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and they're both incredibly insightful. We got a great episode for everyone today. We are going to be talking with Tasia Adams, one of our recurring wonderful guests. Later on in the show, Jared also discovered a few interesting articles regarding the novel Coronavirus that I think he wants to run over with us as well. Jared, what do you got? Hello, Dean? How are you? Oh? I'm so sorry. I didn't even ask how you are. I'm great, Thank you so much for you don't have to Oh no, no, I didn't

mean it that way. My bad. That came off. I was just saying hello as if like, how are you? Because you're recording from your van and so you're like back in van life. Now. Can you see me glistening? Because I know I'm sweating right now. I got the fan on full blast, but it's not helping too much.

How's your like feeling? It's funny you ask, because I just right before filming recording this podcast, I walked into a gas station to get some ice cold water, and I was limping the whole time because it's just I went on like a long hike today and it's just really painful now. But other than that's good. Do you wear a mask on the hike now? I didn't not the hike the when you went to the gas station? Oh, I wear a mask. I actually hiked with a mask

yesterday too. I I definitely wear the mask more often than not. It's funny too, because I don't want to take away from your your your article you want to get to, but I just want to share this real quick. Is I've been kind of driving around a little bit lately.

Like you know, I saw my brother in South Dakota, uh, and now I'm in Utah and I've been driving through these states like Utah, Wyoming, South Dakota, and no one seems to care about coronavirus, Like, especially in Los Angeles, I feel like we're, um, we we are being much more protective and I guess I don't know the word but safe than from what I've experienced other parts of the country where you know, I walked into a gas station like a week ago, and there was like a

like a twelve year old baseball team, like just finished playing a baseball game. None of them are wearing masks. They're all like high five in and like hugging and stuff. And I was like this, it was kind of crazy to see how the rest of the not the rest, but other parts of the country are handling the situation. Yeah, that sounds terrifying. It is crazy. Uh. And there is one article that I really want to talk about where it talks about having sex with someone while wearing a mask.

And before before we dive into that one, I just want to say, uh, because of everything that's going on in the world right now, we're gonna be talking about uh, current events and our thoughts on it because it's a conversation we want to continue having from last week's pod cast, but we also want to talk about dating topics as well, because we're dating podcasts and so we just want to make sure that everybody knows that this isn't us telling

you what we think is important. It's more of just a production decision that we want to talk about dating as well, because after all, we are help. I suck at dating, which is interesting that the name came from Dean. It's so funny, Dean, that everybody thought you sucked at dating. You don't suck at dating. I definitely suck at dating. Yeah, I don't know anyway. So there's a there's a couple.

One article caught my eye. It's from The Independent, and so it's titled Couples should have sex wearing a mask to reduce risk of transmitting coronavirus. Study suggests, first of all, what are your thoughts, Dean about wearing a master and sex. It's gotta be the dumbest thing I've ever heard in my life, And so I kind of a great Couples should have sex while wearing face master reduced the risk

of transmitting COVID nineteen to one another. On May, researchers at Harvard published a study in the Urnal of Anals of Internal Medicine on the safest ways to have sex during the coronavirus outbreak. On Monday, new laws were implemented in England that made it illegal for couples who live in different homes to have sex indoors and stay overnight. That I find really unfair. So you're telling me that

if you're single right now, you're lonely. Uh, You're you're you're probably in a depressed state because you don't have any human interaction. You've been quarantined for three months. There's a lot of things that are happening in the world that are overwhelming. Dean. What are your thoughts about making it illegal for someone to have and not be able to have sex, uh with someone who's not in their house. Well,

a couple of things. If you if you read the fine print of that article that you just shared, at least the way that you ordered, it said it's illegal to have sex indoors with someone from another household, which means all you gotta do is go outside and have sex outside somewhere about it being bought a boom, You cheat the system. You're still getting the thing that you want most. Yeah, just go to the world, have a

quickie behind the tree, and you'll be fine. Exactly. I don't know, I don't understand how you could put a police that just it's I just don't understand how that can be policed. Like they catch someone on the on the Walk of Shame home or something like that, and they're like, hey, what were you doing? Uh, and they do like a a vaginal swab or something. You just had sex. You're going to prison because that's against the law.

I just don't understand. I think that's crazy. I don't understand the masks while having sex either, because like you're already in close proximity, your mucous membranes down stairs are interacting with one another. Uh, it doesn't matter what's a masking to do. You're gonna not breathe on each other, but you're still interacting in ways that are able to

transfer the virus. I don't want to call Harvard stupid because it's Harvard, but that article is stupid and it doesn't make sense to me, and because of that, I rebuke it as fact. Yeah, man, there's gonna come a point throughout this entire thing where Austin as human beings, we're just gonna have to start taking Its going to be an early wave of adopters in a late wave of adopters for that, and you can already kind of see it happening where it's like people are slowly going

back to their normal life. Going to the beach is more, meeting up with small groups of friends, just going outside more I'm driving, um, Whereas for the two months prior, I was, you know, self conquarantined with Kalin in the apartment and in Los Angeles. So I think you just get like a way of early adopters that are willing to i don't know, like risk it but not really risk it, but then also have to handle the social

repercussions of it. Um. Like for me, for instance, in my van, I actually kind of went back and forth a lot about this because so my brother was rock climbing in South Dakota a few weeks ago, while the same week that he was supposed to be having his wedding down in Mexico, and I was like, well, I really want to see my brother and his fiance, especially during this time whether they're supposed to be getting married, but is it appropriate for me to be tryed raveling

that far? And I was like okay, yeah, Like I'm in my van. There's literally no difference for me taking my van from l A to South Dakota as it is staying in the apartment with Kaylin, Like I'm still the only interaction of having with people are in the grocery store when I go to get the food that we're going to prepare in the van, or at the gas station when I'm filling up, which I don't even interact with people. So it's like my my interpersonal interaction

is still the same, if not less. I would say when I'm driving in on the road, like I've been on the road for two and a half three weeks now, when I have been in isolation by myself for the past week, and I like I try to avoid people, whereas back home I would like hang out with a friend everyone like once a week, or um go for a walk where I'm passing by people in Los Angeles.

So it's like, I don't know, there's gonna be early adoptors and light adoptors in my opinion, Jared, what do you think I was surprised to hear you say something like that, because if I had a guess, I would think that you're gonna be a late adopter. No, I'm just trying to give this thing with common sense. I take coronavirus very seriously. I wear a mask everywhere I go. I tried to avoid crowds. Um. I always try to

stay outside most of the time. Um like, um, you know, we had a friend come over and we had a

fire outside and they stay. It was it was truly didn't feeling differently because they were six ft away and we were outside and listen, at some point, we're just gonna have to start going back to normal life, Like we can't what you're supposed to tell someone who's quarantined by themselves inside their home and they're probably depressed and lonely and not working right now, and you're telling them that what they're supposed to just do this for however

long until we get a vaccine in one. That's ridiculous. It's impossible. Hey, I'm surprised to hear you say that, because you, uh, borderline hypochondriac. In my opinion, you like you but you yeah, not way, but you're like you definitely like to think of the consequences of your actions and the possible repercussions for them a lot more than than some people. Which it's it's good and bad in certain ways a lot more than Ashley. I can tell you that um to the whole reason for self quarantine

and can correct me if I'm wrong here. It was never to stay inside until we found a vaccine. It was to flatten the curve, to have open beds for uh, for for COVID patients, right. I agree, man, Like, especially in the dating world, so you're supposed to have sex now with with a mask on. I mean, it just takes out all human uh intimacy. If you're not able to kiss someone, um, if you're not able to see their face fully, you know there's there's an intimacy there

that that would be missing. And man, we've grown so apart because of because of the Internet and social media, um, and we've we've come to a state where we don't even need to be in the same room as somebody. We don't need to touch anybody anymore. And I'm just I'm I'm concerned about that because I think it's human beings. We need touch, we need human interaction, we need to be in a relationship with another human being. I was

actually watching this thing on Netflix last night. It was History one on one, and they're like twenty minute episodes and one of them was about robots and there was like they did a study, uh, and there was like of this study and this was in Japan said they'd rather be in a relationship with a robot than a real person. And this is like futuristic Blade Runner type

stuff that concerns me. To bring it back to that article, are you guys telling me there's never been a time where you've had sex where maybe there wasn't a lot of there was little to no kissing, Yeah, but they were still kissing. I've never had sex with someone and not kissing. Let's say there's like those rounds where maybe you don't have you kiss as much as always, what's minus a few and you just have sex. Like that's kind of what it is with the face mask. Is

it really that we give an issue? I think so, because I think for me, it's more escalation. It's like, first it's a face mask, and now we're outlawing sex with somebody who's not in your household. And that's what concerns me, is that we're just getting to this state where we're just we're gonna be isolated in our own homes because we're gonna be scared of everything, and now we're we're in master and sex and I don't know.

I mean, I see your point totally. I just feel like if it's short term, everyone could just throw in a mask. There's gonna There's been a few, quite a few times somebody has had sex with people in a club where there's not a lot of kissing. You're in the bathroom, you get it done, and you walk out like kind of how to get and it's not gonna be for forever. Yeah, it all depends I guess on who it is. Is it it's a stranger, Like I, I don't want to have sex with a stranger with

a mask on. I don't know. The whole thing is weird. We're just getting into uncharted territory and I have no idea what the right answer is. But I'm also concerned of escalation, like we talked about. Okay, what about this Jared and Dean? If Dean is still alive out there in Utah right now, you guys have kids, right now, Let's just imagine that you both you have a kid

and who's a teenager? Are you going to tell and you know they're sexually active at this point, are you going to tell your kid, Hey, grab the condom and the face mask. Would you tell them you're not allowed to go hang out with kids or would you tell them go for it, go build out immune system. What would be your advice to the teenagers, the young college kids? What do you do? I probably just tell them that,

I mean, well, that's a tough question. Hypothetically, i'd say right now that they I'd probably keep him at home right now. But that's also my kid, you know, like the government is not my dad. Um, And I'm gonna listen to what they have to say. And I want to listen to health experts, and and I'm gonna wear a mask everywhere I go, and I'm gonna try to avoid crowds and take this as seriously as possible. But you know, I'm lucky where I'm married and my significant

other I live with. But like Tori, like you're a single right now, you're by yourself. What if the government told you it is illegal for you to have someone over or to go over their house. It would make me ten times more promiscuous. Yeah, you want what you can't happen to you? Now, I'm gonna go do it. So I wonder what their numbers. Would you look like now? That man was like, okay, we're jokes on you and then they go out. Would would you have sex with with a mask on? I don't know. It's not an

easy question. Kissing is it's very intimate and I'm not even just talking about liplock, but like you o your lips and your tongue and there's you know, not to get to graphic here, but you know what I mean. Um and UM, I'm gonna ask you another personal question which you don't have to answer, but have you hung out with anybody during quarantine? I mean, you're single, it's been oh what three months now? Have you resisted the

urge to hang out with a friend. Yeah. I've been quarantined pretty much this whole time, either with my roommates or by myself or with my family. I haven't even really like said, hey, come on over all right, Well, we want to hear what you guys have to say about it. What do you think about wearing a mastering sex? Do you think it's right that England is making it illegal for people to not be able to hang out with other people outside their household? Email us at is

suck at dating at iHeart media dot com. And we also have Tasia Adams on thelan right now and we're gonna talk to her right after this short break. All right, welcome back to help I suck at dating. Dean is in his van and he apparently his computer keeps overheating, so he's very spotty right now. So I'm hoping he joins this this conversation sooner rather than later. But we have the wonderful, the amazing Tasha Adams who's joining us. Tasha, thank you so much for being here. How are you doing?

Of course I that's how am I doing. It's a loaded question, but to be um short, I'm okay, You're okay? Um. Obviously, Now, Dean and I had a jubilee and uh dr each major from marriage boot camp on last week, and we talked a lot about what's going on in the world right now. But I also want to get your take about everything that's transpired over the past week. Um, how

are you feeling? Um, To be quite honest with you, right here right now, as I'm sitting in my heart, I had like this anxious pit in my stomach, and UM, I can't specifically say as to what that is being caused by because there's just a lot going on. But um, I it's just it's heavy. It's heavy, everything's heavy. I'm I'm really happy it's all happening. To be quite honest with you, Um, it's a lot, it's a lot unpack. No, but I agree with you. I mean, it was I

think as uh as a white person. Uh, you know, I always knew I had white privilege, but I don't think I realized the level of privilege that I had because I don't think ever came to my head that, Um, you know, when the cops show up, I feel safe, and that's a privilege that I have. And it's sad. It's sad to say that, but it's true, and it's unfortunate. It's it sucks, it's it's it's horrible that there you know that the black community can't feel the same way.

And so, yeah, you're right, it was time. It was time to wake people up, to open their eyes, to realize what was happening in the world. And um, it's sad that it had to take the life of George Floyd in a video to come out on Twitter for

it to happen. But like you said, I'm glad it's happening. Yeah, it just I just hate that things have to go so far in order for it to get any type of like acknowledgement, you know what I mean, as if like this has not happened in the past, as if this is like the first time it's ever happened, or a movement like this has ever happened. Um to shine light on something that's all around us, um, in order for there to be a change. So um, I am a mixed baby. My mom is actually Mexican. So what

was that dynamic? Like, it's always been great. There's just been a lot of culture in my home. I guess, like I used to go to Mexico for summers at a time, and I would come back only speaking Spanish like as a kid, you know what I mean. So I have always been a diverse home. But I will say I grew up as one of the only black kids in my class. So, um, this is kind of like it's kind of crazy because I'm starting to realize

things that I never realized growing up, you know. Like, um, so I posted a clip the other day about Ruby Bridges. I don't know if you know a Ruby Bridges, um, but she Okay, So after um Brown versus the Board of Education, there was basically a breakthrough saying that, um, we're not going to have segregated schools anymore. And it took about six years in order for there actually to be any action, um making, you know, an integration in

the schools. And there was six children that were basically like the subjects to integrade schools, and Ruby Bridges was one of them. And she was six years old, and um, she basically was escorted, um by tons of police officers to even walk into this school because just the idea of her going to this school created huge controversy. Um it's it's it's really fascinating. I really really highly recommend to watch their actually a Disney movie on Ruby Bridges.

But um, basically the second she entered that school, there was about five kids parents that walk into that school, grabbed their child and left just because Ruby was going to that school. And being young, I remember like Disney channels, like Disney Channel, so of course I watched all movies on Disney. But that movie came out and I remember being in my room and watching that move and feeling just like, oh my god, I don't know why I'm gonna cry, but I just feel so overwhelmed because I

actually identified with her. I I didn't know if I don't know, just being like the only black kid, but I never felt like people were Um I don't know if people got taken out of school because of me. I didn't you know what mean, Like there was just so much you don't see and you don't know as a child that then it made me like think, like do people think this way? Have me kind of thing? And I remember just crying and watching it and and wanting to be someone with that that shined basically that

wanted to have an impact on people. And so, um, when I shared that the other day, it was actually insane how many d M s I got people saying they had no idea that that was even like a thing, or that they struggled to even go to school like that. And um, yeah, so there's things like that that I've

kind of like have like revisited in my mind. Um there's things like, uh, people asking, um, if I have the same parents as my siblings, because I guess it's just like kind of assumed that if you new siblings don't look necessarily alike, that you have two different parents, you have different parents, And someone was in my d MS because I addressed it the other day because I posted about my family and my people were kept asking

do you and your sister have the same mom? And when I posted, like as it kind of being like I never really thought about it, but I posted to all the people that are asking if we have the same mom, of course we do, like my parents have been together since they were sixteen and eighteen. And then when I was getting the d MS of people being like, I cannot believe how stupid that question is, like why would anybody even ask that? And thinking back, I'm like,

I never took any offense to that. I've been asked that since the day I was I don't know since I was wrong, but I didn't realize and someone told me, they're like, you never you would never ask a white person do you come from the same parents? What I mean, you would never ask like a white child that, And it's so true, like and no mixed person would ever really asked another mixed child you have the same parents.

Like I've never thought that in my mind and I never realized like this whole time, it's it's just kind of like that's true. It's just like a it's a funny remark in itself, you know, Yeah, it's a it's a very invasive question for strangers to be asking. You, Like, I never thought twice about it. That's how I was. I was brought into all white people and I never really thought twice about it. And the friends to it. Yeah, I mean, I I think for me, I haven't thought

twice about a lot of things. But you realize, you know, I mean, the civil rights movement was seventy years ago. I mean, that's it's not that long ago at all, and I forget that, you know, I forget that it was only seventy years ago, and it you know, certainly, Uh, I mean this is a you know, I'd like to think that things have gotten better, but there are still so much prejudice, in so much racist racism in this country.

I mean to the point where right now, if you post something that says black lives matter, you get you know, people like all lives matter, and it's like, no, that's not the point. You're missing the point right now. And I feel like just a lot of people are having trouble listening. Um. You know, it was like I remember last week when the protests started beginning, and and and then the looting started and people were saying, you know, see, look what, look, what's happening. It's like, no, you have

to you have to listen. There are peaceful protests happening right now. And then yes, there are there there are people looting, and that's wrong, but what what The positivity that's coming from these protests greatly outweighs what's happening with all these people looting and rioting. Um. And then I think back. I mentioned last week the Colin Kaepernick situation

about how he was taking a knee. He was doing a peaceful protest against brutality, uh, with against police brutality against the black community, and people immediately associated that with him, uh you know, saying the military sucks. And it's like no, no no, no, no, no, that's not you have to listen.

You have to listen to what people are saying. Um. People, I feel like everybody has a hard time doing that, you know, like they kind of just want to hear if they want to hear, not to the whole sentence. You're not listening to the entire idea. You can't just say I don't know you can't just like want a cake and put all the ingredients in the thing and like, hey, there's a fam cake, Like no, you have to stir it up, you have to bake it. There's there's there's

a process to everything. You don't just get what you want right away. And you can't just even say like, well, this is what it's supposed to be, is what you told me to do? Like no, you can put in work to like unpack it all and do what you need to do. It's just it's it's a lot. And I understand the whole calling Kapnick thing of like I posted something about that too, like y'all wanted like peaceful things and like someone just kneeled on their knee and

that was pretty peaceful. But I get it. It It was like a like regarding that when it was done the nationalism, but like in my mind, it's just like the national anthem, like it's for like freedom rings and like it's about what are America is based on? And to be quit honest with you, there's a there's a flaw in the system. There's a problem with it. It's not it's broken. So him doing that was just basically showing that there's something wrong here, and I needed to pay attention to it.

But it was all twisted and all that craft. I know it was he was he was looking for a platform, you know. But yeah, we don't have to die fully into the NFL. Now that's a whole different conversation. Yeah, you guys want to have an embarrassing story? Hi tissue? By the way, Oh my god, look who it is. How's everyone doing? Yeah, we're good. How's the desert? It's very hot? Um? Do you guys want to hear a story? Whether it's embarrassing or funny or it's just playing stupid

is up to I guess the listener's discussion. So um, and he Actually the reason I'm bringing up is because I'm just curious to hear what you think about it, because I just I'm curious, and Jared go as well. So before going to Paradise this this season, Before going to Paradise season six, um, I like found at the thrift store a Malcolm X shirt with him holding the fist up and then under it said by any means necessary. And I was like, WHOA, this shirt is so sick? Uh?

And then so I like bought the shirt. I started like listening to Malcolm X like rhetoric and some of the speeches, and I was like, Wow, this dude is so like the things you were saying. It was saying, we're so like, uh enlightening and like just just playing smart. Um. And then the night before I was supposed to leave, Oh, I'm sorry, sorry, I skipped. I skipped the step. So I found the shirt right, and I like basically knew

that me going to Paradise this time around. Um, like I I just wanted to I don't know, I wanted to maybe make a statement. And so what I thought about doing was wearing this shirt, the shirt with Malcolm X and the slogan by any Means Necessary on it, which was the slogan of was I don't know if it was the Black Panthers or if it was just the Malcolm X movement, but um, I was gonna wear that shirt every single day while I was on Bachelor in Paradise and that was gonna be my like silent,

peaceful protest against racial injustice. And I thought it was like the most genius idea of where I was like, I love this idea. I think it's fantastic. Anyways, passed forward to the day before we were supposed to or I was supposed to be shipped out to Bachelor in Paradise down to Mexico. We highly got dinner with a bunch of my friends. Um, and one of my best friends is is His father is black and his mother's white. And I was like, I was like Jackson, like this

is what I'm thinking about doing. What what is your take on this idea that I have? And he was like, deing, whatever you do, do not where that shirt every day? Because I guess I didn't realize at the time that the Malcolm X kind of stood up for uh not necessarily a violent approach, but he wasn't as peaceful as as Dr Martin Luther King was. But what if I showed up on the beach that first day some some bland, vanilla white dude wearing a Malcolm X T shirt that said,

by any means necessary, would you take is that? Like that? Would you take offense to that? I was like, my argument was like, my heart's in the right place, like I'm trying to do something good here. But I could also see the flip side of it, where um, it's just maybe a little inappropriate, don't forget he'd also be walking down with the mustache. UM. I don't think I would think about it too much at first, but I think that just it would have broke me a wrong way,

because like, do you know that even represents right? And I think that's kind of what that was his thing too. Although I had listened to like a lot of the speeches and stuff, he was like, Dean, like, you have to be read, need to like fully understand exactly what they're representing and and speaking on and about before you're you're even close to being able to representent. Sure, And I was like, you're right, I don't know enough about it to go down there and have like an intelligent

conversation with someone. So ultimately I decided not to do it um And I think I think I shouldn't have done it, obviously, but I do. Like I said, I listened to a lot of his um, like his his speeches and and read some of his literature and stuff, and he makes some good points. And it's funny because we don't really get taught much Malcolm X in school.

When we learn about American history, it's all like Dr King um and and basically that's it as far as black history goes, you know, um, as far as at least the education I got. No, I agree with you, and I think it's probably just because his approach is a little bit more, you know, like how you said a little bit. I wouldn't necessarily say aggressive, but it's more it is more intense, you know. Um So I think above all personally trying to approach every with peace

and gracefully and um no, respectfully. But the next step, which is riots and protests that kind of help are seeing it right now. But it's kind of funny because I feel like we're in that shirt could have just been like what people are doing and saying like, you know, well I like Kobe. I like Kobe Kobe's this is like nitpicking now, Okay, so clearly I'm not like a racist. I like black people, like you know what I mean, Like I listen to hip hop, you know what I mean.

It's just like I voted for Obama. Yeah, it's just like okay, but like that's great. I know you identify with that to some degree, But do you really know like the backstory behind everything else, you know what I mean? Like I said, I wasn't sure whether it be embarrassing or just playing stupid, and I honestly think it's all those things. I'm glad that you actually asked the perspective

before doing things. That's one thing you do do, you know, I will say, as like off the charges you are, sometimes you do kind of ask the people's opinions far before you do things. I'm very blessed to have a lot of intelligent friends in my life, Tasha. You're one of them, and so of course I'm going to lean on them for information every once in a while. Well, well, Dean, you're also very caring. That's that's one of the reasons why you asked, because this isn't this isn't about me

right now. Anyways. Another another interesting thing that I wanted to bring up with Tassia was being as you are bi racial. Um, I have a friend as well who is, like I said, he's bi racial. He actually got the DNA test and and his DNA test came back that he's like fifty five percent Caucasian. But you meet you meet, you meet this guy, and the first thing anyone sees is a black person. It's just so interesting to me that even though he's you know, I guess technically like

thirty five black. He's more white than he is black, and yet people still see a black man when he when they're introduced to him, or like if he gets pulled over, he's still going to be, you know, unfortunately treated as a black man gets treated during you know, a routine traffic stoff. Do you ever feel like you are identified more with being a black woman or because your mother is Mexican? Do you do you feel like you're do you identify more as a black woman or

a Mexican woman. It's so funny, um identify with bot. I don't know, I've never really like picked and choose. I think, what's what? It is really funny? Do you know what when you're filling out all those questionnaires like testing or even like I was just registering the vote and all that stuff, and ask you for your ethnicity always with this and it always says black slash no Hispanic descent, And I'm like, well that kind of sex

because I'm kind of so isn't that funny? It's like it is an actual line item, so it's like it's one and one. I don't like, I don't I always used to as to like, how do I identify with this because I'm both, so I don't know what to say with you, but it would say pick and choose. That's what they would tell me, pick and choose, which is kind of unfortunately. I guess you have to pick and choose because you want to be able to celebrate both of your heritages. But do you ever find it

difficult with dating? I know, like obviously the only dating exposure we have with you is Colton and then uh Bachelor in Paradise as well. But have you ever had any like maybe good or bad issues arise from your by racial nous? I will say no, but I guess I have always second thought if I'm going to be someone's cup of tea because I am not white, blonde haired, blue eyes, and that's the community that I live in.

Uh and um, yeah, I have always second guest myself in that aspect and like, oh that's cool, but like does he like mixed girls? Like you know what I mean? Like, and that's funny that like people even think that way, that you have to think that way, and it's fine if you don't are not into it, just like for me, like I guess I've been brought up around here and maybe that's why I have dated certain type of guys,

you know what I mean. Um So I'm not saying that having a taste or whatever you fancy is bad. I'm just standing like it is something that goes through my mind every single time I do introduce myself to somebody. Yeah, but I'm sure everybody does that to an extent, you know what I mean? Does she like tall guys are ball guys. It's like athletic guys are skinny guys, you know what I mean. Like everybody kind of has that. But I hate that, Like race is a thing that,

like you kind of cut the line. We kind of touched last week on Race and the Bachelor franchise a little bit with Jubilie, who had some pretty insightful things to say. Do you feel like, I mean, obviously there's a clear discriptancy. It's like every season you have, like you said, a bunch of white, blonde, blue eyed both man and women on whether it's Bachelor, bachelorret h and there is not much representation not just for even not just for black men and women, but for you know,

other cultures as well. Do you think do you see that ever changing or do you when you were on the show, did you ever notice it being like an issue of any sort. I can't say that I felt an issue. Um, I don't, And I will actually say Colton never made me think twice about that, which is amazing. Um. But I will say I have seen lots of comments and being like, well there has to be a token black chat, like a black person in the top four, you know what I mean, Like that's her, that's you

know what I mean? So I kind of second like I started second guessing myself. I guess like when everything was starting the air and I was like, holy sh it, like do you think that that's what it was? And I absolutely second guessed everything, and you can get guarantee. I went to producers and been like was that me? Um? And I hate it that's even like a thing? Um yeah. And then you started saying absolutely, I say, I started second guessing everything like it was there even really like

a thing that you know what I mean? And it sucks to feel that way. Um. You Also, I've always said it, I hate that. As much as I love the fact that Rachel Lindsay was the first black bachelorette, I do hate that that was like her glory lacking, just as just like Colton was a virgin, like okay, like ghetto it. Well. I know what's interesting is when I was being cast for that season, for Rachel season

I was. I began the casting process after she had already been announced for the bachelorrette because she had ever been anced early. And I think almost at every stage of the casting process, they were like, Hey, we just want to let you know, like the Bachelor that's black, Are you okay with that? And every time I was like, yeah, I don't care what you like, why are you Why

are you asking this question? And I can only imagine they asked that question to other people and they were getting negative responses to which it's just crazy to think about. People were like, you know what, I'm gonna sit this season out, you know, And again I I can't. I

can't just I can't confirm that. I'm just assuming. But um, the fact that they were asking me that question made me feel like other people were, you know, getting I guess up in arms about the potential to be on the show with a black right, But like I feel like always like when you highlight something, it makes it a big deal, It makes it a bigger deal than it is. It's as simple as that, And like, I think it's an amazing accomplishment for her. Absolutely they're not.

But the fact that that's an accomplishment, right, it's just it's it's it's funny to me. But then I guess on the flip side of it, you can argue by kind of like being hush hush about it, it might make it. Like the fact that you can the fact that we're even having this conversation, I think is is uh a step forward in the right direction, you know what, you know what I mean, versus where it's like if you're being quiet about it, maybe it's just I can

see what you're trying to say. I could definitely see what you're trying to say, Like if you didn't, if you do didn't, if you don't write yeah, because it was you know, it was a big deal because it was the first black lead, you know, and and take Sue, You're right, it sucks that it was a big deal because it should have happened a long time ago, but it hadn't. And The Bachelor, I think even recognizes that. I remember Chris Harrison saying something about it a few

months ago. About the lack of diversity in the show, and so hopefully that's something that changes in the future. Would be there's like I'm just saying, I mean, I guess Rachel and Ryan is a biracial couple, right, Yeah. And Jubilee brought up something interesting last week where it doesn't you know, it doesn't even have to be a black lead, but just cast someone who wants to date black people. Because she was talking about how she was on the season of Ben and this was not a

bad thing. You know, she wasn't saying anything bad about Ben, but she just said, like she knew Ben probably wasn't into her, and you know he's you know, he has a type, right, And so she what Jubilee wants to see. And I think it's a good idea is to not only cast more diverse leads, but cast people who are more open and wanting to date diverse people. Absolutely, that's interesting. It could be it could be any culture. We just

mean culture. That's the thing, you know. And I will say, with all this stuff, it makes me, you want to know, what makes me really uncomfortable is addressing people as its being like, dear white people. I also am uncomfortable with as funny as it is is saying black lives matter. Why am I uncomfortable because it just feels like, again, it's like segregation in a way, but also it's like it's not even that black lives matter. I just wish as they added one more word to the end of that.

I think it was if it was black lives matter too, it would just like just stop so much from rising up. Like everyone's saying, like, all lives matter, that's great, but black lives matter too, in addition to everyone. No, totally the actually the Rock uh, Dwayne Johnson, he posted an

eight minute speech about Um. He was specifically talking about the president, but he said, uh, you know, he was like, of course, all lives matter, like every single life matters because as Americans, we believe in equality, we believe in inclusion, and we believe in all these great things. And he's like, but that's not the point right now. Right now, you also have to say the words black lives matter. And it was pretty, uh, pretty powerful and impactful. So it's

an interesting time. I'm glad that the protests are happening. UM. I hope everybody just stay safe. I hope you stay safe. I hope you're doing well. I mean, we are a dating podcast, so I guess are you dating anybody? No? You all. I've been in quarantine, okay, know how the heck you'll expect me to date right now unless I'm getting the mailman. I really haven't seen really anybody, and no one's been coming up. So have you been. Have you been like starting to brave out? How is it

in Orange County? What's a lockdown situation? There? Are you guys starting to like phase into normal room? So as of like last week, restaurants started to like really really open up. Some Memorial Day weekend, they got like the notice that like midnight you can open up tomorrow. So it took some time, but restaurants are starting to open up.

It honestly seems very normal down here to me. Um, but the beach, our beach was always open and we really didn't have many cases here, and I feel like everyone really did take a lot of the safety precautions and we'll like doing pretty well down here. So I don't really think like it ever got too crazy bad like sterilized down here? Did you? Uh? Um? So have you been just out of curiosity because you're single? Dean and I are both the relationships. So I'd love to

hear have you been talking on to people virtually? Have you been going on any FaceTime days? And I have to say, okay. So I made a conscious decision about two weeks prior to Quarantine that I was ready to date. Okay, Like I talked to my grandfriends and I'm like, I'm ready for this, like we're going out tonight and they're like, what going out? And I was The're like okay. So we went out and I started meeting people, and I will tell you prior to Quarantine, like, yeah, I had

met some cool dudes. But I had to say, Quarantine kind of killed my vibe. Okay, I can only talk. Oh, it does give you the chance now to get to know them through conversation, see how they are texting. Yeah, but aldo at the same time, I felt that way at first, I'm like, you have nothing else to do,

so like we should be able to talk. But also if you don't really have like any incentive of seeing person in the new near future, like like what's the point, Like it's not what you can go on a date, It's not like we can even see if there's like chemistry, you know what I mean, or like how fun you would have like doing anything like thought you're talking about like sex. No, no, I'm just staying like you know, No, I know, I know, I'm just busting your jobs. I

get it. I mean, it's it's it's but I mean, because you're down there, you're with your you're living with your parents right down in Orange County, or you're staying with them at the moment. No oh, I thought you were. I thought you were quarantined with them. No, I'm quarantined by myself. Oh my gosh, that's horrible. I was gonna say, at least have your parents around to keep you company about fifteen minutes down the highway. They're like twenty minutes

on the highway. So I have been fortunate enough to just kind of, um go down the highlight and see them every weekend or so. But I can find myself, which I don't know how you guys are doing, because I like Katie more In for instance, she's living by herself. She's got her puppy dog. But the living by yourself, Tori, the producer of this podcat, Well, no, she's got roommates, but she's been staying inside a lot. But I don't know, like I'm going crazy enough just having Kaylin to talk

to on a regular basis. But I can't imagine like just being alone. And I thought, what's funny is I thought that all this isolation would like make me more willing to like jump on the phone and talk to my friends. But it's actually kind of the reverse effect. Like if a friend calls me, I'm like, I'm just gonna go ahead and screen that call and maybe just text them later. You're kidding, I'm the worst. But it's

like why, It's like why I can't. Why can't I be using this time to like, uh strengthen my friendships or you know, jump on the phone and FaceTime my buddies for an hour. I just I guess I'm just not that person. Well, no, I agree. I've become much more of a homebody, and I'm actually really outside of being at home and not talking to anyone. I mean, I have been into a crazy plant lady, and I do talk to my plans old day every day. They all have. Yeah, I mean Coco is the best. I mean,

he's growing, he's thriving. I talked on every single morning. Um, Kamila just has been looming like crazy. She's she's she's a saint, and herman he's growing. So that's that's my past. But baby willing to jump on the podcast at any point and give their hi. They're shy. I feel like you're turning into Tom Hanks from Castaway and like the plants are your Wilson. I'm not even kidding you, guys. I literally go up to them, I say I love them, I kissed them. I'm like, I love you, like as

if it's a dog or something. I straight up have issues, Like it's not okay, Like help me. You're gonna start bringing cocoa to your dates. You're like, oh, hi, how are you on? Tasha? This is my friend Coco. He'll be joining us tonight. You don't even know. I'm my mom called one of my plants Albert the other day. I was like, who the hell is Albert? His name is herman? Mom like, get it together. That's awesome. Well, Tashia, thank you so much for joining us. Uh you are

saying you're lovely and amazing. We wish you nothing but the best. Do you have any anything else? Do you want to say before we get going? You know, I just want to say number one, thank you, but also I have never I've never felt different around you guys, So thank you. I appreciate it. There's no need to thank us. Thank you. Okay, so thanks for coming on the podcast for the best. Thanks guys, have a good one. Bye. Tasia Adams. The the Pinnacle of Grace and Excellence. Yeah, yeah,

when when I think about it, you're right. I think grace graceful is a great way to do. I agree,

and just just a bubble energy, which is gonnatastic too. Um. You want to know what's funny is at the top of this podcast because I know that Nick shared his getting arrested story on his podcast the second Best podcast, this being the first, of course, and I was like, oh, I think it would be interesting for me to share my like arrest three and compare it to well, I guess I don't know if that's insensitive, to compare it to what it would be like, you know, hypothetically, if

I were a black man, if things would have gone differently, which you know, you can only kind of assume that they would, but yeah, I don't know what. So Nick on his podcast shared a story about how I didn't listen. I gotta be honest, but I saw the Instagram. Yeah, that's that's all I saw too. Uh. And I was just gonna say that at the top of this episode, I was, you know, considering sharing if if there was time,

which we obviously just didn't have time for. I was going to share my run ins with the law as a white person. And it's like as a white person when I was you know, I only got arrested before I turned twenty one, and they were mostly they were actually all alcohol related defenses. But for how like, uh, I rate you know, emotional and like angry that I was when I was getting arrested those times as like a twenty as a nineteen twenty eighteen year old white boy.

I can only imagine how much worse it would have gone had I not been white, and had I been a black person or you know, hispanic or or whatever. Um. And I I hadn't really ever thought of that until just recently. And it's crazy. I guess, like, you know, you keep seeing like this is privileged. Your your privileged.

If this, like I just saw a thing, you're privileged if you're learning about racism instead of having to experience racism, and I guess that's kind of the same situation right now, where it's like, yeah, holy like I've no, I'm no. I know, I've been privileged my whole life just for being a white Like I always used to tell myself that I had the genetic jackpot where I'm a tall white man, I have like every Both you and me, Jared are like afforded every privilege that life in America

can be handed to us because we're tall white men. Well you're you're five nine, which is call me, you're you're above the national average. But you understand what I'm saying. It's like we've gone through life, just me and you.

We've gone through life without having to worry about so much, and it's just it's it's great to be able to talk to our friends like Tasia, Jubilee, dr Ish and and the other ones that we're talking to off air, and uh kind of understand that our life isn't the norm for a lot of people in America, for a lot of people over the world. Yeah, I agree. I think not only just understanding, but like reaffirming it. You know, I think it's always good to remind yourself, Hey, you're pretty,

you're pretty lucky. Don't ever forget that, don't ever take it for granted, um, because like you said that, not everybody in this world can say that, which sucks, and it's what we're trying to change right now. So thank you for everybody for listening as always, Suck Army. You guys are the best. We really Please keep your emails coming, and I promise, I promise, I promise next week we will get to them. Thank you, Tasha Adams of course for joining us, the ever graceful Tasha Adams, uh dean,

thank you for joining us for half the podcast. Sorry computer is overheating, but you know next time don't record from the h of course, Jared and I promised next week we'll get to some of those emails as well. I know how much you love does and I guess the listeners out there that are listening to this episode

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the van. It feels like almost a small return to normalcy. It's like a breath of fresh air. But like, oh, Dean's back in the van. I'm glad you feel, because you know, I feel the best I felt in a long time. All Right, Well that'll do it, suck Army, Thank you so much for listening. Um good. Yeah, like Jared said, keep sending us emails. I second dating at i heeart media dot com. We just had so much talk about lately. We haven't had time to get to them,

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