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it is awesome. You guys know they've been growing my hair out for a while. Actually, your hair is getting pretty long. It's pretty long. I'm in the in between awkward stage of where it's you want to know long enough so I either get a haircut or I just continue going. That's where I am. I feel like the awkward stage last is from three months to fifteen months. It's like the it's the range is so long. But thankfully Sugar Bear Hair allows us to grow some beautiful locks.

And I was gonna say earlier, I've been taking Sugar Bear Hair for I've been growing my hair for at this point, like eight or nine months. I'm still on awkward stage, as you're saying, but I don't think you are well, I think the awkward stage is starting to fade away. You were. I look back at pictures of us from promoting the podcast, probably like two months ago, you were in the awkward stage ten and I just

didn't know. You even made a comment the other day you were like, you know, I don't think I've seen you not wear a beanie for like seven or eight months, and I'm like, yeah, I'm still kind of in the awkward stage, you know what I mean. Like it looks decent, and it's flowing out the bottom looks like a mullet a little bit right now, and what I kind of like, Oh, I dig it. I love flow. That's like my biggest thing.

When especially wearing a beanie with the hair flowing out the back, you think like, well, Tom Brady two thousand six or whatever, the heck, he doesn't tend get it right, man, he was. I showed Actley a picture of Tom Brady from two thousand ten earlier today actually because we're talking about the awkward phase and hair, and I said, oh, what what he has the best Buddies thing that he was at. We saw pictures at him, and she says, oh, he looks his best right now, and I was like,

he does not. And I showed her a picture from thousand and ten we had the hair flow, and I was like, this was Tom Brady. Is I appreciate that you enough with yourself to give a man credit for his best looking phase of his life? Dean? How many times is a day do I tell you how good looking you are? I'm saying, I'm I appreciate that you're not comfortable. I'm very comfortable. You're very comfortable as well. I like that there's no toxic masculinity on this podcast,

Oh none at all. Honestly, Vanessa is probably the most masculine out of all. And that's you know, it's a compliment to her. She could definitely, I think Vanessa could easily beat us up. Probably at the same time. Yeah, I bet you she could squat more than me. She's got some powerful thighs, legs. And again I mean that respectfully too. Yes, I'm not compliment and she's strong down there. I'm single. Vaness has got some hot damn legs. I'll

tell you that right. Let's just hope her boyfriend doesn't listen. To that or her or anyone listens. Very embarrassing. And I know, thinking about it because East and you're sitting right nest to us as well. I'm not going to say you're not, you know, a masculine man, but I think you're in the same group as us. We're we're just self aware. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You're delta hand when you're born, and you've got to either play that hand or pretend you have something else, and we're just

playing the handword playing the hand. We're doubt well, we're very excited to be here at Wango Tago. Like we said, Jonas Brothers, Taylor Swift is performing. We're also gonna have a guest, uh coming Jared. Before you talk about the guests, though, I have something really important to do. Perfect it's not good dating with Dean, Vanessa and Jared and I heard radio podcast. How could have we forgotten about our intro song? We were flowing pretty well without an intro song. I'm

pretty proud of us. Yeah, that was really good. So tell us what we're gonna have on today. So we're gonna have a guest that was formerly part on the Bachelor, So a Bachelor alum. I won't say who it is. It's a female. She will be on the podcast in a little while. What was that sound, by the way, that was my phone? I'm sorry, what are you doing? I was texting Vanessa about her legs. All right, Well, that's a fair stating. So we're excited to have her come here and talk to us about her dating life

and what she's up to. Now, let's before she gets here, what should we ask her? What kind of questions do you want to have for you spoiled it? Dean? Are you spoiled last week? I spoiled this week? Now we're even all right, that's fair. Well, we have karn Olympias on the podcast today, well, obviously talking about her dating life, what she's up to. Now. I feel like it was a genuine mistake. I didn't mean to spoil that. I know.

I wonder if she's going back on paradise. Yeah, you never know who's going to be on paradise, you know. So we're here at Wango Tango. Who are you most excited to see? I am excited. Well, I'm just happy to be here, honestly with you. I'm always happy to be with you. Um, I've heard there's new Kids on the blocker Here God, here we go. Yeah, keep going Backstreet Boys in Sync, in Sync is reunion? Yeah. Jonas Brothers are here. Yes? Do you know a Jonas Brothers song?

Are you Jonas Brothers? Guy? I honestly couldn't name a single one of their songs. Have you heard Sucker? That's a pretty popular one right now. Here's my thing. I know all the names, I could recognize the names. I don't know any of the songs. I probably don't know many lyrics. I'm not big into the Top forty um, which I know I am. I allowed to say that on the podcast because I hearts like all Top forty. You know, Um, you're just a little different. There's nothing

wrong with that. I love like alternative folk music and like that type of stuff. I don't know, No, I'm down. I like that kind of stuff too. Do you know who Greg Laswell is? Now? But I should look him up? Great artist. I love him a lot anyway. Um. So, Ashley is obsessed with the Jonas Brothers to the point where she bought her She brought her sister Lauren and her friend Lizzie here as well, and here today, here today, and they've been apparently Jonas Brothers fans for like ten

to twelve years. I have to constantly hear about these three guys, to a point where they even said, I heard this one time, that this is the first time they're bringing a significant other to a Jonas Brothers concert and they feel awkward about it because as if their level of obsession is so high. Yes, because apparently Ashley's.

Ashley's told me this. She said that she always envisioned that she was going to marry Joe Jonas and that was just gonna happen for her one day as she's aiming for shooting for the stars, literally I know, and then she settled for me the poor would she would you say that that's her hall pass? Is Joe Jonas? She has no hall passes. I don't have a hall pass. What do you mean tom Brady's your hall pass? I thought, no? What about unless unless a hall past with Tom Brady

is like getting dinner and playing football. What about Giselle? Now I'm not a big I mean she's beautiful. What if just what if Tom Brady approaches you and says that, Jared, my marriage has been in a rout lately. I know you're a big fan. My wife loves you and I need you to, you know, take her out shore a good time. And and what would you say, because he's like, look at this will motivate me to win another super Bowl for you and for Ashley? What do you say?

I mean, I would talk to Ashley and have a serious conversation and Shay, Babe, a seventh super Bowl is on the line right now. I must do with Tom Brady. Twist twist my arm, don't do it? I guess well. I used to be my celebrity cush. She used to crush, used to be Rachel McAdams. She was definitely Notebook or Wedding Crashers, which one. I love her both. But that's why she's so beautiful. Because Wedding Crashers she's she's very pale in that movie with dark hair and she's stunning.

And then in Wedding Crashers she's she yeah, she has red hair there and she's beautiful. My favorite movie of hers is Red Eye. That's where I think she looks badly. I've seen that one Eastern perked up right there. I think Killy and Murphy is the villain on that. Yeah, yeah, he's great. He's great movie. It's directed by r I p um Um, director of Scream. Oh my God, What's what's cravin? Yeah, Richard mcgam is also in DCTR Strange. I'd like to point that out. Oh that she is

so Dean. You're not in a relationship, but who's who's your celebrity crush? I feel like we talked about this at least once a month, and I don't know. I think I think, actually I maybe she was God, here we go. You know, Dean's just always making things awkward? Is it a my celebrity crush? Like if I go by who I follow on Instagram, it's Slowan from Entourage. I've always followed her, always had a big crush on her. So I actually just went to Goal on Third, which

is owned by Kevin Kevin Conley. Uh, I saw him there. We were just looking at his name up the Yeah, like the last time we did the show. Realized, yeah, if it's only because Kevin Connley is good friends with like Wahlberg or something, but he's friends with DiCaprio and he owns the bar. So it's called Goal on Third. It's a sports bar. I went to go see the Buruins and Watch the Burns. Was there? No, Kevin was there. I don't care about Kevin. I care about Well, she

wasn't there. Unfortunately, that's my celebrity crush. I was. That was a long explanation of who my celebrity crush would be. Okay, I don't know what she looks like. But then also, Galgada is really beautiful. Brenda's song Constance Woo, even though I've heard she's not the nicest person in the world.

So if you go to Paradise, you're going to tell the producers when they ask, hey, who do you want to see down here, You're gonna say, I want to see wonder Woman in a hypothetical world where I went to Paradise. Hypothetic. This is all hypothetical. Yeah, yeah, it's help. I second dating, Hypothetically, we suck at dating. Yeah, you're getting engaged, you're getting married next month, a couple of months, a couple of months. But I mean, technically I could

still suck at dating. That's true. You just have to ask Ashley whether I suck or not, and whether she's making a sacrifice. We should actually have an episode of actually on at some point. Yeah, I agree. I think it would be interesting to hear her point of view of what it's like dating man. But I want her. I want me and her in a room, just us to twenty minutes, and then she leaves. You come in twenty minutes. I'm gonna ask you guys the same questions.

It's gonna be like a love game. And then actually twenty minutes of you and then twenty minutes all three of us together. Well, we just got to make sure our story straight before we do. Know we're gonna spring it on your surprise. I'm gonna start formulating this Eastern You're gonna be my accomplice, and we're gonna make this happen.

It would make for a very compelling podcast. I think we're very open with you each other, and we talk a lot, so I don't know if there wus be a lot of things that we're on different wavelengths a lot about because like anything that bothers her about me, she lets me know immediately, and then things that bother me about her I don't really talk about. But honestly, a lot of the things don't bother me. Oh, very nice,

A lot of things don't bother me. It's more so. Um, because anything that bothers me, I try to rationalize in my head, why is bothering me? Shouldn't be bothering me? Yeah, exactly. It's I feel like it's more of a detrim it on me than on her. Does that make sense. It's more of a reflection on your inability to understand why it's bothering you than her ability to change what she's doing. Exactly, Yes,

and I agree. I've shared that sentiment in the past. Yeah. Um, I saw her Instagram store the other day where she was like coming home from the concert or something, and she was like creeping on you through the window, and You're like, that was pretty funny. It was last night. Oh that was last night. Yeah, it was last night, and I was doing the dishes by myself and over you. Oh my god, look he's drying the plate. Now, he's

the cutest, most perfect man in the world. If that's not a microcosm of like who I am deep down to my soul just doing dishes by myself. It tend o'clock on a Friday night. You know what, you did it right because you were marrying a woman that can appreciate the small things like you doing the dishes without her being there. I think that's a big thing. Yeah, well, I think Ashley and I compliment each other very well. Do you guys give good compliments for each other all

the time. I love whenever you say Ashley and I Ashley and I because it sounds like Ashley I, and that's like, obviously Ashley and I. I really should be the one changing my last name. JAREDI Conetti, Jaredikennetti. How often do people ask every day? Is she gonna be Ashley Age? Is that right? No, Well, she's gonna be Ashley Han, which is really weird. The fact that she's

gonna be a Haven. That's it, like the actually you know, actually I actually So she's gonna keep now she's not gonn hyphen it, She's but she's gonna say right now Connetti on like her her brand is still gonna say her braind is gonna be like Ashley I. But technically speaking, her name will be Ashley Nicole Haven, which is weird to think about. Yeah, because I feel bad because Ashley and Lauren are the last two I Canetti's right, So the poor I Canetti name. I'll marry Lauren and we'll

just take Lauren's last name. So no, no more on Glert, I'm done to get rid of Ungler. It sounds like a weird last name anyways, on Gla what is that Jerman? Yeah, but here's the thing with Ungler, I've never loved the last name because it does sound like you're gagging every time you say like Glert, you know, luten blurked. The nice thing is it's very uncommon and so like I'm the only Dean Angler in the world if I remember correctly. You know, that's a pretty cool thing to be able

to say. If I were to become Dean I Connectie, I probably would still be the only one, but yeah, probably. But similar to how people know Ashley is actually I Conettie, Dean Ungler is like, oh, you're the only Dean Ungler, you know what I mean? Yeah, but people only knew he was Danny Babies. That's a good point. So that's like you're the last name too, Babies. Yes, it's pretty much. It's explaining idea. Maybe that's why I suck at dating?

Why do you think you're second dating? What's the number number one reason why do you think you suck a date? Because I self brand myself as a baby. I mean that's up there, I'll say that. And your license plate is your license plate still Deanie Babies? Yes? It is? Is it? Really? Yeah? I've got Danny Baby license plate. Baby Deanie Baby is my motorcycle license plate and Vanny Baby is my van's license chairs Vanny Baby. How's the van life coming? It's great. I'm a weekend the van life.

I have appointments to get my solar pane installed, my roof recks getting instelled next week. Has anybody slept over in the van yet? All right? Just asking just me, have you invited anybody back to the van? No? I just thinking I'm going out to the bars in the just curious. I think that's what people are most interested in.

I mean obviously your ex you know, your adventures in a van, but also the idea of like, say you meet someone and you're like, hey, if I don't, if I live in the van for a year and I bring zero people back to my van to sleep, to stay the night with me, I will be perfectly happy with that, as you will should because I think this is more of a self discovery right part of your life. Would you say that that's not really self. Yeah. I mean surely everything I guess we can do is we

can say is self discovery. It's mostly just like uh yeah, um yeah. I think I talked about this last week like I have at the bar. Actually last week with my friends, we went golfing and then we went to the bars afterwards, and we were like they were like dancing with girls, like talking to girls. When I was sitting in the corner, I was like, I really don't want to be here. I have no interest in like meeting girls and like hitting on girls or anything like that. Um,

why is that? I don't know, it's just like kids, just I've lost all interest in it, you know. I mean I think it's a your over it kind of or is it more just where you are right now? You just think part of it is the fact that I know that it's so impermanent of me being in this area. So it's like, oh, if I'm gone for the next nine months recording my podcast obviously every week, and obviously I guess we're not losing dean. Um, that's like, what's the point. You know. I don't want to waste

anyone else's time. I definitely don't want to waste my own time. Um so yeah, and so you just plan on because I think that is an interesting part of the van life is you you do have roots here in Los Angeles with the podcasts and other avenues of work, but you're also going to be traveling so much so have you kind of started mapping out exactly where you want to go and what you want to do with your van? Uh? Yeah, I have where's your first stop? Um,

I'm going to drive it up the Pacific Northwest? Okay, check out like Seattle up there all the way. Are you gonna go to Canada all the way all the way to the tip of North America. I'm gonna go find some Polar Bears. Um yeah, I'm gonna go up there, and then I'm gonna come down into like the Rockies and explored Rock East for a little bit and then go to Central America and South America. Depending on my ability to record a podcast, I think it'll be easy. I'll have to do is get a Mike Vanessa does

it from Montreal. Montreal and like the Rocky Mountains are basically equal in terms of Wi Fi capability. Sure the van has great sound quality. It does. I've sound proved. I literally built a recording studio in my van for the sole purpose of recording on podcast from It's quite impressive. It supposed to be one big gas van. It's big. It's just me Jared to me in the studio every week and Mark and Marko and Mark and so being Eastern Marco, the three of us. Yeah, it'd be fine.

You know. I think it's good times. This is really gonna work. I'm pretty confident in our ability to make this work. I agree. So when you're driving up the Pacific coast, actually, sorry to interrupt you, Um, I might drive it out to your wedding. I think did say that. Now you're driving across country, I mean that's do you like being in a car, because for me, I don't think I would be able to do this because I hate being in a car and I get I get car sick unless i'm driving. But I also don't like

driving from than probably four hours four hours. And then I started getting a little anxious. Right, But so my friend is moving to Boston and she's like, yeah, I'm moving back, Like, let's road trip across the US and you can just bring me to Boston. And at first I was like, now, that sounds lame, And then I realized I was like, well, I mean I kind of bought the van to see all of America anyway, so you might as well drive at east and see all

those states over there. Um. But it's not like you're in a car for thirty five hours because it's basically your house, you know. So it's like, if you want to stop and play a video game for an hour, you can do that. You want to look like watch Netflix, you can do that in the comfort of your own house essentially. You know. Did we ever ask where the initial thought of you living in van came from? Like what really sparked it? Maybe when I saw Free Solo

and alex Hoandold just really just crushed it. I was like, you know what, I should probably do that. Did you see a movie Into the Wild? I just feel like that would inspire you too. I almost destroyed my driver's license after that movie. Same. It's a story Chris McCandless I think his name is It's It was a book, you know. I read the book in high school. I read Quota school. What was those notes? What was that notes?

Spark notes? We're you just big spark note guy? I was just a big like, hey, let me borrow your paper and make my own out of it. Did you cheat through high school? Oh yeah, big time for sure, college too. We're you a good student? No, my My high school gp A was maybe like a three point to my college gp was like a two point five. That's not terrible. It took me five years to graduate three point two. That's not bad. I mean high school. Yeah, I mean it's whatever. I guess it's what was yours?

That's like a b uh, probably right around there. I just was I was never that great of a student. I never applied myself. I was like, I don't need to do homeworker study. I'll just take the test and be okay, you know what I mean. Yeah, you seem like the guy who's actually smart and could have been a great student, but just never applied yourself. Application is

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from Ingo Tango. Thank you sugar Bear Hair for letting us be here, but we're just so isolated here, and an email allows us to reach out and almost physically touch the listeners and listen to their stories and then respond to them and almost have a conversation with them. And that's why I love emails so much, because it just makes it so much more personal. It does make it more personal, and my favorite emails come from one

person in their person. This person's name is anonymous because I just feel like anonymous really opens up because they're anonymous and nobody knows who they are now. This email is titled no Closure. My girlfriend dumped me in January randomly on the phone and we haven't spoken since giving me no closure. Although I feel like a lot of me has moved on, I still think about her quite a bit and definitely miss her. Recently, my friends stubled upon her on Bumble, which surprised me as she is

not into hookups at all. Lastly, I saw her edit a picture of us on her v s c O, changing the caption to miss you. This has just made the idea of closure impossible and has me asking so many more questions. Do I reach out at all or do I just move on? It has been a while, and also I feel like I was not very respected in the relationship, but somehow I still miss her. Dean,

what are your thoughts on anonymous? I think that the fact that he is checking her its VISCO, by the way, not bs c O. I don't know what is that Visco? What is that? I still don't really know exactly, but it's it's like a It's like a photo sharing site you can put fun filters kind of like has it been around for a while? Yeah, okay. I think that

he obviously is still hung up on her. If he's even just going back and checking her pictures for captions and he noticed a change of in one of them to miss you, I mean he's obviously still clinging onto the past. I would just take the take, take take the blow. You know, you haven't talked to her, and it's what it's June. Now, that's four months, five months. I think you just need to forget about it, allow yourself to heal and move on, and allow her to

heal and move on. Stop trying to keep tabs on her. I know it's challenging and it's easy to say but harder to do. But I think that I especially if you didn't feel respected in the relationship, Like I couldn't imagine going back to a relationship that I felt disrespected. And you know, I guess I'm confused about he saw her edit a picture of us and change the caption

to miss you. So on her this visco on her visco, there's a picture of them, the two of them saying miss you, but they haven't spoken since she broke up with him, that's the confusing thing that's confusing. Or maybe she's just doing that to make another boy jealous fue I mean, if she is, then she's also also those like passive aggressive. It's the wrong term, but it's got the same meaning to it, where it's like, why are you doing that to convey any Are you doing it

for self healing? Are you doing it to prove a point to someone else? Are you doing it because you hope that this guy notices? Like what is the purpose of it? It's like subtweeting, you know, or it's like posting moody captions and stuff like that. It's just like, what's the point of it. It's it's attention seeky in my opinion, and it's so vague and ambiguous it doesn't get anywhere. All it leads to it was more confusion.

I personally don't think that he should be interested in a girl that thinks those methods are appropriate to communicate.

I'm here's how old she is or how old? Yeah, I definitely, because it sounds like something a nineteen year old to do, like change the caption to a person that they broke up with and saying miss you, because it's it's kind of like fishing for compliments, you know, how you'll say something that you feel insecure about because you're really just vocalizing it because you want somebody to say, no, you look great, you're fine. It's similar to that where

she wants you. She what she wants anonymous is she wants you to still be in love with her, but she doesn't want to be with you. She just wants the medal, but she's not even She said that she doesn't talk to her. He said that she doesn't talked to her since January. Yeah, but sometimes you put things online to kind of suggest certain things, and it's obvious that she knew that he was going to look on her profile, see the picture of them, and see that

the caption had changed to miss you. I suppose I just know that I've been nineteen and heartbroken and then this exact same situation. And it's easy for someone to be like, oh, yeah, move on, like I'm telling him to do now, and I think you are as well, But in reality it's a lot more challenging. All you can really do is just kind of I would I just stay busy by a van, Maybe distractating it. Just take off college to college, go to school, just quick college,

and just live the vagabond life. No, I agree. I feel like some people give advice saying that you should face it head on, but I agree with you. I think sometimes distraction is the best medicine because when I get distracted, then I get busy, and then I start thinking about other things. And then I do believe that time does heal all wounds. And so after a couple of months of being distracted and so busy, I already feel better about the situation because I feel distant from it.

I don't know. I guess that's not obviously that shouldn't be advice for every situation, because some situations you do need to handle straight on. But I think in this I agree with you. I think four months, just like distract yourself, try to get yourself away from the situation,

get some beautiful long locks. Looking at someone and looking at your ex girlfriend's profile online is like the digital driving by their house, you know, how like you know you and like twenty years ago you wanted sometimes like you drive by an excess house to see if their car was in the driveway, or just like see where they used to live or where you guys used to

hang out years ago. I was eight years old, so I was not saying you, but you've heard stories and watched movies where to drive by east and thank you that I would check their my space and then I get in my car and drive by their house. Well that you met you you double dipped in that one.

Not only did you do the online drive by, but then you physically got in your car and drove by their house and it's quite impressing interesting, And then just saw their car there and was like, all right, cool, I'm glad I did that as well as well, yeah she's home, I don't know. And then like if she wasn't home, what would you have done? I don't know, probably that she was doing something, yeah, something horrible. Yeah,

I mean I guess I've been there before too. Yeah, come on, we've all done that, all right, Dean, I have a question for you. We have a question from the Facebook group Help I Suck a Dating. If you guys do not have not joined the Facebook group yet, please join it. Help I Suck at Dating, face book group, podcast group, whatever it's called, and then also follow us on Instagram. Help I second dating. Dean runs that Instagram, which is why he just posted a selfie of himself

the last last time. I know I need to actually do a better job of like managing that profile. Well yeah, but that's okay. Um. So this comes from the Facebook group, and the reason I want to ask it is, Dean, you're single, you're out there. You know you're in the dating world. I was in the dating world until about a year and a half ago. So one of our Facebook members asked he needs help sliding into someone's d ms. How do you even approach that? What's something you should

be saying? How do you slide into someone's d m s without it coming off creepy? And to try to provoke a response? You want to know who would love to answer this question? Eastern Nick File? How well? Nick would be all over it. And Nick knows what he's doing unprovoked. He'll bring up all the time, his his sliding game, his response rate. He uh, he, he has this great method, and I have to give some credit for it because I'm sure it's effectively. What's his method? Says?

You find the girl that you want a d M, you go back maybe a month or two. In pictures find something like a picture of her with a dog, and like DM heard the picture dog, Yeah, look for the dog and be like that's a cute dog. What's its name? Or like something dumb like that, you know, and that way, like uh, initiates a conversation instead of like, hey, what's up? Why a month back? I'm just just just it's a blanket term. I don't generally speaking, just go

back into the pictures. Well. The only reason I'm asking why a month back? Because I wonder if it was intentional to look back on their profile so they know that you were looking through it. Yeah, I think that's I think that's the take on it. You go back to the very first picture they ever posted and just comment, comment like it, then send it to him and say, what a great way to start. That's actually pretty funny.

I like it. Actually, that's yeah, that's really good. I'm gonna go back to both of you guys first Instagram posts and see what we got here. It's terrible, probee how you started. I would go back to yours. But do you know how many pictures have you posted? I posted a lot. Let's see. Let's look at Dinatal To answer question, I actually do really like East and I actually think that's really funny. I don't know if it should be used. I don't think should do that, but

I like it. I think I like it too. Um do you think it comes off creepy? I mean, if it does, she's not the right one for you, yeah, I guess right. But but because we're using your method and then she's not the right one for you. But it's me that's saying it. You know what I'm saying. Now, you're gonna get in the weeds on this. I mean, all right, Eastern, I'm gonna give you. I'm gonna ask you a question right now. Who do you think has most has posted more pictures on Instagram of all time?

Me or Dean Me? You said you majors right after you went on the show. I did. I'm gonna say, Dean, you're According to the top of Instagram, Deanie Babies has posted four hundred and thirteen posts. According to Instagram, Jared Haven has five hundred posts. How how's that? How? How have you only posted fo times? Why did you create your Instagram and like two dousand eleven? I'm assuming you just never posted? Do you have a bunch of stuff? No? I don't, although I did recently going back in archive

all my pictures with my exes. Was Archive been just like you delete them, but you can always put them back if you want. So why didn't you completely the pictures with your ax? You know what if we get back together, all right, that's fair. I don't know, why would I do it permanently? We Well, it's kind of like the Forgetting Sara Marshall moment right where he's like going to delete all the pictures of Sarah Marshall and then he's and then Bill Hitters like, hey, you actually

didn't delete them. He's like, well, just in case I want to save them, and then Hayter and the reason back to your original point, The reason that you have so many more posts than me is because I think ever since you and Ashley became a couple, you post a picture with each other every single day, every single day on that's such a blanket wrong state. Just let me look at this. I'm scrolling every three three out of every four pictures as you and Ashley, which is great.

I agree, there's nothing wrong with that, But I'm just saying I don't have that, So that's why you're posting more than I Well. This is also like if I post a picture of myself knows a lot. Wow, I'm like fifty pictures back and I'm only in August of last year. You know. I just I look at it as as work sometimes, you know. But I think you gotta.

And the reason I post with Ashley so much is because I'll post a picture of myself and literally nobody will care like I posted, I think cool pictures of myself interested in well, I'm trying to balance the two, right. I want to post what I want to post, but I also want posts that do well that people who follow me find interesting. I think you just gotta follow your heart. I think my heart lies in the middle of both. Hi, Karin, Jared has prepared many, many questions

to ask. I have primared prepared none, but we're just gonna go right into it. Karin Olympios, thank you so much for joining us on the podcast. Who really appreciate it. Did you just get to Wango Tango? Yeah? How's your experience so far? Nothing has happened? Right? No, anoh has happened. I had a really long, trafficky drive here. Always my driver, Jimmy was the man. Did he talk a lot. He didn't. That's a that's a good thing, I know. Isn't it bad that it's always horrible when you're in an uber

and they always want to talk to you. Yes, And then sometimes when I feel like talking, like talk to me, I never find myself I want to talk into an uber? Do you seem like an uber talker? Um, Like you'll ask the driver where they're from, how they're doing, all that good stuff. It depends if if it's like tense when I get in and I can feel attention, I would like usually diffuse it with a couple of questions.

There's tension in an uber sometimes, I'm sure, Karin, you've been there before, right, Like, you know, you get in and since he's having a bad day, and you're like, okay, let's make this a little bit easier for him. Okay, let's make sure that he knows that I'm a trustworthy guy. I'm not gonna do anything sketchy back here, although I did. Okay, So I got an uber like two weeks ago, and we were on our way to like no Vacancy or something, and it was nighttime. Um, and this was before I

did the not drinking thing. And I cracked a beer in the back and the Uber driver goes, oh, I hope you're not drinking a beer back there because it's against the rules or whatever, and I was like, I was like, it's against the law and not just the rules of the government, same thing. And I was like, crap, I just cracked this beer and I lied to it. I was like, Oh, it's just a soda ha ha. And then I was getting out and I was like, hey, listen, I'm so sorry I lied to you earlier. I actually

cracked a beer. I didn't drink any of it, but I just had to tell you the truth before I got out of here. That was one of the That was like my sketchiest super interaction I've ever had in my life. You're a big rebel. Um. Well, Karin, thank you for joining us once again. So you're obviously on Nick File season of The Bachelor, one of our dear friends. Uh. And then you were on Bachelor in Paradise, so that's where everybody knows you from. But where what are you

up to now? I am kind of all over the place right now. I'm developing some stuff with some studios and my book. I'm still working on it and getting into music soon and getting into music. So, Um, I have a voice this time that I've hit in my whole life. You want to give us a little sample right now? That's one still working on. That's what I'm still working on. You're going to be performing at Wingo,

you know what. That's going to be my my goal. Friend. Now, have you always been a singer or is this a new revelation over the past few years. Um, I've always really loved singing, like a lot, like really good in the shower and like really good in my car. Who's your favorite artist to sing? Like, do you have a song that you're like, Oh god, this is my go to right here? I am so good at singing Justin Bieber, I like pitch match him. I don't know what the tone is, I mean the word is, but like I'm

like really good at like matchic. You're like, you're like Nick Cannon from Drumline. You can't read music, but you can knock get out of the park if you hear someone do it first, exactly exactly, That's exactly it. Oh, that's very interesting. And you're writing a book as well. What are you writing about your experience? On the show Yourself. So for I changed it already three times because I just like like not exactly like happy with it yet,

and it's just been like so along. I'm kind of just getting exhausted of it, and like I just needed to take a break from it because I was like, no, I can't be doing a project that I'm getting exhausted of, Like that's terrible. So like put it to the side for a few Now I'm back writing it again with my ghostwriter, and it's coming along really great. It is going to be kind of like a self help slash biography autobiography self help slash. That's three separate books. I

sense a trilogy coming, perhaps the karn Olympios trilogy. It's coming, guys. I really like that. So this is also a relationship podcast. It's called help I Suckit Dating. So the questions for you, Oh, man, well, I have a boyfriend. Yeah I knew that. Actually I've seen you see you posted about him, right, yeah, I always post about Yeah, that's true. So what's his name? What's this social Security number? All that good stuff? His name is John met So. Actually, I he lives in

New York. I live in l A And I was home in Miami for like music week, and my friend from high school. I was like, okay, you have to go out with my friends, Like they're going out tonight. I'm not, but like just like, here's this kid's number, like just hit him up, he'll take you out, like whatever. I'm like okay, And so I like face timed him and I was like Hi, Like I'm Currant, I'm coming

out tonight. He's like cool, like whatever, really cool guy, like hung the phone and like me, I was with my sister and me and my sister were like, you're going to date him? She was like, you're going to date him. I was like, yeah, I'm going to date him. And so we just dated after that. And how long has it been? I said that story really, I swear it actually wasn't that lame, but like it sounds pretty normal.

It was cool. It sounds cool. It sounds like you were excited to meet him, and you guys met and you hit it off, and sure enough you're still together. And then how long has it been? It's been over a year already. Oh my god, So are we thinking this could be? Uh? The one? I think? So wow, that's very exciting. A year is really when you have a good I would imagine I've never hit a year, but I would imagine that would be the threshold of like, Okay, I can actually see me spending the rest of my

life with this person. Yeah, a year is a good gauge to know which way this relationship is going. Yes, yeah, it was just it's just like I don't know, it's like a little bit, um how do I phrase this? We haven't lived together yet, and that's a big did you guys live together now? When we started living together once we got engaged. So we've been living together for about a year now, So you waited until you got engaged.

She John's like, I don't want to get engaged until like we lived together for like a little bit, Like that's fair. The only reason live across the country. It's not like we live in the same city and we don't live together. Like I live really far away. So you guys been doing long distance for a year now. Yeah, I mean I'm like nuts. So like I went there every weekend for a while, and like my team was kind of just like okay, like you can't do that.

Does he come here at all? No? He came here like three times, but like he he works, like I don't. I'm like a floater, you know, so he work. It's just a different type before Yes, exactly, thank you, of course, No, it's true. So do you guys do you try to see like each other once a month? Is that kind of like I know, like three times a month? Oh, that's really good. A buddy of mine was doing long distance for a whole year and it was every month they would switch off. That's a good, that's a good

for the listeners. Cran Can you give advice to someone that might be in a long distance relationship that you've learned that you can help them with, that would be able to help them in their relationship? I guess honestly, being in a long distance relationship, like you have to be on your communication like from the start, Like it was almost weird, like I never had this kind of communication with like anyone I've ever dated. Um he would answer every single phone call, and I was just like

what a guy sounds exhausting? No, like literally, but I wouldn't call him excessively. Just like any time I called, he would answer, and it was just like like texting like check in it, Like it was just nice. Yeah, no game playing yet, Like why the game playing? Like never was into that, nobody is, but somehow it still happens. Almost like guys got to cut it out like that was so like, get over it? Is he older? No,

he's actually my age? It weird. I hate that. I always said I would never date a guy that was my age. Actually a secret. He's like a few months younger than and like, I just like I hate that. Actually who cares? I don't know. I just like I feel like I need like like a protector, like a man. I'm younger than Ashley, are you? Yeah, by a few months. Yes, she's March. I'm November. Were the same age, but she's born about six seven months before me. Yeah, he's up. Yeah,

and I'm turning. What's your birthday? You getting calling it now? Eleven? Okay, I'm eleven fifteen. Are you a scorpion? Yes? I am obviously the best. Um so we're obviously at Wango Tango. Thank you you sugar Bear hair for putting this on for us. But who are you excited to see tonight? We've got Jonas brothers, we have Taylor Swift, all the people, all the peeps. Are you are you a Joe Jonas Brothers super fan, So that's your favorite Ashley's is Joe? Really? Yeah?

Which one? Uh? Nick is Nick's Bianca? No Joe is so Sophie Turner right, I don't know, yeah, yeah, see Easton knows what's up? And then Kevin, I think, what do you think of that couple Sophie and Joe. I don't know much about it. That is, so I think she could be dating something like honestly like Jonas Brothers,

you guys are geez, but she could be dating. So I think that's a great conversation for you to have with Ashley because Karn will also be on the almost famous I Heart Radio podcast, which is also recording live from Wango Tango. And I think that's a great conversation you should have with Ashley because I guarantee you my fiance will have many thoughts on this. Isn't Jonas like the pin cool of stardom in today's world or now? I don't think so, I think the pinnacle of stardom

in today's world. That's actually a great question. Besides the help I suck a dating co host, I would say right now, Bradley Cooper or Kiana reeves, that's wrong. You're just you. Just on that note, we gotta wrap up this week. Help by sucke Dating. Big thank you to sugar Bear Hair for longer, stronger, healthier hair. Be sure to check out sugar Bear Hair sugar Bear Sleep to

help fall asleep faster and sleep better. You can order both of those at sugar Bear Hair dot com, slash help that's sugar bear Hair dot com slash h E l P. Big thank you to Karin. Of course we're stopping by and saying hi, Um and Jared and Easton. Of course we're being here on a Saturday. Thank you, Dean, I was waiting for that. You're so welcome. You guys are so welcome. Um, thank you, Twango Tango. We're excited to go catch some shows and then one last time,

big thank you to sugar Bear Hair. Be sure tune in a couple of days. We're still gonna have a Tuesday episode this week, so we'll we'll we'll talk to you that. Yeah, it's Saturday, so hopefully on Monday we all suck a little less. Follow help by suck at Dating with Dean, Vanessa and Jared on the Heart Radio or wherever in the podcast he