Opposite Icks with Hunter Haag

we got a bone to pick with you, Hunter. Sorry, I just gotta pick a bone and Jared real quick, pick a bone. Engagement party was good. It was beautiful, Kalin crushed it. The wedding planners uh and event planners all did a really really good job. Um, we were just two people short. You know, we budgeted for two more people and we didn't have the consumption needed to I guess to consume all the things. Even Dawson's getting a little upset about it. Good boy, Dawson. Um, he's

given me for not going to the engagement party. It was good on the most few things. You know, let me tell you exactly why we can't go. So we weren't planning. On the podcast, you were like, do we even invite you? And we weren't sure, and I was like, we'll invite us, and we probably just won't. That's my biggest mistake in life is the biggest mistake was inviting us.

What happened was so we weren't planning. We're in l A later this month for work, so we're like, okay, well we can't go back and forth, especially with Dawson. It's just impossible. Nick called us like, I don't know two weeks ago. I guess two and a half weeks ago, about a week and a half before he proposed, and he goes, I'm proposing to Natalie and we're having I'm proposing, and then we're gonna go back to the house and I want people like friends, close friends and family there

to be like surprised. It's a get together, We're so happy for you, blah blah blah blah blah, and in his most Nick way, goes, well, I wish I could move m Nick. He goes, listen, it would mean a lot to me if if you guys just sucked it up in game. We're like, how do we like? Because all we have because I know that we could probably logistically make it work if we just suck it up and go. And I was so like, I was like, well, if it means that much to you, I was like,

we'll definitely try. And he's like, well it would mean a lot to me if you were there. I'm like, all right, cool. So then we're like, okay, how do we make this work? And then it was that Thursday, January twelve, and your engagement party was Saturday, January and it was like, let's see if we can just make it. Seeing how we'll be in l A, we should try to go to both. The problem came. Your engagement party

was three to seven on Saturday. There are no flights later than about like one or two o'clock out of Los Angeles to the East coast because of the time change, because if you leave, you're if you leave at two o'clock, it's a six about five let's say five and a half hours plus three hours, so it's eight and a half hours, so you don't get back till about midnight.

So that's why there's no flights unless we took a red eye, but even then we went back till Sunday, so we were like, okay, either we fly go to Nick fly on Thursday, fly out Friday because her parents have to watch Dawson, and we felt terrible leaving him there for three nights compared to one night, because it's it's much easier. Been like, listen, we're just gonna drop him off for one night. We'll be back tomorrow. I just gotta get through this one night because he's not

sleeping through the night. You know, he's still a lot and they're in their sixties. I don't want to put too much on him, and they've watched him so much. I know she doesn't give a crap. I give a crap because I feel terrible because I feel like I'm pawning off my kid to someone, you know, and I always feel bad about that. See Hunter, there we go.

So long story short, it was like we either go for just Thursday, go to Nick's and then come directly back, or we do Thursday, Friday, Saturday, come back on Sunday, which means they'd have Dawson for four days, three nights. And it was just like, let's just go for the one night. Dean will hate us, but like we know that, like the way Nick phrase did it, and we just knew how much it would mean to Nick if we were there, and it was like, we just gotta go,

we gotta go. And then of course when we were there, we're glad we went because he saw it. Like as soon as he walked in, he came up to us, gave us like a big hug and kiss and was like, I can't tell you how much it means that we're you guys are here. And I was like, well, god, damn it, there we go. Plus yours is an engagement party. His was like the proposal. So I was like, it's kind of like a wedding almost. I don't know what to do. So we had a lot of back and

forth that it was not easy. We wanted to go to the gage of party and we're so sorry and we suck. It's cool, man, I just you know, now I see where I rank in your friendship between here we go, here we go. It is what it is. It's okay. It's just, you know, just a little sad to you know, so you always know in the back of your head, but it's always just a little saddening to really see it. This is not if you if you called if it was the compete opposite. And Nick

was like, hey, we have an engagement party. If you can make it great. If you can't, like not a big deal. And then you called and you were like, hey, I'm proposing to Kaitlin. We're having like a little get together. It would mean a lot to me if you guys

could really try to suck it up and come. And I was like, all right, well, obviously Dean wants us there more than Nick does, because Nick's is just like get together, which is great and wonderful and fantastic, and we want to be there to support because we love you guys. But it's like I equated it because a couple of years ago, I got invited to Carly and Evans wedding and it was the same day as my buddy's bachelor party. And I was like, oh no, So I was either gonna miss Carlin Evans wedding or I

was gonna miss his bachelor party. And so I was like, well, a wedding takes precedent over a bachelor party because we can like go get drinks another time, and I know he only has one, but like it's like you just gotta pick and choose and it sucks because you love them both. And so I went to the wedding, and my buddy still has never forgiven me. He was like, yeah, a bachelor party you didn't go to, And I'm like, bro, I had a wedding and now Carly never known divorced,

So maybe it was just a big waste of time. Um, all right, Well, I'm am gonna hold this over your head for the rest of eternity. I am sad that you guys didn't make it. I'm especially sad that you guys didn't make it and you were in l A the same weekend. But I do understand the days. The days are long, and you had your b me to get back to. It's just those things that's really because if it was if it wasn't for dowset, of course we would have been there and be like, oh, we'll

just go and stay for a few nights. But we had a baby friendly party, though we had everything a baby possibly could need, and you don't you guys would know that because you weren't there. So we were not going to bring Dawson. That was the thing, because we're flying cross country with him later this month, and the idea of flying cross country with him in the first place, as you can hear in the background, is already like

just trying to like get mentally prepared for that. And the idea of doing it twice in a matter of two and a half weeks, Dude, I would have it would have taken a lot. Let me tell you it's okay. It makes me sad. I'm going to hold it over the head for your head. I'm sorry, dude. We love you guys, and like, God, damnit, I don't want to I don't want to hear this ban during I don't

want to hear it. I do want to say, though, I do feel bad because we have had our co host sitting in the wings this entire time, as we've been airing out our dirty laundry with each other. Um, you guys know her from I know you from the Last Bachelor and Paradise Bachelor Paradise Ses eight. I think it was right. Her name is and I hope I say the last name right. Hunter Hag, Hag, big hunter Hag. It's definitely better than Hag. You know, you can never know.

Last names are weird these days not these days are always been weird, but especially living in the South. People don't even say my first name, right, so it's always Hunter Hag. What a lovely name, Hunter Hag. How did you say your first name? It's they say Hunter with no T Hunter. Oh, you were on Hunter. You were on Clayton season and then you were on Batchel and Paraday season eight. Briefly, Yes, most famously known for ibs, right that. Yeah, that seems to be the case. Maybe're

not most famously, but that's what I remember. Yeah, I love that for me. Kicked off the whole season sitting on the toilet, so that was that was a good moment for me. But you wonder why I like it so much because, for the first time on reality television in my experience, I gotta watch people talk about poop in the way that like, you know, people talk about it regularly, but you never talked about it on television. So it was nice to see. It was refreshing. Yeah, yeah,

that's definitely a way to to look at it. Definitely the bright side of it, for sure. So but yeah, I'm super super open with ibs. You kind of have to be if you have it, you know, like you're gonna eventually have to be like y'all, I gotta excuse myself real quick, so you just gotta put it out there and then nobody, you know, it's kind of like, oh, what's what's happening. What I tell usually is anytime she knows, like if I say, hey, I got into the bathroom,

that means I have to pay. And if I say hey, I have to use the restroom, she knows that's a poop. That's like my telltale sign. I don't know why I started. She called me out at one time. She's like, you know, every time you say you say you have to use the restroom, it's poop, and every time you say you have to use the bathroom p And I'm like, I think that would be opposite because I have to use

the restroom so proper, so proper for you. That's interesting, Yeah, oh it's I think probably Dean can attest this like as a guy, poop time is like very um, it's important, it's it's it is sacred, like it is the time where I closed the door. I literally most of the time when I have to go go to the restroom, I'll close the door and there'll be an audible like and then I do my thing, and it's like a great minutes. Not the sigh, not to sigh. I've got a question for you, how much do you hate talking

about this? On a scale of one to ten, I think I've only got a five. You know, like you're used to it. You don't like it, but you're you are okay used to it. It's kind of my personality now. So was it But is that from the show that that became a thing or was it like amongst your friend group? Everyone? I don't know. So my friends knew about it. I was diagnosed when I was like seven years old, so this has been something that everybody knows about. But I did not talk about it to the extent

in which I did on the show. But because if you rewind back to Clayton's season, we were in Toronto and we did um a roast and Marlena had roasted me about how IBS matches my personality. So I guess it's a pretty good roast. It was good. It was pretty good. Yeah, yeah, no, it was definitely good. I got a lot of good roasts that day, so against me, oh yeah, oh. I feel like if I was in a roast people would crush me. It would not be a good day for me. Yeah, I think there's a

lot of roast about me. Yeah. I can definitely roast a bunch of things about you, Jared, Like how you come to your friends engagement party, but you fly out all of your other friends engagement Okay, cool. So so we want to talk about ibs anymore, Hunter, just for your own sanity, UM, I want to know how did you How did you get on the show in the

first place? I was okay. So, actually, to back it up a little bit, I was a character performer at Walt Disney World, and I had already thought about potentially applying for the show at one point because I was in a relationship for seven years I was cheated on, and then I was like, oh, what if I go and find love on The Bachelor? Um? Which is funny because I didn't even watch the show up until Colton season of The Bachelor, UM, and that's the only season

I really watched. So after COVID happened, I was laid off from Disney and all my friends were with me and they were like, we're all going to nominate you to go on The Bachelor because now you don't have that conflict of interest. I couldn't work at Disney and go on The Bachelor, So um, yeah, they took it upon themselves to nominate me, and I got a call I think, I want to say it was like March or April. It was months after the fact, and I

almost in the answer. I don't usually answer random vote calls, but I did and they were like, hey, this is so suffer Bachelor casting. It was like, are you serious? Like this is actually like somebody actually reached out to me. This is crazy. But yeah, so that's how I ended up on the show. Yeah. I just kept getting through each round and I was like, how was this happened? How am I still around? Every single time? I was like, oh I blew that. But yeah, somehow that's gonna have

one for me too. I feel like, I was like, I can't believe they still want to continue on with me, But here we are. Um, Jared, if you had to guess what character Hunter would play at a Disney Park, well, unfortunately I already know this because it was it was in the Rundown you were Bell. I was yes, that was another one. Though you were Bell. I would pick you more as a Cinderella because you have blonde hair.

We wear wigs. We were awaked in colored contacts, so I was Bell from Beating the Beast and then Rapunzel from Tangled, so I were obviously a very long wig for a Punzel and green colored contacts. Did you have to do you have to sing while working at Disney playing Bell? No? God, no, no, I'm not a singer. Um. You did have to improv and act and do all these things. You had to use her voice and have

her mannerisms. You'd go through this extensive character training, um and basically learn how to be that character through and through. So that's all I did. But I did Uh the Castle Show, and I was a Punzel on that and we with lip sing. Mhm h. So what is it? Is there any secrets of working at Disney? Are there tons of them? What do you want to know? Everything? Tunnel?

So there isn't. So I have heard that the characters have to use these underground tunnels and you are only allowed to be out of character when you're not being seen by anybody, which is why you guys go in these tunnels because you don't want to be walking out of the park as Bell. Like not that you smoke, but like I envisioned like these workers just like smoking a cigarette and telling everybody to go straight to hell if a kid runs out to them because they're trying

to get to the car and go get a drink. Yeah, so we actually have a full transportation system that gets us to m from the parking lot, the cast parking lot to the tunnels of Magic Kingdom, and so you're underground the entire time up until you go on what we say on stage um, and that's where any employee that works there because they don't want to see somebody from tomorrow Land over in frontier Land because it disrupts the whole idea of what Walt Disney had with everything

being separate and being in this like alter universe. So yeah, it's not just character performers. But when we're downstairs in the tunnel, um, and it's very it's huge, it's huge. We have like a subway down there. We have it's called the mousk Tyria, so we can like go eat there. Um, their vehicles that drive through there. So it's very large.

But um, yeah, we stayed on there until we go up and then we can do meet and greets or shows and then yeah, you can't break character ever, ever, ever, ever, Like even if something crazy happens in front of you, like I saw this man tackle somebody else in front of me, and I just had to be like, oh, I need to go see Lumier. No way, You're like gotta go. That's pretty funny. I have a couple of friends who also were perfor performers, I guess for Disney.

They played like silver Mist and the other one was Mulan. So they always raved about how like transformative it was. It's it's so interesting to hear because they like absolutely like they love their jobs, you know, and like then they would get like these full time jobs where they would like, you know, their careers, but then they would still come back and do this occasionally and like just rave about it and it's crazy like the culture that

they're able to create. Yeah. Yeah, I actually did that too. I moved back to Charlotte, North Carolina and started my job in HR and was still going seasonal, so I would spend my vacation time for my corporate job to then go back to Disney World and that's crazy there. Yeah, it's pretty cool. Do you still do that or no? No? Because I was laid off and Honestly, I'm getting a little up there. You know, I just turned thirty, so oh, yeah,

you're so old, get the hell out of here. Well, when you're portraying a character that's like seventeen years old, like, which is crazy. When you think about these Disney characters, they're all like I think Jasmine is like fourteen, and Aladdin it's something cookie crazy like that. Yeah, I want to say, she's sixteen, snow White, sport teen, um. But then like Els and on and the ones that are more recent, they're getting older, so there as they well

should yeah, exactly. Creepy. Yeah, it's very weird. It's very weird. They're because I always envisioned like all these princesses like in their twenties, That's what I always imagine. But as I get older and then you hear these stories of like no, like you said, snow wait it's fifteen or whatever, and Jasmine sixteen, and you're like, wait a minute, so you're telling me Jaffar, this creepy, creepy old man was hitting on a sixteen year old and wanted to marry her,

and he in return seduced him. It's it's very weird. It's very weird really, just like makes you feel uncomfortable. So another secret that I've heard from Disney, and I don't know if it's true or not, and I don't even know if you would have knowledge of this, but I've heard that there is a cat farm that Disney has. Have you heard of this? A cat farm? A cat

farm where Disney. So this is the story that I've heard that there's potentially a cat farm that Disney owns where they raise these cats, and these cats are trained to go into the park at night and kill all the mice that are in the Disney park because obviously there is I would imagine some sort of infestation of mice throughout the Disney parks because think of how much food there is on the ground, Like, how could there not be mice that get in there and try this food.

So I've heard that Disney, in trying to counteract this raise these cats, bred these cats and their sole purpose was to be trained to go into the park after hours, kill all the mice, and come back at sunrise before the park opens. Do you have any knowledge of this? I have heard this, and that is not true, because we would do overnight. I know we would do overnight rehearsals when the park is closed for you know, just a couple of hours, and I saw no cats there,

So that's disappointed because it's so inventive and creative. Maybe they don't send the cats out on the nights you guys are doing rehearsals. Maybe they maybe they're like super super secret. Yeah, Kitty Cat clan up there with Walt's dead body being in the tunnels too, So that's it. That's just what it is. Apparently he stored somewhere frozen because he said if technology or science advances enough to bring him back, he would like to come back. So

apparently his body's furs. I kind of believe it a little bit. Do I believe the location of him, No, but I do kind of believe that he was. You know, he has a pretty big imagination, so I could see it. I could see it. But what is true? This is wild. So there is something that we called I think it's code Grandpa, could Grandma something like that. Um. A lot of people will bring UH their loved ones ashes and

try to spread them. Yes, Sarks and UH specifically on Haunted Mansions ride a lot, so they have to stop the ride and go clean up the ashes, because ashes apparently glow in the dark. So how can ashes glow in the dark? Is that some sort of Disney technology? Honestly, don't quote me on that because it might sound really stupid, but that's what I heard. That's what I heard, Disney technology.

Chairs Well, like, how could ashes glow in the dark unless you're using some sort of like specific black light to show that all this is? But even like, will a black light show ashes of human being? I thought a black light was more of it? Does? I think

it does? Yeah, that's what I told because like, okay, not to like go down like a a disgusting path, but obviously when I think of a black light of people using a black light, I think I think of like these TV shows that used for like either blood or semen, you know, like all these stains I've never

thought of being able to do exactly, not like human particles. Yeah. Uh, well, I know that's true because I know for a fact that a family member of mine who passed away, she spread It's like my aunt, she spread her husband's ashes in Disney somewhere I don't remember where, not on a ride, like in water somewhere. Okay, at Disney. Well, hey, so she was a big Disney fan. They were there, it was like their place that they'd always go to. So that's why he said he wanted his ashes spread over Disney.

Well that I mean, I support it. I supported High Mansion is a little bit weird, but uh, definitely support it. It would be weird to be on a ride and he's got a face full of cremated remains, could you imagine? And you probably wouldn't even know. You'd be like, well that just like brush it off and you still have remains on your face. So I'm looking up more Disney rumors and these are fascinating, and I need to know if you've heard of any of these. Okay, ready, I'll

shoot him off. Okay, let's go. If you shout Andy's coming in the Toy story Land, all the characters will freeze. That used to be true. Um, they used to because you said Andy's coming. That had to pretend like they were toys. That's actually not um allowed anymore because we're actually not supposed to get on the ground at all. If you're in what's called a sculptural character, um, like I was Chippendale, and you have to like on top

of Big Princess. That's what you're trained in first, so you're not allowed to eat in them, you're not allowed to get on the ground. So yeah, no false now, But there's a secret hidden sweet in the Cinderella Castle. Sure what. Yeah, I don't think it's that secret, but I will say it's like it's booked out years and years and years and years, and it's typically only for celebrities or if you win some type of gameaway. I

gotta tried to booked this. I mean, I'm not a celebrity and I don't probably have that kind of money. But we can figure this out. You can't go more than thirty steps between trash cans. Correct, Wow, dude, this is the best. Those are the best. Those are the big ones right there. Yeah, dude, Like, I just I

love Disney. I'm always like enamored by Disney and what they're able to pull off, and like, I don't know, I know they're like a lot of people hate on Diszer right now for world things, But I don't know. Big Disney guy. Not gonna lie, Big Disney guy. Yeah, I know, I do. I do love I do love Disney. I think a lot of people think that I'm a Disney Adult because I worked there, and I'm like, no, I just wanted to be a character performer, which there's

nothing wrong to big at Disney Adult. But so, yeah, how did you become a character performer? Like? Did you apply for this? Did you want to? Were you in acting? Uh? No, no, no, no, no, not an actress at all. But I went to Disney when I was younger and one of the characters, which now I know this was really against character integrity. But she said that I looked like Belle and I should

come back when I'm older, which is actually true. It looks like Bell at the time could have been my older sister or my mother because I was like nine or so nine and eleven, and um yeah, so that's stuck in my head and I was like, I gotta do it. I just have to. And that was kind of a vacation spot for my family and me. So what character told you this? Aurora Sleeping Beauty? Oh wow? So like this woman who played Sleeping Beauty has no idea how much of an impact she had on your life.

Oh she does. Now we found each other. Why can't you find each other? She was still working at Disney uh no, no, no, no. But I found the bell that I met that day, and I found the Aurora um and we found each other because we have a secret princess group. Dude, I've loved Disney so much. I sounds so weird right now, you don't. This is like the coolest podcast we've ever done. But yeah, so we found each other. It's really cool. And it includes like

anybody that was a princess like however long ago. It includes people on Disney Cruise Line, uh, Tokyo, Disney Shanghai. So have you talked to Tinley because Tinley was a Disney princess Tinley from Bachelor. I don't know if remember she was um Tinley? Oh she's married now most mostly do you know anything about this? No? I actually don't. But Susie was also a Disney princess Evans. That makes sense.

I gotta ask, though, So how did you reach out to the group asking that question about if that person was there, the person that inspired you? So I had a picture with her, Um, So I pulled those from the archives of my family's printed photos and take a picture of it, and I said, does anybody know this Aroora? Because she changed my life. That's so sweet and yeah, it was really cool. So I'm gonna hold up a

picture of Tinley any recognization do you recognize? I don't, but character she was she looks like she was a little mermaid. Oh she was an area but she was aerial. Yeah, I think she was aerial in Japan though, so okay, so she probably did a lot of characters. Would you do it? Um? When your character performer in Japan you get a whole string at characters is super cool. I only got to do too here in Florida. So when you see pictures of people with other princesses, do you

ever think that it might be you? Because that's like you said, you took this picture with Um, which which princess was it? Again? Aurora? Aurora? Right? Okay, so but now, like, how does that Aurora know that it was them? Because I imagine when your hair is up in the in the wig and you got all the makeup on, not the same, but like close enough to where now it is.

It's honestly kind of hard. Sometimes. I actually took a screenshot of a picture that I thought was me for the longest time, and somebody was a country that's actually not you and the slightest and it was like, oh good thing, I didn't post that on my Yeah, but but I feel like you can pretty much tell. I mean I still looked the same, but just different, I guess. But I mean we are casted to look the same, so it's very possible that you would sometimes be like, oh,

is is that me? Or is that my friend Lacey? Or is that my friend Stacy? Like you don't know, there's a Lacy and Stacy. Yea. It's the same with my brothers. I feel like I'll go through like old photo albums and I'll be like, is that me? Or is that ross? Because I absolutely yeah, you know what I mean, Yeah exactly, I'm trying to pull up like this is me as Bell? Can you see that? Oh yeah, you're unrecognizable that it looks like like a clip from Belle?

Like yeah, very legitimate. And then I have for Punzel very nice. Which one did you prefer? Did you like one more than the other? Bell A thousand percent? Rapunzel. I don't know if you guys have ever seen Tangled. It's actually a really good movie. But Rapunzel is super excitable and just like crazy energy and always just like happy. I guess I don't know, that's not so bad, um, and I just am not that excitable um to her level.

So it was exhausting being Rapunzel, whereas for Bell it was a lot more just like Lax, and people were a lot more respectful at Bell for whatever reason. I think because she wears a big dress, so people understood um like spatial awareness a little bit more. Uh so other because Rapunzel she has like nothing, It's literally just a straight dress, so people get all over you and pull on her hair and all that kind of stuff.

So definitely like that better. Well you're you're I'm sure in thirty years you're gonna get a picture from a kid and say, hey, you inspired me to do this. Maybe not. That would be amazing if I did mission accomplished. Um. All right, I want to pivot real quick away from Disney and Princesses. Although that was very illuminating. Thank you very much for sharing all that with us. Um. I

want to talk about your time on Paradise. So we saw you this past season season eight Paradise, and I just want to hear about your experience on the beach down there because I'll tell you I'll tell you my

first impressions. Um I I didn't. I don't. I don't think I watched Clayton's season, to be honest, but I watched Paradise and the Full because you were part of the first group of people, right, yes, And I honestly was like, I think the only person that I would get along with down there guys or girls would be Hunter. Really yea, And that's why I was so sad when you left so early, because I was like, that's like the one person that I like was kind of getting

along with here, you know. Yeah, No, I was sad too, for sure. It was super short lived. I was like ready to go to I was like, man, this is what I'm gonna wear all my day, and like this is what I want to do here and there. But yeah, no, um I I still had a good experience just because I was with my friends. And I mean, as you guys know, that's pretty much the best part of everything, um is being able to spend time with with the

people that you love. But um, yeah, I walked down I I was immediately drawn to Johnny because he wasn't really talking to anybody, not really giving people the time of day. So of course knowing me, I'm like, oh perfect, Um, go after the one that doesn't want to be here, you have like red flags? Oh perfect with me. Um. So yeah, I started talking to him and we just had great conversation and just kind of hit it off. Um,

and I really was comfortable with our relationship. I mean you even see me talking about it, like, you know, Victoria came in and kind of swept him away very very last minute. We're talking like super super last minute right before the Rose ceremony, and um, I even still had a little bit of confidence that I was like, you know, Victoria Fuller is something else. She's your like

some serious, she's beautiful, has a great personality. But I was like, but I've been talking to Johnny for the past week and I feel like we have a strong connection. So I was definitely blindsided. And that was the part that was most upsetting to me, just because I didn't even get to have a conversation with him about it. M I'm sorry, Yeah, it's okay, But I mean I had high hopes for it, and I was ready to

find somebody. But was there anybody that you were hoping either that was there that you wanted to talk to or somebody that you're hoping would have been there that wasn't there when you were there. Um. So I was hoping that I would get to meet Rick. Um a lot of Rick Leach. I think it's looking him up right now. I remember Rick. He's kind of like an older, good looking guy, right. I don't know how old it is, maybe not older, but you really don't know much about Yeah.

I didn't really do like a lot of like studying going into Paradise because I really wanted a fresh slate with everybody. And that's why I was mostly excited to meet Rachel and Gabby's guys. Um, which is kind of weird because I'm really good friends with Rachel and Gabby. So it's like, this is gonna it's gonna be a

little strange, like taking in taking in their guysfriends. Yeah, exactly. Um, but those are definitely the people I was most excited about, because I just didn't have any idea who they were anything about them. But there were other people there that I wanted to meet, like Justin Glaze, Um, So I was excited to see him there, um, but he was already coupled up with Genevieve by the time that I even walked down on the beach. I think I was

one of the last girls to walk down the beach. So, yeah, have you reached anyone post filming that you had interest in, like, like you said Rick, right, have you reached out to him at all and said anything? Um? I just had reached I. I did a little d m um and had said that I wish that I had gotten to meet him, but nothing like really passed that. Um. And I've spoken to Johnny since, but that was the first time that I had got an apology from him. Not know that. I not that I was like, you need

to apologize to me or anything like that. Um, but I think he just kind of felt a little bad for the whole blind siding situation. Yeah, so he was somebody I talked to. Anybody that was first on the beach I've been in contact with and still because I was at the reunion too, so I was able to see everybody there. So this guy Rick Leech, I remember

him very good looking. He does look a little bit like he would be a villain in a heist movie, Like, tell me that guy isn't like he looks like the guy would be a part of like the Bad Guy Crew like Oceans eleven, but he would be the bad guy in the Bad Guy Crew, you know what I mean? Like I like root against him. It looks like in a spin off of one of those movies he would play the John ham Roll. Yeah, because I can see that. It's like he kind of looks like John Hammy a

little bit. Yeah. Uh. But he's a very good looking Justin So I like Justin a lot. So I think he's he's like very um, he's kind of like self deprecating and down to earth, and you seem the same way Hunter, So I'm I would love love if that was, like, yeah, if you guys just like hung out, Yeah, that would be, wasn't he Yeah? Yeah, So him and Andrew came to Audrey's, which was so nice. By the way, if you would like to ever come to audrey we'd love to have you.

You know, I did go one night and you were Yeah. I went with Jill. You were in Rhode Island, Yes, yeah, and you came to Audrey's. I did. We were there for it was like a karaoke night. You came to karaoke and I wasn't there. Yes, I forget where you guys were though, because I knew we knew that you weren't going to be there. But that's probably why you want to understandable pointed. I was like, man, I have it, Hunter, we could talk about Disney for seven hours like this

unlimited time. Oh. I would have shut karaoke down and been like this is going to turn into a Disney night. Um, oh, Hunter, will you definitely need to come back? So your friends with Jill, Yes, we're besties. I talked to Jill almost every single day. Yeah, okay, well then you definitely have to come back because Jill is an amazing human being. She just moved to Newport, which is so exciting. I'm gonna go visit her in Newport. Please let me know

or let me know. Um, I'll follow you on Instagram when you come, and we'd love to like hang out in Audrey's and Ashley be there and it will be a nice night. Yeah, that'd be awesome. I'm excited. I think I'm gonna come when it's a little bit warmer. You don't want to come into like the blistering cold, when it's single digits and it gets dark at four o'clock. Yeah, I was already shivering and you guys version of fall. I was like, I don't know if I can do winter,

but will be back soon. Charlotte, North Carolina pretty warm here. Yeah, it's always humid though, so you always have a little bit of extra extra warmth added. I don't mind humidity. I don't understand that people. I I never I've never minded humidity. I like it. It makes me feel like I'm my skin is clean and I'm I feel healthier in humanity because I feel like I'm always sweating, like I'm always working out. I don't know, right, Yeah, no, no,

I love it. Honestly. It feels like a nice, warm hug. And everybody in Paradise was dying and I was like, oh, I am thriving right now in this weather. So what's your current really ship status? I am talking to somebody. Okay, that's a situation ship if you will, Okay, anybody we know, anybody, no, nobody,

you guys know it's probably for the better. Yeah, okay, Okay, that's just good information to have going into a conversation about situation or whatever we're about to talk about, you know, because you don't want to be going under the veil of Hunter being a fully single person when she's in a situation ship. Is the situation ship from Jersey Shore

or is that just like a good question. I think it's I I heard it on TikTok okay, because I was thinking because the situation Mike the situation and I remember him saying on Jersey Shore one time it was a situation ship. Oh, I mean that's that's pretty creative. It is pretty creative. You know, they're all pretty creative.

So obviously we are a dating podcast and we haven't really talked about dating that much, but we do have some quote unquote X that we want to get to, which is a hot topic of ours, which on TikTok apparently a lot of women have been sharing these biggest turn offs a k A. There X. But let's take a quick break. When we come back, we'll talk about

TikTok's X. All right, welcome back to the podcast. We're gonna talk about the twenty three X about men that apparently no one talks about but are very very unsettling. So we're gonna get everybody's thoughts, specifically Hunters, because you know, you can tell us whether it's an it or not. The first one I don't understand. It says chasing, chasing a ping pong ball is just never okay for anyone.

Is this about beer pong? Okay? Yes, And it's so funny that you started off with that one, because I thought if this was going to be an open ended question, that was gonna be my first one. Shut up. So well, I'm confused. So you're telling me, yes, you're playing beer pong and you can't catch the ball once it like bounces on the ground and you're just trying. Yeah, if it hits the ground, it's dead. But if it's bouncing

on the table, you go after that ping pong for sure. No, that's that's like the cool, the cool way to grab the ball. But if it falls on the ground, you're chasing after it. You're like in that bench over position. I'm like trying to, you know, enagle the ball. It's just a little bit of an egg mhm. So that's what it is amouse about being an I I could see.

I mean, I've definitely been the chaser of a ping pong ball and and not felt very cool because of the amount of effort I was putting into chasing that pink pong ball. So I could see why that would be an eck, why do you care so much about this meaningless game of beer pong? Yeah, that's kind of what it was. I think best practice would just be to let it roll and then walk over to it calmly. Got it good to right. These are things that we need to know because I never thought about it there. Yeah,

now I think about man. That brings out so many insecurities and moments of my life that I look back on and I'm like, oh God, she must have found me the most unattractive human being as I'm like running after a ball that's bouncing, looking like a dog chasing a car. I found this at a younger age, which I think is pretty fortunate. A lot of people still

haven't figured it out. Um, A lot of people I think that games like that, like beer pong or whatever, like a party game, is like be competitive share, but a lot of people really think it is like the most important thing in the world. And I think that's my ick for that as well as when people care too much about winning those meaningless games. That's my personal way, and that kind of falls any kind of chasing the pink pong ball, you know, agreed, So you're not really

a competitive person. Oh I am, I am, but I just don't I even I am, but I just don't think losing a game of beer pong is the end of the world. Nor am I going to exert a maximumount of effort to win. I want to win, and I'm gonna do my best to win, but I'm not going to jump across the table for a ping pong ball, you know, fair enough. Let me preface my next statement by saying that I feel like Dean and I are we would never say that where um, I don't know

the most suave swag person, you know what I mean? Like, we're fine, but I think we both have the self awareness to understand that while being competitive, we will never be those guys who are playing beer pong with girls and being like like screaming like oh fuck, or like, you know, being that guy, because we know how much of a turn off it is, and we'd rather take our competition level down then look unattractive to women. Does that make sense? I think we're at least aware enough. Yeah.

Self awareness. Yeah, that's all I had to say. I guess self aware this there we go. Really just self awareness is key is what you're saying. What's the opposite of a nick? Is there like a term for it? Turn off? Like a term? Is it a term for it? Oh? Yeah, yeah, sorry I misunderstood there. Yeah, but but for like a slang, what would if it's slang for a turn off? Yeah, a slank for turn on would be yummy? Yeah, Yummy's definitely a nick. And another one is walking back after

your turn in bowling. Oh yeah, that's not that's not a nick. You have to walk back? How else am I going to get back to my seat? First of all, bowling in itself it will never be a turn on for anybody. You have to wear bowling shoes, which is disgusting and they look terrible. Plus the act of bowling, even if you're good at it, it's kind of like, oh you're good at bowling, like congratulations. So there's really no win win. Bowling is just meant to be like

a very dumb ha ha time. We're all having fun, we're drinking. Okay, cool, you think about it, like, actually, I can't think of a bigger ick than bowling in itself. You have to wear bowling shoes that other people wear. It usually smells in a bowling alley. The food is not good. You're sticking your fingers in three holes in a bowling ball that have have had had fingers in there all day and night. It's sweaty because the bowling ball is heavy, and then you have to knock down pins.

Everybody's exhausted after one game. Don't get me wrong, I love bowling, but I'm not saying that I'm going to go to bowling and try to seduce a woman. Mm hmm, No, that's fair. I feel like, honestly, it is a little bit worse. It's more of an if you're good at bowling and use you the whole like sliding of the foot at a diagonal behind you. I definitely do that. I actually went bowling last week and I am really bad. So maybe it's like an ironic slide of the foot

because I bowled like a sixty. But here I am like trying my hardest to look really cool while I do it. It's like a performative slide. It really is. Well, So this is my issue with bowling is I'm the only one. I was the only one there that night. There's like eight of us. I was the only one that wanted to put spin on the ball, to spin it around into the into the slot of the one three pin, and everyone else is just like hucking it straight. And they were beating me. But my ball pattern was

way better than there they were. Just mine was like, you know, so that's you know, is when people throw the ball straight and bowling. So there was a bowling alley. There was a bowling alley we used to go to. Um it was a lot of fun. They had the small bowling balls. But the cool part about it was they had a speedometer. So truthfully, it was me and like six other guys and we would go and we could care less about our score. And it really what came down to was like who could throw the bowling

ball the fastest stuff in the alley? Just go up and just I honestly, I would throw up my shoulder every single guy, damn time. It was pathetic, but it was honestly a lot of fun. Another it is when he sings the wrong lyrics so confidently and thinks that he's right. Yeah, I mean that's just for anybody. Again. All these are like self awareness things like make fun of yourself. If you don't know the words, then just like, yeah, whoops, see love this song. Have no idea what the hell

I'm saying? Um, I'm when he jump down on some of these because some of these are like these are like literally things that just people just do. Um. Yeah, when his laces are done up really tight and the bow was massive, that one's pretty funny, I guess. But yeah, yeah, I would never notice that ever. Yeah. Same, And I'm a big shoe person, so but that would not strike me as something that's an I says him running with a backpack on, which is quite funny because I definitely can.

I just yeah, it's a pathetic look because the backpack is like bouncing. You're just like trying to control it, and I'll like exactly hold they hear, which means I can't run with my arms because I'm holding my backpack. It's quite pathetic. Honestly. That's me in an airport a lot of the time. So I I myself, what are your IX like this guy that you're talking to if you were listening to this, what would you want him to know that your I is, well, maybe that you

don't want to know, maybe like a secret secret. Um. I can't think of anything that's too creative, because the first thing that comes to mind is when somebody's overly confidential in general and you're just an egotistical person, I just immediately know just not going to happen. Um, the ping pong ball was the one that I had ready to go in my back pocket. I don't know, do you guys have any good ones? What are you guys?

It's your biggest one, I mean one of the biggest X. I guess would be this is more of like that's not personal hygiene, but when there's the shower is clogged because of hair, Oh, it's like, oh no. I remember the first time, and it was just like because then I would take tissue paper and like lift the hair out because I'd be standing in the shower in a puddle of water because the water is in draining because your hair goes everywhere and it's clogging the drain, and

so I have to pick it up and it's just like this wet pie of hair that I throw in the garbage. And I'm like, that is so disgusting. But at the same time, as a man, I'm very aware that there will be little hairs all over the sink because when I, first of all I clean up very thoroughly after I shave, and yet still Ashley was walking in the room with like a stink eye. I clean up after myself, but yes, there's little hairs because they just get everywhere and I'm trying to clean them up.

I take like a good five minutes of making sure that, like I washed my face, everything is down the drain, I wipe the whole counter, and then I come back and there's still just like little hairs somewhere, and I'm like, I don't know what the hell to do. Yeah, a lot of girls also will put their hair on the wall of the I'm sorry what they'll put their their hair on the wall of the shower. What do you

mean they put their hair on the wall. If you're like distioning or something and you're just getting to the bottom, you you shed a lot of hair and you just stick it on the wall and then that way it doesn't go in the drain. But that's also probably nick But then what is it? Does it just sit there for a while. If I walked into the shower and saw patches of hair on the shower wall, I think that would be grounds for divorce and no one would

blame you. The responsible thing is to take it off of the wall, and then there's third in the trash can after. But so you do dispose of it, I let you just let it sit there for eternity. Um I thought of an ick and this I applies to men and women as it pertains to me. So when I'm driving someone or people and there is the GPS on the screen and they tell me when to get off and take a turn or which exit to take, and it's like, yeah, I know, I see it on the maps. That's my That's one of my big eggs.

I hate when people tell me. I hate when people tell me where I should be going when I already know where to go. Or another I I'm sure Dean, you can relate to this because Ashley will tell me like, oh, I know where I'm going, and so she doesn't want me to put it in the GPS, but I'm like, yeah, but it's gonna tell me the fastest way to get there. And she's like, I know the fastest way and I'm like, yeah, but you don't know the traffic route. So I'm gonna

put it in. And there's like a good like two minute moment of tension where it's like I'm going to put it in the GPS and this is what's going to happen. And she's just like I know where I'm going, and I'm like, I don't doubt this, but what I do doubt is that you know the fastest route. I

don't blieve. True. Every second counts. That didn't remind me actually, Um, speaking about cars and driving, UM, one of my big X is just driving in general because I just imagine this person in this tiny little pod and we're just all sitting something about it just freaks me out. I don't like it. It just makes me by myself. So when you're driving away from somebody, to say, it's the person that you're talking to, and you're like, okay, see you later. You have to get in there, and you're

just hold on very well your personal escape. Yeah, a little escape pod. I'm probably gonna get for saying this, but just women driving in general is like an ick to me now that you bring that up, Hunter, And I think back upon like my single days when that would occur, where like a woman would get in her car and I'd get in mine and then I see them drive away. There is something about that you're right

where it's like like these girls would be. There's so close to steering wheel and like just like two hands on the wheel and it's like very everything is like so precise and just like like this driving yeah wow, oh my god when shield wiper type turns. Yeah, but that's the cool way to drive. So guys are cool and girls are not cool, is what you're saying. No, I'm not not all girls, because I will say Ashley drives together. It's it's not an ick when Ashley drives.

She's good driver. She's a hot driver because she But you're right, man, now that I think about it, like just so many times when like there's so why do you guys sit so close to the wheel. I guess maybe short on short legs. I try to perform my hottest driving if I am driving away from a person that I am in a relationship with. It's it's something I actively think about. It's genius. I I gotta stay out of this conversation. Uma is Kalin a close driver? She is very close. It's funny. So she has a

Tesla and there's two driver settings. Kalin's one setting and I'm the other setting. And every time I opened the driver's side door with my phone, it sets to my setting, and every time she opens it with her phone, it sets to her setting. The seat like where the seat is, and it's just funny. And I sit really far back and really leaned back, like more than a normal person should,

and she sits really far forward. And so every time one of us switches drivers in the car, it's just like funny to see the seat automatically push really far forward or really far back, and it takes like thirty seconds because it's like that big of a gap dispand now, oh wow, I had like a foot on Kalin, don't you oh foot and a half? Yeah, no way, Yeah, I'm six six. I'm six six. She's five ft. Yeah. Oh he's lying. Don't believe him. He's six to I'm six two. She's like five six, So I guess I

got what eight? I'm five four. I would have imagined you being taller, really yeah. Looking at you, I would have been like, I think you're like five seven, five eight. Heck yeah, I would. I would love to be five seven or five eight. It's like my dream height. It's weird how guys on TV look shorter and girls on TV look taller. It's wacky. I feel like I just look weird at heck on TV. Yeah, how come? I

don't know. I think it's just like an actual representation of what I look like when I'm talking, and I hate it instead of you envision in your head. Yeah, I realized on The Bachelor, actually how much I throw my head back and give myself a double chin, especially when I'm laughing and stuff. And so I had to be very attentive about that because I try not to, you know, realize cameras are around. But I'm also like, okay, jawline snatched because I can't. I can't look like what

I did on The Bachelor. That was that was crazy. On the top of your mouth always, That's what I always tell myself whenever we're taking on the top of mouth, you put your tongue on the roof of your mouth? Are you serious? Yeah? But Jared doesn't need help with his jowl and he's already got Crimson chin. So yeah, but dude, And now I'm getting like I have that dad life, you know. So now I'm like, don't work out as much I need. I need. I need as

much help as I can get so the tongue. Wait a minute, so you're telling me if I put my tongue to the top of my mouth, it will make my neck look smaller. Yea, like halfways swallow though. Yeah, you're like, it cuts off your gullet area. And for normal people like myself and possibly hunt there, it's a it's an area that you see in photos that you're like, Man, I just wish that was a little more, you know a little more. Now I'm I'm getting I'm getting a hang of it. It's tough to smile and do that

at the same time because I'm like, it's tough. I feel like I'm doing exercises over here. Yeah, well, Jared, you keep practicing. Man, you look at the hang of it. Um, is there anything else you want to talk about before we say goodbye? We do have a headline that we wanted to get to. Uh it's a sad headline that we just actually found out. So the headline is from Diana Stagliano, which I think I'm saying that properly. So Diana was a former bachelorette. She married Um, actually a

contestants brother from the bachelorette. So this guy, Michael Stagliono was on the Bachelorette and he's been on a couple other seasons. Great, great guy, super awesome guy. I've been up a couple of times. I've met his brother, Stephen, their twins. Funny story, so I've met Michael Michael Stagliano. He was a contestant on the Bachelorette. I met him at some event and fast forward like six months later.

It was Tanner and Jade's wedding and and what I thought was Michael was there, this guy sitting at the bar, and I'm like, oh, I didn't know Michael Stagliono was gonna be here. So I walked up to him, like, hey, bro, what's going on. And he's like, oh, hey, what's up man? I said, no, nothing much like good Senior, blah blah blah. And he goes, oh, I'm I'm not Michael, and I said,

and this guy's like bulbus. I'm like, oh, dude, shut the hell off, get out of here, and he's like no, I swear to God, I'm I'm Michael's twin brother, Stephen, And I said, shut the hell off, get out of here, and he goes, I swear to God. So we had a conversation for a good four minutes where I asked him to bring out his license and I said, I need to see your license right now because I don't believe you. And he brought out his license. And Michael

has a twin brother, Stephen, who married a bachelorette. I don't know how they met, I forget, but it was Stephen was never on the show. I don't know how him and Dianna met Deanna. Uh and Steven announced that they are getting a divorce, which is very sad, uh It says. This is the quote from Diana. It is with immense sadness that Steven and I have decided to

end a relationship as a couple. We've been working hard for a long time, both as a married couple and as individuals, and have come to the conclusion to remain separate. We remain loving parents who are beautiful children Addison Austin, and will continue to raise them together with love and faith. We ask you to respect our privacy during this difficult

time as we navigate the new normal. We want to thank our dear friends and family for your endless support and many many prayers during what has become the most difficult time of our lives, So that's very sad. Diana Stagliano and Steven Stagliano have announced that they're getting divorced, which means another bachelor couple has bit the dust. This one's sad because they've been married for quite some time.

I mean they've had to be married for at least like six seven years at the minimum, and they've had they have two it's together, so anytime you involve kids, that really makes the divorce even more difficult. So that sucks. Any thoughts out there on this podcast, I've never met them. Breakups are always sad, but I don't know these people personally, so it's just a break up to me. I know, that's all I got. That's all I got. Hunted. Do

you know these people? I do not, but that is heartbreaking, and I I agree adding children to the mix is always just an extra bit of heartbreak. So you guys, ever hear that Lucy case get I think Jared we've talked about this before, the Lucy case Get where he goes. I don't know why everyone is out. And this is me poorly paraphrasing, obviously, because I don't know why everyone is always bummed about other people getting a divorce. It's like, no one ever got a divorce because they didn't want

to get a divorce. You get a divorce because you want to get a divorce, And like, both people are happier getting the divorce, So you should be happy for the people that get the divorce when you were if you were cheated on though, and you didn't want something to So it will be better for one of the two, I mean, maybe not both. Maybe. I mean I feel I don't feel bad for them. I mean it sucks obviously, but I feel more bad for the kids because you know,

come from they get two Christmas. Now they do get to Christmas is but idn't look at all the bright side of things. Yeah, I mean that's a positive way of looking at it. No, I'm just kidding. I feel that with the kids as well. But now they get too happy parents. And you know, I don't know how old are the kids? Does it say? Uh? It does not.

I would imagine I think they're pretty young. Um, because I actually went to their house a few years ago, um when I was living in l A. And I think they were both pretty like young at that point. So I can't imagine that they're more than like five six mm. Well, on that positive note, let's go ahead and wrap up this episode of Help I Second Dating Hunter. Thank you so much for joining us. We appreciate it. Sorry for um all the hard hitting questions, you know.

Thanks for having me. Yeah, it was a pleasure. It was nice to get to know you better. It was nice to hear about your Disney times and your ibs and your Bachelor in Paradise experience and your ex and you don't don't chase a ping pong ball, fellas, don't chase the ping pong ball and drive away? Very cool. Whenever you're done with the date, do you think hypothetical scenario if the guy that you're talking to now and you go separate ways, do you think that you would

ever go back on Bachelor in Paradise? Oh for sure. Yeah. First at first it wasn't maybe, And now I'm like absolutely. I love that you were like, yes, I would, because so many people come on here and they're like, who, I don't think? So I think I'm done, and it's like why why I'm determined to find my person? I'm determined. M So let's hope this guy that you're texting is your person and he drives away, all cool, and he's really good at bowling, and he what is the other one? Um,

doesn't chase, doesn't chase the pink pong ball. That's right, that's right, that's right. I don't think he would. So we're we're good on the pink pong ball. So that's good, good step in the right direction. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Well, thank you so much for joining us. Big thank you to our listeners out there for listening this week. Be sure to follow Hunter's journey on her instagram. Um, what else do you what else do you do? Do you do? Do you do TikTok or anything that I am definitely

on TikTok? Yeah? Nice, big TikTok. Do do you tweet? Do people still tweet? Yeah? I usually live tweet bachelort related stuff though. Nice. Okay, I'm not so for the listeners out there, follow Hunter on Instagram, TikTok, tweeter, and probably a couple other apps that I am neglecting to mention right now. Only fans I don't know, I don't know who knows who knows? These days? Yeah yeah, be sure to tune in next week where maybe we suck

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