there would be this great falling away. And I can see, Kevin, that you are all about getting back what we seem to be losing around the country.

But my question for you probably to start would be, you know, when did you first come to that part in your relationship with God where, you know, now you're working with ministry, you're working in writing Christian books. When was that first part where you really asked yourself, am I called to this ministry?

No, that's a great question. So let's talk a little bit about my history. So I was born in the 60s in the Hunter's Point projects in San Francisco. ago. So if you know anything about Hunter's Point in the 1960s, that was where the Black Panther Party started. So I was born in that kind of community, abject poverty, lower income bracket, obviously. And then my parents moved to a lower middle-class community not far from there. And I pretty much grew up in that scenario, public school system.

I was a hoodlum and basically did all those things that, you know, the street, you know, crazy hoodlums do during that time. I was always oversized. So I was a big boy and had a tendency to want to bully others. And it's just, you know, stupid stuff. So it was just street stuff that I did, but I used to endure, you know, just look for fights. Right. So, and I never lost one. And so I've had this sort of arrogant, you know, sort of way of trying to bully people and all that.

In essence, because my father, who was a runaway alcoholic all my formative years, but because he came home every night, I got good grades because he was a big man, too. And my mother used to say, look, you don't bring home those grades. I'm going to stick your drunk daddy on you. And so I brought home good grades. And then after I graduated high school, I went to college because I didn't know what else to do.

I got good grades in public school, went to college, went to San Jose State, got a sociology degree.

Degree and and but my during this entire time i was raised in the church and my mother was a she she is a mighty woman of god and she's you know always interceding and praying and all that and so when i graduated college a social studies degree i met the love of my life 37 years ago and and and we decided to take god at his word we decided to take our christianity seriously we think that our form you know while we were growing up and all that that was all fine but in in reality,

we were carnal christians at best and so it was that whole even though it seemed sort of disjointed that whole background actually you know set the premise and the predicate if you will, for my current life which is after we decided to take god at his word take him seriously be be discipled and actually, you know, do that, take that earnestly. One of the things that the Lord helped us to understand is that he would not release us to disciple others until we were discipling our own family.

So we took our commitment to discipleship seriously. Our two children, we discipled them even to this day. When they went through college, we didn't just release them. Okay, we've grown you up and you can go. We kept the commitment to disciple. And my son, I talked to him three or five times a week while he was at Loyola Marymount. Our daughter, we talked three to five times a day because she was at Columbia University in New York.

Crazy marxist you know education and so we had to constantly you know deprogram her and all that so fortunately for us our kids are you know committed christians conservative not based on ideology but just because this is biblical right so i say all i have to say this that after we started to take god seriously and start to do conform you know basically conform our household into the way that he designed, he put a calling on my life to actually start to write.

Now, I didn't know what that really meant, but this is how it happened. When my son was growing up, I got him involved in martial arts and I decided to take it with him because I used to just love to scrap, as I've mentioned in my background. And so one Saturday we had an open sparring thing and I was taking it to the young boys.

I tore an ACL and the Lord, I really heard it like audibly. I know this is a supernatural, you know, podcast. So you guys understand, but I heard audibly, but inside on that Sunday morning when my wife and children were going to, to church and I had a big old, you know, a standage around my knee because I tore my ACL. I heard the Lord say, now that I have your attention, I'm thinking, I need you to write. I'm thinking, right.

God, Because, you know, you have to understand, I had no anticipation, desire whatsoever. Who would want to think that I want to be a writer, write a book? Are you kidding me? Anyway, I opened up my laptop coyly, just open it. All right, whatever. And supernaturally, I'm writing a book on the kingdom. So heavy theological, huge, huge impact type stuff. And it was all stuff I didn't study, had no anticipation about. It was straight revelation, right?

So that book was done in about eight weeks. Start to finish, footnotes, everything.

Thing it was just download and so that was really supernatural for me and to this day all the books i've written right now seven they all come back so the supernatural thing is is real i'm a living example of that i'm a straight boy from the hood you know and if you read my books it doesn't have that that character or flavor to it it's you know kind of deep in a sense but the other thing is is the lord says look now i'm going to take that zeal that's in you that you want to fight you

want to scrap all the time never walk away from the fight i'm going to put you on the tip of the spirit culture because you are not a cow you're not you know come what may come on send me and, that's kind of my attitude it's always been you know and so so he did when when blm was tearing up communities doing a lot of crazy stuff in 2020 after george floyd's yeah i really are a co-founder a co-founder, myself and myself,

we decided, look, we need a righteous and faithful alternative to Black Lives Matter. We're going to call it Every Black Life Matters. Every Black Life Matters. And fundamentally, we started that because BLM was not about black life at all. I mean, they said that all we are we here for is police brutality. And we saw that NAACP was failing horribly to protect and stand for and help advance black life. And we saw BLM was not about black life at all.

You go to their website, you know, some of your people may say, well, how could you say OK, if you if you would have went to their website in 2020, you would have saw that they are anti-family, anti-father, anti-God, anti-life in the womb, anti-capitalism. In other words, they're fully revolutionary Marxists by their own by their own admission.

These are all things that antagonize black life these are things that make black life so much more difficult and so we said no no no we want to be an organization that stands for black life in other words we're not going to stand by with eugenicists racist eugenicists as they specifically target the black community for black genocide we're not going to stand by for that we're going going to stand up for black pre-born life in the womb so you

know this this this scenario where we have black lives being born at this rate while every other ethnicity in america is being born at this rate this should be appalling to everybody we're not saying every black life matters as a symbol of superiority we're saying every black life matters to t-o-o so can we at least be born parent at the same rate that everybody else is.

Can you stop targeting black life in urban communities by having 90% of your planned parenthoods within walking distances of black and brown communities? That's clear that this is racist eugenics, eugenicists, and it's a depopulation plot against a particular community. This is the definition of racism. and yet we have the NAACP and BLM all in on it so we're saying no this is unacceptable. So big question here. I know I've been going for a while here, so sorry.

That's all right. But it's really interesting that you're pointing out these facts that, you know, here you are. Everybody is is on board with this Black Lives Matter. And you're you're just a precursory look. And all of a sudden you see this isn't helping blacks. This is hurting. Right. It's hurting our children. It's our families. And it's interesting because I had an interview I got to see, and one of the guys was a Black Lives Matter.

And I can't really remember the host either, but they were both, they both did well at what they were trying to do.

But here's what happened at the end. The one guy, you know, goes off and he talks about how this is what they want to see for solutions with Black Lives Matter, matter right and of course he wasn't way out there or anything it wasn't crazy but at the end of that show the the guy who was hosting just turned to him and said let me give you another solution he said what if every black dad went back home and raised his child okay and you should have seen the

guy's face it was a long pause and he goes well that would work too and that's what you're saying right we exactly what we're saying what we're saying is you know the when we had lbj specifically target the black community to separate and divide our families by incentivizing mothers to kick the men to kick the men out of the house and therefore you get a little bit more welfare this is the fact then that's when the the black family really began to disintegrate rapidly.

I mean, it's, we went from 80 to 90% fathers in the home to now today, 70, 75% of their single family mother only, you know, household. So, so, you know, we're, we're saying is look, fathers can have the huge impact.

If fathers had been in the home, we wouldn't be seeing the, you know, crazy sexualization and, and, you know, brainwashing of our children towards trans and lbgt and all this stuff going on in the schools because the fathers would be able to sort of level set their children when the children come home with the these these notions right so fathers are important this is ordained by god fathers are the pillar of a household,

and what we're saying is look if we're sincere about black life then fathers need to be a part of now we understand we have a hookup culture and all that i get it and so we have fathers with babies all over the place. I get that. But what we encourage is that fathers remain connected to your children. Irrespective of, you know, the crazy with baby mamas and all that. We understand things that happen. But fathers need to remain connected to your children.

You need to remain connected. If you love them, if you care at all about them. You will remain connected to your children. And we're encouraging all fathers, reconnect. We know situations happen. It was crazy or whatever. But if you care at all about your progeny, you must reconnect with your children.

Ask for forgiveness do whatever you got to do but out of the love for your child please reconnect this is what we do with our fatherless program the other thing that we do is school choice every black life matters too so why can't black life be represented in some of these better schools why handcuff black and brown communities to public school system so these are the types of things we stand for in every black life matters it's not again it's not it's It's not a statement

of superiority, a statement of equality. Can we stop targeting the black community for, you know, tethering us to the school systems, tethering us to black genocide, tethering us to Marxist, you know, ideas that prevent us from actually wanting to create our own businesses, become entrepreneurs and all the other things. And so that's why we are the anti BLM, anti NAACP.

We are this if you if you care at all about black life we're the sincere movement towards that okay so you can go to everyblm.com and you can get information about us and join us you know sincerely become a part of us and and help us to to make sure we we have that that stand publicly and on the tip of the spirit and culture so we can help you with your children and your communities and and all of that so i so that's when we started every black life matters and all the books have

I've sort of come out in between all the things that we do. But I think what the Lord found in me is sort of, hey, this brother's a fighter. He'll tell anybody, anytime, anywhere, which I will. I don't care. I don't have an ax to grind with anybody, but I'm sure not going to let evil prevail in my midst. I'm going to stand up against it, whether it's a pastor, a bishop, a prelate, a double doctor, a community leader. Right. I don't care. Let's let's have that conversation. Let's let's get to it.

Well, I think, you know, I mean, this is 2000 years of human history here. We know what makes people successful and it is the family. Exactly what you're saying. And how can you have, you know, everybody jumped on the Black Lives Matter because we do want people to know that black lives matter. We want people to know that we care about them. Right. And that God has his children. Right. And so I think that's the part that we all we don't want these things to happen

in our country. We don't want this racism. But at the same time, look at their solution. Like you're saying, they openly are saying, destroy the nuclear family. Right. Right. And so go ahead. So what I encourage people is that, you know, when you have any organization, I don't care what kind of organization it is.

If it is tied to marxism in any way shape or form it's not only demonic but it's wholly destructive there is nothing that you can redeem out of marxism period hard stop a new story and i challenge anyone to challenge me on that i've written about marx to a large degree in my last couple of books woke up and then dei and 3d but a lot of people are not familiar so if you don't mind, I'll give you a brief thumbnail as to why I'm so,

you know, committed that there is no way, there is no way to redeem any part of Marxism, including Black liberation theology and liberation theology generally, which 40% of our Black churches adhere to today. This is demonic in our midst, and we must stand against it. Now, the reason why I'm so emphatic about Marx is this. I'm going to give you a brief background. A lot of people don't know this about Karl Marx, But Karl Marx had a protege. I mean, he had a mentor.

Sorry. He was a protege of Charles Robert Darwin. He and Engels loved Darwin. They wanted to commit their Communist Manifesto to Darwin and, you know, dedicate it to him and all that. So they are products of Darwin. Now, here's the problem with Darwin. Darwin is the one in human history, the first renowned scientist in human history to assert that blacks are still trying to climb his evolutionary scale. They are subhuman, gorillas, apes and savages.

It's all in The Descent of Man, his second book. So so Marx is of that mindset. said. So when you talk about white supremacy, when you talk about racism, fully inculcated in Darwin's works. Now, did we have tribalism and ethnic strife and all that prior to Darwin making these audacious proclamations? Absolutely. We did. We had slavery going on. It's fine. So we had that. But Darwin is the first scientist in human history, To say, you know, all humans really, we're not equal. Yeah, no, no.

God didn't create one human. No, no, there is no such thing as God, first of all. Second of all, we humans evolve in rates and stages over time. Guess what? Whites are supreme. We evolve first. We're elites. And, oh, look at the blast. They're still trying to climb the evolutionary scale. They're subhuman, age gorillas, and savages, like I said. This is Dharma. Now, Marx takes on this entire mindset and doubles down with his racism. He grows up. He never had a job.

So he was how is he going to be? How is any of his philosophies going to help anything economically anywhere at any time? Of course, there's Marxism, socialism kind of has always failed because they're completely antithetical to human experience and employment.

Employment so it's never going to work because you have a person who's never had a job so mark's never had a job he had seven children he was a grifter and in the sense that he had to borrow money for seven children his entire life in his parents life from his parents so he you know he he's the ultimate grifter right and a mooch from his own parents who had to support him and his seven children he had a live-in sex slave so before there was even such a thing as

sex slave Marx is the pioneer of that. He had a live-in, you know, supposedly, you know, maid who took care of his wife and the seven children himself for a decade or more, and he didn't pay her one plug nickel. As a matter of fact, what he did is he actually had a son with her.

So he was a grifter, you know a a womanizer and and certainly a sex slave right so so then this guy hates god so much he says my number one goal this is carl marx's number one goal he's i don't care if my economic philosophy is going anywhere my number one goal in life is you know i want to dethrone god wherever he exists this carl marx so he says whether it's in the synagogue or the church or the heart of men And I want to dethrone God, period.

Hard stop in the story. That's my number one goal in life. Charles Darwin, which was, again, his mentor before him, said, I'm at war with God. And I just want to go to war with God wherever. So this is the mindset of people that we now esteem. You look at the World Economic Forum, it's all about communism. Karl Marx is the man. And you wonder why demonism is rampaging. It's because we've inherited and we've adopted these demonic mindsets emanating from Marx.

Black liberation theology, which I mentioned before, is all South American Marxism. And yet we have 40% of our churches of color, black churches and some Hispanic as well, that have adopted that. Heavily racialized, heavily racist and demonic. James Cone may have been a prolific thinker, but he was, you know, a demoniac. And I don't say that with judgment. I say that, matter of fact, he could have read that work speak for itself. So the church is in a bit of a predicament.

We have these philosophies, these ideas that have been infused within our own theology now. And we're trying to write the church and make sure our kids don't become a trans or become confused with homosexuality and all this, we don't even have our act together. We're not discipling anymore. We haven't taken that seriously by and large. I'm generalizing, but I'm trying to help you to understand where we are now.

The reason why this conference that we're having is so important is that parents and church leaders and community leaders need to come together and really recognize the condition that we have right now and begin to do something positive to change it. And the way that we do that is to stand a hundred percent against anything demonic and especially anything Marxist.

You know, I mean, honestly, if you listen to anybody and you, okay, okay, here's your theory, but the question is, what do you want to do, right? What are we going to do? And there's no one that would say, you look at evolution, the action plan, the revival of the fittest, exactly how does acting like animals make the human race better, right? Right. And that's what you're bringing up. These guys have these philosophies, but then you look at their action plan and it is clearly demonic.

There's no way to go that there's nothing more satanic than kill or be killed. And that's what evolution is saying. And it breaks us down to that level. So why do we teach it in all of our schools when we never want anyone to act like that? Exactly. Right? Exactly. Same thing now. You look at LGBTQ. The solution is to hack these little children up, right?

And they're going to die virgins, and they're never going to have children before they're really of an age that they could make a decision about anything else. So was this an action plan that anybody would go, yeah, I'm down with that? Dr. Dozier, you had a question. Well, yeah, a comment and a question. I want to go back to Kevin McGarry's statement concerning 40% of the black churches. I didn't know the percentages, but I do know it's a good number of them.

And I'd like to say that one of the things that I see here is, I'm sure you know what this is, is what is known as cognitive dissonance. And I see a lot of cognitive dissonance within it because you're proclaiming to believe one thing, even your statement of faith will look strong and biblical. But then what you proclaim or propagate, as you may say, is something totally contrary to that. And I'm not saying that from, I'm not saying that from theory. I am saying that from experience.

I don't know if you know this one man, you might know him, this man in Tampa. He's a, he has a ministry, but he's also a world traveler. His name is Aubrey Shines. And I'm not, yeah, he, he has your real America voice, but the, the sound man in my ministry, he has to go to a number, he goes to a number of churches and assist them. But he was telling me that when my name or Aubrey Shine's name is mentioned with a number of these guys, this is their reply.

Oh, you're talking about those fellas. And they'll be like, man, those fellas, boom. And what he'll be doing is bringing out some of the things that are transpiring to date. And a great number of pastors, they are oblivious to this. And I believe in some cases by choice, some cases by choice, they don't want to hear it.

And many now, I just want to say this while I'm on the air, because sometimes people feel uncomfortable saying it because they may be of another ethnicity. And I understand that, but I'm not uncomfortable saying it as a black person. And it's not because, I mean, back in the day, I was a little bit older, but we might have sparred, man, because I was a pretty, I was a well-traveled fighter, man. I got to fight a lot of games. Yeah.

But when I when I thought kind of went just by me being humorous, it kind of went away. But what I what I want to say is I'll come back to it. It kind of like went away from me. But when it comes back, I'll get to it. I should have shot that humor in there. Should have stayed on point. But I'll come back. You were talking about how when you and Aubrey are brought up, how the brothers, you know, this and that. And you were about to say something about that's difficult for people to hear.

What I'm seeing here is guys are more into, we're into this thing now, and I don't know if you see it in California or not, but now all of these guys are into consecrating one another as apostles. And so you see guys walking around with their miters and your canes and their white and their red robe, and you're a power entity within yourself when all of these other things are going on. It kind of reminds me, I never forget this when I love to watch those animal shows.

I still love to watch them with especially the big cats when they're on the prowl. But there were these two gazelles in somewhere in Africa, one of those areas. And these two gazelles were locked up. They were fighting. But there were this lioness that was on the hunt. And, you know, they crouch low and get low.

And she's looking almost as though she's amused. and she's watching these two gazelles go at it fighting and while they're fighting she just gradually creeps up on them and she never really has to vote she walked right up on them it's like she takes her time reaches up her paw she grabs one and then takes her mouth and put it around his throat and when she takes it down the other one stands and looks in shock and then takes off and runs.

If there were two, they would have gotten them two meals for the price of one hunt. And I looked at that, and that's how I see a portion of the church today. You're either, your power's within yourself, you're fighting within yourself, and the enemy is saying, well, I could just creep right up on you, and there's no opposition against me. Lastly, I was talking with the pastor that had been in the ministry for a short time.

I was helping them and got them some sound equipment and everything for the ministry and started feeling a little comfortable. They started talking to me about school, theological school, and their desire to more. And I thought we had a little comfort level for a while. And I was just sharing in conversation.

And I said, one of the things that I struggle with, and I said, and it's this, I said, I cannot sit and listen to a person who says they're preaching or teaching something, And they are off with the word. They are not writing the divine word of truth. Right. I really was looking for, yeah, I understand where you're coming from. This person said to me, I needed to be careful of pride because people with a lot of knowledge can become prideful because they don't want to listen to other people.

That was the most shocking thing I could have heard. I really heard that. Wow. Wow. I'm glad we're having this podcast today because I passed a group of people that they tune into these podcasts and they're like, I mean, they're like loving it. And they do pray and they're thankful that they have a pastor that will speak truth. There are some out there, but unfortunately, it is true what you're saying. There's a great there's a great number.

I can speak for what I know. I do know Caucasian pastors, black pastors. I'm sure there are some all around, but there's a great number since we're talking about that in the black community, the African-American community that are not focused on the issues of today. Yeah.

So let me say this. You know, the reason why they don't want to say, you know, when your name and Aubrey Shines and maybe some other principal pastors or preachers come up down there, they don't want to say, well, you know, they're conservative or they're sold out.

But basically that's the sentiment that they're probably saying okay now here's the reason why and the lord helped me with this a couple years ago i was like why is it so many if we're all in this together we're all reading the word together why so many are so divided on this thing everybody's in on james cone and his radicalism and his you know collective salvation stuff and and how everybody has to come through the blacks why is everybody in on that you know and so the

actual statistic I got from, it was two years ago, it was a statistic they ran about black liberation theology and its proliferation within the black church. And the Lord helped me. He says, son, I need you to understand what forgiveness is and what it's not. And so I didn't know quite what to do with that other than study. So I studied on forgiveness. And every single time, and you know this, Dr. Dozier, every single time forgiveness is mentioned in the word of God is conditional.

And what I mean by that, let's take Matthew 6, red letter. This is Jesus talking to his disciples. And he said, you know, an earlier part of that, he says, look, now when you pray, you know, pray in your own closet, don't, you know, beat your chest.

He gives them the basic fundamentals. then he goes into the lord's prayer you know our father you know and then and forgive us as we forget right and so he goes into that and then he says okay okay okay so that's the that's the basic format of how to put together a lord's prayer but he says look look brothers and this is what he's saying in in 13 14 15 he say look brother okay so that was that but if you do not forgive. This is where it left. Your father in heaven will not forgive you.

And I was, so I never heard a sermon, a full sermon on forgiveness. So this is astounding to me that this is not preached and taught very much.

And then the Lord helped me to understand that when people demand reparations, critical race theory, equity, these are people that are still feel bitter and have an unforgiving heart. And what I'm hearing is that he says, listen, son, if you forgave critical race theory, it wouldn't make sense. It doesn't make sense to you. It's like, well, how can I hold all rights responsible for something that happened a couple hundred years ago?

If you really forgave, you had a heart that forgives, demand for reparations from generations who have since come. own. It's preposterous. It's like, well, what? You're not responsible for my condition. If you actually had a relationship of the sufficiency of the cross, any demands like that are preposterous because you know I have you where I want you. God, if I can do whatever I want. So it's not about what some man did or didn't do to you.

It's about where I, God, your father, Jesus, who you're You're supposed to be yoked to where we're leading you. So why are you going to hold people accountable for your condition? It's your condition.

So these are the things that need to be understood in the context of the body of Christ. We have a lot of people that are up there that are harboring unforgiveness and wear it as a badge of honor, wear it as a blanket of support. These people are perishing. Their eternal future has an existential consequence to them. And we as loving brothers and brothers and sisters need to help them understand. Look, I understand you still feel bitter about what white supposedly did or Mr.

White man here and how they got all the money and all this. Stop it, please. It's not. Don't stop it because of me. Stop it because of you. This is you that you're harming. By continuing in this kind of thought. And then you take them to Matthew 6, you take them to Mark 11, 25, 26. Then you take them to Ephesians 2. And you say, look, the reason why we shouldn't have any of these thoughts, especially within the body of Christ, is we're all brothers.

Ephesians 2, 14 and 21 talks about Jesus broke every barrier, every barrier, male, female, Jew, Gentile, which is far worse than white lack that we have today. Jew-Gentile back in the day, that was some serious animus right there. And he broke every barrier. Galatians 3.28, Jesus broke every barrier. And now we're all one in Christ. So how could we, within the body of Christ, point, oh, you're a white Christian nationalist.

That's why you don't want your kids to go to, you know, and learn anything about trans because you're a racist white Christian. Excuse me? How are we within the body going to point and condemn others? We have become the accuser of the brethren talked about in Revelation 12. Amen. We have become condemners of the brethren when God himself, this is how audacious and how much hubris we have today.

Romans 8 and 1 says, look, therefore, if you guys are in Christ, there is no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. This is God making a proclamation that, look, you have my son, no condemnation, whatever.

And we have the audacity to condemn others now within the body of christ, do you know how god must be like what in the world and looking at the sun like, if we said we don't condemn how do you understand we're in a very crazy time a lot of it is just the devil infiltrating you know our thing but wait we we don't even we don't even make sense to ourselves now because of what we do.

Yeah it's like i've really been talking a lot i'm sorry yeah i know you guys oh it's excellent very great points i mean but it's like pride idolatry holding on to that unforgiveness you know matthew 7 you know take the plank out of your own eye where you can remove the speck from your brother's eye yeah that's hypocritical right that's what he's talking about but yeah both of you were talking about black liberation theology i understand a little bit bit of it but there may be some in the

audience that do not understand that so could you give a summation of what that is and and how that differs from uh the true gospel yeah so i'll start i know dr dozier probably has a lot on that too so james cone is the guy who who went to south america spent some time with south american liberation theologists down there and liberation theology is all South American Marxism, okay? So that's where it comes from.

So after he spent time there, he comes back and he says, look, we're going to, you know, we're going to focus in on black, black fight. We have, you know, we're going to add to this gospel. We need a social activism component. You know, forget about, you know, the one relationship between you and God. This is a collective theology.

Our salvation comes collectively. We all learn and grow together as our white brothers and sisters this embrace us and our our plight then they'll also gravitate within a a salvation motif if you will so and this is very high level stuff i mean he has specific things that he his proclamations and all i have a whole presentation i do on james cone and his some of his specific statements but But in essence, it is a racist idea that divides the body of Christ based on skin color.

Saying, look, we blacks, we're the ones, we're the chosen ones, if you will. And whites need to be serving us so they can actually gain salvation through their accommodation of us. It's a social activist type of a gospel. Now, and I know Dr. Dozier has probably much more to say about this. He's studying and he knows this. But before I get off of this, I just want to say, read Galatians 1.8 and 1.9.

Our brother Paul says, look, even if an angel from heaven comes and gives you one iota of a different gospel than what we have preached, they are cursed to hell. He was so emphatic about it, so emphatic about it, he repeated himself and went nine. This is the only place in Scripture where I found verbatim, just about, maybe one left out, between two Scriptures. He was emphatic. So this is a serious proclamation. And yet we have, you know, a lot of people within our black churches that are

preaching another gospel, right? Right. Dr. Dozier, I don't know if you have more to add to that, but I just say you did a very good job with that excellent job. As a matter of fact, I would just say when you just mentioned in South America, when you look at that, you had your peasants and you could say they're overlords or the aristocratic. And so the peasants were the oppressed and the ones who were working for the ones who were over them, they were the oppressors.

And they really did do like when they looked at some of the scripture, they did some of these things that were supposed to be figurative in a literal sense, for example, taking up arms and what as. Kevin is bringing out, it was adopted here and what I'd say here was that the black man is the oppressed and the white man is the oppressor. Therefore, when they look at Luke 4, 18, the spirit of the Lord is upon me if he's not in me, be useful.

And so what they say now is that that means that the white, because the white man has the money and he and the black man is supposed to be the poor. He is the oppressor. And so Jesus came for the black man. And so whatever nation it's in, whoever seems to whoever is supposed to be the oppressed people there, when in truth, all of us were oppressed with sin.

They take this literally and they just place it on a different on a certain ethnicity and so that's why you see some of the things that you see in truth uh and in truth this in itself i see it as a hybrid of marxism that's basically what i said because what did karl marx do he he divided the proletariat and the bourgeoisie uh and and so he had the the workers the peasants and those went And that's what you end up seeing. And it has a great degree of covetousness in it.

Definitely much atheism in it, whether people want to accept that or not, because there is no room for God in the midst of that. No room for God. If you are using that in a church, then the true and living God cannot be the God that you serve. And you end up worshiping, as you might say, you end up worshiping color more so than you worship God. Creating an idol is what you're doing. But to follow up on that, isn't that where critical race theory is along the same lines of that?

Absolutely so yeah theory but it's all yeah so critical theory so a lot of people have not really connected the dots with marxism critical race theory dei and all this marxism is the underpinning of all of it okay so critical theory comes out of you know so when hitler was doing his crazy stuff in germany he had four profound uh you know philosopher types that were part of his regime that escaped came here united states they set up shop at columbia university and they

call it the just a little bit the the anyway there's four of them professors and they came here the frankfurt school frankfurt school in columbia yeah and so they set up frankfurt school and and their thing was we're diehard marxists and so we're just going to infiltrate academia.

With marxist ideas now a lot of people don't understand marx says you need to critically assess and overturn do a 180 on everything his idea that that the way communism comes in which is his utopia was everything must be completely every hegemonic influence must be completely overturned so the family the school people's belief in their identity gender sex all that must be completely turned upside down.

So when you understand what's happening now in that context, you see, oh, this is all a Marxist plot. So with critical theory comes Derrick Bell in the 1970s. He says, look, I want to, you know, he and some other black attorneys, they got in a room and they had this big powwow and they said, look, we need to take this critical theory, Marxist stuff, turn it into a way that helps us as a black race. And so we'll turn it, we'll call it critical race We look at what's happening

with our race. We do have oppressors. We are the oppressed. We do have victimizers. We are the victims. And this is where this comes from. So we need to hate the colonizers. We need to hate those that oppress us. And so CRT, the reason why it's so emphatic that it cannot be in our school systems, I'm so glad you guys have a good governor down there, understood this early and he never allowed it, is because it literally teaches children, literally teaches children how to hate.

Now i don't know about you guys but hate is is something that i don't really my personality i don't gravitate to that i can dislike somebody but hate that's a that's a level i really i don't know how that feels but but to to and also that was that can only be learned so our our ideas about hate or disliking others is learned over time what we're doing now is teaching children teaching They won. He's white. He's an oppressor. You don't hate him or her.

So this is why parents must continue to fight against this kind of a trope. The DEI is sort of taken over the CRT thing is diversity, equity, inclusion. So under the equity, this is where this this is still being practiced in a large way under the auspices of equity. Equity means we're going to have equal outcomes, irrespective of competency, skill set, level set, you know, whatever.

We're just going to place people of color here here here here here you know so we're going to have more collapsed bridges we're going to have more doors flying off airplanes we're going to have more tires flying off airplane because we have people that are grossly incompetent taking on highly specialized skillful positions and it's a scary time for america if we adopt equity in total which it's being funded by our federal government by

over three billion dollars a year coming from the from the bind administration so as this proliferates more and more it becomes more and more catastrophic and we all need to be aware that's the long and short of it i don't know dr dozer did i miss something no you you were strong you want it okay so going to a personality, wouldn't obama have personally wouldn't he have fostered this in his administration and now Now, some people say that Biden is just the third Obama administration.

So and that's why we're seeing this. Absolutely. No doubt about it. Obama unleashed, you know, he had such a great opportunity to really unify and do all kinds of great things between all people, all Americans. But he decided to unleash, you know, this sort of divisionist fraction between, you know, races and genders and everything else. So a lot of this evil was unleashed under Obama, you know, and I'll leave it there.

I know we don't want this to be a political conversation, but there's manifest evils that have come over the past, you know, 15 to 18 years. Well, you know, when you go ahead. I would like to ask this question. I'm almost certain you can elaborate on this.

But when you look at this and this CRT coming through and even some of the social justice stuff that you hear, there was an individual by the name of Saul Alinsky. Oh, yeah. Saul Alinsky worked, even though he wasn't a black man. And Saul Alinsky worked in black communities to instigate a lot of this and got some black pastors to work with him. Now, here's the problem with that. He wrote a book called Ruse Eradicates. And some people may not believe this, but he dedicated this book to Lucifer.

And he claims, he says, if there is a hell, he wants to go there. He wanted to go there because he would start something down there. But I would like for you, if you were to just elaborate on him a little bit, some of the things that happened with him and this social justice movement. Yeah. So Saul, as he was the, you know, I would say he's probably the godfather of modern day community organizing. Starting in Chicago, was a virulent atheist, a hateful guy.

But he saw that if we can antagonize blacks, if we can agitate them enough, we can use them literally.

You know a lot of people think oh well communist social justice they're they're just trying to help black no no they they're using blacks they want to use blacks they want to use our emotionalism against us they want to use our agitation and and tear down systems structural social system by way of by way of manipulating and deceiving blacks and and having them to believe that the whole system is against them. They're using and manipulating blacks. It's completely undignified.

This is not, you know, it's not, hey, we like black. No, no, they hate us. They want to use us. And so Saul Alinsky was the master of this, right, in Chicago. And one of his, you know, his disciples was Hillary Clinton. Loved him. Some people said that she had an affair with him. I don't know.

And then, of course, you know, Barack Obama, Michelle Obama, They all arise out of this with Jeremiah Wright and his church, activist church, black liberation theology churches coming out of that Saul Alinsky mindset. Rules for Radicals, if you haven't read it, it's a great book to understand the Marxist schemes, and it helps explain a lot.

It's a terrible book from a spiritual perspective, but if you just want to understand kind of what's going on and why things are so crazy, read Rules for Radicals. But yeah, he dedicated his book to Lucifer. So, Kevin, when I think about, you know, liberation theology, black liberation, you always see that fist. And that's immediately what sounds the alarm to me, because our Lord had his arms open. The Bible even says that he didn't even open his mouth.

Right. And so you see this complete, you know, breaking of the law of responsibility. Right. But then you go, this is breaking the golden rule.

It is doing to people what you did not want them to do to you, and you're only going to create another whole generation of people that are oppressed, right? Yeah. And that's exactly why the cycle is just perpetuating, and they're using all of us. The devil is using you when you are not forgiving people, and that's what we have to learn.

And until we get to that point where we can open our arms like Christ and understand that he is the only one who can take away our oppression and that sin is that oppression, that's when you make this breakthrough. And, you know, that's what comes across, that now you have the freedom, like you say in your book, to be a slave for Christ, to be, you know, whatever it is that we need to be because we already understand we've inherited the universe through our Father. Exactly.

Exactly. Exactly right. And so I'm looking forward to seeing lots of folks come out to our conference. I will be speaking more on these issues as well as the newest book, Freed to be Servant and Slave, Breaking Free of the Bondage, or finally Breaking Free of All Bondage. As a new creation in Christ. So one last thing I'll say about that is a lot of people say, look, I'm a new creation. You know, if you're in Christ, you're a new creation. And I say,

but did you really thoroughly read this? And this is really important. If you could take anything away from this, take this away. I struggled why the church is so divided. And I petition God. I'm like, I don't understand it. We're all one in Christ. We're all new new creations? How is it that we have people castigating us as white Christian nationalists, you this and that, you're white and you're color? All within the body of Christ. Of course, we're going to be from the world.

We expect that. But within the body I'm talking about. So I really questioned God, like, I can't make sense of this. If we have one lower, one master, how is it? He said, no, you don't.

What you're seeing is not people who are in christ and i said well what who are not new creations and i said well how is that how can you it says if you're in christian new creation he says no no no read further i read second Corinthians 5 multiple times then i got to the part where it made sense it says if you have if you regard anybody as you regarded them in the world now the second Corinthians 5 started at 11 and you'll read it. It's around 13, 14. You'll get the whole context.

This is a predicate for being a new creation. He says, remember, son, a new creation is just like a baby being born. You don't have any regard. In other words, what happened in the past will not move you. You may not forget. Of course not. We can't forget horrible atrocities like slavery and whatever somebody else did to us and all that. But you don't regard their skin color. You have no regard for it. You have no context for it. Because you're a new creation.

So if you're a new creation, how could you have context for, oh, you're a white color? He says, so what you're seeing are new creations and those who think that they're in Christ and a new creation, but they haven't yet arrived at that point because they still regard people the way they regarded them in the world. The word is clear, guys. I mean, it just reads like Corinthians 5. It was life-changing for me because it helped me.

So the reason why we have like T.D. Jakes and Jamal Bryan and Mike Bickle and even Beth Moore who has this whole different perspective, John Piper and all these people, you know, Platt and all these stuff. The reason, he says, they're just not new creations, son.

It doesn't mean that they're going to hell today. day but it means that they're not a new creation and you need to pray for them help them come alongside them bring them into the reality of that they're not living according to you know it's fine but we need to understand that just because somebody has a position or they're a powerful person or we regard them as a theologian now or in the past means nothing.

So kevin i go ahead i i can't help but think but that moment where Pilate's trying to tell Jesus, I don't want to kill you, man. And then Jesus says, listen, you couldn't have any power over me at all. That's what he says to him. He's in the worst position we can imagine ourselves being, and he takes control of it right there. And then he says that his kingdom is not of this world. And that's what you're talking about.

Jesus already knew exactly what you're saying, that we are a new creation, that none of this stuff, all that you're regarding is not what we're supposed to be regarding. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. And once we get that, then we can have a unified body of Christ. Then we could see the billions old harvest. Then we could see revival in America. Right now, we're well away from that.

But with this conference you're putting on, you brothers and us getting together and understanding what's really happening here, we can break this into to you know existence in a not too short there's all kinds of things that are going to be happening this year as well that i think will usher in more people into the kingdom because the calamity and the chaos it's going to be worldwide it's going to start here next week with the eclipse

and some of this other stuff i believe but we'll help usher in people but we need to be sincere about our commitment to disciple and help them understand the basic tenets repentance and forgiveness. What and and doing my i'm in the process of doing my dissertation and in the process of this what i realize is that we've we've we've we we're missing some steps. Because we have this sinner's prayer that was done with the revivalists and the early evangelists in the 1800s.

This concept of the sinner's prayer. And it's great. I mean, we were all brought into the kingdom via the sinner's prayer. I'm not bemoaning it. But we have to understand that that is a creation that came out thousands of years after the church, the release of the New Testament church that Paul released. So there's some things that are missing there. People should know when you say that you are saved, you must, it must include the forgiveness piece.

Because according to Jesus, unless you learn to do that piece, Father in heaven is not forgiving you. So we have a lot of people that we need to really kind of reconcile truth with, right? We need to spend time and help them through this. And so these conversations, this podcast is wonderful for helping to spread the gospel in this way. So anyway, I know I've taken a lot of your time. I don't know how much we're appreciative, Kevin, and thanks for coming on.

But how can we pray for you, brother, before we get off today? OK, a couple of things. So let's let's pray that this conference will be successful, that God would anoint the lips of all the speakers and especially mine, you know, to speak truth and to help people.

You know we're only doing this conference because we're committed that people need to understand and know and and really grasp the truth of the times that we're living in now and want to bring them into the kingdom for real for real and so you know help help all the speakers to prepare for that for that meaningful time and then pray for me personally that so i have a couple things going So I have everyblm.com and then I have a locals site.

So if you go on locals, you type in the DEI guy on that channel, what I do is I try to help people understand what's happening with DEI, diversity, equity, inclusion. And because it's having an impact on our everyday life everywhere, it's inescapable.

And so continue to pray for me to have wisdom on that site, how to build it and how to make sure that we educate people appropriately with what's happening with this whole equity piece and how this is all coming out and and so if you can just all the things that the lord puts my hands to i want to be just do well with i don't want to just you know do stuff just because just because i don't have a need to be popular or famous or rich i that means nothing to me i just want to whatever,

whatever the Lord has me to, okay, put me on tip of the spear and culture and release me and allow me to be effective. So people's lives can be changed. That to me is everything. So if you can just pray that, that for me, that'd be awesome. Dr. Dozier. Father, we bless you and we honor you and we thank you for grace and mercy. We thank you for gracing us to do this podcast. We thank you for our brother, our guest today, Kevin McGarry.

And Lord God, even as requests was made, we pray for the success of this conference, that many lives will be impacted, that people will keep not just here, Lord God, but that they will allow that which they've heard to remain in their heart, that they will contemplate those things, Lord, Lord, and that you will grace them with an action plan to walk out your will in this time and season. And we also lift up Kevin's ministries. Every Black Lives Matter.

Lord, you have graced him and you have used the boldness that you gave him, Lord, to do the work that he is doing. And we just pray, Lord God, that even as he walks in this boldness, that you will give him divine protection. You will watch over him, Lord, guide him. And even in his work on diversity, equity, and inclusion. I pray, Lord, in the name of Jesus, that even as they do that work, that many chains will be broken, Lord, and that many eyes will be opened and many hearts will be set free.

We do thank you. And we believe that you're going to get, Lord, we know that all the glory for the thing that you ordained belong to you. We thank you for that now in Jesus' name. Amen. Jesus' name. Amen. Thanks so much. Appreciate you guys. I'm going to get to see you in a little, like a week, almost a week now. So, you know, a week. Yeah, I'll be there on, let's see, I arrive on Thursday. Yep. And so, yeah, you know, a week from now, we'll get to chop it up,

spend time together in person. It's going to be awesome. Sounds good. Sounds good. And now I know I'm going to be looking up because I can see how tall you are, brother. Some height. You've got some height. All right. Well, I'm glad that you've grown into a bully against Satan. in this. Thank you, Lord Jesus. Bust him up. Bust him up. God bless you. Thanks so much for coming. Thank you, guys. Appreciate you. Have a great day.

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