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Super Data Science: ML & AI Podcast with Jon Krohn

The latest machine learning, A.I., and data career topics from across both academia and industry are brought to you by host Dr. Jon Krohn on the Super Data Science Podcast. As the quantity of data on our planet doubles every couple of years and with this trend set to continue for decades to come, there's an unprecedented opportunity for you to make a meaningful impact in your lifetime. In conversation with the biggest names in the data science industry, Jon cuts through hype to fuel that professional impact. Whether you're curious about getting started in a data career or you're a deep technical expert, whether you'd like to understand what A.I. is or you'd like to integrate more data-driven processes into your business, we have inspiring guests and lighthearted conversation for you to enjoy. We cover tools, techniques, and implementation tricks across data collection, databases, analytics, predictive modeling, visualization, software engineering, real-world applications, commercialization, and entrepreneurship − everything you need to crush it with data science.
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Episodes

934: Is AI Replacing Junior Workers?

Jon Krohn investigates the complex question of AI replacing junior workers, contrasting initial findings of stable white-collar employment with company-level data showing a significant decline in jobs for young professionals (22-25) in AI-exposed roles, particularly at firms adopting generative AI. Research from Stanford and Harvard reveals an 8% steeper decline in junior roles at AI-adopter companies and suggests mid-tier graduates are most vulnerable. However, entry-level workers with AI skills are seeing salary increases, emphasizing the need for young professionals to acquire AI-complementary expertise to thrive in a bifurcated labor market.

Oct 24, 20257 min

933: Future-Proofing Your Career in the AI Era, feat. Sheamus McGovern

Sheamus McGovern, CEO of Open Data Science, shares the journey of building the ODSC conference and how the AI/ML landscape has transformed over a decade, from basic tools to agentic AI. He emphasizes the emergence of new roles like the AI engineer, the need for continuous skill rewiring, and the shift towards skills-based hiring. The discussion also covers how AI startups leverage "tiny teams" and the importance of human-centered skills for future-proofing careers in an era of rapid technological change.

Oct 21, 20251 hr 15 min

932: Should You Build or Buy Your AI Solution? With Larissa Schneider

Larissa Schneider speaks to Jon Krohn in this Feature Friday about finding the right time to invest in AI solutions, and when it’s better to build them yourself. She discusses her work leading global strategy and operations at Unframe, and how they raised $50 million in venture capital since the company’s launch in March 2025. Additional materials: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠www.superdatascience.com/932⁠⁠⁠ ⁠ Interested in sponsoring a SuperDataScience Podcast episode? Email natalie@superdatascience.com...

Oct 17, 202529 min

931: Boost Your Profits with Mathematical Optimization, feat. Jerry Yurchisin

AI predictions, and how to act on them: Data Science Strategist at Gurobi, Jerry Yurchisin, speaks to Jon Krohn about how mathematical optimization helps enterprises automate decisions for business success and where to find the resources to make it happen. This episode is brought to you by the ⁠ODSC, the Open Data Science Conference , by Fabi , by ⁠Dell⁠ , and by ⁠Intel⁠ . Additional materials: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠www.superdatascience.com/931⁠⁠⁠ ⁠ Interested in sponsoring a SuperDataScience Podc...

Oct 14, 20251 hr 13 min

930: In Case You Missed It in September 2025

Jon Krohn’s highlights from this month of interviews focus on ways to future-proof your career, looking at the hardware that will get you the most mileage, the emerging roles that are well worth a look, and the developments in AI that will endure in a field constantly testing the durability of its own breakthroughs. Additional materials: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.superdatascience.com/930⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Interested in sponsoring a SuperDataScience Podcast episode? Email natalie@superdatascience.com for sponsors...

Oct 10, 202537 min

929: Dragon Hatchling: The Missing Link Between Transformers and the Brain, with Adrian Kosowski

Breaking news: Jon Krohn welcomes Adrian Kosowski to the show to talk about the groundbreaking research happening at Pathway. Adrian and his team demonstrate how they have brought attention in AI closer to the way the brain functions, creating, in essence, a “massively parallel system of [artificial] neurons” that communicate with one another and exhibit properties similar to natural neurons. The goal is to move beyond the current limitations of transformers, where reasoning can be generalized a...

Oct 07, 20251 hr 14 min

928: The “Lethal Trifecta”: Can AI Agents Ever Be Safe?

Prompt injections, malicious code, and AI agents: In this week’s Five-Minute Friday, Jon Krohn looks into the current security weaknesses found in AI systems. A structural vulnerability that The Economist dubs a “lethal trifecta” could cause havoc for AI users, unless we take the necessary steps to contain our systems. Additional materials: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.superdatascience.com/928⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Interested in sponsoring a SuperDataScience Podcast episode? Email natalie@superdatascience.com for sponsor...

Oct 03, 20256 min

927: Automating Code Review with AI, feat. CodeRabbit’s David Loker

Earlier this year, David Loker joined CodeRabbit as their Director of AI. As more people come to write code with the help of large language models, David believes CodeRabbit will become a helpful assistant for code reviewing and pull requests. He tells Jon Krohn how CodeRabbit assists developers with real-time feedback, as well as the reality of vibe coding, the optimization challenges of agentic AI, and other pressing questions in AI and tech. This episode is brought to you by the ⁠Dell⁠ , by ⁠...

Sep 30, 20251 hr 19 min

926: AI is Disrupting the Legal Industry: Are Paralegals Doomed?

In this Five-Minute Friday, Jon Krohn explores how AI is reshaping the legal industry. He investigates how AI tools are helping lawyers make conclusions faster, how paralegals are being retrained, and the latest in-demand role in law (hint: It concerns AI). Listen to hear how Harvey AI and Thomson Reuters’ CoCounsel are using AI to help lawyers get ahead. Additional materials: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.superdatascience.com/926⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Interested in sponsoring a SuperDataScience Podcast episode? Email natal...

Sep 26, 20255 min

925: AI, Automation and the Future of Work, with Oxford’s Prof. Carl Benedikt Frey

Tech innovation’s dependence on economic systems, trust in technology throughout history, and job displacement through AI: The Dieter Schwartz Associate Professor of AI and work at the University of Oxford, Carl Benedikt Frey, talks to Jon Krohn about his latest book, How Progress Ends , as well as how different economic systems deal with innovation and scaling, dealing with the homogeneity of generative AI output, and how to stay afloat in the new wave of job automation. This episode is brought...

Sep 23, 20251 hr 10 min

924: 95% of Enterprise AI Projects Fail (Per MIT Research)

MIT lab NANDA (“Networked AI Agents in Decentralized Architecture”) reveals less than promising results for the future of AI adoption in businesses. According to “The GenAI Divide: State of AI in Business 2025”, a whopping 95% of enterprise AI projects “are getting zero return” on their $30-40 billion investment. Jon Krohn takes this Five-Minute Friday to look into why this has happened, with help from a critical response to the report written by Futuriom ’s R. Scott Raynovich. Additional materi...

Sep 19, 20255 min

923: Graph Algorithms, GraphRAG and Causal Graphs, with Graph Guru Amy Hodler

Graphs, but not as you would expect them: Graph analytics guru Amy Hodler speaks to Jon Krohn about the graph data structure and graph applications, graph algorithms, graph RAG, and graphs as memory systems for AI agents. We can use graphs in a surprising number of ways. Money laundering and fraud, as well as supply-chain crime, leave breadcrumbs at multiple “touch-points” over time, behaviors that graphs are better suited to reveal than rows and tables. Amy sees that most interest in graphs has...

Sep 16, 20251 hr 4 min

922: AI for Manufacturing and Industry, with Hugo Dozois-Caouette

Hugo Dozois-Caouette speaks to Jon Krohn about his startup MaintainX and how he secured $254 million in venture capital, reaching a $2.5 billion valuation. MaintainX builds computerized maintenance management systems (CMMS) and enterprise asset management (EAM) software for industrial and manufacturing companies. This "digital clipboard" delivered through web and mobile apps connects machines, work orders, and frontline teams to boost productivity, reduce downtime, and prevent costly breakdowns....

Sep 12, 202528 min

921: NPUs vs GPUs vs CPUs for Local AI Workloads, with Dell’s Ish Shah and Shirish Gupta

Using Windows for AI development and the bleeding edge of NPUs: Shirish Gupta and Ish Shah from Dell Technologies speak to Jon Krohn about the latest products from Dell, the future of neural-processing units (NPUs), and how AI developers can make sound hardware investments. This episode is brought to you by the Trainium2, the latest AI chip from AWS , by ODSC, the Open Data Science Conference and by Gurobi. Additional materials: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠www.superdatascience.com/921 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Interested in spo...

Sep 09, 20251 hr 12 min

920: In Case You Missed It in August 2025

This month’s episode of In Case You Missed It gives us reasons to be cautiously optimistic about the future of large language models (LLMs), with guests discussing what to do about recent reports that found AI agents blackmailed human users when threatened, the importance of post-training LLMs, and the training we have available for data and AI engineers to create robust, secure, and useful AI. Jon Krohn includes clips from his interviews with Akshay Agrawal (Episode 911), Julien Launay (Episode...

Sep 05, 202522 min

919: Hopes and Fears of AGI, with All-Time Bestselling ML Author Aurélien Géron

PyTorch, AGI, and the future of alignment research: Aurélien Géron joins Jon Krohn in this live interview to talk about the fourth edition of his bestselling Hands-On Machine Learning as well as what superintelligence makes him hopeful for, as well as what concerns him about machines surpassing human intelligence. This episode is brought to you by Gurobi and by the Dell AI Factory with NVIDIA⁠ Additional materials: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠www.superdatascience.com/919⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Interested in sponsoring a Sup...

Sep 02, 20251 hr 30 min

918: Multi-Agent Systems with CrewAI

In this Five-Minute Friday, Jon Krohn introduces listeners to CrewAI, an open-source Python framework that can create and manage multi-agent teams. The clue is in the title: CrewAI assembles specialized agents into single “crews” that achieve complex goals between them. CrewAI’s agent teams can also learn and iterate, meaning that after the crew has achieved its goals for the first time, they can refine and tailor their approach to future goals. Additional materials: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠www.superdatascie...

Aug 29, 20259 min

917: 8 Steps to Becoming an AI Engineer, with Kirill Eremenko

Founder of SuperDataScience, Kirill Eremenko, talks to Jon Krohn about how he found the best tools and approaches to help launch his 8-week AI engineering bootcamp. He breaks down the topics participants cover each week, and he also shares his tips with listeners who might want to start their own tech bootcamp or sign up for SuperDataScience’s September 2025 cohort. This episode is brought to you by the Dell AI Factory with NVIDIA and by ODSC, the Open Data Science Conference Additional material...

Aug 26, 20251 hr 16 min

916: The 5 Key GPT-5 Takeaways

GPT-5 has just been released, but with not very much fanfare. In this Five-Minute Friday, Jon Krohn asks if GPT-5 deserves the community’s underwhelmed response to its release. He outlines five features of the model and explains why people might be feeling less than enthusiastic in the broader context of LLM development. Which LLMs are leading the way, and which are still playing the game of catch-up? Additional materials: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠www.superdatascience.com/916⁠⁠⁠ Interested in sponsoring a Supe...

Aug 22, 202510 min

915: How to Jailbreak LLMs (and How to Prevent It), with Michelle Yi

Tech leader, investor, and Generationship cofounder Michelle Yi talks to Jon Krohn about finding ways to trust and secure AI systems, the methods that hackers use to jailbreak code, and what users can do to build their own trustworthy AI systems. Learn all about “red teaming” and how tech teams can handle other key technical terms like data poisoning, prompt stealing, jailbreaking and slop squatting. This episode is brought to you by ⁠Trainium2, the latest AI chip from AWS⁠ and by the ⁠Dell AI F...

Aug 19, 20251 hr 10 min

914: Data Lakes 101 (and Why They’re Key for AI Models), with Oz Katz

In this Five-Minute Friday, Cofounder and CTO of lakeFS Oz Katz talks to Jon Krohn about data warehouses, data lakes, and how companies can handle increasingly complex data infrastructures and formats. Hear about lakeFS’s collaboration with Legofest, lakeFS’s approach to helping users collaborate on data lakes, and how to overcome the challenges of working with multimodal data. Additional materials: ⁠ www.superdatascience.com/914⁠ This episode is brought to you by the ⁠Dell AI Factory with NVIDI...

Aug 15, 202526 min

913: LLM Pre-Training and Post-Training 101, with Julien Launay

Julien Launay launched Adaptive to give data science teams in business enterprises their “RLOps tooling” to make reinforcement learning easier. Talking to Jon Krohn, Julien says, “Most of our users are data scientists who write Python codes to interface with the system”. Adaptive is also able to work with companies without data science teams, collaborating with partners like Deloitte to add the necessary personnel. Julien is currently working on making his platform more widely available. Additio...

Aug 12, 20251 hr 15 min

912: In Case You Missed It in July 2025

In this episode of In Case You Missed It, we look back on five great interview episodes from July. Hear from Lilith Bat-Leah (Episode 901), Sinan Ozdemir (Episode 903), Sebastian Gehrmann (Episode 905), Zohar Bronfman (Episode 907) and Robert Ness (Episode 909). They’ll tell you why data-centric machine learning is so important across disciplines, starting with law, and how we can use AI benchmarks and “red teaming” to refine our search for the best AI models. Additional materials: ⁠ ⁠⁠⁠www.supe...

Aug 08, 202533 min

911: The Future of Python Notebooks is Here, with Marimo’s Dr. Akshay Agrawal

Reproducibility, Python notebooks, and data science communities: Software developer Akshay Agrawal speaks to Jon Krohn about Marimo, the next-generation computational notebook for Python, how he built and fostered a thriving community around the product, and what makes this notebook so versatile and accessible for users. Additional materials: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠www.superdatascience.com/911⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ This episode is brought to you by ⁠Trainium2, the latest AI chip from AWS ⁠ and by the ⁠Dell AI Factory with NV...

Aug 05, 202558 min

910: AI is Disrupting Journalism: The Good, The Bad and The Opportunity

In this Five-Minute Friday, Jon Krohn looks into AI’s disruption of the journalism industry and how it has fundamentally reshaped news production. Multiple news outlets’ suing of ChatGPT over its use of copyrighted materials may have taken the most headlines to date, but this isn’t to say news media is rebuffing AI entirely. On the contrary, several outlets have launched summarization and analysis tools for both internal and external use, such as The New York Times’s Echo and The Washington Post...

Aug 01, 202510 min

909: Causal AI, with Dr. Robert Usazuwa Ness

Researcher at Microsoft Robert Usazuwa Ness talks to Jon Krohn about how to achieve causality in AI with correlation-based learning, the right libraries, and handling statistical inference. When dealing with causal AI, Robert notes how important it is to keep aware of variables in the data that may mislead us and force inaccurate assumptions. Not all variables will be useful. It is essential, then, that any assumptions are grounded in a deeper understanding of how the data were gathered, and not...

Jul 29, 20251 hr 22 min

908: AI Agents Blackmail Humans 96% of the Time (Agentic Misalignment)

The moral and ethical implications of letting AI take the wheel in business, as revealed by Anthropic: Jon Krohn looks into Anthropic’s latest research on how to use and deploy LLMs safely, specifically in business environments. The team designed scenarios to test the behavior of AI agents when given a goal and a set of obstacles to reach it. Those obstacles included 1) threats to the AI’s continued operation, and 2) conflict between the AI’s goals and the goals of the company. Hear Jon break do...

Jul 25, 20259 min

907: Neuroscience, AI and the Limitations of LLMs, with Dr. Zohar Bronfman

“Intelligence has many forms,” says Zohar Bronfman, who speaks with Jon Krohn about the fascinating intersection between computational neuroscience and philosophy, and how it has brought him closer to understanding what is necessary to develop human-like intelligence in machines, as well as his motivations for launching Pecan AI and why predictive models outstrip generative models in business. Additional materials: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ www.superdatascience.com/907⁠⁠⁠ This episode is brought to you ⁠⁠⁠ by, ⁠⁠...

Jul 22, 20251 hr 21 min

906: How Prof. Jason Corso Solved Computer Vision’s Data Problem

Jason Corso speaks to Jon Krohn in this Five-Minute Friday all about Voxel51’s latest tool, Verified Auto-Labelling, and the company’s incredible success in developing popular tools for computer vision. Additional materials: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠www.superdatascience.com/906⁠ Interested in sponsoring a SuperDataScience Podcast episode? Email natalie@superdatascience.com for sponsorship information.

Jul 18, 202529 min

905: Why RAG Makes LLMs Less Safe (And How to Fix It), with Bloomberg’s Dr. Sebastian Gehrmann

RAG LLMs are not safer: Sebastian Gehrmann speaks to Jon Krohn about his latest research into how retrieval-augmented generation (RAG) actually makes LLMs less safe, the three ‘H’s for gauging the effectivity and value of a RAG, and the custom guardrails and procedures we need to use to ensure our RAG is fit-for-purpose and secure. This is a great episode for anyone who wants to know how to work with RAG in the context of LLMs, as you’ll hear how to select the best model for purpose, useful appr...

Jul 15, 202558 min
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