Hell, I Suck at Dating with Dean Angler and Dared Haven and I heard radio podcast. Hey, we're gonna help I Suck at Dating a new episode. I'm, of course Jared Haven, joined by Dean Angler. We have a very special guest. You know her from the most recent season of The Bachelor. It is Genevieve Paris. Genevieve, how you doing. I'm doing really well. How are you doing? I'm doing well? Did you did I send your last name correctly? Did?
I'm very very proud of myself. So before we jump into the episode, we have to talk to Dean for a quick second. Dean, where the hell are you? Hey? Guys? Uh, First of all, hello, good morning. UM, I hope you guys all had a great week. Um. Sorry, my friend isn't putting a seatbelt on. I'm driving through Mexico right now. We're at a We're at a bachelor party for one of my good buddies who's getting married in a couple
of months. And you know, I thought I was gonna be able to just like take ant like chip an out are out of the day and go record, But it turns out that's not that's not loud at the bachelor Party. I guess so I need a bottle out for today's episode, which I hate doing, you know, because this is the highlight of my week every single week, talking to you guys, getting to our emails. But I just, uh, you know, I'm back into your corner here. Yes, uh, well,
enjoy your time at the bachelor party. What part of Mexico you in. We're in Ensenata, not Inconitas like we all thought, but Ensnata. Where's Ensenata? Like four hours south of Los Angeles and we drove down. We're down here to serve in golf and we're going to like a vineyard today and stuff. You crossed, Juanna, you go past to Juanna. That's my friend Josh. All right, we're gonna I've probably gotta go before anything else. All right, did
his audio drop? Oh god, Genevieve, Welcome to podcasting with Deany Davies. Holy God. Yeah, that was that's interesting. Any who welcome, Welcome to the podcast everyone, Genevieve, how are you? And JOm Well that was a nice start. Just constant chaos in the world of help. I suck a dating here at my Heart Radio, but we're very grateful for everybody who listens to this podcast. Sometimes I really wonder
why they do. But I love it. I really do. Uh, Genevieve, obviously you were on this past season of the Bachelor, so I want to talk a little bit about that. You are from Massachusetts, right but you live in l A. I am. I'm actually in Massachusetts right now visiting family. But I am from here and I live in l A. I'm not gonna lie. The house that you're in, it was it looks such like a Massachusetts house. I love every second of it. Yeah, does not look like you're in l A. I am in Rhode Island. We are
currently in West Grantwae, Rhode Island. My sister lives in Rhobeth. Oh, no way. My aunt lives in East Grantwich. Oh that's so funny. E G. Yeah, that's crazy. So we're moving. We're gonna build an e G. My favorite town ever is East Grantage. Uh do you go there a lot? I go there sometimes, like um family gatherings and stuffing little to my aunts. Often. I love it there. So my shameless plug. My favorite restaurant there is Lamas and
it's right on Main Street. So there's also a main Street coffee there incredible place, one of the places that inspired me to open. So my my wife and I we opened a coffee shop slash lounge. It's called All Just Coffee House and Lounge. Uh and it's inspired for from a place in each Scrantage anyway. Uh, it's so cool. That's a coffee shop South Kingston, Rhode Island, so please do. It's in South County Commons. How long are you in
Massachusetts for? I'm here for like a week and then going to New York for a week to visit my sister. Oh that's so awesome. Oh hell yeah, you gotta come down. Um well, I'm sure everybody loves us talking about Rhode Island, Massachusetts. Genevieve, how did you get on the Bachelor? Um? So someone actually reached out to me on Instagram, UM, and that they are casting for a dating show and UM, if I want to hear more information, just give her a call.
So I did, and she said it was a Bachelor and I have I haven't watched recent seasons, but I watched um Colton season. Maybe that was the last one I watched. So however long ago that was um and so I was like, okay, why not? So I went through the process and it was kind of last minute. Actually, they reached up to me pretty late, and I went through all the interviews and everything, and then they gave me the call and said I was on. And I
tried to not get my hopes up. Um, so I was just waiting to hear and I was pretty surprised. And then I had a week. I had to pack everything and get everything ready and go Yeah, it's crazy. I did the exact same thing. I didn't want to get my hopes up. I didn't. I tried not telling anybody because I didn't want to be the person who was like, oh, casting to be on the Bachelorette and
then not get on the show. And then even when I finally got the call to go on the show, I was convinced I was going to be like an extra because I heard that they fly extra people out who never go out night one. There's they like, yeah, if there's like twenty five people all night one, they'll fly out twenty eight and there's like three reserves, but they don't tell you your reserve. And then that night they say, hey, you know, so sorry, I just didn't work out. Yeah I know, So that's what I was.
I mean, the fact they reached out to me, I had a little confidence. I was like, hopefully they wouldn't be reaching out to me if they were just trying to cut me. But um, I still didn't want to get my hopes stuff like you said. So I was just waiting and like also the same thing I didn't I told my parents and that's about it, and my sister because I didn't want to. I didn't wanna like have that and then have you asking me and then
you have to say no, I didn't make it. So yeah, yeah, speaking of East Granted, I was mad at my mother because of course my mother cannot hold anything in. So I get the call finally that they wanted me to be on the show, and I begged my parents. I'm telling you, buddy, but she was like, listen, I just on a small dinner with like your close family and friends, you know, as a send off. I'm like, mom, I could be home in three days, you know, like nothing
could happen. But of course she wanted to do it, so I was like whatever. So we went to Meritage and East Grimwage and then it was so embarrassing because my mom was like, like to the waitress. She said like, oh, my son, my son's going to film. He he might be on the batch, He's gonna be on the Bachelor. I'm a mom. Shut the hell up. I mean, thank god, hindsight, it all worked out. But I mean I was the
final rose on night one. I could have easily just gone home and known like that none of this would have ever happened really soon, the final rods, how is that that's gonna be? Like I was like in the middle, and I was terrified. I was coming up like with every excuse in my head, like okay, hey, listen, you know it was. You had a great experience. You got you got to be on TV for a hot second.
You got to see this Bachelor mansion and and meet producers and get flown out to l A like so many people can't say that you shouldn't be, you know, ashamed or anything like that. And then Caitlyn called my name and I was like talking your yeah, pep talking yourself right. I was like, oh, Paulie said, go down the driveway to the labdom, like repeating everything that he said for if you don't get a rose um. But yeah, luckily it worked out for both of us. Thank god.
Uh so, what did you think of Clayton? How is your connection with him? Um? Mike connection with Clean it
was pretty good. Um. It started off like there are these there were butterflies, and I feel like there was an instant connection, kind of a spark um as to sees them and on not getting a one on one and just kind of being on the group dates and not getting too much time you know how it works, um, not getting too much time and seeing all the other relationships past yours kind of um it it brought me back a bit, um and so not having that time Clayton and I we I really like him as a person,
and I think he's an amazing person, But towards is he an amazing person? I don't know him. I'm sure he's very nice. I since I was trying to give him a break on the show for everything that happened, kind of I like playing Devil's advocate. I don't know. I've seen interviews since in social media and I'm like, huh, I wonder maybe I don't know, not say he's a bad person. OK. Yeah, So I mean, hey, I knew him for a month and I talked to him for
a total hour of that month. So I don't really know, but I do think I've never been the lead obviously, so I don't know what it's like. But I feel like it has to be hard to navigate that. But with that said, watching the last episode, in the episode, the second to last episode, it's it's it's interesting because he did say to Susie to go back to all this. He did say I love you the most, and then he told Gabby and Rachel it's whoever I love the most, so bad. I do think it was just a mess
and just wrong. But I think maybe in in the moment, I don't know what he was thinking. I'm trying to give him the benefit of the doubt because I don't know what it's like genis Shoes. But it was bad. Watching it back, I was like, oh gosh, and I
felt terrible for Yeat meeting Rachel. Yeah, no, I I agree, And uh, I always trying to give people the benefit down on the show, because it's you're in the moment, You're surrounded by cameras, everything's amped up, especially when you know that something might not like if you know you made a mistake and then you're in your own head, so you try to overcorrect the mistake and you only end up making it worse and digging the hole deeper.
And then you're aware that that's happening and everything is being recorded, and you're you realize you're spiraling out of control. Like, I get it. I get why people could just easily lose themselves for like ten minutes and then it just being horrible. Um anyhow, that's all I wanted to say.
That interesting, Like I see social media too, like and it's back and some people are like, come on, give him a break with some people are like you, he didn't have to tell everyone he loves them, not to beg them to stay a lot of stuff, So it's hard. I want to. I do think he's a good guy. I think he has good intentions. I don't know about it in the right way. And I hope him and Susie do work out. I do really like being from the show, it's like I want these couples to work out.
I really do. Yeah, yeah, no, And I do think, um, they seem really I mean, they seem happy, and we only get what's on social media, so we don't know. But um, I do hope that they work out too. Yeah, So how's life post show? Life? Will show? Has been good? At first, it was I just lept for like two weeks straight. I didn't get out of bed, and there was a lot. UM I was pretty anxious and just like not knowing, Like I'm about to watch myself on TV and I don't know what I'm gonna look like.
I don't know what I'm gonna sound like, I don't know how it's going to be edited. So it was scary. But after the first episode, UM, I started getting excited to watch it, and so life has been pretty good. Um, I've been kind of hanging low because I don't love going out and people like, oh my god, you're Genevieve and it's l A, so like a lot of people in l A. UM, I guess recognize you. But yeah, it's been No, it's been good. It's been really good. Do you think people in l A recognize you? If
you go out in Massachusetts? I bet you get way more people that were you know, I haven't been. I had this the first time I've been home since I got back since um it filmed air. Sorry, so we'll have to see. No need to apologize for that. I uh yeah, I uh, you know what. I completely understand where you're coming from. When when this show first happened, I would go out and people like can I have a picture with you? And I'd be like, I promise you don't want to picture with me? I'm I'm very lame.
I like, that's the thing. I'm looked like this. You really want to be nobody. I know, trust me, I feel the same way. I still do. But honestly, it's, uh, you know when when I like step back, it's such a cool experience and so much fun and like a once in a lifetime. You know. Ashley and I are both very aware that one day no one's gonna want to picture with us, and that day is probably coming. So and so like, we like are really very humbled
by anytime someone's like can I have a picture with you? Like, we would love that because that's really cool that anybody is excited to beat us. Um. But it is like it definitely takes time to get used to that because I remember the first it was just like weird, um, But that's good. So I'm I'm very curious. I don't know if you can talk about it because there's so many there's so much speculation about Paradise coming up this year, whether it's going to happen or not, which is crazy.
Talk to me if Paradise doesn't happen. I mean, I know it's just rumor mills on online, But my question to you is, is their potential for us to see you down in a beach Mexico. I want to I would like to think so or it could. Okay, that's good. That makes me feel like it's happening. I would hope so. I've I've seen these rumors too, and I'm like wondering where they're coming from. Okay, well, I'm assuming the rumors are coming from the fact that The Bachelorette is not
earning until July, and usually Paradise airs in August. So that makes me think when is Paradise going to air? Because if Bachelorette airs in July, are they going to air Paradise and Bachelorette simultaneously or they're going to push Paradise back to like whenever The Hell Bachelor it would be air in September October. I would think, if I had to guess, it would be after I feel like after the Bachelorette, I feel like this is an educated guess, which I like it is. We're breaking news here and
help I suck at dating. We have an insider that's how so Eastern. If you're listening, let's make sure the name of this podcast is breaking news. Paradise will air in September. Inside source confirms. And now I'm teasing. I'm teasing. I honestly like it could not happen. I don't know, but I really do hope that to this and I hope that we see would you so you would say yes if if I hasked to go back on Paradise. Um, most likely if I were asked, I would go good.
That's also my advice for everybody when they're like should I do Paradise or should I not do Paradise? My advice, I mean, pent of the time it's very rare, is do it. Go on Paradise, have fun, enjoy it. Because I've had friends excuse me, who have said no to Paradise for a multitude of reasons, and then the following year they're like, Okay, I'm ready to go on Paradise now.
And productions like, well we have you know, guys and new girls like if we you know, of course we'd love to have you on, but we're just trying to figure everything out right now, and then they don't get invited on, and it sucks because they lose that opportunity. You know, that's true. I know it's crazy because it seems like, well, if you just finished filming in what in October November, it seems like we're jumping right back into it. If like we did, it would probably be
filming probably in the summer. So it seems like a lot. But like you said, I think I would regret it if I think so, and just to give it a shot, just to give it a shot. See if I meet someone and you met, didn't you meet? Ashley? Yes, we met on the show. We ended up dating off the show. It's a very long, convoluted story, and then we ended up making a cameo on Paradise where we got engaged, which is really cool because even though it's on the show, that really was the beach where we first met, so
it was very significant to both of us. Um. But yeah, no, we met on Paradise. Hell, yeah, that's awesome. And see, I really do, like I've seen a lot of couples come out of it. So I have hopes. I have high hopes for it. So I do hope that it happens, and I hope I'm invited and I get to be there. Well, I hope all of the same. In Paradise definitely has the highest success rate I think of couples. Now, Yeah,
I'm more than Bachelor and Bachelor seasons. I would say, Yeah, it's very sad that Bachelor and Bachelor it's just don't last anymore. It's very tragic. But Paradise keep it strong. Yeah, I know, I'll try. If I'm there, I was trying to keep it. Come out of that, all right. We're gonna take a quick break, uh, and then we're gonna come back and we have some hot topics and emails to go over. So sleepy tune, all right, welcome back to help I suck at dating. We have a couple
of hot topics. Dean is still down in Mexico doing god knows what. I just hope he's driving safely because it sounded like there was like a lot of dudes in one car buckling up while he was trying to record a podcast very quickly, and it was early in the morning. And hopefully they're not drinking yet, so I know Bachelor parties fingers crossed. Everything is going well down there. But Genevieve, we do have a couple of hot topics that I wanted to talk about. First and foremost, do
you know who Andy Dorfman is? She was a former Bachelorette? Yeah, actually, um so she recently. Just so, she was the Bachelorette before my season, well not my season, but the season I was on of The Bachelor at Kitlin. And that crazy thing about it's so weird because like I always just talk about people as if everybody knows. But Nick Vial,
who's a very good friend of mine. Nick was on Andy season first before he crashed our season of the Bachelorette, where he came halfway through Caitlin season, and uh, it's weird. I remember before I went on the Bachelorette, I watched an episode of Andy season to prepare myself to say, okay, well what you know. I mean, I obviously know of the show, but you know, to watch it and see
what it's about. And I remember seeing an episode where Nick was just being crucified by his fellow cast members and they made him look like the biggest jerk and uh, it's so funny to think that that was Nick. Um. Anyhow, I did do a podcast with him, so I have met him. Oh you did, Yeah, okay, cool. Nick's awesome. Oh good. Uh he's a good dude. I love Nick. Uh, he's such an acquired taste. But not anymore well, honestly, like I don't feel I feel like he's just not
to talk about Nick. But um, you know, I used to always say about Nick that there was like such moments of greatness within him. I'm there, like, but then there'd be moments where like we it would literally just beat me and him at lunch and he would be on his phone percent of the time and just like that, Oh I did it. But I know. Um, but then there'll be moments of Nick that were just so good and he was such a good friend. I'll never forget. We were watching, uh the Bruins, the Boston Bruins. I'm
a Boston Bruins fan. They were in the Stanley Cup Finals. I was living in l A at the time, and we went out to go watch the game and with our friends Tanner and Jade, who are also a Bachelor Paradise couple, and they have a couple of kids, and Nick was there as well, and it was me and Ashley and then Tanner and Jade. There was I don't forget, there was like a moment and like the kids were crying and Tanner couldn't help, and Jade was like emotional.
I forget, Like it was just like a very quick moment where the kids were crying, and I remember Nick just like grabbed the baby and it was like I got this and just like helped rock the baby and and like let Jade like compose herself for a minute while Tanner, I think with dealing was dealing with the other kid. And I was like, bro, that like that's awesome. That said something, Yeah, thats something about him. Yeah it does,
you know, it really does. And but now I think so, like, but now I feel like that that Nick that was like there sixty percent of the time and the other was when he was on his phone all the time at lunch. Like he's that way a hundred percent at the time now. And I think he's so happy with Natalie, which is his girlfriend. It's like really cool to see that he's just completely head over heels in love with this girl. And uh, Anyhow, it's weird talking about he
does not do do you know like that guy? Do you know how many of my friends are like, excuse me, not my friends, but like how many people coming to the coffee shop? And I'm like, oh, like, who do you want me to you know, ask to come to the coffee shop and do an event with so many Nick, so many Nick fans? Oh? Yeah, they just they want to. There's like a certain appealed on Nick, you know what I mean? Like, who are some of the other people
that like they'll say like most popular? Well obviously like they just like they I think a lot of people who know, like who like come in and want to talk to Ashley and I know that we're really good friends with Dean and Ben and Nick, and so they probably say those obviously Tyler Cameron big you know, you know he's a big hit. Uh mostly yeah, most of these guys, I guess, uh, who the hell else? Yeah? I don't know if um but what was I saying? I don't even know what. Oh Andy Dorfan, Holy sh it,
I can't believe in one of this huge around she's engaged. No, it was she's engaged. So Andy Dorfman is engaged to her boyfriend will now Fancy Blaine Heart and she says that I finally found love, which is really cool. I've only met Andy. I met her twice. I think the first time was at Tanner and Jade's wedding. Um, God, Jesus, I back, Holy crap, that was six years ago. Yeah, that sounds it just sounds so long ago. How old you, Genevieve?
I feel I'm twenty six. How old are you? I'm thirty three, So you were twenty you were twenty back until the sixteen. Yeah, Oh my god. I worked with so many college students too at the coffee shop because you know, we're next to a university, and it's just so bad because I'm I feel old, you know what I mean, Like I'm not old and thirty three, but man, there is like a generational gap. It's apparent. It's apparent. Um, but Andy Dorfman is engaged. I want to say congratulations.
That's super exciting for obviously, she was on Juan Pablo season of the Bachelor. Uh, we're that whole thing where like he was like it's okay, it's okay, and she's like, it's not okay. Now, I do remember. I don't remember how the Stuthan ended, but I remember he wasn't a
favorite one Pablo. Uh yeah, I just remember that moment. Um. So I didn't see that season, but of course I went back um and watched that moment because it was what so many people talked about, where he was like it's okay, It's okay, and she's like, it's not okay. And then she wrote a book titled It's Not Okay. Oh my gosh, did not go back? Yeah? Um, So I want to say congratulations to Andy Darfman on being engaged. That's super exciting. Uh, very happy for I know it's
a long time coming Andy. Yeah, congrats Andy. Obviously she's a big fan of the podcast. She listens all the time. Oh that's nice. I'm kidding. She definitely doesn't look kidding. Yeah. Uh. And then our second headline, of course, we got to talk about the Will Smith Chris Rock uh slap herd around the world. Did you see this moment? I did. I've just seen it like all over social media. Were you watching live? Oh? I was not watching Live for you.
I was because Ashley was upstairs recording a podcast. I was like flipping in and out of the Oscars. I'm a huge film buff. I love the Oscars. Unfortunately I don't really care anymore as most people don't. UM, So I was kind of in and out, but thank god I was watching so my my my wife and I have an eight week old is Davids Dawson, So I was holding Dawson and uh. I was watching it and Chris Rock came out and I was thinking to my head, I was like, I wish Chris Rock was hosting the
Oscars this year. That would have been fun. Uh. And then he made the joke, the g I Jane joke, and I obviously had no idea that Jada Pickett Smith had alopecia, and uh. And then I saw it and I saw Will Smith walk up and slap him, and I was like, oh, that's it's, you know, obviously a
bit and ha ha. And then I it was weird because on the live broadcast it just went silent for like fifteen seconds and they showed Will Smith and you can easily read his lips where he said, get my wife's name out your f and mouth, and it showed that, but it was silent, and then I was like, what the hell is going on and then I saw the rest of Chris Rocks, you know, where he was doing the nominations, and he was so flustered, and I thought
to myself, there's no way this is real. There is no way that Will Smith just slapped Chris Rock on stage at the Oscars, and then of course ended up being real. Yeah, I think it's real. Everyone's still sitting it's a bit. I'm like, no, I don't think Bill Smith would do that to himself, Like, I don't think yeah, I don't think. Well Smith would have screamed, get your wife's get my wife's name out of and mouth if it wasn't real. I mean, did you see Lupida Nuonga's
reaction in the background. Yes, yes, it was so good she was It was so good. It was like everyone's reaction around the world. Everybody just looked at Lupeto and was like, yeah, that was exactly exactly how I reacted. At first, I didn't know, like I had to figure out all the stuff behind it. I didn't know she had alopecia, and I apparently Chris Rock did not know either. Um, And I never think it's okay to make fun of someone's mental health or physical health or whatever it may be.
But like, I think there's a time and place and going up there and snacking someone, and like there's been a full audience too, So I feel like it just flustered everyone, not only Chris Rock. So it was it was a lot could have been handled differently. Yeah, I think listen, Yeah, it was a joke that was probably a little below the belt. You know, he might not have known that she had alopecia and that you know, it was maybe distasteful. Okay, we can all move on
from that. But Will Smith walked up. I guess what bothers me is a sense of entitling because I love Will Smith. He's one of my favorite actors of all time, and you know he still is. I I still love his movies. It's not like this is tarnishing, you know,
his entire character for me. But still, like the sin, it's an entitlement that you have to have to walk up on stage, slap another person, walk back, sit down in front of hundreds of people and hundreds of people in the auditorium and millions of people watching, and just
like not expect any repercussions. And then I mean there's so many like reports coming out that like, oh, the oscars asked him to leave and he refused, and then you know the l a p D was ready to arrest him, but Chris Rock said, no, I don't want to press any charges. The fact is security at the Like I I totally get and I respect that. Chris Rock was like, no, I don't want to make a
situation worse, I don't want press charges. Totally totally respect that and get it, and I like, I love Chris Rock and I only love Chris Rock Moore after this moment. But like, as whoever's running the OSCARS, like you gotta just get security in and if Will Smith refuses to leave, you get security and you escort. Now, like you can't just allow one guy to literally hit another person and then just not do anything about it. And then he
wins best Yeah, like it down. He literally just sat down like he like, did you see him fix his code after like after he slapped him walking back, he like fix his code and then sat down like nothing just happened. Yeah, and it seems so out of character for will Smith. That was the crazy part, like what the hell is going on? And then he was partying afterwards.
You see the videos, like he was saying getting jiggy with it, and it was just like this is weird because he never you know, he obviously apologized to Chris Rock the day after, which is all PR talk at that point, you know, um, and his speech was it was a little all over the place, like I didn't know, nobody knew what the hell he was gonna say, and he was emotional. It was like a heavy moment. But like then the like everybody gave him a standing ovation
and was like, what the hell is going on? I didn't know, see I didn't watch the whole thing, but yeah, it's like do something about it, because it's just like, oh, that's totally fine. He's allowed to stay and get a standing ovation and all this when he just assaulted someone. Yeah, dude, like he slapped him. And I understand, like, you know, it's let's not go overboard. I'm not saying that he should be, like, you know, in jail for ten years over this, but like, I mean, he how can you
got to escort him out? And I know that they say, well he refused, Yeah, you get security. You know, you say, hey, okay, well we're going to get security. We're gonna escort you out because we can't allow you to stay here after you just assaulted another guy in front of millions of people. So I don't know. It was a weird situation, uh, and very weird. I didn't know what to think of it. At first. I was like, Okay, chriss option have made
fun of Jada for her hair or no hair. But then I was like, this is just that would have been handled so much differently, And yeah, yeah, I mean you can absolutely say like, hey, listen, that joke was distasteful, like you should have said it. Uh, but you know, when you you can't just set a precedent like hey, I didn't like that joke, so now I'm gonna walk up and slap the dude. You know. It's like Jesus. So, yeah, weird moment. Obviously, I'm sure nobody cares about our opinions.
And then that's the other thing. I actually really like Daniel Radcliffe when he I don't know if he's sawing, He's on some talk show and he's like, I'm so bored of everybody's opinion about this, and I was like, yeah, I know, but we host a podcast, so we gotta like at least say our two cents on it very quickly. Yes, yeah, even if it went a little longer than I guess, right, yeah, I guess we gave our thoughts. Sorry about that, guys.
You can fast forward to the last part. Um, let's get to one quick email before we wrap this podcast up. But before we do that, let's take one quick break. All right, welcome back to help I suck at dating. Of course, Jenevieve is still here to help us answer our anonymous email. Uh if there's any uh producer or Eastern Mark Hannah, Oh no, East did uh? All right, I'll read the email. I got it. I'll take care
of it, Hannah, don't worry about it. I'm gonna read it today's email because Mark and Eastern are not here. So we'll get right into it with one of our favorite emailers, Anonymous Genevieve. We just like to pretend that there's only one anonymous emailer who just keeps sending us emails and this is the story of of their life. Um. So, Anonymous says, my boyfriend and I just moved out of state together. We have been together going on four years
now now. He lived out of state for two years during peak COVID times and I would visit in three to month at three to four month gaps. But this is our first time living together full time. We have always had a healthy relationship and great communication. For our move, we never really fought at all. Everything was so natural and easy. Recently we have been in a place that feels so defeating and can't seem to stay in a
constant good place. He travels for work and I have pretty bad anxiety, making it hard to stay home alone overnight. Sometimes there's so much love within our relationship, but oftentimes it feels like we're coexisting rather than dating each other. I guess my question for you is how do you take yourself out of the sad codes coexisting funk and get back to the way that our relationship used to be. Um, that's tough. That is especially because I've never been in
like anything even close to that. I've never lived with like a significant other. So but that is tough. That's really tough. What's your longest relationship? What was that? So? What's your longest relationship? Um? Two and a half years. So you can relate a move in college, so like it's just like a college relationship. Not seriously not living together. Um,
but yeah, that's that's a tough one. What do your thoughts? Uh? So, I think one thing people forget is that it takes effort within a relationship that you it doesn't it just doesn't come naturally. I think relationships evolved. I think love evolves and it changes. And I'm not saying it's better or for worse. I think ultimately it's for better, but that does mean it changes. You know, there's no butterflies anymore.
There's none of that like flirtatious banter back and forth, like you hang out, you talk to each other every day. You know, it just becomes stagnant. So I think my advice for you would be, for anonymous, would be to really try to put effort into making the relationship flirtatious again. And that's gonna, unfortunately mean that you have to kind
of go out of your way. A lot of people, I think within a relationship for saying well, if it doesn't come natural, then like it's obviously I'm not with the right person, to which I would were button say, well, I think that after a couple of years, it's not gonna come so naturally anymore, and that's okay. That doesn't
mean that you should break up with them. It just means that you have to figure out a way to to you know, infuse um some some life back into relationship whatever that means, like setting a day apart and be like, hey, listen, Friday nights is for us. You know, that's our date night. We go out to dinner, we go to see a movie, we hang in, we do whatever we want to do. Um, you know, even doing
like surprise little things, you know, like coming home. And I don't know if you just like just gonna sound ridiculous, but just like making out on the couch, you know what I mean, just do something different. Yeah. No, And I like what you said about like setting a day like Friday night is for us, And like she said, I'm sorry, Anonymous said that the uh, the partner travels a lot, so like that's something to look forward to
when they get back to have that night together. And like like just little things like doing like doing little things for each other, bringing some in the coffee. Um, just little things like that. I feel like you can keep it like alive. Yeah. I agree. Life is made up of small moments that are added together to creative life. So um, yeah, Anonymously, I hope that helped definitely, just uh, you know, I remember I've said this multiple times on the podcast, but it's such a good piece of advice
that I want to repeat it. And I think one of the best advice that I ever got towards our relationship is saying that don't forget the person that you are going to hopefully spend the rest of your life with, is the person that you will have a conversation with every day for the rest of your life. So make sure that you're married with you know, you you married someone that you really enjoy hanging out with, uh and having good conversation with, and um, you know that's definitely
me and Ashley. I find that I always love talking Ashley, I always love hanging out with Ashley. But that doesn't
mean that we have a perfect relationship. And I can relate to Anonymous that there are times, especially with the kid and pregnancy and getting older, were like, there are those moments where it does feel like, oh, we're just kind of like co existing a little bit and we're not really dating, and so we we really try at times to prioritize our relationship as well and say, hey, listen, like, you know, tonight we're going out to dinner, or tonight
we're watching a movie together or cuddling or doing ever whatever we need to do. And it has really helped, and it makes us feel like we're dating again instead of just like hanging out. Right, Yeah, I feel with kids and stuff. That just that's a whole another fall game. Oh yeah, yes it is. There's just there's there's p everywhere, there's spit up everywhere, and it's just like you just you know, there's no I can't I believe it. It's
fun though, it's really fun. He's yeah, he's a good kid. Uh. Luckily eight weeks or eight months, eight weeks he was born January one, there'll be nine weeks on Monday. Wow, how cute. Well, thank you very much. She got Dawson from Titanic. Oh okay, Jack Dawson. Uh huh. So she's had this name picked out for like to two years of her life. I'm not joking, so I'm but oh
I sweart of God. But I liked it. So when she first told me, thank you, Yeah, that's so funny that just had to pick up thank you, all right, that's gonna do it for this episode of Help I Suck At Dating. Once again, Dean, we are sending you our love. Please be safe and we'll see you next week. Genevieve, thank you so much for recording with us. We really appreciate it. I think you're gonna be on Thursday's episodes.
We have two episodes that come out each week, Monday and Thursday, or Sunday night and Thursday, UH, and I believe that you're gonna be on Thursday's episode as well, so we look forward to that. And we have a guest Geordanna Abraham that will be on Thursday's episode. But once again, thank you everybody who's listening. Please keep emailing us. We of course are let me get the email so
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