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We're gonna also try to make it like a little bit of a date spot, So anybody who's listening who's in like the Rhode Island, New England area and looking for like a cool first date spot, you should definitely check out Audrey's as longer as going on a first date, like late October early November, because if you come now, we won't be open, but we're gonna have like little uh game games that you can play at tables, like car games, so you can get to know each other better.

I always still thought, like what if Dean we had like dating advice cards and it was from bachelor people, So like there's a card on the table and it's like some sort of advice from you, and it will say, you know, Dean Angler. Yeah, that's a good idea. Are you gonna try to make like a Bachelor theme present in the restaurant? Yeah, a little bit. I mean, you know, obviously Ashley and I are very aware that we owe a lot to the Bachelor franchise and we're known for it,

so we want to pay homage to it. For example, there's a rose in the logo. There's gonna be certain names, uh, in the drinks or the food. We were also thinking maybe we'll name a drink, a coffee drink after you. We're thinking of Deanie's Coffee Beanies. What an honor that would be having a coffee named after me. You were the first one that came to mind, Deanie's Coffee Beanies. What about like Nick and Ben and Wells and all them?

You have to do them too. Oh, of course, I'm trying to think though, Like Nick was the next person, and I was like, I can't think of an name for Nick. We're thinking maybe some sort of like bitter coffee, you know, it's a little bit drier. But then like once you see there has like a sweet after taste. M chiseled abbs somehow to obviously tattoos all over the place. Um, that's that's funny, man. I would be honored to have

a drink named after me. I would have to taste test it too, and like, you know, give my my blessing on the drink, because I don't want to have like a crap not that you're gonna have crappy drinks that you'r you bite your tongue, my friend. Yeah, I was impressed by the size of the space. I was expecting it to be like a little rinky dinky coffee shop, but it's like a pretty I see. Like why lounge is part of the title that because it does feel

very loungey. Yeah, very loungey. So we're excited and like I said in the Captain and I truly meant it, the the opportunity to be a business owner, uh is really cool, and especially in my home state. And I wanted to be a family owned business and family run business. So being here surrounded by family and friends that can really support and help me means a lot. Um. So I'm excited, man. But so that's what's happening in my world.

What's up? Have you thought about who you're gonna like employ? Yeah? So I had actually a couple of interviews today and I actually just hired, uh, not officially, but she said she was gonna take the job, which is very exciting a manager and she's fantastic. So I'm super excited to work with her. And my dad's gonna help me manage it. Like I said, I really wanted to be a family business.

So he's gonna be very heavily involved in it. Ashley, you know, Ashley is gonna do what she does, which has come in and you know, shake hands and kiss babies that are not her own. Um, and uh, as long as he's as long as she's kissing hands, as long as she's not shaking babies and kissing hands, yes, flip that reverse it, but something along those lines. Uh. And it's cool. Man. I'm excited. But but how was your how was your travels? You're back in the States now,

I'm in at my home in Los Angeles. It was good man. I'm I'm bummed I missed last week's episode. I was. I'm sure you filled everyone in. I was in Alaska and I did not have cellphone reception and cellphone is up and started to come by in Alaska, believe it or not. Yeah, I feel like cellphone reception is difficult to come by in a lot a lot

of parts of the world. Yeah. Um, we were up at this like it didn't snow for the first like four days we were in Alaska in the very the second to last day, we got like a foot and a half and we were up at this remote cabin and uh, we didn't get stuck, but it definitely like delayed our departure and arrival to Anchorage or while Cila, I guess it is where we were. Uh. Last time I talked to you, guys, we did a double header from Greece and then obviously after that, Kalin and I

went to Italy. Oh wait, no, I did record an episode from Italy. Yeah, we were in the the Dolomites. That was when we had hand on Um, right, that's right, that's right. So yeah, so I talked to you from Italy. Italy was amazing. Italy was the most expensive trip I've ever been on my life, but it was worth every penny. We had an amazing time. Um. I definitely gained like twenty pounds of just eating spaghetti and drinking beer every single day, do you find that the food taste better?

It was so good, man. Every you would like find like a crappy looking little restaurant, the restaurant a pezzria as they were everywhere, and you're like, this food is not gonna be good, and then you get it and you're like, oh my gosh, that was the best spaghetti I've ever had in my entire life. Um As, I'm sure you can attest too, because you were in Positano. Yeah, oh my gosh, man, everything so so good. I love

Italy like we definitely. I think I talked about this last time I was on the podcast, but Caylin and I are really strongly considering, like when we move abroad, to to consider living in Italy for like six months. It's just so beautiful there, just like a nice little way of living. You say, move abroad, Yeah, Kyle and I we've talked about this before. Caylin and I have always wanted to live. Are serious, Yeah, oh dead serious. We've decided. We agreed mutually when Pappy dies is when

we'll finally move abroad. So don't put that thought into my head. I'm like emotionally wrecked now thinking about that. Oh no, Pappy's dying soon. He's like, what we keep taking We keep taking him the doctors because he keeps at acting like really strange, and every doctor like diagnoses him. It's actually a very concerned Well. He said that him and Kaylin are going to move abroad when Peppy dies, and he thinks that Peppy might you know, Pep, it

might happen sooner rather than later. I know, I'm more concerned about Pappy than the house. But he's Pepp He's got many good years. Pappy's twelve. He was just diagnosed at dementia. Uh, and I don't mean to laugh. Yeah, it's a dogge has dementia. It's funny. Well, the poor thing, Peppi's got dementia. He's got dementia. He's got like a brain tumor. He's got a heart murmur. He's got all these issues. So all Pappy, he's the sweetest soul ever.

He's gonna die soon, and uh, you know, we're hoping to give him a good couple last months, years, whatever it takes. But once that happens, we want to live in Italy. We maybe want to try to liveing in Japan. We want to try to live in South America. UM. I know it's not as easy as you saying, yeah,

we want to go try living these places. There's a lot of like hoops you have to jump through, but uh, for like short term live I think we could just do like two three month stints in each of those places. And Italy is high up on the list. Now we loved at least so much. But but yeah, I got back from Italy and flew straight to Alaska and started Scott Having Alaska. And it was crazy Scott having Alaska because we you know, we were Scott having just outside

of the d Nali National Park. You can't Scott in the actual national park. Um. But the people that were like flying us up and like taking us to altitude and like the lodge that we were landing at, I like asked and the guy was like, yeah, like I've lived here for you know, thirty five years, and I've never seen anyone skydive here. So like in our heads were like, we're the first people to ever skydive in this area, which is like super cool to think about.

It's also quite terrifying to think about. Yeah, well yeah, it's for a reason. I had my closest near death experience. The first day we were out there, I like slipped off the airplane as I was calling out the door, uh, and my head was like six inches away from smacking the tail of the airplane, which would have probably like ripped my head off, and it probably would have killed the pilot too, because like you know, he wouldn't had had a tail on the airplane anymore. So that was

pretty terrifying. Um. Colombia, Uh, they were like, yeah, we have this new uh gear we want you to like do a sponsored post with and I was like, perfect, I'll wear it in Alaska. And so I like was head to toe in this Columbia gear and it's so cold. Um,

when you're skydiving Alaska. Obviously we're like like ten thousand feet and the air temperature was like five degrees, but then with the windshill it got down to like minus fifteen degrees, and UM, it's just it's such a brutal thing because it's like you're, you know, you're about to jump out of an airplane and you're like, Okay, I just want to make sure like I can pull the things I need to pull, Like I can't really feel my fingers, so you like jump, you pull your parachute

and then you're just in the air for another probably three or four minutes. As you float down to the ground, and it's like your fingers start to freeze and like it just becomes like unbearably cold. Um. But it was a great experience. And if anyone is everything about Scott having Alaska, I don't know why you would be thinking about that, but I highly recommend it. So what is it about Alaska that makes it so appealing? Seeing how

you're freezing to death while plummeting towards their earth. You know, it's just I think it's one of those things like human nature. To be the first people to do something is pretty cool. I'm sure people have sky dive there before, maybe like around the area, but like, you know, to be one of the few people that have done it, it's pretty cool. Um. And just like the view, so like you're you know, you're basically right above the NWY National Park and now he is the tallest mountain north America.

So it's like just stunning views and there's like a beautiful blue alpine lake right below you. It's funny actually one of the second jump. So the first jump, I almost died because I slipped off the airplane. Terrifying. When he slipped off the airplane, you just like casually say these things and you're like, yeah, I was slipped out of the airplane. It was nothing. I was ten thousand feet and I tripped, I said, I shared that. I guess my WiFi must have cut out at this point.

It was the closest I've ever been to dying. I was crawling out of the airplane. You know, there are planes like ninety miles an hour or whatever it is, and we were trying to get the door. He was trying to get more open pretty slow, right, that's so slow. A commercial airline goes like five miles per hour. Right. Well, it's just like a little cessna. So it's just like hanging on its last limb. It's the Poppies of planes,

all right. It's the plane has dementia to um. Well, you know, the pilot goes as slow as you possibly can to like make it like do a bolt to get out there, but like you can't go much slower

than that. Otherwise the plane with stall and I was getting out of the door, and I couldn't get the door open because it was so windy, and as I was crawling out, the door like shut on me, and I like slipped off the airplane and I fell backwards off the airplane and I almost hit the tail of their airplane going ninety mile, so like my head missed it by like six inches, and like if I had hit it, I would have probably got de capitated and the and the pilot would have died too, because like

he wouldn't have had a tail on the airplane. So very close to killing myself there. Fortunately I escaped that injury. Um. But the second jump, uh, that was the same day. Yeah, So later that day I did a second jump and we took the door off, so I was able to get out of everything easily. But I had this this camera mount on my helmet that like it's like a six inch stick with the camera on top of it,

just to like add a little bit better perspective. And as I opened up my parachute, the the lines are like the thing the parachute that's connected to me like wrapped around the camera, and so it like ripped the camera off my head, which I'm very fortunate ripped off rather than like getting fully tangled, because that would be really bad. But they ripped the camera off my head and then, uh the camera felt seven thousand feet down

to the ground and didn't wrap around your neck. Well yeah, it wouldn't wrap around the neck, but it like it is like a pretty pretty scary snag point. Um, I got lucky that I didn't just like wrap around and stay there. You know, how does Kalin feel about all this? There's no way she's okay with it. There's no way. I think it's just like a blissal ignorance, you know, like I kind of tell her the things that she needs to know and I kind of keep the scary stuff out of it most of the time. I mean,

have you told her these stories? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I've actually got a picture too though. All uh, I was gonna post the TikTok because the first time and I almost killed myself. I hauled the camera so you can see very clearly like what happened. Um, but yeah, she, you know, she she she knows what I like it, and I think that's what she is okay with. She says that if I'm having fun, that's all that matters. Are you having fun? Are these need near dear near

death experience is fun? I mean I can understand obviously, you know, jumping out of planes and skydiving and doing all that in the adrenaline rush. But like when you're talking about, yeah, we're gonna be the first people ever jumping out of a plane going ninety miles per hour over Alaska when it's zero degrees outside. Oh, by the way, the door because it's so windy, the door slammed on me. I fell outside almost decapitated myself. It's like, all right,

there's a line. There's a line, and I think you're stepping over at my friend. That's pretty cool though, Like that you summarize that really well, and I think I'm even more excited after hearing you summarize it. Um what So the guys that I was with two they want to go back next summer over they want to fly helicopter over Dnally and like wingsuit down the side of Dnally and then land in the area where is in Alaska. Dnale is the tallest mount in North America? Got it? Yes? Okay,

clarifying I was never very good. Uh yeah, that's well. Now you'll know that answer whenever you get it. Well, I hope it's a clue tonight. Yeah, yeah, Y'll be ready for it. Yeah. Um. I will say though, while I was, I'm always terrified. Every time before I skied, I have like terrified, and this time, for some reason, I wasn't. I think I was because I was so cold and because it was so beautiful out there, So I wasn't as scared this time, even though I almost

killed myself. But that's fine, but I didn't, So it's okay. I don't even know how the hell the segway out of this one. Um. Well, we we do have some hot topics coming up, uh celebrity hot gossips. Not about Dean Decapitate decapitating himself. We have a bachelor relationship that unfortunately ended again uh this week. Uh you know, Uh, well, I'll tease it. I'll tease it afterwards in case you

guys don't know. There was a bachelor relationship, a high profile one that did end this week and they broke up. They've broken up before, unfortunately. We also have some tea about Will Smith being in an open relationship, which I feel like I've heard rumors about that for ten years, that Will Smith and Jada Pickett Smith are in an open relationship, but now apparently he has confirmed it. We also have some more hot topics about Jennifer Anderston, who

we know is a big Bachelor fan. Uh, talking about getting back into the dating world. So make sure you stay tuned for that. We're going to get into it after the small brain. All right, welcome back to help I second dating. As I t s prior to our break there was a bachelor relationship that did come to an end once again. And I say once again because they've broken up before and now they broke up again Dale Moss and Claire Crawley and did their relationship and quote,

it's for good this time. So I'll give you a little bit of a synopsis. Is that what you're asking for? Yeah, I was gonna say, catch me up to speak. All right, here we go. So the bachelorettes Dale Moss and Claire Crawley, of course have split up once again, and apparently it's for good this time. So back in January, the couple who met, of course on ABC's sixteenth season of the Bachelorette before Tasha took over, broke off their engagement after

a world win of a romance now. A source told the Page six article, which is what I'm reading from that at the time, that the pair couldn't agree on some major issues like which state to live in and how soon to start having kids. Do you remember that, Dean when she on National TV and Chris was interviewing Dale and Claire, and then Chris was like, so, what's next for you guys, and She's like, babies, babies, Yeah,

I remember. So I'm curious if he was just like, hey, let's hold off for a couple of years, and she's like, I want kids now, which I I don't blame Claire honestly, She's I feel like, been pretty much upfront, UH this entire time with all of her relationships throughout her time of The Bachelor, which has been I want kids. I want a family immediately now. So if you're gonna date me, you better be ready for it too. So I actually don't blame her in that aspect, even if she kind

of was a little eager in that moment. So I I digress. The former NFL player Dale, I wonder which team he played for? Uh said he did not play for the NFL, did he really? I don't know it says here that the former NFL player, I think he might have been a practice squad guy. I don't want to like say he was practice squad. If he actually made the team, who knows. But anyway, Dale said at the time, building a relationship in general is tough, especially when you're doing it in the public eye, and the

media will take things and run with them. People will spread lies or always want to point the finger. But the fact of the matter is there's no one person to blame in this situation. But by February, of course we all know they reconciled and were spotted together in Venice, Florida. They were soon seen smooch in in New York, and by April Dale told the Hollywood Podcast that he and Claire were in a good play. I remember that because he didn't confirm if they were dating or not. He said,

we're definitely taking time and spending time together. But the Insider on Monday apparently said that Dale and Claire have split again. This time it's good. It did not end well? Uh so are I mean? My first question, Dean, are you shocked by this news? I? I am shocked. I Well, how do you feel about it? Well? I got there. My thoughts, I I guess I'm shocked about how quickly it ended, because you know they when was her season when they start, so last October September somewhere around there,

I believe. Okay, Ashley the Bachelor informant told me that she they were engaged in August, so I'm maybe the dating for a couple of months ended in February, got back together and have been dating for a couple of

months ever since. So you would imagine that after the first break up, if they got back together, especially being in the public eye like Dale talks about, they'd have a little bit stronger ever found nation and have a pretty good idea that they want to move forward with this and kind of take you know, some time and really figure out, I don't know, really invest in this relationship. And I guess after a couple of months, I just

figured that it's not going to work out. I do feel bad for Claire Claire as her friend, she's a really good person. I like Claire a lot, uh you know I I I want her to find a man. I both Ashley and I were very excited when she became the bachelorette. You know, she's been through this thing a few times. We've kind of grown with Claire Crawley a little bit, from her time talking, you know, on Juan Pablo to talking to the raccoon on Paradise to

ultimately becoming the bachelorette. So I think we're very hopeful that she was going to find her man, and unfortunately it doesn't appear that that's the case. So hopefully she just finds a guy outside the Bachelor, That's what I really hope. I'll tell you exactly what happened. I I I appreciate you divulging all that because it gave me time to collect my thoughts anytime. I know exactly, I

know exactly what happened. This is what happened everyone, And yeah, I'm gonna speak very matter of factly because that's just how confident I am in this assessment that I'm about to make. So they Dale and Claire got engaged after that, like incredibly abbreviated amount of time on the show, right, Like everyone was like, wow, crazy Claire blew up the show for Dale. Whatever. That's crazy in and of itself, But Dale, I feel like was never fully invested in

the relationship. That's why they broke up. Once they broke up, Dale started to see the backlash that he was receiving. And Dale, Uh, he's not an idiot, you know, like he very bad press, like very bad pr I think he wants to get into hosting and all this kind of stuff. And it's like, what that kind of negative press around to you. You're not gonna get any of those jobs, you know what I mean. So he starts to see all this backlash he's receiving, and so what's

his response. He wants to then get back together with Claire because he knows that with Claire he can achieve his professional goals a lot easier. So he gets back together with Claire. The script starts to turn around back and people start to like like Dale a little bit more. He starts to see more like brand opportunities come through as as it's I mean, that's there's not dying, that's

definitely the truth. Uh, And then you know, they started getting to other again, and Dale starts to remember like why they broke up the first time and how incompatible they are, and he's already kind of saved face in the eyes of everyone else out there, and so he's like, Okay, cool, like, you know, there now we can break up and there's gonna to be no bad blood because it's like we got back together. We tried, and we were together for

a little bit longer. So it was it was a pr move from Dale to be able to find a career in hosting whatever it is. That's that's my assessment. I mean, I I love your take because of how dramatic it is. Uh, it's like this, it's just so true. I know it. I know it to be true, and I will not accept anything else. And I like, you know, there's a there's a first very strange hills I'll die on. Um, this is one of those strange hills. What's another deal?

A dell Holely crap, what's another deal? Oh my god, let me collect my thoughts. People, what's another hill that you would die on? Um? It's I can't rattle off the top of my head, I think. But you know, I get weirdly passionate about certain things. How you do I love it Things that don't matter in the slightest, things that I have no bearing on, that have no bearing on me as an individual. Should I even uh say what I think about this situation? Because it's definitely

not as cool as yours. Yeah, please, I'd love to hear it. It's definitely not as dramatic. I think that Dale listen, he went on the show to possibly find love, but he went on the show for a business opportunity as well, and I think he wanted to kind of experience the Bachelor. You know, I have fame or experience whatever you want to call it. Um not to say like, I feel like there's a lot of people that go

in with, you know, wanting to experience different things. And I think Dale met Claire, liked Claire, and I think Claire fell head over heels for Dale and was all in from day one and didn't want anybody else. And Dale was like, okay, I like you, let's take it slow, and Claire did not want to take it slow. And so I think ever since then, it's been this battle. If I had a guess of Claire wanting to move move forward and move quickly and be like, hey, I'm all in on you. Are you all in on me?

And he's like, well, yeah, I think I like And then he keeps going back and forth, back and forth, back and forth, trying to slow play it, and I think it probably just came to a head recently where Claire was like, you're either in or you're out, and he was probably out. That's my gut, that's what my gut tells me. Well, and that's what That's what I'm saying. I agree with you. He went on the show as to maybe find love, which we all do. Like there's

there's no denying that. There's like business opportunities that come from it, but like if you fall in love also fantastic, right, Like there's no shame in that. Um. I I would bet a million dollars that I don't have that if Dale was the Bachelor and Claire was on his season, she would never have made it to his final one. You know, really, I just don't. I Like you said, I think Claire was all in head over heels with Dale. Dale was kind of just like so you think he

would have left the show early. No, I think that if Dale was the Bachelor and Claire was a intestint on his season, he would not have chosen her at the end. It would have been some other girl. I agree. I also will go one step further. I bet that if Claire had an entire season, Dale might have removed himself because he wasn't as invested in the relationship with Claire as Claire was with him. That's my gut. Yeah, that's a good that's an interesting take to he never

really had that chance to because the season was abbreviated. Yeah, and so I don't really blame either party in this. I truly don't. I know people are just gonna immediately put the blame on Dale. I don't think it's entirely his fault. And now, granted this is speaking for someone who's thirty thousand feet away, but I think he was someone who you see all the time in everyday life, whereas one person is more invested in the relationship than the other and then kind of slow play. And it

was only a few months. It wasn't like this was a relationship to less than eight years. So listen, if this kept going and going and going, I totally agree, it's like Dai either should or get off the pot. But you know, they were just kind of going back and forth. So I think it's probably best that they just go in their different directions. And I really hope that Claire meets a very nice guy. I think she

needs a guy. I've always envision Claire with a guy who's like rugged in his forties, like ready to go, ready to settle down, get married, Like that's the type of person I think Claire, I hope find Yeah, I don't think again, I don't, like you said, we're thirty thou feet away from it, So what the heck do we know? But that's what we do. We speculate, right, So I I agree with you. I I don't think that. Uh, I don't think that Dale is ready for a relationship

like that. And I mean, you can't blame the guy either. You know, you go on the show. He's incredibly handsome, uh tall, charismatic, good look, good looking smile. So you know, you go on the show, you you achieve a certain level of like recognition for being on that show, and you want to kind of like soak it up a

little bit and enjoy yourself. And uh, if you're not like super crazy about the person that you're with at the time, it kind of like there's a lot of reasons for you to be like, well, maybe we should break up then, because it's like if you're not all in on the relationship, then you know, if there's a

lot of temptations. What I do blame Dale is proposing, bro, if you're not all in, Like, I know, it's a show and it's a format, and you probably felt a pressure to propose, but come on, like, if you're not all in, don't propose, bro. For sure, they wanted him to, They probably like he probably didn't want to, and then the producers probably were like, you should do it, and then eventually I think he would just should have done it even if they were like, yeah, why don't you

just do it? Try it out, see what happens, because then because then you're really misleading Claire, I fully agree. Um, I think I can share this. I so I don't know if you watch Bachelor in Paradise last week, but Caitlin and I were in the teaser for the funal Yeah, and uh, I think I could share this out and see why wouldn't be able to. When we were down there, the producers were like they like pulled me aside and they were like, hey, Dean, you should really you should

totally propose to Caylin. And the last day of the show, my god, I was like, are you serious, Like you're telling me this like literally the day before we're supposed to go down in like film this episode, and so I guess all that to say that, you know, the producers are not bashful when it comes to trying to encourage people to propose. Of course, I don't think anybody would assume otherwise wouldn't be very good TV if they weren't.

But you should have just showed your off your wedding ring and be like, wait, talking about we're already married guys, right right? Well, yeah, I mean maybe you have to tune and find out maybe we uh maybe I do actually do it. But I guess that's that's my point is, you know, Dale is definitely getting a lot of pressure on the outside. There we go Tuesday Night, ladies and gentlemen. You're gonna see Kaylin and Dean tie the knot nice little teaser for you. Tune in, you might see it,

you might see something else. Who knows. All I know is it's gonna be good television. Uh I love it? Uh so are Our next hot topic is, of course, like I tease about Will Smith, who just revealed that he has an extramarital relationship where apparently Jada wasn't the only one. I feel like I've heard this for years that Will Smith and Jada Pickett Smith have had an open relationship. I guess now it's just being confirmed. According into this Yahoo article, Yeah who, it's always fun to say.

Fans of the Smith's have wondered for some time, like myself if Will Smith has cheated on Jada Pickett Smith in the past. I don't know if I wondered that, but I did about the open relationship. While according to Will himself, his wife is quote not the only one who has had an extra marital relationship. Will Smith confirmed that he and Jada Pickett Smith have an open relationship

and admitted she's never believed in a conventional marriage. As a refresh, Jade, Jada, excuse me and Will previously appeared on a bombshell episode of The Red Table Talk Back in July of last year to discuss allegations made by rapper August oh Boy Alcina I think that's say, who claimed that he had a relationship with the fifth year old girl Trapped star Jada Pickett Smith. According to August, the rapper, Will Smith even gave him his blessing to

continue the relationship for years. While rets for the Smith's initially denied August's claims. The couple eventually went on to confirm the story themselves. During their Red Table Talk episode, Will and Jada revealed that the relationship took place during

a period of separation during their marriage. Now just over a year since the couple, the couple addressed the extramarital relationship, Will Smith that Will Smith has confirmed that his wife was not the only one to have a relationship with someone else during their twenty three year marriage. Quote. The public has a narrative that is immpeturable, impenetrable. This rhode island education in penturable? Am I saying that right? I am pe n E t R A b l E

like you can't penetrate it. Impenetrable, impenetrable, impenetrable. Well that's a difficult world. I'm also exhausted. I need some water anyway. Will want to say the public has a narrative that is impeneturable. Well, it's the public decides something. It's difficult to it's difficult to it's difficult to impossible. Oh, it's difficult to impossible to dislodge the pictures and ideas and perceptions.

Uh So he goes on to talk about this Jada had family members that had an unconventional relationship, so she grew up in a way that was very different than how I grow up. There was a significant you know, there's been significant discussions about it. Point is that they have had an open relationship and monogamy was what they chose. Uh so, yeah, what do you think about I guess I want to know what your thoughts in general are

about open relationships. Well, I don't think that we can use Will and Jada Pinkett Smith as examples for an open relationship because they're beautiful, wealthy people, you know, like they are. They can't really be the standard for that stuff just because their lives are so much different than us. Know. But open relationships, man, that's gonna be tough. I've never personally been in one. Um, I if it works for it works for you, I would I'm inclined to say

that like open relationships. I would imagine like one person wants to have the open relationship and the other person just as like agreeing with it. Yeah, and so I always I always feel like one person wants it more and that imbalance is never a really good thing. Um. But if it works, man, I like, but that's the

thing too. It's like Will and Jada Pinkett Smith, like you know, Will Fresh Prince of bel A or like, come on, this guy, if you wanted to, like he could, like you know, he's not like he wouldn't have a hard time like finding he's Will Smith. He'd be fine, That's what I'm saying. So it's like, you know, if like I don't know, I guess my brand is a little fuzzy right now, but like it's a little different for them just because they have a lot more access

to other people than a normal person would. Yeah, I I don't get open relationships. I mean, if you can do it, if you're able to handle it and handle the jealousy and everything that comes with it, good for you, because it is tough. I mean, you know, Ashley and I have been married. I see her I and other guys. Um, I don't actually, But the point is, of course, like you know, you're in a committed relationship, especially for someone like Will Smith and Jada Pickett Smith who have been

married for twenty three years. I'm sure there have been temptations. You know, we're just human beings at the end of the day. But it's what you do with those temptations that really decides what type of person you are. So having an open relationship with open communication is something that I can at least wrap my head around, but I don't think i'd ever be able to do it because the jealousy factor would would be huge. You know, Listen,

I'm not an overly jealous guy. But then if you're talking about someone being intimate with my wife, then that's something I don't think I would just be able to handle. Um. Ashley goes, what about me right now? Because she's very pimplee, which is okay, that's I love your pimplee face. It's not even that pimple It's fine, But I digress. Um. You know, I just I don't think I could do it, like you know, obviously we talked about what's the relationship

called when you have three people? Thruble, thruple, thank you. So even thrumples, you know, is somewhat of a committed relationship. You're just committed with three people instead of two, or you're committed with two people instead of just one other. But an open relationship, I mean that just opened so many doors. For lack of a better phrase, that I'm

not sure i'd be able to walk through. I mean, I'm I'm on the same boat too, Like to think about someone hooking up with the person that I love, it was like kind of it's like a punch in the gut, you know. Yeah, And I don't even know if, like i'd want to would you even want to meet the other person? Say, like Caitlin was like, Hey, I want to be in a relationship. There's this guy that I met that I really want to be with. Would you want to meet him? Like, would you were would

you not even want to know who he is? That's a really good question. Actually, I don't know. I kind of like my blood is boiling just thinking about it. To be honest, um, I would probably be like if Caitlin was like really into the idea, I'd probably like give it a fair shot, I suppose, um, and I would probably meet the guy I guess to see to get, you know, size him up and get a feel for him.

I don't think I would be able to, like, you know, like, if you're in an open relationship that would also include like you going out and looking up with people. I don't think I would be super comfortable with like doing that either like imagine like waking up in the morning next to someone that's not Ashley, you know, or like my case, Calin obviously that's just be so weird. Yeah, it would be really weird, And I don't think i'd

feel too good about it even in the moment. It's like it's just you feel like a piece of crap. I don't know, even if you're on the same page, I don't know if I'd be able to do it. But here's a good question for you, Dean. What if Klin said, Hey, listen, I want to be in an open relationship and I met this girl that I want to bring in, I would still be weirded out by it, to be honest, I think I've talked about this before.

I've like I've had one threesome in my life. Um, but I've been gratulations for, thank you, I've been propositioned for for some of those, like later in life, like in my like mid twenties. Um, like like a girl that I was like cooking up with, like let me bring my friend in kind of thing, and every I'm like scared. I'm like, no, I'm not, I don't I'm not interested in that like I would be terrified a lot of expectation. I wouldn't know what to do. Um yeah,

you're like, what do I do with my left hand? Well, my or my right hand? Should I just have my hands up right? Right? So I think that if Caitlin came with that idea again, I would like be interested, Like if she wanted it, I would be like, Okay, I guess we can like see what happens. But um, I wouldn't really be stoked by it, which I think is a weird thing for a guy to say. But yeah, what what would you think? No, I mean like, initially I gotta, you know, my gut raction be like that's interesting.

But I really think when I put more thought to it, I I don't think i'd want to do it, because again, it's just introducing so many, um not red flags, but so many conversations that I just don't feel like having, you know, like you said, it's just not worth it. Let's say Ashley Walks as the Red Carpet or something like that in Hollywood meets Rachel McAdams, becomes best friends, and then as she's like, hey, Rachel McAdams wants to be a throuble with us. What do you think I mean,

now you're throwing Rachel McAdams at me, bro. I mean, that's a little there. I think even Ashley would agree. That's a little different. You know. That's that's fantasy land right there. But no, no no, no, no, no, no, the answers, no, the answers. No. Okay, that's it. It's just me and her for the rest of our days. That's right, Ashley, Right, yeah, she said, yeah, all right, last hot topic before we go into a break, just to address it quickly because

we talked about it before the break. Jennifer Anderston wants to start dating. I didn't even know she took a break from dating. Quote. I think I'm ready to share myself with another. So the Morning Show Star stopped by Sirius XM's Lunch with Bruce podcast. I don't know who that is, but it must be pretty big if Jennifer Anderson is on it. Maybe it's a Bruce Uh, what's the guy's name, spring star Willis? Bruce Willis? Is it Bruce Willis? No? I don't think so, but that would

be pretty cool if Bruce Willis had a podcast. He's not much of a talker. I feel like they dated for a brief. Olm it on that show Friends that she was on. Oh my god, that's right. I totally forgot about that. Wow, let's bringing back memories. I forgot that Bruce Wilson was on Friends. Um anyway, while I get lost in thought, uh so where am i? Jennifer Anderson opened up about her love life. She announced obviously her split from ex husband justin throw back in two

thousand eighteen. She's still single, but she's open to love. Quote, there hasn't been time to date, and it's covid um. Although people seem to have met and found love during covid I don't know how it works. I'm curious to walk up to those people and go so what happened? Anderson added that quote, No one of importance has hit my radar yet, but I think it's time. I think I'm ready to share myself with another I didn't want to for a long time, and I loved really being

my own woman without being part of a couple. I've been part of a couple since I was twenties, so there was something really nice about taking the time. No Tinders and no Riyah please, I'm an old school girl. Uh, people don't come up to people anymore. People don't do that. It's weird. She went on to say, Uh, she talked about how important a good first kisses. Uh. She goes on quote she Oh, she also talks about how important conversation flow is. That's a good indicator whether it's going

to be um a funny and healthy relationship. She talks about how she wants a guy who's not cocky, but he's funny, be generous, kind to people. So she's fifty two years old. Uh, there's never too late of a time to date, especially at fifty two. Plus she looks like she's thirty seven. I mean, the woman only gets better with age. It's crazy, but Dean, let me ask you hypothetically, Let's play in a fantasy world that in twenty years you end up being single. Kalen couldn't take

your skydiving adventures anymore. She needed something different. So you're fifty two years old, you get back into the dating world. Do you think it would be super intimidating? I would only I don't even know what i'd you, dude, I've been I've been out of the game for two years, and I think you'd be intimidating. If I, like, if Caylen broke up with me tomorrow and I had to do it, I'd be like, I would be so overwhelmed. I thought that Jennifer Anderson was dating David Swimmer again

or something. Now there was there was that friends reunion and apparently there was talks that they hung out during filming or after filming. Hey, ash, when did David him Swimmer and Jennifer Anderson? Did they ever have a thing? I probably didn't have a thing. So m Barently people thought they were together, but they're not together. That's that mumber has been debunked here on help us like a dating Yeah, I mean that's gotta be tough though, to get back into the dating pool um after being out

of it for so long. But at the same time too, like there is a lot of niceties about it, Like Jennifer was saying, you know, she had the chance to she has a chance to like be herself and do whatever she wants to now. And you know, once you reach a certain like age, I suppose you're just like you know exactly who you are, you know exactly what you want, you need, and so I think once you get a lot of like the nuances of dating out

of it. Like you know, when you're dating when you're eighteen, you just don't really know what the heck you're doing. But that part it's gotta be kind of nice. You know. You can be like direct, you can be forward, you can clearly state what you like what you dislike. Um. But it's like, you know, Jennifer, I feel like there's this thing with Jennifer Andiston and then a lot of the celebrities too, Like it's funny, we were just talking

about the Will Smith thing, um. And while I do think they have access to a lot to meeting a lot of people, I bet you there's like a lot of fear for people, like you know, to just approach Jennifer Aniston and be like, hey, like, you're really pretty, canna be go on a date? Like I'm sure that doesn't happen as much as we think it does, because could you imagine going up to Jennifer Anderson and be like, hey,

dude and trying to flirt with him. I remember Night one having to go up to Caitlin and Britt and seeing them on the previous season of the Bachelor. They were celebrities to me, I was like, oh, I'm supposed to flirt with I'm supposed to be the one who's hitting on these girls. Are you out of your mind? I'm terrified. What's what's Britt doing that? Do you know?

She actually from what I remember, she got back together with her boyfriend prior to the show and they're I think they're married and have kids now, and she's doing really well. I think, well, yeah, I know, very happy for her. And then obviously Caitlin is okay. So man, I we really just need Ashley. You know how they have fact checkers. We need Ashley needs to be our fact checker for help. I second dating because she knows

like around the Horn or something like that. There's that ESPN show where after every episode they talked about about what they did wrong. Yeah, that could be Ashley for us. We really do need Ashley for that. So apparently Britt has been married for four years and has a daughter, so she's doing very well. But yeah, I don't know if anybody goes up to Jennifer Anderson because that would be quite intimidating. I also had something, Oh I know what I was gonna say, I know how to get

Jennifer Anderson back into the dating world. I mean, it's clear as day. She's beautiful, she's ready to find love, she's ready to find her husband. She's a huge Bachelor fan. I mean, ladies and gentlemen, coming Spring two, your new bachelorette, rachel from Friends, I mean, come on, yeah, I mean, if they are talking about having a senior quote unquote bachelor season. Obviously fifty two is not quite senior, but hey, kick it off of the bang, that would be that

would be hilariously amazing. Um, And I'm sure the ratings would be through the roofs for something like that, you

know what. And it could be a little like you said, it wouldn't be a senior bachelor season, but I'm sure Jennifer wants to date somebody, you know, probably in his forties fifties, So I think it would be quite interesting actually if the Bachelorette kind of went a little bit older, because I mean, granted, you'd have to cat Jennifer Anderson to become the bachelorrette, which I don't think is very easy because she's, you know, one of the biggest celebrities

in the world. But it would be cool to see her date other guys who were you know, older, and we had an older season. It wouldn't be as dramatic, obviously, because the cattiness wouldn't be as as you know, prevalent, But it would be pretty cool to see, you know, my ex girlfriend actually is on the season and the next bachelor really ext girlfriend, Like, how how important of an ex? Very well, she was like one of the main exes. She was my girlfriend from college. I talked

about her on the podcast a few times. Um, but I told the So the producers like called me and they're like, hey, we're thinking about casting this person. What do you think of her? We know that you dated, you know, ten years ago. And I was like, oh, like, she's great. If she gets selected for the show, she'll either win the show or she'll be the next Bachelor at And I firmly believe that. But she's thirty one.

So if she becomes Bachelor atte Claire's thirty nine, so I guess they're already kind of skied a little bit older with her. But yeah, the thirty one is a great age. Yeah, it's not fifty two by any stretch of the imagination. Are you in her name or do we want to keep this confidential for I guess, I don't know. It's up to you. I mean, it's public information already. I'll I'll keep teasing it because we got a lot of time leading up to the season and I want to see if you can figure out who

it is. Maybe one of the season is airing. How long did you guys date for it? Just like a year and a half because it was just like a college relationship. We did it for a year and a half, but a long time, yeah, especially at that age we were both nineteen. But yeah, she was like she was probably the second love of my life, if you will.

And it's funny actually, Ca when I got cast for the first show I was on, she texted me and she was like, oh, you know, it's funny to like, could to see you moving on finally or something like that. And so then when she got cast, I like text her has like, it's funny, it's good to see you moving on, which is funny. How it like she was given me crap for going on the show. You now

she's going on the show. It's kind of silly. Um, but yeah, I guess, uh, it'll be funny to see that, but interesting, Well, We're gonna have to keep up today with that as the season progresses. What's really funny too, is Kylin has a good friend that's on the season as well, and uh she Kaylin is convinced that her friend will either win or become the next Bachelorrette. And so Caitlin and I have a bet going to whose whose friend is gonna go further. It's gonna be a

fun season to watch. Oh well, yeah, we gotta get names once once the season starts airing. We gotta get Kaylin's guy's name, and so we'll see how far he goes. And then once the new Bachelor season airs, will get your girl's name, and then we'll see how far she goes. Isn't it kind of weird how they they have they announced the Bachelor because we haven't even met the guy yet. It's extremely weird. Ashley and I were talking about it.

Why are you announcing the women so early? And because when I first saw it, I thought, oh, this must be some sort of spoiler for the upcoming season to the Bachelor. And then I saw the pictures and I was like, oh, they all they all look like they've been taken in the same area that's weird. And then I found out that it was those official Bachelor photos were you know, just posted and it was like, no, this is the cast of the season and this is

the official announcement. It was like, what the hell, we haven't even gotten Michelle's season yet. We haven't even gotten Michelle's season yet. And yeah, it's just so it just seems so rushed. Not rushed, but like just it definitely seems weird. It's weird. They even put on like the Bachelor Facebook page. That's how we well that's not how we found out, but um, it was just it's just

weird to see that. The only thing I could think of is that they were trying to get ahead of spoilers and they're like, before anybody can even spoil who the girls are, we'll just put them out there. Yeah. Maybe I don't know. Interesting anyway, we do have, of course, an email from our wonderful listeners who's listened to this right now. Thank you, by the way for listening to

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addressed to me as well as Eastern and Jared. So here I am, and it's from Lily, one of my chopp Liver. Well, I think it's about you, Dean. I think that's the Lily says. I have a question for Mark Easton and Jared. I'm curious to hear your perspective. Seeing as though you guys have seen Dean every week for the past few years. What have you guys noticed about Dean and his relationship with Kaylin compared to his past relationships. Is he different with her than he was

in the past when they first started dating. Did you think was going to laugh or did you think it was going to be a short fling. Good question. Uh, anybody want to go first or me, I'll go first. I thought it was gonna be a short fling. I feel like at the time, I considered Dean uh a non monogamous sort. I felt like he was a guy that was not someone who committed to a relationship or really anything. By the way, and in love life, he's not committing to anything ever. It makes it it's just

against who he is. It makes him feel claustrophobic to be committed to something regularly. So I thought it was just another flame and great, good for you, have a good time. She's lovely and that's awesome. Uh. Since then, I've noticed the difference. He talks more openly about her, about the relationship, about their future together, about marriage, he's talked about in the show, about kids, whether yes or no. It's just everything is more on the table with him

with this relationship. I don't claim to be his best friend or anything. I just see him for this podcast every week for what three or four years now, And that's what I've noticed is is he is all in. He does not seem to be claustrophobic at all. He seems to really legitimately be enjoying his life with Kalin and it may end up being his life with Calin. Wow, that's beautiful. Thanks Mark, that was beautiful. Eastern I'll go down the line. I have to agree with Mark. I

I did. I did not see this going the distance. Um uh I And just because um, I mean, like Mark said, Dean, I I you know, I didn't take you as the long term relationship type. Uh. And also I hope this isn't causing a problem by mentioning this, but I have a memory of um years ago, right

when you first started dating Klin. We were at some podcast thing and like Tahoe Arena or something like that, and uh, you know, we were at a a casino and you were running around screaming or something, and Kalen and I were eating pizza, and uh, she looked at me and she's like, what did I get myself into? Is he like? And I was like, oh, man, she's she's gonna wise up in bail at some point. But um no, And just like Mark said, I mean, I have noticed that you've You've matured so much before our

very eyes. You've grown into this beautiful young man. And you're You're so open to talking about things I really didn't think you'd be interested in. Uh, you know, building a life with this person. Having all these experiences has just been really exciting. And I don't know, I'm just excited to see you grow further with her. Oh. Thanks Euston. It's funny that you bring up that that Tahoe night because Caitlin ribs me for it all the time. She I was, I think that's probably drunk as I've ever

been in my entire life. I was like, I had the hiccups. I remember I like put a beer on my seat at the concert and totally forgot that it was there, and I sat down onto the beer. Uh. And so she she gives me a lot of crap for that, But that is funny to think that was like two weeks into our relationship. Yeah, to answer your question, I definitely have seen a change. Indeed, Um, I think

I was torn whether it was gonna last or not. Um. But I'll never forget going back into the I Heart studio when you had just left Paradise and you were only gone for like a week. Because I don't even think you missed an episode of the podcast because the next week you were there and I was like, holy crap, you're already back from Paradise and you were like, yeah, I left, blah blah blah. And then you were like, yeah,

but I think I'm going back down tomorrow. I was like, when you mean back down tomorrow and he's like, well, I broke up with you know, I did things of Caylin. I I can't stop thinking about her, and I really think I just messed up, and I want to go back down and why I missed her. I want to date here. And I remember talking to you and I was like, if you're just going down for Kalin, I

think you should totally do it. I think you should just go if you're only going for Kalin, and you say, hey, I'm either leaving with you or leaving without you, but I'm not staying here. So I'm so glad you did it.

And when you went back down, I knew that you were going to really invest in the relationship because of how much you cared about Calin and how you really wanted to put time and effort into it, especially if you're gonna make this grand romantic gesture like going back into Paradise that you were going to really take the time in the effort to invest, and and you have, and I I think it is interesting to see an

evolution in Udine. I mean, obviously you still, like you know, barely show up to the podcast, and your wife I never work, so some some things will never change, which I love and is so endearing of you. But I can also see a change in you when you talk about Kalin, because I agree with both Mark and Easton. I think a lot of times when you were talking about your future, even you know, when you first started saying Klin, a lot of it was like what you

thought your future was gonna look like. And now when you talk about the future, you talk about the future with Klin and her being a part of that life. And so that's really cool to see because it's just it's like, oh, yeah, you know, Kalin is gonna be there in my future because we're in a relationship together and that's kind of the way it's gonna go. Where before, when you were single, obviously you talked about this future

of not knowing what you're gonna do. You're gonna live in a van and just travel the world, and you want to be a loner, and you don't want to be in a relationship. And so to see Klin kind of change that uh in you has been really cool. This is a fun little bit. It's funny you guys talk about me. I gotta be honest, and there's a

lot of do you think you've changed? Uh? Yeah, well one second, but Mark and Easton, it's funny to hear you guys talk about how I was committed to not committing to anything, and I felt that there was a little bit of, Uh, you guys are personalizing a little bit. I sense a little bit of frustration with the podcast here. I so I appreciate that. But you're absolutely right. Um,

have I felt the change? Yeah? I um, especially in the past, like it's were like, you know, over the past like six months especially, Uh, I don't know, I just yeah, I guess I've always like when I went back to Paradise to date Kalin, which I was whether to do that or not in Jared, that conversation that we had back in the podcasting room was what sent me over the edge to go back and do it. You're like why not? Just You're like, why not? Just do it? So yeah, So actually I do I owe

our relationship to you. So I appreciate that. I don't know about that, but I appreciate it. I knew that I was gonna, like I would fully dive into the relationship, but um, it's going. Yeah, I mean it's going better than I ever could have hoped. So I'm super happy.

But I I guess that changing myself like it's it's weird because I always kind of the reason I shied away from like commitment and monogamy and all those kind of things because I felt like it would hinder my ability to do with the things that I wanted to do like ghost gott I have in Alaska or whatever it is. Uh. And the nice thing about this relationship, and I think most relationships that are just like healthy,

is that I can still do whatever I want to do. Um, I just now get to share a lot of those experiences with the person that I love. And that's that's

super nice and unique and a wonderful thing. But I like, she doesn't like prohibit me from you know, going out and getting wasted at a casino and screaming and the casino and then going and Scott having Alaska are you know, going into Paul or whatever it is so like all of the things that I was worried about entering a relationship to, like that that we're gonna like hold me back or like hinder me um are They're just not as real as I thought they were gonna be. So

that's really nice. Two things. One, I have a quick question because I think that's gonna it's gonna be interesting the next few years if Klin wants kids, and if you want kids, because I do think that that might hinder your ability to run around a casino and sit on your beer or almost get decapitated by a plane while jumping out of it in Alaska, in Serrara, gree Weather. So I'm curious about that and if you're open to that.

And secondly, it's interesting hearing you talk about Kalin because subconsciously, first of all, you're such a cotrarian. When you talk about Kalin and nobody's asking you about it, you sound so lovely, dovey and just how into you like you can just hear how much you love her. But then anytime, like we ask you to actually talk about it, you're always like, well, you know, we'll see, we'll see how it goes. And it's like you son of a bitch. I yeah, I hate the performative nature of that stuff.

You know. It's like, I don't I'm not a dancing monkey. I don't want to just like you know, put on this little show for you guys. But yeah, I guess whenever it comes up naturally, I don't mind talking about it quite as much. But right it definitely is the contrarian in me. Uh. It stems from an issue that I have with authority and you guys their authority figures let me ask questions like that. Maybe that's what it is. Um. But the kids thing, Yeah, I mean Caitlin and I

talk about kids. I It's funny because when we first started dating, she was like, A wants kids, probably like four kids or something like that. Um, and I have like, you know, I've always wanted kids in a way, but I've gone back and forth on the on them, just because I know how much of a responsibility they are and with my life being so uncertain, like I don't know if I'll be able to take care of myself for the next ten years, Like how on earth could

I take care of a child? You know what it means? That's kind of where the uncertainty stems from that, but we both kind of we're both continuously like shifting our ideas on children. Like she she definitely still wants a kid. I think she at this point wants like one kid. Um, But she's still so young, she's twenty six, and so I don't think we're in any rush. And I think like the longer we wait, the better of a decision

will be able to make. You know, like let's say in three or four years, we completely change our minds and we don't want kids. If we have a kid next year, then we can't have that decision because hey, we already have a kid. But if we take you know, three more years to figure it out and really decide what we want to do together, uh, then we'll be pretty confident in the decision that we make. And like I said, she's young, she's twenty six, so there's not

really any rush, especially if we only want to have one. UM. So that's kind of where our heads are at with that. What do you think that that seems like a good, good, good reasoning, right, I think that was fantastic, great email, Lily, Thank you so much. Uh, and then everybody listening, please once again email us at I such a dating iHeart media dot Com. It's Dean's favorite part of the segment. We love you guys. Uh, continue following us on help us like a dating Instagram. A lot of good content

up there. Uh. And that will do it, I think for today's show, unless you've got anything else, Deanie. Uh. Deany's coffee beanies is Uh. I think I think I'm good over here. You gotta name one from Mark and Easton too. I'll help you think of some names. That's a really good idea. I know we we definitely need to do that. So Mark and Easton, if you guys have any ideas for drinks named after you, guys, please

let us know. Well, I don't drink caffeine, so it's gotta be not caffeinated, and I'm not good with dairy, so it really is getting down there. Now, what the idea of a fruit smoothie? Mark's boring drink? You want that one? May Mark water bottle exactly. We'll just slap your name over like the water jug in the corner

or something like that. Anyways, thank you guys for joining us, Mark and Easton, thank you guys for coming in and saying those surprisingly nice things with a little sprinkle of meanness in there, but it's it's overall mostly mostly nice, so I appreciate that. Thanks guys for joining us. Thank you to Lily for emailing us. Keep the emails coming.

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