Quarantine: A Love Story

the Time of Corona. And who better to help co host this episode of Help I Suck At Dating than these two because I've only seen episode one, you guys, but I can tell there is a little bit of romantic tension between the two of you. Uh but if you guys could just take a second and introduce yourselves to our listeners, would be awesome. Everybody. I'm Tommy Dorfman. Hey, everybody,

I'm Ratty Quality. There we go, There we go. So so for the listeners, when you hear the voices that correspond to those names, you know he you're listening to. But Tommy, Rainy, you guys both start in this new show, Love in the Time of Corona, And I think it's pretty cool because we were talking about this off here a little bit. But this seems to me at least like the first show that was like conceptualized in the

midst of the pandemic and is now being aired. So it's like it was it was ideated and then created and now being aired for us through the midst of this pandemic um and so it's got like a very fresh perspective for us. And there's like some weird filming tricks that you guys used for this, right, Like you

didn't really have filming crews. Well, first of all, it was actually filmed in your your house, your apartment, yes, and then in yours Because you guys are are you guys quarantined together or were you quarantining for the duration of like the show was filming, we were in the

same quarantine quarantine yeah, yeah, clean up. I mean ever since I guess quarantine started, we've been we had like a small group of friends, we're all hanging out, and then when this came up, we had already been quarantined together and actually stayed at Tommy's why we were shooting.

So yeah, we've been together this full time. And that's that must have been super interesting for you guys, right, because you guys have both acted in many other things before, and this was the first one where it's like you're acting from your home essentially, right, Like that must have been pretty strange. Yeah, it was super weird. I never I don't really like strangers in my house, so it was quite a leap of faith to let UM viewers into my house. But I guess because it wasn't it's

not a reality show. Um, it's scripted, and I could hide all the things I wanted to hide. Give give us an example, what did you want to hide? Like, I'm just kidding, I actually don't have any sex toys. Um. Saddest is that I had to hide my dogs because they just would not have cooperated with us. So what did you with them? You just put them in another room or something, or I put they went to summer camp. Okay, they went to dogy camp. Did they come back a

little bit more obedient? Yeah? They learned place. Okay, that's good. One trick is good enough, I think, right. Yeah, you know, you can't buy it off too much. You know, Rainy, how is it for you? Because it wasn't necessarily your apartment that you were in, But I guess it was

still I'm sure, a bit of a shift. Yeah, I mean for me it was pretty nice because well, we were shooting we only we don't We shot all four episodes in three or four days, so it was a lot heavy workload, and it was really convenient staying at Tommy's place. Yeah, there's like an extra apartment and Tommy's house, so I was staying down there and we'd run lines at night and go to sleep and wake up and make coffee there and then just work all day and kind of it was great to do scenes just in

my bed. Yeah, I can't really imagine. All right, I've got a question for you guys, so and and don't spoil anything for me because I've only seen the first episode and Caitlin and I are going to binge the next three over the next couple of days. But this, uh, the shower guy, like the hot shower guy as you call them in episode one? Is he actually a neighbor or is he someone that you just knew that was

hot and you wanted to have in the show. That's I think based off of There are two guys who are actually writer director duo and they live below me in Los Fields, and they shower naked outside where they rigged this hose, and I think I told Joanna about it, and she was like, oh, that's a funny idea. Let's have a hot shower, hot naked shower guy. But they wouldn't let us use their yard for filming, so we

they rigged a shower in my courtyard. Um, and we didn't ever really get to like meet that actor necessarily. It was just like acting from like a very big distance yea, like a random neighbor that they put into the show. No, I think he's another one of Joanna's shows, Got You, Got You. That was my main question was it could have just been some random shower guy. You're like, you know what, he's hot, Let's incorporate him into the show somehow. That would have been king. It would have been.

It would have been and I wouldn't have hated it too perfectly honest. Um. So in the first episode, we see that you guys are like basically bfs, right, and you guys, as many people in the midst of this pandemic are you start talking about like, well, how are we going to meet someone? How are we gonna start

dating people? And I'm glad that we saught escalate quickly enough to the point where you guys were already doing with the Skype dates and everything too, because a lot of shows would have like draged that out over a couple episodes, but we got right to it with you guys, and the skype dates were honestly pretty spot on, which is what I could, I think, what people can expect

with Skype dates during all this kind of stuff. Um. But then what I found really interesting was that Rainy, your character, l right, was kind of throwing some some some sex eyes over at Oscar in the middle of the bathtub. So I'm excited to see how that whole relationship escalates a little bit, and I think that something's going to happen between the two of you. But again, don't spoil anything for me, but tell me what we might be able to expect with that difficult deciposed to

not don't mean for my person, what's going to happen? Right, Okay, Like, if you're a person stuck in a house with someone else who you love deeply as a friend, there's potential, especially if that person looks like Rainy, not I mean even if they didn't look like Rainy, but especially like I mean Rainy's my most beautiful friend. Um, things might

go down. I mean, let's be honest, both of you guys are hot, so I think I think you have to you have to at least be willing to admit that, right, But yeah, I could see like, like what is does this relate to your real life? But all I guess it's the question like are you guys quarantined with a significant other or are you skype dating people? Are you in this weird romantic fling thing with your roommates? What's

going on? I mean, we did not have sex, but I'm in an open marriage and I haven't gotten to have sex with anybody other than my husband this whole time. And that's been okay, that's been a bummer. And you're

pretty open about that. We talked about open relationships in the past on this podcast, and I guess I'm I'm kind of curious to hear more from your perspectivebout that if you willing to share about it, because it's like it's it's it's an interesting thing to talk about, especially when it's um like a head or head sexual relationship. I feel like it might be a little bit more

challenging for for whatever reason. But how did you and your husband have that conversation like about having an open relationship? Bestly just super young when we met, and I think we both were on the same page that you know, we definitely wanted to spend our lives together in some capacity. But like sex can be separated from the sort of emotional connection of love. And it's not to say that like we have emotionless sex with people they think it's

always kind of emotional in some level. But there's definitely a distinction to be made for me at least and for him, um, between sort of you know, having a relationship with somebody else and just having like a sexual friendship with somebody else. Right, I guess there's gotta be a clear distinction. Is there like a lot of the sort of like burden off of each other to be our only to be everything for one another, So there's there's more freedom there, and we don't hold each other

to such high expectations, right, Right? Is there any uh similarities between you and Oscar? Because Oscar in the show says that, uh, you know, I guess l always thought that he was only interested in men, but then she comes to find out that he might be interested in women as well, So I think I think they're trying. Yeah, I think there's some similarities there because I've had some

questioning things myself. But on the other side of things, like as you'll see throughout the show, Oscar turned Oscar is not a super trusting person and just sort of a jealous person, and I'm of those things when it comes to relationships. I'm pretty like, go do whatever you want to do and like come back home to me and we're good. Yeah, Rainy, have you an open relationship? No, I am much too like jealous and possessive relationships. How, Rainy, how is dating for You've been in quarantine or do

you have a partner as well? Um, I don't have a partner. There have been like some quarantine plings, I guess, but nothing nothing curious. You haven't had any superhero quizzes yet? Superhero quiz? Yeah, you have a superhero. The guy's like trying to proposition you need to take a superhero quiz in the first episode. No, Um, I haven't kind of funny that you guys are on uh separate sides of the spectrum in a sense, I don't know which one

is better. Work So I have my girlfriend Kalin, and we've been obviously quarantined since back in February, and it's kind of one of those things where it's like you spend so much time in such a confined space with the other person that you almost kind of wish you could just like have more alone time or like get away from them for a little bit, you know, in

certain sense. But also if you're like alone during these times, it might be one of those cases we're like I just need some social interaction, you know what I mean. So it's kind of like the grass is always greener. I feel like, for sure I finally left you finally, Like just what went for a walk or what? No, I'm in Montana? Oh yeah, I like I went far just just to get away for a little bit or what was the reason? Yeah, I just needed a break from the house. And also I think from my husband,

like I love him. That's a long time sweet peet, and sweet Pep needs a break from me. I'm so annoying. Oh my god, Yeah, that's so funny that you say that we're my girlfriend and I are about to take our first big break since quarantine started, and we were like even to her I was like, dude, you should be so excited to get away from you for a little bit, and she's like sad about it. But I'm like, you're you definitely need a break from me because I'm

annoying as hell too. Um, that's funny. I'm gonna be up in Montana too. Maybe we could link up like a hike or something. Like the only place our whole group has gone during quarantine. My brother lives Montana's. I've been up a couple of times with our little group of friends too. It's so funny. I don't know live like everyone just goes to Montana very quarantineous. I feel like Montana has got to be like the best place in America to socially distance, just because there's so much

like openness up there, you know, open and beautiful. Tell me, I'm curious to know more about the show. So you guys we talked about a little bit at the beginning. It wasn't like your full on production in your house with you. There was like remote cameras set up right and they were controlling in the front. What was that

like acting acting with that? Because I'm sure it's got to be incredible to go from like having this director producer on set with all these camera people too, then you're probably setting up the camera right and then they're controlling them from a distance. Was that weird for you guys to handle it all? Well, Tommy has a roommate that they trained to be uh pa. So fortunately, like before we started shooting, I was like, oh my god, I am how I don't know how to do a

camera and it was very into medating. But luckily they taught Quinn. He was he was like moving the camera everywhere and slating. But we did have to like take on a bunch of more roles than we typically would have, just as as actors normally grown hair and makeup and costumes and put our on our own mics and um. Yeah. So it's like at the start, I was kind of apprehensive about how it was going to actually go down because I felt like there's a lot of pressure to

do things that I didn't feel capable of. But after the first day, everything kind of settled in and we were actually able to get a lot more done, taking on so much more than we typically would. Um. But yeah, then like outside, all the different departments had separate little tents and were wearing masks and was very lots of protocol in place. Um, but yeah, yeah, I think it

turned it out pretty well. It was so nice not having like a hundred people do you have to pretend aren't there while you're acting and just have two cameras and then getting directed through was so it was very liberating, and um, I kind of wish every experience could be like that. Yeah, I can only imagine, and I bet you too. The fact that you guys like how to do your own makeup and hearing all those things kind of added to the authenticity of being in quarantine, you

know what I mean. Yeah, that's exactly what I was referring to. Yeah, you looked really bad and I just wanted to make still the other day and I was like, oh my god, I look busted. No one told me, But that makes it more naturally, you know, we're like, oh, this guy actually just quarantined. Yeah. Um sweet, Well you guys. So typically what we do with this podcast is we have listeners email us in their questions, right, like they've

got these dating questions. It's called help by Sucker Dating for a reason because we all suck a dating and we want to be able to help the people out sucker dating with us. So I was thinking it might be fun if you guys help me answer some of these questions from our listeners. Are you down for that? I'm definitely not on how to be good at dating right?

And what I always tell the list there's two is to do the opposite of what we recommend for them, because you never want to follow someone's advice if they suck a dating, right. Um, So, Mark, if you're there, can you read us some emails from Anneka? Maybe? Well, sure, I'd be happy to This was actually sent in last week during the live virtual help I Suck a Dating we did. This was from Julia. She asked, what was

the worst dating advice you've ever received? Oh my gosh, I'll have one of you guys handle this one first. So I'm supposed to say the opposite of what the worst dating advice like, actually give your best advice. Give your best advice. But I just want the listeners to know that everything that we say just needs to be taken with the biggest grain of salt possible. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay, So what do you think? What is your worst dating

advice you guys have ever received? Play games. And by that, I mean I've had friends to be like, well, if they wait thirty minutes to text you back, wait an hour. I know that's that's so stupid, like the double the time if they take twenty minutes, take do you seem more? Like? I don't. I don't even know the point of that. Like I'm just such a like I want to marry, let's move in together person and like either that scares you or it doesn't. No games, no game? Yeah that's good.

That's good, nanny. What about you? What's the worst dating advice you've ever received? My mom has given me a bunch of weird dating advice. It's not that bad. And I'm just like, what is what do you? What are you thinking? Like like last week she was telling my sister like, oh, make sure you wear some pretty virginal dresses, and I'm like, what the hell, mom, what do you mean? So I honestly got to know what is it? Do we know what it is? Like I think like pretty

slow a dresses too, I don't. I don't know. Okay, okay, to attract a mate, I mean, I mean I do love a good sun dress. I gotta be honest. I guess, but I would say the worst dating advice I've ever received. Again, it's kind of hard when you just have to think

about it on the spot. But a lot of my friends they're always like, like, let's say you just got over a breakup, And I think the worst advice friends always give each other is just like that you need to go out and like hook up with as many people as you can to get over your ex, and it just never really seems to work. It might work like short term, but I think long term you just kind of look back and you kind of feel maybe

like a little icky about it. And I think that's just like very common advice, especially amongst my friend groups. So that's probably the worst advice I've ever gotten and not what I would recommend anyone else do. But let me one to the next one. Mark you got Anika here? Yeah, do you want to read that one for us? I was wondering what your thoughts are about wanting more independence in your relationship without hurting or offending your significant other.

I'm kind of like Dean in the sense that I want to do what I want when I want to do it. At the beginning of my relationship, my boyfriend and I hung out all the time. I started using Bumble for friends, and I want to start hanging out with my girlfriends more as well. Every time I want to, I feel like I'm offending him, but I'm not trying to. All his relationships are of wives, so anytime we hang out with them, it's all of us together, and he

doesn't get together with them as much without me. I was wondering if you have any advice on this and how I said to be more independent again without him getting hurt, or how to explain it to him nicely that I need more alone time by myself and with friends. For context, I'm twenty six, he's thirty. I feel like we're very blessed to have Tommy on for this question because I think this kind of just fits in kind

of almost what we talked about earlier. Yeah, I mean, here's the thing that's on him if he's feeling sad about like you wanting independence and like he needs to figure that out on his own. In my opinion, like there's I think as long as you're honest and you communicate like hey, I need my own time, I need a loan time, that's gonna make our relationships stronger, and if he has a problem with you needing independence, then like he's not the one period, Like move on. It's

just like that's so controlling. If your husband were to ever say anything along the lines of I don't want you to go to Montana, how would you what would you reaction be granted, okay, cool? Why? And if he was like, it's a lot of responsibility to have two of the dogs right now, and I'm really busy with work.

I just really need you here to help, and I'd be like, okay, fun fair, right, But like if it was because I'm gonna be lonely, I'd say, maybe you need to be lonely and work some things out and I'll see you in two weeks. Yeah, I agree. I agree with that. I think that especially when the president is set early on, when Caitlin and I first started dating, that was one of the big things that I was made sure that she knew that what she was getting

herself into. Essentially, I was like, look, I like, like go out on my own for a couple weeks at a time. It's just like one of the things that I need to do to recharge my own bat And we've lost bean. You know you guys might not know this. Dean does the show from his van, so we deal with this at a regular basis, Just so you know behind the scenes it did look vand why he steals WiFi from area hotels and coffee shops. Anyway, here's another

email for you. I'm currently seeing someone who I've been with for the past two and a half years and relationship has never had any problems. However, this past year, I'm finding we have lost the spark in our relationship and feel like the love I feel is more of a friend love that a romantic love. He doesn't feel this way. I've brought it up. I'm twenty one and wondering if you have any advice. Is it wrong to break up with someone just because of that reason alone?

I am scared there will not be a good guy out there to treat me this well, and I don't want to lose my best friend. Help. I would say, if you are old and you're feeling like you've lost the romantic spark in relationship, it's it's only fair to like be honest and communicate that probably you should break up. You're young and you should like explore and hopefully if you're honest with each other, you can remain friends and who knows them the line where will happen if it's

like a true connection whatever. Also, like life is sure, you should have a good time, find someone like that or just trying to do the people and see like what else there is in the world. That would be

my advice. Yeah, I mean, I think again, I'm very like honest communication in a relationship, being really open, and you're an adult twenty one, but you're also so so young and like I'm twenty eight now, and I think so many things have happened, so many different experiences, so you should definitely just be like, just tell them that you want to be friends, and um, he might be hurt for a little while, but if you're meant to be together in some capacity and in each other's lives,

will be together in each other's lives. But you should definitely be having fun right now period. Yeah, And just because there hasn't been some traumatic thing to end the relationship doesn't mean that it wasn't run its course. Yeah, And that kind of leads and Mickey's email is similar and just to summarize, she got guilfted from a guy who said he genuinely wanted to be friends. He says,

I'm not just saying that, I really do. I'm going to call you in a week and we'll talk about And then he never called and that was in May. So what she's asking is why would he goes to me? And is that a thing? The guys ever really want to be friends when they just say in that. I mean, I think if somebody who goes too, that's a pretty clear indication that they're not interested, and that can be really painful if you time is painful. But I would just say, like you, you probably why would you want

to be with someone that treats you poorly? So like try to like send yourself a little love and get over the hurt and like a person that teasy that way you wouldn't want in your life anyway. Yeah, this is a great opportunity for revenge. Definitely go his best friend. Um no, I think, um Kim, And listen, you're gonna go someone in your life too. We've all done it.

Sometimes people aren't decent enough to have these very uncomfortable conversations, or maybe something really tragic happened, So you should hold space in your heart for him, and you know, like we say in this out, pray for him. I don't think that's the case, because he was following her, watching all the Instagram stories for about a month and he's canceled. He's canceled exactly. Honestly, I think this is better advice than Dean and Jared would have given. So thanks to

both of you. Thank you so much. It's just so much fun. Thank you. And Tommy, you're off to what did you say you're gonna do? To do archery? Right now? I'm gonna go do some archery, which is very off brand for me, but as was my fly fishing excursion yesterday. But I'm honestly, like I was telling my friend earlier, I thought my Montana's my first time in Montana. I thought it was going to be more like Nicole Kidman's seventy three Questions, and I was going to be in

a virgin dress, like prancing around picking or something. But the reality is I've been in like man jeans and my grandfather's filannel fishing and it's iconic. But I've never felt hotter, and I wish there were more guys to here. But I found one positive twink from Connecticut who left the day I got here. It was really sad. Um. Hey, guys,

by the way, I'm back. I apologize. I know that that was the absolute worst thing to possibly happen, but it sounds like you handled it perfectly, perfectly fine, So thank you, thank you for the record. For the record, I'm I'm currently in western Utah. It's a hundred and twenty degrees and all of my electronics aren't well. I mean, I have a c This was loud and I didn't want to disrupt the audio quality. So it's just I'm just sitting in this thing baking right now. Just for

you guys though. Yeah, and Tommy, I understand. You gotta go. You said you were going fishing today. I went fishing yesterday. I have to go to archery right now. You really are living that montanaly Yes, thank you so much. I'll tend to photos somehow. I'll find a way of my arch exclude him over on Instagram or something like that. Hey, bye bye, it was nice to meet you. We're to uh still to finish out the rest of the show. Thanks for joining us. Go enjoy your archery, chilly guys.

What Branny tell us more about other projects that you might be working on. Um, well, I also I make music as well. I'm this music under my full name, which is Rainsford. So I have I just shot a music video of this past Sunday from my next single, it's called On, and then I have another single coming out the following month. Um, that's probably my favorite song we're ever written. Uh, we're shooting a video for at the end of the month that has some like really

cool people involved. Um. Yeah, I've just been working on music. Awesome. So you're telling me you act, you sing, what else do you do? Um? I am a cat enthusiast. My cat um and Foster kitttens too. I live with my sister and she's allergic to cats, and we just moved into like this a different apartment. So she's about to leave to Canada for like six months. I'm gonna probably pick up posting again once she's gone. So I don't toutu her cat here. Do you think it's your it's

your cat fandom that is the reason that you're single. Oh, I don't know. I think I'm just a dumbass. That's probably what I'm single. No, come on, I just don't understand Okay, you're this awesome actress. You're putting out incredible music. So I just I guess I'm trying to I'm trying to piece together the reasons as to why. I guess obviously you're busy with your career and everything, and maybe you just don't have time to day. Maybe you're just

not even interested in dating. Um, I have time and I'm interested. I don't know. I think I was in a cycle of kind of being jumping from one serious relationship with the next for like the majority of my twenties, and I think for the past year, I've actually it's been like a year since my last major breakup, and I think I definitely needed home to just actually foster my friendships and um have space on my own and kind of realized that I can be happy on my own.

And I for the longest time, people I would hear people say like, oh, but once you're single for a while, you're just you're gonna be so happy, You're gonna not want to be with anyone. I always like thought like, yeah, sure, you're a crazy person, but but now actually I am happy being alone, And I think that's kind of like raised my standards for what I'm looking for in relationship and I'm not just like so eager to slip into something because it seems comfortable and that is what I'm using.

So yeah, has the quarantine or the corona changed that perspective at all? I mean, obviously, like you said, you've been on dates and all those kinds of things, But has it shifted your mentality even more at all? Do you think? I think, more than anything, being in quarantine is really uh, like, usually my friend group, it's mostly like artists and actors, people that have jobbed through quire them to problem quite a bit. So having time where we can all hang used to be really few and

far between. So but now during quarantine, everybody's stuck in l A and it's been kind of amazing in that we've been able to actually like hang out all the time and like have game really wholesome like bonding experiences that I wouldn't have had otherwise. So I think that's been pretty great. I don't I don't know. I think I haven't really had like monumentous dating breakthroughs in this time, but um, but yeah, I mean I think more than one than any think, it's like it's just helped me

foster my friendships that I already had. Yeah, well, I do agree with what you said to It kind of allows you to be comfortable with being alone, which I think in turn, I don't want to use the word but like and I'm not saying that you'd like this at all, but like, the less desperate you are for a relationship, the more meaningful relationship becomes later on. And

I'm not saying you're desperate at all. I'm just saying the fact that you're like self sustained and independent and you're not like actively seeking out a relationship just for the sake of a relationship, that is, Like, that's a

good thing, I think totally. Yeah, I think having any kind of desperate energy, whether you're like I, I've definitely felt that way, almost more when I'm when I can when I've been in a relationship and I can feel that it's falling apart, and then it become desperate to try to hold it together because I don't want to

lose the love that I have. That. Yeah, like having like frantic, scared energy, I don't think it's a good place to be in when you're searching for something or when you're in something already, So yeah, I agree, that's

my mentality almost everything. Especially my girlfriend hates when I say that about marriage, But I'm like, if I like don't want to get married at all for my entire life, and then somehow I do end up getting married, it's like, Okay, well, you know that it's more meaningful because despite my best efforts to not let it happen, it's still is going to happen, which makes it happening for a good reason,

you know what I mean. So, like, in the case of dating new people, it's like, you don't really want to date anyone, or you do want to date people, but you're not like actively uh putting that, yeah, that desperate attitude out there, and because of that, you're going to I guess, attract the people that you want to attract more so. And I mean, hey, look, you're killing it.

You're on the freaking hit show Love in the Time of Corona and you've got some singles coming out, So I mean, I don't understand how guys aren't line it up. But besides all that stuff, I'm gonna let you go. Um where else can the listeners, like, can they find you on Instagram? On Twitter? What else are you. Are we able to get more rainy content. Yeah, you said it's social media. All my stuff's rainsford because it's like music related for much. But yeah, that's I'm I'm online.

We'll find you. I'm excited to binge the rest of Loving the Time of Corona. Um, and that's on free Form and all the episodes are out right. Uh, it's on free Form and hullo. That comes out Saturday and Sunday, two episodes each day. And actually I've only seen clips. I've even seen it, so you've seen one night. Okay, gosh, I've only seen the first episode. But yeah, I guess maybe it hasn't been out yet. Maybe what I saw as a screener. I don't know. Either way, I'm looking

forward to seeing the rest. To check it out on free Form. I think it premieres, yeah, I guess I'm reading. It premieres this weekend at eight pm, So be sure to check her out and Tommy out over there. And we'll be on the lookout for those singles. You said you're excited for the single let you're dropping next month. Yeah, definitely, so we'll ben look out for that as well. Um, all right, Well, Thank you so much for joining us. Thank you for handling some of those emails for me.

Sorry for dropping out, but I appreciate it. All right, We'll see you later, ye all right? Why am I so awkward? This is why we need Jared in here because he is much better interviewing guests than I am. I'm just incredibly awkward. Anyways, I'll do it for this week's episode of Help I Suck at Dating? Unless Mark or Eastern want to chirp in and say anything that I might have missed. What a Girl Wants? Oh, what

a Girl Wants? That's right, thanks Danielle. So What a Girl Wants has been our Thursday installment of just that. What a Girl Wants, We speak with some of the incredible women from Bachelor Nation and just kind of picked their brains a little bit. Because two guys talking for an hour per week about dating, it just doesn't really cut it and it only really shares one side of the story. So What a Girl Wants every Thursday. Who

do we have this week on What a Girl Wants? Danielle, Raven and Alexis I think, yeah, we're taking a little break this week, but we're coming back strong with Raven and Alexis were super excited um to talk to them. Yeah, Raven and Alexis are both great. I just talked to Raven actually the other day for the first time in a while. But you see, if you're doing well, um,

and they're incredibly insightful. Raven obviously is getting married to Adam from my season of The bachelorret and Alexis has been dating her boyfriend for the past couple of years, so it'll be interesting to hear from them, give some updates about the relationships and just hear kind of what's going on in their lives. And that is under help

I sucky dating. Wherever you get your podcast, but it's called What a Girl Wants, uh, And if you haven't checked out the last couple of episodes, we had the ferguson Twins, and we had Molly and Trista Sutter on last week's What a Girl Wants as well, and they're both fantastic. So check that out if you haven't already. And if you already have checked it out again, why not it's probably worth a re listen. So um. In the meantime, I promised next week I'll come back with Jared.

I promise this podcast will have a little bit more structure. I promise I won't be recording from a van where it's a hundred and twenty degrees and all of my electronics going overheat because because of that. Anyways, tune in next week where maybe we'll suck just a little bit less. Follow help by Suck at Dating on I Heart Radio or wherever you listen to podcast