Speed Dating with Dean & Caelynn

not Kelly, it's not Kelsey, it's none of them. It is the one and only Kylen Miller Keys. Hello. I think I can't be your favorite if I've never co hosted before. Well you're my favorite. So welcome to the podcast. Thank you for joining us this week. Um, you know, I I think we both made a point of it early on in our relationship to not do many joint

interview joint media appearances together. That mostly probably was me deciding that because I just hate I just hate the way that people like look into it and read into

it and scrutinize. You also hate talking about chemistry. Oh, I also just I just really what it really what it really boils down to, is I just hate like the performative nature of a couple being on a public media outlet because because think about it, like, what are you expected to do just like be giddy, head over heels, NonStop gushing about each other, right, and then your response then is to kind of like shut down, and then people think that you don't actually love me and you'll

never say you love me, and headlines come from that, and I'll tell you what, It's worked out pretty well up There's definitely been a lot of negative headlines written about the dumb things that I say for good reason. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that they were. I'll justified. They do take my stuff out of context all the time. That's totally fine. It's totally fine. It's

totally fine. And if you want to know why it's fine, it's fine because at the end of the day, you know what's real and what isn't real or not real. But like, you know how I feel, not just like some out of context US Weekly article I was going to tell you how to feel. So anyways, all that to say, yes, I this is enjoyable, don't get me wrong. But if I, if it were really up to me in a perfect universe, it would still be me in Jared today. Yeah, I mean I for all of those

reasons that I just stated, Dean hates having Kady. Yeah, I mean, sure, run with it if you want to. I mean, look, it's great having you here, but it's the same reason like I don't want to be on your YouTube, which, by the way, if you're listening to this episode of help I start tore Dating, be sure to check out Kaylin's YouTube channel. What is your keys is just my name? Yeah? Yeah, okay, so Klin Miller Keys on YouTube. If she makes fantastic YouTube videos, go

check him out. Um. But yeah, I just don't like it. I know, I know you don't. I'm just giving you a hard time. And I agree. It's not like the nature of our relationship to talk about our relationship. It's just we just live it out. It's not even talking about our relationship like I could talk about our relationship without you here. I know. But it's with me that's

the issue. Yeah, it is an issue. And I'll tell you what one of my biggest pet peeves in the entire universe is is when you see the new Bachelor and his first pick come off the show, and like they're expected to like gush about each other and tell everyone how head over heels in love with each other they are, even if they just came off of a big fight. Yeah, and even if they like still are learning so much about each other. So it's just like

it's it's just annoying to me and sorry I'm here. Yeah, thank you for apologizing, um and so so so that's kind of I mean, obviously it's no secret because I think we mentioned that at the very beginning of our relationship to years and like seven months ago. Uh oh yeah, no one's counting though, um So, so if you send some of that today, just like you know, just kind

of understand. I think that's the issue. People think sometimes you really are just so disinterested in me, but you just hate me being here in present for talking about our relationship and like you're not a gushy person, Well what about you? Are you a gushy person? Can be? Well gush, go ahead and gush. What am I gonna gush about you? If you want? Know, Alison has been acting up today, but I can't gush about you. You are a great partner. You're sweet, you're funny, you're handsome.

What I'll tell you what I'll answer that phone call. I don't know. You keep seventies phone call. We keep entertaining our podcast listeners. All I can gush more about DNS. He answers the phone Ben Higgins room. Happen to help you, Dean is Higgs. We're in Ben Higgins room right now recording this podcast because we weren't able to get into our room. Ten's answering Ben's phone. Well, Ben away, probably grabbing lunch by And how's the room so far? Are

you enjoying it? Yeah? Old and quaint. Yeah, that's that's the best kinds seems haunted haunted. Have you had a paranormal experience yet? Not here, But Dean took me to a hotel in his hometown like last year, and that was very haunted. And he like went on tours in high school because it was like a like a haunted tour field trips. I guess hello, I returned, caln Is telling me about this haunted hotel. You took her too

in Colorado. I was a little disappointed in her inability to keep the conversation flowing while I stepped away for a moment, nary what was going on, but you would talk so loud. You know, Kaylin was a broadcast journalism major at Virginia Commonwealth University. Wow, I certainly was go Rams,

Go Ram's baby. Uh No, I could hear that that broadcast confidence in your voice, Kaalen when you I wish you would come on this podcast more because we actually we need trained media professional here every now and again. You just got doing over here. You want to show up on time. I just wish Calin had more confidence to just project more rights. It's there, it's just all want to take. All it needs to do is break through a little bit of uncertainty to bust through that.

It's it's it's it's movie magic. Put a script in my hands and welcome back to w TVR CBS six. I'm kil Miller Keys, I'm your host for this evening. Do you think Erin and has a script on the sideline reporter? Yes, I've actually got a blueprint and what you're supposed to say. But okay, I've got a blueprint for you here. Like, come on, why don't you just give us a little life update, Kalen? Like Philliston on what's going on with you? A little life update. So

we got Alistair about two months ago myself. Sure people already know that it's more like less of us and more of you. Um. I just haven't really been doing too much. Been working on some things behind the scenes, and uh, working on our house NonStop. Our house is just like an ongoing project and takes up a lot of time. I'm and I feel like that's all I've been really focused on lately, and trying to find a trainer for Alistair because he bit me in the face.

So tell us about the bite. Yes, So Alistair bit my face two weeks ago. And he's the sweetest dog in the world. But he's like very very protective over Diana and I. And that wasn't even the situation with the bite. He just was scared of this German shepherd and I was an uninformed dog parent and picked him up. And when they're in a fearful mode, they're just in their animal mode. So he attacked and bit my face. I had like four or five stitches. It wasn't that bad.

There are plenty of dog bites that are much much worse. Um, but it was scary. So I now the past few weeks have just been really focused on finding a trainer that isn't going to use shot colors on him, that isn't going to like abuse him in any way. And I know trainers say obviously they would never say, like we're going to abuse their your dog, but I don't know.

I just like I want to make sure he he's like taking I have and he's trained right now, We're in Carmel, and he's just barking at every single person in every single animal. So I just wanted to be well behaved. That's what I've been focused on. Okay, yep, that was a long explanation of alistair. But what else is going on with you? Just the house, like I said, just working on the house, making sure our house is finally finished. It's almost been a year. But our backyard

is like a continued process. And what have you been up to? Golf? I mean, I'm not I'm not the one on trial here. I just feel embarrassed. I'm not really doing that much. I feel every single day of the week. Um yeah, I mean, I guess I I we talked about this actually pretty often. I don't think I think it's kind of a cop out for us to hire a trainer for Alistair. It's actually been a point of contention in our relationship over the past twitter ten hours or so. I want to train him on

my own. Caitlin and I both have very, very different parenting. I want to know if people out there have ever trained their dogs like this, this common, or do people typically hired trainers. So if you want to slide into our d M S no, I want to hear the people's response. I would say, if you were to pull a hundred people that have dogs, I would say seventy of them or oh my gosh, this is what Dean does. Alistair's he's an older dog, right, so Alisa is our

second senior risk. Yeah, he's nine. You know there's a phrase about teaching an old dog new tricks. Yeah you can't. You can't do it, they say, Um, I wanted to. I just feel like training a dog is hard, and then when they're at an advanced stage, it gets harder. We have an older dog and we've definitely trained him. We've trained him to freak out when we leave the house and go hide under the couch and um, and we have trained him to uh want to eat what

we're eating, but um, nothing productive, So I'm interested. He's learning new tricks as an older dog, which is simply defeating the what is it the stigma, that's what it is of that old dogs can't learn new tricks. It sounds like your old dog learn all these great new tricks that you hate. Yes, yes he did, whether or not I wanted to train that way. But what do you need to train him to do? What's what's on the list? Um? Well, he gets very emotional around other dogs.

He freaks out, he barks, he lunges, not even just dogs. If someone walks a little too quickly in his direction, he'll get a little upset about it. Um if someone rides a bicycle or even as driving a car down the street, he'll get a little upset. But if no one moved or did anything, he'd be a pretty well behaved dog. Um. But I I'm kind of in the camp of like we should train ourselves. And I'm also in the camp of the owner's energy is reflected by the dog. And um, um, do you think I'm stressed

around him? So I'm causing his stress? Which is yes, she did. I have anxiety because he just bit my face and I had to get stitches. It's totally fine. I totally understand it. But when you're on edge around a dog that's already on edge, you're being on edge is going to like set him over the top. And that's just my opinion. I could be wrong. I just think that, like we need to take a step back and I'll take deep breaths together, me, you and Alistair.

My fear is that he's going to bite someone else. We're going to get sued. Someone is going to have a way worse bite than I did. I just want to prevent that. I mean, he's tasted human blood now, you know, like he's a vampire. Yeah, yeah, I mean, listen,

I get it. It's it's interesting to see because Caitlin's already' already admitted to like being a helicopter parent, and I've am definitely the opposite of that, and so it's interesting to see the difference in our perspective parenting styles because they're, uh, they're they're they're on the opposite side of the spectrum. But it's better than us both being lax parents, are both being helicopter parents. I disagree. I think I think if you're both re lack parents. We would have you

four your kids. Yeah, no, that's not true. We would have like Gossip Girl kids. That's even worse. Oh it's not worse, but it's bad there. They'd be like highly intelligent, I'm fully sentient teenagers that are just like going through life acting like forty five year old Wall Street bankers, but they're really sixteen year old girls. It doesn't I don't understand, really, gossip Girl, that's just kind of how I imagine it. Um so, yeah, I mean I don't

know Easter, And what about you? How do you guys have any conflicting parenting styles with your guys? Dog? Yeah, yeah, I'm I'm a helicopter parent for sure, and like because my dog is very well behaved, but he doesn't get along with other dogs. And my attitude was, he's like twelve years old, you know, so much longer as he just wants to hang out alone, why do we need

to subject him to their dogs? And uh, but my wife has tried to socialize him with some of like it would be nice so our friends could bring their dogs over and he could hang out, or we could get him a friend or something. And every single time we do it I just freak out because I'm like, he's going to this bomber, you need to shreds and I don't want to watch it happen. Um, and I'm afraid to let him off the leash anywhere. Like we we went to the beach and uh for the first

time last year, and like we let him off. We were in like a secluded beach. It was in the middle Catalan island. There's no one around, and I was still just like I just black my microphene. I'm I'm nervous now. It's it's manifesting itself now. Uh. He's sleeping in a little bed next to me and I'm just nervously never gonna wake up. It's the worst. But my wife is very hands off and very much what's gonna happen is going to happen. And I think it's a good balance. I think, do you think it's I do?

I do? I think I think you need to have those conflicting viewpoints because I think through that you will find a medium, the middle path, which is the right way to go. But don't you think it's okay? So this is my only beef with the two conflicting parenting styles. Is when Alice is around me and I'm trying to like teach him certain things for a couple of days, all of that goes out the window when he spends three days along with Kaylin and she's trying to teach

him things in a different way. Um, you know, same thing, but different style, and all of the progress gets lost immediately. I mean, that's true, and I can see that happening. I think when you have opposing viewpoints, the key is to find compromise in certain areas. That's the you know, but we don't compromise in this relationship. So I'm not saying that at all. I'm saying, why would you compromise. We try to go we find as many win win

situations as we possibly can. Yeah, exactly. The The important distinction between win win win is I've one having successfully moderated this win win agreement. My point is win win win sounds like just win. For Dean. I went all three times because I was right, I got my way, and now I'm happy the next three wins. What else do we want to talk about? You said, I have glad you're here because you know how you know how challenging it is for me to run an entire episode

by myself. And as great as it is, they have Kalen here. Um, you know it's it's so rare we get kalin here. I'm trying to like, I want to use this time appropriately. I want to take advantage. Um Kalin. Yeah, what what do you hate about Dean? What's your least favorite thing about him? Right now? This is a really opportune time to ask you that question because there's a lot of stuff on the surface. Oh hate about Dean. I don't hate anything about Dean. I just tell him

some of the things you told me last night. You're insane. Um, I justli his Uh. You can say what you can say, whatever you want to say. Dean loves his friends, which I do love, but like he really loves his girlfriends. And if he's golfing, he'll golf eighteen holes and then he's having so much fun that'll golf eighteen more holes and then f s time whole golf nine more holes and sounds miserable. And it's just like if we have plans, I know, I then have to be a helicopter girlfriend

and call and be like you left right, you left right? Oh, you haven't left, but you know we have this you know. Oh wait, do we ever have plans after I'm golfing? Though? No, we do? You have done that's my that's my plans. We very plan. Do you follow each other's location on your phone? Yes, we do, but you're still in so right. But when Dean says he's left and then it spent an hour and he's still at the golf course, okay.

But here's my here's my argument against that is I would weigh rather And this is how I've lived my life for the past thirty years. And I'll tell you what it's worked pretty gosh darn well from me up until now. Is I am always an ask for forgiveness, not for permission kind of guy. So when Killen's like, yeah, we'll be home by one, and I know for a fact I will not be home by one, I'll just

be like, yeah, I'll be home by one. And then she calls me at five and she says, hey, have you left yet, And I'd be like, oh, my gosh, we have got one more holes to go and around hole twelve. And then I get home and it's three pm and she's like, why are you two hours late? I'm like Oh my gosh, I'm so sorry. Golf took a little bit longer tay, which it normally does. Don't get me wrong, but yeah, maybe it's a maybe it's a breakdown and communication toxic. Oh my god, tell me

tell me how a toxic? That's a little harsh. No, tell me that's great. Can't just say like little little things like yeah, I mean I'm leaving and you haven't left. I just I'm ridiculous. But he thinks he's right. Here here's the other thing. Do you always thinks he's right no matter what situation. Even if he knows he's wrong, he'll never admit it. Here's the thing. Here's the thing. I'm a yes man, And if you ask me a question like, oh, will you be done by this time?

I'll be like yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes yes yes. I just like saying the word yes. It's my favorite word to say yes, yes, yes, yes yes. And if I Caitlin is like typing something to you right now, and I'm losing my train of thought and I just want to say yes. I want to say yes to her about everything, everything she wants for me. I just want to say yes too. And so she wants me to be done by one pm. Yes, maybe, of course

I'll be done by one pm. Um, but then you know, sure enough, to thirty comes around and I'm still not done. So I'm sorry. That's just that's I'll stop saying yes as a frequently as I do. But let's move on to a different let's move on to a different subject soon. What do you say? Wait, one last thing. I'm just enjoying the psychoanalysis of Dean Imla Dean. Do you do you see yourself as a people pleaser? Um? Yes I do?

Actually absolutely, yeah, I'm getting that sense. Yeah, Pa, I don't know, uh, like partially, but you also like do whatever you want. Even that means like it's not going to make them happy because like think about the podcast. You know, like when you're late to a podcast, you're not people pleasing. Then I'm like a selfish people pleaser. I always look out for myself first, but I always want to make sure that people are pleased around me. Is that fair? I've never thought of you as a

people pleasing Oh, I mean, I'm a calin pleaser. I just want to make sure Caalen is happy all the time. Are you currently pleased calin Are you pleased? Are you please? Right now? I'm all right, you're just all right, that's a that's a hard no, I'm pleased you please, I'm please? Yeah, okay, are you at people please? Reason? Oh yeah, big time, big time. Yeah. I think most children are divorce are I just want everyone to be happy. I just want the fighting to stop and uh, you know, just do

whatever anyone says all the time. But I also understand, like you know, when someone's like can you do this, and you're like, yes, I can, and even in your mind you're like, oh, that's not gonna happen. Like I think you like to live in that moment where it feels like I think, you know, I think you just made something click. For me, too, is whenever someone says can you do this? In my head, I'm like, listen, I can literally do everything. I can do anything and everything.

Just tell me what and where to do it and it'll get done. And then like once it comes to the time, I'm like, oh crap, I definitely can't do that, you know. I think it's my own narcissistic ego in my head where I'm like, yeah, I can do I can be everywhere at any time I can be I am like this omnipotent each ye that can just do everything at all times. But sure enough, at the end

of the day, I'm not that person. I don't when when he's stays to play extra golf or is late coming back, I don't think that's a Kalin matters less to me than this right now. I think it's a I want. I don't want to let Klin down. I also don't want to let my friends down. I don't want to let myself down. And I really like playing

golf right now. And you know that makes sense. Yeah, that's a that's a really good point because by leaving golf and letting my friends down, my friends are right in front of me right there, So I feel more guilty beallting them down because they're in front of my face. I guess you you are a people pleaser, but like a different version of a people pleaser than most people. Like I'm a people pleaser. I would say Eastern as a people pleaser, But you're like a different breed. But

I'm a different breeder. He's build different different Have you have you blown off your friends to be with Klin Dean? Probably more than the I would say more often than I yes, more than often than the other way. But but here's the thing and and and this this applies to everyone in every scenario, is we always remember the times that we weren't prioritized instead of the times that we were prioritized, because they become less of an issue. Right.

So it's like, if I'm blowing off my friends to play golf to hang out with you instead, like I don't get any positive praise for that because that's kind of us expected of me, which is totally okay, and I totally understand that. Um, but if I don't blow off my friends, then I get not in trouble. But like then there's like a you know, cause for concern. I guess, yeah, I'm lost as well. I'll be honest. We were waiting a little bit of time for this podcast to start, so I went out and had a

couple of hell of pain your Margarita's. I still feel guilty about saying you're that's a toxic trait. I did not mean, you know, and so I mean it's your's. You have every right to tell me whether or not do you think it's a toxic. No, it's not toxic. I think Easton helped us see it in a different way. Yeah, you are, people, please are in a very I just say I'm a victim of my environment. Whatever environment i'm in, I want to be in that, and you're like fully

dive into that environment. Yeah, that's exactly right. Anyway, should we maybe move on to another topic so I don't get my butt kicked after this episode's over? Yeah, it's my show, You're right, And because it's my show, I'm going to take the initiative and just say we're gonna take a quick break because the three of us need to have a team meeting about about what we can and can't discuss next. So we're gonna take a quick break. Just stay tuned through these commercials and we'll be right back.

All right, everybody, welcome back to help I suck at dating, and I'll be honest. The last segment, we were supposed to answer a couple of Q and eight questions we have teed up here, but we never got around to any of them. So Easton, I hope that we all can answer them together. Is that possible? Yeah, definitely, Okay, I can here. I'll read them, I'll pull them up because I definitely have them handy. Yeah, I can tell that you definitely have them right there, just pausing for

dramatic effect. You know, there's nothing if there isn't suspense on a podcast. Okay, uh Q and eight questions here we go. Uh let's do something spicy. Yeah oh um. Is it important for you and your partner to have different interests in hobbies? Yes? Absolutely. Is it important for

you and your partner to have different interests and hobbies? Yeah, And Dean obviously loves golf and that's like a very time consuming hobby, and I my hobbies are like an interest tennis and like going out with my girlfriends on the weekend. And tennis is like a big one, but that takes like two hours max, whereas his takes up like I have to eight hours. So I I've been trying to find a hobby that lasts as long as

Dean's hobby. But I do think it's important for us to do our separate things because I feel like we grow a lot more when, like we have that time apart, when we're not constantly like on top of each other seven I think we do better as a couple. Just like having a few hours here and there with our friends. I'm just disappointed at the only hobby that you tell people that I have is golf. No, no, I'm sorry, Oh my god. It's or or wood working or traveling.

But because of COVID, that was like the only thing you could really do. Okay, sure, but it's not that golf is my only hobby. It's that golf is the only hobby of mine that you hate. No, but I wasn't saying I hated it, I know. But anyways, that's so I also agree that it's important to have opposite hobbies, not opposite hobbies, but different hobbies. Um, because yeah, like Caitlin said, it gives you a chance to explore different things on your own. But even like you know, golf

takes a long time. Also, skydiving takes a long time. I don't have a hobby that takes a long time, so I'm still finding one because it would be nice to have like six hours in my day just investing in a hobby. Yeah sure, yeah, So if if anyone has any long term hobbies for Kalin Center d As, I love Dennis, but I don't have a stamina to it just playing. It's a lot of times. It's much more high intensity than golf. Um have either? I like that. This is a question. Have either of you ever joined

the Mile High Club? Oh? My god, I have not. You've never joined the Mile High Club? Oh my gosh, I've never joined. If you joink in the city of Denver, does that count? Oh? Yeah, that's a good question. Actually, um, I would say, I would say why not? Why not? I don't think you're technically an honorary member of the actual mile a Club, but you know, the Mile High City Club. I think might be an important distinction to make there are you? Are you? And uh? Radio Luxembourg

know not at all? Uh, that's disgusting. I think those bathrooms are grass um Uh do you ever? Do you ever cook for each other? Yes? I do? Who does most of the cooking? Me? Who dost the cooking? Postmates don't. I was about to say, I'm a huge fan of Postmates, so shout out to Postmates. Were doing? What's the cooking for us? But when we're in Vegas it's a lot easier to cook because it's just like, I don't know,

we have a big island. It's easier. I made homemade pasta, homemade pasta sauce recently, but Dean also made me pasta with impossible meat and a salad a couple weeks ago. Klin has many obsessions that she'll like, buy a super cool spaghetti maker, and she'll use a couple of times, and then she'd be like, I'm on my next thing. I'm on to coffee grinding now, I'm onto my next thing. I'm onto panini pressing now. She got She's got a lot of interests um and so she likes using them

and cooking for us. That's part of like being a homeowner and growing your kitchen. I'm saying, I'm saying it's a great thing. I think it's a great thing. I like that when you I like when you get a new utensil or whatever it is, because appliance, because it means that you're going to cook a delicious meal for us. Pasta was like if that was delicious? She always she's always so critical of herself. I thought it was the

best meal I've ever had in my entire life. And I had to tell her that twenty times before she started to even believe me. A tiny little bit pasta seems really hard to make. That seems like something a factory has to do, you know, So the fact he did it at all, I'm extremely impressed. Yeah. What do you think our red flags look out for when dating? Mm hmm you have first what are some red flags that you saw in me that you look past, that

you just overlooked? Well? I mean, um, he specifically like, yeah, you know you had been on we met on Paradise, you had been on Paradise before, was very nervous to date you on that show, as you should have been, and that was a red flag I overlooked. Why Why did I overlook it? Why was it a red flag? You know, you like dating someone and then a new shiny thing came down and he started dating her. Oh so you're saying, my first stint on Paradise was the

red flag, not me being on Paradise the second time? First? Okay, sure, so I overlooked that. You overlooked it or you just looked you could see the heart of gold within me? Yeah, so what did it? Did you overlook it or did you just see the true colors? I saw that colors eventually. Okay, so pretty quickly, I guess. Okay, so what was a question in Eastern are the red flags that you can look past. What red flags do you look for? Like? What, yeah, what should you be looking out for? I guess going

on Bachelor in Paradise is a big one. Yeah, yeah, I guess, Like more generally speaking, my biggest red flag whenever I used to day obviously this is ages ago, was whenever anyone they wouldn't remember specifics about conversations that we had already had. And that's just that that's a red flag to me because that means that they're having a lot of similar conversations with a lot of other

potential partners or prospects, whatever it might be. And I that's like one thing that I always like really picked up on. It was like really cute to pick up on. Two is because if they're asking like a question that you've already answered many times, then it's like they're they're playing. You know, you're just one of a number on the notch on their belt if you will, it's a good, good red of flag. Uh, let's see. It was it hard to adjust to moving in together when you guys

did it, Um, you can go for it. I don't think it was actually we like we moved in together. Quote unquote in um in the middle of COVID. So he kind of moved into my place because of COVID, because he just had his van, and because it wasn't like officially like signing the lease together, it felt like it was less pressure. And I feel like it was

a pretty easy adjustment. Um, just like, I'm not as clean as I want to be, and I like I can do as my own mess, but then having someone else's mess come in was a little bit of an adjustment. But we're learning, We're learning. I'm learning, we're learning. I mean, we are, we do be learning out here. You know, would you who's the messier of the two? Oh, well, that's an easy answer, that's an easy answer. No way, you're the messiest person. She's always so critical about me

being messy. But then I look in the corner and there's two human tall stacks of clothes because and I'm like, hey, Kitleen, what's put this big stack close over? And she goes, she goes, oh, it's all organized. I just need to like hang them all up. Yes, exactly. Yeah. So if I'm like shooting stuff, or I have like something coming up, or i'm packing, like I just have to lay it all out and visualize it, try everything on because I'm crazy, and then it sits there before I actually pack it

into some case. And the thing is, I'm fine with it. Like, I never criticize anything about the messages you make, except for when you criticize me for the mess that I make, because I'm not the cleanest person either. Don't get me wrong, I know that I'm a little messy, but I don't like being called messy when there's a big mess that you made over in the corner, you know, But to me, it's not a mess. It's like I'm about to I'm

about to travel, and that's all my travel. C Oh, so you're gonna bring five checked bags with you to four days in Monterey practice. Obviously I'm exaggerating to prove a point, but but I would say we're equal, equally messy. I don't want to open an old wound. But I was thinking back to Dean spilling the black paint on the floor, and like, I just picture that Dean has more of those kind of messes for sure, for sure, and that's totally justified, and I'll totally accept all responsibility

for that type of mess. But Caitlin like kept getting upset with me too, and again totally justified for her cup set with me for a lot of those mistakes like spilling paint and stuff, and I had to keep reminding. I was like, Calin, like, I've never done this before. I've never painted a room before, I've never done any of this stuff. So like I'm still learning like the process into it. And I hope, I always hope that was enough to like justify me making those like tiny

because it wasn't me making a mess. It was just me making like silly little airs, you know. Yeah, And that's something I suggs about two sometimes because we have all white furniture and he'll be eating like spaghetti on the couch and I'm like, be careful, and then I end up being the one who spills and he's like your climb sues and me. So I think I project a lot, yeah, well terms of yeah, I talk about projecting a lot for sure. She definitely gets really angry

when I picked my nose in her car too. Oh my gosh, that is like again, do you pick it into my d M s If your partner picks their nose, do you pick your nose in front of people ever know, thank you, thank you, and flicking boogers? Are you kidding me? I don't flick them. I saw I'm flicking them at you. I'm flicking them away from people. I'm like saving people.

The trouble of them having boogers flicked at that is it leaving the car, rolling the window down and flicking it out, or you just sometime Well, let's say, if you're on the state and you're going ninety miles an hour, I'm not going to roll the winter down and then there'd be like in a freaking sonic boom chamber or something. Just use a tissue. Yeah, well, I I have a lot of boogers and there's nothing I can do about it. He always, he always says, stop booker shaming me. So

many bookers in my nose. Why would you book shame? Get booker shamed all the time. Use a tissue. So the thing is about boogers when you're when you have the genetics that I have, these boogers cannot be blown out of your nose. They have to be surgically removed. The fingers says, they're super strong bookers. They're so strong. I've got a lot of hair up there, and every booker is intertwined with like seventeen nose hairs, and so I've got to pluck them out. This goes back to

me saying that whatever Deed does, he's never wrong. It's not that I'm wrong about it, it's that you. I'm looking for a little empathy here, Like I know you can't understand where I'm coming from because you don't have these horrible to talk about, these crazy bookers. He would say, I've never seen a case like yours before. This is the most extreme case of booker O since I've ever seen in my entire life. With your very sterile finger, Well,

this has been eye opening, This has been enlightening. This has been a learning experience for all of us. But I think we have to I think, all right, well, you know what, guys, I do could think that we've talked enough about all things boogers and just everything else we've talked about on this podcast. Golf. Um, let's just go ahead and forget like this ever even happened. What

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