Hell I Suck At Dating with the Ungler and dared Haven Radio podcast What's going On? Everyone? Welcome to Thursday special color edition of Help I Suck At Dating. We're just gonna dive right into it. We've got Brett in the waiting room, so let's see if we can bring him in. Hello, Hey Brett, how's going Hi guys, thanks for joining us. What's going on in your world today? Well, um, I think the girl that my friend is into is
actually into me Jackpot. Yeah, well not really. I mean I don't know what to do because I actually also like her. Like every time we're interacting, she's super flirty with me, and then I'm like, okay, so what do I do here? And I mean like she'll do it in front of him. Yeah, that's all. Um. I think he's a little like, you know, rose colored glasses about it and not really taking I don't know, I don't.
It's just like I think she's cute, and if it weren't for the fact that, like my friend was into her, i'd probably flirt back. But it's kind of like bro code comes first. Yeah, so I haven't I haven't shot my shot, and I'm just kind of like cool. What what what do I do? I mean, like she's really into me, like every time. It's it's not like I'm you know, full of myself, Like it's really obvious. Yeah, I think, well, I'll you guys give some advice first. But I know what I'm gonna say. I mean, do
you value this friendship? I do? But it's also not every day that someone as hot and awesome as she is is kind of like coming for me. So I'm like, what am I doing with my life? That reminded me of one of Dean's best lines of Bachelor Paradise where he was talking about Christina and he was like, Christina and I get along so well, and we have such a good time, so you know, we have so much fun. And then he's like, Daniel is so hot that. No, I didn't say that. They edited that make me sound
like it was the greatest moment? Was it wrong? That's why it was just it was so odd. I didn't say I was careful about my words and they just edited one together. Anyways, back to Brett, jaredy piece of crap. I mean, Brett, if I were in your shoes, I think I would be respectful of my friend and let this like, let that play out. If she's really not
interested in him, it'll fizzle out. And I think then you shoot your shot after that whole thing after they stopped dating, because you don't want to lose your friend, right, But I also want to beat that guy in the really stupid rom com movie who's like at their wedding and then she's like, I never knew. Yeah, that's fair point, I would say, So does she know that your friend is into her? Yes? All right, Well that makes things awkward.
Um yeah, I think I'm assuming that the friend doesn't have much of a history with this girl, which is why he's just into her and not like dating her. Um so I would, um, what would you do? What would you do? Jared, let's hear it. I would This
is what I would do. I would I would talk to the girl because obviously the girls talking to you, Brett and flirting with you a lot, and you're gonna say, hey, listen, my friends really into I don't want to step on his toes, Like you got to talk to him first and see if you know, like, you have to let him know that you're not into him. If if you're not, you know, because I can't be the one to decide that.
You got to figure that out. And then once if that moves on and that's over, then talk to your buddy and say, hey, listen, she told me that she likes me. I do like her too. I'd like to hang out with her, but I want to make sure that you're okay with it because I value our friendship. So that's what I would do. I would make sure like that she handles her situation with him first, see
where that goes. And if that ends and it's over, then of course, like if there's still a little flirtation between you two, talk to your buddy, see what he says. And then if he's like, no, you, bro, then I don't know that. I don't know how good of a friend that is, especially if it's not someone he dated, he's just someone into Like come on, I would say, here's my advice. I kind of I'm on the opposite
side of the spectrum. Then you, guys, I think that you should completely disregard the girl altogether, because it's never worth losing a friendship over someone that you kind of have a small crush shot and it sounds like you don't really have a crush on her. It sounds like you're just kind of into the fact that she's kind of into you, which makes it even less of a good idea to lose their friendship over or something like that. Yeah, and look, don't get me wrong, I see where you're
coming from. Everyone wants to be wanted. I feel I totally get that, and like you said, she's hot, so even all the better. Um I I jack pot. I personally think uh, and I have gone against this in the past and it's bit me in the butt. I personally think it's never worth risking a friendship over any type of flame because best case scenario, you get a
girlfriend and you lose a good friend. Worst case scenario, you lose a girl that you kind of liked and you lose your best friend and then you've got no one. So I always say, uh, stick with your friend, because you'll find another girl down the line at some point, and it's not worth the tension or the whatever for you and your friends to go through. That's what I think at least. Alright, alright, cool, So hopefully that helps Jared Kirk. But do you guys agree? Do you disagree?
I like that advice. Yeah, thanks, thanks. I felt like I felt like some for good advice. I just care that it sound advice. All right, bro, Well, thank you so much, appreciate you joining us. Best of luck with everything. Thank you great talking, great talking. M h. Hey, Jays, how's it going good? How are you guys doing? Thanks for doing absolutely so what's going on? Well? Uh? I
am I need some advice. I've been seeing any girl for about a month now mhm, and uh, and everything has been great, but it's like there's constantly I just keep noticing, especially when we're intimate, there's this like musk, a body odor by her armpits, you know, and it's like, uh, I don't know how to bring it up to her because I know she you know, she showers, she has good hygiene, but it's like this musk and and you know, it's it's all the time, watching a movie together, you know,
going places, restaurant even, and I'm like, I'm like, how do I you know, how do I tell that to her? And I haven't even you know, I haven't had sex with her yet either, so um, I'm not sure if that's going to parlay into some other situation, you know what I mean? M hm. So so I'm kind of wondering how do I approach that? How how what I talk to her? How do I bring it up? How do you bring up a stinky armpit? All right, this
is what you do. So you compliment her arms a lot, and you say, you know, babe, I love your arms. You should show if your arms you have great arms. So she starts wearing sleeveless shirts. And then you start cuddling with her on the bed and you kind of smell what's coming on, and then you just have like a deodorant in your pocket ready to go. And then make sure like her arms over you so you have access to the armpit, and then you say hey, like so if you're on her left side, her left arm
is over you. And then you say, hey, what's that over there? And when she turns right, just a little squeaky squeaky in the armpit, And then on that side you're good. And then if you just like, get up, go get a soda whatever, come back, go on her other side, cuddle, wait till you start smelling it, and then you say, hey, babe, what's over there? When she
turns squeaky squeaky right on the armpit? Good to go, and you do that for the next sixties seventy years because you're probably fall in love and marrier and you're good to go. Sounds like a great plan, is it? Does it sound like a good plan? Are we talking? Are we talking spray or stick? Jared? Because I think spray might be a little too wrong in my I was thinking stick in my head because the spray, yeah,
it's like it's gonna make too much noise. So because honestly, the stick could be just like a passing wind, you know. She's like, oh, I got a little childern right that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, interesting, I would say. I actually, before we get to my bad advice, I want to hear Kurper is good advice? I guess, Oh, I don't know if it's gonna be good. Okay, wait, so you've been dating a month, you haven't had sex, you really like her and see it going somewhere. Yeah,
you know everything. It's it's like, you know, I don't want to be that guy that's like, oh, you know, something's wrong with the toes and therefore I can't date her. I mean, in any relationship, you want to have good communication, and I think there is there's got to be a good way to bring it up. You've got to really pat it before I think and just be like hey, I mean I don't even know what you would say.
This is so hard because you offend her. Would you be offended if a guy that you were dating for a month said something about your smell? I think it would be the way he approached it, if he straight up was like, hey, you smell like or like something like there's some smell coming from your armpits. Yeah, I think it's the way you approach it. Yeah, So what's what's a good way to approach it? Then? Well, how would you want to be approached if you were smelling?
If my armpits were smelling? I think I would want some want to be like, hey I see this going somewhere. Um, I really like you. I care about you. Um, I've just noticed like maybe say, does she work out or do you guys work out together? Maybe like oh after workouts or something like maybe I don't know, I don't know. Well, I don't know a good way. What do you guys think? It's it's impossible. And obviously I hope we all know that my advice earlier was a complete joke. Could Jason
do not do that? But it sounds so serious obviously, what about what if? Because I would feel very insecure if my partner told me that I smell, but or not that I smell, but that like my armpits smell. But what if if, like if Dean came out to me it was like, bro, your armpits stink, then I'd like, oh,
has anybody else been smelling this? Like I would have a different reaction, and then I'd be more focused on making sure that I put the order and on, because sometimes my armpits do stink like I, you know, sweat. So I'm curious, maybe, Jason, if you're I don't know if this is a good idea, and but we're just
spitballing here. Should you tell a friend her friend and say, hey, listen, I don't want to say it, but you know, I really like her and I don't feel like I can't tell her this, but have you noticed that maybe sometimes I don't know a bad idea for her friend though she's gonna straight up go to her friend and be like this guy thinks you smell and he came to me, or but what if he's like, listen, I really like, what if Jayce went to her friend and was like,
I really like her. I wanted to continue, but this might be an issue in the future and I can't tell her that her arm pits stink. Would you be able to like as a friend, Like if you guys be like, oh, I don't know anything to help out, because then I don't know. If I was a friend, I'd be like, well, he's really into her, and I can get why, Like i'd have hard time saying it too.
I don't know I would Maybe maybe you could just start getting really smelled too, and then she says something to you, and then you say, well, that's funny because while we're on the subject, there's something I need to tell you as well. That's kind of honestly, I think that's probably what I would do. But I'm already I'm already I'm the girl in the situation where I'm already
the stinky one. Um, which is it's the best place to be because you don't have to have an uncomfortable conversation as long as you're okay with being stinky a little bit and comfortable with it for people to think that I'm stinky, you know, it's not ideal, but it doesn't like it doesn't bother me. And so if someone were to come to me and be like, hey, you stink,
I would be like, wow, thank you so much. And if someone wanted me to fix that, like Calin for instance, uh, she doesn't necessarily always ask me, ah, you know, like I personally don't think I stink very bad. I don't. I think I've got a great natural aroma to me. There are times where it gets a little out of hand, and when Calin comes to me and tells me these things, I am like, Okay, I'll shower in a couple of days.
Is that what you want me to do? And obviously I take care of it much to than that, but she does it in such a loving way where I don't get offended by it. And and Jase, I think for you in this case, you could approach it. It's it's hard because you're so new in the relationship, but you could legitimately be like, um, I just want to let you know I really like you, uh sing even saying this to you, it's kind of hard. So I can see why you're a little bit Would you like
gift her some perfume? I think that's what it is. I think that's what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna do a care package that just masks the smell. We need to take care of it at the source. Could you throw in a deodorant stick with the perfume maybe, hint. I think that's it. I think that's what I'm gonna do. Gift package, a little goodie bag for her gift basket. I mean she'll know. She'll know because the gift basket's gonna be full of perfume. And you're like, oh, I
don't like it. Let the girl stink, you know, just let hers letters letters. Maybe maybe she likes her smelly body. I like mine. Um, I don't know, James. We wish you the best, man. I hope if you get it figured out. We hope you got it figured out best. I'll do the gift basket. I thank you guys so much. Thanks to Luck, thank you so much, thanks for calling. All right, We've got Karen next. Uh Man, I gotta go shower after this. I think, poor guy, I feel
like we gave no good advice. Like that's a tough one. Best of Luck. I mean, I like being I don't think I stink. But I do like the idea of not wearing the odor in every day because it's not the healthiest thing in the world for you to wear the other all the time. I'm not gonna lie because I haven't seen you in a while. But when I saw you have Ben's bachelor party, you stop. Oh my god, that was like two years ago. You're still thinking about
my stick. You gave me a hug and I was like, who Yeah, it's because we just got done playing golf and it was hot there, Cara, are you there? H yes, I'm here. Sorry, we're talking about b oh. We had a previous calor? Is it? Is it? Carr? Car It's well, hello, Carol, welcome to help I suck at dating. Thank you so much for calling in. Yeah, I mean I wish I was calling with, not because I stuck at dating. But okay. I met this guy at the bar while I was working where I work and a few weeks ago, and
I liked him. Right as he walked in. I thought I probably wouldn't see him again, so I told him I found him really handsome. It's a pretty forward um. He thanked me, but like nothing else. A week later, I ran into him again and we talked for a bit, but like I couldn't tell if he wasn't interested or like just shy. So after a while I tried to approach him again, who was super drunk at that point, and he told me that he was sorry, but he
just wasn't interested. So I appreciated, you know that, him being honest, and I didn't even I didn't give it much importance. But then the next week I ran into him again at another party. He was very happy to see me, so honestly, I was not expecting that, but I wasn't thinking, you know, of having anything with him because of what happened the week before. So we talked and we danced, and he he told me that he liked me a lot. Um. Yeah, so I told him I liked him, but that he had rejected me the
week before. He said he was sorry, said he got super drunk. I forgot to ask for his number or like any contact information. I tried to get his number from like some of our mutual friends, but no luck. He was sweet and really handsome, but like all this keeps me thinking, like why do guys act like this? Like it's honestly so confusing. Why I reject me. Then the next day he really likes me, and like then you're too shy to kiss me? Like did he ever
actually like me? Like I can't read this man, Jared, what do you think about this? You said you met him at the bar where you that you so you were bartending. Yeah, I'm a I'm a bartender and server. No, because I think this is a very real thing. I think guy's fall in love with the bartender. I I'm not joking, I'm not. I swear to god, this is a thing that if um, because I suffer from this there if I went my single day is obviously not anymore.
But like if there's a female bartender, it's like, I don't know, there's something about getting bringing the bartender not home, but like getting the bartender's number. That's a better way of saying it. There's something to that. Um. So I think that this guy probably found you attractive, and then I think maybe didn't like you, or not that he didn't like you, but like, guys are stupid, you know,
guys want to He probably wanted a data round. He probably doesn't want a relationship, and then he saw you at the party after you know, he quote rejected you, and you probably looked good and he was, you know, feeling himself and you guys were dancing, and then you know he's I hate to say this, but he would probably do that with someone else too. And know this guy, I don't know this guy. I got a bad vibes about this guy. That's all, yeah, yeah, yeah, what do
you think? No, I agree, bad vibes about this guy. You don't need any part of him. Um. But the bartender thing, guys, And is that a thing that I think it is? I think it because if you go to the bar, there's something about getting the bartender's number that I think for guys, it's like almost competitive to
a certain extent. And then there's also like also, I'm sure care you know, when you're bartending, you look good and you're running around and you're in your element and you're working, you're making drinks, Like there's there's a bit sexy about that. And I think guys, I'm telling you, I think guys are there's like, you know, if you get the bartender's number, it's like, oh, like I must have been looking good. He didn't get my number, That's
the thing. I know. But I'm I'm I'm I know he didn't get your number, which is so ridiculous, and then you saw him again. How do you keep running into this guy? By the way, I know, I don't know. It's so weird, right though it's super weird. If you actually think about it, you're probably gonna run to him again. Yeah, I'm sure that we will. We clearly live close enough to each other. I just don't I don't know, Like, I genuinely have no idea how we keep running into
each other. We must have like we must live in the same area, or have a group of friends that are the same, but or a friend that's the same, because when I tried to get his number from the friends I thought were mutual, they didn't have it. So I don't know how we were at the same party. Maybe he lives near the bar or something. There might be some like you thing going on here where there's like something deeper that we're not quite picking up on. Yeah.
I'm just just proceed with caution care, is all I gotta say. I agree with Jared's overarching idea that all men are stupid, and uh, they deserve no explanation for, no excuse for anything that they do. Um, that's true. It's just it's just tricky, uh to think why he would act like this. It's so hot and cold, right, It's just it's one of those things where I think any advice we're going to give you is bad advice because who knows. Who knows whether he's gonna be hot
or cold the next day, you know. I think I think that. I think the biggest takeaway is maybe just uh, stop paying any peace of mind the guy and let it unfold naturally, kind of like like don't give him the power, but like put the ball in his court, but also at the same time, just put zero mental effort into caring about it and then see what happens. Right, I don't know, Yeah, I mean I can. I'm not going to think about him because I don't even have
his number, yeah, for Instagram or like anything. And you don't even know if he's a good kisser yet. Yeah, And you don't want to die that's so hot and cold. Like you want someone that's very confident about wanting to mesdue you, right, That's that's that's what it is. That's exactly it. Yeah. And if he's not giving you that, he is not worth any of your time. Damn right, I needed I needed to like hear it, you know what I mean? Perfect, just set you free. That's awesome. Yeah, well, Karen,
thanks for calling in. We appreciate it. We wish you the best of luck. It sounds like you gotta get your hands full over there. So yeah, I'm working tonight. I hope he doesn't show up well, best of why, I would not be surprised if he did. But thank you again for calling and we appreciate it. Best to luck and uh yeah nice. Yeah, all right, Well it's gonna do it for this week's episode or this Thursday's special caller episode of help. I suck at dating, um, Kurt,
But thanks again for joining us. This was so fun. Thank you guys. You're such a breath of fresh air. Thank you and Jared, you were such a breath of smelly armpit air. This is fair. I stink right now. I so can't believe you told me that I smelled at a Ben's bachelor party. Was just one It was when you're not saying I didn't smell bad. But there's a time and a place you could have texted me off of the air and told me these things First of all, everybody who listens to this podcast knows that
you stink at least six of the time. But no, no, this is why I don't like what you're doing right now is because the people that listen to this podcast won't get the chance to smell me and rebuke the idea that I stink, because yeah, maybe I do, but they'll never know, and they're gonna take your word for it. And how many times have you talked about you shower once a week on this podcast? People know you stink, bro, It's different. Just because I shower once a week doesn't
mean I smell bad. It was actually it was different. No, where did you come because you came Where did you come from? On the Bachelor weekend? You came from somewhere, didn't you, like on a trip? Um? I don't know you definitely because you were you. You said you came to the Bachelor party and you were dirty, you were filthy, because you just came from like a camping trip that
you were like gone for a week or something. But that was the first time I saw you, and you obviously had you like barely made your flight, so Dean and I can't remember where you came from somewhere you were like camping or something where you didn't have access to like water. Can I say something on topic, but off that topic a little bit, and I'm sorry because we need to wrap this up and we need to
get that out of here. I will say, after I shower and soak my whole body, I smell good for like maybe an hour, and then since I've gotten all my natural oils off of me, I can feel myself smelling worse than when I first got them before I got into the shower. You know what I mean? Yeah, Yeah, there are times where I leave a shower and I get like a whiff and like, I still don't smell that good. I don't Is it the Is it the body wash I'm using? Should I buy? Why am I
sweating more now that I just showered? It's that's my point. It's a natural oils on your body. I don't know. Man who knows showers are a scam? That's all I got. Well, don't they say that if you don't use deorderant, your body will naturally start smelling good, because it's like it will you know, I don't know. Well, according to ja'son, that's not necessarily maybe it is. Yeah, myth whatever, I'm gonna stick with it. And I'm I still can't believe
you said that on air. Jared, I'm gonna, I'm gonna lose it over here. We gotta get out, We gotta get out of here. Kirkpa thinks again. Best of luck with everything. Congratulations on your on your love with Taylor. Taylor. Yeah, Taylor, congratulations to the both of you. We're gonna be on the lookout for an engagement ring one of these days here pretty soon. So yes, yes, it'll come, it'll come. Thank you for joining us. Yeah, we look forward to
hearing more from you in the future. Thank you, guys. Follow help buy Suck at Dating on I Heart Radio or wherever you listen to podcast
