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Help We Suck At Being Newlyweds? With Dean Aungler, Haylen Miller Keys, and Jared Haven.

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Everyone, Welcome to an all new episode of Help We Suck At Being Newlyweds? I am joining you from Jackson Hole. Dean, we'll be joining us shortly. And Jared, where are you in Rhode Island?

Oh?

Yeah, of course. Uh well, now I get I shouldn't say of course. I was just in Dallas. Travel in the world really?

Oh what?

So the title of this podcast made me think, do you guys, now you're a month in, do you suck at being newlyweds?

I'd say some days for sure.

What does it mean to suck as being a newlywed?

Uh hmm, that's a good question.

I mean you would know better than me, as you've been married for longer.

Yeah, but you're in the midst of it, you're living in yeah, yeah, past my prime.

You know, I don't know.

It's it's usually good and you know, you like come off of a high from the wedding, so it's it's hard to say right now.

Have you gotten any pictures?

Oh yeah, from the wedding? Yeah, do you have all the pictures, Yeah, we have all of them.

We're just waiting on the full video, but we have everything.

Else that's going to be very nice.

The greatest thing about the pictures in the videos are that it just takes you immediately back into that moment that you never want to ever forget.

So that's the nice thing. You have all these because you do come off the high of.

The wedding, but then you have all these things that just kind of keep coming up, that just keep reminding you of them. And now, so after the pictures and the videos, then you'll start seeing friends that you haven't seen since the wedding, and then you're going to be reminiscing about it and you're like, oh, yeah, that feels good.

You know. That's the good part.

It's like you're going to see a friend like, oh my god, I haven't seen you since the wedding. Like, oh, we get to talk about it all over again. This is amazing.

I know. I was trying.

I saw one of my girlfriends last week, Tory, who gave a speech at the wedding, and she was just filling me in an all the things that I missed, and I was like whoa. A lot went down that I was unaware of, So that was fun and just hearing like what they did during the like off time, you know, like hiking and fishing and all that.

Yeah, it was beautiful over there.

My biggest memory is the fact that Ben and Wells definitely went to bed probably nine pm on the night of the wedding because they were so drunk.

Yeah, and they danced.

So hard they just disappeared. Because for a good hour I was like, where the hell is Ben and Wells? And then I realized that they definitely are passed out right now because I went inside not looking for them, but just you know, the movement of the wedding led me to different parts of the venue and I was like, I kept thinking. I was like, I haven't seen either

So yeah, that's why.

How did you guys leave? Because you roade with.

Tanya, right, But we rented a car.

So we oh, Okay, shout out to the app Turo. This app is phenomenal. All the rental cars were gone in Aspen, couldn't find one. The only car was like this black car that was like fifteen hundred dollars for the three days.

Obviously we're not going to do that. Ubers were really hard to get.

We got an uber from the the airport to the hotel the night we flew in, but it took like twenty five minutes to get it. And then the next day we were trying to find ubers and we just couldn't find any, Like, how the hell are we going to get to this venue? And Tanya and her fiance were flying in and they were under the They were like, we're just gonna take an uber, but now we don't know what we're gonna do because we're in contact with them,

Yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, that makes sense.

Yeah.

We used turo once in Hawaii.

I think when Dean proposed we used to Row and it's pretty nice.

It's like someone else's car.

It's great.

Is that the one where it's someone else?

It's like a uber for cars.

He showed up right to our hotel, dropped it off, and I was like, Okay, I felt like I was doing something wrong. Yeah, because it's there's not that much of a process. You just have to scan your license. I feel like with renting a car, I have to sign my life away. There's so many there's so many papers.

So yeah, and it was so nice too, because our guy just dropped us off at the airport in Hawaii and I was like, this is great. This is so much better than going to the rental spot then going on a shuttle to the airport. And Dean's been talking about renting his car out for F one Formula one, because I bet wait, wait, no, no, I don't know how many people are going to be renting cars for Formula one, but Formula one is in like three weeks.

Oh.

I totally misunderstood that because I was like, what do you mean that he's going to rent it out to Formula one.

Race?

What kind of car does Dean have that I'm unaware of?

Yeah, he hasn't done any action on that.

Dude, you walked over and you look like my dog waking up in the morning, just like.

Yeah, thanks, I've already showered this morning. I feel pretty good. But it's good to know I look like. No. Actually, I did have the worst night of my worst sleep in my life last night, so maybe uh, maybe that has something to do with it. But but it's okay. It's good to know I look like Thanks man, I appreciate it.

Yeah anytime. Well, here's the thing.

This is why I never feel bad about saying Dean doesn't look good.

Not looking good?

Oh please, like he's not aware of this fact Dean not looking good. And Kaylin, you're in the same boat where if you guys don't look good, you're still an eight out of ten. You know, you're like you on your worst days are an eight.

That's not true, but thank you.

Oh it's very true because I've noticed, Kaylin, I'm going to say something I don't know how like to. It's always weird talking about females. But you're not wearing any makeup, are you correct?

I never do on the podcast.

I did just look at our big big screen. I do look like I just want out of bed, so I apologize, apologize.

I don't apologize. I love every second of it. But Caylen, I was going to say, I think you are You're so naturally beautiful, when I can't. You weren't wearing any makeup. I don't know why. Maybe it was just because of the warning. But when you came on the zoom, I was like, Cayle looks great. I mean you always obviously.

Maybe I'm just.

It's not a flirtatious thing, like that's this is all. But isn't it so hard to tell someone that, like because you want to give them compliments? Like, of course I want to give you compliments, both of you, because you're both great people and you're both very good looking. But it's always weird giving compliments to the opposite sex, I could say, and.

No one thinks twice about it.

Dude, bro, I'm saying you're sexy now, okay, I'm flirting with you.

Well, Jared, Yeah, we appreciate the compliments, man, but we do looklick and it's funny to I look like and it's funny because you still are glowing from your Austin experience.

I don't know about that, I'm so pale now. My spray tan went way. Sorry, Sad, I disagree with you. I think I think you look good.

The hair's a little messier, the scruffs a little scruffier. But yeah, yeah, you're welcome. Dude. You're beautiful, You're beautiful. What do you want to talk about today?

What do I want to talk about today?

Just looking at the email here, yeah, well, let's let's look at let's look at this real quick. So I'll ask you a couple of questions that our great producers put on this email for us real quick. You got such great positive feedback and well wishes from fans after your announcement on the pod last week. How does that feel.

Feels?

It feels great. A lot of people come into Audrey's and they know about our lives, and it's very humbling. Everybody always says like, oh, I'm sorry, I don't mean to be creepy. I'm sure you guys get it all the time too, where they just follow along and they know a lot of things. But we also put it on social media for that purpose, Like the reason we post about it is not just for ourselves, it's for

He is.

Yeah, he's cool.

He's like the only person I want to hang out with now. He's just.

He's so happy. He's so happy, and we're in such a great stage with him that it makes me look forward to having another to get to that point because like we all remember the infant stage Ashley and I do and listen, I love baby Dawson.

He was the cutest thing ever.

But damn that was hard and the idea of doing that all over again, especially on I mean, she's the one who's going nine dude. It sucks for the mom. Like it's the greatest obviously, you get to carry life inside you. It's such a blessing, but damn, you have to be pregnant for nine months, ten months, I think technically speaking, and just like your body, your body is just I mean your body. I don't even need to

It's a very big blessing. But yeah, that's great.

So it's cool.

Uh, Dawson is just killing the game. He's dude, he loves sports. He loves sports.

Are you sure he loves sports or you just are like projecting that onto him?

Dude, he's the one. He grabs the ball. He throws it all the time, ball anytime. Like he'll point to the screen football football, because he'll see a picture and then like, we have a Sports Illustrated two thousand and one Patriots book and he'll bring it over to me. He'll call football football like yeah, bro, football. And then he has a little hockey set. Now Grandpa got for him two little hockey sticks alone net Dude, he freaks out.

He just loves hitting the ball.

And we're like go and he starts screaming because it's so it's so funny. How Ashley was known for this laugh cry where she's laughing and then she starts crying and then she's laughing and crying at the same time dude, Dawson does the same thing. I don't know if it's just a baby thing or if it's because he came from Ashley, but he'll get so excited.

He's like it's like, you don't know if he's crying or laughing. He's so excited.

Then he'll just like bite things because he just like can't contain himself. Like, bro, that's pretty cool, and.

You're gonna have another one of those running around pretty soon.

Yeah, I mean we'll see boy girl. I mean, uh, Ashley doesn't care if it's a girl care either. I mean, I prefer a girl, just because I would like Ashley to have a girl. And girls apparently are easier. Watch I'm gonna get so many people being like, oh, really, the easier and then they'll just tell me horror stories. But I've heard from the masses that girls are usually easier up to a certain point because they're just calmer. My niece, as much was, wasn't as much easier than Dawson.

He's up, he's walking, he's reaching, he's grabbing, he's throwing you know, it's just like that's personality. So if we have another one of Dawson doing that, that could be problematic and quite stressful. But it's cool man, good things. So that's what's going on.

You know, people are always asking about whether we move out of Rhode Island as well, because you.

Were just talking about that like a couple like a month ago.

I know.

Well, people always ask now because they're curious whether we're going to move or not if we have a second one, because Ashley's very open about how much help her family is and they are so helpful.

There's so hands on. I don't I don't know. I mean, you guys are you know in between like you're because if you guys moved to Denver, you've been thinking about keeping the place in Vegas too, So I don't know, maybe we'll have I just don't know if we have the financial stability to keep two places, but who knows. We'll say. Plus Audrey's like, I need to bear there a lot, but we.

Would have rent. We would rent our Vegas place out what's going on with the Colorado house. We are still in talks and figuring out which one we want. But if we were to move to Colorado. We would hopefully find like long term renters to live in our Las Vegas house. You know, it's hard to say goodbye to that super low mortgage rate.

Yeah, that's the goal. But so far I've fallen in love with five houses. We haven't gotten any of.

Four or five.

Yeah, but the newest one that I fell in love with as of yesterday has an ADU, so we could like it's in it's closer to Aspen than the previous houses were, so we could rent it out. People could like come for ski season for fall and make some money off of that.

That's the goal at least.

Yeah, you guys could come and have a free place to stay whenever you wanted.

We'll charge you, but yeah, you free.

What I said free, I didn't actually mean free. Yeah, I mean free for it. Yeah, it's not free free, it's just free. You still pay for it. So we'll see what happens with that. I am not I don't know. Kaylen seems to be more gung ho about moving in sooner other than later.

Well, and here's why.

Because we keep hearing from our realtor that the market dies in the winter. Nobody's everybody wants to buy an aspin and like spring, summer, fall, and then as soon as winter hits, all of the prices drop.

So I feel like this is the best time.

And I think, not that anyone knows, but I think prices are just going to keep going up. So I'm like, if this is these are the prices now, imagine what they're going to be a year from now.

But also you realize that February or like winter's over in February on November.

Yeah, but I still want to look.

Yeah, and if we find something, then let's snatch it.

But like, what if we waited for extra months and waited till February and that house dropped two hundred thousand dollars.

And what if someone bought it?

But what if it dropped four hundred thousand dollars?

So that's okay, So that makes sense.

So your realtor is saying that because prices will drop, people are going to jump on it more so it'll be more competitive. So now, nous.

So what we think is, since it's harder to sell a house in Colorado in the winter, if we wait until winter to buy the house, the seller will be more motivated to sell and come down and meet our asking price.

Because but the house we're looking at right now has already been on the market for like one hundred some days and they've already dropped it in price. So and we heard that they're pretty eager to sell. So hopefully, but honestly, the houses that we've seen on the.

Site, they go so fast like that.

We had probably ten on our list, and I think eight of those were pending within like two days.

Well not necessarily though, when we found them on the internet, they were already pending. It's not like we found them one day there for sale, next day they were pending.

No.

No, no, So our realtor sends us a list. I'm right, no, he sends us a list, and then he text to us. We sent him a list of ten and he was like, hey, these ones just became pending.

Okay, I'll just disagree, but I won't. I won't push it any further on it. But yeah, hopefully we get something there soon. Yeah.

So you guys are in Jacksonville right now.

Yeah, we're in Jackson Hole, staying at cloud Vale Hotel. Jackson's a pretty dope spot. Have you ever been out to Jackson It's pretty cool. There's some great mountains. The Grand Tetons are here, yellow Stone is right up the road. It's just a nice It's actually the most expensive. I think it's the most expensive town in America. I'm pretty sure that's his stat right, more than tell your I would tell your ID. Is so random to think that that's the most expensive one. No, Jackson Hall, I'm pretty

I would probably rather shop than rock climb.

Yeah, yeah, I've got I've had a messed up shoulder for the past couple of weeks, so there's no chance I can lift myself off.

A mountain, gotcha. That's why you're not climbing.

There's a lot of reasons I'm not okay, probably yeah, the first and foremost, but yeah, who knows, he knows what's gonna happen.

After two and a half years.

He was cheating while you were pregnant.

We're pregnant. Yeah, about thirteen women.

More like if I would have stayed married to Max, I think he would.

Have achieved forever it was. It was just toxic relationship.

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Don't want to miss this three pruni on iHeartRadio or wherever you get your podcast. We went to a launch, which is an indoor trampoline park around here, and Dawson loved it, but they had a it was so much fun he lost it.

Uh.

There was also like a mini adult obstacle course kind of like American Ninja Warrior.

Which of course I had to try. Yeah, And so there was it was an easy, medium and hard. So I was like, all right, let me do the medium one. It was fun and I did it. It had one of those ladders, you know how the ladders are like it's pointed upwards and then you climb up the ladder and then as you climb it, you know, it takes your way down.

So I did that.

I had to swing across the rings and then I had there was a rope and I had to like tally myself.

I'm gonna post.

About it cause I'm very proud because I was able to completely.

I mean, I look like a jackass, but I.

Always see those videos and I'm like, dang, that looks suck so much fun. But you completed the You completed the course.

I completed it was so the course is very It's only probably like five or six you know, it's not that extensive. But it made me think I wish that there was an adult obstacle course because I would go there. I wish the gym had an adult obstacle course because I it was such a good workout. Dude, my entire upper body. Like I lift pretty consistently and I can

So my point being Dean is.

I can I can see your fascination with like rock climbing and hiking, because it's.

Like, why don't you just go to that gym every day?

It's not a gym, it's an indoor it's a kid's tramp leane park that they had a small portion for I probably most likely teenagers, but I just took it as an adult session.

I was like, well, I'm gonna do it.

Instead of your softball league, you should have a Ninja warrior league.

Yeah, there you go. Did you did you try the hard portion of that obstacle course? No?

You know what it was too.

There was two So the guy was like, I've only seen one person to complete the hard portion.

So the last part of it, there's two.

Like wooden planks that are played like three by three and it's the ones where you have to hold on by the side with your fingertips and then like slide yourself across.

I was like, bah, there's no way, my fingers are not that strong.

Yeah. Caitlin always thinks that I should do those shows. And whenever you like see someone that's actually really good at it do it, you realize how impossibly hard all of those things are.

Just because they make it look so easy. But we actually have been watching Special Forces. Have you watched it? The one Nicks on right now? Oh my gosh, I love it. It's so good, and I want Deane to go on. It's so bad because every single thing he's like, that's easy, that's easy, and I mean it looks impossible to me.

I'm just talking the whole time too, but it's obviously not easy. It looks incredibly challenging. But I can't imagine. Would you do a lot of those people leave after like that?

No chance, absolutely not.

All of those shows that he wants to do, like uh so this one Special Forces Survivor even we were watching amazing race last night and we've talked about doing it for so long. But I'm like, shoot, maybe he would be better off with this brother than me.

Well, I definitely would be, yeah, but if you more fun with you.

Yeah, I don't know.

It's just this season everyone's complaining a lot more so I'm like, shoot, maybe this isn't meant for me.

Well, Special Forces, I've heard is only about eight days of filming.

That's crazy to me. Just suffer for eight days, I can't imagine. Like Tara Reid and I can't remember many of the other names, but they were leaving after like one or two days, and it's like, you guys have been there for two days. I'm sure it sucks, but it's two days.

I do get where Tara Reid was coming from.

Where you have these guys that are like two hundred and fifty pounds, like big muscular guys, and you have little small Tara Reid, who's like, why why am I carrying the same backpack as everyone else? Like this backpack is the size of me. So I do you know, Tara complained a lot on that show for one day, but I do get where she was coming.

From at that point.

Yeah, I suppose that's true, but still eight days of filming. I didn't even know it was that short. But have you talked to Nike ad All about it now?

A little bit? Not really.

Ashley was the one I think who talked to someone about it because she told me, because I was like, of course, we asked the same question, like, Ashley, would you be able to do this, and she's like, I feel like I could do anything for eight days, like I could do it.

Yeah.

I'm like, yeah, I think I think you could do it. I think you could do it for eight days too, because you just you see the light at the end of the telem Here's what I think wood should be so cool because I also like Special Forces. I don't watch a lot of TV, but I've been watching this and uh, I think it would be fun.

Caylen.

The reason I asked if you would do it is if they did a like.

Couples not Bachelor, Like, of course they would have Bachelor, but they would have you know, vander Pomp or different like you know, reality TV personalities, but there would be couples, and so they would have one for Bachelor, and it could be like, you guys could be the first couple from Bachelor, and then there would be a couple from whatever Housewives or stuff like that, because that would be an interesting dynamic if it was teams and so it would be you, it would be Daning Kaylen versus so

Be a lot of me yelling at Kaylen, her crying and then yelling back at me, and then me getting angry at her yell TV so that I started yelling at her. Yeah, so let's not do that for the sake of our marriage. Yeah.

Yeah, but you guys will probably get money.

Yeah, I'll do anything. I'd do a lot of weird things for a lot of money. Nick actually is doing pretty well for himself this season, though in that show.

I'm not shocked by that. Dude, I feel like Nick is underrated. Uh, He's always been underrated in the physical department because he's always been ripped. But like, I don't think a lot of people look at him as an athlete, so to speak.

But dude, I'll never forget.

We were playing pick up basketball one time and with one of Nick's buddies who had this beautiful court. He had an entire indoor court in his backyard and he had the Lakers emblem on it.

It was sick and it was five on Dean. Actually, Dean, were you there? Did you play with those?

I don't think so? All right? Was it a Lakers player's house?

No, no, No, it's just a guy who's very rich and was a big Lakers fan and he like builds an entire basketball court in his backyard. But we were playing and dude, I remember Nick is you know, he wasn't the greatest basketball player, but like he just knew his role. Dude, he was like throwing bows at people. He must have grabbed fifteen rebounds, had like twelve assists, and dude, he was just boxing people out and throwing

Just he was strong. He's pretty strong.

And when he signed up for special and he's super competitive. He's so competitive. So when I found out he's on Special Forces, I was like, I think he's going to do pretty well.

And good for him. I'm happy for him.

Yeah, he seems to be doing well. Him and Tyler are both doing pretty well. I mean, I mean, like it's so hard not to be biased because you know, Nick's our friend and Tyler I never met him, but adjacent to him socially, so I want them to do well. But I see them for like competing in these challenges. I'm like, I don't really think anyone's going to be able to beat these.

Guys, I know, But also Hannah won last season.

Yeah, and she was going against guys like you know, Dwight Howard and all these professional athletes, So there's gotta be you know, there's obviously a mental portion to this that will showcase itself more towards the end, because if it was just physical, then you're right, it would just be guys like Tyler and Nick who always win these seasons.

Yeah, like what happens if not everyone wants to leave? Like they have to start eliminating people at some point some way. I think Tyler is gonna win. He seems like he's gotta got it pretty well figured out.

I say, Nick or Jojo, so you will.

But yeah, it's possible. I don't know. When Kelly Rizzo was leaving in the last episode, I was like, why don't you just do this? Wake up tomorrow and then look back and be like that sucked, but at least I'm.

Still here right, Like the hard part's over.

Let's go. Yeah. So, so I want to do Special Forces. If you're your casting director for that show and you're out there, you're listening to this podcast, get me on season three. Calen loves the show and she wants to laugh at me.

So hell yeah, I get so.

Yeah, let's vocalize that because that's I feel like, certainly not easy, but very very plausible.

Let's get deep on Special Forces next season.

Oh yeah, I've been working. I don't know how much I can do. But after that, so we were watching nat stars on Mars.

Yeah, stars on Mars is to do the show actually was supposed to be.

On She is on it. She's on it for one episode.

Oh okay.

I wasn't sure.

So I wasn't going to say anything because I wasn't sure if she had been on it already and what the deal was. But then that one came on. I was like, I could do that. That's something I think I could do.

Well, can you has Ashley been on it yet or do you know? Are you not allowed to talk about it?

Oh?

Yeah, so it's I'm assuming you guys are streaming it because it's already aired.

Oh go okay, so only I only watched like half of one episode, and I was like, okay, this seems like something that I could do if I were to go back on TV.

Wait, let's I want to hear all about her experience if you're allowed to share it.

Of course, because it all aired, so she she's.

Talked about this. So she flew out. It was in Australia, dude. She got the call two days before she flew out, and they were like, you could be up, you know, here for about two weeks or so and so, but we were able to figure it out get her out there. She flew to Australia. She flew in on this small little plane.

Because when they flew to some part in Australia and then actually had to fly the location, that had to take like tiny plane and it fit like four people on it.

And she flew with Paul Pierce, which was so cool.

Nice, and I think I think his name is Andy Richter, the guy Conan's buddy on the.

Chebby Ish comedian guy I played off with them before. Actually he'slarious.

Oh yeah, it seems super nice.

So so she goes on and then she's in you know, the space hold or whatever, and it's so cool. She got to meet Marshawn Lynch and she got to meet Lance Armstrong and Ronda Rousey and all these people, and she said they were all very nice. She loved marsh On. She said Marshaan was the coolest guy ever. I'm like, good, duh, of course he is.

So she goes on.

They have one task, so they have like there's this, you know, there's air getting through, or there's like gas or something. There's a gas leak that they have to plug up. So they go they do that, and then everybody has their own individual task. Ashley's task was literally just putting her finger on like blocking this hole on the bottom, because some people had to stand up and like reach up like this for like two hours to block the.

Holes until they could fix it.

Ashley's was literally on the closest to the ground, so she was just laying there for like an hour and a half of their finger in this hole, just chilling.

It was very funny. It was really funny.

And then so fast forward, they come back from the mission and this is when you start eliminating people and the problem was there's really nobody to eliminate because everybody they achieved the task. Everybody did their thing, so they had to eliminate the person that had the littlest to do, and they ended up being athlete's god.

So it wasn't even like her own fault that she just she did what she was supposed to do, but she was given the easiest task.

Yeah, she was given the easiest tasks that they're like, all right, you're not mission critical, I guess, so, thank you.

And then I mean, while you're staying next to like six foot eight Paul Pierce, who can like reach any type of height, you know, so obviously like they want to write him to stick around.

Yeah, and then you have all these sports athletes like marshawn Or or Richard Truman was on it. He wasn't on it when she was there, but then Lance Armstrong and Paul Pierce and all these guys who are like, you.

Know, athletes and could do things. That's so funny.

Yeah, so she's she enjoyed doing that.

I think it feels like Special Forces has tapped into something. I hope Stars on Mars does well. Like Ashley left her time on there, you know, we feel very honored that they even considered Ashley to go on, so like we really hope that she helped the show in any way, and hopefully it gets renewed. But it feels like Special Forces has tapped into something within the reality TV sphere that is going to last a very long time.

Yeah, well, there's there's been shows like that around for a while, like not in America, but there's that show in Australia. Funny enough, you're just talking about it, isn't

Well, and there's a UK version of Special Forces, which I think they took the idea from, and I heard it's like just as maybe a little bit less popular than Love Island.

So Love Island became super popular.

I don't know if this was their mindset and then they were like, let's try incorporating more UK reality TV shows.

In the US.

So did Ashley fly to Australia, film one episode and then fly directly back home.

Yep, she was gone for forty eight hours if that, and it took her I mean it's like a two hour flight, eighteen eighteen hour travel, eighteen twenty hours. She traveled more than she spent time on the show.

Well, hopefully they compensated her well enough to make it worth it.

Yes, it was very much worth it. We're very lucky and grateful for that. So yeah, it's definitely worth it.

That's kind of why I want to go on one of those shows instead of like Survivor, because Survivor you go on you only get a million dollars if you win, but stars on Mars you go on. I'm not saying she got a million dollars obviously, but you're still getting a nice little time to change for anyone one episode that you're on.

Yeah, and.

I'm I feel like there's because we're you know, it's different than when we were first on the show. We're like you said Survivor, right, Survivor is a show where it's very similar to Bachelor. You pluck these people from everyday life and put them on TV. So we're not getting paid because we're not like, you know, we're not names.

You know.

Now it's different.

Indeed, if you went on Special Forces, I don't think you would get paid per episode. I think you would have a fee and then you know, they would offer you a certain amount of money to do this show. And it's like, if you laugh this long, you'll get this amount of money. I think you'll just get a flat fee and then go on the show.

I agree, I think that's right. But I would say, like, for things like that that I want to do, I would almost be like, I'll just do it for free.

Oh my gosh. She says this about everything.

We talked about it too. It's like I would just do it for free.

No, you wouldn't.

If they were like, hey, we have one more spot, but we don't have any more budget, will you just come do it for us, I'd be like one hundred percent. Yeah, I'm there. Stars on Mars, I would do it.

For really, put your foot in your mouth here. If they want to cast you, they know they don't have to spend a cent.

Hey, perfect, if that's what it takes to get me on the show, Just for them. To know that they don't have to spend a single dollar on me. I'm in what it's going to take. It seems like it's fun enough for you to be making to make it for free. Yeah yeah, but I guess we'll get to that that when we come to it. But but yeah, that's my dream is Special Forces or Survivor or Amazing Race with my wife or my brother or no, no Mars with Neil Armstrong.

No, no, no, got to focus on Special Forces because there's definitely gonna be a season three. So we got to get you on Special Forces season three because I'm assuming it feels like this show is doing very well, they're probably going to do a season three very quickly.

When do they film, do you know in the summer?

I have no idea.

I don't know, but I would imagine that they're going to just keep pumping it out because the first season, I mean was earlier this year, right, it was I think springtime when it aired, and then they filmed, and then now it's fall and there's another one. So assuming there's probably gonna be you know, the Special Forces that airs, you know, sometime in the spring next year, which means they'll probably start filming here in the winter of twenty

If you want to be cold, you can just go to the other hemisphere.

Got to get the campaign out there because they'll, dude, they'll put you on. You're a big name part of Bachelor.

I don't know. If I don't know, I'm big enough of a controversial. But that's why I'm saying I'll work for free. I'll give give them free labor controversial, thank you very much. Yeah, I was watching last episode and I don't I don't know. I don't know how I would affair on that show, but like the boxing portion of it, I'm not a fighter, obviously. Would I get rocked, probably, but it'd be fun. But that's the point.

Yeah, Like everybody wants to see us reality TV personalities just get punched in the face.

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Also, that episode is crazy because Sandoval is just He's like stop and he just keeps punching Nick.

I was like, dude, he said stop like ten times, you got to stop punching it.

Yeah, so I didn't see what happened.

Sandoval and Nick fought like a boxing match.

Yeah up, Sandoval one.

We thought Nick was winning the whole time, but then Sandoval just like, I don't know. We were like, I bet he's upset because Nick talks so much crap about him when the whole scandaal went down, but he the guy said stop, and Sandoval just kept going after him. So then they're like, this guy's too fiery, so he's got to fight someone else. So then he fought Jack Osborne and Jack one.

Nick lost.

I it didn't. It seemed pretty even. Honestly, it's not like he lost. They like would spar with each other for a couple of minutes and then the guy, the lead guy, would be like, yeah, you won, you lost, but like no one was eliminated or anything.

It was but basically just trying to get people punched.

Yeah, that makes sense. We haven't talked about dating once this episode.

Have we Oh shucks?

I know?

Oh you know what? Who cares?

Honestly, this is so much more interesting anyway. But what I want to do before we get going, because I know time is quickly getting away from us, was that there was an article that I wanted to talk to you guys about. It was from this TikToker who's a dating coach. Her name is Sabrina Zohar. She's thirty three. She has over four hundred thousand followers on TikTok. But the point is this clip went viral it says three red flags to look for look out for early in dating.

I need to think for a second, do you know?

I think one of my biggest red flat flags.

I've talked about this numerous times coming from hospitality, is how people treat their bartenders and wait staff. Yeah, dude, you're rude to them. I couldn't the biggest quote unquote dick. That's what the kids are saying these days. Also, I got another ick too. I go to planing fitness. It's near college. There's a lot of college boys and girls that go to this gym, and there was legit. I an ick is when girls and guys dance at the gym to the music they're listening to on their headphones.

They were like.

They were doing TikTok dances like not on camera in the mirror, just like looking at it, like, and then they would look at each other and they're like bopping their head and then it's like, dude, shut, does.

That mean we're getting older?

Yes? But I do agree with you. I do agree with you very very much. So I'm trying to think back of what my red flags were from dating. It was hard for me to find something I didn't like in someone on the first couple of dates. On the first couple of dates, and then after those first few dates, then it hit me like a freaking flood of things. I was like, Oh, I hate this and this and this and this and this about you. I don't ever want to see you again.

I feel like mine is kind of similar.

I don't know, it's easy, excuse me to get the dick from guys. I'm trying to think, like the brief time I dated in LA, I just hated when people name dropped. I'm like, okay, cool, you hung out with Toby maguire once, like sweet, I don't know.

Things like that were just kind of off putting.

Did so many name drop Tom McGuire too.

That's a very specific thing to remember.

At Actually a girlfriend did a couple months ago, and that's just top of mind.

But yeah, I don't know things like that.

Okay, it's fair enough. I I'm trying to I'm still trying to think back, Like if a girl is super into astrology, astronomy, astrology, astrology, If.

She's into astronomy, that's pretty cool.

That'd be dope, that would be really cool. But astrology is a bit.

Of plants and stars.

Yeah, oh gosh, I'm trying to think about else. But yeah, LA is tough because it's LA is great because there is such a large number of beautiful people there and interesting people. And when you're single and you live in LA, you just kind of get spoiled because every time you're going on a date with someone, you're going on a date with the hottest person that would be from your hometown. You know, Like the ugliest person I went on a date with in LA was still hotter than the hottest

Yeah, not a nice way to put it.

Yeah, Well, just from a physical standpoint.

A Colorado uh seven is like LA four exactly.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, and Colorado ten is like an LA seven, So for different reasons. But part of that too, is like my brother, I don't know if I talked about this on the podcast or not, or I was just thinking about it the other day. My brother, when I was a kid, I was like maybe fifteen, and he had just come back from San Diego because he was like twenty or something. He's like, Man, san Diego's great

I have a question, do you guys think that people are hotter in San Diego or La.

I haven't really spent enough time in San Diego, I would say LA.

I guess it just depends what you're into, because San Diego is more like surfer.

I mean, I'm more into that laid back lifestyle. But La, there's just such a bigger pool to choose from. But also, I don't know if I talked about this on the podcast either. Part of what makes La great is being single and living in that city, and that's why people spend all that money to live there. But once you get into a relationship, it's like, what are we paying all this?

I don't know.

Our friends are all married and still living there.

Yeah. No, we have like two friends.

Yeah, two friends, but their jobs keep them there, I guess, but.

Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, what were we talking about again? Sorry, I went on a long rant there.

Here we go. Number one, Let's get back. Number one.

The first the first sign, the first thread flag that she says to look for early on in the relationship is that when both parties start to over idealize the situation. So you know that if someone is too into you in the beginning of the relationship, they maybe love bombing you. They can't get to know you at the level within one or two dates, so don't fall for it. You need to set boundaries and ask your crush to slow things down if they start doing this to you.

Uh, dude, I don't know. It's so hard.

Like when you're early in a relationship, it's just like there's you know, the endorphments and all that crap, and just like you just want to see the person. So is it love bombing. I guess it could be, but it also could be just a sign of someone that's really into.

I've never been I've never been love bombed before, but

Yeah, in high school.

Probably.

What about you have I loved bombed?

Yeah?

I don't think so.

Have you been love bombed?

Oh?

Yeah, there's some weird guys in La GI give us some examples of the love bombing.

I don't know there was just like this weird guy.

And I feel like guys egos in LA are so big, so if you boast them or turn them down, they get super upset and they're like, well, I'm great, so why I don't know.

I feel like I've experienced that with Yeah, I don't.

Know that was I don't know.

I don't know how to how to explain it.

Really, Okay, have you guys ever experienced a relationship early on where you just were so obsessed with the person, Then after a few dates, after like everything you know, war or off, you're like, oh, wait a minute, maybe I don't like you as much as I need.

Not one hundred percent. And that's kind of what I was saying earlier too, as I would go on a couple of dates and I'd be like, Wow, this person is perfect, but I was like I was defining who I thought they were to myself versus letting them show me who they were, and then you get to know them better and you're like, oh, wait, this person actually kind of sucks for me. Sucks for me, not sucks, just sucks for me, you know.

M So the second red flag is kind of bouncing off that. She says Number two is monopolizing your social time. Again, she gets to it's so exciting when you meet somebody really like and you want to spend all their time with them. But she says this is actually a bad tactic because you need to live your own life. She said that if someone is attempting to alienate you from your friends or spend all of their time with you, it actually can be a sign of possessiveness.

Hmmm, interesting, I'll keep on. I mean, this girl, this girl that I dated in high school, was dating a guy before me, and I was like, why did you guys break up? And she said that he would always cancel his plans with his friends to hang out with her. And I was like, that sounds really nice of him, and she goes, no, I hate it so much. And so ever since then, I'm like, oh, okay, got to make sure you have your own social life going on.

Then that imprinted in your brain that really.

I always had a very formative brain at the time. It was like play though, you can mold it anyway you wanted, and she molded.

It for better or for worse.

Is this the same one that said, if you're accusing me of cheating, I might as well, cheat on your same exact one.

Yeah, yeah, sound logic right there.

Yeah.

I mean we all have those friends that as soon as they start dating someone, you just don't see them.

Oh yeah for a very long time. Yeah.

I was thinking that one of my best friends has been dating her boyfriend for I don't know, like five months now, And usually when my friends start a new relationship, I'm like, all right, I won't see you for like two to three months. It's whatever, So it is a

Yeah. I'll make sure to recall this exact conversation next time I want to go play golf and you're getting mad at me, Okay, I'll be like, it's healthy. Okay.

Yeah, it sucks because Ashley is the one who'll just tell me it's not healthy, and she wants to spend all the time with me, which is so great and wonderful, but also, like I want a golf. The third flag, Sabrina says, is selective listening. I feel like this is something Dean suffer sort of.

Are specific things that you said about things that pertain to them, but when it comes to your boundaries and non negotiables, they just kind of forget.

She says that this person is actually self centered. So what do you guys think about selective listening as the third flag?

Do you agree? I don't really really understand it.

I think she's saying that, like, so Dean, like, in the beginning of the relationship you and Kaylen, if you were like, Kaylen, there's you know, within a relationship, this is the one thing that would really bother me if it ever happened, And she's.

Like, yeah, of course, of course.

And then later on, like three months down the line, she's doing that thing and you're like, but I said, that's you know, important that it doesn't happen, and she's like, oh, I don't even remember you saying that. I feel like that happens sometimes. But it's also tough because it's like, I don't know. Sometimes Ashley says things to me and it's like in passing almost but it's important to her.

Mm hmm yeah, Dean Dean uh does that? Sometimes I knew you're.

Going to say that, which is because because you do it no, And Dean Dean will say, He's like, no, you can't do that.

You know my memory is bad, so.

What I just think that's so silly of you to say, because you do it more outen than I.

Okay, Okay, Oh my gosh, you're just an assassin mod today.

I'm not what do you mean, I'm not in assassy mood at all? Okay, then explained, No, you keep going. You're on you're on one. My brain is slow, so it doesn't work very well sometimes. But are you done? Okay? Yeah, we both have selected listening. I guess communication is just hard, man. You know it's not easy. It's not easy.

Well, that's why sometimes you just suck at being a newly why you know?

Trust me, the podcast gets true and true every single day. But that's why we're That's why we're all here, is to improve. We did have some emails, but I guess we don't I wanna. We don't have time to get to them today. Is that what we're thinking? Yeah, we'll do the next week. Say the emails for next week. Baby, We got some emails for next week. So if you were tuning in for the emails today, we apologize. But I guess I just means you're going have to tune

It just it was like a Tarantino twist, like it just fit everything.

So technically, it's like when you expect the movie to be two hours long and then it ends at like an hour and fifteen minutes into it, and you're like, wait a second.

But it was just such a perfect ending that Jared.

I want you to end it for us because I feel like that's probably the best way for us to do it.

All right, Greg, Well, we'll have emails for next week, Uh, Caitlin, myself, Dean, we'll all be back from parts unknown, and make sure you tune in because well, I can't guarantee we're gonna suck any less, but we're gonna try.

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