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We have great episode coming up for you. We have some callers calling in who are actually dating during quarantined. They're they're setting up FaceTime Zoom meetings. They're really taking a proactive approach to the entire self isolating dating world, and I enjoy it. I'm excited to hear stories about them. We have a story about a new dating app coming up, which is a video dating app, which is obviously very right now because that's all anybody can do. But Dean,

how are you doing? First of all, happy belated birthday buddy. Thanks man, I appreciate it. Hey, I have a question for you because you mentioned it at the beginning. You mentioned that your in laws, I know a lot of people don't like their in laws, but you don't seem to have any issue with you is do you think that you're an anomaly in that sense? Well, I just have incredible in laws. And I was obviously joking earlier saying that you know everything's going well because we're all

still alive, which is all factual but also dramatic. Um, but no, I love my in laws. Ashley's parents are the sweetest, most incredible people. Jane Audrey. Jay is actually anesthegiologist. You guys probably know that he works at the hospital, so he's quarantined still in the basement. Um. And uh, his Ashley's mom, Audrey is just the sweetest, most welcoming person and and uh she's the mother, and she's the type of mom who will constantly ask if you needed anything.

You know. I feel like, as far as Hollywood is concerned, you're supposed to like despise you in laws, but you like love them. That's great. I know, it's the complete opposite of monster in law I have. I have angel and laws. Um. I'm also quarantined at their house, so I can't really say anything bad about them, So you know, you can look into my eyes and find out if I'm telling you the truth. Unfortunately our listeners can't because

they listen to audio. But in all honestly, i couldn't ask for better in laws, and I'm very glad that we're we're here. There's more room, like we've talked about. So it's it's it's really nice. Um your parents in the quarantine started, No, No, I mean I haven't seen them since New Year's so it's uh, it's just obviously for everybody's own safety because even when this thing lifts,

you know, we're gonna stay stay. You know, even if I do travel to Rhode Island at some point May or June, you know, I'm gonna abide by social distancing and make sure I don't care within six ft of them. It's crazy though, like, have you guys, so have you had any like interactions with people but six ft away? Have you had any hangouts but you've been staying away? Just zoom stuff because physical stuff, no nothing, just just

all zooms. Because the reason I bring this up is because yesterday one of Ashley's friends came over outside and we actually she stayed like ten ft away. I made sure that we were at a good distance away, and it was good seeing It was good to have like a social interaction with somebody and just sit down and talk for a while. But it was also difficult because in my head, I couldn't I couldn't focus on the conversation.

All I could think about was if she had COVID nineteen And even if she's ten ft away, am I still catching it? And I'm curious when that's going to subside? And it obviously factors into the dating realm because there's only only so many zoom dates you can go on before you actually have to meet someone in person and have social interaction with them to see if you have chemistry in person, physical chemistry showing and so forth, and

so I don't know, it's interesting. You know, I got a flat tire the other day and I had to have my friend come pick me up, So I guess I kind of you know, I hadn't a choice but to get a little close to thin six ft because I had to sit in his car with him. Did you feel weird at all? No? But all right? Cool? That was it as my first ye interaction other than Kalin in a lot of times, so that was that was pretty nice? Is it is it like a good friend. Yeah,

we're we're good friends. But I mean, the thing was, I was like, Okay, well I could get a tow truck and then get an uber, but then I'm getting in the car of someone that I don't know rather than getting in the car of my friend who I know really well, and you'd possibly be interacting with two people instead of just one, doubling yours. So I figured it was my best option. And you know what, it was a welcome change of scenery, even though obviously we

had a break soles for distancing. It was nice to see him. I didn't hug him, I didn't even give him a high five or anything like that, but but yeah, it was nice. Was that weird? That was why I was asking how close of a friend it is? Because it was it weird to just be like okay, bye, or it's like hard to start a conversation with someone without being like, hey, what's up, and like staying hi and like shaking their hand. You're like a high five or something, you know what I mean? Yeah, no, I

totally agree. I don't know. It's could be an interesting world. But anyway, your birthday last Friday, Happy belated birthday, buddy, How old are you twenty twenty two? Twenty? I'm in my twenties twenty something. Wait, are you actually twenty nine? My exact age is thirty one. Just basically put me on anything Toby Wire is getting, you know, all right, that's fair enough. How was your birthday? Did you? Did you and Kyleen do anything special? Or yeah? Kayleen? Kaylen

knocked out of the park. She made he it was as special of a birthdays I could have possibly had given obviously every that's going on. I woke up in the morning and she had this full custom menu prepared and let me order my breakfast. Gave me breakfast in bed. What did you order? Um? What? I got yogurt and sent fancy and some coffee that she got me in a new mug that she bought for me. What's the bug? It's just like it looks like a camera lens, but you can just put a coffee in it. Oh that's cute,

that's very you. Yeah, it's I've seen it around and I've always kind of wanted one, so it's nice to finally have one. Um what did she do? She uh, got my favorite lunch delivered and she like catered like this, uh this this delivery picnic thing, and they were you know, they were sure to standardize and keep their distance when they came. Because I came into the apartment and set it up basically, which I was kind of I was kind of confused about. I was like, are you sure

we should be doing this? And she goes like she likesured me that it was like safe and that they were following all the precautions. Um. And then I opened my presence. You got me pretty sweet presents. She got me like a go pro that I've always wanted, an air pod case. What else did she get me? An air pod case, a lot of group back from my camera. Yeah, like, you know, like a little case for my AirPods so I can hang out. Very nice. I just thought she got you the case for air pods and didn't get

your air pods. Yeah, she's like halfway there, lose her Oh sorry language Christmas? Um? What else did she get me? A couple other random things? And then she set up a little for in our other room and uh, put up some pixie lights and got a projector and projected my favorite movie on the wall. And what movie? Interstellar? Oh? That's right. We talked about this. Yeah, certainly not a romance, but a great movie regardless, still a love story even though it might not be a romance. Uh, that is true.

It's a story about a yeah, father and daughter in the relationship. But yeah, I hear a movie all time, so it's nice. It was a good as far as we could have what we could have done and couldn't have done for my birthday. I'm glad that. Uh, you know, she definitely wants to great lengths to make it as special as possible, so I'm super appreciative. That is really cute. Good job, Kalen. And how are you guys doing together

during this quarantine? Do you think, because I remember you asked me a question only about a week or two into the quarantine, whether uh, my relationship with Ashley because of the quarantine have gotten worse so far, stayed the same, or gotten better. So I'm gonna ask you now that we're almost six weeks into this thing, since being quarantined with Kalen, do you think that your relationship has gotten worse, stay the same, or gotten better. Um, I would say

it's either stayed the same or gotten better. But yeah, I guess. I mean, we're just starting to lose our minds. Like even the past couple of days, she looks at me like She'll like stopped mid sentence and look at me, and she's like, I just need to travel somewhere. I'm losing my mind. And I'm like, okay, yeah, I know, so am I I just need to go to a coffee bean okay something. Yeah. So, like I think our sanity is slipping away, but our relationship is doing perfectly fine,

you know what I mean. Oh that's really good. Uh. The thing is, it's like one of the nice things about being in the van is I'm not distracted or tempted by things like my Xbox and stuff. And so now that I have access to an Xbox, basically any time of the day I play. I play like five hours of video games to day, and I look back on the day and I'm like, wow, I just place it five hours. But I'm going to do the exact same thing tomorrow and play five more hours of video games,

you know what I mean. So I think like that in and of itself is uh, at least for me, it's like it's making me makes you feel like a piece of Yeah, that's that's, for lack of a better word way to put it, Yeah, that's absolutely. The reason I know that is because I feel the exact same way. There are times where I feel like I'm just not getting anything accomplished. That's why I look forward to this

podcast because it's it's structure. You know, It's like, Okay, from Monday, you know, on Monday, from whatever time, record for two hours. You know, I feel like I'm I'm not. I don't want to say working, because there are people who are essential workers right now, who are doing incredible things that are far more difficult than anything I could

possibly imagine. But it is nice for us to come to this podcast and just be like, Okay, you know this is you know what we have to do on Monday, and it creates some sort of structure and something to look forward to, which I think everybody needs right now.

I just give myself it's like one task to complete every single day, whether it's like I'm helping build some benches in our kitchen, we're doing some stuff in her bedroom, like we're making the bedside tables float, or like whether it's my physical therapy, I just want to make sure I have like an hour of that every single day. So as long as you do like one of those things every single day, I can look back and get Okay, well I got something done today, you know what I mean,

what was your achievement yesterday? Um, I got halfway through building the benches and we finally made it to Home Deeper in order to buy a bunch of stuff, which was a trick because they're obviously practicing social distancing and they're one of those places that's open obviously because they're or central and uh they there's just like lines that like go out the door and wrap around the building, and so it's like you show up and you're like, okay,

well I have to wait that line for twenty minutes before I can give me go inside, and that's spent an hour inside. It's just the whole whole process. So even just go getting up and going to Home Depot was an achievement in and of itself for us. Yeah, we haven't left the house too much over here. We sometimes we'll pick up just to support local restaurants and local businesses and just to you know, do something different.

It's kind of like every you know, we cook for like three or four days straight and then we'll get take out, and it's something that we look forward to, like, oh, let's get take out tonight. Where are we going to get food from? It's very exciting within the Ikenetti household. And and I Connettie Haven household. I guess now because Ashley is technically Haven, which is really weird. Um. But we went to this place the other night. I won't say the place, but they were doing a great job

of social distancing. They had curbside pickups, so the line was outside and every single one of their workers was wearing gloves and masks, which made me feel far more comfortable. And so they came up to take our order. And then this kid was walking out to our car with the bag, and I went to go open the trunk, and for some reason, of course what timing, the trunk was not popping. And so I'm hitting this button like thirty seven thousand times as far as I can, I'm

holding it, I'm pressing it numerous times. It would not pop. And so I knew that if the trunk wasn't opening, this kid was gonna have to open up the back seat, which would bring him closer to us and put it in there and I was with Ashley and my sister and Laura Lauren who's in the back seat. So whatever.

So he's wearing gloves and a mass so he opens the door and puts the food in there in the back seat, and then apparently it was somebody that Lauren, my sister in law, knew, and so she she was like, oh, hey, what's going on. She's like, oh my god, Hey, it's good to see you. So he starts talking to us. Mind you, he's about three ft from us because he

had to put in the back seat. He takes his mask off and starts talking to us, and immediately Ashley just looks at me because she knows I'm going to freak out, and like the conversation, it was like one of those moments where you just don't know what to say because obviously that's not how mass work. You have to keep the mask on in order to not spread the virus, and most likely he has nothing. But it was just more of like, oh my god, please just put your mask on. And I was get out of there.

I know, I was, I yeah, just run him over, but officer, he took his mask off. Um, it was like one of those like comedy sketches that you just can't write somebody you knew yet you haven't seen like twelve years, and we're going through this pandemic and we're taking all these precautions. And then he took his mask off and started talking to us, and it was like, good God. And then we drove off get a phone call from the restaurant and they informed us that he

brought out the wrong bag. Poor kids. So we had to turn around and do this process all over again. But he kept the mask on this time, which is I was very grateful for. That's pretty funny. Hey, I want to get your opinion on something. Shoot, um, So I've been thinking about changing my last name, uh to what I like unclear? I want to change it to So my mother's made a name is Bell. I want to change it to Bell. That's actually really adorable. Is

it really Tory middle name? Yes, it's like family buddy. So okay, So I've been thinking about changing it to Bell to honor my mother. But I texted my brother. I was like, hey, Brad, I'm thinking about changing my last name to Bell. What do you think about it? And he goes, I think it would be really weird. And I was like, Okay, that's not what That's not the reaction I was expecting to get. And so I talked to Klin about it, and Calin thinks it's a

cool idea. And then I texted my my aunts who are my mother's sisters, and they were are like, oh my gosh, it'd be so great of you to do that. We think it'd be fantastic blah blah blah um. And then come to find out my brother's fiancee and she said that when she gets married to my brother, she would prefer to take the last name Belle then to take Ungler. And so I feel like there's a lot of momentum behind the name bell. But I also don't know, uh legal processes and like how that's going to affect

me in long term. But I just want to get your guys opinion on if it's something that, uh, what do you think you would think? Weirdly up, Well, a couple of thoughts. One, I think you'd do it because it will make you and Tori like family. So that's obviously a positive, obviously big plus, big plus that might be reasoning on its own. Yeah, don't tell Klin you had that bonus. Yeah. Uh. And then two, I can't

imagine it's that difficult to change your name. I mean, millions of people do it all the time when they get married, and so I don't know if Ashley actually has legally changed name, which is kind of crazy. Um. But plus, I think Dean Michael Bell sounds pretty cool. Yeah, that's pretty awesome. Dean Michael Bell. That's like a movie star. But then Dean Bell sounds bad. I'd have to start going by my middle name, Dean Michael Bell, not just

Dean Bell, you know, totally. I love people who go by three names or even like, make your name longer. The longer than the name, the more badass you sound like Leonardo DiCaprio. Don't shorten that thing that's not even a real name. I've heard that too. I think really the question for you, Dean, it comes down to how

attached are you to the last name. Angler If you would rather honor your mom by changing your last name to Bell, then I say totally do it, don't you know, Because like, if you'd rather have Bell as your last name to honor your mom, then I don't see anything stopping you unless you are uh like emotionally attached to Angler. Well that's the thing too, is I was texting my brother about it and I was like, yeah, like, I'm not super proud of the name Angler, Like what do

we have to be proud of about the name? And he said, yeah, I agree, but also we can be examples as to what makes the good unlip moving forward. And I was like, yeah, that's cool too. But well, I'm gonna I'll keep you guys posted one way or the other if I decided to take action on that or not. But we have a great episode for you guys today. We are going to call some people who are dating during this quarantine, going on first dates during

this quarantine, which is gonna be spicy. We have a Vivid from the local video dating app, and then we are going to have, for the first time ever in the history of Help I Suck a Dating UH, my girlfriend Jelan Miller keys on the podcast Your Your Girlfriend or Your Wife along with Ashley. Idea, the men will not be present for this part of the episode, so it'll just be the two women UH answering and and discussing amongst themselves. I already have Ashley prepped with questions,

so We're good to go. No worries, Dean, don't worry about it at all. Just leave the rooms the door and don't even give it a second thought. Um. Great. Just remember that Caitlin doesn't like actually that much, so make sure she doesn't prod her too much, otherwise it might separate their relationship altogether. I'm fine with that as long as we get a good episode. Anyway. That's about

the end of the episode. If I was listening to this, I would say, just listen to the first couple of segments, ignore the last part with the with the Caitlin and Ashley. But who am I to decide what you listen to? Come and I'll be sure to stick through this break and we'll get right to everything. Welcome back to help I suck at dating. We have our first caller on the line. Her name is D She's from Costa Mesa. You're twenty nine years old. Hi, D, How are you great.

I'm so happy to be here. We're happy to have you on here. Thank you so much for taking the time. How are you doing during this quarantine? Honestly, I'm doing pretty well. Um. Not a whole lot has changed for me, other than you know, the whole not being able to hang out with humans. It's big part of it though, Yeah, yeah, huge part, you know, But social distancing seems to work for the most part. Um, So, do we heard that you're still dating right now during the self isolating isolation.

You're using Bumble and Hinge and you actually just met up with someone that you were talking to on one of these dating apps. So tell us about that experience. Yeah. So initially, like, I was pretty stoked to be on Bumble and Hinge during this time because I feel like it eliminates a lot of like physical expectations and it just forces you to connect emotionally, which is something we

kind of bypass nowadays in the dating world. But we met up on one of the hiking trails near my house, and um, yeah, it was a little weird because he didn't respect the six feet. I already don't like this guy. Yeah, you respect the six feet, you know. Social distancing, um aspect of it was it rare to the gates, Like he basically met up with you and was came in for a hug or something. Yeah, he came in for a hug and I was like, whoa, you know, I don't know I was fine. That was the rest of

the day. Was it awkward? Did you guys just immediately part ways or did you carry on? No? I carry it on. I was like, you know, he's probably nervous. This is like a really weird, you know time. We probably wasn't aware. It's okay, give three strikes. That was strike number one. I think that that, Yeah, I should have been two strikes. The second strike was when he um got so close to that I could feel his shoulder on mine, and I was like, I'm going to

shove you off this cliff hold. So he got he tried to hug you as soon as he saw you, so he broke the six foot barrier. Then, but then you guys started separating six ft apart and walking, and then he broke the barrier again. Yes, he just really wanted to be near me. I guess. I mean, I guess that's I don't really, but is it weird that I only see that as a deal breaker. I'm like, that's cute. He like wants to like jump in for a hug, Like what didn't any girl kind of want

to feel that way? Breaker? Because in my mind, I was like, okay, if you can't respect like the barrier. Then what are you going to be like after this? Like, are you going to be super clean and got a balid the cleanest? I didn't think about that to all these dark places. If he's willing to break the rules of social distancing, he might be willing to break the rules of monogamy or of chivalry. You know what I mean. I'm just saying it. It doesn't end there in my opinion.

That's why I totally agree you. So, how did the rest of the day go? Then? Are you going to give him a second chance or what do you think? Um? No, oh, I think that's the right decision. Wait, no, hold on, I want to hear Tori's defense of this guy. Packed up. You guys, he we haven't seen human interaction for like almost two months now, you still are so eager to see that person that Like when I see somebody, I still going for the hug and then I had to

catch myself. But if I hug somebody and somebody's like that to strike one, I'd be like, screw you. Like I'm Italian, I'm a hugger. You're racing twenty five years of my life. Let me ask you, this does does your want to hug someone outweigh you possibly getting COVID nineteen. Thank you, Sorry, Now, I don't want to downplay how important this whole time is and staying home is and staying six ft apart is. At the same time, I don't think it should be a ride off because it's

been twenty five years. However old this guy is, maybe he's like thirty eight, forty, we don't know. That's forty years of his life of going in to be nice and kind with a hug. You can't eat raise forty years. I'm projecting that he's forty years old. Okay, so thirty years. You're asking him to delete thirty years of his life

of how he's introduced himself to women, but people. That's that's also called a relationship, you know, because like say you've been single for thirty eight years of your life and then you meet someone that you want to be in a relationship with, you're going to have to erase a lot of your thirty eight years of life with how you interact with different people and flirt and kiss and do all these things. So if he's willing, if he can't contain himself from physical touch on a first date, Like,

what's to say? Do you jump into a relationship with this guy and he sees someone else that he's attracted to and he just can't resist the urge. It seems like a guy who just can't hold his wad, you know, exactly Stage five Clinger all the ways. Well, I was going through my mind, do you have I have a question? So you met this guy on hinge? How did the conversation begin in regards to like going on a hike together.

Was it just one of those things We're like, Okay, we talked enough, let's see, let's just get outside and do something together. How does that? How did that whole work? So we were chatting and then we swapped numbers and then we had a video day actually where we watched the movie together and we just chatted so cute. We had like a um I don't remember because it was just like playing in the background. Care It was like, Wow,

the conversation was that good. It was amazing, It was epic, It was very stimulating, and um, he let's go on in an adventure and absolutely I love being outdoors. Um, but I remember telling him, I was like, we need to respect the six feet barrier. Because I have to go into work. You have to go into work, and I just don't want to risk it. And he's like, absolute, dang, that's crazy that it was going so well too up

until up until that. Huh up until then? Yeah, like three hours of us colliding and me having like a mini panic attack. Oh that sounds like an awful date. Let me ask you, is this gonna make you pause from going on another six foot social distance date in real life with somebody else? No, I'm pretty optimistic. I like your attitude. Get back on that horse. Hell yeah, I say, I say keep it going. I say, keep it going. This guy's great. I don't know, what do

you guys think? See him again? Never again, just to lete his number already did already on a dean Oh man, d I I like your just down. So do you wonder why I'm still single? So you how long have you been on dating apps? Um? About a year? Yeah? And what's your what's your experience with them? What's your

favorite app? Um? I love Bumble because I get to initiate conversation and um, honestly, I really enjoy dating apps because I'm meeting new people, and I enjoy meeting new people, UM and I like that we're becoming more and more creative um as like a generation Like for me, um, you know, I get to go out to museums or on hikes or do a really interesting bar um. And it's almost getting to the point though, where it's hard to commit to one person because there's so many fun options.

So that's kind of like the downside of being on a dating app. You're just constantly aware of what's out there. You feel like you have like ten ongoing conversations too, and you kind of like started like blend together maybe a little bit. Yeah, it gets pretty exhausting, um, and then I feel really guilty. Well, don't You're not doing anything wrong. Yeah, that's true. So I'm sure we're gonna find it. You're gonna find a guy at some point

that's gonna make you delete the apps. You know, he's gonna keep his six feet distance while government mandate, and I think it's all go to workout. It's kind of like have you guys seen that just came out on Netflix? Too Hot to Handle? Yes, I really want to watch that. It's it's pretty, it's like very trashy, but it's entertaining

at least. But that's kind of what this reminds me of, where it's like you're just you know, you're spending time getting to know someone, but you can't have any physical touch with them. So you get to go deeper than that connection than the physical and get to know them on an emotional level, which is cool. It's like a cool way to, uh, to experiment with getting to know someone.

I think, yeah, And I think it's healthy too. I think it takes us back to like our actual human roots, you know, d Was that the worst date you've ever been on? This? This this recent one where the guy just would not abide by social distancing. No, I went on a worst date where someone asked me something really messed up and I got up and left. Can you repeat? Like, you don't have to repeat the question you're gonna want to. But obviously that very much piqued my interest. I want

to know. It's so bad that I want to know what I need to know? Yeah, I can tell you, guys, he set up the date first, Like, how did you do this guy ask you out on the day? And then where'd you guys go? Um? Yeah, he asked me out and we went on a picnic on the beach, and um, I was like, hey, so let's give each other, you know, like those three questions to ask each other. And one of his questions was does my private parts

smell what? Dick? And we were eating fish? Yeah, oh god, that's just from I couldn't even like I thought I was dreaming. I was like, this has to be a nightmare. And I was like I'm gonna go now. So I just got up and left. Good for you. Did you try to apologize at all? Was like no, I'm so sorry. Oh yeah. Then he followed me to my car and then he wouldn't let me get into my car. So then I started to get a little nervous. He's like, well,

at least let me get a kiss. I you know, I bought you a drink, and I was like, get the Was this a public beach? Yeah, okay, so there are people around, because if there's nobody around, I would be really nervous for you. Yeah, there are people around, Like a couple of people are giving me the eye like are you okay? And I was just like I have a rape whistle or I did, and I was like, I'm going to blow my rape whistle if you don't get away from me. What does a rape whistle sound like?

Does it sound like a regular whistle that, No, it sounds like someone's getting raped. Really, it's it's like this high. That's not I don't mean to laugh at that, but I don't know what so it sounds like someone screaming. Yeah, that's terrible. Wow. Even just saying that makes me, it makes my stom return. Yeah. Interesting to take a little bit of a turn. But this is a good thing

to have in our back pocket. Yeah, I'm also this is a good example to to showcase for everybody, especially as a woman, if you're going on a date with a guy, you don't know who you're going on the date with, so go to a public place, especially the first couple of times. And I never let them pick me up at my house. I'm like you there, do you thank you for thank you for coming on sharing your your your dating stories with us. We appreciate it.

I feel like you need to be more of a common occurrence on this podcast because you seem to have some pretty interesting stories with us. Um, yeah, we gotta we gotta get you off and get onto our guest. But best of luck with everything and hopefully that the next guy that you meet on Handbill practice safe social distancing with you. Thank you, thank you, Good luck than care.

Welcome back to the podcast, ladies and gentlemen. We have another guest caller on the line right now who would like to remain anonymous, So we're just going to call her Lacey, and that is not her real name. So lazy, how are you? I am doing good? Oh that's great. So because you're anonymous, I feel like we can ask you juicy your questions. Uh, so lazy, you're dating during this social distancing time? How's that going for you? I

feel like a game shows it's going, you know it's going. Um. So for a little background, a few years back, my friends made me a Bumble account. Um. It was an unsuccessful launch, to say the least. I was not in the time or place, um in my life, um to embark on that journey. Um, but it sounds like some really good friends though they just put you out there. Quality friends. Um. It was completely unwarranted and I had

no idea that they created an account. But you know, um, in the days to find out that I had several hundred matches and my picture was all over the Internet. I was like, I need to take the reins on this. And like I said, you'd several matches in just a few days. That's being humble. Um. But yeah, so you know, quarantine hit. I was born at home a few years to you know, deal with the trauma of the original um, the original incident, and uh, you know, quarantine gave me

a change of heart. So I so I reactivated that by a bad boy and found myself back in navigating the quarantine dating jungle. Okay, and can you we can get some updates? Updates? Yeah? So um day one right out the gates, Uh, found myself a few suitors. Um one standout, I will say, um one standout for sure. Um. I hate to admit this, but the reason why he stood out was because he had a picture of his grandma on the app. And it just like seemed like he was such a gem, Like what a wholesome guy

who puts their grandma on their dating app? Normally people put like exotic animals or other women from high school. And I was like, man, this guy's calling it. He's had his eighty seven year old grandma on There're gonna say like that was his ex girlfriend or something. Like that. That was my That was my intro. That was my that was my joke to lead into like, whoa, you're clearly like older women. I don't know if I'm your type. Um,

that's what got the ball rolling. But you know, um no, it turned out to be his eighties six year old grandmother. Just to ask the boys didn't know what like when you guys put a photo like that, do you know girls are gonna be like this is cute and do that or didn't think They're probably just looking at themselves, probably going to the brownie points like oh, this guy's

a family guy. Also with a picture like that, they're probably thinking like, oh, there's no way in hell that anyone would misinterpret this picture with my grandma that I was dating. Total browning points. Any picture with grandma dogs, uh, anything that like we think women might find cute. Profile, it's absolute strategic peacocking. Tory, Absolutely strategic peacocking. I'm curious, you know what your profile looks like now that Um well there was Actually I didn't change that many pictures,

which is embarrassing. So I only changed a few, so only updated about I think there was an original five um and then made original file and then yeah, I just used about three out of those five and updated two to be more. When was the profile first made by your friends? Said? Okay, so that's not that long ago. It was like twelve or something, when you were like, is a long time ago? Three years? A lot can happen, A lot can happen. You could have been a blonde

then and then now she's a brunette, so much different. Crazy, I guess my point. It's not like she's nineteen in one picture and then another picture you no, how old are you? I'm okay, okay, you look as young as you did when you were in high school. I feel like for the most part, yeah, yeah, I feel like you should update your your profile to say lazy. That's such a you know, I feel like so so overall, so far during the quarantine, have you had any successful

interactions with anyone? Um? So back to Grandma? Okay, uh sooner? Um so yeah, So, you know, we took things off the app. Things were progressing quite quickly, quite positively. I was excited about it. Um later we FaceTime it was it was poor connection, which now thinking back, I'm like, wait, that's weird. You're at your house doing nothing. You have WiFi but whatever didn't didn't second guess it. It was like, oh, bummer, couldn't FaceTime poor connection? Were judging people by their WiFi

connection connection? Absolutely, he has poor WiFi. I cannot date him. No, I will explain as the story continues. So then I was like, I was like, oh, it's okay, Like, maybe let's try another day. No big deal. Um, I just want to see you like you just seem like a good, wholesome dude, like I'm excited. And he was like, yeah, I really want to see you too. Lets zoom tomorrow. So I was like, okay, cool, I'm into it. Let's zoom. Um.

So he insisted on zooming. We zoom. Also be mindful like I'm in quarantine hair and a bun, like hair in a bun. I'm an outdoor girl, not really here to get glammed up for a zoom date, knowing that it could potentially lead to nothing. Don't waste my time on that. So um he insisted zoom next day, we zoom um. He was like glowing, super cute, great guy, good vibes. I was feeling it. I was like, oh

my gosh, this is exciting. Um. So and that Zoom And then a couple of days later, I decided I'm gonna just like sporadic FaceTime and just hit him with it and say, hey, what's up, how's it going, like check in, like I respect it. Yeah, I was just respect it, you know. And in real life that would have been like knocking on his door, which is kind of scary, but you know, FaceTime, it's it's moderate. Um and uh yeah, boy oh boy, was that interesting. Um?

I officially discovered that zoom has like a beauty filter. Oh no, oh yeah, did you have a filter on or did he just get dolled up for the first day? And then you call it like does he were makeup? No? He, I mean things were chiseled and glowing where it hadn't been normally. Um, but yeah, my Prince Charming um was using it. So I was like devastated. I feel like

it wouldn't be that big. I mean, like, I do understand the difference of when we're all using like a subtle filter on Instagram to take a video, like there is quite a difference, Prince, But I feel like it wouldn't change you that much. So why was that a do breaker? No? Um, normally I would not be faced um, but like I said, like, I'm kind of an outdoorsy chick. I don't necessarily care too much about how I look.

I don't really care how other people think I look. Um. But it was really interesting because like I think, maybe I'm just on edge from quarantine and just like really nervous about getting back into the war zone of online dating. And it was just really like I was really on edge and he um and yeah, like knowing that the pool has dating people have expanded now to like all these random people getting on dating apps, I was just

like afraid. And I was like, oh my god, I'm literally stuck in a modern day catfish, and butting how different did he look? Like? Did he have a different jaw, different nose, different jaw, different eyebrows, different, Like it was night and day like this. Then like I remember opening like the FaceTime in his like zoom open, and I'm like whoa, and like I kind of like blinked and like pushed my head back, like who is this? And then I was like, oh, hey, I will send you guys.

My sister she uses this for her work meetings. They have one where they can make you have longer eyelashes with eyeliner and it looks real like she sent a picture and I was like, oh, yeah, I don't know what's great today. She's like, I'm literally using it's called like a snap filter or something, and you could download it on your phone and put it up on your zoom or wherever you're kind of face timing with people through your laptop up, so it looks like you're fully

made up, but you're not. But I feel like that's different than an like a filter that literally can change your facial features. And I think to Lacey's defense too uh not to say that you're shallow or anything like that, but anyone that goes to that to change their appearance for a first FaceTime date, I think there's some underlying thank you, thank you. I completely I was completely caught

off guard. I was like, what are you hiding? Why can't like And the thing is is that his pictures on his app were like a happy medium of both of those people. Okay, wait on the app you saw, does he have pictures up that he looks like two different people? No, he looks like this. He looks consistently like one person that is more aligned with the Zoom person than the FaceTime person. Well, are you gonna line up any more dates with FaceTime or Zoom dates with

this guy? I mean honestly, because he was such a wholesome person. I'm so intrigued, But I'm also I'm on edge. I'm on edge. You should be on edge. We're all on edge. But you know what, You've seen one person you like the you like the Zoom guy, you didn't like the FaceTime guys. So third times a charm. That's going to be the definitive answer for you right there.

They're real in life person guy. Well, well, I'm not saying, well if you see him, you could see him in person, but you have to do like the whole six feet thing, which we had a caller it who just called in and this dude just would not abide by the social distancing, like they agreed to go on this date, stay six ft apart, and he was just not keeping his personal space. He went in for a hug. Wow, that's I love it.

I don't think I don't. You're insane. Story. There is a lady in front of Trader Joe's yesterday that had a sign that said free hugs, and I was like, Wow, that is awesome. It's very sweet but also quite terrifying. So have you been have you been doing a lot of face time dates? Know? That was that was the first and I don't want to say it's the last,

because you know, never say never. Don't give up. Hey, Lacy, the guest on our podcast today is the creator of an app called Loco that allows you to have video conferencing first dates with whomever you're interested in. I suggest maybe give Loco a try. Loco All right, yeah, check it out. I'm penciling that in. Yeah, that was worth Make sure it's in pen make that make sure it's you know, permanent. Thank you for sharing your story with us. We wish you better of luck moving forward during the

Quarantine Daily Chronicles. Um, if anything interesting happens, please alert Tory and we can have you on next week. For the following weeks as well, just slide into my d M s. We always want updates on all these absolutely absolutely all right, thank you, take care of time you guys. Than by welcome back to the podcast. We have very special guests who is currently on the line with us. Uh. He is the creator of the new dating app called Loco. His name is Vivic, Jane Vivic. Thank you so much

for joining us. Hey, thanks for having me. Guys appreciate it. No, of course, Vivic. So first of all, how are you doing during this quarantine? You? Uh, you have a couple of kids. Uh so are you quarantine at home? How are they treating you? Hopefully? Good? Yeah? Man, yeah, man, I mean everything is good. I think the best way to put is, I'm keeping my sanity. We've got. Yeah, I've got two kids and I'm trying to play teacher and keep them busy and do all my work and everything.

But it's good. I mean there is a positive side of this where you get to, you know, you have all this family time and quality time. So it's it's all all all, it's pretty good. And so, Vic, you're an entrepreneur and you actually just partner up with comedian Norm McDonald on a new dating app called Loco. Can you tell us a little a bit about that? Yeah? Sure, So it's, um, it's fully video based. As far as we know, we're the only fully video based dating app

on the market. Thinks zoom but for online dating. So the I mean, the idea behind it was to look at what the dating apps out there now are and the pitfalls of them. Um, I think all of us have heard stories about, uh, you know how dating culture now is a kind of moved to the direction that's not always favorable for everybody. We kind of poked it all the all the holes and try to come up

with something that solves them. And you know, videos seem to be the best fit for all those things, you know, like the cat fishing, the fake profiles, the you know, making real connections with people and all these kinds of things. That's kind of why I went down this whole video side. So all the profiles are video, there's no static photos, and the only method to communicate is through video chat.

So we've taken we've taken out this this texting so you can get get a sense of the real personality is behind the person and and you know, build the story in your head that's more authentic as opposed to, you know what, what you believe through static photos and texting and and all the other things. You're a man ahead of your time, because who would have known that during the months of March and April all the dating would be occurring via video zoom face timing. And now

we have an app that just does video. Now you guys do it's like an eight second hello, which is mandatory for every profile. I tried signing up, but I'm married, and so if my wife or anybody saw me on a dating app, I think that would just be bad news and I would have to explain myself out of that situation, which I'm very I'm not good at explaining once I'm back into a corner. Um. So, but it's like, so you sign up and then you have to create

a profile, just like any other one. And in the profile, there's an eight second video like of you saying hello and introducing yourself, and then I see that there's like a voluntarial uh, a voluntari al. I don't know if I'm saying that properly. I'm lost. But you have to like also do a thirty second um about me where

you just talk about yourself a little bit um. And so I like the aspect of like putting yourself on video really because then like you get to, like you said, you get to see the personality, the person's characteristics, their inflection, what they're like. Yeah, absolutely, I mean I think I think you can. There's only so much you can get

from static photos. And you know, I think I think that's that's one of the biggest problem lies when you go in that first date and you know a hundred it seems like they're you know, massive sales because you build the story in your head of who you think they are as opposed to who they actually are. But like you said, you get hear the sound of their voice, there, their smile, the swagger, which is um you know, just as important as the you know, the outright looks of

a person and uh, and that that initial attraction. So this way, you know, when you do get it out on the first date, whenever all this quarantine breaks and you see them face to face, you know there's a better chance that there's there's gonna be a connection. And actually, on that week before we set everything up, we talked to a behavioral scientists and they said it takes eight minutes of actually looking at a person and conversing with them to figure out what you actually have a connection

with them. So this, you know, you get that initial eight minutes and um um through a video chat. So by the time you get out there and meet there's a better chance you're gonna have an enjoyable first date, regardless of whether it leads to a long term relationship or not. I have a question. So a lot of the dating apps that are out there, uh, it's pretty the barrier to entry is pretty small, right, So what is it like for your app because it's solely video based?

What does the user have to do in order to get like approved and then get their profile up? Is it a different process you need to typically see? Oh yeah, yeah, great questions. So, I mean obviously with video there's, um, there's some things that can can make the user experience less less than enjoyable. So what we've got there's a human moderating every video that comes in before they go live, and then it's also built an artificial intells to screen

out nudity into any sort of adult content. So so what that's that's really the barrier to entry. And you know, this is what we've learned, is there's you know, it's easy to put up a status photo. It takes some effort to put yourself out there and put a video on.

So you know, we we do have we get some people who just taking pictures of the ceiling and whatnot that we have to we those no one else sees them, but that it goes to show you if you're willing to put a quality profile and you're probably more serious about the whole process and a better chance of being a better quality date down the road. Can you upload like a Snapchat video with a filter on it? Yeah? Yeah, absolutely so. Yeah, we've got lots of TikTok videos and

Snapchat filters and and all that kind of stuff. I mean, our rules are pretty loose. At the end of the day, we've got to clearly see your face, um, and after that it's pretty pretty fair game. So yeah, absolutely, we've got lots of custom content that comes through what happens when two people match. Because I was reading up on this and you guys kind of put like a time limit on on how long you can actually meet up

with someone. Yeah, so so it's, um, it's how it technically works and how we've ironed it out so work during these quarantine times a little bit different. So how it works in normal times as yet, you have twenty four hours and then that's twenty to set up a video date, um, and then if you want to extend it you can do that through a paywall. Um. Right now, we just opened it up, so I mean they stay

as long as um, as long as you've matched. Uh. And then there's also a cap on the video chat, so it's the chat itself has capped a fifteen minuts and that's again there's a paywall to extend it. But the hope is that once you've unbuild the person through video, you're more comfortable with them. Um. And and the idea is to push people to meet in real life. So obviously during this time, we've eliminated the cap and you

cannot be a video chat for as long as you want. Um. But yeah, the idea, I mean it goes back to that whole eight minutes of having, you know, figuring out what you have a meaningful connection with someone. So we figured, if we give you a fifteen minutes on video chat, you're not gonna be afraid to meet in person because now you know who who you're gonna see at the other end when you when you meet face to face,

and uh, you're you're more likely to do that. And if it's you know, you know, you can exchange numbers by then and your cat chat text whatever you like outside of the APT So do you guys, unlocal have any type of messaging or is it all done through video? Now it's all done through It's all done through video. We have plans to add video just text messaging down

the road. But the idea was we're doing something that's gonna take some getting used to, you know, like I go back to and plenty of first Fish first came on on the scene, people were so afraid to put up a static photo that you know, most of them would have no photos or the back of their head or something. So we think, you know, we're just kind

of in that stage. We're getting people comfortable video, and this whole quarantine has made people a lot more comfortable in a hurry, So we don't we don't want to give people the option to go back to the roots that can comfortable with. We want to try something new. We think this is a better alternative, and the only way they're gonna try it is if you can't don't have that crutch to go text and and throw up

a static photo. Yeah. I like that your app drives people to meet in real life because I feel like a lot of dating apps, unfortunately, you can connect with people on the app, but then a real date never get set up. Um, so I I really liked that about this app, and then can you tell the story about how you created the app? Because I read it and it's really cute. Sure, So I've mean, I've been

the single parent for a long time now. So my my babies were four and one when when I first became still there and they're now eleven and eight, almost twelve and nine. So uh, you know, when I had, you know, being an entrepreneur, So I'm busy with that and obviously haven't young kids pretty busy, So dating has been, uh unfortunately the second priority for a long time now. So we're watching a movie. We have our regular movie nights with my little kiddos, and my youngest daughter goes

to me. She goes, day Daddy, Like, who takes care of you? Like you take care of me and my sister all the time. You should get a girlfriend. So whatever my friends tell me, you know, tell me to go dat and all those kind of stuff all the time and kind of in when you're out the other ones, your friends. But man, with your kids, you take stock of your life. When they started saying stuff like that, they're not supposed to know that kind of stuff. So

so I I uh. After some soul searching, I decided to go out and try some of these apps that are out there, and then I thought about just writing a book about my horror stories that came from that probably would have made more money than this app ever will. But um, if it just didn't work for me, especially I and and don't get me wrong, those other apps work for a lot of people, but there's a place

for them. But I think for you know, someone at my stage in life and how busy I am, I needed something that you kind of we read out those bad first dates that they would muld be like a part time job for me. Yeah, that's that's in it in a nutshell. Love it and vivic. For the listeners out there that are interested in giving Loco a shot, they can download it on their iPhones. I'm assuming androids too. Yeah, you bet you at Google Play or or the Apple

app Store. It's it's to be able for everyone. That's awesome. And they just type loco right, just local into the search bar and you bet you l o kay oh dating and it will come up. If you're listening to this and you want to give Loco a try. I think it's cool. I think the fact that you can talk to people to be a video rather than just the messages because messages are so impersonal. So uh, if you want to give this video dating Apple, try check out Loco in the app store and Vivic. Thank you

so much for joining us. We appreciate it and and best of luck with everything. Thank you, all right, thanks man, appreciate it. Guys, All right, take care, take care. Hey guys, it's Ashley on Jared's Mike, and it's Kaylin and Jean's Mike, and we are going to go through some questions that you guys have sent into the guys. So this is from Katie. She said, is being in quarantine with your partner helping or hurting your relationship? And my answer is

I think it's neutral. I don't think it's really doing much. Yeah, I can agree with that. I think I don't know. In some ways we're like getting closer together, but in other other ways we're living together NonStop and we're never apart, so we're kind of driving each other crazy. Um, but it's not bad. Like we we've got our separate rooms and we've figured out okay, Like no, I'm sick of you. So let's like be separate for a couple of hours. Okay, so I need to know because you guys look so

lovely dove on Instagram. That's just one part of your relationship, right, So, like you guys are in love, you devy and happy all the time, because you make me scared that like I should be like that, and I that's yeah, that's unfortunate that I'm making it look like that. But it's like, I don't know. I guess I don't post this stuff when we're like arguing it taking at each other. But I see other couples and I'm like trapped, like they're

so in love. And and then we definitely have our times where like for three hours, he'll be in the living room and I'll be in the second bedroom, just like working and doing our separate things. Okay, good, that makes me feel better because people said the same thing about me and Jared. They're like, oh my god, the most fun quarantine ever. You guys are just recreating chick flicks and your love is so intense, and I just

want to find this one day. I'm like, you should totally want to find it one day, just letting you know that, Like we fight over the edit of these videos. It's like they're fun when we're doing them, and then we'll like a goat on the computer and I'll be like, Jared, I don't really like the fact that you use And then he'll be like, and you can just see that he gets like he really doesn't like criticisms, criticism, like

he can't take it. Well. I'd be like if somebody said to me, I don't like that a fact, can you edit it out to see what it looks like? Otherwise I I think I'd be like, Okay, yeah, I worked at I like it's going to take a minute, just hold on. But then he just makes it seem like you offended his soul. Yes, so we're kind of like our arguments are about furnituring now and like it's ben a ficture and and you know we've got different ideas. And yeah, I'm jumping in. I'm so sorry jumping on

the girl chat. But Kelan, I need to know your latest post about you almost buying these benches but Dean said I can make them cheaper and now you've been to home depot three times that was on his story. I need to know the details and how are you not losing it on him or are you? I mean, we've both just been lazy, so I'm partially to Blaine, but they were like twelve benches and he's like, oh my gosh, I'll make these. And so today I think we're finally, hopefully gonna finish them. When I say we,

he will finish them. Um, but we're like losing our mind because we have no furniture. We have a bed and a cow and that's literally it. So we're like eating on the floor every every single meal. Um, So it'll be nice to have these benches built. But I'm so sorry to ask you to follow up. I feel like everybody dates the guy that thinks he can be the home guy, the guy that fixed anything, that can

make anything. And it's really annoying because you're like, just let me buy my freaking benches and let's just call it a day. So it's not a stress stressor in our relationship. So like, how are you keeping calm? How are you being patient? I would be probably irritated. I'd be like, screw it, where's my credit card, I'm buying it? But like you're being very patient with this. How we's

gotten to that point? It's if we had all of our furniture and it was like just lying on him in his building, then I would be like screw it, um. But the fact that we have nothing, I'm like, just take your time, because relating on the floor, it's like, doesn't make a difference. So I have this thing that when like I start a project, I need to finish

it now. Like so like home decorating, if I just moved into a new place, like it's got to be done within a month, and like even a month makes me really stressed out because I'm like, I feel like I can't consider my home my home if it's not

all put together. So Jared he'll be like, oh, I can do that, like I'll make it, or like I'll bolt that to the wall or you know, I'll hang that stuff up and and then like it will be a couple of days, and I don't want to be naggy, and I'll remind him and then he'll be like, I'm

gonna get to it soon. I'm like, okay, but see, like I could have just hired a task garb it for a hundred dollars and it would have been done, and then like my peace of mind is worth that amount, and then it's also worth the amount because I know you're gonna get annoyed when I get extra naggy, So it's just can you freaking do it now or let me hire someone m H. And I realized, like during this quarantine that I'm the type of person to be like, are you gonna do this? Are you gonna do this?

Are you gonna do it? Not Arena? And I'm like trying to refrain. So I think this is where I'm practicing my patients and just being like, Okay, it'll get done, Like, don't nag him, It's okay, you gotta live together, maybe like three more months. I have been told that I've been doing the same thing. And I always thought I was going to be that cool girl who never nagged. But maybe it's not us. Maybe it's because they never

do it when they're asked. He said the other day. Um, I was like, he's like, you're being really naggy, and I was like, isn't that what wives are for? And then um, I don't know, and then he and I was like, and maybe I'm being naggy because you never do it, and he's like, well, he isn't being stubborn. What husbands are for? I'm like, all right, let's get to another question. Um this girl. This is from Isabelle.

She said, So, I was supposed to go to New York City for spring break or my friend lived, and she's gonna set me up on a blind date with one of her friends. Clearly, Corona hit did not go anywhere. I really wanted to meet this guy because honestly, I was getting tired of all the guys I know in Miami. She never told me the name of the guy, so it was a full surprise. But yesterday I made her tell me the name just so I can go and see him. Um into my surprise. He's so hot. What

should I do? Slide into his d ms? I mean, yeah, why not? You don't have to email us, isabel Sorry, Isabella, you just go slide to his dams and tell your friend, Hey, can you let him know that I slid into his dams? Yeah? And then they'll be zooming every night. Yeah, exactly. Do you find I know it's been a while for both of us, but do you find it awkward that somebody would have their first conversation via like a computer screen? Yeah?

I mean, prior to Dean and like the Bachelor, I was on those stupid apps until like, I would do the app thing and would you like be on like would you have a first date via FaceTime or zoom? No, that's super strange. It makes me feel really awkward. My ex he lived in Japan and we met for the first time. I've our first date was in Japan, so like, I flew there to meet him, So you didn't meet him via face to face online? Yeah, FaceTime and then look at that you did it, so you're fine at it.

I think I would be horrible because I need like body language and I need to see like a glimmer in the eye. I need an environment around me to talk about I don't know. I feel like I'd be so awkward meeting for somebody on the for the first time via screen. It's so strange. This girl is okay. This girl's Catherine, she said. I'm twenty seven years old and almost twenty eight, and I have been out of

the dating world for quite some time. During this quarantine time, I have had a lot of time to to think, and I finally decided to give dating appsle more try. I'm usually against them and I have never used them before. Um, with that being said, I have no clue what apps to use. If you could give me some advice on what apps to use, that would be great, and how to start the conversation that would also be great. I'm

typically very shy. Well, Jared and I do have a sponsorship with plenty of Fish, so I think it's a great, great dating site. I also I also think that my sister in law and my sister in law and brother in law met on the site, so we have a very close relationship to plenty of Fish and uh they have. I really like the way that they have this the

profile set up. You can add so much information about yourself, and I think it's probably because it started out as a website and then turned over into an app that they took all the information that you added to the website into the app. Caitlin, what it was your favorite dating app when you used to use them? I was trying to think of the name. It's like, it's not Tinder, Bumble, any of those. The League. I was never on the League, but I liked the idea of the League because they

were like all people with jobs. Yeah, they were like people who really had their together. Oh nice, Well that's a good one. Um. It was like the one where you really are detailed and there's like, I don't know, like five or six different things that you can start a conversation about because it's like so detailed, I have no idea that is it? My god, what is it called? Or name some of those dating what apps? Hinge Bagels?

Oh Hinge? We're both talking about Hinge? Yes, I loved Hinge because they had those weird questions and then you put your answer and then we're just they were the best conversation starters. Yeah, Like that's the easiest way because otherwise it's like, oh, you're attractive, Like how do you start a conversation? So I think that it started off with humor. Never, in my advice opinion, start with hey,

what's up? Hey, how you doing? Hey? What are you doing? No, those are so boring because when people are sitting there about to answer what are they doing right now? What are they up to? They're up to going through their online dating app. That's what they're doing, so terrible. What do you think is the best way to start a conversation on there? I'm trying to like really dig deep and think what I did. I only went on one hinge date and it was we had like a date

after that, but it was just terrible. Um, he found out I was a Christian and started like throwing the Bible at me and I was like, I'm not into this. Um oh my gosh, he started throwing it. I mean as in like he was trying to like say, deny this, deny, like this doesn't make sense. It doesn't make sense. We would be like in a conversation and then he would just be like, oh well, Matthew says like but um,

I don't know. It was just like in very inappropriate times and like just super weird, super out of place. Like I don't remember specific details, but I remember being like why, Like I get that you're a Christian and I am too, and that's awesome, but you don't need to like try and keep me around this way. I have a follow up question for Kalin, just because I

feel like a lot of girls can relate to this. Um, do you feel like, looking back at his profile you saw any red flags of that or was that something you had completely learned by being face to face, or like what should we be looking out for? I think he looked like a great guy from the start, and like the first date was okay, but there were no sparks and I was like, but like I'm bored and I lived in Charlotte and I don't know anyone, and

so I went on another date. Um, but yeah, like no real red flags, but obviously look for like the douchy photos and like the you know, like the shirt list picks, and I don't know, I think there's like easy to spot red flags. Yeah, I agree, how many shirt list picks is too many? More than one? I think when one even like, yeah, more than one? Probably? Um, you want to hear my worst online dating app date? I think it may have been ry Were you ever on Riya? Riya? I went on one Ria date as well.

Yeah was that okay? How was it? Um? The second date he started talking about like kids in marriage and it's just that okay? So I went on a ray A date. The guy was an actor. He like plays the quarterback and like D list movies, a couple of dealst movies, Like he's playing the quarterback. This is like a trend of his. And we met down the street from my apartment and he was very insistent, was really annoying because I was like, all just in bed Friday

night was like chilling, We're gonna watch TV shows. And then I was swiping on Riya and then I match with him and I and he starts talking to me immediately and he's like, what are you doing right now? What are you doing tonight? And I was like, oh, you know what I'm in for the night, like just kind of relaxing. And he was like, no, meet me here in an hour, like let's just do this. Let's just meet and I'm like, oh my god, this guy is freaking annoying already because he's trying to take me

out of my comfort zone. And then and I was like, and I just love a night in and now he's probably too much of an extrovert for me. And but the guy ended up calling me like we're messaging and then he calls me. He's like, I'm going to meet you here, come on, let's do it. And I was peer pressured into it and I was like, okay, fine, well I can walk there and I'll just throw on really quick makeup. We get there and he was really hot and I we had a really nice hour long

conversation until the second hour of the day. He randomly he goes, so like, when was the last time you kissed? I think you did you say kiss to gay? And I was like, I was like, I don't know, like two months ago. And then he was like, what was the last time you um oral? Because I was ish, um yeah, And I think I was just so embarrassed. I think it was I was so like taken aback and didn't know how to answer the question that I had literally told him and I'm so embarrassed to say that.

And every time I retell the story, I'm usually not honest about that part, but obviously we're honest right here about it. And then he goes, what was the last time you were laid? He goes were you were laid? And I go, okay, um, I'm gonna go now. Was just making me feel really uncomfortable, like I don't know how you're asking me this like two hours to knowing me. And then I walked home. What you walked home? Yeah?

I know, right, Well, we were literally like an eighth of a mile from my place at this point because we're like walking towards We weren't walking towards my place with intention, but like we're just taking a walk and we happen to get closer. Yeah, isn't it crazy? It's my boggling to me? Can I ask for one more? You guys? I love this Okay. I never get girl talk on this podcast. And I also feel like that last story Ash is like so relatable. It's probably so

many girls right now. Um. I have a lot of friends who are like online dating for uh like un hinge right now and bumble, And I guess because you can't really meet in person, a lot of people are asking for like send me pictures of your body, like how tall are you? Like all that stuff. So they're kind of almost going like too far with it because they can't meet up in person. It's kind of a weird right now. That's kind of like I'm too hot to handle. Who's been about to say that you've been

watching kin you finished it in two days? Okay, So yeah, I'm gonna right now. Um, we have people on my podcast and I don't get it. Um, so I need to finish watching with the next day or so. But I was going to finish watching either way, of course. But the thing is about that show. I'm so mind boggled. Once again by how the people are so sexually charged. Oh my gosh, I started wondering, Am I the weird one? Do you people want sex this bad? I'm like peering

over at Gina. I'm like, is this this isn't how you think? They must have found some very special people, because it's bizarre how they are like twenty four hours in and thinking about relieving themselves and the fact that there's like a hundred thousand on the line and they're still like, no, it's possibly not worth it. Yeah, what like I have to I have to have sex at the wall? I'm like, what is going on? It's been two days? Yeah, so tor that goes back to like

the sex thing on the apps or whatnot. It's just like, you guys just calm down, just relax. Have you guys try to get creative? Yeah? Have you guys ever sexted before? I don't know if you want to talk about it or not. But then kind of curious on how much that's going on right now? Have I sent to lingerie pick well, I mean not including my husband. I sent in my lifetime three guys laingerie pictures, but like they were very tasteful, like boudoir you know, yeah, like twice

in my life. Yeah, yeah, twice. Do you ever regret it or did you guys like feel like okay about that, like it was kind of empowering or do you kind of look back in like cringe, cringe for sure, cringe for sure. Um there's one of them. I forgot until this conversation. One of them. I thought like, oh, you were seeking at tension in the moment I was really young, and then the well what I mean really young and Ashley I years I think I was twenty three, um,

which is like Caitlin's ah now getting right? Yeah okay, and then um, and then one of them I look back on pretty proudly. I was like, damn, I was good and he reacted exactly the way I wanted him to. Jared likes them too, I like, need to spice it up more. But like we were together all the time, so I can't be like I just took this and I sent it to your phone the flight upstairs. That would be hilarious and like come down to the bedroom in my parents house. I'm wearing this the other day.

I mean, like Jared, I don't know, I just feel like we probably shouldn't do anything dirty, you know, in the parents house. We've been here for like six weeks, right, so I just don't I don't know, I just don't think it's very We both feel a little uncomfortable. But the other day I were lingerate in bed just so he could look at me and like, remember what it looks like. He's like very he's like very sexy. Your dad's in like literally the next room. So but I

appreciate it, all right, that's my steel. I've been heaven with this conversation. So true. I'm like so many like my sister and brother in law are living with my parents were now we're in their house, and I'm like, I know it's kind of way to think about, like miss siblings, but you know, you're just kind of like, how are all the couples like handling being with the parents right now? Where do you find time? What do you think that your sister and brother in law are doing?

Do you think that they're doing doing? No, I think for sure, in the shower or something that's even more obvious than when the parents go to bed, But we're not like paying attention to it, like, oh they're bout downstairs, Oh they're both downstairs in the shower. Okay, if Jared and I were like both in my childhood bedroom and then we were both in the bathroom, and there would be pretty weird Kalen to wrap up, is it far more romantic and sexy at your house? No? No, not

even Oh wait that tent. I think I'm going to recreate the tent too. But now they're sitting here in front of me, and it's not a little protector lights a tent. It's like movies and watch TV all day long, but just in a different setup, and like goes you're set up. It was nice, nice, Yeah, it's super cozy. It makes it feel like a date versus like just watching TV in the same room as usual. And we felt like kids, Like you're like laying the fort and I was like, this is so fun. I feel like

a little kid, just like building forts so cute. Did you use like a stick in the middle because how is it standing? So well? It was the most fressurting thing. We don't have furniture. You build forts with furniture, and so I had a creative and use like tripods are you know I was going to say the vacuum m Yeah, it's so frustrating. All right, well this is all because I feel very at ease with Kayalen. For some reason. I feel like I will never i'm around her. I'm like, no,

I don't know, I don't know. You're very easy to talk to to already you feel the same. I mean, I just need you, guys to come back. This is so fun. Alright, thie guys, that was fun. Follow help by suck at Dating on I Heart Radio or wherever you listen to podcast