Millionaire Match-Up

me a minute. So the format is that we're doing two can I don't know if you can hear me, but the format. Welcome to a bonus Help I Suck at Dating episode where we get to interview your favorite guests. Let's say that yeah, so yeah, like, well, I don't know what we're doing two episodes a week and listen. If you guys didn't know this already, TENA and I don't make any decisions around here. My heart says, hey, listen,

jump and we say, okay, cool, that's what happens. We don't even ask how high because we're like, we'll just do our best and then figure out the rest later. But the good news is the best news is that Abigail is back. That's the most important thing. Abigail is back co hosting, because let's all be real, she's the only one who really does a good job on this thing. I agree. I just blurred stuff, you know, That's all

we do. I guess that's what a podcast is is when you think about the bare bones of a podcast is you just talk and talk. So we do a good job at that. Keep talking, just keep going. Yeah, but we do have a really special guest that's coming up as well. For any fans of Joe Millionaire out there, let me bring up my rundown. Very professional with me right now. I know it's Steve, but I want to get his last name correct. So Steve mcbe Steve, what a name. So we had Kurt on here from Joe

Millionaire a few weeks ago. Kurt is the guy who's not a millionaire, and and now we have Steve, who is the actual millionaire from Joe Millionaire and uh, the episode spoiler alert, the finale aired last night. Uh, he leaves with Kala. I'm saying that correctly, right, I think so, I think it's supposed now, Yeah, it's not Kayla, it's Kala. Kala. Hannah can you confirm, I'm confirming, and it's Steven. What do I say, Steve? Steven? Listen, Jared, you don't become

a multi millionaire by letting people call you Steve. Okay, it's Steven, get it right, Yeah you do. Have you ever heard of Steve Jobs? Steven Jobs? You mean? Um, yeah, I've never heard of the revolutionized in the world. Uh. So we have Steven McBee. I'm gonna ask him if he like Steven or Steve better. I would love that. I would love to do that. I would love you. And we have Kala, who, of course, he gave, once

again spoiler alert, a promise ring to last night. They left together after he disclosed that he is the millionaire. He is a millionaire and also told her that he owns a helicopter and flies it himself. So this guy is getting cooler by the day. I'm sure cal is very excited about that. So we're gonna talk to them. Uh in just a few minutes. There you go. So if you're a Joe millionaire fans, stick around, all right,

welcome back to help I suck at dating. Like we talked about before the break, we have some very special guests. If you guys are fans of Joe Millionaire for rich or Poor, which I know you are because pretty much it's captivated the entire country, Uh and world, really I think it anyway, it doesn't matter, boy it is. We have two very special guests. We have Stephen McBee and we have Kala Jackson. Kala Stephen, how are you guys? Congratulations you're finally publicly known to be in a relationship.

Thank you so much. It's been a long time coming. Uh, you know, it was a stressful few months. Haven't you stay in the house. And we probably snug We definitely snuck more trips than we should have, but we made it snug trips. What does that mean? Like you going, what are you doing? I promise you made under the

radar trips. So whenever you're on a dating show, you know, obviously most people know you can't be seen in public and you're not supposed to be seeing each other unless there's a producer there, and you know the network has set up the you know, the visit, so it's all kept under the road. Well, we snuck a few more than we should have. Like, I think we've seen each other three out of four weekends since the show. You're not gonna get in trouble for saying that, are you know?

It's all over? We made it. Three are sometimes where I was sweating a little bit. Do you what do you guys do? Do Do you want to like a say pause? You go do like a different country? What do you do? The reason why it works is that I live in the middle of nowhere. In my nearest house is five miles from my nearest neighbors. So she would just come up and there was not a soul in sight. Nice, Well, hey, whatever works, I guess did you Kyla? Has he picked you up in this helicopter yet? We have taken a

few helicopter rides. Are you terrified? It's scary, but it's fun. I just remember that. Oh my god, that sounds terrifying. Good for you? Is Stephen a good pilot? He actually is. He takes like a good hour to prep and like walk around and he has like a little checklist before we go up in there. So it made me feel very safe for sure. Nice. I don't want I don't want to brag or anything, but I've got fifteen hours into my student pilot's license. So Steve, you want to

fly together? Man, Yeah, you're getting there. But yeah, yeah, I can fly a drone. I can fly he No, I know it's not that easy. But hey, Steven, I got a question for you that Jared and I are dying to know the answer to. Um, do you ever go by Steve? Uh? No. So my mom grew up like anyone. Anytime anyone called me Steve, she made it a point of emphasis to say, hey, his name is Stephen, and that's because my dad, you know, my dad goes

by Steve. So that's the distinction there, right, separated by one letter the end is all the all the difference you need. Yeah, because when we were talking about how you're coming to the the podcast and I was like Steve McBee then, what a cool name. And then our producer was like it's Steven and I'm like, yeah, I know, it's Steve. Would be upset. We don't want to upset

Mrs McBee. So now that so, now that you're finally able to be public with with your relationship, have you seen it change at all or is it more or less the same? Uh? Well, we have not actually been out in public yet. We went to Texas Roadhouse last night for a little celebratory dinner. But were we drove down to Dallas because we're celebrating this weekend. So we're actually meeting up with Kurt Um and then her friend Whitney from the show, and we're having like this big celebration.

So it's gonna be a good time this weekend. It'll be interesting to see how things go tonight, Dallas. What what bar are we going to? Uh? Sistance tonight on the Dallas side. Okay, all right, I'll catch my next flight out of Las Vegas. I'll eat you guys down there. Nice Abigail. So, Abigail hasn't been fully caught up on this season. So can you guys listened on the last episode between you two, Kurt and the rest of them? Yeah? Yeah,

spoiler alert, Abigail. Alright, so basically, you know, I'm left with Annie and Kala, Kurt's left with Amanda and Caroline, and uh, you know, any such an incredible woman, um, no doubt about it. But my connection with Kala um, you know, it was just so much better. She fit in with my family. Uh, and it really just loves a farm life and everything about it and has some experience in it, and um, you know, my connection was so much stronger, even though you do not see that

on the screen. The producers purposely cut that away to mislead the viewers. Uh, And if you ask Kala and myself, it was a little over the top. Yeah, yeah, so it was. You know, we had We've done several interviews this week and they're all just absolutely flabbergasted at the fact that I picked Kala, and I'm like, yeah, you didn't see anything, any of the intimate moments between us. Yeah. I guess that was productions point was to do the shock factor at the end. I think definitely got the

shock factor. Yeah, so are you guys? Are you guys not upset? But are do you wish they had portrayed a little differently? Yeah, definitely, because we had a pretty solid connection since the beginning, but none of it was shown, Like all of our sentimental moments were cut out, most

of our conversations as well. Yeah yeah, I mean, you know, it's really rough for her, especially, you know, she's telling her family and friends to watch the show, and they're watching it and they're like, Kelly, you aren't even on here, Like yeah, and then you know, I had yesterday on Twitter right before the show, someone was like, um, you know, I'm gonna buy Stevens. I have a jerky and meat

stick Lion. Someone's like, I'm gonna buy Steven's meat sticks unless he picks call and then I'm not going to. And then like right after the finale, they're like, I'm never buying his meat. Yeah, we're well to offset that, I'll buy twice as many of your meat sticks to drive to sales up a little bit. Kelly, So you see yourself living, like fitting into his lifestyle pretty well, you're saying, then, Yeah, yeah, for sure. I mean I'm

from Dallas and my stepdad owns a cattle ranch. I grew up with horses, Um, you know, working stables early morning, so I'm kind of used to have a little bit of experience, and you know, it really hasn't been too bad. We actually have a house closing in three weeks in Kansas City, so we'll be closer to the city and you know, bars and restaurants. Congratulations, congratulationss go ahead. But I was gonna say how long ago was filming? So filming ended October eighteen, so yeah, wow, that's a long

time ago. Yeah, it was a while back. I mean what is it? Five months? Yeah? Months? Yeah? Yeah. Has it been a pretty smooth sailing for you guys all? Five months? Yeah? I mean it's honestly, it's been smooth sailing for the most part. I mean the episodes were you know, a little rough, you know, just because of you know, we knew what we had during filming and

it just wasn't shown. So there were some ups and downs there, But for being long distance and you know, having to keep it under wraps for six months, it's pretty solid. Nice. Yeah, that's the cursory out of TV. I think all us cann test do you think or you get something like hilarious or you're like scared they're gonna show something, and then the episode comes and like none of it gets there and you're like, okay, like what's going on with this? I don't know, It's it's

a it's an interesting situation. Um seven. So it's great that she fits into your lifestyle. Is that something that you like wanted to make sure you're looking for when it came to who you chose? Yeah, I had to. I mean you know what, right now, I live in that little bitty small town and I knew that if you know, whenever I found the girl I wanted to

settle down with, that wasn't gonna work. But even living in Kansas City, like whenever we get our new house, the farm is always going to be a big part of my life, even if I'm not living there full time. And so she's got to be someone, uh, you know that can fit in on the farm, can fit in around my family and college checks all those boxes for sure. Nice. I love that. I love that. What's what's your relationship

with Kurt? Like, now, I know you said you're meeting him to party, but yeah, I mean it's honestly, yeah, it's stronger than ever. I mean, it's it's only built since the show ended. I mean there was one weekend where my dad flew out to Charlotte, uh, and he ended up hanging out with Kurt and I wasn't even there. So, you know, Kurt's basically just another family member at this point. You guys did seem like brothers on the show. Like it seems like you guys grew a bond pretty quick. Yeah. Yeah,

I mean we hit it off from day one. I was actually nervous about it, you know, whenever I found out there was another guy. I was like, oh man, it's just just gonna be a jealous competition the entire time. And within two minutes of meeting him, you know, he was just a brow to me and such another guy. Yeah. Well, so I got a question, then, how did you Because we talked to Kurt on this podcast maybe like a month ago, um, and we kind of got his origin story as to how he got picked for the show.

How did you get selected for the show or how did that all come about? Yeah, so January one, they messaged me on Instagram. Cornwall Casting, a casting company hired by Fox did um and honestly I thought it was a joke, responded to it, just you know, lighthearted response, and he said, hey, let's just set up a quick zoom And ended up working from casting company to four nine five Productions to Fox the network and uh actually found out I was the first guy they interviewed and

Kurt was literally the last one. So it's interesting the too perspect this we got. Um. You know, obviously I had to send over a bunch and we went through like three months of audits on all my financial information to make sure that I was truly qualified as a millionaire. I guess they've had some issues, Um, you know with some people falsifying information was getting like I was like telling them at the end of it. I was so frustrated. I was like, look, I'm giving you guys more information

that I give my taxes. Uh. And then you know, ended up getting selected and it's all sensitive information to like your social security class. I'm like, I don't know you guys were Adam, like, this is really starting to weird me out. My accounts are gonna be wiped out. Yeah, well, hey, props to you for going through it. Obviously it worked out. What about you? How did you end up on the show? Yeah,

the same thing. We're well. Casting reached out to me a via Instagram and um, we went through about six months of interviews and yeah, it was from March up until September, and they told me probably two weeks beforehand that I was selected. Isn't so funny to think about, like just some random casting agency reach outs to both of you separately and now here you are together. Yeah. It so Yeah. I just I made a post on Instagram. I was like, I don't know how or why the

stars aligned. It's weird, how you know, twists and turns of life goes, but it's pretty neat. Yeah. I want to talk about the finale a little bit because obviously the crux of the show is that you don't know who the millionaires and who like quote unquote the average Joe is, even though I think Kurt has pretty well from suff Yes, the point is, um, you know, Kla, what were you What was your emotions going into that night? Do you think anything really would have changed if Stephen

wasn't a millionaire? Oh? Not at all. I had gotten to know Stephen for who he was as a person, and I think this process really helped with that. Um, and so I just I knew how genuine he was and how good hearted he was, and that's really all I care about. Stephen. Were you, like not inst cure about it, but especially going into this entire process where you nervous that that people might be trying to get

with you for quote unquote the wrong reasons? Yeah, I mean, you know, going into it, I thought, honestly that they were going to try and find a bunch of legitimate gold diggers, and so that's what it was going to be. But once I got there, especially once we got to like the top ten or twelve women. It was a

really really good group for women. And you know, it's like, from one perspective, you're like, you know, probably would have made the show better if they actually had true gold diggers there, But we had a really good group of women to where I don't think, you know, it was almost like production forced them to talk about the money aspect.

Otherwise they had never even talked about it. Definitely prompted more than you would think, so, Kelly, even from your perspective, like, uh, when it was just the girls hanging out talking, you didn't really see much of that, uh then talking about the money, asked, I mean, there are a few girls who aren't you know, prompted, who are trying to figure

it out for sure, especially early on. But I think as it dwindled down, those are the more genuine girls who are actually they're looking for like a real relationship on it. For sure. The bigger aspect, or the bigger you know, twist of this was the two guys rather than one being a millionaire one not just the fact

that these two guys I think was the more interesting. Yeah, we had no idea what the show was called until I think the day three of filming, so we didn't know the content, what it was called, or that there were two men and either. So, um, how was that

first day like jitter's wise? Oh, I know, whenever Kurt and I walked out on the back patio to introduce ourselves to the women, we were sitting in that the butler's quarters like choreographing our movements for like three hours and we ended up having like three large glasses of scotch. The producers came in there and took the scotch out of the room like you guys are done, and uh yeah, so it was you know, we were pretty nervous. I'm not gonna lie nice. Yeah, That's why it's funny how

that always is. I've been on four reality dating shows, and every single time, the first day I'm always like, this is terrifying. The first day you're just like I've made a giant mistake. And it was such a long day night of filming. I think we started at three pm and we didn't end until ten am the next morning. Yeah, wrapped the first day, I was like do I didn't even want to do this? Still, Like is this gonna

be an everyday thing? Yeah? Yeah, And sure enough. It basically was for yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I want to ask to because Stephen in the finale that you give Kala a promise ring. Yeah, tell me what the significance of a promise ring is. Well, you know, the producers were really pushing Kurt and I to do a proposal, and we're just not people that are going to do that, you know, be forced into a proposal. You know, We're like, look, we barely you know, really know these girls. I've been

on two solo dates with Kala. Other than that it was just group dates. And yeah, I know we have a good connection, but I don't know anything about her other than that. Um. And so I was like, yeah, she'da ran off if I pulled out and got on one knee. Sheeta ran out of that house so fast. Um. And so I was like, look, what I'll do is

a promise ring. And this the significance of this promise ring is that, you know, I promised to you that my feelings are true, my connection with you is true, and that once we leave these walls, this this bubble of filming, that we're actually gonna give this a real shot, a legitimate shot. And this isn't just for some ploy just to you know, just for the cameras. I think that's so much more realistic too. I mean, we had

known each other for seven weeks at that point. So did you guys talk about it beforehand that you guys weren't gonna get engaged or where do you thinking? Maybe that I was actually really nervous because I knew Kala. You know, Kala is someone that takes it really slow. You can see that throughout the episodes, even that she's really slow to open herself up, really slow to catch those feelings and really fall for anyone, which I like, and I'm I find myself a lot of the same way.

Um So walking down there, like Kurt and I were like, we gotta talk to these women and let them know, like, hey, we're not just you know, we pull these rings out, they're gonna freak out. And so I was freaking out because we didn't have the chance to talk talk to him. So you don't see it make the cut in the finale, but like, as soon as I'm reaching into my jacket, before I even do anything, I'm like, just so you know, this is not a proposal. And then I pulled the

ring out. But yeah, she had taken off if I'd pulled it out and got to the knee. Nice reaction was, oh my god, thank you, Like I'm not gonna lie. That would have made for a great television so amazing. And Steve and I think, you know, hopefully one day when you do propose, you reach into your jacket and you're like, just so you know, this is a propose name. Yeah. And for the record too, I've done I'm doing the promise thing right now. I still wear a promised ring

with my girlfriend. It's great. You know, more people should do promised rings. I feel like promises are incredibly underrated. Yes, yeah, the Dean as he just showed, he wears like seven rings. That was a promised ring. I want to build out the collection. It's hard to find quality rings these days, you know. I just want to stumble across them as they come in my life. So, um, Stephen and kla

I suppose we've got the promised ring. There had to be some conversation now that you guys know each other more six months in the relationship, is they're going to be a level up from the promise ring anytime soon? Do you think you know? Klle just moved up last weekend, so we wanted to cross that hurdle of going from long distance to seeing if we're compatible when we live together. Um. And so you know, we have the house that's closing here at the end of March, and we're both people

again that take it slow. So we're just taking things day by day, making sure we can live together and not want to kill each other. Um. And you know, once we see that we can do that. I mean, you know, we don't want to put a specific timeline on anything, but we're just gonna play by ear. Yeah, there's not need to put pressure on it right now. Just take things at our own pace. And I think we're enjoying each day as it's come so far. And you guys are being way way too rational about this.

I want to hear something. I want to hear something crazy, like you guys got married actually are if if Kurt would have had his if Kurt would have had his choice on night one of filming, he would have proposed Caroline. No doubt they ran off together. Like the producers were telling curR, Hey, you've got like there's nineteen other women here at the time. You've got to open yourself up and he's like no, He's like, I'm leaving with Caroline right now. He didn't pick Caroline, no good thing, he

didn't run off with her on the person night. Yeah, and it's crazy. And by night one he was like, yeah, he's like, Caroline's in that's my that's my girl. And you could tell even in group settings they definitely gravitated towards each other each time. Before we let you, guys go, I got one question. I guess it's maybe less of a question more of a request. Um, you're moving to Kansas City, you said here pretty soon? Can you guys just promise me you're not gonna be Kansas City Chiefs fans?

I promise you on everything all the way. Okay, okay, I'm gonna get her into Patrick Mahomes Jersey here pretty quick. Are you Are you already a Chiefs fan? Oh? I'm a huge Chiefs I'm a Broncos fan. We got Russell Wilson, so yeah, my need the West is looking good, Jared, I haven't even had a chance to talk to you about Russell Wilson yet. Well, here's the thing. So I'm a die hard Patriots fan, also a diehard Tom Brady

fan because I'll always support that man. Point being, I think what the Raiders need to do very two seconds on sports, Josh McDaniels needs to do whatever he needs to do in order to try to get Tom Brady out of Tampa, out of retirement, into the into a Raiders uniform because long story short, McDaniels and the Raiders are gonna finish in last place two years and then he's gonna get fired, So he needs to do whatever you have Russell Wilson, Patrick Mahomes and Justin Herbert all

own one division get Tom Brady to the Raiders. Yeah, oh yeah, and uh yeah, you know. I mean, hey, it's gonna be fun. They f C West is like loading up now Khalil Max on the charges. It should be a lot of fun things. Anyway we do, we are dating, and then I'm sure we just lost a lot of followers right now. But I do want to ask one more question. Now that you guys are out in public, you don't have to hide your relationship anymore. What is the thing that you're most looking forward to

doing together? A question? What we're gonna be doing this weekend? Just going out with friends, going out to dinner, going out to bars, and just being a normal couple. It has been so hard staying pooped up because we're both social people and we have a lot of friends. It's been hard keeping this a secret for five six months. Yeah. Nice, that's all. It's definitely the best to see your signal failer in that light, to like being able to take them out and like hang out their friends and all

that kind of stuff. Um, you definitely learn a lot over the six first six months, but I feel you guys are gonna learn a lot more about each other over the next three months, probably right, especially now that you guys are like in the media doing all these interviews and everything, like, it's such an exciting time for you guys. Absolutely, Yeah, Yeah, we definitely definitely enjoy it.

I mean, it's been a long time coming, remember now, and I like when we were able to go on public just the first team months work just so fun. So I definitely enjoy yeah, very much. Thank you guys so much for joining us. We're so happy for the both of you. You can't wait to see you guys at the Chiefs game when they're getting their butts kicks by the Broncos. This next season. Um, we hope you guys have the best time together and we're excited to see what you guys to you next. So thanks so

much for joining us. Than thank you, Yeah, cheers, guys. H alright, bye guys, thank you, congrats, thank you, appreciate you. All Right, Well, that's gonna do it for this week's episode of Help I Suck At Dating. Abigail, thank you so much once again for co hosting. Please come back and give no all of our best. Uh Dean, make sure you give big kisses to Alistair because he deserves them, and uh suck Army, make sure you tune in next week,

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