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Sunstone Podcast

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For more than 45 years, Sunstone has been exploring Mormonism in all its expressions through our publications and symposiums. The Sunstone Podcast gathers the best of these explorations, including compelling sessions from our worldwide symposiums as well as interviews, book reviews, and deep dives into all things Mormon. Hosted by Stephen Carter.
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E198: Relief Society Baby.

For Heather Sundahl, Relief Society was the “monster child that sucked up my mom.” What was it like to be the daughter of the most powerful woman in the stake—who couldn’t find time to read to her? https://sunstone.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/SLP-198.mp3

Apr 28, 20250

E197: The Indomitable Raftsman of Mormonism.

In 1954, California LDS bishop Devere Baker set out to prove that Lehi could have sailed from the Persian Gulf to Guatemala—by sailing his own raft, which he called the Lehi. Samuel Taylor tells about Baker’s 25-year endeavor—and how he went through six Lehis in the process. https://sunstone.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/SLP-197.mp3

Apr 17, 20250

E196: You Can Go Home Again. But Do You Want To?

How much can we heal from the wounds our religious community gave us? Stephen Carter explores the “hero cycle” story structure to find out. https://sunstone.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/03/SLP-196.mp3

Apr 03, 20250

E195: An Insider’s Look at the Baseball Baptisms in Britain.

The Baseball Baptism era is a controversial one in LDS history. Richard Mavin gives a first-hand account of how it all happened in Britain and how his mission experience both thrilled and haunted him for the rest of his life. https://sunstone.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/03/SLP-195.mp3

Mar 18, 20250

E194: The Baseball Baptism Era.

Probably the most controversial period of Mormon missionary history was from about 1960–1962 when more than 100,000 boys were baptized into the LDS Church worldwide—sometimes without realizing it. They were on a baseball field one moment and being baptized the next. In this episode, D. Michael Quinn tells the story of the Baseball Baptism era and the fallout that occurred from it—including the excommunication of about 90 percent of those boys. https://sunstone.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/03/SLP-...

Mar 12, 20250

E193: Should We Toss Testimony Meeting?

LDS testimony meetings are usually tedious affairs. Yet we have them every month. Why? Anthropologist David Knowlton compares testimony meeting with similar rituals worldwide to see if it’s doing its job—or if we should toss it. https://sunstone.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/02/SLP-193.mp3

Feb 18, 20250

E192: Annalee Skarin: Excommunicated then Translated—Yes, Like Enoch.

In 1948, Annalee Skarin had just published a book she said was written by the power of God. She was very soon excommunicated from the LDS Church. But then a few days later, eyewitnesses said she was translated. She wrote eight more books after that, becoming nationally famous. In this episode, Samuel W. Taylor and Skarin’s daughter Hope A. Hilton give two very different perspectives on Skarin’s life and legacy. https://sunstone.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/SLP-192.mp3...

Feb 06, 20250

E191: How to Spot an Unorthodox BYU Professor.

Clark Gilbert is tightening the orthodoxy clamps at BYU, just like Ernest Wilkinson did in the 1950s and 60s. Is this the best way to make BYU students into lifelong Latter-day Saints? Stephen Carter compares Wilkinson’s BYU with Gilbert’s and then talks about his own experience with two BYU professors who kept him engaged with the Church—because of their unique mix of faithfulness and unorthodoxy. https://sunstone.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/SLP-191.mp3...

Jan 22, 20250

E190: Camping at the Edge of Excommunication.

Sterling M. McMurrin had only been a seminary teacher for two years before the president of the Church, Heber J. Grant, wanted to fire him. And he camped at the edge of excommunication for the rest of his life. McMurrin recalls these turbulent, and comic, years in this episode. https://sunstone.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/SLP-190.mp3

Jan 14, 20250

E189: Three Kinds of Believers.

Much is made in the LDS Church about how David Whitmer, one of the Three Witnesses of the Book of Mormon, never recanted his testimony, even though he left the Church. What they don’t tell you is that it was precisely his testimony of the Book of Mormon that drove him out. In this episode, Karl C. Sandberg tells the rest of Whitmer’s story, showing how Whitmer, B. H. Roberts, and Werner Heisenberg represent three different types of believers—all offering something completely different. https://s...

Jan 06, 20250

E188: “Heretic” and the War Within Mormonism.

In the movie “Heretic,” Mr. Reed is the logical conclusion of many parts of Mormonism. And they threaten to destroy Mormonism’s best parts. Join Stephen Carter on a deep dive into Heretic’s multi-faceted story. https://sunstone.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/12/SLP-188.mp3

Dec 09, 20240

E187: Four Looks at My Father.

What happens when you grow apart politically from a parent? In this episode, Bryan Waterman looks back over the years he spent with his father—both at home and at school—and how they learned to live together. https://sunstone.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/11/SLP-187.mp3

Nov 27, 20240

E186: The Folklore of Mormon Missionaries.

William A. Wilson and John B. Harris spent years gathering missionary folklore—everything from greenie initiation stories to encounters with the Devil. Whether the stories are true or not, Wilson shows in this episode what they reveal about the inner lives of missionaries. https://sunstone.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/11/SLP-186.mp3

Nov 13, 20240

E185: Can You Avoid Organizational Abuse in the Church?

People need organizations to help us fulfill our potential. However, organizations are never entirely safe. In this episode, J. Bonner Ritchie explores how the LDS Church functions and how members can transcend its inherent organizational dangers. https://sunstone.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/SLP-185.mp3

Oct 29, 20240

E183: Could Feminism Have Saved the Nephites?

What should we make of the astonishing lack of females in the Book of Mormon? Carol Lynn Pearson says that it points to a lesson the Nephites never learned—one that likely contributed to their destruction. https://sunstone.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/SLP-183.mp3

Oct 03, 20240

E182: The Search for God in Intentional Community.

In 1972, Marylee Mitcham started a quasi-monastic Catholic community, where she lived for ten years. Later, when she joined the LDS Church, she learned that one of her ancestors had started a branch of the United Order in early Utah. Mitcham narrates her fascinating religious history in this episode. https://sunstone.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/SLP-182.mp3

Sep 17, 20240

E181: Hugh Nibley: The Man and the Legend.

LDS scholar Hugh Nibley became a legend in his own time. But how many of the legends were real and how many were fantasies? In this episode, Boyd Petersen digs into the facts behind the stories. https://sunstone.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/SLP-181.mp3

Sep 13, 20240

E180: Is Conversion a Type of Trauma?

Religious conversion and trauma have very similar structures, but with one important difference. In this episode, Stephen Carter draws on Adam Phillips, Julie Hanks, and Prentis Hemphill to explore what happens when people enter a religion, and what happens when they leave. https://sunstone.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/SLP-180.mp3

Aug 27, 20240

E179: Why Korihor Needed a Good Physical Therapist.

Is the story of Korihor the story of a missed opportunity? In the Book of Mormon, an anti-Christ named Korhior is struck dumb by Alma using the power of God. Could there have been a neurological contributor to Korihor’s sudden loss of speech? But even more importantly, could Korihor have been rehabilitated, physically and spiritually, if he had received the same treatment Alma had received when he had been struck down by God? Wade Greenwood explores the possibilities and what we can learn from t...

Jul 27, 20240

E177: How Caffeine Survived the Word of Wisdom.

A Mormon can’t get a temple recommend if they drink coffee or black tea, but they can get one if they consume energy drinks that have five times as much caffeine as either. Launching from Michael Pollan’s book “Caffeine: How Caffeine Created the Modern World,” Stephen Carter explores the strange limbo caffeine has occupied in in the LDS Church—from general condemnation to apostolic approval. https://sunstone.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/06/SLP-177.mp3...

Jun 19, 20240

E176: The Badness of Goodness.

“When virtues run wild, catastrophe reigns.” In this episode, John Durham Peters reveals the dangers of Mormon perfectionism and suggests a new approach. https://sunstone.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/SLP-176.mp3

May 31, 20240

E175: The World Beyond the Valley.

Esther Peterson was one of the most beloved and effective activists of the 20th century, working with John F. Kennedy, Lyndon B. Johnson, and Jimmy Carter to improve women’s rights in the United States. And she grew up Mormon in Provo, Utah. In this episode, Esther talks about how her Mormon upbringing affected her activism—both for good and ill. https://sunstone.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/SLP-175.mp3

May 21, 20240

E174: One of These Gods is Not Like the Other.

If the Christian God and the Mormon God got into a fight, who would win? In this episode, S. Richard Bellrock shows just just how unfair the fight would be. https://sunstone.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/SLP-174.mp3

May 15, 20240

E173: How Should Mormons Write History?

History is a dangerous profession in the LDS Church, sometimes leading to excommunication. Stephen Carter explores why history is such a charged topic—and what Ethiopian leopards have to do with it. https://sunstone.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/SLP-173.mp3

Apr 29, 20240

E172: What Really Happened When Phineas Got His New Wives?

One fine July Sunday in Relief Society, Deja Earley was asked to share a story about her Mormon ancestors. Her story did not go down well. In this episode, Deja tries to come to terms with her polygamous forebears. https://sunstone.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/SLP-172.mp3

Apr 09, 20240

E171: The Movie that Turns Easter on its Head.

Testimony meeting would be a terrible place for Stephen Carter to talk about the movie that finally made him feel a connection to the atonement. Hint: It has connections to Lord of the Rings, Avatar, and Run Lola Run. https://sunstone.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/SLP-171.mp3

Mar 27, 20240

E169: Where Do We Go From Here? Part II

In Part II of Gregory Prince’s article, he explores what he thinks the LDS Church has done right and what kinds of changes both it and its members will need to go through to meet current and future challenges. https://sunstone.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/SLP-169.mp3

Feb 28, 20240
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