¶ Intro / Opening
I'm alex and i'm super i'm dr thomas dozier and i am also super hi i'm dr dennis and i am the natural hey i'm dr kevin that makes me the junkie oh yeah and we are the supernatural junkie, hey welcome to the supernatural junkie sansla alex no alex today nobody dr dozier's not here Nobody's taking up the super, you know, moniker here today.
¶ Introduction to the Supernatural Junkie
Dr. Dennis, do you feel sometimes snubbed the fact that they always want to be super and that leaves us natural or junky? Do you feel that way, Doc? I'm always the junkie. I thought I was the junkie. I thought you were the natural. Oh, yeah. Anyways, well, we've got another super person on here. We have Dr. Kevin Stillwagon on with us. And, of course, we've had him on multiple
times. but just to give you a little rehearse here, Kevin and his family, a little famous in chiropractic because they came up with the technique. And he's also been a pilot. And for many years, he also, of course, since COVID happened, like a lot of us, including Dennis and I, we, you know, this particular narrative happening in the world has just got our attention.
So welcome, Kevin Still Wagon today. And we're going to be getting into a lot of, you know, basically what's happening with the vaccine. And there could be a few I told you so's on this particular program. This is what I'm saying. So welcome, Kevin. So thanks. Great to have great to be here. So first one, I'm going to throw it out to you guys. You know, what do you think here?
You know, Trump, we get this miracle election, at least maybe a stay in our execution, possibly, but certainly a step in the right direction. And then, you know, he comes out and he kind of already made the deal before he even became president to have RFK taken over where the CDC and the FDA left off. So how do you feel about that one, Kevin? Well, I think that RFK Jr. is definitely the right man for the job.
I mean, he's got the experience of being an attorney and dealing with corporate corruption. You know, it basically started with trying to clean up environmental issues and then moved on to a different environmental issue. And that has to do with the bloodstreams of our children. you know, the direct injection of toxins into their bloodstreams. And so, you know, he's going to have to get through a Senate confirmational hearing. There's going to be some serious pushback on that. There already is.
You know, I mentioned that he knows a lot about, you know, corporate overreach and corruption. And, you know, the former FDA administrator was Scott Gottlieb, And now he's on the board of directors of Pfizer. So, you know, Kennedy's going to be looking into stuff like that. This, you know, this crosstalking between supposedly regulatory agencies and who funds them, that's got to come to an end.
And so he'll be looking into that for sure. Also, I think he's going to take a serious look at the PrEP Act. You know, there's a lot of industries right now that are trying to hide behind the PrEP Act. And in fact, Biden just the other day extended the liability protection for any manufacturers of the COVID-19 vaccine and administrators and distributors of that shot.
He extended their liability protection all the way through December the 31st of 2029, which to me sounds like maybe there's an admission of guilt there, but we'll see. You know, Kennedy is going to look into that as well. And I think he's going to challenge the constitutionality of the PREP Act.
There seems to be, you know, a misalignment of power there. It gives too much power to the federal government versus where it should be with health related, you know, things like this down to the state level. And there's also discriminatory factors involved because, you know, people that were injured by this countermeasure, the shot is called a countermeasure. People that were injured by that, they're discriminated against. So I think there's some unconstitutionality there that he'll look into.
Also, I know for a fact, one of the first things he's going to look into is a possible link between, you know, the childhood administration or the childhood vaccine schedule as recommended by the CDC and the explosion of autism in this country. And I think we can see already that it's directly tied to. Exposure to environmental toxins. This could be coming from the food supply. He'll look at that. And as I already mentioned, he'll also look into the dumping
of these toxins into our children's bloodstreams. Dr. Dennis? I think that's a very good appointment, RFK, if he gets through. And Kevin, I think I sent you that the other day that there is a battle already about his confirmation.
Yeah and then you and i were speaking about the prep act about the liability shield that they have up for this i don't know how something like this could be constitutional but even if it were, we had spoke on podcasts with you in the past about what you call willful misconduct. And this with everything coming out and what was known and all the pfizer records and so forth This was willful misconduct. They never tested this vaccine properly before they released it on the public.
And under emergency use for protection, but then they mandated, which went against most international law and so forth. So we're in a situation here where this so-called shield needs to be pierced. And I think that's one thing that I hope RFK has the support behind him to do so. There's a lot of money in that industry, though, and that's going to be hard for them to go against because, you know, you know, Big Pharma is the biggest lobbyist in Washington, D.C.
Right. I definitely, definitely want to see the 1986 vaccine. Law repealed. I think we definitely need that. Unfortunately, I think most childhood vaccines right now should be stopped, taken off the market. All vaccines should, but even including the childhood vaccines until they test it properly against a true placebo in a randomized control study. I agree.
So, you know, the great thing here, you know, as we've said, if we were to say the Achilles heel of Trump is clearly this Operation Warp Speed that put this vaccine out and unfortunately has been very proud of that. But, you know, we look at Kennedy and I feel like, hey, this is, this could be some actual repentance on his part to appoint the guy that would have arguably disagreed with him more than anybody on the planet. You know, he has started the Children's Health Defense.
It's a great website. They never went for one of this, one of this narrative at all. I mean, it's just been one of great sources for parents to see the truth about the health of their children. So I just look at this as an incredible appointment. And of course, now we're looking at a little controversy here, maybe not a great match with the new, you know, Surgeon General. Yeah. I'm going to leave this to Kevin because he was able to say her name so good.
Yeah, her name is Jeanette Neshwat. And well, she is a medical doctor. And unfortunately, she's come out recently and made ridiculous statements like everybody's got to go get one of these COVID combination flu booster shots, which has never been tested for safety. They never tested the administration of both of these shots together at the same time to see what the safety factor would be. So, hey, you know, if you want to turn yourself into a pin cushion and enter
yourself into a trial, well, you know, it's a free country. Go ahead and do that. But, you know, she's following what she calls the science. And, you know, the science says that if you inject something into your body that either contains foreign proteins or has the message to make foreign proteins, the end result of that is going to be antibodies. And those antibodies are going to protect you. Well, I can tell you that it will create antibodies.
If you take dirt out of your backyard and mix it with saline and put it in a syringe and put it in your body, you will get antibodies. But they're not going to be protective antibodies because your body was designed to experience the entire organism, whatever it was. And that builds the well-rounded long lasting immunity that'll be with you for the rest of your life. But where they're getting mixed up is this idea of like, like a snake venom thing.
So if you're bitten by a rattlesnake, for example, what do they do to save your life. They put in rattlesnake anti-venom. Well, what is that? Anti-venom is antibodies. Well, where did it come from? It came from another animal that experienced the rattlesnake venom in its entirety, all of it, not weakened. Not altered in any way, experienced the whole thing. And those antibodies are definitely strong and powerful antibodies and can save your life.
But where they got mixed up was they started this idea of, well, if we just inject, you know, parts of pathogenic organisms like viruses or bacteria, if we just inject little bits of that into the human body, those antibodies are going to be protective. Well, they're not. Fauci already admitted that it won't stop you from getting infected. The reason is very simple. Those antibodies are called serum antibodies.
They're inside of you. They cannot stop something from getting from the outside to the inside, which is the way viruses and bacteria get in you. They come through that epithelial barrier. So no, injecting these things will not protect you from getting infected. So then they'll change the narrative and say, well, when you do get infected, it will make your experience with the disease systems less.
Well, that's not true either, because unfortunately, the antibodies that are created are pointing at the wrong proteins on these organisms because they constantly change in the environment. So what you've done is you focused your immune system on what was just injected into you, not what is actually circulating in the population. So there's no protection against infection and there's no protection against disease symptoms either. So Dennis, you got a verse for us, brother?
Yes, I do have a verse that goes along with this podcast very well. It is from 1 Corinthians 6, verse 19 and 20, and Paul's talking about the temple of the body. And it says do you not know that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you whom you have from God and you are not your own you were bought with a price therefore glorify God in your body and in your spirit which are God's. Well, praise the Lord. We're going to need that verse today because there's
something about your body that is ultimately important. It's not just a box that we live in. This is where our spirit and our body are actually connected. And you'll see that's the key here. So obviously I want to segue because Kevin's going to be taking over here and explaining more. But you can see we've already come out to talk about how all of the things we've been sharing about the vaccine narrative, the false narrative, has really been coming out to continue to be a lie.
And we, of course, are hopeful now with some of these new appointments. But the truth is going to come out. And the Bible says that be where your sins will find you out. And this is what's happening now. So when Kevin starts to say that there's a problem with some health, okay, negative health effects from these vaccines. Here's kind of what he's saying. It all started right away.
John Hopkins came out, multiple other people came out saying that virtually everything we did with respect to the COVID narrative was wrong. Whether it was mass lockdowns. And of course, finally, the vaccine really came into play here. So, you know, this is causing uproar around the world because we can see that the media really has gone along with this. It's only really very few sources that really went against this narrative.
I mean, you've got the who you've got all the governments all around the world, all saying the same thing at the same time. But again, we can see the reality of what's happened. And so this is example in Japan where the entire society is, again, extremely anxious about any vaccines of all. You think about those kids that were going to get vaccine in Africa and you you see them jumping out the windows and you go, man, you know, what is it that they know that we don't know?
So this is now causing a lot of businesses to not even let vaccinated people in. The truth has come out not through the media, but through all these other sources. You know, to the point that we have, you know, lots of things happening. And this is, of course, a very cool one. But, you know, again, this is a judge in the Netherlands that's saying that Bill Gates needs to actually come and stand trial for some COVID vaccine injury claims.
Now, we've seen states in America do the same thing where they're going after some of these, you know, basically vaccine companies. In Florida, we also had, you know, one county in Florida was able to show that this was a bioweapon. This was not an actual vaccine. So this is kind of the idea that we've seen. We've seen this narrative grow that not only was it changing the terms, but this has caused a tremendous amount of harm. And that's what you're going to see as we go through this.
So, Kevin, what do you think about that part about it being a bioweapon? Well, it absolutely is a bioweapon because it's encapsulated in what's called a lipid nanoparticle. Yeah, so there's an image of the lipid nanoparticle that's on the screen right there. And you can see that it's basically a fat bubble. It's made of lipids on the outside of it, and they're normal body fats. One of them is cholesterol, and the other one is a long and fancy name that's
fun to say. It's DSPC. These are normal body fats. And it was cleverly designed that way so that when it's injected into your body, it doesn't create an immune response. And so these lipid nanoparticles literally go everywhere. They get into your bloodstream. They cross the blood, the blood brain barrier. And any, any cell that they come in contact with, they basically merge with because they're, they're made of the same stuff.
And so when that merge happens, then there are smaller lipid nanoparticles that are inside of the larger lipid nanoparticle. And those smaller lipid nanoparticles are proprietary. They're different between Pfizer and Moderna. Pfizer used one called ALC315 and Moderna used one called SM102. And if you look these things up, you can see that they are extremely toxic. In fact, they're not supposed to be used in veterinary or human use except for experimental purposes, which is exactly what this was.
This was a global experiment that failed. And so going back to the image, you can see that inside of those smaller lipid nanoparticles are the modified RNA. And those are different also. They're proprietary. Pfizer's was called tozinamaran and Moderna's was called elasomaran. And that's the fancy name that they used for their mRNA concoction that supposedly coded for the spike protein that was on the original Wuhan virus that the Chinese published the genetic sequence of.
But if you actually look up the genetic sequences of the actual virus spike protein that was published by the Chinese and tozinamaran and ellisomaran, they're all different. They don't match. So this mRNA that you're being injected with does create a protein for sure. But what protein is it exactly? They never told us. All we know is that they're different between Pfizer and Moderna and they differ from the original spike protein.
But the problem is when you start creating proteins inside of cells, which is what your cells do, our cells are basically protein manufacturing plants. They manufacture and secrete proteins all day long. But these proteins that are being secreted from these mRNA injections, they're not normal proteins like the proteins that you eat or the proteins that, you know, your cells are making and secreting all of the time.
When those proteins get into your bloodstream, they are willingly taken in by other body cells so that they can be used for other purposes, but not these proteins. Not these ones that are being coded for by the mRNA. These are what are called biologically active proteins. What does that mean? That means that when they get into your bloodstream, they will attach to cellular receptors and just sit there. Well, your immune system doesn't like that, and it will have an immediate response to that.
And that response will be to destroy that cell, to get rid of it. So depending upon the amount of spike proteins that your body makes, which is going to differ from person to person, we know that now. It depends on many, many things, including your diet, the pH of your cells. All kinds of different things. Where the tip of the needle was when the plunger was pushed, there's too many variabilities. So some people are going to make lots and lots of spike proteins and others not so much.
And that kind of explains the reason why some people get these severe adverse reactions and other people don't. But the point that I'm trying to make is the spike, the proteins that are made will attach to cellular receptors. That causes an immune response. The immune response is going to be to kill that cell. That's tissue loss. That's pathology. and depending upon where this happens, it can be quite serious.
If it happens all over the body, they have a name for that. It's called multi-inflammatory syndrome and it can be deadly. In fact, it can take a person out in a matter of minutes if this happens to you. If it happens in localized areas like the heart, then you get problems that are sometimes even subclinical, that don't have any symptoms at all, like myocarditis. But they can be deadly too because the first symptom of that is going to be sudden heart failure.
And this explains some of the videos that you've probably seen running out around on the internet of perfectly healthy athletes just dropping dead on the field from their heart stopping. So yeah, these are dangers of injecting mRNA into your body. And it's going to happen every single time, no matter what protein they tell you it's making. This will happen. that. And another danger is the protein itself can be toxic, and we know that the spike protein is toxic.
Now, in order for a protein to be toxic, it will have actions on cell membranes without even attaching to a cellular receptor. It totally evades the immune system, but it has an effect on cell membranes. It can actually harm cell membranes, put holes in cell membranes. And we know that the spike protein has a capability of doing that, even in nerve tissue on myelin sheaths.
And that can explain some of the problems that we're seeing with people that develop problems like seizures, Guillain-Barre syndrome, Bell's palsy. You see, this is a very, very dangerous, dangerous platform. But why are they doing this? Why is the government allowing this to proceed? The answer is because they think that the antibodies that are created by doing this are going to be protective. And they're not. And I already covered that.
They're just not going to protect you from getting an infection. The protection of infection is cellular. It has not much to do with these things called antibodies whatsoever. In fact, the antibodies can destroy that cellular protection. Well, I think Dr. Kevin's absolutely correct. I mean, we... Wait a minute. We'll talk to Kevin.
¶ The False Narrative of Vaccination
You got the Kevin... You're dealing with a false narrative. The false narrative of vaccination. And we've covered this, I think, last time we had him on, where when you're bypassing, you're injecting something and bypassing the cellular immunity, you're not activating your immune system properly. And it's actually more harmful.
And I think we see this in evident since 1990, the level of autoimmune disease in this country has skyrocketed and we before 1990 you never saw allergies to peanuts or you people with eczema or you know so i have to have the diseases that we see have come out and that brings me back to and i i should have the copy the book and i have a book a chiropractic book from 1938 and this is when there was a war going on. Wait a minute, Dennis. Is that how old you really are?
Yeah. Yeah. No, I actually got the, I actually received the book from my ex-wife's grandmother who went to a chiropractor in Yonkers, New York. And the book was put out and what the book shows is that there was a battle going on between the chiropractic profession and the medical profession. And that's when, right before we started getting into vaccinations, but the chiropractors saw it coming on the horizon.
And they were being, remember, that's when they were being thrown into jail for practicing medicine without a license. What they had seen is that if you can get a person vaccinated and you can control their health from cradle to grave, because the vaccination process, what happens is damages the immune system. And when you damage the immune system, the people cannot respond to disease properly.
And then all of a sudden they're dependent on all these different medications to manage the symptoms of the diseases that they have. And that's exactly what we saw 60 years later when you look into the 90s and the 2000s, And now you have people that are walking around with these autoimmune diseases, and a lot of them were brought on by vaccination schedule that was increased exponentially since 1986.
Let me jump in here first, Kevin. So, you know, what we've been talking about on our show, we did a great expose on just SM102. And, you know, I want to get to the main topic for Kevin today, but the reality of what he just showed us with these lipo nanoparticles is that they found a way to violate every cell in your body to break it open. This is the first vaccine that crossed the blood brain barrier because they want to put something in your body.
They want to change the information that DNA, you could put whatever information you want. Right. And so the question is, this is where you go back to, we had Kevin talking about, you know, natural immunity. I mean, the reality for all of us, we know the only reason humanity is here is not because of vaccines. We've seen a lot worse things in human history and we survived everyone because of natural immunity. Okay. So this gets down to who do you trust to program yourselves?
Because we became disobedient to what God put inside of ourselves. And we allow this lipo nanoparticle, and we're going to see now contamination of even DNA, you know, we allow this to happen and we've trusted our doctors and these companies to be smarter than God. I mean, that's the reality of the situation. So that being said, I want to show you this next clip because it's about Joseph Latipo breaking open something that we've been saying since 2004. Just take a listen.
These vaccines have DNA in them. Everyone knows what DNA is. They're contaminated with DNA and that's not necessarily a big deal, but it's a problem with these vaccines because the DNA hangs on with the mRNA and goes into people's cells. So this is a completely different risk analysis than other products that have had DNA. These vaccines are honestly, they're the antichrist of all products. The antichrist of all products. The Surgeon General of Florida joins us now to explain what he means.
Doctor, thank you so much for coming on i remember at the beginning of the vax mandates there were people on the fringes as we say who raised questions about the the potential of this drug this brand new this novel vaccine which wasn't really a vaccine to affect people's dna and they were immediately described as crazy tell us your concerns if you wouldn't mind fleshing out a little bit what we saw in that clip.
So I'm going to stop right there because all three of us had these same concerns, you know, from the very beginning. So here he is admitting that he didn't see any problem here at first. And then all of a sudden he's able to step away at some point and go, guess what, folks? Not only is this potential, but these vaccines were contaminated with DNA because when they made the mRNA.
It wasn't really mRNA. It was actually a modified version that's made from taking DNA apart, which ended up leaving some particles of DNA left in. And then this is what he says after that. But the problem here is that, you know, for the same reason that scientists won a Nobel Prize, this DNA isn't like other DNA in terms of having a very hard time penetrating into cells.
This DNA hangs on with mRNA in that lipid nanoparticles that people hear and frankly, probably roll their eyes out, their eyes over. It hangs on with it and it comes into the cells almost certainly hitchhiking along with the mRNA. So whereas in the past, DNA would have a very hard time, even entering cells. Here, the DNA is getting delivered into cells with the lipid nanoparticles.
And that's a problem. And that's a problem because each dose of mRNA COVID-19 vaccine probably contains, it's been estimated between billions and hundreds of billions of fragments of DNA. So this is a completely different risk analysis. That is obvious. You don't need a PhD to be able to figure that out. Do you think it's conceivably possible that the mRNA vaccines change people's DNA or could?
It's absolutely possible. I mean, we wouldn't, I wouldn't have issued this, this call to halt their use if that wasn't possible. On a factual basis, it is absolutely possible. There's, there's zero question about that.
Now, the real question is whether it is happening, if it is happening, the degree to which it's happening, the location of effective cells and the potential for that to cause, whether it's cancer or heritable characteristics, That is to say that is it affecting things like people's, a woman's eggs or a man's sperm such that it could be passed on or whatever else it potentially could be causing. But it absolutely is a possibility.
There's zero question about that. The real question is whether it's a possibility worth investigating. The obvious answer is yes, even though the FDA and Dr. Paul Marks, Peter Marks, pardon me, wants you to believe that the answer is no. Well, that would change humanity if that were happening forever. So, I mean, if you're reading between the lines here, once you contaminate the sperm, the egg, we could be in a situation where they have genetically polluted the entire human race.
And again, that is something that's worth investigating. That's a worst case scenario that we've been talking about our podcast now for over four years. And I know Dr. Kevin wants to say something here too. Go ahead, Kevin. Yeah, well, Dr. Latipo called it the antichrist of vaccines, and he's absolutely correct. And it's because you're desecrating your temple. You're potentially making a permanent change to your DNA, which is God's fingerprint
that he gave you from the time of conception. That's how your body was constructed, using that DNA. And you want to change that by injecting something into your body that integrates and makes you a genetically modified organism that I don't think so. This is just absolute insanity how far this has gotten. And, you know, he mentioned Dr. Paul Offit, who came out and said, well, the DNA cannot integrate into your nucleus, and therefore it can't integrate into your genome.
Well, that's absolutely false. And the reason is because it's hidden inside of the lipid nanoparticle. Dr. Latipo absolutely nailed it. It's inside the lipid nanoparticle. That's the Trojan horse. That's how it gets into your cells. And then they put in there a portion of the simian virus 40. It's called a promoter gene. And it has the ability to absolutely chaperone that leftover DNA directly into your cell nucleus.
And it can, in fact, integrate into your DNA. That will change that cell line for the rest of your life. That's where the cancer is coming from. But the real danger, and this is the one that really freaks me out, is the capability of it integrating into either a sperm cell or an egg cell or both.
What that means is the new human being that's going to be formed from the union of the sperm and the egg is going to have that genetic information in every single cell of their body, and it did not come from God. You know, we covered that at the Assault on Our DNA conference, and of course, Kevin's been very involved in rebuking the kind of criticism that Dr. Latipo has received from making such an audacious statement, that it really is a possibility that the sperm and egg can be involved here.
So just take a listen to Kevin as he responds to some of that criticism. You want to push back on an anti-vaxxer? Well, push back on me, Mr. Tedros Ghebreyesus. It's time to be more aggressive in pushing back on anti-vaxxers. I'm your worst nightmare anti-vaxxer. I'm a retired chiropractor with extensive knowledge on the immune system. I've never taken a shot called a vaccine in my life, and I never will. Because vaccines work.
You state that vaccines work. Well, vaccines work at one thing, and that is creating serum antibodies inside the body that cannot and will not protect you against becoming infected, nor will they stop disease symptoms from spreading. Even Dr. Fauci admitted that. The antibodies created by your beloved shots are supposed to lessen a person's experience with the disease symptoms when they do get infected. Well, that idea would work if the antibodies were created against the whole organism.
But that's not what your shots do. They create very specific antibodies against small proteins on the viruses that constantly change. So your immune system gets trained to look for what was injected, not what actually circulates through the population. So there is zero protection. But it's even worse than that.
You want people to get more shots to boost levels of dangerous antibodies that can kick off the complement cascade, create autoimmune conditions affecting the nervous system, the vascular system, and the heart musculature that can and will result in sudden and unexpected death in some people. So, yeah, your vaccines work. They work at killing and maiming, not protecting. I'd be happy to openly debate with you or any other expert on these issues. Anytime, anywhere.
I'm Kevin Stillwagon. You can find me on Substack or Rumble. By the way, you better call your buddy Bill Gates and ask for money, because President Trump is going to defund you just like the last time. Have a good day. Well, we have to have a good chuckle about that. And we appreciate you, Kevin. I know it takes a lot to go out and put your name out there and make a bold statement like you do. And I know you have a lot more to add to that. So we're going to let you get started. Yeah.
Well, thanks for playing that. And I'll never hear from anybody because they know that I'm speaking the truth. And the problem is people are falling for a very convincing lie. And the lie has been with us since the inception of this idea called a vaccine.
¶ Historical Context of Vaccination
It all started literally 1,500 years ago with a process called variolation, where the Chinese were taking scabs from smallpox, and they're grinding these things up and putting them in a straw and blowing them into people's nostrils so that they could get infected with smallpox, which actually made sense because you were allowing the entire organism to traverse the epithelial barrier, and your immune system got to experience the whole thing, all of that organism.
So, you know, science, again, is saying that there's power in antibodies and there definitely is power in antibodies. And I'll give you a really good example. If you're bitten by a rattlesnake, what's going to save your life? An injection of rattlesnake antivenom, which is antibodies. But where did they get those antibodies? They got them from an animal that was subjected to the rattlesnake venom.
All of it, 100% of it, without diluting it, without changing it, that's where the powerful antibodies come from. And so when those are injected into a person that could die from a rattlesnake bite, yeah, it can be lifesaving. But where the science got all mixed up was they thought, well, hey, if we just inject parts of organisms into people, then we can get antibodies that will protect them when they do get infected.
Well, that idea sounds good on paper, But I've already gone through the mechanisms of why it doesn't work. And the most simple to understand is the fact that you're targeting your immune system to one thing. Just one little piece of it is what you're doing. And it's going to focus your immune system on the wrong thing, not what's actually out there. So people ask me all the time, well, why don't they just inject the whole thing?
Well, they can't, because if they do, then it's going to provoke the illness that they're going to try to prevent. And then they asked me, well, why don't they just use something that you can put in a mist or in a spray or, you know, something that you can swallow? And then it will go through the mucosal barrier. Well, they tried that, too, but that's got all kinds of problems. And the most recent one that comes to mind is the oral polio.
Vaccine that was administered to children all over Africa and all over India. And look what happened. A lot of those children got paralyzed. Why? Because they were exposed to the actual organism in high amounts. We really got to think about what we're doing with this idea called, you know, vaccination.
And, you know, the biggest problem is people are afraid of experiencing natural, of experiencing natural infections, you know, they'll say things like, well, if I, if I don't give my child the measles vaccine, then they could develop encephalitis and get brain damage, you see. Or if, if they don't give them the polio vaccine, then they're going to end up getting paralyzed.
Well, let's just take polio, for example. If you go to either the CDC or the WHO show and you look up the pathophysiology of polio and see how it progresses in the body, you will see that 70% of polio infections, and I mean a real infection, the virus is actually in you. 70% of those are completely asymptomatic. 25% are going to have symptoms of the common cold.
About 4% are going to have what's called a temporary flaccid paralysis, which is pretty scary, but it will go away all on its own without even any treatment. And it's less than 1% of the population that will experience the long lasting paralysis that everyone's afraid of. And who does that happen to? It happens to children that are severely malnourished or have immunosuppression. And those are the children that should not receive a vaccine anyway. Why?
Because their immune systems can't handle it. It will provoke the actual illness. So what we should be doing is helping the people that are immunosuppressed and malnourished help them to get stronger so that they can look like the rest of us and be able to resist the infection in a natural way. That's what we should be doing. But what are we doing? We're doing it all backwards. We're injecting the healthy population, and we still are.
We're injecting the healthy population and destroying their natural immunity, trying to protect the weak ones. Doesn't make any sense. I can't follow that up with anything better than what he said. Other than that, two things. One is that I think Dr. Joseph Latipo should be the nomination for the Surgeon General of the United States. He obviously demonstrates a much better approach to the whole vaccine argument and discussion.
The other thing is, if you remember back at that TED Talk when Bill Gates stated that if we vaccinate properly, we can reduce the world's population by 15%. And he was telling the truth. They can reduce the world's population by more than 15%. They've been doing this for a while. Going back to people being scared about not being vaccinated, part of that goes back to the conditioning that they've been going through for the last 30 years, and how medicine has conditioned them.
We're the only, what, us in the Netherlands are the only country that advertises big pharma, right? No, it's New Zealand. New Zealand, New Zealand. So we're the only two countries, and they're trying to just sit there and program people and believing that all these medications are good for them.
And being chiropractors, all three of us, and we've been chiropractors for a long time, and kevin you come from a a very a long line of chiropractors in your family, We know all along that we're fighting the big giant there to Goliath. I mean, we're, we're there trying to speak the truth about health and about how, how you are healthy and that you can trust your immune system. And this is what you do to boost your immune system.
But people, people are just conditioned to accept everything medicine throws out there like eating at five o'clock. Oh yeah. Eating at five o'clock is going to lower your, you know, your chance of glucose intolerance. Oh, really? I'm going to go to Europe and have dinner at 10. How about that? It just doesn't make sense. But we know that we have this battle and it's frustrating for us to have this knowledge in our heads and in our hearts because this is something that's here.
I've been anti-vax since I've been in chiropractic school. And I had a personal story to share with my son. And he had an adverse response to a DDT, his second DBT, which I did not want to get. But my wife at the time wanted to get the vaccine. We were up with him. He was 100, 405 degree fever for like two nights. He had this adverse reaction. So the next time we go back to the doctor and she's saying, well, it's time for another one.
And I said, no, no, no, we're not vaccinating him anymore. And she goes, why not? I said, because he had an adverse response. And if you read the inset to your vaccine, you'll read there if there's any adverse reaction that they should not be vaccinated again. And she's like, well, have you ever seen someone with pertussis? And I'm like, no, it doesn't exist. And this is back in 1996. It doesn't exist. The pertussis, it doesn't exist in the United States.
Well, she goes, I have. I said, where did you have this exposure? She said, I did my residency in Brooklyn Hospital. I said, well, you get a lot of immigrants there, so I can understand that possibly happened. She goes, and I got pertussis. I said, can I ask you a question? Were you vaccinated? She goes, yes. You just proved my point. It doesn't work. I'm not sticking that in my child. I know Dr. Dennis has mentioned, you know, what Bill Gates has said before in this clip.
And of course, trying to find that is going to be difficult for you because you're going to find page after page of fact checking. And so I'm just going to show you the video and you decide for yourself. So let's look at each one of these and see how we can get this down to zero. Probably one of these numbers is going to have to get pretty near to zero. That's back from high school algebra. But let's take a look. First, we've got population.
Now, the world today has 6.8 billion people. That's headed up to about 9 billion. Now, if we do a really great job on new vaccines, health care. Reproductive health services, we could lower that by perhaps 10 or 15 percent. So I'm going to try and speed it up a little bit here. But the bottom line is this fight that Kevin is on is the same battle that we are in as well. And the good news is, is that there's really some very positive things happening.
This was, again, a whole bunch of scientists, even Peter McCullough was in on this one here, calling for a global moratorium for mRNA injections. So this is not something that is somehow being hidden in some kind of, you know, dark corner. Unfortunately, as we know, the media is not going to cover this, and this video will never make it to YouTube.
So there really is a censorship going on here, you know. But the other thing is, I like to use this slide to show you that the DNA of the human being has been the target of a group of people for many more than 30 years. And you can see how far back this really goes. So there is a group of people that's called transhumanism. They are purposely, willingly trying to get humanity to the next evolutionary step. And then the other thing is, is that when these vaccines rolled out,
we immediately saw a death rate. And these are 18 to 64. We saw that go up. We saw that mirrored also with Dr. James Thorpe talking about how the deaths in the womb, the women who are pregnant, the deaths went up within 10 weeks, went up 38%. So you can see that this death rate is explaining that, hey, nobody's explaining why all of a sudden we're seeing these unprecedented numbers. This is a little clip video I'm going to play here. What we're seeing here is a pattern repeated across countries.
Excessive deaths are striking down people in the prime of life. Excess deaths in England alone are higher than at any time. Deaths in this country running at levels we've never seen before outside of war. I've seen the very raw figures and they are quite worried. 63,000 excess deaths in England and Wales in the last 12 months. 17% higher than the historical average. People are still dying and we don't know why. Is evidence mounting regarding the true origin of these excess deaths?
People are dying off inexplicably. The evidence is beyond reasonable doubt that the vaccine is causing more deaths than the virus itself. Once the injection rollout started, there was a spike in deaths. In 2021, the death rate was actually lower. COVID deaths are going down. Excess deaths are going up. As soon as the vaccine became compulsory, suddenly we have this increase. January 2022, there have been more than 100,000 excess deaths in the UK. Dr.
Rencourt, he's a former professor of physics. He gathered two or three other academics who are in the field of medicine and epidemiology, and they prove beyond reasonable doubt. In more than half the countries in the world, there is no excess mortality until the vaccines are rolled out. There are studies from the Netherlands, Germany, and the whole world. Each showing that the highest mortality after vaccination was seen in the most
heavily vaccinated regions. Including Australia. Fatality in this country has been running at 15% and even higher than on average. And Australia is a good material for us because... Australia had almost no COVID when vaccines were first introduced, making them the perfect control group. There was only 1,000 cases of COVID in South Australia, but you'd had a mass vaccine rollout and you were suffering vaccine harms and excess deaths.
In the first four months of 2022, death from all respiratory diseases, the flu, pneumonia and COVID taken together, are still at normal levels. Yet deaths from cardiac and pulmonary events are up 11% and unexplained deaths are up 13%. You have to be really stupid to not see the correlation. This excess death started and correlates with the vaccine programme. Print the graph. It screams out that people are dying off inexplicably.
What rational person resists asking questions about a statistic like that? During the pandemic, we were told that every single death that happened was a world-ending event. At the start of the pandemic, it was one. Death was too many. Tragic news yesterday of the death of a 38-year-old woman. Breaks your heart, doesn't it? But now we have literally thousands of people dying around the world.
Tens of thousands of people are dying in an unexplained way, yet we're not even asking questions about why. And we hear nothing. What is taking place is extraordinary and something needs to be done and needs to be done urgently. So I'm going to clip it right there. You can see what's happening, but this is what I say to people all the time. If you are dealing with 2021, when they rolled out the vaccine. Remember now we were on the third variant.
Okay. So now we're on the Omicron variant approximately, which was 10 times less deadly. We would expect that there'd be 10 times less people dying. but they also rolled out their solution in 2021. How did you get more dead people? How can you come up with a solution and a less virulent, you know, virus, and you still killed more people? These are irrefutable facts. So when Kevin gets up here and says that this is doing harm, we can see the proof is in the pudding.
There are more dead people and they're all over the world. Yeah, and what's most amazing to me, Kevin, is that Trump will still say to this day that Operation Warp Speed was a huge success and saved millions of lives. That is an abject lie. And he's going to have to admit that he made a mistake eventually. I'm hopeful that RFK Jr. Is going to help him over the hump on that. But I mean, the video is very clear.
All you got to do is take a look at countries that had very little vaccine administration and they did not have excess mortality. And I'm not talking from COVID. I'm talking from anything. There was no excess mortality. But you take a look at areas of this country, just this country, that were heavily vaccinated. There is a definite increase in all-cause mortality. Now, I know that's just a temporal association, but it's something that you absolutely cannot ignore.
You know and there's some other shots i can pop these in but you know when it comes to who did the worst in the world with covid we were number one right but then they finally admit well that's just because we were cooking the books with all of the a different incentives that we were giving you know for a covid diagnosis they come up with their reasons right so then they go well let's look at excess
deaths there's only six countries in the world that did worse than us i don't listen to last place. Americans have to start to learn that we're 46 in the world right now for life expectancy. I don't listen to 46th place. If America scored 46th place in the Olympics... We would have spent money. People would have maybe got fired. New programs would have been started. The fact that we're 46th place in the world, third world communist countries are more healthy than we are. This is the truth.
You know, the only thing I can say is that when Trump appointed RFK, who would certainly tell him to his face that Operation Warp Speed was a complete nightmare. And so to me, there is some repentance in the fact that he did actually appoint him. And I guess I'll throw that back to you, Kevin. Yeah, there's got to be a reckoning of truth here. And that's what we're doing today. We are helping people see through the lies. And the weapon that they use is fear.
And they're going to continue to use that weapon. You know, they will they will try to convince people that, oh, my gosh, look, there's this new deadly disease. And if you come in contact with it, you'll die. And the only solution to that is going to be this, you know, shot that we're going to call a vaccine. So we can throw our scare tactic out there, too, like we just did in this video and say, look, if you get this shot, you have a chance of dying because there's excess all course mortality.
That's a fear tactic too So both of us are playing the fear game. So what we have to do, and this is a really, really hard job, we have to help people see through the lie. And what's the lie? The lie is that, and it's a very believable lie, look, all you got to do is put this in you and it will protect you. And we've already gone through the mechanisms of why that does not work, why that doesn't make any sense to do that.
And when people as consumers, consumers of shots called vaccines, when the people finally get that, they finally see through it, then they're not going to put this stuff into their children anymore. And that childhood vaccine schedule is just kind of going to go away because people aren't going to want to subject their children to that, nor are they going to want to subject themselves to it whenever the next scary disease comes along, whatever that is.
¶ The Fight for Truth and Immunity
And always know that any communicable disease, I don't care what it is, they are all treatable. They are all manageable. All you got to do is help your immune system and give the body what God designed it to work with. We have it in nature. It's all there. All we got to do is use it. Those are very good points, Dr. Kevin Stillwagon. I agree with you. Trump, why hasn't he recanted his statement? That's a very good question. And that is one of my largest concerns about this.
Even though he appointed Bobby, Bobby can be put off in a corner and not be very effective somewhere. When we looked at that last video, and they were showing the graph of the epidemiology of when the vaccines came out, and then the mortality rate went up. If you go back, and you can go search this for yourself, folks, Go back and look up the epidemiology of the polio vaccine. And you watch polio, the graph was coming down as far as a disease in the world.
When they introduced the vaccine, polio went back up. And this happened for a number of years after the vaccine was introduced. And now you have Bill Gates out there with his vaccine program. And he's out there vaccinating people in these countries that haven't had vaccinations. And all of a sudden, all these diseases are popping up. Yeah. I get a feed on my Twitter asking that should Trump work with Bill Gates and should we stop Bill Gates from vaccinating the beef and all this other stuff?
I think Bill Gates should be thrown in jail for what he's doing. I don't believe he has a right to do what he's doing, nor does he have the science or the background to do what he's doing. And just because he has a lot of money and then he can spread around and go and spread his vaccines, don't forget what he said in the TED Talk. If we vaccinate properly, we can reduce the population by 15%. Those are his words out of his mouth.
I'm going to drop it to Kevin, but I have to say, we're not going to hear apology from Trump. That is one of his character flaws. And I can't remember him ever doing that. And we'll see. We just, Trump is not the salvation for this country. It's God. It's truth. And truth is always true, no matter who tells it to you, including Trump or whoever else you think doesn't have any truth.
So we try and get to the truth on this show and we follow the truth because we know that's what God would do, that he is that truth. And none of us are perfect carriers of that truth, even our podcast, you know, but we will try if we make a mistake to apologize for it, but we're doing the best we can. Go ahead, Kevin. I know you've got some final points you want to make.
Yeah, well, you know, you always got to remember that Trump's a politician and he is going to say whatever he thinks the people want to hear. He will continue with that. And until the mindset of America changes, he's going to stick with that lie. So the job is ours. We have to start this from the grassroots coming up. We got to educate people and it's got to start young. I mean, even in the classroom, I mean, it gets as basic as what I'm about to say right now.
You know, when kids learn about evolution, what are they taught? This is a theory. We can't prove it. The same thing needs to be taught about health and disease. You know, the germ theory, that's a theory. That's all it is. There is an association with things called germs and disease, but the germ is absolutely not the cause of the disease.
So, I mean, if we just start young and educate people and teach people not to be afraid of each other when they have a communicable disease, I think this whole country is going to be a lot better off. And, you know, RFK Jr. May be the starting point for that. We'll see. It's, you know, it's politics. You're absolutely correct there, Dr. Stillwagon. I mean, we do have to understand that Trump is a politician or has become a politician.
We should say, right, he was a businessman, right? Now he's a politician. I do hope that his appointments come and do make a difference in Washington. I am hopeful of that. The other day I sent you guys this because this was something that was put out by Dr. Simon Goddard. He said the daily reminder that none of the vaccines on the childhood schedule has been tested against a placebo in a blinded RCT.
Which is a randomized controlled trial, which is the gold standard in research with clinically distinct endpoints. So to follow up on that point, I'm going to hold up this book. And I encourage everyone out there who's concerned or wants to follow up on vaccinations and what is true and what's not true. This book will give you the points and will show you that none of the vaccines on the childhood schedule were actually tested against a placebo.
There's a whole chart here on page 72 through 75 that shows all the vaccines and their ingredients. They were never tested against a placebo. A true placebo is an inert placebo. Object or solution that cannot create a response. The vaccines are tested against either the old version of the vaccine or another vaccine. Well, the problem with that is that the old version of vaccine or the other vaccine also has adverse events.
So if you're testing a new vaccine against an old vaccine and they both have adverse events, it lowers the percentage of adverse events and it makes the new vaccine appear safe. And it's not. What they really need to do is a three-leg trial where you have the old vaccine, you have the new vaccine, and then you have the placebo group with the saline solution. And I guarantee you, if they ever did that, vaccines would not be legal because they all have side effects.
Yeah, I agree with you. They do all have side effects. But there's one more step to that. It says there was no clinical endpoint. And that's absolutely true. What was their endpoint? And this is the lie. Again, what was the endpoint? Does it make antibodies? Yeah, it makes antibodies. Of course it does. That's what your immune system will do. It will make antibodies. But does it actually clinically prevent the disease that you're being injected against? The answer is no, it doesn't.
And if they let those trials run long enough, they will clearly see that, clearly. That's the question I got for Dr. Peter Hotez. He says, oh, these anti-vaxxers, they're making people vaccine hesitant. And that's why incidence of measles is going up. Well, my question for Peter Hotez is, why is it going up in the people that got vaccinated? You know, people that aren't supposed to get the measles. Right. It doesn't work. Never has worked.
You know, the old saying there, Kev, science doesn't say anything. Scientists do, right? It's the interpretation of the data and your philosophy behind the interpretation. You can have all this data and say, oh, look, it's a bird. It's a plane. No, it's not. It's what you're saying and your interpretation of the data. And like he said, well, measles is going up. Sure.
In the vaccinated population, measles is going up because you're injecting them with this little sort of thing that looks like measles. Yeah, exactly. Well, guys, as we wrap this up, what's your closing statements here? And then I'll, of course, make mine as well. Well, I would just like to close in saying that I, you know, Dr. Stilweg and I were talking the other day and just hope that people will at least look and search out for the truth. Don't believe, don't believe us. Go look.
That's what I told you. Go get that book. That book is written by a bunch of medical doctors in Israel that wouldn't put their name on that book because they didn't want to be blackballed in the community. That book has everything you need to know Vaccination Go look at the research Go look at the epidemiological studies Of when vaccine was introduced And what happened to the disease itself.
And trust yourself, trust your body. You know, there's a verse, Jeremiah 17, 5, that says, curse to those who trust in man. You know, Jesus never trusted man. He always asked questions because he knew the heart is deceptive. Yeah, so this whole thing started with, you know, your body is a temple. And, you know, my message is don't desecrate the temple.
Pay attention to what you put in it. You know, foods that we eat, I mean, our bodies can deal with that because we can eliminate it through, you know, various methods. But when you directly inject something into your bloodstream, that's a whole nother thing. Think about that. Just think about it. Well, and you could see we've got the good guys on today and it's hard to follow up. But I have to say that, you know, don't put your trust in me and Dr.
Dennis, but I don't know. Kevin did really good today. You could see, has us stuck together. And so we want to thank you, Kevin, for being one of our go-to sources for some real truth, being able to look into these deeper issues and get into the scientific part.
Because like you say, you're ready to debate anybody. anybody this this vaccine vaccine the vaccine narrative doesn't work especially not the way this is and this wasn't a vaccine to begin with they they changed the rules they changed everything and so then i'll just echo the same thing to dennis said trust in the lord with all your heart and lean not unto your own understanding including fauci understanding but in all your ways acknowledge him and he will illuminate and light your paths.
So I hope that you guys are all lit today. And thank you so much again, Kevin, for sharing. And you're welcome to come on anytime. God bless you guys. Thank you.
