Naked and Afraid

nine am, you dedicate the entire morning. Listen. My point is I don't get anything done until after that's all taken care of. And this is we're still in that pre like you know, pre phase right now. There are mornings like mornings that I have to run around and then I don't end up going, and then because I hold it in, I don't go till later that night. My whole day's ruined. It's ruined. Well it's too elad for me to say it's ruined, but I can feel

it festering within me right now. Um So, if I get at the Lancey, if I get a little crabby at all during this episode, just realized that I'm withholding a lot of things. Well, I mean, hey, full disclosure, this is a podcast. You can turn your video off and just do what you need to do. I mean, no, the audio would have to be off. I would like to burn the computer afterwards. There's a lot that would

have to go into that. I appreciate it. I appreciate the advice that you're trying to work with me with. In fact, Klinklin, Um, I I don't not the only one. Let's just let's just stay on the subject to number two is for a little bit, I know, not the only one, Um that takes maybe like abnormally long time in the bathroom. Do you take a long time in the bathroom? Oh yeah, Ashley always as she'll she'll knock sometimes, which makes me so angry. She knows that I'm just

on my phone own and that's listen. I'm a dad. Now, I have an excuse. I am on the toilet for forty five minutes because it's it's my well maybe not forty five minutes is dramatic, but twenty minutes, which feels like forty five minutes when you're in the bathroom, but I'm that's my quiet time. I have the fan on, so there's ambient noise. So it's just it's I literally turned into a baby. When we put Dawson in the crib, we play white noise because it makes him feel like

he's in the womb. That's the bathroom fan to me, I go in from the bathroom fan on just kind of like zone out, take a breather, I have a moment to myself. There's no noise. It's great and uh and then Ashley always just god damn it. She'll just like, come not and she'd be like, you okay in there. You've been in there for a while. And I'm like, Ashley, do we have to go through this constantly? Just I'll be right out. I'll be out. It's great too, because

it's like I'm a grown person. Of course I'm okay. Like if if I wasn't okay, I would scream for help or something like that. It's it's good to know that I'm not alone in this fight because kay Lynn Um it's always given me crap for how long I am and she she used to give me a lot of craps. She's learned to accept the fact that I'm gonna be in there for thirty minutes. Um. And every time I hear and a guy like say that they're in a similar situation as me, it always like vindicates

me a lot, you know. Like I was watching a shark tank the other day and Mark Cuban was like, listen, if you're not on the toilet for long enough for your legs to fall asleep, you're doing it wrong. And I was like, Mark Cuban is speaking my love language right now. Um. So, like I said, it always indicates me a little bit. But let's number two. If you want unlet's you want to stay on it. No, no, no,

just one last comment. It's really funny to me how long sometimes I take at home and then how quickly I do my business in a public bathroom, especially if it's a one stall bathroom. When I walk in there, it's like, okay, dude, I'm not joking. I still have a little bit of insecurity about going the bathroom. When

even I'm married, it doesn't even matter. But when girls are near the bathroom, I'm like, oh Jesus, if I blow this thing up and it stinks, and they know, like I walk out smells and they just look at me, and I'm like, you know, what happened. Like, I'll just go cry myself in the office because the thing is at Audrey's full disclosure. It's a one stall bathroom and I'm there all the time, right, so sometimes you know, I gotta do my business. So I go in there

and there's only tables like four ft away. I'm like, so dude, Like, I'm like, okay, if I do this quickly enough, they'll just think I'm peeing, and I do. I do the double flush, Like I'll go in there, do my business, flush, then you know, proceed with the wiping and then flush again. You know, try to get the smell away as quickly as possible. Gotcha, got you? Yeah, that's that's a good style, a good method. I'm a

single flusher personally. It's it's the worst two is when you go and expecting it to be quick and then you know, fast forward twenty minutes later, you're you've made the line of twenty people out the door, and then you have to do the walk of shame when you when you leave the back and you see the door handle jiggling and you're like, Jesus God, just please go away far away. Yeah, yeah, I help, I suck it.

Go into the bathroom in a timely manner. Um. Anyways, especially episode for everyone out here today Jared and I, well, Jared watched a little snippet of a TV show, Naked Attraction. We're gonna talk about the craziest I've have no pun intended. I've ever seen this show. I don't know when it airs, I don't know where it airs. I just saw it. Our producer texted it to us, and I watched it, and I can't stop thinking about it. So we're gonna

talk about that in a second. Beyond that, we got some emails, we've got some headlines, and it's just gonna be us today, today, this week, it's just gonna be the two boys. We've exhausted every single girl that wants to come on this podcast. It's because we couldn't get girls that would want to talk about poop and naked attraction with us. So we're not even three months into two and we're already out of guests. The new format was fun all lasted, um, but it was doomed from

the start. Let's be honest, alright about this Naked Attraction. So so one of the producers for our show, well, our boss pretty much. She texted us. It was like, check out this new show. It's called Naked Attraction, talked about on the podcast because I think it's a good content and this happens routinely obviously, and uh so I was like, all right, cool, let me, you know, watch an episode of let's see what it is. Because they only sent us one episode. I don't even think it's

aired yet. Um dude, So this show, it's called Naked Attraction. It's like The Bachelor or Bachelorette meets Naked and Afraid, except there is no black box. There is no blurring of anything. I don't know if this is the way it's gonna go when it's nationally broadcasted. So apparently it's gonna air on Channel four. I don't know where this is. It's got to be in the UK. They all had accents, so it has to be in London. And so the show is listen. It was one dude and it was

I think eight women. Bro. So they're behind this box so you can't see them, and then he talks about you know, what he's looking for and a girl physically, emotionally, all these things, and what it is is you judge someone by how good they look naked. I'm not joking. So the box, So they're in a box, and then it's like, okay, raise so we can see the lower half of their body. Dude, the box rises up to their waist. You see everything. I'm not joking. Every vagina

is out there just to the world. And he's looking there talking about him. He's like, oh, yeah, you know this one. You know I could tell by you know, the way her legs look, she's good shape, or like, oh I like someone with curves. And they're just talking outwardly about this while all these women's vaginas are out in the open. Dude, it's insane. When when it raised, I was like, okay, it's they're gonna be in bathing suits or it will be blurred out like on Naked

and Afraid. Nope, you see everything. And dude, when you see a vagina, just a vagina, like from the waist down, no full body, it's listen, it's obviously attractive, but it's like you're definitely not like it's not a turn on, you know what I mean. I mean, you're just looking at the lower half of the body. And you know what's funny is that I found myself watching this show thinking, Okay, I guess what what do I like? Because dude, they were describing in detail like it was crazy because like

obviously summer, how do I phrase this? Um? You know how like a belly button hasn't any or an outing? Hm, well, I think that that might also pertain two different parts of the body. And they were talking about that, and then I thought about in my head, like what do

I prefer? Uh, it was crazy, and then like he eliminates two women based on that, and then they raise it up and then they walk out and hug and the woman is fully naked, so he sees like what he lost out on and then they then the girls like the next round, they turn around so you see their butts and like he's like talking like, oh, this one is like I really like this one, dude. It's

so crazy. And then of course, like they raise it up to their neck so you see you know, boobies, and then you know, finally he gets down to like the final person and then he chooses one and then it gets lifted and you see the whole face and you see what he picked. And then they do this for guys too, because in in the previews because this episode was just about a guy with like eight women, but the previews the next one is one woman who

picks the guys and there's like eight dudes. Dude, just penis everywhere out and about flagellent penis, as Eastern put it earlier, just hanging out out in the wind. Crazy. I gotta be honest with you, Jared, Um, I lied to you, and I didn't mean to lie to you, But I have seen the show before. UM, so I appreciate you explaining it to everyone out there because the

listeners needed to hear that, because it's pretty crazy. Um. And the reason I've seen the show is my buddy produces television in London, funny enough, and when I was out there visiting, he was like, you got to see this show. It's the craziest thing in the world. And it legitimately is one of the craziest shows I've seen on TV. Because you're right, it's like, hey, you're seeing way more than you're used to seeing, Like, like, well,

who's the audience, you know what I mean? Like, I guess people like us, Like what if a kids just randomly scrolling through the channels and they pop on channel four and allmus and they see a big penis in their face. But how can Channel four not blur this? That's my question because we got, you know, an advanced copy or whatever you want to say. We didn't watch it on cable, so like on cable, is everything gonna

be blurred out? Because that makes the world. You know, America was founded by a bunch of prudes, right, I think that they're just a lot more free with their sexuality over there. Yeah. Maybe. Um, Jared, I've got a question for you that Hannah eloquently wrote in the chat. Would you be able to tell whether or not you'd be attracted to someone just by looking at the lady parts? No? M absolutely not, no way, because I you know, listen, I love all lady parts, you know. Uh, And I'm like, no,

there's no way. All right, Hannah pop up here for a of course. Second, would you, as a woman, if you went on this show, do you think you would be able to tell how attractive someone was just by seeing their penis? No, I'd be disgusted. Yeah, penises are disgusting. Yeah. I just think I think it's really interesting because it's the complete opposite of Love is Blind, which is super popular right now, where people get married without even seeing

each other. And this is the complete opposite, where people pick their person based on just what they see. So I don't know what I'd rather do. Probably love is blind A thousand percent love is blood. I might this might be pretty um ignoring to me to say, but I do think, based off of basically no information and and no forethought before saying this, that it is easier to tell whether you'll be physically attracted to a woman by looking at her bottom half than it will be

I'm looking at a man's lower half. You know, I think a woman's lower half is more indicative of their upper half than a man's lower half is. I also think, you know, obviously we're two straight white men, so we're obviously attracted to women. But I agree with you. I do think a woman's body is much more beautiful than a man's body. Well, that's not what I'm saying, That's that's what I'm saying. I'm saying the lower half is more telling of what the upper half will look like.

The men's lower half is telling to addict you. But I think you learned you could you could make a more accurate guess by just seeing the girl's lower half than you could the guy's lower half. I listen, I'm a somewhat secure man, like I feel like I'm not you know, I feel like I have certain physical good qualities about me that I'm confident about. But dude, if somebody was judging me by my lower half, do you know, Harry,

my thighs are Yeah, That's what I'm saying. Like, it's just I remember there was a there was a group date on our season of The bachelorrette it was a sumo wrestling date, and the guys that went on the date had to wear these pretty much thongs, and uh, dude, I remember Ben and I were looking at each other

and we're like, if we I'm not joking. Both of us were like, if we get picked on this date, like we have to, we're gonna shave each other's asses in the next five minutes because then we cannot go on national television. Hannah literally just dropped after. So you're proving my point for me because I'm in the same boat as you. I'm not as hairy as you, um, but I have my faults as well, I would say, from from the waist down. Jared in my opinion, you're

a two. From the waist to the nipples, you're probably a four. But from the nipples up you're you're a hard tent. From the nipples up, you're a hard tent, in my opinion. I I'm not maybe to that same degree, but I'm close. You know, I'm like an eight tow down to the nipples and then a five down to the waist, and then it's a one from there down. And that's my point is I would still consider us

generally conventionally attractive guys. If you always saw our lower half of our bodies, you would never guess that because the lower half of our bodies are disgusting. Yeah, I almost want someone like yourself to go on this show, so you know, because I'll tell you what. We can have our own little fake show right now. See I just in zoom, just venue man, just recording, dude. And also, like I give because I gotta be honest as a guy.

I haven't seen too many other guys penises. I'm gonna I'm not gonna lie like in everyday life locker room. You know, I played sports of my life, but it's never been like that, Like I've never you know, got like, uh, you know, been the locker room showered with other guys. So my point being is that the only other male genitals that I've really seen are from either porn or in these shows that the guy's got a ridiculous, ridiculous knob, Like what was that show, Hannah, Maybe you don't remember

what it was, where it was everybody paused. It came out like a year ago, and everybody paused sex life. That's right. There was like this whole thing on Instagram but like pause as episode one twelve minutes and thirteen seconds, and then I, being naive, saw this all over social media. It was like, all right, I gotta get you. I gotta see this, I gotta see what everybody's talking about. And it's literally just a dude in a shower with

like a thirteen inch flatshument penis. It was. It was, It's like crazy, So away, my point being is those are the only really other male genitals that I've seen. So as a guy, you know, listen, I'm confident in my area, but what are I what do I What am I saying? Oh? I said flash flacid? Thank you? Anyway,

I digress. This is a weird conversation, this is a weird podcast being let's just get down and dirty anyway, as a you know, listen, I'm confident in you know myself, having said that, there is no way in hell that if they were like, hey, listen, I want you to go on national television, just pull down your pants and then they're only going to see the bottom half of your waist, and then they're going to decide whether you're attractive or not or whether they want to date you. No,

are you out of your mind? I'm not that confident. So I actually give a lot of these contestants a ton of credit because it takes balls to be like, oh yeah, I'll go on national television. I'll have them only see from my waist down, and I feel good enough that they'll pick me. I think you have to be in order to go on the show. You have to be kind of like inherently an exhibitionist to the point where you're already showing a lot of other people

your exposed body. Because like, what is the pitch like for that show to be a contestant? You know, I can only like it would be I wouldn't do it either, But I don't think that we're necessarily the people that they're scouting to go on that show. I hope not like we talked about, nobody wants to see my bottom half, poor Ashley, right or maybe yeah? Yeah, I mean I wouldn't mind. I would mind taking a look, just like medical purposes, just to say curiosity. But no, I mean

I agree with you. I mean I'm on the same boat as you, Like, in my entire life, I've seen uh, you know, I would I would say I could count on my hands the number of penises that I've seen in real life, which which it might be high, I don't know, but I definitely I might need both hands, but I think I could get to the number at some point within my first two hands. So by that logic into what you're saying is like you see these

TV shows Tommy and Pamela. You see he's wearing like this prosthetic penis and it's granted, tom Uh, Tommy what's his name did have a big penis in real life and still does obviously, uh, but you're still you know, it's a it's a comparison, thig Tommy late, thank you for this. I want to know because Eastern keeps chiming into the chat, Eastern, I want to know your thoughts on this show. I feel like you might have some interesting ones. Being a fellow, uh you know person who

probably you know has a harry lower half. Well you wait, wait, wait wait wait wait can we Easton? I'm so sorry to interrupt you real quick. So this is interesting because this is kind of like a naked attraction flipped on its head, because we know what Easton looks like, and now you're guessing what the rest of his body looks like based off what you already know about, and so you're you're in versing the game a little bit. So

Easton's got a hairy lower half thousand percent. I would be shocked if he's uh, you know, like a baby's bottom down there. Okay, well I would love to let can we solve this this riddle for us? Wow? Um, I do have a very hairy lower half. H you know, you know it's interesting about my body hair and uh, Hannah get hrs here. Um My my hair is like it's almost like chaps like I have, Like it's the hair goes up my leg, up my thigh and then

like there's like weird hairless patches. Around like my upper thigh, and then it goes back up a little little patch on the back nothing and then a tank top up here and then nothing on the arms and on the back. It sounds like my face right. I wish it would connect. I wish I had that cool like you know, just like rug of chest hair and like so you were like a full Austin powers. I do I do. I really want that really badly. I don't know why you

don't have that. And this is this is purely conjecture, um, and it's probably entirely wrong. But I have similar issues, not issues, because they're not the issues. We're still perfect the way that we are. UM. I've noticed that if I where the hairless spots on my body are where like clothing would rub often, you know what I mean, That's what I thought. I've worn tight pants for a good amount of my adult life, and uh yeah, that's probably like where the pockets rub, where the red the

rest of the jeans are rubbing. UM. But I do have I am a harry person, Jared, that's a fair guess. I just you know, I I you know, as a hairy person myself. I wh I I can tell when somebody's like me, Hannah, I have a question for you as a as a as a woman. Uh, do you like hair on a guy's chest? I don't like a guy to have no hair, but not super hairy. Well yeah,

I mean there's a nice little balance there. But I always think of Henry Cavill because there is a shot in Man of Steel because he plays Superman where he's running with his shirt off, and I want that exact out of hair on my body. Oh it's I gotta send. It's pretty good. I'm so excited. Like his chest and then everywhere else is basically a hairless that's point. Yeah,

that's the question. So would you rather have let me ask you hunt, if you had to pick, would you rather have someone who's hairy or someone with no hair? Both like same guy, same body, you know, the exact body you want and there, and there's just no one between. It's there's no one between. It's like, hey, he's hairy all over, or he's got nothing, well not nothing, it's just one side of the spectrum. On the other come on nothing. Oh god, I feel like hairless is too creepy,

So probably I would. I would consider myself hairless compared to you guys at least, and I would say if I was attracted to men, I would be more attracted to men with less hair. Yeah. But picture a guy with no hair, no leg hair. A guy with no leg hair. That creeps me out. I mean I'm offended because I have a very little leg hair. Yeah, but you will you have some leg hair. Oh sure, Well

that's why. That's why I'm trying to to rain in Jared's crazy um proposition here, because no hair is ridiculous. What are you just a giant what's the other side of that? Just the giant hairball. I've hair all over my face, yeah, all over my hands, yeah, from the Adam's family. Yeah, guys, look like this is this is the game right here. You have it. It's either all

in or nothing. No, I think the spectrums would be like I would be more on the hairless side of the spectrum, and then you would be more on the You're not even that hairy, I don't think me. No, I mean I'm not super hairy. I think super hair. I think I might actually change my answer to hairless because I don't want the guy I'm with to have like a hairy butt crack, yes see, and this is all I wanted to I wanted. I wanted six us for the hairless people in life, because like hair on

my guy's toes, yea, I'd be weird. I sometimes I think about making out with my guy friends and which ones I would enjoy making out with most. And when I write daydream about making out with my hairy friends, I always and it happens. I always think about how annoying the prickliness of their beards would be on my face. And so kudos to your partners for being able to

tolerate that. That's got to be brutal. It's so brutal, you know, Like I kissed Dawson all the time on his cheeks and I've noticed he's got like little red marks, and Ashley's like, that's because of your stupid prickly beard. Stupid, welled, stupid. I added stupid for dramatic set. But my point being is that I don't I look better with a little

facial hair then I do clean shaven. So the problem becomes Hanna, let me ask you this, would you rather have a guy who looks better with a five o'clock shadow? But your face is getting all scruffed up because it's you know, prickly against your skin. Or would you rather just say, hey, clean shaven and then let me enjoy,

you know, playing a little toalnsil hockey with you. Well, I feel like clean shaven, but I feel like I'm biased because when I was a kid, like my dad would always have like whiskers and he would never be able to like kiss me on the cheek or anything. So I break out in hives. Wow, like I've really sensitive skin. So definitely nothing. So that's an easy answer

for you. But also that also beckons and another question opens a Pandora's box of would you rather be uh, look at someone and be attracted to them or would you rather like functionally be like, would you rather practical relationship or you can kiss your partner, or would you rather to like look at them and be like, wow, he's really hot? You know. Oh that's such a hard question. I mean I think the answer is obvious. Clean shaven,

no question, practical. Yeah. Listen, if if I'm going to make out, like I said, with any of my guy friends, they got to be clean shaven before we go in for the kiss. Who's your number one? If you've put so much thought to this. Oh, I don't. I don't want to rank them, you know, I don't want to put anyone against each other. It's just like in general, maybe like we're all out together and we're all just making out with each other at times. Um, just regular

just regular guy things, you know, understandable. Yeah, prompts a lot of questions, doesn't it. Yeah, you know what, maybe we'll say those questions for another time. We're gonna take one quick break. We got we've got some great dating headlines to get to that. I know Jared's really chomping on the bit to get too, So I think we're just gonna go ahead and put you guys out of your misery for this segment, because we've covered a lot, a lot, a lot, and we need to really decompress here.

So we're gonna take one quick break and we will be right back. What's going on, everyone, and welcome back to help I suck at dating. I'm going to step away for um, twenty seconds literally twenty seconds while you feel a cup of coffee jar, and we just take

over and we can jump into these dating headlines. Of course, the next dating handline is something about a new dating show, which I'm interested in because it comes with singles from the other reality shows Too Hot to Handle, Love is Blind, and actually a few more so Netflix and Kinetic content. Now Kinetic is actually very near and dear to my heart. So Kinetic produced a YouTube mini series, a YouTube show, uh that Dean was also on that It was called

what Now. It was with me, ash Nick Tanner and Jade and kind of revolved around our lives like what we're doing now. And Kinetic is the one that produced it, and we have so many good friends, and there's such a great production company, and they have obviously also done Love is Blind, and they also do Married at First Sight. They are awesome, So anything that they produced I'm all

in for. So they're teaming up with Netflix, um and they announced a new reality show that's coming soon, not sure exactly when, but it's featuring stars from Too Hot to Hand, Endill, Love is Blind, The Circle Selling Tampa, and actually a few more reality shows. So it goes like the singles from Netflix reality shows have done obviously some crazy things to find love, but they're still single.

In this new series that's coming out between Kinetic and Netflix, they will couple up to match each other and find themselves in hopes of finding the perfect match. So they're gonna couple up to match each other, uh and hoping to find the perfect match. Now, it's currently untitled, but like we said, it's going to be um from Kinnectic Kinetic Content, which does Love is Blind. So Nick Lash

is actually gonna host this show as well. Uh and so the cast has not been revealed, but the announcement actually came I love this with the music video, a nod to Nick Lash degrees days. God damn I miss music videos. Man. Did you ever watch like, what was it trl's Top twenty? No, dude, what you didn't watch that? What was it? Like? It was either tr ls v one or MTV they did their top twenty music videos of the week music video dude, hell yeah, and they

played every music video. I remember in two thousand in q uh it was what's that song from Spider Man? Oh my god, Easton will know this but anyways by Chad Kroeger and that music video was in like the top twenty for like thirty weeks. And I used to watch every Sunday morning the Top twenty music video, so I could just watch that music video because they had clips of Spider Man in there, and I loved Spider

Man so much. And this was before the Internet, before I could just go on YouTube and watch the trailer a million times or watch clips. So the only time I ever got to watch clips of Spider Man before he came out into DVD, when it was still in theaters, was watching that music video. And bro, when I tell you, every Sunday morning, I would be there and a watch every single music video. This was also the same time when Beyonce's Crazy and Love was out, so like I

remember watching Once is Crazy and Love music video. I remember watching the Hero music video by Chad Kroeger. God, those are such a good time. Anyway, television was actually music television, and now it's gone off the rails and done sound a little thing. Right now it's all about just naked people. Uh so let's see. So what are

your thoughts about this new show? Um? Obviously, so it's about these singles from previous reality television shows are going to couple up to match each other and themselves in hopes of finding the perfect match. So the way I'm viewing this, it hasn't been like officially announced exactly how

this is going to go down. But I would imagine that, like people from Too Hot to Handle, our people from Love Love Is Blind are going to get together and try to play hitch will also find love for themselves. M yeah, I um, I don't know how to feel about this. I guess it'll be It'll be interesting to

see the familiar races. What I've noticed though, when I've watched these shows more specifically, like Love is Blind and Too Hot to Handle Who Like, both of those shows were basically overnight successes when it came to like the dating streaming shows on Netflix, they blew up so big the first year. Granted, we were all in our homes for so long, so maybe that had a big play into it. But first seasons were good, and then every

season after that has gotten progressively worse. And so that's why I'm skeptical about this show, because I feel like, seeing how successful those shows were in their first seasons, then contestants come in expecting, like, you know, all of this fame and notoriety and stuff, and so they acted a different type of way and it just like seems so unauthentic to me, and I can't buy into it. And so that's just kind of what I'm expecting more

of with this show, maybe like even on steroids. You know. Yeah, it's kind of like Bachelor ever since Instagram blew up, like every contestant now it's like you're just you know, you feel like a majority of them are just going on to try to gain Instagram followers. But like five six years ago, that wasn't a thing, right, And I mean, what we I'm not gonna say we did the same thing, but we obviously were able to accumulate, like we have

this podcast because of the show. We're incredibly grateful for it. Um. I like to think we got out the perfect time. I would I would if we were still going to Bachelor Nation filming show is not like in a hosting capacity, but like as it contested in all those things, Um, I would be a little disappointed in us. Thankfully that's

not the case. But I guess my point is, it's just it's just, yeah, it just seems like they're trying super hard to become like the next big influencer, you know, a thousand percent and no doubt that these people are doing the same thing, but you know, it would probably be entertaining for those purposes. Because they'll be crying in

drama and villains and heroes. The reason I kind of like this show is that one of the reasons why I like Paradise so much for Bachelor is it hooked, Like it brings people together that you thought would be a good match. Like how many times when a guy gets a eliminated or a girl gets eliminated online at Twitter and you're like, this person would be perfect with this person, Like, I'm sure it happened with you when

you got eliminated from Rachel's season. I'm sure you've got so many tweets or comments saying, Dean, you, you and so and so from the previous season would be so perfect for one another. And then you go down to Paradise and then you find out either you guys are a good match or you aren't a good match. So I'd be interested to find like, if there's somebody from like two Hot to Handle who's like, I think you'd

be perfect with this person from Love is Blind. And what's funny about that, too, is out of a hundred times, you're a bad match. So I do expect a lot of chaos and sewing from this show, because yeah, sure, maybe your friends have a good idea, but the people that spent a month on a TV show with you don't really have a very good idea. So I don't think it's gonna be I mean, it'd be entertaining, like you said, I think there'll be a lot of drama

and stuff, and I'll probably watch. I don't want to like, I'm not like disparaging the show or anything that. I watched a lot of Blind season two, and well, I think season one is better. I thought season two is still pretty good. I watched two Hot Handle season one. Season two got a little less good. I haven't watched season three yet, so I'm still watching these shows. I just I see like the that they're all handing it up for the cameras and so it just it turns

me off a little bit. But maybe this new show will be different because I don't know. Maybe they it's season one, so we'll see. That's true. Season one usually is the best season, so I guess we will find out. We do have a couple of emails that we want to get to you before we wrap up Easton. If you wanted to read these emails, that'd be great because Mark's not here and um, you're our favorite number two? Oh thank you. Should we take a break before we get to the email real quick? I don't know what

you tell me? Well, normally we would, I would say our general format is segment break, segment break. Sure, so let's just take a quick break because we don't want to disrupt the flow. I know it's early for you, Jared. It's it's on the East Coast on a lot. The baby. It's the baby, that's what it is. I I can't speak out on the baby. It's more. We're gonna take a quick break. We're gonna be right back, Jared, take a quick nap. We'll get you on some email. All right,

welcome back. We're gonna get to these emails real quick. Um, not real quick. We're gonna take our time with him. Actually, why do I say that, Ethan? What you got for us? All right? This is from Amelia. My boyfriend of eight years has expressed he doesn't think that marriage is necessary. He doesn't feel that a piece of paper or a label changes anything. At first, this didn't bother me at all. But all my friends are getting married, and I never knew how much I wanted a wedding or to be

married until now. I have expressed that to my boyfriend, and he keeps reiterating that if we get married, it won't change our relationship or how he feels about me. My point is, if it doesn't change anything, then why not just get married. If it doesn't matter, then what difference does it make. I'm starting to worry that there are other reasons he doesn't want to get married. Is this a deal breaker? I know Dean feels similar to my boyfriend. Dean if Calin expressed this was a deal breaker,

would you get married tomorrow? How do I keep expressing how important this is to me? And if he isn't willing to get married, do I take that as a red flag? Uh? Well, I was the only unmarried man in this uh forum here. I I want to say the first red flag that I read when Amelia was writing this email, and it's a It's not like red, it's maybe like a light pink um. She says that first it didn't bother me that he didn't want to get married, but then all of my friends started doing it,

and so then I wanted to get married. And it's like, Okay, do you want to get married actually? Or do you want are you just jealous of your friends or you want to be included in the whole marriage ceremony with that your friends are all doing. That's that was one of my takeaways from that was it's like, do you want to do it or are you just jealous that your friends are all doing it and now you want to piece the action too. That being said, eight years

is a long time. And if you make it really clear to your boyfriend that you want to get married and he still doesn't want to get married, I do think that's a bad thing. I am in a similar boat as your boyfriend, Like, I don't really think marriage is that cool. I think it's cool to be with a person for your entire life. But uh, the whole concept of marriage has been taken. Uh, I don't know, it's taken a weird tangent not not to speak down in marriage because you guys are married, and I love

obviously your your matrimonies, honest stuff. Um, that all being said, Kaylin and I will get married, and we're gonna get married not because I want to get married, but because she wants to get married, and because I love her, I want to be able to give her what she wants, and I think that's kind of like the long and short of it is like, if this guy loves you and wants to give you what you want, you make a good point like what's the difference. If he's saying

there's no difference, then what's the difference to him? And if you really want it, then why why should it make any difference to him? And that's kind of the realization I came to where it's like, I, yeah, maybe I don't want to get married, sure, but if Caylin wants it, Caylin wants it more than I don't want it, and because of that, we're gonna get married. You know what I mean. I think that's a great answer. It's exactly what I was thinking too, So I don't really

have much to add. I mean, I was in a similar vote to this dude, because like, like, my parents are divorced, Alison's parents are divorced. We don't have a great model of marriage for us, and so we're both like we don't want to get married, that's stupid. Our parents are miserable. But then we thought like, well, if it doesn't make a difference, we're gonna we want to

be use each other forever. Why not just do it? Unfortunately, in society, it is easier to do certain things like you know, buying a house and like insurance and things like that if you are married. So we figured why not. And it's been a lot of fun. And uh, I I don't know. I recommend it. I think it's a lot of fun. But the other important thing, at least from my point of view, is that I love Alison

so much. She's so much more of a catch than me, and I want to make sure if she wants to leave me, she has to find a judge in an attorney to do it has to be illegal. Yeah, that's smart, that's smart. And I'll tell you what he said. I'm I'm been in the same boat too as Because as time, time just moves in one direction, right, it always moves forward along that tangent of time. I am slowly getting

less and less appealing and less attractive. Kaylin, on the other hand, is getting more appealing and more So we're moving in opposite directions here, and I already started at a pretty big disadvantage. So this whole, this whole marriage stuff is really starting to look a lot more enticing for me because soon she's going to realize that gap is pretty substantial, and if we're not legally married, I think she'll have a lot easier way to like weasel her way out of it. And so that's probably gonna

happen because of that. Um that being said too, I I Jared, he talks a lot about this when you and actually first got married. I think it's gonna be. It just seems like a lot more fun to like talk to someone else about your partner and say my wife instead of my girlfriend. That just seems cool to me, you know, Yeah, I mean it is a lot cooler saying your wife. Yeah. I don't know. So for that reason alone, I'm like, sure, I'll freaking get married. I guess I want to be able to walk around and

say I've got a wife. And especially because I wear this ring on my finger, I know you're practically married anyway, you might as well just make it official. Yes, But I never know when I'm talking to someone that does that I've just met, or someone that works I don't know what a bank or something like that. I never know. To be like if I say my girlfriend and they see the ring on my finger and then they're gonna be like, oh, this guy's married, but he's also got

a girlfriend. This scum back or do I or do I then lie and say, yeah, my wife is in the car. I just gotta get her something real quick, because then I'm lying to them technically, you know, I would yeah. I don't want them thinking, yeah, I wouldn't want anybody thinking I have a girlfriend on the side, and then I just publicly admitting it. I'll lie, yeah, I know. It's it's a it's a thing. It's a dilemma that I'm faced without, and so a marriage is just the best way to kind of nipped in the

bud and uh, acts it all together. Or I could just take the ring off, but at this point, if I took the ring off, that'd be even I'd raise a lot more red flags about why did I take the ring off? So you should really tell Kalin why you want to get married when she asked you, why

do you want to marry me? And you say, well, honestly, babe, it's because every time I go to the fucking bank, they and every single time I have to say whether you're my girlfriend or a wife, and it's like, okay, never mind, I'll just marrier, for God's sake, because I go to the bank every every week. I can't keep doing this with my life. I go to the bank a lot. And it's funny too, actually, because this isn't

it's it happened to Klin as well. She started wearing a ring on her ring finger that looks like a wedding ring because she didn't like it looking like she was out with a married man. So then she started wearing a ring. Why don't we just freaking sign the paperwork that says really really married. The ring that you started wearing with the best intentions have has ended up just just being a nuisance? Right, Yeah? Can you believe that? It's like as if I didn't first see this or

I didn't plan for this to happen. I wore a fake wedding ring, and now all of a sudden, I gutas start telling people I'm married. This is crazy, such bullshit. All right, let's get to the second really quick. I I write the stupid descriptions for this podcast, and I can already imagine, Uh, Dean is taking off his wedding ring. Find out what this means for his future with Kalin. That's what that's going to say. Uh. This next one

is from Grace. I am twenty three years old and I just moved to Arizona from California for my job. I started dating my boyfriend about a year ago, and two months ago he decided to move to Arizona to be closer to me. That wasn't ever a discussion or I think he just assumed that I would want this. Don't get me wrong, it's super nice having him closer to me. But since we started dating, he has been losing friendships and sacrificing his relationships for me. I can't

help but feel responsible for this. Now that he has moved to Arizona, he doesn't really stay in touch with anyone anymore, and he's become part of my social group here. Everything with us is so intertwined, and he doesn't have his own friends or his own social life anymore. Of course, I want him to be friends with my friends I've made in Arizona, but it puts a lot of pressure

on me knowing my people are now his people. I am just looking for advice on how to navigate this and bring this up to him without hurting his feelings. Mm hmm uh. Grace First of all, thank you for listening to the podcast. It would appear to me, though, that maybe you don't want to date this guy. I mean this, this guy moved closer to be with you. He's trying to insert himself with your friends, which I think every partner wants. It was important to me I

wanted Ashley to become really close with my friends. Uh So, I don't really know what he's doing wrong, because it makes it sound like you didn't want him to move closer, which doesn't sound like the best for a healthier and mutually loving relationship. But I just think I don't know. I'm I'm kind of I'm kind of on the boyfriend's side. I'm sorry, Chris, I uh sorry. I did this girl in high school. Storytime, storytime, real quick. I did this girl in high school. Oh. I was madly in love

with first love of my life. I've talked about on this podcast a few times. For madly in love with this girl. She was the most popular girl in school. She was the coolest girl in school that I had ever met at the time. She she was dating this guy who is older than me, but so her and I were in the same grade. This guy was like two years older than us, once to the same school

and everything. Um, her and I were like really good friends, and I would go over to her house all the time to hang out like just as friends, you know, like as kids do like what I don't know, jump on the trampoline and that kind of stuff. And I remember her telling me, I'm going to call the guy. Let's call the guy Leo, just for you know, to keep docs to the names or to described the names.

So she would say, uh, Leo's blowing off his friends again to come hang out with me, or Leo canceled his plan to have all his friends come over, and he's like coming over to have dinner at my house tonight. And in the back of my head, I'm like, these sound like good things, Like he's canceling plans to hang out with you, like he's making you a priority. And she goes, no, I don't want you to cancel your plans. I don't want you to like blow your friends off

to hang out with me. And for some reason that like it was like literally one thirty second interaction that I had with this girl when I was fifteen years old that has always stuck with me because I agree like I don't want I don't want you to drop everything and come hang out with me, you know, like I want you to have your own life, your own social life, your own like priorities and things. I don't want you to like at the drop of a hat come and rush to my side and blow all your

friends off. And I don't know why. I don't know why this girl that I was friends with at the time saying that I stuck with me so much even on now and thirty years old, literally half of my life fifteen years later. Um, but it did. It made sense to me in the sense where I was like, yeah, like, have your own stuff going on, and don't just uh lean so heavy on the relationship. I don't know. Is that weird? Not weird at all, Totally get it. There's a balance to be had. Having said that, did her

and Leo end up lasting? Uh No, she broke up with him three months later and then he started dating shocking. Uh So My point being is that maybe if you don't want someone inserting themselves into your life more, it's because you don't want them to be a part of your But now there's a balance. Of course, you don't want somebody too clinging, or someone who only wants to be with you and has no part of their own life.

But like with Grace's example, I mean, she moved from California to Arizona and her boyfriend, where they've dated for a year, decided to move closer. It's not like he moved in with her. He moved closer and he's trying to insert his like. I guess my question it is, what's the alternative? You know, this guy doesn't move closer, he doesn't want to be friends with your friends. Isn't that far worse than what's going on right now? I think you nailed it on the head that Grace just

does not really like the guy very much. Because if your head over heels in love with the guy, you're gonna be excited for all these things. But if you're on the fence and you're uncertain about your relationship, then they're going to kind of turn you off. Yeah. I don't know, so, Grace, you're twenty three, you're pretty young. I mean, I hope at last, I hope that you're madly in love and then you get married to this guy. But I don't know if you're concerned about him being

too much. Then I don't know, maybe it's time to look for something different. And for the record, Jared back to the Leo conversation real quick. Yeah, they broke up three months later, and then her and I started dating. But then nine months later, while we were still dating, found her back in bed with Leo, so there was still something there. Yeah, I mean this sounds like a her problem, not a Leo problem. Yeah. I appreciate that

I've developed a complex because of it. Slashed into adulthood. Um, as you can see, I put a lot of weight on the things she's told me when I was a sophomore in high tea. And yeah, it's crazy how certain things just stick with you, isn't it Like the most random, miniscule thing ends up like changing your perception on life? Oh definitely. And this conversation isn't even the last time. For the first time I've thought about that conversation like it.

It doesn't happen often, but it happens way more than a one off conversation should that you have when you're fifteen years old. I think about it way more than I should. Lingers, how old I am? Um? All right, Well, that's gonna do it for this week's podcast, Uh Dean amazing as always. Thank you to Amelia and Grace for emailing us. Please keep emailing us, you sucky daters. You can email us at I Suck a Dating at iHeart Media dot com. Of course, follow us on Instagram where

help I Suck a Dating. Uh, I mean, check out Naked Attraction when it comes out. You got. I'm curious what everybody's thoughts about this show are going to be, because it's it's out there. Hey, what are you doing for the rest of the day. I just I got you here. Let's have a quick chat. So you're at home, you're not in You're not in the coffee shot. I'm I'm leaving to go to the coffee shop after this. Okay, were you there this morning and then you just took

like a lunch break or something. No, no, no, no no, So I'll go in after it. So I'm closing tonight, so I'll be there until like probably like midnight. Do you think you uh spend more time at the coffee shop than anyone else? H yeah? Oh employees, yeah, oh a thousand percent. I mean I'm there like sixty right now. I'm probably there between sixty and seventy hours a week. So but what do you fill your time with? Like are you are you working the counter all those hours? Yeah,

so I work. I mean I do whatever I need to do. I mean I obviously do a lot of administration work. So you know, everybody that goes in wants to talk to me just as the owner, you know, I'm and also being from the show and having a little bit of a I don't want to say celebrity status, but I don't know how it's a phraser right now. You know, people come in and they're like, hey, is Jared.

Here's Jared here, and they either they're fans of the show and they want to talk to me or there you know, other small businesses that are like, hey, we have this wine product, we'd be interested in you selling it. But then also just doing a ton of you know, administrative work with just running a business, which takes so

much time. But then also while I'm there, you know, making sure that customers are happy and employees are happy, and you know, being behind the counter and making coffee or making drinks or going in the kitchen and making food or prepping or washing dishes or sweeping or doing whatever I need to do to make sure that the business is afloat. So that's kind of what I do

when I'm there. It's crazy, it's all over the place, and it's so I know you're I don't named a lot of drinks after um like bachelor euphemisms and and even contestants. I think, right, what's the most popular Who's got the most popular drink? So we don't have any contestants. But damn, that's a good idea. We really should start get into that. I thought there was like the Ben or like the Nick. Uh No, we were joking about how we should name drinks from people like Nick's would

be just like a plain black coffee. Uh, that's all, mind would be. Come on, No, you have more flavor, You've got more. We gotta give Nick a plain black coffee. I think Nick should be like, uh like nine pumps of almond milk and one pump of espresso. All right, I can do that. I like that. Uh so one of ours. So we carry Generous coffee, which is Ben's coffee, and his dark roast is called the Higgins. He named

it after him, the selfish son of a bitch. Uh. It's literally called the Higgins but it's also a really good marketing employee. Obviously. But we have so some of our specialty drinks. One is called the Rose Ceremony. We also have a Trip to Paradise. And then my favorite drink name is take a Moment, Say You're Goodbyes. So that's always fun. When what does it like, take a moment, say You're goodbyes. That's the name of the drink. So people were like, I'll take a small hot um, take

a Moment? Sare your goodbyes? Like, yep, do you want whole milk on the milk? Do you just like the name of it or do you actually like the coffee that is? I mean I like all of them. My favorite, probably the most popular one is the most dramatic Moca ever, because moke is just really popular. It's a coconut and it's a coconut moca ice latte. Um. I was gonna say, you guys do ice drinks? Oh yeah, so we have ice, We have ice hot obviously, we do beer one and liquor.

Our food is really good. We have a preciot o brie and a rugless sandwich that's pretty bomb. Have you introduced aawston to the coffee shop yet. Yeah, he's been there a couple of times. He was there for trivia Wednesday night, so because Ashley came and so she has a little carrier for him, so she just walks around and he's question, this might be this is just so random, and I'm I'm just brain farting everything out right now.

Let's say you and actually are out with Dawson and uh, a fan of the show comes up and sees you, guys wants to take a photo. Do you Is Dawson in the photo or is it kind of like one of those things where he's not in the photos. I mean, if we're holding him, then yeah, he's in the pod. Okay, that's I mean, yeah, yeah, I guess we haven't really thought about that. Well. Some people are like really like particular, like you can't take a picture of my baby, you know. Yeah,

I guess that. No. I mean because we've posted on Instagram and things of that nature, so like people know what he looks like. But he's doing well, he's awesome. He's starting to smile, which is really cool. Uh. He

laughs in his sleep. Sometimes he has like a little bit like yesterday I was holding him and he was definitely dreaming of something, and he had like a little bit of a uh not like a full belly laugh, but he was like a and it would just lasted for a second, but it was really cool saying, uh, and when he smiles, you'res just you'res watching him sleep at this point. Uh. Sometimes, well, when we're feeding him,

you know, because he takes like it's crazy, man. I mean he takes like a half hour to finish a bottle because it's like, you know, he's sucking for a while and then he'll slow down and kind of like fade in and out, and then you have to burp them and you know, so it takes him about about half hour to finish five ounces. So people were like, oh, you just feed him and put him back to bed,

and you're like, no, it's a fucking process. Um. So yeah, he uh So when I was feeding him and I took the bottle lot and he's kind of like in and out, and then he fell asleep for a second. So I was watching him and then I saw him like I saw his like lip like kind of twitching, and so I was like I always kind of like grinning, and then that's when he did like a full belly laugh.

And it was cool because as I was watching him, I've seen obviously baby pictures of myself, and when he smiled, he looked a lot like me as a baby, and that was really cool. Nice, that's pretty cool. Yeah, that was funny. Is he uh? I have known nothing about babies. Is he crawling around yet? Not yet? So we do tummy time, uh, to strengthen his neck because obviously his head is still very wobbily, but he's able to hold it up a little bit better now and it gets

progressively better with each day. So tell me. Time is something where we put him on his stomach and you kind of like put his arms underneath his chest, almost like he's doing a plank, and then like he holds his head up and like he just you know, it's the cutest thing ever. Man. Uh. So he's not crawling yet, Um, I don't think. I don't think they start crawling until like I don't even know when six months, Like it's a while, I think, Um, but it's cool seeing the

little progressions. It's just gonna suck one day because it's so much fun and then one day he's just going to be a teenager and you're like, oh, God, just you were so much cooler as a kid. Yeah, but I bet you, I bet you when he becomes a teenager in fourteen years, you're gonna you're gonna have a different tune about it. Because we're obviously recording this podcast,

you know what I mean. You can, you can update us along the way, but I just be like, and I have no idea how, how or what it will be like, but I just be like, since you're gonna see him basically every single day, you basically well not

even know the difference. You know, like you're still probably gonna look at him and see that little baby that was just smirking in his sleep last night, you know, yeah, I mean we've noticed, we started noticing the difference though, because it's just you can tell that he's much bigger than he was a month ago. And even clothing. Clothing is obviously a very easy telltale sign. Like we're putting him in in onesies that he was wearing two weeks

ago and now it's tighter. You're like, oh, jess Us, like, I can't believe you're already growing out of clothes. Man. Have you actually uh like left him with your with with his grandparents at all, like done date nights or anything like that. Uh. Yeah, we went to go see The Batman. Was that like three whenever it first came out three weeks ago something like that. Uh, So my mom and dad watched him, which was really nice. Uh

and then they watched him. Oh, we had a watch party at Audrey's for the Bachelor finale that actually came to um and obviously I was there, so my parents watched him for that night, which is really nice. So it wasn't a date night but um, but we did have one day night where we get to go out and my parents watched him, and then we went out to dinner with two for Ashley's birthday. I forgot about that. That That was March six, so um and my parents

watched him then too. I'm sure it's gonna be nice for you guys will be able to step away and I have to worry about the baby for a couple of hours. Yeah. Oh, it's really nice. I mean, we miss him. All we do is talk about him. Now we are those parents. But um, but it is really nice to just be able to like, Okay, let's we can we can do things, you know, and not have

to worry because it is. It's crazy, man, like everything you know, it's just when he's home, when you're home with him, like he is such a priority for good reason that everything is just secondary. So you it's difficult getting anything done because he's always you know, you put him down for a few minutes and then he starts crying, so you gotta pick him up and feed him or you know, rock them, and then all of a sudden, like four hours go by and you're like, jeez, how

is it already two o'clock in the afternoon. I haven't done anything yet. Well, Jared, that's that's good man. I'm glad things are going well. Um. I got one question for you before we say official goodbyes or final goodbyes. What does a liar do after he dies? What does a liar do after he dies? I don't know. He continues to lie in the afterlife. Come on, it's a riddle from that man, Oh, what does a liar do? I don't know what's the answer. I don't remember. He

lies still, that's right. I just remember the line because it's from the trailer and it's so good, where he's like, if you are justice, please do not lie and then you know, how much do you think of the Riddler character? Did you like him? Yeah, he's good. I liked I liked Riddler. I thought he was a better part of

the movie. Um, you know Paul Dano. I. I thought there were moments um where I I understand what Paul dana was going for because he he wasn't just a psychopath, but he was also like very eccentric and sometimes kind of played him almost he wanted him to be a little funny. I think I didn't know, so there were moments where I was like, Okay, I'm not sure if I'm down with that. But overall I really enjoyed the character. But the problem was he wasn't in the movie as

much as I wanted him to be. It was like there was a good chunk in the middle for like an hour where just Riddler was not there. And I was like, Okay, let's what I don't know, what I don't understand, and help me understand this because after watching the movie, I liked the movie. Don't get me wrong, I in my head it seemed like the Riddler was

kind of a good guy. Well yeah, no spoilers, obviously, no spoilers but one of the themes of the movie that I really loved in Eastern I'm sure we'll agree with this is that, you know, Batman's conundrum in the movie is that I think he sees the Riddler's perspective and point of view because you know, throughout the movie and it's displayed in this This is not a spoiler, Riddlers. You know, he's angry at a lot of people and feel feels like the system has failed him, and I

think Batman doesn't disagree. And I think that's the conundrum because they were both like, you know, going after vengeance in a way. But well, that's the thing too. It's like the Riddler a lot of the things he's doing is like he's uh, you know, seeking out corruption, alleviating the corruption. And sure maybe his methods are uh, a little extreme, but he's basically doing exactly what Batman is

doing and wants to do. So, Like the whole time, I was like kind of confused because what the Riddler is doing is he's doing a good thing for the city of Gotham, you know, like he is helping rid the city of the corruption that it's dealing with. And like I said, his methods are very extreme, and maybe that's where Batman is like, Nope, sorry, not going to happen. But it just seemed like they were both working, they

were both working in different ways towards the same goal. Yeah, I mean, I think that's one of the reasons why I did really like the movie. Yeah, we're ending now. She's like, are you talking about Batman on the podcast? Yeah, Batman the Batman. The last thing I'll say about it is that one I agree with you, Dean, which is one of the reasons why I love superhero films if they're done right, because I do feel like the line between good and evil is pretty thin. You know, it's

closer than a lot of people think. They're like, oh, good guys on this end and the bad guys on this end, when really, you know, most of the time they're kind of like right next to each other and just one person is on the side of good and

the other person is on the side of bad. And good and bad can be perspective or point of view, and that's why I think one of the reasons why I love one of the reasons why I did really like this film is that they do really discuss the idea of like of Batman and and and Batman saying like what am I doing? You know? Is am I doing the right thing? You know? Because you you know, everybody's the hero of their own their own story. But Batman has a little bit more self reflection, and he's like,

am I just am I the Riddler? You know? And I just don't realize it so cool, like if you look back at the Dark Knights, like Bain probably thought he was the hero of the story. I don't know.

I just yeah, so about this Batman was it just you're right, there's always that line that's being walked, and it's a very fine line, but this one specifically, so many times I found myself questioning, like while I Batman was trying to stop Riddler, when like he could just like be hands clean in the situation, let Rader do what he's doing, help fix goth them, and then you just kind of move in and do the things that

you need to do. Like it seems like they could have worked opposite of each other and just ignored each other altogether. But I know, Ridler kept calling for Batman and all that kind of stuff. I don't know, it just seemed like it's similar themes to The Dark Knight, which is why I really like because I like the themes in The Dark Knight as well, where Heath Ledgard. Joker kind of goes into this a little bit as well,

where he talks about like the whole plan of society. Right, He's like, if I say that I'm going to blow up a truck full of soldiers, nobody panics, right, because that's what happens. But if I say I'm going to kill a mayor, then everybody loses their mind and chaos and sues. And it's like that is an interesting point, right, because if he says like he'll kill twenty soldiers, everyone's like, oh,

that's like terrorism. That's what happens. When when you watch Dark Knight and you see Joker and you see Being, you're like, wow, these guys are senselessly killing a lot of innocent people, and you're like, wow, Okay, those are the bad guys. But Riddler I didn't get that sense. I feel like Riddler was giving people the things that they deserved, and maybe maybe a little more than they deserved, sure, but it was still guilty people that he was punishing.

Um Anyways, I just I just wanted to pick your brain a little bit about it. I'm glad. I feel like I'm a smarter man because of it, so I appreciate it. Um big thank you to Hannah and Easton has always for joining us on this podcast. And um big big thank you to my gut for keeping that number two inside of me for the past hour and a half to really appreciate that the real champion of today. Anyways,

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