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Dean and Caelynn are nearly 10,000 miles apart right now, and it took a podcast to bring them back together! You’re hearing their first real conversation in 2 weeks since Dean left for Antarctica!
 
We consult a doctor about Dean’s extreme birth control plan, and why he might not want to get snipped.
 
Plus, Dean and Jared learn a very valuable lesson about the female anatomy. But better late than never!

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Hell We Suck At Being Newlyweds? Kylen Miller, key Man, Jared haven An, iHeartRadio podcast. Hey, welcome to an all new episode of Help We Suck At Being Newlyweds. That's going to take some time to getting used to. It is myself and we have our two other co hosts. But the reason I'm kind of like getting into that is because, as you guys know, Dean has been I don't know on Pluto, and this is the first time

that Dean and Calen have seen each other. And how long Klein, I think it's been two weeks, two and a half weeks, two and a half weeks. How does it feel you guys are seeing each other for the first time in two and a half weeks live on the podcast, Baby on the podcast, it's been two weeks. I did the math on the flight. I was surprised. I thought that you were going to text me this morning and or Alice try to call me or something

before jumping on the podcast. So I'm surprised I was going to but I didn't sleep last night, so I needed every second of sleep. I could get why don't you sleep because the winds are crazy and we have this air vent right behind me that was flapping all night long. Oh those darn air vents, man, they love flapping around. Yeah, but I'm so excited to see you. You look so handsome. Should we just treat this as our phone call? Hello? How are you? Every time I

miss over the past two weeks? Um, can you tell me about Antarctica? Well? Yeah, but nothing interesting has happened here. You went to the Super Bowl, You play golf, you kind of touchdown pass. I saw you were in your football receiver gloves. It was awesome. You were the most athletic looking person I've ever seen in my life. Thank you so much. Um, I did play golf, and I understand the hype. I will never get mad at you for playing golf again because it was so much fun. Okay,

you heard it here first, folks. We're gonna hold her accountable to make sure you much again. Yeah. I'm just gonna clip that and play it for her every morning when we wake up. No, it was so fun. I really get it, You really get it. Yah. Can I hear about antarctica? I don't know anything that happened. Um, well, there wasn't really anything that happened that's worth I mean, it was a great experience and a great trip, but it wasn't like there was one moment where oh, what

the hell is going on? Why am I just seeing your feet? I just going computer to charge. I'm at a hostel in El Calafette. Do you hear a room? Yeah? I had to just buy it. I was one hundred and twenty bucks, but I didn't want to. I didn't want to record the podcast out in the common areas because I get really nervous in front of other people. So I spot this. My friends don't show up for another like four hours, so I was like, I guess that's fine because I don't just napping here anyways. Okay, wait,

what are you doing now? Are you hiking? Pattick going here? Are you doing something else? So yeah, I like how we just brushed over all that in Artica, so now so much. Native plan is to drive to Port Natales with my friend I just met on this an Arctica boat and he wants to go puma tracking, and so I told him I would go puma tracking them for five days, which would be freaky and sick. Can I get I get some confirmation from you guys here? But like,

you're not hunting them, you're just looking for them. Oh yeah, yeah, no, we just like look at them through our telephoto camera lenses. But we're not gonna just in case someone like got confused by that. Yeah, I would never kill puma. Well aren't Puma's pretty dangerous? Yeah, it's kind of like they're kind of like mountain lions. I guess you could say maybe like bigger and maybe less aggressive, but I didn't really know enough about them, but they are big mountain cats. Yeah. Yeah,

and you're gonna be tracking them. Yeahs so cool. He like, he was like so happy to have gotten this puma tracking reservation. He couldn't believe it. And I was like, well, you know, I don't really have anything to do. He's like, oh, come with me. He's this British guy goes, oh, Mike, come with me down to Puma Land and I was like, all right, sure, that was like a setry British accent. Wait, so you're doing puma tracking and are you gonna hike Pattigan?

You'erd um, I think I'm gonna do that still yeah, and then I'm good. Yeah, so getting well, Jackson just Jackson just invited me to go on the prices right with him on March eighth, so I know I have to be home before March eighth. Oh. He texted me yesterday and asked when you're coming home, and I was like, I think the eighth, Yeah, which is kind of good because if I didn't get that, I probably would have stayed in South America to like good but great. But now I got to come back and that would be

a full month. That's the kind of what I said when I left too, that I would be gone for a full month. Um. So yeah, I'm gonna go to Patagonia and I'm gonna camp down there, puma track down there, and then come back up to the town that I'm in now and do this Fitzroy traverse that I want to do. That's another four days and then I would come back to this town or go up to the next town and fly out to Buenos Aires from there

on like March sixth. That's like my old Verry loose plan. Good. Great, yeah, actually to talk to because Klin, you're so just easygoing, like Dean. When you come back, maybe a month maybe not. I know I have to be back by March eighth, so I'll be back at some point, dude, I run to CVS and Ashley asked me five thousand, two hundred and forty eight questions, when are you going to be back? Where are you gone? You're just going to see a visc going to someone else? Why are you going there? Well,

shouldn't you go here? Can you also pick me this up? And then when you get back we need to do this? But what time are you going to be back? And it's just like, oh God, please get me in my car. Well, okay, Kaitlin does all those things when I'm home. I feel like, yeah, when he's home. Yeah. And also, I think the biggest difference here it is that we don't have a young human being at home that we're both thinking care of. Yeah, yeah, that's a fair point. Once you get the little one

in the house, everything changes, guys. It's just it. Yeah, it's the most wonderful, awful thing you'll ever do in your entire life. Oh good, can't wait yet? It like it is so much fun because you're just a kid. Like last night, you know, I just do this thing where I run with Dawson and he loses his mind and we found he started laughing because well, I'll run from the living room to the kitchen with him in my arm, and I'll kind of tease him and we call it and we run, and I'm like, and we

run and we start running. I don't full spread, but it's just like a little bob and he's like losing his mind. And then Ashley will be like, oh no, you're gonna run into me and he's like ah ha ha, And I'm like, oh man, I just wish I could have that sense of just bliss. And kids are just so stupid, you know, oh so stupid. He's so dumb. God, I wish I was that dumb. I mean, I'm not smart, but I'm not that I'm not as dumb as a one year old either, So there's a balance. You're definitely

smarter than a one year old. We'll give you that. Um. Once he turned years, gonna start getting competitive. I saw your cute photos of him with the cake and the Titanic or something like that. Yeah, So it's first. Uh. One of our friends here in Rhode Island, her name is Ashley Richards, and she's a professional photographer, and so she did this cake smash thing for his birthday where she bought a cake and just a blue cake and he just smashes it and then you know, eats it

if he wants. And we did like a Titanic theme because obviously Ashley wanted to do a Titanic theme. So it was fun. It was cool. Yeah, it was nice. That's nice. I always forget that your kid and my brother's kid are like I think they're like one day apart, which is so interesting. I think, yeah, it wasn't your your nephew born January or no, February February ninth, maybe, Okay, so tonight he was January thirty first, so they're just

a little over a week a win. Maybe this February second, actually I don't know, but yeah, she it's yeah, she's great. And kids are cool and it's nice to you little bop in and hang out with them when every whenever you feel like you want to hang out with them and not have the obligation to take care of them until they're old enough to take care of themselves. I know, even this morning, bro, like I get Dawson, I bring him upstairs, I change his diaper. He's being now, he's

being more fussy, Like I can't leave him. I never left him on the diaper changing table by himself. But you know what I mean, Like I was able to like place him there and he'd stay still. Now he's flaring all over the place, going left, going right. I mean, this kid would fly straight off and fall four feet if I didn't watch him. So anyway, and dude, changing his diaper now because he's I'm literally pinning this kid

down as I'm changing the diaper. This is what you have to do with one year old now, because he's just losing his mind. He thinks it's the funniest thing. So I change his diaper, put him down, go to pick out his clothes, and all of a sudden, this is like thirty seconds later, I'm like, did you just poop? Literally thirty seconds after I change his diaper, he takes a massive poop and so I had to change him again and it's stunk. Dude, his smells so bad. Now

it's like human poop. You used to be baby poop, and baby poop's nothing. Man, You just change one wipe, You're good to go now. Oh dude, his entire diaper is just exploded with posts. Really great, Jared, thank you so much for sharing that information with you. I want to know my life. This is my life. I didn't want to know that much of your life. I will maybe be more specific next time I asked questions about that. I want to hear Kaylin talk a little bit. Is that? Okay, Kaylin?

Can you film me in on life in Kaylin's shoes? Well, I've just been in la I Well, I was supposed to go to Denver last week for my hair and makeup trial for the wedding. Yeah, but our producer, our producer, Hana texted us the night before and said we had two guests. So I was then going to miss my flight and I didn't want to be difficult the second podcast, so I canceled my flight and I builded my little sister. She was going to tour colleges, which she actually I

feel so bad. I had all that for this podcast. Come on, I did all of it. You need to look out for number one first and foremost. But Bella's very mad at me, and she I thought she was touring Bolder, but she toured Colorado Springs and she loved it. No, she toured Colorado State colored I don't know. I thought it was time she was in I'm like ninety eight percent share. It was Fort Collins, colorad Actually maybe she

was in Fort Collins. Okay, never mind, because first of all, she would never love aloraud of Springs, and b I'm like definitely. I've heard your grandfather say Colorado State, which is a great school. That's where Jackson went to college, was Colorado State. So there's so many Colorado states, Colorado universities. But yeah, so um instead of going to Denver, Yeah, there's one Colorado State. But yeah, okay, sorry, continue are there not like CSU Bowlder, CSU Colorado Springs? See you? No,

there not. But it's okay, we don't need you. We're not quizzing you on the Colorado schools right now. Anyways, Um, I stayed at home and I needed it because I went to the Super Bowl and then the next day I was supposed to leave for Denver, and I just got to rest and chill and it was great. M that's nice. And you have one of the super Bowl. That's that's good. I'm glad you had fun. And then now you're in Los Angeles. What are you doing in Los Angeles? Where are you there? Um? It's Wednesday? You

never there in Los Angeles? On a Wednesday. You're in LA on Thursdays. Yeah, but I'm here your friends, Yeah, us to work out. The workouts are so much better here. Oh yeah, I saw you doing some sweet. Um, I saw you doing some sweet. What was that stuff called plots? Is that what it is? Yeah? Oh my gosh, the reformer. Yeah it was so hard, but but good but tonight, good but good tonight, I'm saying. Susie Evans, Oh nice, what are you guys gonna do? Get dinner at elifante Um?

She just moved here, so I haven't seen her since we saw her like a year ago. Oh got a local, Susie l a girl now, yeah, local sues. Actually, I'm really embarrassed about this. I text RMS like, do you want to get dinner on Tuesday? And I thought I said Wednesday? So she showed up last night. My brain has been so messed up. No, you stood her up for your friend. But but she's like a five minutes away. Oh my gosh. I would never forgive you if I were here, But good for her for giving you a

second chance. Yeah. Um, well that's fun. Be good for both of you, guys. I think timing for us to leave our apartment in La too. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Um, well I'll tell you about an Arctica now, so sorry. I wanted to give you, guys a like. I wanted to get an inside look of what a phone call conversation would look like between tea, what it feels like. I feel like that's exactly a listeners perspective. I would talked to her and too, I liked it. You know,

everybody always asked, like what people's relationships are like? That was exactly what a phone call sounds like between a well, I would say boyfriend crawfron, but now fiancee. That's right, that's right. Hey. I was looking through the Instagram page of our new Instagram account and I was getting some feedback from the from the commenters on that Instagram page, and I agree, I do think our title is a

bit of a mouthful. One of the one person said just call it help I suck at marriage or something, because help I suck it being a newlywed, it feels like a lot to say. I was like, I know it's too late for us to change if it might be too late for us to change it, but it does feel like we're trying to do too much I was thinking about help we suck at chips, you know, kind of encompass all everything. Yeah, yeah, that's good, that's good. I did like our pictures though. Our pictures turned out

pretty nice. I know, they're so sweets, which is rare, rare for me to think because I always hate the way I look in every photo. So that's not true. It was funny, though, well, I believe it. Like, but Dan, you've said this before where you say you'll look at old pictures of yourself and you're like, oh my god, I used to be so good looking, but at the time you would say, oh, I'm hideous. Like, no matter if you're in the moment, no matter what the picture is,

you always think you look hideous. But then fast forward five years, if you were looking back on that picture, you'd be like, oh, I look pretty good. So five years from now, Dan, I'm sure you're gonna look back at those pictures and say, damn, I look pretty good. Yeah. I mean, I'm just sliding off the scale pretty quickly into the pit of never being happy to look good in a photo again. I don't know, and look at me right now, I've got this. This is everyone always

makes funy because they can't grow facial hair. This is I haven't shaved in three weeks, and this is what I look like. I was gonna see a Oh I do think, Wow, that's how you know you found the one right there where you just haven't shaved. You look so dished. You probably stink love with a clean cut, with muscles, and now you got this freaking ugly sack of bones. That's, oh my god. You're still the most handsome guy I've ever met. Also, you had a mustache

when we met. You were not this clean. Yeah, but but you you fell in love with me before that. You fell in love with me when I was on the Bachelorette, And that's that was That was peaked Dean in terms of physical appearance, I disagree, but I disagree as you think I'm hotter Jared. I was not known, unfortunately not. But I do think Peaked Dean was long hair clean. When when you walked down the stairs to get you a woman, I was like, that's that's peaked

in right there. That's funny because I remember walking down there wearing those clothes and I was like, oh, I feel so fat in these clothes. I felt like I still out of shape, and now I'm like, I would kill to have that body again. Years ago too, we just did this cruise. It's a cruise. We were on a boat for eleven days getting to Antarctica and Kaylin, you were on the Galapa Ghost boat and we were like, by the end of that trip, we were like, gosh,

get me off this freaking boat. Man. Eleven days on a boat is like psychological warfare, I feel like, because you have like you can only leave the boat for two hours twice a day, so two hours in the morning, two hours at night essentially, which is nice. But then after that you're like confined just on the boat and you're always seeing the same people and you're just doing the same thing over and over again. And there's no cell reception, so you're like kind of confined even smaller

into your little groups. And it was a lot of fun, but it was a lot to deal with. And there's like no gym on the boat. So I was eating breakfast, lunch, and dinner, dessert three times. I was having dessert after breakfast every day and there was nothing I could do about it. I was just eating everything in my way, and I would like, there wasn't planning on drinking, but I had like three beers every single night. I swear I gained fifteen pounds over the past two weeks. Ah,

you'll lose it in no time. What did you You left the boat two hours per day? Do you guys dock two times a day. Yeah. We would take these little zodiac boats out to the land and just like walk around and hang out with penguins and seals and stuff. And then we would take the boats out in the afternoon and depending on the location on the weather, we would either like take the zodiacs around the icebergs, hang out with the whales, or go back and find another

piece of land that we could go to. It was pretty cool experience. If you're thinking about going to Antarctica, anyone out there that's listening to this, I would recommend it if you get it for the right price and you understand that you are going to be trapped on a boat for two weeks. It's not something I will ever do again, I don't think, unless I was going down to climb like a mountain down there, which would be really sick, but that would be a that's a

whole other thing. Obviously. It was a cool experience. I've been all seven continents. Now I can cross that off my bucket list, and now that that's chapters close, I can be happily never revisit it, I think. So is it two weeks? It's a week there in a week back. So well it's three days to get there, so three days on the boat just to get there, and then six days there and then three days to get back. Got it? So so twelve days? And would you do

when you got to Antarctica? That's what I'm saying. You go off the boat and you like go on land and hang out the penguins and seals and whales and stuff. Oh that's so okay. I'm getting confused here. So you're three days travel to Antarctica. You are there is no stops, you are just cruising. Oh no, you're just going going. So once you're there in Antarctica, that's when. So you're still living on the boat. Yeah, that's I think that's what most people don't don't get right away is you

sleep on the boat every night. You're not really, there's nowhere to sleep on the land. There was one night that people camped and I'm so mad they didn't let me Campum, but there's not like let you camp because I guess you're supposed to sign up for it an advance or something stupid like that, which who knew. I didn't know that. I also had much camping gear. I was like, I don't even need your equipment. I have all of my own stuff and it's better than all

your crap. Anyways, They're like, no, sorry, there there's only certain amounts of people that's allowed on land. Well, the voice you made it sounded like an intimidating man telling you no, so I would have just listened to him as well. There was a woman that said that that's exactly she sounded too. Wait did any of the photographers sleep there? No, none of us. None of them did either. It was kind of silly, kind of stunk, but um. They also, there's a lot less snow in Antarctica than

you would think. I was expecting every bit of land to be covered in snow or ice or something like that, and it felt like we were just like in Seattle, like the coast of the the Pacific Northwest in the middle of the winter, you know, like there was a lot more dirt and sand than you would really expect to see. In Antarctica of all places. Is that global warming or is that just because it's summer there. I mean, yeah,

it's probably a combination of bowl. So I guess if you come back in the winter might be a little different. But there was like a lot of ice in the water, and the ship captain has to navigate the ice, and I would imagine in the winter the ocean is a lot more frozen over, so you'd have to break a lot more ice, which would be challenging, I think. But the three days, sorry, I just want to talk about

this real quick. So the three days to get there, you crossed through the Drake Passage is what they call it, and it's the most hectic ocean currents in the world. I think something like that. When I didn't hear from you for three days, I started to think about the guy from the Glop of Ghost talking about rogue waves, and I was, yeah, yeah, I mean, rogue waves are always I think, something you might encounter, but it's these

aren't rogue waves. It's just like every wave is ten feet tall, and so you're just sloshing around like a like a bowl of soup, and it gets really crazy for a while. So for forty eight straight hours. You're literally rocking like like not stop, just over and back and forth, and you're trying to walk to dinner and you fall over and you're trying to sleep at night. I did not get sick, thankfully, because I didn't drink that much, and I don't know, I guess I just

didn't get motion sickness for some reason. But at night, do you're like bouncing out of your bed because the waves are so big. There were so many times where I woke up and I was fully expecting water to start rushing in under the door because I thought we were crashing and sinking and going under. And it's crazy just to like be in a perpetual state of not being able to like anchor down and be normal. Wait one more question, Um, I thought I read that you

get like strapped into your bed like there's straps. Did you not have that with a seatboat like a like a straight jacket in your bed? Yeah? No, like like the chairs, there's everything strapped out. I saw that on TikTok. Yeah, because you're like a bull stop in there, you know, you gotta shrup that stuff down exactly, just like a bowl of soup. Try putting a seat buff on a bowl of soup. But you can't. Um, no, we didn't. We didn't have those in our bed or on the seats.

But it was funny. I mean like you're at dinner and you're sitting in your chair and the chair is like sliding back and forth on the floor in the dining room. Um, it was. It was pretty crazy. Yeah, And I was telling kale In this and you paid to do this, correct, Yeah, you weren't. First. This is not some sort of torture you had to go through. You voluntarily gave money to have ten thousand dollars. Oh my god. Yeah, that's a lot. Well, that's what I'm saying.

That's why I've been saying I would never go back. I would never ever have urged you go back and ten thousand dollars. But there's like more luxury. You didn't have like a luxurious boat, right, Like there's these crazy expeditions that people go on that they probably spent even more on, right, And how it would it be much nicer? We had the perfect boat. We had a hundred people on our boat. The bigger boats, like the cruise liners that have like a thousand people, that's just like not

the way to do in article. You gotta you gotta rough it a little bit, you know, if you're going in art, keep it a little bit rough. And also you're only allowed to let so many people, so many passengers land per day, and so our boat was small enough to where every passenger could land every day. Well, those big boats you get to go through cycles and rotations to let everyone land. Yeah, but those big ones, yeah, they've got like, you know, water parks and hot tubs

and stuff. Ours was like a very practical, no space wasted, like everything is for the mission kind of thing, which is cool, and it wasn't. Yeah, it wasn't like a comfort thing, but it was still pretty nice as far as boats go. I think, So are there inhabitants, Like, are people living there permanently in an arcticle? I'm trying to look this up and it's not given me that

much explanation. Yeah, I think the only people that live in Arctica are researchers from their respective country like Argentina or New Zealand or Chile or stuff like that. So I think the only people that lived there are researchers, Like there are no indigenous people of Anarctica, you know. But what was interesting, actually, what I learned on the boat was that one hundred sixty to one hundred million years ago, which really is not that long ago, an

Arctico wash. It was like last like a green one, like a green wonderland with like beautiful trees and grass and vegetation, and there's a lot of dinosaurs that lived up there, and dinosaurs obviously at reptiles, so reptiles need warm weather. It was like it was like so much warmer and so much nicer sixty million years ago. That's not that long ago, you guys think about sixty million

years very long time. And then what happened. I don't know exactly how it shifted or what happened, but I do think that an Arctica eventually broke off Pangaea, which is the super continent that used to be that is no longer, and something maybe with the rotation of the Earth that the weather system changed somehow. I'm not a scientist, so I don't really know exactly what it is, but

it is weird. It is weird to think obviously the humans weren't involved in that changing process, didn't change anyways, and now here we are warming the earth, going back to maybe how it used to be. Yeah, yeah, maybe an arctica is finally is like, finally I want some more weather down here. It's been so long, it's been sixty million years. I haven't seen the sun in sixty million years? Are you kidding me? Wait? Did the sun

come out last? Oh? Yeah, every day. But I'm saying, like, you know the ground everyone, because there's ice on the ground. And then so yeah, so that's an arctica. Um, thanks for thanks for hosting last week's episode. I was actually really bummed I couldn't be here for last week's episode because the guests seemed really great, and who misses the second episode of a new podcast as a co host, That's just really embarrassing with me to do. So I'm glad that Kalin at least was able to power through

for the Bell family over here. Well, I did talk about something, Um, I thought I could have sworn. I talked, we talked about this on a podcast together, Um about your snip snap. Yes, you've never talked about that my snip snap? Yeah. I thought I've talked about it before to our friends and you're like, don't talk about that. No, I don't care but we have a doctor talking about your snip snap today. Yeah, we gotta get more about this stuff. Wait, I knew we had a doctor. I

didn't know that it was a snip snap doctor. Yeah, oh well that's cool. What did you talk What did you talk about? So I don't overshare anything and get in trouble. No, you can share anything. I don't care. But I then I was like, shoot, should I not have shared that? I just said, instead of me taking birth control, you want to. Um, I don't think it's fair of I don't think it's fair of me to expect you to take birth control. It's so my step.

You have a hormonal reaction to taking birth control, and I'm just like, take it that way. I can shove it down. I don't have to use protection. Take it's so much stuff. Yeah, it's different because most women are just have been on birth control. But it's different with you, Kalin, obviously because you haven't. So yeah, there's a decision to be made. I'm excited for this guest, not that he's on now but soon because he's going to answer all the questions that we have about it. Yeah, do you

have questions pre written out? Yep? Do you nice, don't I don't have any I'm more of like an off the cuff kind of guy. But Jared, do you want to get into some hot headlines, some hot topic headlines before we bring our guests in? Yeah? Of course. I mean there's nothing hotter than discussing hot topics after talking about Dean's vasectomy. Um, okay, Well, do you want to talk about Dawson's poops some more or something? Dude? I would love to that. My life is surrounded by Dawson's poop.

We do have a couple of hot topics, one involving Kristen Cavaliery, who's been, you know, rumored to be dating within Bachelor Nation. I remember on New Year's Eve she was seeing out with Tyler Cameron. Tyler c there's a guy that should be the Bachelor right there? Don't we all agree? Don't you think that Tyler c should have been the Bachelor? What the hell happened? How is that not like the easiest decision to be made? Did he want too much money? I want to know more about this,

don't you? Guys? Like? How did that guy not become the Bachelor? He's like the most famous guy in Bachelor Nation? He just never became the bachelor. I bet you what happened is what you said. He probably asked for too much money, and I bet you the producers reprobably like, yeah, we want you to be the bachelor, but we don't care enough to pay you some same amount of money, you know, like we can find a successful bachelor for

way cheaper. Well that's what I assume happened, at least maybe, But anyway, it's not about Tyler's see, it's about christ and Cavalier. She's revealed that she's been approached by a lot of married men after the Jay Cutler divorce, and she breaks down why she's not ready for a relationship. She's to live in the single life. She opened up recently in an article about the reality of dating, and she revealed why she isn't in a rush to be in a relationship. So apparently she's not in a relationship

with Tyler Cameron. She recalled getting approached by a lot of married men since her divorce from Jay Cutler. Clearly, I'm not ready for a relationship because I'm attracting all of these unavailable men, she talked about after she broke up with the former NFL star Kristin Cavaliery. She joked about addressing her history with athletes, quote, I've got a lot of twenty nine year olds. I've dated a lot of kids in their twenties, and I'm like, this is silly.

I need someone who's established. She talked about after dating younger men, and she expressed interest in starting a family, adding I'm not going to have more kids. It would be so hard for me. Oh, the younger guys talk about starting a family with her, and then she says, I'm not going to have any more kids. It would be so hard for me to go back and have another one because my baby is seven and I can't

imagine going back and do it all over again. So unless I'm at the love of my freaking life and he wanted one and didn't have, maybe, but most likely I'm not having kids. So she talks about that. That is interesting because I talked to Tanner and Jade about having another kid, and there you know, they have three kids, and they their youngest is almost two. Reid is almost two now, and Jade was talking about last week Husson

once a fourth kid. But Tanner was like, we're almost out of it, you know it feels like we're almost out of that stage, because there is that baby stage right where it's just like your life is consumed by this infant, and once they start becoming more independent, you

can start living your life again. So I can relate to Kristin Kristin Cavalier because once your kids like seven, it must be tough to go back and be like, Okay, we're gonna do this all over again, which is why Ashley and I have talked about we're definitely gonna have another kid, and I think we're gonna start trying pretty soon because Dawson's already a year so even if Ashley got pregnant pretty soon, you know, Dawson would be almost

two years older than his sibling, So I don't know. Yeah, But what I think what you might be missing out on though, is like Kristin and Kristen's case, and then probably in Jade's case too, they have another kid, the oldest kid kind of becomes like a like a pair in a sense, you know, like a live in nanny that you can just hire to take care of the little baby. That is nice, which I think it would kind of be a nice nice thing for the parents, you know, Uh, yeah, yeah, it's not like I feel bad.

I'm always bitching complain about being a parent. Dawson's the best. I love him so much. But it definitely like it's it's jarring to say the least. But anyway, so Christin Cavalier, Kristin, I always say, Christina, what the hell? Kristin Cavaliery, I'm curious, why are these married men approaching her wanting to date her? Dude? I don't, I don't. I don't get it, Like, how are these guys just like loking stupid? I'm sorry, I know I shouldn't swear, but sometimes the potty mouth just

comes out of me. Like what do you think's gonna happen? I don't know, but I wonder if these are just like random guys sliding into her dms that like we're fans of hers years ago on the hills or Laguna Beach, or if they're like actually in the public eye. You know, it feels like I would imagine that they're in the public eye because she says that she's attracting all these unavailable men. How does she know that they're unavailable? You know? I mean, these guys say it's like just some Rando

dming her. I'm I doubt she's like going through this guy's profile. Maybe she is. Maybe she's clicking on him and seeing like, oh that guy's married, he's flirting me. What an ansul. Well, my mind immediately went to someone that we know or someone that's in the public eye somehow reaching out and saying, hey, I've always had a thing for you, like I'm ready to dump my wife and let's get this thing going. If this thing started, Okayn, what are your thoughts on Kristin Kevily or just as

a as a person. Oh, I love her. I never watched Laguna Beach or The Hills, so I didn't. I don't know like the villain back story. But I met her on an event. She was friendly, she's professional, she's she's like an awesome businesswoman, a mom. I think she's great. That's cool. Yeah, I don't know much about her. I guess it was a little before your time, those those shows that was like maybe one of the og reality

TV shows. I know my mom was stretch. She wouldn't let me watch any of those shows, so I never did. That's a shame. I never watched any of those reality shows. The only reality show I ever watched was Jersey Shore, but I felt like, I don't know, I think I might.

The problem is I don't watch TV, but if I did watch TV, I would want to revisit those shows because I feel like it would bring out so much nostalgia and just it would make me feel better about the world, Like, no matter what I'm we were just talking, it's all gonna work out. We were just talking the other day about remember the show is like Date My Mom or Next on MTV. I remember Next on? Oh I do remember Date my Mom? Or Room Raiders? Room Raiders?

I remember Room Raiders. What was the one where they had they like the parents had to pick? Was that Room Raiders? It was my Mom? Is that date my Mom? Yeah? You go on a date with the person's mom, and then you you decide whether you want to date the kid. Oh, parental control. Maybe that's what it is. Yeah, oh, yes, that's what I was thinking. And then you decide you if you want to date the kid based on your date with the mom or dad. I guess parental control. Yeah,

that sounds about right. I remember next What next was good? Or like the bus? People will go on the bus and then they'd pick out next. Dude, it's funny they watch the close back because when you were a kid watching. When I was a kid watching that, I was like, man, this show is hilarious. How are these guys also witty and make these weird funny phrases? Sounds so eloquent? And then you watching I was an adult, and you're like, everything that they've said has been scripted, like in the

most insane way. That's so obvious. How did I not know that when I was watching that when I was thirteen years old? You know? Oh, dude, I think the same thing when I watched those shows like when I was a kid, and if I saw glimpses of those shows, I'm like, these guys are so cool, Like god, I just wouldn't be like then when I grow up. And then you watch the show back now and you're like, whoo, man, that guy sucks HiT's cringe. Yeah, yeah, I wonder, yeah

that's yeah. I don't know. I wonder if people are going to say that about us when they watch d just go on your Twitter feed. Yeah, yeah, that's true. I don't really go on Twitter anymore, but um, yeah, what else do you you want to talk about? Anything else important, pressing Jared that you just have to get off your chest. Oh there's this other article. But I don't know, Klin, I feel like, are you would you consider yourself a

pop culture aficionado? Somewhat? I listened to a pop culture podcast, so I learned everything that I know from them. What pop culture podcast is? It called to help I stuck at being in Ilwood? No, yeah, let's not someone else's podcast. Who cares? We can get no? Exactly cross pollination here. I listened to it every day when I work out. It's called The Toast. They're hilarious. Yeah, I know The Toast. Yeah, yeah, The Toast is great. Actually listens to the Toast. Yeah,

they're also they're so funny. It must be like more for women, I would say, because I've tried listening and it just doesn't sparked my interests very much. But also, you are the complete opposite of the people they're trying to get to listen to that podcast. Exactly, it's fair, But no, you did listen. You tuned in when they were talking about Entourage. Remember her takes on Entourage. She was like guy, yeah, yeah, She's like, then he turns into such a douche. The main character is Drama. He's

the best. He's so fun to root for. I was like, yes, I could listen to hours of this. I do listen hours of Drama. Was your favorite character on the show. I liked all the characters. I listened to their podcast Plug their podcast Real Quick Victory of the Podcast by Kevin Dylan and Kevin Connolly and Doug ellen Um. I listened to that podcast a lot. And Kaylin hates when I listened to that one, just like I hate when

she listens to the Toast. So we have to listen to them separately, which is kind of a bummer on the long car ride. Yeah, yeah, Jared plug a podcast quick, we got two minutes? Well, I just listened to local sports talk so felgern Mas on ninety eight point five The Sports Up. Yeah, listen to them all the time. Thank you? Listen to radio stations on the radio? Did I listen to FM bro? I'm an og? I'm an og guy. Can you listen to the Kelsey podcast The

Kelsey Brothers? No? Oh, Kaitlin? I was like, oh, no, am I gonna sound like an a toll right now? As Kelsey comes from a Bachelor Nation member that like, I'm gonna be like, who oh Travis Kelson. No, I can't stand Travis Kelsey. No, Dan, listen. I'm sure he's a nice guy. But I'm talking as a sports fan,

you know what I mean. There's a difference between hate, and there's a difference between hate and sports hate, and I sports hate Travis Kelsey, like after where he was like, oh, tell the mayor of Cincinnati, no your role and shut your mouth, browny, And it's like he's going on the podium being like nobody believed in us, and it's like, dude, everybody believed in you. Guys. Everybody thought you were gonna probably be in the super Bowl. I just realized I

haven't heard anything about the Super Bowl. I think the Chiefs one, you think. I'm pretty sure the Chiefs one. It was actually such a good game, it was so entertaining, and I was sharing on the Chiefs because Deardre is obviously my grandma is a huge Chiefs fan. She was losing her mind because Chris Stapleton opened her favorite singer and then the Chiefs one, and then we went to a tailgate and Cheryl Crowe performed, and she was incredible.

You're at a tailgate after the game. That's not really I said before before the game. And wait, dear Drew was there with you. No, she was just texting me. Oh, but yeah, that's so interesting. I just realized that I have not even because I left basically the day of the super Bowl was on, and you don't get internet on the boat unless you pay insane amounts of money for it, and so I just haven't really heard anything

about super Bowl. But I did get an update that the Chiefs one last second on a field goal, but I never confirmed it, and it sounds like that's the case. So it is the case on a very controversial holding call. It was interesting to say the least. But I'm grip did man scripted script? Right? Well, yeah we are. We are going to take a quick break because I were snip snap. Doctor is in the waiting room and she

is going to be joining us right over these messages. Hey, welcome back to the Welcome back to help I suck at being a newly led here, I'll step in for you, dude. For a second there, I was like, all right, new podcast. Then I'm like, wait a minute, we're just back from a break. That's it. I'll let you keep going then, because you seem like you found your stride here. I never find my stride. We have a very special guest.

As we've been saying the snip knock doctor, I'm just kidding, doctor, Jeanette. I said that properly right, that's perfect. Oh good. I'm so bad with names and I literally just asked you off air how you pronounce it, and I still second guess myself. So doctor, thank you so much for coming on the podcast. We know that you are our top family and emerge see medicine. Doctor. You have an incredible background.

You know a lot about medicine. And we've been talking in the past couple of weeks because our two newly weds here, Dean and Kaylin, have been discussing Dean possibly getting a vasectomy, and we have some questions for you. They have some questions for you specifically. So how about this, So doctor, if you can just briefly tell us what the overall procedure of getting a vasectomy is, like, okay, So, I mean it's an outpatient procedure, meaning you go in and out and get you get it done in the

same day. You get some local numbing, and they call it a vast sectomy because it's the vast deference tube that you're snipping, that you're cutting, and what that tube does, that carries the sperm that becomes part of the I don't know how details you want me to get, but it get detailed. You're fine, okay. So that the the vast deference tube is what carries the sperm that enters the ejaculate that you know fertilizes the ovaries, the eggs,

and that's how you become pregnant with a woman. So you cut that off and that therefore you cannot get a woman pregnant. But that is not one hundred percent, it's about ninety five percent. The only you know, thing that's more effective is abstinence, but it's not something that I would recommend as your first choice for birth control. Believe it or not. There's a birth control for men that's under investigation right now. It's an actual, an oral,

non hormonal pill. But I think that you have to keep in mind that if you do that, there is a chance that it's not reversible, and are you willing to take that chance? And if you're willing to take that chance, I would at least recommend freeze your sperm just in case anything happens, you know, freeze a few vials if that's something you really really want to do. The other alternative I would consider is it's very easy

for a female to get what's called an IUD. They last about five years, and that's a good form of contraception as well. I'm not saying that we should put all the onus on the female, but it's very easy. We have so many options, so many more options than men. I certainly would not go undergo any surgical interventions for birth control if I still want to have kids one day, meaning I wouldn't go and have my tubes tied and then think, Okay, I'll go back and get it reversed later.

So I think that's very kind and consider it for Dan to want to do that. So maybe his wife does not have to go on birth control or have an IUD, but it's I think it's easier for us women to take on that burden than for a man. And the other alternative is, you know, of course using condoms, but you know you don't. That's not really expected in someone who's in a monogamous relationship. But there's other forms of birth control, but not as effective. I do have

a question. You said numbing cream. So are the patient's not put under no local local numbing not numbing cream. I mean they could use some uh local topical anesthetic at the site of injection, but usually we'd use this locally, like when you go to the dentist and you have some Yeah, but you know you're you shouldn't be put under. Some people want to be sedated. But uma, was this a joke? Was this a joke or you're really serious about doing this? Well I'm serious about it. But let

me ask you a question. You said, when you when you cut off the penis, do I get a joy? I get like a fake penis that I put on after that? Or is it you're snipping You're snipping a duct a tube internally? Whole penis right right? You still get to keep that little part that's left. Yes, it's tied.

It's tied at they they snippet, they tie it. But you know, there's always concern for collateral, you know, just like I've had some patience who've had heart testing and the heart the cardiologist says, I can't believe you haven't had a heart attack already. It's because even though the main coronary to the heart is clogged, that's the blood vessel that provides blood float to the heart. It's clogged, but the body was able to create collateral blood vessels

to the heart. The same thing could potentially happen. That's why it's not one hundred percent effective number one, and number two, it's not one hundred percent reversible. So if I were in your shoes, I wouldn't. I would not recommend it. If you were, I would say, no, let's not do that. I did have a traumatic incident when I was a child, and I got a lot of stitches on my scrotum, So I wonder if that would affect anything as well. That's a good question if you

if it was just a laceration, it shouldn't. It was, Oh my gosh, what did you do? I told you the story before it I don't remember tell it again. I mean, have you you know you know not to not to be negative and Nancy, but have you even had your sperm evaluate? Because it because I I was, I was worried that I was sterile, worried. I guess it's more curious more than anything so I got tested and they said my swimmers are fine, which I don't know.

I don't know if it was a reputable sperm bank that I was that was testing my sperm, but im I needed to read tested. Yeah, that's something you could do, especially if you're thinking about having children. Another thing you could do. How old are you? How old are you guys? You're pretty young? I mean if also, it's something to just consider. If you don't want to have kids right now, but maybe in the future you do, make embryos, go ahead and let your get get some of your follicles

out while you're young and healthy. Go ahead and make embryos and freeze your embryos, and and you're all set. So you're you're pretty anti getting meat, you're pretty anti using I asseected me as a main form of birth control at least like if if there are kids later on, potentially in the future. You're saying, I think that's excessive. Right now, I would say, if you definitely want to have kids, when do you want to have kids? Do you know that? Have you had that discussion? Once I

figure my life out, which is open to interpretation. How many years? About five? Maybe more so? And do keep in mind women are having babies in their forties, but the risk of Down syndrome and chromosomal abnormalities. Um, and you know, birth defects begin usually around age thirty four thirty five, so keep that in mind. But that doesn't mean you shouldn't have still continue to have babies, even baby beautiful babies with Down syndrome all the time. But

just you want to keep that in mind. And naturally as we age, there are more chromosomal abnormalities with our our follicles, with our eggs. So um, that's I just think it's it's like the extreme for you to go straight to a V sector. Have you ever considered an IUD? Have you were taking birth control? And how did you do on that? Yeah? I just got off birth control. It was making me a little crazy and I've heard um horror stories from IUDs, so I still not as well.

So what so now there are different types of IUDs. There are non hormonal iud so the ones with the hormones, yeah, can be problematic, but also there's so many different types. Just just because one didn't work for you doesn't mean there's another one that would work. But if you're you know, if you have an anaphylactic reaction to birth control, and it's absolutely you know, out of the question, then you know.

Then I can understand why you guys are considering a vasectomy, But I would not just go straight to a vasectomy. If you're gonna do that, then I would freeze your sperm and freeze a few vials, consider freezing some some embryos as well, and just have that backup insurance just in case. But I would say, um, explore other options before you go to um A, you know, sturgical intervention. I don't know of any one that would recommend doing

that before having children. It's usually something that's done after you're having children. Well, maybe why don't you just start having children right now? Oh yeah, come on, guys, join the claw. That's fun. I tell you need more money first, Why do you why do you think it is that there are so much more resource We've put so much more resources into like figuring out how to provide females with like this contraception instead of males. Like why why do you think they focus more on the females and

the males. Is there like just easier or yeah, that's a that's a really good question. I just think historically, since we are the baby maker, the baby carriers, um, the hormones, there's more opportunity, whether it's from you know, using uh, you know, something that stops your ovaries from uh, from from you ovulating. There's just so many opportunities versus with a male. It's just okay, we got to make sure the sperm uh you know, doesn't get to the

egg to to fertilize and create that that embryo. But that's a that's a really good, a really good question. But again, there are there is a male contraception um that's being studied right now, and I could try to find the name of it for you. I don't remember the name, but it is underway and um it doesn't lower your testosterone um, and it's it's it's being looked at. So maybe that's something for you, uh to consider. It's a new experimental approach to male could be a lab

rat for this thing. Come on now, I'll jump into the clinical trials. Why I'm not. It is quite funny when you think about the difference between providing contraception for a male and female, Like he said, it's been like for a female, You're like, well, you can, you can take a pill, you can have like all the birth control options, or we can surgically put in something inside of you to ensure that you don't get pregnant. And with a guy so far, it's been like, I don't know,

just throw something rubber, rubber over it and you'll be fine. Okay, yeah, yeah. So this this this study is published in the journal Nature Communications, and it's looking at a medicine that immobilizes the sperm so they can't swim and can't fertilize the egg. So that's something that is um and it's successful in mice, so that's something that is on the horizon. Well that's good. I do have a question, um, what are your thoughts on natural cycles or birth control where you just track

ovulation by your temperature, well not temperature alone. That might be a little bit tricky because what if you have a cold, what if you have a virus, what if you have stripped throat um But if you if you don't, then you have to be really strict with that. But yeah, some people do that and that works, especially if you're on a very regular cycle. If you're if you're on a very regular, regular cycle, that's something that you can do, but you have to really know your body. You have

to really know your body. And then some people, um uh they tried to use the what we call the pullout method. That's you know, yeah, is that scientifically proven method. How many trials have we done with the pullout method? Not not enough? But um, a man that knows his body knows, you know, uh has control. That is some people use that method. Many are successful, many are not. Because there are sperm and create ejaculate yea um and so that's why you have to be aware of that.

That's not U. I would, I don't recommend that as birth control, but uh, it's I would. I would say try that first before going to to a vestsect To me, but I understand if you can't tolerate birth control, um and and and you've tried everything, like really truly have tried everything, that I understand why now why you're considering the best sectomy. But really, truly, I think, in my opinion,

should be absolute last resort. And I wouldn't even recommend it until you've had at least maybe two or three kidskin some of the horror stories you've heard about I U DS just people passing out and pain. I guess those are the two biggest ones. Ye've heard that. The number one the pain, you mean pain when you have it inserted. Yes, that can be controlled. That's what you do. What you do is you tell you you're going to collegist.

I want to be sedated because so many doctors just do procedures on us and think that we have no sensation down there. Of course we do, so the pain issue can easily be fixed. Number one, you ask for sedation and for pain control when you have it put in. But um, as far as the other issue, what was that other issue that you were worried about besides pain? The people passing out? But I think that's from the pain or fear of it. I guess yeah, that is

an easy fix. And let me tell you, Caitlin, there are thousands millions of women throughout the world that do very well with IUDs. Have you ever tried it? No, I'm too scared. So and so you're scared. To overcome that fear is you have to ask questions and you also have to understand if you don't like it, guess what, you go and get it taken out. You don't keep it, you have to keep it in give it a try. But if you're talk to your gynecologies, that's the thing.

If you had this conversation with your gynecologist, there's so many options other than birth control, other than oral birth pliment. Every time I talked to her about issues with lolo estern, she kind of like talks me out, like I love my guy. No, this isn't me trying to say anything bad about her, but she talks me back into it. Do you know why it's called lolo estern because it's so natural. I've actually taken that before and I loved it. But why did you want to come off of it? Um?

It was just messing with my hormones? Is did you how long have you been on it? How long were you were on it? Did you give it a chance? Like three four months? Yeah? I was on and off since college. Oh okay, so you were on it for a while and you couldn't tolerate it. Yeah, And in your situation, has your doctor talked to you about the implant? No,

it's probably a conversation I need to have with her eventually. Yeah, asked about this, asked about the implant, and don't forget it's you can try things, and if you don't like it, you stop it. That's the beauty of medicine. But I would consider trying the copper IUD. And I'm not selling anything, but if I were gonna try something, my go to would be the Lolo estern because I have experience with that.

Also the copper non hormonal, non hormonal copper IUD. You should you should look into that and give it a try. And remember if you don't like it, it's okay, you take it out. It's it's not like you're having, you know, breast implant surgery. It can easily be taken out in five minutes. Okay, it sounds like a painful five minutes. Looks like we got some research to do. I do like the try to troop pull out method, although that it just makes the best part of the experience a

little less enjoyable, which is yeah, I agree. It is so crazy how women just have to You guys just got the I shouldn't say the worst of it. I don't know, you kind of did. It's it's just like poor things, like everything is so dependent on women just taking care of business. You guys are well, that's because women are powerful, strong, human beings, and we can tolerate it. You can tolerate it. There's so many things that Ashley has to go through, and I'm like, I just would

not be able to handle this in any anyway. So well, the way the way God made us, men can do certain things that women can't do, and vice versa. So that's why human beings are beautiful species. That's why I love my This is fair. And I said one question before you get going, doctor, because as a man, I am dumb, and you said that you freeze embryos. Is freezing embryos different than freezing eggs? Yeah, that's a great question.

And then apparently my wife is slapping her forehead thinking that I'm dumb, even though the doctor just said that's a great question. It is a great question because I shouldn't assume that everybody knows everything. So you need the the egg from the woman and the sperm from the man. Put it together. You create an embryo brio. That's what I was assuming. Yes, now, when you just take the egg from the woman and you freeze it alone, that's

one thing, but I would say do both. If you have the means, your insurance might cover around or two of that fertility. But if you're truly thinking about a vssectomy, which I don't think is should be the immediate plan of contraception right now. But if that's something that you really really want to do, I would definitely freeze your sperm, freeze a few vials of sperm and um freeze some from some embryos. If if you really are gonna do the vist sect to meet, which I'm leaning towards, don't do.

But if Caitlin, you cannot tolerate any form of birth control, then yeah, you that's very kind and considerate of Udine to even consider that for your wife. She must be an amazing person, Caitlin, just trying to make sure she's happy. You know. Um, she did have to jump off jump off. I think she had a meeting or something, but um, but yeah, no, this has all been illuminating. Doctor. We appreciate you. Yeah, absolutely, thank you guys for having me,

and let me know if you have any questions. Seriously, if you have any questions or concerned, I'm always happy to help. I have gynecology friends that I could always reach out to as well. If you have any other specific detailed questions, I can get you a second opinion. Sweet that great, Thank you too, Yeah hope hopefully. Um. You know, if anyone else has the same questions, they can just refer to this and get all that answered. But you're great. Thank you so much. We really appreciate

taking and spreading your knowledge. Thank you, my pleasure to have a great day, God less, be safe, Thank you, bye bye bye. Well, so Calin did have to jump off there, which was I guess kind of good time because she was having connectivity issues. So we can't but decompress after that. So now it's gone help if we suck at dating bro So so look, it's sorry. We gotta come up with a new chant newlyweds, newlyweds, new lywitz that work, No, Ashley shaking your head, figure it out,

We'll figure it out. We can't. We can't try to figure it out. It has to figure us out, you know, like it just has to happen naturally organically. Yeah. Um, But before we do that, I do want to extend maybe a request to you, the dutiful listeners fans of the show. You guys are great and I love you so much. We are doing a Q and A episode next week and we want you guys to throw some ques at us and we can provide some a's. So go to the Instagram. I hope you already follow us.

You should already follow us. Yeah, shoot us over some questions. We want to give you guys some answers to those questions. We probably will. I think what we should do is on the Instagram page. We should just like put a Q and a box and then just get some of those questions and read them on air. Oh that's what

they literally just did. Nice. It was funny, not funny, but it was nice seeing Kaylin in that interview with the doctor because she was asking questions that I could sit in front of a computer for a hundred years formulating questions to ask, and I would never ask some of the questions that she's asking. So it's great to have her. Yeah, she does. What is that called? I mean, we haven't done it in quite some time, but she work. It starts with a pee. I swear to God, it's

prepares forgot Pa. That's right, I did. It's been a while for you and I Why don't more people do that? It makes the show so much better. Yeah, but then it's just like I'd rather come on here and talk about Dawson's poop. You know what I mean? That's that's better for me. Oh my gosh, Can I can I embarrass myself? No? Yeah, I gotta say this. I have to say, yeah, you can't say can I embarrass myself and then be like, never mind, I'm not gonna tell

the story. I just learned something about the female body that I blew my mind. Female anatomy blew my mind. I wanted to ask the doctor while she was still here, but it seemed like she was kind of ready to get off um and actually saying, seems like she might be in the room, so maybe you can confirm this with her. And it was. It was really embarrassing when I asked on the boat, but does does a girl? Does she pee out of her clitterus? Uh? No, right,

I don't know. I didn't think so, but I found out that unless they were all talking with me and I don't know better, I was told that girls peece at out of the glitter. Is the opening to the aretha? Is the tiny hole that you pee out of. It's located just below the clitters and at the vagina. How many holes are there down there? It sounds like there's

quite a few. Good. Guess that's interesting. They kept dogging me for not knowing where girls pee from, and a I've never watched a girl pee before, so how would I be. The Colorado public school system, I guess, has failed me as your as rather Island has obviously failed yours as well. I just like I didn't ever know until just like two days ago. So I guess it's technically not the clitterest but just below the clitters. Yeah,

I guess I've always assumed it was the vagina. I always thought that there was a hole between the vagina and the butthole, like a gouch hole kind of thing came out of. I mean, how many openings do you think a woman has. I just thought it was a gooch hole. Oh. I just thought there was like a

little hole down there. I even like, I'm not saying I've, like, you know, I'm that knowledgeable about the female anat of it, but even me, like just from watching or like being with a woman, you've you're telling me you've noticed that there potentially could be a third hole down there. No, I just thought that it was like so small and discreet and cute and fragile, that you couldn't see it to naked eye, and maybe like it expanded when it

was in action. I don't know. I haven't put much thought into it because I never I never cared to put much thought into it. Ashley just came back in the room. So the past two minutes we've been because Kaitlin had to sign off, past three minutes, maybe we've been talking about Dean asked me to women Peta the clitters. Oh my god, but you are no, no, no, no, this guy knows that. She's now accusing me of saying

that I know there's three holes. But he no, no, no, no no no. Dean said that he thought there was a potentially a hole between the vagina and the butthole. And I'm like, bro, come on, now there are three There are three holes, one that you p out of your vagina, but vagina. I know, there's your uretha and then there's your vagina. I don't know why anyway, Yes, I know there are three holes, but I gotta be honest, I don't think I ever really knew there were three holes.

Now we now, we know we're smarter because of this question. So I appreciate Ashley's in sight. I'm gonna say, if I was listening to this, I would be more embarrassed by you thinking your rethra was a slang term instead of me thinking there was a third p hole in the guchal area. Apparently boys have a urethra as well. Of course, I mean I need that. So that's just a p hole. That's a p hole. Our py hole is attached to it is not atta. I guess it's

all attached. First of all, don't blame us listening to the podcast. Blame as teen stated in the Colorado and Rhode Island public school system. Okay, okay, yeah, I'm embarrassed, but you know what I'm I'm proud to say that I I feel smarter. So yeah, whether the storm come out the other side a little smarter. And can we also say this is why Kaylin is a new pocket. See what happens when Kaylin's not on the podcast for four minutes, how south it goes. This is why she's

not gonna be happy. I think. On that note, I think every episode we record, all three of us, there should be five minutes of non Kaalen time at the end. All right, sounds good? Yeah, all right, Well that's gonna do it for this week's episode. Thank you so much for I can't I can't believe you're still listening to this episode. Honestly, why did you not turn it off five minutes ago when Kleen left? Thank you so much for listening to this episode of Help we Suck at

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