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Paradise Temptations

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Sydney Lotuaco is back guest hosting with Dean! She has some inside info on the upcoming season of Bachelor in Paradise and she’s ready to dish on who might hook up with who! 


Find out the real reason you won’t see Sydney return to Paradise.


And Shaquille Urie from Temptation Island tells us how it feels to romantically pursue someone in a relationship.

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Hell I Suck At Dating with the Ungler and Jared Haven and I Heart Radio podcast. What is going on? Sucky daters? Welcome to an all new episode of Help I Suck At Dating, a very very special episode for you guys this week. I know I said that every week, but this week I actually mean it because just like old times, Jared is gone, and since I obviously cannot handle the show all by myself, we brought him the Big Guns and Sydney Lutwaco, our favorite guest co host,

is joining us live from I'm assuming Ohio. Yeah, we are still in Ohio. Were still going strong in Ohio live from Ohio. So if you guys haven't listened to Sydney's last episode, turn this one off. Put that one on because we checked in with Sydney and she was telling us all about how her and her boyfriend started living together right yes, in quarantine. So Sidney Phillison on what's going on over there? Because last time we talked to you, it was like, Hi to the pandemic, Hi

to Quarantine. You were like, I don't know if I want to do this, but I'm gonna do it anyways, and thanks for going. Well, where are you guys are right now, Um, we are good. I so I moved in with him as of August of last year, so it's been a while that we've lived together, so it's officially like going smoothly. Um. What's funny is I think we met officially a year ago in March. Technically we didn't meet in person until three months later, but we

had started talking in March. It's almost been a year technically if you can count that. So yeah, it's going well. We are through like the dating phase. Now we're officially living together and going through that dynamic. But it's it's been fun. I feel very adults and mature in my relationship, which is nice. It's been a good refresh. Yea. So

March is the one year universary. We started talking talking at the start of the pandemic, So if you count that, yes, But when we met in person I think in May, so May, I guess would be a year. I put it on Instagram in June, so we can count that day.

I put it on Instagram when it was I was going to ask you, yeah, well do you think you would have to have multiple celebrations of like the first day you guys started talking the first day you posted about it on Instagram, the first day you guys met in person, the first time you guys kissed, Like, what's the actual anniverse? I know, I'm always down for a celebration, but the only day I can specifically remember is the one from Instagram because I can scroll back through my

feed and figure it out. So that might be like our celebration day. But it's funny because some people are like, I'll wait a long time to show my relationship, especially if you've been on The Bachelor or some type of dating show. People like to wait to show off their relationship just in case because it's kind of hard to do with the fan base and just people having opinions

about your relationship. But I kind of, you know, just went with it and embraced it, and I was excited to share him with the world even though it was pretty new and it's been going well. Yeah, there's nothing worse than people speculate to get about a relationship, especially when that relationship is on the rocks. But it sounds like you kind of handled it well. So how are you guys doing since then? Since last time we talked then?

Because um, like I said, we had talked to you guys you were living together in Ohio, which you had never lived in Ohio before. I've never been to Aio before, that's right. And you guys had just moved in and if I remember correctly, you got you were like just going to go on vacation with his parents or something like that. It's like a lake. If I can't am I calling that correct correctly, You're you're calling like really key to deals with a little mixed up. But I'm

very impressed. Actually, Um, yeah, so we've had holidays together. I've spent many. I was just with his family on Easter. Um, he's met my parents. We did Thanksgiving together. We already were splitting holidays, which was kind of interesting. Um, but yeah, it's been going well. It's funny with relationships. I feel like you go through like the honeymoon phase and everything's like fun and happy, and we definitely have had that.

I mean it's not saying that's over anything, but once you move in and things start getting a little more serious than you start to learn like each other's ticks and and you know, how you mesh in a living situation, which always is super fun because it kind of brings out like, oh, what do I need to work on? What do I want him to work on, and like how we work together as a couple. So that's been a fun dynamic that we've been going through. But it's

all been really good. Well let's talk about that. You brought it up. What are some ticks that you've learned about him or maybe vice versa, what it takes us he learned about you? That obviously no deal breakers anything that, but like what has been like maybe a big hurdle. Yeah, I think it's a fun time too, because I love growth and in general and just getting to know someone deeper and then figuring out how you can be better for them, how they can be better for you. So yeah,

I feel like ticks. He's learned that I'm not the most organized person in the world, so we're working through that. Um yeah, I would say he's actually the clean one, which I guess is not what you normally think of with a male female relationship. But he's definitely the clean one. So I'm working to be more organized. For example, I tend to leave stuff around and we have a dog that we now share together. I mean he had him first,

but now he the dog is like my child. Um, so I try not to kill her on a regular basis because she will get into anything. She's an English bulldog. And just last week I had my backpack on the floor and she managed to find a random like it was like a power bar thing in my backpack and a ziploc bag and within four seconds she was in the room. She threw the zip block bag, had eaten it and was like living her best life and in

four seconds. So I was like, great, I think I might have just murdered her dog because all of the ingredients in it were like very toxic do dogs, very bad for dogs. Had a little panic attack, But you know, she's fine. She's a trooper. I mean before I've had I've been in the other room and she's licked like you know spackle where you put on like a hole in the wall. She's looked through that. So yeah, she gets into some stuff and keeps me on my toes.

But it's making me. It's forcing me to be more organized, which is probably a good thing where my growth and further the English bulldog that's like the big big bulldog right thick. She's a thick girl. She's like seventy pounds. She's pretty thick. Um, yeah, so she can handle a lot. But sometimes I'm like, did I murder our dog today? But so far we're doing Okay. What kind of text does Nick think? What kind of takes do you have

against Nick? I think it's just interesting for me because I brought everything here, like this is his home, this was his like routine, so it's kind of bringing a new person into that. So it's just him adjusting to like having someone else in his life, which has been fun. Um so just kind of learning like, Okay, I wake up at this time. He likes to wake up at this time, and just like figuring that out. And then sometimes he likes personal space and I never like personal space,

like to be on top of mind all times. So it's just like the fun little balance between those things. But nothing like negative. I think, like I said earlier, it's all growth. It's all it makes for everyone to be better people at the end of the day. As long as there's like he chooses his mouth open or leave the toilet seat up, come on, that's the thing. It is. Like I feel like if you think of

like male female, I'm that person. Like I'll leave something out like I'll not take on the trash like I'm I'm the male version in this situation, so it's not doing those things like he'll always put the seat down and like we'll remember to put toilet paperbacks. I'm like, oh, you're making me look bad. Man. Um. Yeah, it sounds a lot like mine Klin relationship. But you and I are the same, and then Kaylin and Nick are the clean and organized one exactly. So how does Kalyn deal

with that little dynamics? She deals with it very um patiently. I guess I could say, yeah, you have to have patience with us. Yeah, yeah, with us exactly. But you know what we lack in, like cleanliness or order, we make up for another thing. So I think it kind of has. Yeah. I feel like usually the creative types tend to be a little bit disorganized, but we are

all here for the greater good. I don't know. Yeah, I'm all gladly loote myself into the creative types, even though I don't know if that's necessarily true or not. So Okay, well, thanks, So do you guys live together now? And it's like official, Like it's not just like a it's not just like a warrantined thing anymore. Like you guys are living together right, Yeah, it's not out of like force anymore because of our situations or of choice now, which has been great. Yeah, so you're thriving in Ohio.

I'm trying to I think the thing I'm trying to work on now that we're like, we're good, Like things in the relationship are going well, like we're moving along at a great pace that we both like, I'm trying to now figure out like my own life here, if

that makes sense. Like I've always been of the camp of like having a relationship, having that together, but also having like my own life and things that I like to do, and things like having a community around me here because this is a new state for me, Like I don't have friends here before before, so it's kind

of like making those new friends. I've started teaching here and doing things that I would do in like l A where I used to live, or New York before, So just having a similar community of people like I can go to and like, so I have like my own things, so I'm not relying on him for everything I think is important. So that's what I've been working on lately. It's tricky, especially moving somewhere new, because like Calin have been in l A for little bit, and

I've been like similar to Nick being in Ohio. I've been in l A for a much longer time. So I've got like my friends, my interest, my you know, all my routines and all those things. Um and yeah, I can only imagine how tricky has to be to move somewhere else and like kind of like start life anew you know, yeah exactly, and like during a pandemic. So now things that are now things are opening. So I'm like, Okay, I'm gonna put myself out there and

make some friends. I think it's important because then I can feel like fulfilled and good in myself and then when I come to him, like we're both good instead of like me being like I need you for everything, if that makes sense, right, So, how how has the

friendmaking been going? Has it been easy out there? It's I mean, I feel like it's harder later in life to make friends quickly, just because like everyone's kind of in their own routines or you know, especially in a place like Ohio where everyone's kind of grown up together and has had some more backgrounds in that way. But I mean, I get along really well with his sister in law, so her and I are like besties, and

then from there I'm like branching out. So I think the easiest way for me to build relationships is by doing things people that like the same things as me. So for me, that's teaching, like doing fitness um and a lot of people that teach our dancers. So just people that I have know how similar backgrounds has been the best way for me to do that. I feel like it's way harder for girls. I feel like it's harder for girls to make friends. Uh as an adult as well. Do you agree or disagree? I feel like

it can be hard either way. But yeah, if you have like a girl group that's like strong and they've been together since high school and they're like rite or die, it's really hard for the new girl to come into that. But I'm so The reason I say that is because in my experience, I like some of my really good guy friends I've met, you know, twenty five and older and even in the past like a year or two,

and I think guys are just so simple. We're like, oh, you like this guy, dive, I like this guy dive sick. Let's be best friends and Scott all the time together, like and girls. I just I don't know. I think there's like a little bit more of like a like an interview process. Yeah, there's definitely a process of like do we want to let her in? Could we borrow close from her? Could we hang out with her and

have drinks? Could we tell her secret? So like there's a lot of like a review process that a woman is going to go through, which I think isn't more intensive, but I think that lends to a stronger relationship once you make it through that filter, if that makes sense, rather than like the superficial surface level of friendships that guys have for the like just jumping off buildings and stuff rather beers. Yeah. So, so now that you and Nick are fully moved in together, what's next? Do you think?

I know that now is everyone's like, okay, when you're getting engaged, when are you doing this? Um? I think people always ask that question, and we have been open with those conversations. Like I don't think I would have willingly or not willingly or just like openly just jumped

into moving in so quickly and changing my life. And I mean there was circumstances that led to that, But I think because I knew like we were solid and that we had talked about potentially being serious in the future and like engagements and things like that, Like we've had those discussions. So I think eventually that's definitely going to happen. Um, it's just a matter of like when. And but as far as like where we're at now,

we're at a good spot. Definitely. Yeah. I feel like I feel like last time we talked on this podcast too, you were kind of worth saying the same thing where it's like it's kind of expected at this point. Yeah. I mean I don't know if that's like an age thing or it's just like I wanted to go into something that I knew could end up being serious. Um, But we both have been It's been easy to talk about it, Like sometimes with girls are like wanting to know that and don't ask or are free to ask. What.

We kind of talked about that from the very beginning, if that made sense, um, So there was never any like, oh my god, what what could we get married? I mean I spend all of his time, all my time with his family and like his brother is Mary and she has this like adorable child that we hang out with all time, so we see like the family life and like down the road what could be happening, and

it's not scary to either of us. So well, so you bring up an interesting point that I think would be good for the listeners to kind of dive in on a little bit um you said something or all along lines of sometimes girls are scared to like ask those questions, right, So what kind of advice would you have for someone that maybe is in a similar ish situation, maybe like a less stable one than you, but like someone that wants to ask the question, but it is

fearful of it, you know, Like what kind of advice? Yeah, that person? And I feel like I get this question a lot, like when either if it's like someone trying to figure out if we're not dating other people or someone trying to figure out if this is going to be something serious down the road. I'm just always at the camp of just having the conversation because I like to know versus just like waiting around and wondering and getting deeper into my feelings with someone or getting more

invested and they're not actually there. I would just rather know and that's kind of like ripping off the bandit and having a really hard conversation. But I think like when you have those conversations directly towards the beginning, the easier it is for you because you're not going to be invested. Your feelings won't be as hurt as they would be like down the road when you find out how they're still seeing other people or they're not wanting to have like marriage and family and all that stuff.

So I liked how those conversations earlier on UM. But that's me. It's kind of like the ultimate form of procrastination where you're setting yourself up for failure. It's the longer you wait to ask the question. Yeah, because if someone's not in it for the long haul, I don't think that you can necessarily change that. UM And I mean they're going to pretty much know that from the jump. I would feel like, depending on how you get into

the relationship, is it Nick younger than you? He's a month younger than me, so let's not rub it in. I thought for some reason he was like five years younger than you, But a month is a month? Is it would be wild? Yeah? No, I'm an old soul but not that much, right right, right? So okay, gotcha. So there's talks of it, but you're no rush, but hoping for a marriage kids a white picket fence down the line. Yeah, I mean that's always been in the back of my mind. But yeah, I think we're in

a good place. I mean, we've known each other for a year and they're still pretty solid. Um. I think if marriage and all that comes into play, it's going to be like, I need to talk to my parents about that, and then he's he's of like the traditional route where he would want to ask my parents for permission and all that stuff, So those types of conversations would have to happen first. But we're in a good spot.

I feel like those Midwest born and bred boys too, like they kind of they're on more of a traditional timeline rather than the coastal boys, the New York California kids. I'm going to be single until forty yeah, and I I mean I've dated those guys and that's fine for them, but like it's just something I knew I wanted and needed and those were kind of my boundaries and I led me to this person that was on the same

page as me. So that's why I like to have the conversations kind of early, because I know that's what I'm looking for. I love like a cool girl and like someone that can like date around. That's great if you can handle that. I just know I can't handle that. So I was just very clear with that from the beginning. Nice,

I respect it. Um, All right, let's let's just here's a little tiny bit because there was this US Weekly article that I read recently where you share that you felt the pressure of the entire Asian race filming The Bachelor, and I was wondering, if you, if you're up for it, would you mind sharing a little bit more about that. Yeah. Um, I tend to put a lot of pressure on myself and just naturally as a person. UM, and I'm pretty

aware of my surroundings. So with me and what they were talking about with that article, it was just like, oh, because race has been such a talked about thing this especially this past season and around the Bachelor franchise, and I think they've made like huge shrides since I was on the show with um casting and how they represent more diverse cast members as far as them showing them. And that's a different story but for me personally, on my season, I was one of two Asian women. I'm

half Asian, I'm path Filipino. Um So there was me and another girl and she went home the first night, and I was like looking around and just not seeing anyone else really that looked like me. And I was like, oh, interesting, um so does that mean I am now this girl for this season? Because if you think about it, they cast, they cast the season like they know who they're putting on the show. So it's like I have now a role to play. Whether that's true or not, that's just

what I put on myself just knowing that. I mean, looking around the room, I was like, Okay, well, I'm now the only girl that's going to represent that. How do I want to show that? And for me, that was trying to do the best example of like what an Asian American woman is. And for me, that was just being like myself. And maybe that meant being a little more reserved with how I represented myself or how my conversations went on the show. I don't know for sure.

There's a lot of factors that go into that, but I definitely have that in the back of my mind throughout my time on the show. Was that something that you ever even considered before you were on either show or is it something that you didn't even realize was a thing until you were like thrusting the environment. I mean, I'm always aware of it. Like, for example, I grew up as a dancer and I would go to auditions, and if I go to a casting, it's usually for

their looking for an ethnic woman. I would go to a casting and there would be a room full of Asian women. It was just me and like thirty other Asian woman, So like usually you're hired for a role. So I'm just kind of used to that life. So me going on a show, I know that, like, oh they needed another Asian girl, so I'm going to be that role. Um, whether that's a good thing or a bad thing, I've just always been aware of it, and I just I knew this was like my one shot

to represent what that is. So I tried to do my very best at showing like what I think is a good example of an Asian woman on on the franchise, which can lend to a lot of pressure, but I tend to do that to myself. I can only imagine how much pressure there there has to be in that situation. As a white man, I like to obviously never have to deal with that, so I can I like, I can't even put myself in those shoes. But I guess question for you, then, why do you think there is

such a lack of diversity on the show? Because at the end of the day, there's no bad things from being more inclusive and showing more diversity, right, Like only good things can come from that, So why do you think there is such a lack of it. I think it's like a fear of shifts and how that's going to affect the audience and how that's going to affect a paycheck at the end of the day, if you

think about it. I mean, ratings and all of that are definitely something I'm sure the show takes into accounts. I think they even look at like who is getting the most followed from the show on Instagram, which is like you think, like not doesn't matter, but I think you're very aware of that for who they're choosing to be the lead, or like who they're choosing to bring back. I mean, I think all of that goes into account

which people don't always think about. But because they see all the diverse members of the cast aren't getting the same following, They're not getting the same amount of recognition. Maybe they're like, oh, we don't want to keep pushing them on our audience if they're not going to receive them.

But that's just unfortunate because if you think about like the younger girl at home who is a person of color, and they're looking at the show and they love it, but they don't see themselves on the show falling in love are getting that end goal or the rise, whatever you wanna call it. At the end, they're like, oh, why can't I have that? Like I don't see myself on TV falling love, I don't see myself doing those

things are succeeding on a show. So that's hard to think about, Like you're you're affecting other people in that way, whether you realize it or not, it does have an effect. Yeah, And I can imagine it's gotta be a slippery slope for like for The Bachelor, for instance, like twenty years

ago or whenever the show started. I'm sure they never intended to be so like exclusively you know, for lack of a better term, white, But at the end of the day, Like if their audience is white and they respond more possibly to the white contestants, then through the years they're they're skewing more and more white. Whether that's true or not, I have no idea, but but yeah, I can only imagine. Um. I mean, it's it's just

it's got to be. It's it's it's weird for me because as like a white guy, I've never really had to deal with any of that stuff. So even while I was on the show, like I didn't even notice it. We had like a we had a more heavily um black cast and normal and there was like everyone was like, yeah, like we're we're super diverse, and I was like, yeah, this is awesome. I never really thought anything of it.

And then it kind of like moved away from that, and especially like the Asian representation has always been, from my understanding, like one or two contestants per season tops, um, and then they have a couple of people of color, and then there's like the traditional core white contestants, and it's just like there's I don't know, it seems so flawed in my opinion, Yeah, exactly. I mean they cast them now so they're like showing like, oh, we did it,

we cast it. But now it's like how it's important to represent that then, Like I think there's a an account called Bachelor Data and it takes into like the numbers of like each person's screen time, and just like the skewed of like the white screen time was just like so high, which is like that has a lot of factors. That also depends on the relationship that's happening

between the lead. So for my instance, like I know, I wasn't shown a lot because I didn't have a strong connection with the lead, So I can't necessarily blame that on anything. But besides that, but when you have like extremely sorry diverse cast and it's still skewed, it's it's still um, there's it's showing. That's no problem. You can take it one step further and say screw production for casting a lead that would never be interested in anyone other than a white girl, you know what I mean.

Like it's like you can still kind of go up and I think you can even go up the ranks and be like, Okay, well, there's probably not much diversity in like the casting department. There's not much diversity in the you know, the studio heads like all that kind

of stuff. So I think that diversity has to kind of start at the top and work its way down because if it's white people casting people of color and Asian Americans and all these people, it's like, Okay, well, it's still a white person casting these people for a white person that probably only likes white people. So it's just like it runs. It runs really deep, and I

think we're at the start of the changes. But I think because of that, it's going to take time to unravel all of the things in order for us to get there. But we're definitely at the beginning now. I'm interested to see where they're going to go with it. Yeah, well so they did go somewhere with They went with Katie as one bachelor and then Michelle and another bachelor at UM. So I mean, that's that's good to see there's more representation in the leads. What's your what are

your thoughts on either of them? Have you met either of them or ever talked to either of them or anything like that. I've not met or talked to either of them. I think they're both awesome. I loved that they chose both of them. I loved Michelle. I love that she was like a teacher and just seems so down to earth and can relate to kids and all the things. And I love Katie too. I thought she was hilarious, like with her dildo the whole season. I thought she was awesome. Um, I think it'll be fun.

I think it'll be an interesting season. I always love a Bachelorette season. It's interesting how they're doing like so much at once. There's going to be like a bachelotte season and then Paradise and then Michelle's is like a lot um. But I'm excited. I'm also interesting too, interested to see that dynamic between like Caitlin and take shipping the host of Katie season, and how Bachelor Nation kind of takes that. Well, It'll just be an interesting thing

to watch. Like, I love both of them, and I think they'll be greatest host is and it will be a nice dynamic with them both being bachelorette's from past seasons being able to like talk to Katie and like hopefully help her through because with Chris, like he he's seeing other people's emogency, understands them, but he hasn't felt

them himself. So it'll I think it'll lend to like deeper conversations than more like help from the host, and they might we might see them more than we did Chris on the other Season's Yeah, I can see that for sure. Are you bummed about not being in consideration for going back to Bash in Paradise? You're satisfying. I mean, do you want to go back to my language? There's no way. I mean you you just think about, like, remember how you felt during that time? No thanks, no thing.

It's like perpetual anxiety exactly. Really wants to feel that exactly. And like, I wish everyone all the best that's going. I think they're gonna have a ton of fun. I think it's going to be a fun thing to watch because there's so many seasons that they're going to get to choose from, and I'm sure they're going to use that there to their advantage and really making an interesting season. Um. I just I wish them luck. I don't wish to trade place this with any one of them. I'm pretty

happy where I'm at. But um I also will say, like me being on those shows, I did learn a lot and it got to me to where I am. But do I need to go back and relearn those lessons. I'm okay, right, Yeah, So what advice would you have for a contestant that I'd be going down to Paradise for the first time. Yes, here's my advice. I would say, break the rules and actually talk to people beforehand and actually slide into people's dms and get to know them.

I think, like knowing that other people did that, I was like, I am behind and I don't like to feel like I'm playing catch up. I think use your whatever you can to your advantage because it's going to be a tough season because there's so many people and so many options, and it's going to be a mess um. So if you can like lock into someone quickly, do that, Like if you can be a Dylan with Hannah and just like know from the jump, that's the way to

do it because and you're just saw. I mean they mess with him with like a little bit, but like they got there. So yeah, try not to get into a love triangle. I'm sure Dan you can tell everyone about that, but the triangles and other than the one line, grab someone's hand and run into the sunset. Yeah, I like that you said break the rules. That seems so Unsidney, like I know, but I wish I had because I was I was so behind because I didn't break the rules.

I know, I will say I I think breaking the rules can serve you for a different reason though, I think breaking the rules is important because it kind of like gives you a sense of this person and what they're going to be like in the real world, you know, like when you're on that beach, like nothing is the same as it's going to be once you go home. And so by like reaching out maybe a little beforehand, seeing how they like respond like you know sometimes like

responding timely, it's kind of important. So it's like seeing how they react on their phone and um, their punctuation, their grammar could be pretty important to you too. So that's true if you're a bad text or it's just going to be over as soon as you get out, and you won't necessarily know that unless you've talked before.

That's a very good point exactly. And I always talk about there's like a severe misrepresentation of people's selves on the show too, Like we always put our best foot for ord when we go on the show, like look at me, these are the things of these are my accomplishments, like this is how cool I am, how hot I am, how smart, dam blah blah blah blah blah. But in reality, like time, it's not true because we're just like trying

to put our best selves out there. So by getting getting ahead of it, you might be saving yourself a little bit of heartache by not having to deal with any of that. So I get ahead, and you already have the confidence like, oh, that person was interested in me, they responded to me, or they reached out to me, Like, you already have that in the back of your mind, so you can go into the beach with a little bit more confidence where I was just like a deer

in headlights. I felt like going onto the beach. Do you think there's any people from Batchean Para Day Season six, our season that are going to be returning to the beach for season seven? I mean, Blake keeps hanging out with people like he was just with all of the new crew last week, and I'm like, Blake, please don't do that to yourself. Um, but I feel like he might be going back. I feel like I think he's

going back. Yeah, Like, and I hope that's not like him trying to redeem himself, because I don't think that's ever possible. I don't know, but I can go back. I could see a lot of them kind of wanting to go back, maybe, like because I think like Christina is still single, might might still be single. Mike. Yeah, he hated Paradise, so it'll be interesting to see if

he does go back. But he might, you know, because I mean, you have a year off the show or two years and you're like, it doesn't seem so bad, but then you get back there and you're like, what did I do? I'm in case in point. I took te years off and I was like, I'm never going back again, and then te years later, I was like, screw it. Why not? So I don't know. You could see couple it did work out. I got very very lucky. Um, it did work out. But I could see you. I

could see a couple of those people going back. Um, I hope, you know, it's always nice to see a familiar face on TV kind of like keeps interested. So I hope, for for our sake, for entertainment value, that they go back. But yeah, so we can watch with popcorn. Yeah exactly, all right, We're gonna take a quick break and then we're gonna get into our guests, Shaquille Uri. I hope I'm saying his name correctly, but he is from Temptation Island. Uh. They're only season three two, so

they've been they've been killing it. I remember, Well, we'll get to this later, but yes, stick around through the break. We'll have Shaquille on here pretty soon. All right, everybody, welcome back to help I suck at dating, And as promised, we have Shaquille. You're re joining us all the way from Denver, Colorado, the best state in the world. Shaquille, how are you. I'm good. I'm good. How are you guys? We're good, We're good. Thanks for joining us. So this

is Sidney. She is guest co hosting with us today and we obviously are big fans of Temptation Island. Before we get into it, though, I have a question for you. Do you know any previous season's cash members? I do not, honestly, full displosure, I did not watch any previous seasons before going into the house, so I'm still trying to catch up on what happened before. Okay, got you because I'm I'm well I know a couple of them, I guess, so I I just it's always funny to see if

there's any like mutual friends. They think that. But you'll tell us a little bit more about how you got on the show. So Temptation Island for those is it still filmed in Hawaii? Yeah, I was in Maoi yah, So tell us how you got there because I'm curious. So, yeah, it was actually funny. I just said, moved out to Denver, um and my phone rang from like Burbank, California, and the sweetest girls started talking to me, and she was like,

you know, I've you ever heard of Temptation Island? And I immediately hung up on her first because I'm like, no, you know one of these dating like shows. I don't really know, Like no, probably not. And then she kept calling me. She was persistent, so I heard her out after I got out of the gym, and I thought the idea of this sounded pretty fun. So like two months later, I was in Mauie. So you moved, You moved to Denver? Where do you? Where'd you live before Denver? So?

I lived in Maine, southern Maine. Yeah, New England. I'm a new England boy, nice nice. I wish he was here because he also is a new Englander. I saw, I saw he had he loves this Tom Brady, so I kind of figured. I kind of figured, oh, dude to a fault. I'm sure you're a big pretty fans too. But it's funny how that works too, because a lot of times. So how I got on The Bachelor very similar story. It was like, at first I was like why I would ever do that? And then eventually I

was like, you know what, why not? Why not just go for it? So? How how was your time on Temptation? Do you regret it all? Are you happy with it? Yeah? It was. It was an emotional road coaster, I think, um, but I definitely don't regret anything. I was really happy that I kind of went for it. But it was definitely a once in a lifetime experience. I think for sure, from going on, do you wish you had watched it beforehand so you had a better idea of how it

was going to go? Or do you like that you just kind of didn't know what was going to happen once you got there. I was pretty glad I didn't watch any of it, to be honest, I thought if I did, I was gonna psyck myself out a little bit. And I just wanted to go in one hand to percent myself and just kind of see what happened. Um, And then like it left a lot of like surprises around the corner, like eliminations and things like that. I had no clue that was even the thing. So it

was it was excite not watching it for sure. And then how has it been watching it back? Like seeing yourself on TV? Is it weird? Um? There hasn't been a single episode that felt normal. I guess, like ten minutes leading up to a starting there's always like this spike of like anxiousness and then you just kind of start rolling with it and you're like, all right, let's

see what they made me look like this week? Uh well, and so when you got there too, you had a connection with Aaron, right, And so how did that all? Kind of because she because Aaron came down with her boyfriend, but you guys kind of hit it off. So tell us about that a little bit. Yeah, So I mean her coming there like it was for her to kind of explore she how you know, can make a better connection with somebody else or if she was more compatible

with somebody else. So yeah, I mean basically the day we first met, we just sort of kind of clicked a little bit. Um. We had a lot of the same humor, UM, a lot of the same interest UM. And she has very very strong personalities you can see from watching the show, and I do as well. So we just kind of hit it off from day one, and things sort of just kind of went Yeah, was Aaron the only one that you were interested in the house or where did you have other people that you

could have been interested in? Um, she was the only one I was interested in, I would say. Um. There were definitely moments of frustration where I was like, you know, man, maybe I should you know, maybe talk to somebody else or get to know somebody else a little bit. But like even as soon as that moment came in my head, it was out just as fast, and I was like, you know, she's she's she's it from me on the island. So can you talk to me about the dynamic of

dating someone that's already in a relationship. Was that did that lend to like having them be a little bit more attractive to you or like what was that like knowing that they were already in a somewhat committed relationship. Oh yeah, so full disclosure. My last couple of relationships were very similar situations where they were they were seeing somebody and I was kind of, uh, you know, sparked an interest in him, and I kind of just played the long game and kind of waited for for my

moment there. So I was kind of coming into a familiar situation. But for me, I never really thought about the boyfriend aspect. I never really like, we didn't talk about it a lot when we had a conversation, so it was kind of in the back of my mind. I didn't really think about it too much. I was just trying to get to know her as a single individual person. And then you know, if I was good enough for her to leave the island with the great

and if not, you know, I did what I could. Well, that situation, too, has to be so interesting because yes, she has a boyfriend, but the fact that she's even there kind of lends to the fact that she probably is interested in seeing other people, you know, exactly exactly, Yeah, I mean a lot of them. None of them wanted to admit that. Honestly, none of the girls wanted to be like, you know, I'm here to explore other options. When it's written in the description that's exactly what you're

there for. But they all wanted to play it off kind of like they were there to solely work on their relationships. And it was like, I'm not sure you quite understand what we're Yeah, and then you started get like a little press raed probably too, You're like, like, what am I doing here? Yeah? Exactly exactly like Mark says in the intro, you know you are no longer you know, you're single from this point out, But I don't think a lot of people quite understood that. Yeah,

So it has that ever happened to you? Have you ever been attracted or like pined after someone that was in a relationship, not intentionally, like if they were flirting with me and whatever, and then I found out later that they had a girlfriend. That's when I would back off, but first if I hadn't known. Yeah, so it's kind of happened, but not like I went after it, have you, Dane, It's never like gone progress very far? Yeah, Um, I don't think. So. There was this girl that I really

liked for a long time. I had a boyfriend. But as you know, people do, they just kind of fizzled. I think we were both trying to be super respectful and all that kind of stuff. The long game has never been my strong suit much. Does she killed credit, So props to you for that one. Yeah, but it's weird. It's funny how like seeing someone in a relationship it like kind of like it's like the forbidden fruit, you know, it kind of like gives you this weird little attraction

towards them. I feel like, yeah, I agree, Um, so what's so? Then you got voted off the island though? Right? I did? I did? She booted me? She booted you? And how does that work? So it's it's like a voting system. So the girls all kind of got together and voted that that Air needed to focus more on herself than have you there as a quote unquote distraction. Right, that's that thing a little bit? Are you kind of like,

well come on? Yeah? It was tough. Like leading up to it, I kind of had an inkling like, you know, she might we're getting really close, she might boot me out of here, because I saw her play it safe in some of her day selections. So I was like Okay, if that's kind of a trending habit for her, she's definitely gonna get rid of me if she wants to

play it safe. So I kind of saw it coming a little bit, but it definitely was very hard not to be like, um, this is what I'm here for, you know what I mean, Like you're kicking me off, but I'm doing my job, and it was it was tough. Um that I feel like if she kind of gave in of the process a little bit more than, you know, it could have grow grew grew a lot more than it did. Um. But you know, how about how about Corey? Because Corey was Aaron's boyfriend that she went there with.

So how was your relationship with him? Was that like weird or awkward at all? Uh? Yeah, I mean I saw him at a late at the at the reunion with me from the reunion actually, so I've I saw him and I had to sit next to him and uh out, yeah that was super fun. And uh, I mean we're very different personality types, so like he just

is really quiet and not very opinionated. So I was just you know, there was I don't get much from him when I'm around and to be honest, I wonder if that's because maybe he like has a vendetta against you or something, or if he just maybe it's generally like that. Yeah, I mean, watching the show bath, I think it's just how he is on top of the vendetta park. So yeah, it's a little probably a mixture of bull in that aspect. How was it for you watching then Aaron after you left and now being off

the show? Do you still have feelings for her or do you have anything that you wish you could tell her or maybe that you told her on the finale or the reunion? Um, I mean, why dot you get back now that I'm not there? I mean it's you know, nothing's like kind of surprising to me. Um. I think

she's very very focused on leaving with Corey. So I think that's what her mean, Like, you know, she's kind of like isolated herself, you know, just kind of having fun now, I think, and I think that's what you wanted. I gotta getting me out of there was taking away the distraction and the emotional aspect of it, because it looks like she's just there to have fun now. Um. As far as the second part of that question, we've had like some conversations. Uh, she kind of knows where

I stand. And you know that I thought, even off the island, if we were never put in that situation and I ran into her outside of the whole process, it's that she would have been somebody I was very interested in the same way. Um. But I and she just has some things to figure out before we can kind of explore that anymore. We'll tell us about these

conversations a little bit. What are you guys talking about? Honestly, just like a lot of it is kind of put in that situation, you never know what's real and what's kind of fake. Um. But we've had a lot of conversations about kind of expressing to each other genuinely, like you know, what we built or connected there was genuine um that it was something that wasn't just gonna stop because the cameras were off. Um. And just kind of like where she's at mentally and emotionally after filming it,

after the reunion and everything, um. And then a lot of just friendly conversations like the same way we banned are on the island, it's the same way we're talking in life now. So I'm interested if say a different world where you, maybe you and Aaron were dating outside of this, would you then bring her to Temptation Island? Would you want to go through that process with her? Or would you kind of stay out of that whole situation.

I would avoid bad at all costs. Like, there is no way I would bring her or anybody else on

that on that show in that kind of environment. That's tough. Um, I'm not crazy, So there's no I was gonna say, isn't it so frustrating that like that, Sometimes the ones you get along with the best, like Aaron in this case, is like the one that you're not allowed to like date or be with all right, And that makes it so much worse too, because you're like we have so much like synergy and like we connect so well and we have so much fun together, but we can't be together.

Like it's it's it's definitely tough and it's funny. I never, I never. When I went there, I did not expect It's like you got four girls and twelve guys, Like, what are the odds you're really gonna like find somebody like that? And like first day I was like, this is gonna be this is gonna be a ride because I can already tell we were going to hit it off. So let's say Aaron wasn't there, then was there anyone else that you might have found like interest in? M

hm Um. I think Kristen is a gorgeous girl. Um. The only issue with that situation is she's very very invested in in her current relationship, So I know that would have been a losing battle for sure. Um. And then Chelsea and I got really really close. Actually, Um, she's a little bit older than I am, so like I'm not sure she would kind of come down to

my age group, but we did get really really close. Um, so there could have been potential there if Aaron was Yeah, I get so beyond that though, Like obviously hindsight, what would you change if you go back and do it over again? You think, like any regrets anything where, like maybe it's something with Aaron where maybe like you could have could have said something to like change your mind or something like that. You know. Yeah, I mean I

feel like I've I've been asked that question so many times. Honestly, I don't think I would have done anything different, Like I feel like I did exactly. I approached it the way I wanted to going into it. Um, you know, a lot of people might have thought I was very like, you know, straightforward. It came on very strong, but you know, you got you got a couple of weeks to try to get this girl to question her relationship and you

that you're the better option. So coming on strong, it's kind of your only way to go, And I think I think it worked out. I mean, I don't know, you know, I replayed the last couple of days in my head and I'm like, I don't know what I could have done differently to get her to keep me around. But I think I kind of dug my brave when we started getting close since day one. So what's it

kind of been like dating now after the show? Like now you're back in Denver, the show is like you you've obviously like been on TV, Like has anything changed or they're our girls like recognizing you already think that I've had a handful of people like downtown things like that recognized me super weird, Like coming from Vermont, like the smallest state, you know, the middle of nowhere is

definitely weird and weird experience to have. Um, dating wise, I mean, I mean keeping relatively to myself, to be honest, Um, I think the show honestly taught me a lot how to legitimately date, though in a weird way, because you don't have those outside distractions. You don't have four girls trying to take you on a date at one time, Like you're so focused on this one person, um, and you're actually forced that to get to know them because

they are in a relationship. So you're not gonna, you know, you're not gonna go on a date and then immediately end up in bed with them or anything like that. So it definitely taught me a lot now, but in the outside world, to to take my time and actually get to genuinely connect with somebody rather than kind of

just like chasing girls all over the place. Um. So yeah, you know, a couple of dates here and there, but it just wasn't what I was kind of looking for, and the show kind of taught me that in a weird going. Would you ever go back on the show and try again with a different situation or are you going back into the real world and trying to find it there. Um, that's a great question, because I would love to just find it in the real world. That'd

be great ideal scenario. But I do like, I just like the position the show puts you in because you don't have to do with the daily struggles of dating and the real world. You're just you're there and you're actually in the moment, like you can appreciate every step of the way. Um, So I love like the position it fluts you in. But I probably I just kind of like my freedom and my privacy a little bit. I don't feel that. So she goes something we've been asking a lot of people that come on the podcast

is what is your worst first date story? And it doesn't have to be on TV or anything that just like real world first date story that maybe didn't go quite as planned. Oh man, that I haven't had any disasters yet, so I would honestly have to say I went out to eating with this girl, Like we went to dinner, it was nice, and she wanted to go

to a party. Um it was like back in college and we were at the party together and she got blacked out passed out of the party and of course we're all, you know, maybe or maybe not age to be drinking, so of course she this girl is getting sick and passed out. So everybody leaves. This is the first time I've met this girl, So everybody bails leaves the party, and it kind of leaves me there with her, and you know, being raised as a stand up and being I was like, you know, I'm not gonna bail

on this girl. So I ended up caring her like two miles down a dirt road until we eventually found a car coming along the way and I took her to the hospital. Uh but yeah, that was the first That was our first day, so that was probably the worst. That she kind of thanked me for taking care of her that there was definitely not a second day. It just kind of seemed like, how do you kind of

go from there? A little bit um, so I was like, you know, I wish you the best, and we were friends for years after that, but there was definitely a second no coming back from that one, that's for sure. So so now that Temptation Island, at least for you, is over, we kind of talked about a little bit, well what's next are you gonna because you're personal training in Denver right now? Right? Yes, yes, yes, So what's the next move for you? You think, just just the

life move Life Move. I mean, honestly, for me, I would love to do another project like this to another TV show. Um. I think it would be a lot of fun. Maybe different circumstances, but I think it would be fun. Something a little more competitive. Um. But yeah, I mean as far as just training here, I really want to like kind of build upon my own business with that, um and then at some point opened my

own location. Would be like a dream of mine to do. UM. But yeah, that's probably probably kind of the next step for me. Should we get him? Yeah, we should. Yeah, messaging about that maybe. Wait you said they message you about it. Yeah. I've had just so many people just being especially after I got eliminated. Yeah, you need to do this, you need to do this, And I'm like, man, that's how have you seen that? I've you seen who they announced as the next bachelor at because there's two

of them this time, is there? I sort of saw I think I sort of briefly saw it, but you'll have to refresh me because I I sort of saw something that there was two of them, but I wasn't quite sure. Well, I guess I guess. Let's put the energy out there. If someone came to you and said, hey, Shaquille, we want you on the next season The Bachelor. At would you sounds like you'd be open to the opportunity, and I would. I would pretend like I needed to think about it for a second again. Yeah, but yeah,

I think I think be an incredible experience. Yeah, I think that would be great. I think you crushed on The Bachelor. I think. Okay, let's so let's put it out there. Then. If there's a Bachelor producer listening to this podcast right now, Shaquille your he hit him up. He's gonna crush it for you. Competitive, which is what we like. No, I hate losing is just not my vocabulator. I love it. I love it. Let's will it into existence. Well, Shaquille, thank you so much for joining us. You're the man.

We hope to see you on our TV screens very very June. Um. For the listeners out there that want to see more of you, where can they find you? Yeah? On Twitter? Anything like that. Yeah. So my Instagram is uh, it's shock eary so I t S. My name s j Q, you r I E And that is the same handle on Twitter as well. Sweet, You're the man. I can't wait to see you on the next season Bachelorrett, Yeah,

hopefully it goes a little bit better at that time. Yeah. Well, it sounds like you had a good experience, whether you came out of it with a girlfriend or not. You know, it sounds like you learn a little bit about yourself, which I think is is all we can really ask it ourselves. But um, for Temptation Island fans, we still have a couple more episodes and then the reunion, So we'll see you on the reunion. Uh, and it's temptation

is it's Monday's right is when it airs Tuesdays, Tuesday, Tuesdays, Tuesdays. Sweet. We'll see you on our TV screens in a couple of weeks on on the premiere I'm sorry, on the on the reunion show, and then we'll look to seeing you again, hopefully later in the year. I hope, So, I hope. So all right, Well, hey you're the man than for joining us. We appreciate it. Appreciate all right, welcome back to help I suck at dating. Big thank

you to Shakill for joining us. Um, But Sydney, we have a very very special what a girl wants coming up with you here? Pretty soon. But beyond, I want to talk about your podcast. I want you to. I want you to tell suck Army more about your podcast because we share the love here, right. I want and to listen. I expect you to reciprocate here. So on your podcast you have to be plugging help by second dating too. But tell us more about yours, tell us

more about what's going on over there. Yeah, Dan, I'm gonna bring you on and really girly. Um yeah, so I would gladly come on. I don't know if I'm doing the standard, but um, I have a podcast called Something to Share. Um. This is my third generation of a podcast that we've made it to where it's at now, and I'm actually super excited to the place it's become. Mostly, I wanted to start one because I've always enjoyed podcasts, whether it's been me like helping hosts like this one,

or me listening to them on my own. It was always like the thing that got me through tough times or the thing I needed to hear, something that I

needed to push myself forward or learn something. So I always turned to podcast and so for me making one, I wanted to do that for other people and share behind the scenes of like really fun people like from reality TV or CEOs, entrepreneurs, people that are just like successful and kind of sharing how they got there in order for other people to see like, oh she got there like that, I could do it too, just kind of sharing more So, that's my podcast. I have um

episodes every Wednesday. We've had fun people from bach Shron, a lot of cool guests. You've never had me on. We haven't, and we're going to do that. I've had a lot of people on, but Dean, I think that would be a special episode, So let's let's make that happen. Well, I mean, I don't want to force myself onto your podcast crossover episode, we must, uh? And then what about

the what a Girl Wants one that you're hosting as well. Yes, so I'm very curious as for all the people that are still dating in the world and are going to this post pandemic dating space, what that's going to be like close For me, the pandemic was actually really great for me to get out there in the dating world and to meet my person and to learn about him very differently, Like virtually we got to start dating and then we eventually became really great in person versus where

like where we're going now. I mean, I feel like people might have forgotten how to socialize a little bit and just kind of going through that new dynamic of post pandemic and like what it's going to be like. So I'm talking to an expert on dating and like I'm gonna see what the trends are going to be and give advice as far as like how we can proceed into this next dating space. So what we need is all of your questions on dating in the future and anything that you got, so send them in. What

what's your take on the vaccine? Have you gotten yet? Actually got it yesterday? Yesterday my arm was on fire? But which one did you get? I got the Fiser vaccine? Yes, you got the first dost then yeah, yeah, so I don't get the second doest for a while, and it still hurts the first one because I heard the first one is like manageable and then the second one is really it's just like a flu shot arm situation where

it's like hurts to lift your arm up. It's like the needle is really what's your other than that, I've been fine, Um, I feel good today I've just been drinking a lot of water and yeah, no, no crazy side effects. I'm not looking forward to if I have them for the second one. But we'll see. Yeah, are you getting empty? Yeah, immediately following this podcast that we're gonna go at the Johnson and Johnson. That's the one I wanted because I wanted done is always right. I

want to be, but I didn't. I'm a little I'm a little concerned. I have a pretty important golf tournament tomorrow. I've heard. I've heard that Johnson and Johnson kind of knocks you out pretty hard because it's everything in the one. Yeah, just like sing at all, um, I would say, just drink a lot of water, a lot of water, make sure sure to hydrate. Um. Yeah. So so I think obviously getting a vaccine is a pretty keep component to

re rejoining the dating pier for the single. That would be like the fun dating question, like which a vaccine did you get? That's the question starter at the beginning of the dating app. I don't know. I think it'll be an interesting dynamic. Those are the those are the means I keep seeing. It's like a tier system, like oh you got maderna. I don't want to talk to you what kind of thing. That's why I like us

getting Johnson and Johnson. I'm like Johnson and Johnson. That's kind of like the that's like the third tier vaccine that we're gonna get. But yeah, I don't know, I don't know. We'll see, all right, we'll say you. So something we're asking I guess our our guests, our co host is what is your worst first date story? So

do you have any really bad first date stories? I luckily I haven't had like horrible first dates, but just dating in New York was never like solid um just I think, yeah, it's bad, Like it's bad where you like lower your standards so much because you've just been experienced such bad dates are just like not good options or just there's so many women and just so a few men that you just kind of lower your standards naturally.

Um lookily gotten out of that headspace. But yeah, it's just not it's hard and I don't want to like be negative about it, but I've had some not great time that ghosted a lot. Um. There was a guy that showed up and showed up late and I couldn't see his face in the bar it was so dark.

It was like this cool speak easy and he had the voice like Kermit the Frog, And I just didn't expect that from text because he was like really cool on text, like seemed like he had it together, but not cool at all in person, and just there was a disconnect and it's just disappointing. You know, you don't want to start from a disappointment right from the jump,

but it happened a lot. Or like they're shorter than thought, or are you saying in New York that there is a lot more women dating than there are men to I think, like, yeah, as far as percentage goes, there's just more women to men, So then for men there's more options. And I think with New York everyone is so driven, which is great, but then it lends to like people not really want to get into relationships because they're like, I gotta go to work. I don't really

care about your feelings. So that was my experience, not saying everyone was like that. I'm sure there's some gems. There's definitely are because I met them, but I just didn't find them for me there. And I think that mismatched rag, mismatched ratio, Holy coth I could speak loudly.

Lends itself to uh, some pretty significant f boyery out there. Yeah, the submarining was really like a big thing for them out there, Like they would come back when they wanted the submarining where you would like go under surface and you just they forget about them for a while, but then they would just like submerge all of a sudden back into your life, stick around for a couple weeks to a month, and then submerge again. So yeah, um, it wasn't great, but we made it through. That's like

learned a lot. That was like a Jared had been dating term he used to drop on us one of the ones who looked up. Yeah, what was your worst first date? Dean? My worst first date? I mean I've had plenty, plenty of bad first dates. Um, the one that comes to mind first is I went on a bumble date like four or five years ago. And I

don't want to out bumble. It could have been a hinge date, it could have been a tender date, but I was I think I was only on bumble at the time, so I'm assuming it was a bumble date. But I went on a date with this girl and she was really pretty um, but she kept asking me questions that she already knew the answer to that we had like discussed like you know, in text or remember before the date, or she kept asking me questions or like saying things about me that didn't pertain to me.

And so in the back, in the back of my head, I'm like, this girl was talking to like thirty other guys because she's getting mixed up with thirty other guys. That the whole time it was like we were like we were like re we were talking about everything that we've already talked about up to that point because she was like trying to remember who I was. I felt like So that was I think maybe the one of the worst first dates I've ever been on, because the whole time, in the back of my head, I'm like,

what am I doing here? Like this sucks, this conversation stucks, We've already done that, blah blah blah. I'm sorry, I know that's not like there there. I wish it was a better story. The other worst first date I think that I went on was actually, uh is with this girl that I also meant a bumble around the same time, and um, yes, sorry bumble bumble stock taking a real big plummet. After this, and the first date it went great. You know, we went to a bar, we went out

and to like playpool or dance or something. Afterwards, Uh, nothing came with it. And then like a week later we had our second date and we just like ordered Chinese food in uh And I talked about this on the podcast before too. We ordered Chinese food into the apartment and like watched crappy eighties movies on that long. But the Chinese food somehow gave me like a really

like food poisoning, I guess. And so the second day, the very second time I've ever hung out this girl, I was like on my hands and knees vomiting in her toilet for six hours. Um, and that's just there's no recovering from She'll make or break. Right. Well, she was cool with it, and she was like like, you know, helpful and like all that stuff. But um, I was like so embarrassed and ashamed that I didn't want her to continue to see him in that light. So it

didn't really lead to anything. Will be forever associated with food poisoning for you. So that's too bad. And as far as I understand that she is now she's been with her boyfriend for like four years. So ever since that she the next boy she dated became her. You were good luck Chuck in that situation. Yeah, you know, it's funny. For the longest time, I thought I was good luck Chuck. I was like every girl that I like date or going a couple of days, so it

seems to find like their fiance afterwards. And it's funny. I was playing golf with my buddy yesterday who was saying the same thing, Like the last two girls he dated, one is now pregnant and the other one is like engaged to be married, and this is like within a matter of like eight months. And so he's like, yeah, I feel like good luck Chuck, and I hate that. Yeah, I'm gonna splip that. But you can be a good example that it doesn't have to always be like that.

So yeah, no, I agree, And eventually you'll find your own person too. So hopefully, hopefully, if you have a couple of bad first dates men on bumble or not, you stick through and just keep giving it a chance. But that's gonna do it. For this week's episode of Help I Suck At Dating, Sydney. I'm just gonna keep saying you last name, because now that I can say it properly, I like it. So Sydney, thank you so

much for joining us, Thanks for having me. And it's Sydney Lutwaco now, but soon enough it's got to be what's nixt last name weeby, so it would be Sydney wee bey Sydney Man. Yeah. A lot of wise, Yeah, a lot of wise. Very cheery, Sydney. Thank you for joining us. For the listeners out there to be sure to tune into what a Girl wants and be sure to tune into Sydney's other podcasts. Remind them the name of it again, Sydney. Something to share every Wednesday? Something

to share that's right? Um? What else? Big? Thank you to Shaquille for joining us on the podcast, and please email us, you guys live time I talked about this, I begged for some emails, so I second dating at iHeartMedia dot com. Send us some great stories and we will be sure to discuss them on the podcast. Be sure to tune in next week where maybe we suck just a little bit less fingers crossed. Follow help by Suck at Dating on I Heart Radio or wherever you listen to podcasts.

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