It's not a bird It's not a plane It's superhero sla. It's a weekly podcast where we talk about everything that's great Like a TV superheroes It's superheroes yeah Hello everyone and welcome to superhero Slate this show where we run down the latest superhero entertainment news. We love TV movies and superheroes so let's talk it all out. My name is Chris and my name is Mike and that was a bad time to take a drink.
I realized this after the fact but this week we have some Superman news from cCXP previously known as comicon Brazil uh an invincible season three trailer, Mike I don't know you have you caught up with season two yet uh on that uh yeah I'm all I'm all caught up with the show People will be happy uh the season three is coming out relatively soon. We'll talk about that more later in uh we both have seen creature commandos so we're going to do a like a I guess I could bump it to the end.
I had it in the middle here. We're going to up creature commandos to the end of the show, but we're going to do a full review in the first two episodes. out the gate. So that is that is the show, Mike, and you actually, so people are like, oh, well, what about the other showkeleton? We've not had a chance here in my house to watchkeleton and Crew with it being, you know, obviously like 17 degrees most of the week here. It's been kind of kind of rough.
My wife's also a teacher, so she's dealing with sick kids, like six of them were out on Friday. And I'm like, you can just keep your disease somewhere else while I don't get sick, right? Because nothing's worse Mike, you know, than having two sick people in the house at the same time with that. But you you were able to to watch Star Wars skeleton crew this weekend. I'm interested in your opinion because I feel like you forgot it was coming out most of the time we kept talking about it.
Yeah, and uh I saw the hype online because I caught it like the day after it aired or at least the very first episodes. So I I'll keep it uh spoiler free for you, Chris you haven't had a chance to see it yet. It's definitely one of those things where you have to kind of watch both episodes to get a full idea of what the show is going to be. First episode is a little little slow, a little soft, a lot of, you know, world building, at least on the specific world that you start off, out on.
And it's it's very kid heavy. So it was not the most favorite thing of my wife, who uh has a very low tolerance for child actors. But once the second episode kicks up and everyone's kind of feeling a little bit more like comfortable in their costumes and sets and everything, I I start to enjoy it a lot more. So the writing still on the wall. I feel like any time I watch a Star Wars show now, unless it's like the Mandalorian, at least I kind of know it's kind of proven itself slightly.
I mean, not to mention the last season, but it was satisfactory so far. No, I don't know Chris, if you've ever noticed this, and I don't know if there's like some sort of mantra written on the wall in the writer's room for every Star Wars show, but I hate the way every episode ends on a Star Wars TV show.
Like they I feel like they think they're ending their show on a cliffhanger when really it just feels like they're ending every episode almost like on like an act break or a commercial break in a way. So it's like I never feel like I've watched a a satisfying episode of television. It feels like I've just been like somebody just hit pause and said come back in a week. And I've noticed that with a lot of other Star Wars TV shows and I want to know if anyone else feels the sway out there.
Like if you want to now, if you want to think of like a cliffhanger, which it's kind of pointless in a way because it's Netflix and you can binge it all, mostly unless they break it into chunks. But stranger Things has always been really, really good at leaving their episodes on like cliffh hangers in my opinion, it's like, oh yeah, I can't wait. I'm so excited for next week. Well, what's happen? I think you I just don't anyone else has experienced that.
Well, I I think that goes to tell you one thing and I think this is something, you know, you I would even say you kind of feel in the Marvel shows a little bit previously. Disney is not Disney not Disney, but like Star Wars is not set up with a television crew, right? They're not they're not making TV like TV is made. The Duffer Brothers worked on television before they went and did stranger Things. So they know how television works, right? That's how you you write the episodes.
You're not writing a long eight hour movie. I mean, you kind of are, but like you write each episode as television things. And Star Wars you know, Marvel has realized the wrongs and they we are going to see the first real test of that come daredevil, right? In um March or April, March or April, um with their new setup. So I think Star Wars has not um had a chance to adapt to a television uh studio model for their shows yet, right?
Um Short, short of, I would say, um, you know, Dayon's work, I guess, on the clonears a little bit, but you know, animation is a little different, you know, 22 minute episodes and whatnot. But, you know, I I think, you know, the MandalLorean, I remember the first episode of the Mand DeLore when you brought up. Like that one felt kind of like I had a cliffhanger, right, where you meet the the child for the first time, like at the end of it, you're like, oh, what is this? What is the mystery?
There was like, and that's like an iconic shot, too, where I you just see the little hand sticking up from the from the floating bassinet. Yeah. So I I think Star Wars um from their live action standpoint has not adopted the TV uh, I guess mode the writing rooms, the the production, uh the storytelling yet. um but I would say, um if I was um ab betting man, Mike, I would say the Reading is on the wall for Star Wars to, if they're going to keep making shows like this to adapt to that.
Otherwise, they're probably not going to ever get above, uh, as the kids would say today mid in their shows, right? at the end of the day. With it. I I mean, that's just my take. I think I think that's what you fit the down like you broughtanger of Things. Well, it was written by TV people, Star Wars, not written by TV or not written and and done by TV done by a film studio at the end of the day. So, um prominently a film studio. So I think is that. So so I'm excited to watch it.
Like so I've seen everything and they come out on Monday nights, I believe. It came out last Monday night I was looking, I was like oh, Monday night it's nine. So hopefully maybe maybe tonight I can I can after we get done recording here and edit this, I can I can pop the first episode on maybe while we're we're eating dinner along
the way. we got to do couch this summer and um like at like a section living room and it's like kind of like a cream white color and my like my entire I'm still steadfast. I'm like, I can't eat dinner on this white couch, Mike. I'm like, I can't eat dinner and watch television on the same because I will I will spill something on this couch and I'm like, I don't want to do that yet. So maybe maybe get it a couple weeks and it'll they'll break it in for that.
But um, yeah, so you so you would you would recommend, you know, right now people watch both episodes that are out um to to see if they're going to dive into the rest of it. Yeah, give it give it a shot. It's it's different enough to where if maybe you didn't like the last Star Wars thing, maybe this will peak your interest. Awesome. Awesome awesome awesome.
uh let's let's get into the news. um we we uh we were talking earlier we we've got some some tops to go over, but the first one Mike is invincible season three. This was leaked earlier in the week and then officially dropped, I think on Saturday from Amazon Prime. I believe maybe even at CCXP. I don't I don't want to say that and get it wrong, but uh the season three trailer for this has coming out.
It's coming in February 2025 AMs on prime and will be released weekly after uh the initial three episode launch drop. So I don't know if they I think they were released weekly before, right last season? um well, because they had a break in the middle of it as well. So, um but for people who may not have read the books, this is a very important uh turning point in the Invincible comic series. Mike, you might have picked up from the trailer. He gets a different suit.
He becomes like the dark black and blue look that people may remember probably more from the later Invincible series, comic book-wise. Yeah, this this show is really rounded out amazingly well. There's a lot of different characters and storylines. I feel like the stories are taken very thoughtfully and seriously.
and you know, who who knows you give the credit to uh uh was it Robert Kirkman right writing the uh for a good writing a good sort of a big good with, but now there's executing it really well and um I'm glad to see that it's not going to be broken into pieces the season. You'll just be able to watch it straight through, you know, week by week. So I'm excited. Yeah, and it feels like the, you know, we we talked about animation.
They usually make um there was the first season they made it came out and there was like a long wait for season two. They even poked fun at it right along the way. and I think they did season two and three back to back. So my assumption is they're probably going to be trying to get into a cadence of doing these yearly to to wrap out the whole story because Invincible as a comic series is done, so they know where the story kind of starts and goes throughout this.
One of the other introductions into this, Mike, and this might be a spoiler for people who don't know, but it is in the trailer. Com up is the um it's the mini omni man, if you will, uh Omni man, Omni boy, uh, right? And he's a little little purple kid, uh, being raised. So uh for those who I know, he is the uh younger half brother of Mark Grayson. um, right? That's his name, I believe.
So it's going to be interesting seeing this dynamic of, you know, uh him becoming, you know, invincibles as a whole in house so has like a superpowered younger brother to watch along the way with us. So uh I'm you know, I I I amm self-amiliar I've read the comic books. I've not really watched a show, but this has kind of given me like I guess that um a little injection to watch the show.
I'm like, oh, we're getting to the good stuff, the stuff I remember reading more uh because it was later in the series. So I'm like, oh, this might give me an injection to go through and and get through seasons one and two along the way for that. But um yeah, that link is in the the show notes. people want to check it out.
Mike anything else oninvincible. seems to be a pretty big pop. I know that that a live action movie like do you think they're still going to come out with the live action movie after the animated stuff gets done? I mean, weirdly, I kind of hope so. just uh I'd like to see this on the big screen in some in some aspects. What now, um my question would be, you know, because this is going to be a multiseason show, like what do you put in the movies? Is it like the first season?
Like how do you condense such a a long, you know, telling story into just like, oh, I' ready to watch it like two hours, right? Like do they do multiple, you know, movies? Do they try to, you know, try to split it up in like each like did they hear each season is a different movie kind of thing or how what I mean, I don't know.
I mean, if you had any ideas, it was going to ask you, you don't have to have any ideas right now, but I but like this is such a long story I don't think one movie is going to tell the whole story so I hope that first movie does well so they're like yeah we'll kick off with the second one right well at least if I recall in the first in the first season of Invincible, there's a lot of just like watching um
invincible kind of cut his teeth, you know, and kind of figure out how his powers and how to be a superhero. Like you can condense probably at least five episodes down to a montage, you know, in a way, not saying those episodes aren't worthwhile, but oh, yeah, montages will get you get you pretty far. Yeah, absolutely. And it's really it's you know, the the main quote unquote vill end of the first season is coming found that his dad is uh, you know, the bad guy, uh really at the end of the day.
So maybe maybe they do the first season and and and knock that out. uh moving on to other shows, uh you know, this is this is DC News. I don't know if you know this, but uh Superman and Lois uh it ended its show. uh the series concluded with his fourth season this week. They did know they were going into the fourth season. I think it's like 10 episodes.
It's a very abbreviated season, but they did not it was the end so it is actually has a definitive written end and I think it's making it the first Superman series to tell a complete story. And I say it's own complete story in live action. So they were able to do, you know, we met Superman actually a Supergirl long time ago and then he got his own show after a crisis of Innocent earth, and they had wrapped up with a season uh serious finale here. So I think that's pretty cool.
Have I've never watched a show, but I did watch a lot of clips from this last season because it was a very much uh at the end, I think of season three. It was Superman versus Doomsday and they had like a live action. Doomsday it looked really comic accurate. A lot of people were happy with that. Have you followed any of this news or or I don't think you'd watched any of the show yourself, but no, whatever the show premieres or has a season finale, it would, you know, briefly crop up in my feeds.
So uh that's kind of how I've caught up with the show. So since the show's ending, uh I've seen a lot more clips. Like I've already seen the last couple um I've seen like the last couple scenes already, just people are reacting to it, putting it up online. So I'm I'm excited I'm glad for people that got to watch this show and have like a nice round ending to it. That's really, really nice. And um it's also weird.
This is like officially the end of the arro verse that started a dozen a dozen years ago. I looked it up while we were chatting which is kind of crazy that this had this long tail that lasted this long. Yeah, I think I mean, it was like what, 10, 10 or 11 shows spun out of arrow to create the the arrow verse, the CWs shows along the way um some are you know, obviously arrow, the Flash, uh supergirls
superman Lois black lightning um had some pretty good good runs. but then there was like Naomi, I think was one of them they tried to do who was like a a real person living in there and uh like in the superhero world stuff like that. So it had a lot of spinooffs and did really well. But yeah, this is we're going to say this is also the end of the CW slash arrover and and that's just wild to think about, right?
That Greg Burlanti's uh little little project about an archer has come has come to an end on it like this. So I I'm looking forward to a couple of months people doing the the Averse box sets, like get the entire Aroverse complete box set of every show kind of thing. So we'll see if they come up with that along the way. Moving on to this into regular super and this is DCU Superman.
CCXP is this week. um so I think James got I don't know if he's there or if he's not there, but uh there were some reports that that Superman, the movie is currently undergoing reshoots. Well, it's very early for a movie to go undergo proper reshoots. So James Gunn has on uh what what's what's his threads his his favorite social media platform, as I always say, uh where he's confirmed that though these aren't really reshoots or just pickups and other non-story beats that they're filming.
So um that's yeah, very normal movie stuff. Yeah. uh I feel like we we have this conversation on the show all the time where the Internet uh flares up like a bad infection when it hears uh reshoots but then it's like no, these are the normal scheduled ones. uh, you know, these this isn't like a brave new world type of deal. Well exactly. And even in brave new worlds that's still not bad news because guess what?
That means the studio is trying to make things better rather than like we'll just fix it all in CGI use what bad things we have, right? reshoots means they're actively trying to do stuff. And again, pick up shots like, you know, close-up city shots, establishing shots. Like, I guess if if it's attached to such a high profile project, a Superman, right?
Like we always talk about how much weight is literally on this movie to kick off and, you know, um W Brothers in DCUs, you know, in 2025, like, of course, it's going to be a spin to where it sounds bad or or something like that. But um absolutely normal stuff. They probably have just they wrapped all over the summer. They've still gotten until July to do stuff, so we'll probably hear a couple more things as they go back and do some more shots.
um But I've got some links in the shows for people who are interested from CCXP. They've actually had a like a merch shop uh down there with official merchandise, um and some of the first superman official merchandise we have here shows a silhouette of superman flying. So it looks like he's doing the traditional um comic book pose, Mike uh one arm forward, other arm backed kind of like a flying punch, if you will, um on the mug here and it uses and we're going to talk about this color.
Obviously Superman's red uh yellow and occasional blue, but they're using this blue to dark blue light blue gradient with the Superman S on this mug as well, right? for the silhouette. And we're going to talk about more than in seconds. So if you want to check out some sweet drinkwear, click on our first show note.
But there are other shirts and pens merchandise showcasing what appears to be the new Superman S in a Superman like seven like the Christopher Reese Superman like extruded style with like a it's like a chrome finish to it, Mike? How would is that how you describe this? a little bit? Yeah, I think that's fair. Look metal stamp um do you yeah I'm looking at the uh I'm looking at the next link as well because we' they show off um enamel pins and that logo is kind of also extruded as well as a pin.
It doesn't look well as a pin, does it with that back like how it's kind of like offset a little bit? I'm like, oh, the other ones are much cleaner than this weird like empty space kind of logo where it's supposed to have like a 3D effect. Now, my question is I I think it's an homage to the original Superman, right?
You know, uh new beginnings, new Superman, uh James is obviously very inspired uh by the older stuff, probably more than the newer Superman, but this really interesting to pull this blue gradient logo forward with this style, uh whenever we've not seen it on anything. So I'm interested to see if it comes into play in the movies or if it's just more of a hey, if you're not down with the yellow and red wearing the shield chest.
We've got something a little more not not casual, what's looking for a little more low key, uh where for people. along the way. I expect to see this more uh coming up in in uh Wals in your local Walmart section, Mike, when you go get your graphic teas uh along the way. So uh check out those notes here. Mike anything else on that because the next topic is just funny to me. um and I think you think you might get a kick out of let's breeze on let's breeze on through this uh insanity here.
I'm going to be honest before we should I thought Comic- CCXP Comic com would give me more news and I was like very excited to wait until Sunday to do the show notes and literally nothing's come out of it yet here at you know 5:30 PM Eastern time. So I'm like, well, I guess this was just a very hyped event that we didn't see much of. So uh maybe maybe they'll have more on Monday or something like that. um but we will we will definitely report back to that next week.
But moving on, uh the movie that just won't die, the the uh just suicide squad, not the suicide squad, uh from David Ayer. He is out here campaigning for his A cut to be released from Warner Brothers. He has a Twitter thread or I guess X thread now. um where he's got like it looks like a fan poster. He he made you know suicide Squad David A suicide squad the Aear cut and uh with like a fake date and everything like that. And he's like, I hope my real film can be shared one day.
I appreciate they continue support and interest. He's not being malicious or aggressive, but I think, you know, he's just like, you know, if you don't like what you saw the first time, maybe you'll like my version, uh kind of thing. you got to move on.
I mean, I I I am a a creative working professional nowhere near the level of directing feature films, but I've worked on creative projects in the past where, you know, you get notes back, you you you hand it off to somebody else and it gets chopped up and changed totally different.
I mean, just uh just move on. just let it let it go by and also like I it's hilarious that the date at the bottom is like the worst Photoshop thing I've ever seen and it's like looks like somebody like a clipping from like a magazine to put that five after the 2024. Yeah, so I was like, well, what's he what's he been doing doing lately? because he's getting headlines out of this. I'll be honest with him, the Hollywood reporter variety. They're all covering these this quote unquote news.
So anytime he post something, he's getting some coverage. So good for him. But I did notice, you know, he hasn't done a lot of work since he was what he Netflix is bright, uh otherwise known as Orcop, if you remember with Will Smith and he he had the work that. um he also did movie in 2020 or he went talking about called the tax collector, which I did't watch, but um I've I've heard a lot of people talk about his movie the beekeeper this year that he directed.
Have you have you got that yet with Jason Statham? I I've heard of its uh meme status and so bad it's good. Yeah, I' I've only yeah I've heard people watch it and they're the actually, you know, it's not really about a beekeeper. It's more about an assassin. So he has got and he's got a movie coming up next year called Levin's trade uh, which also stars Jason Statham, so it sounds like he's got something going on there.
But he is getting worked, but um my my assumption is here why they haven't released this yet. Mike is there's probably some like if we put this on streaming if we put this anywhere someone can watch it, we're going to have to pay a lot more rights or pay people out and Warner Brothers right now. David dad's completely normal man, right? Just an average guy, not some, you know, CEO who, you know, taking everything.
Warner Brothers Brothers, he they're really cutting on back a lot of those shows on stream because they don't want to pay dividends residuals, right? They're like, we're going to take down C cartoon Network's website so we don't have to pay people to watch things for free kind of thing.
So it is my guess is they're probably not doing it number one they don't care, but number two if they put it out that they're going have to pay a lot more people residuals that they just don't want to do at the end of the day. So I would I would love to see hopefully, Mike, I'm going to be self-ishame to say it leaks on the Internet one day that we could just watch it and not have to do anything with it. But I would I would love to just kind of see it to see, is it that different?
Because I, you know, remember that and having a bad taste in my mouth. uh so so maybe we could maybe get that get it out one day, get the curiosity out. Shifting gears over to Marvel, uh dare Devil, uh Wilson Bethel, uh the actor who played Bull's eye as confirmed that the the upcoming uh daredevil show is set five years after the events of Daredevil season three, which was on Netflix.
and he quotes, uh and I quote, these characters who have all lived five years of life and all the twists and turns that you take in the meantime. So it means like we're not going to be picking up from them, you know, things will have probably changed status quowise jobs, life relationships, whatever we're in five years for all the characters before we catch up with them.
We'll probably get that do like flashbacks or something, but it is good to know like it's not just picking up five minutes after, you know, season three of daredevil along the way. Yeah. And that's a I feel like that's a storytelling trope I've seen before that I'm okay with I can't think of any examples off the top of my head, but I've seen it before, even without this complicated scenario of a Netflix show ending and then Disney picking it back up years later.
But you'll just be watching like any normal TV show that you've seen before and they might just feel like, oh, let's do a time jump in between seasons and then like the story is set up where, oh, we got to we got to roll back and see what we've missed over the last couple of years with these characters. oh, yeah, more humorous one. The last season ofarch and wreck, they did a time jump in between the second to last season and and last season. It was pretty uh funny.
So, uh, yeah, I'm fine with us. It'll be it'll be fun to see how we uh we die dive back into daredevil's Hell'sitchen. Yeah, um, I think is it the show yellow jackets is doing like a time jump as well, even though I know there's time jumps in the show, like they're like kind of jumping forward a little bit along the way. They theirs is more like uh from little the call back to arrow, like arrow's show where they did where they constantly jump back from past to uh present.
Well I also think they're doing that again in the next season. Like they're they're kind of moving forward a little bit. arrested development. remember when the restaurant all we got canceled on Fox and got picked up by Netflix, they did that time jump as well. um can't't say it was the best thing in the world, but you know it did it did it did happen along the way.
So yeah, hopefully, you know it's good. um you know, and and with the MCU, I I'm curious yeah, we were all curious when we watched the Netflix shows will they address the MCU proper? They did not, you know, other than what the the Thanos event, right, at the beginning? um or not Thanos, the uh Loki, the the Battle of New York is what they kept calling it. So I'm interested to see if this five years references the blip at all, you know right from from uh endame.
Infinity War, so we'll see if if they pull that in. If not, I don't care. It doesn't bother me. It has been five years since we returned from the Blood mic. if you can believe that, almost coming up on six years. So um we we've passed enough time we don't need to go back to it. A little little trailer, a little little short trailer season three of uh what if is coming up later this month here in just a couple of weeks, right? uh two weeks uh from today, actually.
And um it'll debut on Disney+ be daily uh through the rest of the thing. So it's the final season, so final episodes, and uh this, you know, the season three, this this trailer, if you will, um, you know, kind of show some highlights, some different spots from seasons one and two and says, you should probably rewatch one and two before you get into three, uh I don't think I will, but it is fun.
And then we get some other blips coming along the way you see some of these new characters, uh teaming up and kind of like what we get to see kind of going forward, including, obviously at the end of it, one of the most exciting things, storm, uh wheelie Mer, Mysterio returning from Spider-Man, uh No way home. No, far from home. God, those hard remember. And the, you know, the watcher was some some different celestials that we've seen before that are kind of like glowing in the dark.
So yeah, I'm excited to return to this and I glad it knows that it is getting like we talked about with supermanos a definitive ending where they know where they're writing towards it and I get canceled and just kind of float. But hopefully we get to see maybe some of these characters, some of these um uh new creations come into life into the uh, what is it, uh doomsday and Secret Wars movies coming up to, right? So hopefully they pay off.
and who doesn't want to see Paul Rudd's head back in a jar again? Back in the jar that Marvel zombies all right? Is that? Yeah, so I'm curious how uh how it's ending up in the what if uh line since zombies got its own thing. So that'll be a fun thing to find out. Yeah, I'm excited about thisEC episode. Like I don't know why do they build theE suits what which ones are transforming?
What toys can I buy in six months Mike, whatever you know, I can transform these little Marvel Mex into like a bigger one, uh kind of along the way. But I I'm, you know, this is like a low low stake show I can I can binge it last year when it came out of Christmas and I get skipped a day or two and then just watch them. So uh time to to dive into it and see if it all pays off in the end. Mike, you actually uh this this was big enough to hit your feed Marvel Rivals launched this week.
We talked about last week. uh the video game system uh on our video game on systems on Friday. and um Thursday or Friday and uh, you know, it launched with MCU inspired skins in the store, so they knew the audience they want to buy yo, you Loki from Loki season two or you're, you know, grot from Guardians the Galaxy Three, uh Adam Morlock from Guardians three, stuff like that. And you actually shared over a video sharing the MVP animation.
So if you're the best player in the game, you get the animation at the end of the game that are actually inspired slash almost replicas of scenes from the movies. Yeah, it's pretty cool. uh uh Marvel rivals, I think is a fun art style. We talked about it a little bit on the show last week, but uh you in front of the show, uh Quintin Parker have been playing and you guys seem to be having a fun time.
You shared your uh your uh your score in one match and uh you were boasting, I believe if I remember it's it's. First match, you know it's it's a it's an online game similar to overwatch. You either go to a point, capture the point the longest or you're pushing slash defending a vehicle that moves through. So the longer you're in the vehicle, it moves to the end and when you're at the end you end or if you defend it, you try to get people to not push it. They have maps a mix of Asgard and igils.
They have a Clintar few maps, so you you're fighting on the symbio planets. There's a hydro like a alternate universe where hydra is essentially making super soldiers and they have like their own like base called Hell's heaven. and there's a couple of black Panther maps as well, um the uh like a space Black Panthers, which was from the comic book. So they've got some a lot of variety. It's a free game. It has 33 playable characters.
I have seen um and these are rumored leaks, but you know, taken from it that the one of the upcoming characters is you actually get to plays ultron and his ability is to call in ultron drones to help heal and like guard people. So like you're more of a support ultron character, which I think would be interesting. And obviously with upcoming fantastic support, Mr. Fantastic is coming to the game and I would love to see some of his stretchy abilities and see what he plays as as well.
But again, uh absolutely free game. That's that's where you're going to get my money. Mike is in a free game. I'll definitely pay zero dollars to be playing. And it's Marvel. It's fun like it's very teamwork, but there are times like there are games I've been like so frustrated. It's just been uh definitely a give and take. Not all of them are winners with that along the way. And and I know like again, I think I even said this, I'm like this is not a mic coded game.
This is a very, very high energy, very competitive game, but hopefully it being free if you get a second to play it, I would love your opinions on on seeing the game and like how, again, like I said, there's custom interactions and when you're in the waiting lobby before you can go into that and play the match, you're all standing in a room, like who depending who you have characters, they will all have different conversations. So I play Penny Parker, who was spider from across theider verse.
She'll have different conversations with Black Widow who thinks in her world, Black Widow was a myth and she's like, oh, if you're out here that means things are bad kind of thing. So it's really fun to just a detail kind of put into it feels like a game made by the fans rather than like a corporate like kind of shove down your throat thing along the way. That's that's a superhero news. We're going to get into 28 years later, Mike.
Have you have you thought about 28 days later or any of those uh 28 weeks later since the guinea came out in like the early 2000s? I watched I watched them both for the first time during the pandemic, if I recall correctly, uh which is uh I think funny timing. I wonder what what inspired watching those. And they were they were fun.
I mean, just good, just like good zombie stuff. um I think they're a little over hyped for what they are, not saying they're bad, but you know, um, but it's it's it's exciting. You know, it's satisfying when like, uh Hollywood kind of lets the analytical, intrusive part of your brain when, you know, like, well, we did 28 and 20, 28 weeks and 28 days. Like we got to do 28 years, right? It's like, uh, yes, yes, please. No, it's was it 28 weeks or 28 months? Sorry.
So 28 days later than twenty weeks later, they skip months, um so they did not do months and then you, people are like, should have been 28 months later like, well it's been 20 plus years so we're a little closer to 20 years later. But so we got some first teaser footage. So I would say, you know, the first movie, um, you know, Danny Danny Boyle, and I believe, uh, you know, it's one of the first big roles for Killian Murphy, right? uh who is huge right now.
And I I be interested they bring it back, but um he he was not involved in uh and Alex Garland wrote. They were not involved. I think they were executive producers on the second one, 28 weeks later, which, you know, wasn't good, but it was like one of the first movies that that inspired like, you know, there's the rage virus. They're fast zombies, right? They're not the slow shambling ones, you know, they're not really, you know, the dead aren't really coming back to life.
They're a little different with the rage fires, right? You never know It's got that scene like, you know, with the the blood dropping in the dude's eye like early on. Like it's got some really iconic stuff and they did a very it was a very cheap movie. And I think they shot them on handhelds and like some of the new stuff that like the article is like all the shooting these on iPhones. Well, it's an iPhone, but it was like with a camera rig attached to it too.
So it's not like they're just hand holding an iPhone film filming this stuff. But like I I'm excited for this. Like it's it'd be fun to revisit this world. I have heard I think this rumor maybe it was announced, but like it's nothing truly official yet. But there is a 28 years later part two that would be coming out after this. So uh it looks like they're hoping to to tap into this a little bit more.
But it is Alex Garland and Danny Boyle coming back so hopefully we get a recapture that energy, that uniqueness of the first one rather than the more actiony second one along the way. But check out that teaser footage. I thought it was really fun to dive into that. uh We're not big potheads here on the show, Mike. You can confirm that for me for everybody. Yes, cool. uh but
confirming, uh you know, along that Harry Potter's just a huge phenomenon. we both live with uh, you know, our wives or Harry Potter fans through and through. uh it's you know permeated our youth it's you know, it's everywhere. Harry Potter's it's it takes over. um HBO is doing a series uh I think a couple of years ago uh on H on Max and or maybe it's HBO proper, I don't remember, but they confirm that the show will begin shooting its first season, uh next summer 2025.
Each season will be a book in in the series and uh one of the people making it said that we have eight hours to tell the first book. likely confirming these going to be eight uh one hour episodes for the show. I'm just interested, uh culturally more more than content wise, how a um going from a movie to a series, how A that will translate B what um what they're going to do with this, right? Like I'm I'm very interested in going the other direction.
It would be similar to like, again, taking Lord of the Rings and taking each movie and making a season out of the same material and seeing what they do with it. Lord of the Rings a little more, you know, they made some concessions there. Harry Potter movies made concessions, but I'm interested in this, Mike, for that purpose, more than anything.
I mean, from a storytelling point, you have a greater chance of doing everything right because you have more time to work with to adapt something longer. I mean, it's the it's the gripe as old as time of uh what's the difference between the book and the movie? Oh, the book has a lot more in it. So at least with the TV show, you have a chance to include a little bit more.
And but also at the same time, like Harry Potter, the movie franchise is like iconic for just being really good at adapting a lot of books. No one else out there has done it quite like they have done it. So it's like, well, it's kind of like don't don't fix it type of argument as well. uh but also we're on a a cycle wheel of franchises where we're we're bound to double back on everything eventually.
So uh my big question is not not necessarily, you know, how they'll adapt it or, you know, if it'll be quality. My question is, does this last eight years? That's my big question of like, is this company going to be bought and sold again around season four? You know, are are they going to like realize, oh, the the juice is not worth the squeeze and we're spending so much money and we're not driving subscribers.
You know, uh when you look over at a place like Amazon and they're shelling out all of that money for rings of power, it's like, oh, I get it. Like they can they can, you know, sell a ton of a ton more like Amazon echoes or, you know, sell a bunch of toilet paper, you know, and they can pay for an episode. But uh the HBO model is different. They have to fund everything with subscribers. So that's my bigger question of will this go the distance after all?
I mean, if you had to put your if you had to bet on something going eight years, a big franchise like Harry Potter seems like the way to go, but yeah, I wouldn't say it's a guarantee in my mind. Oh, absolutely not. I think that's. Well, I would also say looking at the history they tried to branch off from Harry Potterright. They did the fantastic beast in where to find them series, and they didn't even wrap that up. They did three and cut cut their losses, right?
I don't think we're ever going to get that fourth one that wraps it up and puts a little bow on it. It's still left on like a little cliffhanger. So, you know, there is no, you know, guarantee. But I think this is one of those shows that, you know, if HBO proper doesn't like it, you know, or maybe they're contracted, like maybe someone else would buy it like if they're like oh we did four seasons we don't want to do five, six and seven.
I could see someone else Netflix, Amazon uh help maybe even Disney buying it up to wrap it up, right kind of thing like, you know, hey, there's a there is there is a audience for the Harry Potter um wizarding world uh community like the the game uh highwardss like legacy, one of the one of the biggest video game launches
releases of last year. um I think there's still opportunities for people to do, but is it from a subscriber account, I'd interested because um this is this whole debut max, but it's HBO proper kind of like Game of Thrones. So this is like, I guess maybe they're trying to hatch their Game of Thrones not Game of Thrones property uh to to tell across eight years seven years yeah, if you will.
So I yeah your concern's the same concern I have I'm like yeah will will it go the distance Mike uh that's a they say in Disney? um so coming up here at the end of the show we we don't have like said the news is kind of late this week. CCXP kind of let me down. uh but we're going to talk creature commandos uh the first proper project from the DC universe uh written by James Gunn released uh first two episodes this week on Max.
I would say full full spoiler, if you haven't watched it, you'd probably watch it before you come back, um, but we'll try to not start with spoilers, I guess along the way, but just, you know, we might slip into them as we kind of move into it. I would also probably say first episodes, not to spoilerery, you know, just to be transparent. It's not like there's a whole bunch of stuff here, but they did release a trailer showcasing some of the scenes from the first episode.
I think it was the first episode, right? Maybe not, maybe it was just like upcoming scenes. I don't remember seeing this in the showike. Is this upcoming footage, maybe you that?
Well, it's weird when I watched the I watched the both episodes of creatures Commandos today and usually what happens on HBO is they'll do like a one or two episode premiere and then after the second episode, they'll show you a trailer of what's to come this season, to hype you up, the keep you around for the next six, eight, eight weeks or whatever.
But for some reason, they made a trailer for creature commandos like that of what's to come in the next week, but they played it after the first episode and not the second episode for me, at least personally, which was really confusing.
But yeah, there's like some, there's some crazy stuff that looks like coming up, but once you watch the first two episodes, you kind of get familiar, at least with some of the settings and scenery and you go, okay, I could see maybe this will be episode three or four and maybe this could be like six and eight a little further down the line. But um there is like a brief glimpse of a um of a character showing the future. And we see like the uh what the David Corn sweat. Is that his name?
sworth the next yeah, James Gunn Superman uh with the S and everything he's like all crucified He's on like a like a wasteland yeah, he's on a cross and then you going to see uh impaled versions of Mr. terrific and Starire uh and I only put this in here because Mr. Hussin set photos up we know he's going to be a Superman butire has not been announced yet to be in this universe, so it looks like, you know, kind of leading into those teen Titans rumors we've talked about over the past
few months as well. um because I actually saw this after I watched oh there's a peacemaker when uh you obviously anything James Gunn touches he's going to put in here because I he is self-indulging, uh but UFCC Peacemaker laying on the ground like it was like blown off and a bunch of other corpses as well. Yeah, it's the same it's the same everybody's spike.
So it looks like, you know, it's just seen as like a sur she's saying like, oh, the, you know, the future, you know, everyone's going to die. Obviously, I don't think any of this is going to come true, Mike. The DCU was probably not going to kill all its heroes uh along the way, but it'll be interesting to see when that pops up in an episode kind of kind of along the way.
And then also, the other thing, uh when I watched this, uh I put this note in here, they confirmed that Kature Command is set two years after the the suicide squad, not David Ayers, James Gun the suicide squad, and those events are probably canon, so maybe this isn't the first DCU project
along the way. um yeah, anyway we' we' we'll talk about the the yeah, these first two episodes uh directly reference uh James Gunns the suicide squad and James Gunns peacemaker uh so uh it is kind of weird that Superman is supposed to be like the first thing, but there's a lot of there's three other soft first things, which is pretty funny. uh but this will kind of give you um maybe uhom flashbacks uh when you start off because it's set up just like every other suicide squad movie.
It's like they're walking into a prison. Yeah. And so it's just like, I'm getting flashbacks here. Luckily they make that go very, very quickly and they are up in a helicopter within like it feels like five minutes. Yeah, because well, they do they do the thing where they, oh, we're here to the people that are in who are incarcerated, you know, the main characters.
There's no one else in there that I can tell, even though that that trailer kind of looks like there might be some other people around like a maybe a grill grot or somebody similar like that. But like, you know, the inhumans with the like these not humans, these monsters with that. But like they do like, oh, this is the bride.
And then it literally cuts after this like to the intro of the show where it does it again, where like the every intro tells you the character's name with like the freeze frame beside them. So you get it twice like twice in that episode and I'm like, oh, you probably did need it in the episode if it's in your intro for every. And don't forget about the most important character that you see last in the opening credits.
animated and illustrated typing on his computer as the credited writer and creator of the show, which he felt a little self-congratulatory to me, but at least it kind of looked slick, so I don't know how to I agree that I hate it. I I would be honest.
I hate it because he he he's not if he was typed on his computer and looking like he was busy, yeah, but he does the thing where he like pushes like two keys and leans back with his arms behind his head like he's like smug like yeah, what I typed is just the best thing ever. And like if you didn't if your character like this design put off like I'm doing work and not that I'm smug and think that this is the best thing ever, I would be okay with it.
But, you know, that goes into what I'm going to say, Mike is I don't like this show. I don't like it. I think I'm just going to be. I did not have a good time. I was on my phone within like 15 minutes. I was like I'm bored. It sucks. literally I tell you every every like there's like a song, um I think three songs playing this. They're all by um the band or artist Gorgo Bordello, right?
famously known from the early 2000s of the song start wearing purple, but all three songs because they're in some sort of made up country named like Polistan or something like that. It's weird. Yeah, something like that. And so it's playing the song and they're like talking to each other, but they let the music play and he's like it's not just the music he he's singing over while they're talking.
I'm like, could you have not just got the instrumental like parts for when your characters are talking? Because I don't I get it you want to hear your music. You've done a quirky job. You've picked a band nobody listens to on the regular You know, the band is even animated in the second episode, Mike, uh where they um the bride and Frankenstein are brawling. My guess was like, uh does gun know know these people to put them in like directly? I don't know. I'm sure he could if you wanted to. Yeah.
Well, if he doesn't, he does now. he's like, you know what you you everyone's heard your one song. We're going to put two more songs so people know who you are. So I it just felt over this show felt ove indulgent in James Gunn tendencies, including the introductions of the characters, the quirky music that plays over while people are talking. um the the very hyersexualized princess of this country who's trying to sleep with Rickfig sen the whole time, um it it just graded on me.
Like nothing felt, you know, good while I was watching it. I think maybe the second episode got a little better as it delved into the background of the bride character, right? The like the only character character I guess we have some background on um so far, but I was just like, man, I'm not having a good time with this show. I I think it it's one of those things where nobody told James'sunn to calm down and write something good. They just like, yeah, whatever you want to do, man, you're cool.
And I that's how I feel. So far two episodes in, um just not having a good time. Mike, tell me how you feel? Probably a little different than me, but I mean, it's kind of funny. This is the rare occurrence. This is the rare occurrence where we're kind of flipped on this. You're typically the optimist when it comes to the stuff we talk about on the show. I will caveat while saying I watch this show while also uh watching my five-monthold and also wrapping Christmas presents at the same time.
So it may not have had a hundred percent of my attention, but I watched it enough to feel like I could say I enjoyed it. uh This feels very in line with uh the kind of genre of adult action comic book animation that Invincible kind of has spearheaded recently. uh I get like similar vibes, similar maturity, similar slick animation when the action starts. um I would say visually this show to me looks better than Invincible.
uh when I'm watching that on Pri, sometimes I feel where the budget is being stretched on invincible. I'm not saying it doesn't look good when it gets going and the story is great, but I felt like uh creature commandos looked really good to me personally.. I did I actually think that was the other part I had was that actually it's funny to bring it first because I think it I think it's an ugly show. I don't I think it's it feels lazy in animation and design.
But continue. Sorry, I just I was that that's interesting. Yeah, but yeah, I I enjoyed it overall. I thought it was an interesting approach to kind of focus on the bride um as kind of uh our jumping off point. At least it seems for the first two episodes where her storyline seems to be the the through line that is starting to get the story going and bringing in the uh drama.
It seems like we're going to get into each character as the season goes along, but the bride seems pretty like a nice strong place to start. um I'll agree with you that the princess of this fake country is she seems kind of like very one note and I don't really understand why she's there except for maybe to get the the intended audience for this show extra excited if you know what I'm saying? But I kind of just over overlooked that for the most part where yeah, I I like I enjoyed it.
It's not uh I don't think it's amazing. It's not perfect, but it didn't have to be. It just had to not be bad, but at least in my mind, that's how it worked. But the the the the thing is is like James Gunn gets to have his cake and eat it too, because this is the perfect type of content for his universe, where if nobody liked it and nobody watched it, oh, it, you know, he'll just wave it off like, oh, it was animated.
You know, it's no big deal. don't pay attention to it. uh, but if it ends up being great, like, oh, look at this awesome adult animated thing, like look at this variety of content that I'm bringing to uh to HBO Max. So uh it's kind of a win,win uh either way it goes. But I I thought I thought it was fine.
I'm more curious of the imp implications of since this is in a universe, well, now I can imagine when I'm watching the Superman movie, like, oh, technically Frankenstein is just out there on this planet somewhere on a yacht, which is kind of crazy to imagine. So at least it's kind of giving us details of what hit James Gunn's world is going to look like.
And that is my concern if this is his first, well, this I'm going to say the suicide squad and peacemaker or James he's done the he's doing the first four items into Superman. If Superman's anywhere close to this, it'll be fucking trash, Mike. Like like I don't want James Gunn's fingerprints on Superman after watching this because I'm like no one's telling him no he wants to be quirky.
He wants to be you know, different, have little one liners and be R rated and do the stuff he did at Troma in here and I'm like, yeah, that's fine, but like you can't I'm worried about Superman if he's going to be doing it here, who's going to stop him from doing it on a bigger property and a bigger property, right? Like will will it be like I agree this can be bad and it's fine, but if Superman is anywhere near this, it's going to be not fun for anybody to watch, right? At the end of the day.
Well, we've agreed in the past about this with gun in general when we were reviewing peacemaker of like when you give him too long of a leash, it just really feels like you're watching a James Gunn movie or TV show and you're not really watching something that exists within the DC universe, uh, which might make you sound hypocritical sometimes because it's like, well, you know, I really like it when, you know, these superhero movies come with a direction or a vision or they
feel like they have an energy, but sometimes it can be a little self-indulgent. Just look at anything recently tchoates done over at a Marvel. So uh, yeah, it's weird. It's like I'm not rooting for producers and executives with leashes, but you know, I can I can understand the the angle that you're coming from, but uh yeah, we got we got a couple more episodes. What is this 10 or eight episodes? I think it's seven. I actually think it's an odd number.
Oh, yeah, that's right because I think we talked about like, oh, it's done when it's done or that that's where he found his script ending and that's what he wanted to do. like I guess we'll do you think you're going to are you going to watch more just out of sheer curiosity? Yeah, no I'll absolutely watch it um It is seven episodes uh weekly through January. Like I will watch it but I I just you know I feel those complaints I had about peacemaker coming out when I'm watching this.
I'm like oh this is you know it's it's they're a shock value to shock me I don't need to see um Victor Frankenstein sleeping with a very nude corpse, the bride who is supposed to essentially body parts, right? Like they they show full nudity in this. And I'm like, well this is they could have just done that off screen or like referenced it rather than showing it. I'm like, they're just doing it because James Gunn that's what he wants to show. He wants to make it weird.
He wants to make it uh, again, but he used to work quirky and something you never we've never no one's ever done this before, uh, so he can put it on his resume for later and I'm just like, yeah, just tell me a good story so hopefully it's good. I also, you know, for being two episodes, the villain, you know, we learn like right at the beginning, right?
I think it's the intro, like is the the villain of this, uh who is a wonder woman uh uh villain, um we don't even see her we see her at the first episode. Let me see it literally at the end of this the second episode. So I'm like, let's get to the, you know, where the villain is here. What's what's the plot who what's the what's the end goal for this this team before we get them in there?
So I I want I wish I wanted to move, I guess, towards that direction a little bit, but knowing looking up here the next three titles, Mike, are cheers to the Tin man, which we're probably going to learn about GI robot in his background next, chasing squirrels is number four, which is going to probably be weasel and then the iron pot is number five, which will probably be Dr. Fosphorus's background story.
So, um, it seems like we're going to be getting some some backgrounds of these characters kind of a long way more than them taking care of, what is it, the sons of theascara, I think is the the name of the the hillbillies who are trying to get to the Woolman Island. So I'll watch it. Yeah, I'm like I don't I'm not like absolutely like, I don't hate it enough to like I turn off, but like I'm going to be hate watching it while I get through this, if that makes sense along the way.
So, um now on on if you guys will watch us on Max, it'll be coming out every, I guess Thursday the the 12th is this coming Thursday right uh I got to pull up my my schedule um because I never know what day it is in Decemberike uh the holidays run together and it's dark at like four o'clock uh yeah the 12th Thursday so this weekend are on Thursdays on max um kind of a long the way. I'm I'm also interested to see kind of more, you know as we saw like the commercial.
What is the DC universe that Jameson is putting? What What are those notes that he's putting in there, like the little subtle notes, right? Like the Superman, the Mr.ic, the peacemaker, what other things are actually happening in the world around themselves? So I will be watching for those little bits of notes as we we get towards towards that. Anything else you want to add to this? You want to I go download the Google Bordello?
This is a great reminder to stay subscribe to the podcast and check in each week and to see check our temperature on creature commandos. Yeah, and I will have I will have skeleton all three episodes done by next week so we can talk a little bit about that if we want to, but um absolutely. So Mike, if people know what you're up to what you're doing, where can they find me out, buddy? Yeah, they can read my web comics at pickled comics.com and rewards risk..
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