Life on Other Planets with Kendall Long

seasons of Paradise. A little controversial this last season in Paradise. If I do say so, Uh, Kendall Long will be joining us and uh co hosting the episode with us. Before we bring Kendall Lynn, I do want to say something. Not to start off on a sad note, but we record this podcast on Friday, so I won't come until Sunday. But yesterday we found out, Oh hello, Kendall, you're here. Hey, how are you? Ken? I'm wonderful, now how are you? I?

I was just telling Dan, I don't want to start off the podcast on a sad note, but I do want to address this, and I do want to say something. Uh, fellow bachelorette contestant that was on my season. Clint Arless passed away yesterday at the age of four. Um, and I got to know Clint a little bit on the show. He was only there for not only there, but he

was there for a couple of weeks. UM. I don't know, Dean if you remember watching that season or Kendall, but he had the uh the bromance with j j um oh, the bromance guy. Yes, and yeah, I was really it's just very stunning news, shocking news. Sad thirty four gone way too long, way too soon. Excuse me, Um, do

we know what happened to him? We do not, And UM, you know, I'm just sending my condolences out to his family, UM and everybody that uh, you know he was a part of with their lives and he just you know, it was funny because we had um a text threat going. I'm Dean and Candle. I'm sure you guys have the same thing of like all your contestants from the show.

And it was, you know, at first, everybody was kind of texting back and forth and then it started petering out and the two guys that kept the text chain going where JJ and Clint, and they would legitimately just text back and forth in this group chat. So I would always look down and there'd be sixty new text messages on my phone and it would only be JJ and Clint going back and forth. Um. So I just wanted to say that, Uh, you know, Clint was a

good guy. The last time I saw him was JJ's wedding. Uh, and uh he was happy and um he looked good. So again, just sending my condolences to the family. He's a bachelorette legend. I uh, you know, I wasn't really a fan. I thought I wasn't a fan. I just didn't watch the show much going into when we filmed our season, and um, the one person, not one, but I guess the two people that the producers kept referring to time and time and time over and over and

over again was Clinton JJ. They would always talk about how they had like the best bromance and they would take showers together, but like in a total best friend kind of way, and they would always like joke about it. They always be like, you know, you're here to find love, You're not here to take showers with guys. No, seriously, like that used to happen one season these two guys like fell in love with each other, so they would bring it up like every chance they got. So definitely

sad news. I'm sorry that, you know, for everyone involved, that is never never anything good. But hopefully hopefully more news comes out about it, we figure out what happened, right, Like, I don't know, but I just I want you know, he was a funny guy, made me laugh a lot. So again, gondolences the family. So I didn't want to start off on a sad note, but I did want to address that. Um. Yeah, no, I think that's good.

I appreciate you bringing it up. I I because I honestly never would have known enough about it to bring it up. So it's I'm you know, I'm glad that you did, and I you know, he's a buddy of yours, so I'm sorry to hear that, and like you said, condolences, but yeah, we can't. We can't be somber all episode. So Kendall, welcome to the podcast. Are you had to jump in at an opportune time? No, that's definitely fine. I'm glad we talked about it. Yeah, well how are you?

How are you? Candle philis in? What's going on? Over there. I'm good. H I'm not to add more bad news, but my my dog just had I v d D and had to have um spine surgery some kind of healing him. He's on the mend um he will um so his disc at his back herding aidd so it was bleeding around his spine and so he was unable to use his back legs. Um. So he was just paralyzed from the waist down. So he just had to

go in for emergency surgery. So not to add more sad things, but I've kind of been dealing with that for the past. Yeah, that's a lot. I've been following along on your Instagram stories and so that happened today. Like what is the current status he's in surgery. No, so he was in surgery probably about five days ago and now he is, uh he's at home finally and recovering.

So um, he's definitely have much use of his back legs, but we're kind of like rebuilding rehabilitating him, waiting from the heal enough so we can start, you know, doing therapy and stuff like that. But yeah, he's just frustrated because he likes running around and doing things and following people around and getting in everyone's business and he can't do that, so he's just very frustrated. But do do dogs have waste? Kendall? I mean, yeah, they have a

good waste, whether you know. Yeah, definitely has a waste. Okay, I agree, you're right, probably just right above their hips. That makes sense. Um, I did see I did see your posts as well. It's very sad. That's pretty Is that pretty common in doxins, the like those spinal court issues. Yeah, it's very very common. And I'm his fourth home, so I don't really know what his past was or his history, so a lot of things could have started it. It was very sudden, um and just one morning he woke

up and it was he was just paralyzed. So um so yeah, but luckily my sister moved in, so she's helping out out a lot with that. So how is he able to get around? Does he have like a wheelchair or is he just kinda right now? It's so soon after surgery, so he gets his staples out in about like ten days, but we just carry him around everywhere. Here's a lot of diapers and changing of things. Um, and I'm actually getting him a stroller, so that's coming in the mail and a wheelchair, so he's going to

be mobile soon. Yeah. How old is this dash man? He's three? So yeah, so very young, but usually in dashounds it starts around the age of three and two three onward. So how has he been rehomed? How has he been in four homes? And he's only three years old? I got him and he was one. I feel like you've had him for a long time. Yeah, I have, well, and they don't only have a lot of records on his history, but he was at the kill shelter and

then he was at another shelter. Oh yeah, so he was his original home, then he went to a kill shelter, that another shelter, and then I took got him from that shelter. So that's crazy. I know, I know doctins are kind of a handful, but that's three homes in one year. I mean, kidness, he came along. Yeah, No, he's he's great. He's he's my best friend. So you know, he's gonna be fine, hopefully, but he has an eight

percent chance of walking again before surgery. It was so yeah. Yeah, it's definitely not easy to watch your best friend and your favorite little animal go through those things. So yeah, it's like you're definitely sending you are best as well. I know it definitely as like a kid. It's crazy because we talked about this too when when we had

to put Pappy down. It's you don't realize how attached you are to your pets until something like this happens to them where you have to put them down or they become Oh, I'm fully aware of how attached that in too. Lois currently I'm drinking coffee out of a mug that says Lois Is dad. Oh it's so great. Yeah,

that is very great. But I guess it does put things into perspective, Like Kendall, I'm sure once Pistachio is running around again, you're really going to appreciate his ability to like be mobile a lot more than you would have before. It's just, um, yeah, it's just it's it's it's definitely tough. So we're sending you our best. We're sending Pistachio all the positive vibes we possibly can. I will hope that he will heal so oh yeah, he's

gonna be no time. Yeah, so we do. Obviously we're dating podcast Candle and you've been on this podcast numerous times. We I always mentioned that the first time I ever record did a podcast on here was with you and a while ago. Dude, every time I say this, Dean, you always say, oh, I didn't know that. That's like the third time I've mentioned it, and that's the third time You're like, I didn't. Thanks. Thanks for sharing that

fun fact that I never knew. I appreciate that. So, Kendall, the last time we saw you was obviously on Bachelor in Paradise, so you left single. What's been going on in your life after that? Um? I'm dating around and doing stuff. Um it's the dating scene like in l A right now. UM, it depends. I would say that you get him a mixture of different kinds of people. UM, but I usually prefer to meet someone through a friend or someone that I trust. Um. Dating apps are kind

of they're little intimidating. UM, but yeah, I don't know. It's it's been interesting. I've gone some fun adventures. So there's so you said the dating apps are intimidating for you. Can you imagine what the guys think? Because I was when you said it was intimidating for you all. I could think about was like, if a guy was scrolling through, and I can say this because I'm married and Ashley

agrees with me. We think you are one of the most beautiful contestants to ever be on the show, and you're intelligent and savvy and have so much going for you. If I was a guy going through and I saw you and then it was like, oh that girl was on Bachelor, they would be super intimidated. So how is it intimidating towards you? Like, what do you find intimidating about dating apps? Because I feel like some of the

time everyone always does. You know, they're searching and everything, and if you look look at my name, you see my face sobbing and you are making out with somebody. Um So, it just it's weird to have someone know you so personally before you have a chance to really get to know them first. Um So, yeah, you just never really know people's intentions. And I don't only translate that well over text. I don't think I'm not really that funny over I don't know. I'm like more like

an in person or phone call kind a person. I can see. I can envision a scenario where you're texting someone and you're thinking, oh, I'm going to give them the funniest line, and you send it and it just comes off completely wrong. Yeah, I'm not that. I'm not

that funny. That's why I failed on Twitter, and no one thinks I'm funny on Twitter, so I just don't think that isn't the worst too, when you're like in a group chat or something and you say something and you're like, this is gonna everyone's gonna laugh their ass off at this, and then you send it and like no one even validates it with a response. You're like, oh, come on, yeah, I give but perfectly. Yeah. I'm the same way too. It's like I don't know, maybe like

too sarcastic or to dry humor. So it doesn't like even my friends they're always like they'll bring up my texting and they'll be like, yeah, you like you're like really bad at texting. I'm like, what do you mean? I text you back pretty regularly, like or pretty quickly, and they're like no, just like you're like really short and you're always like cold and texts. I'm like, I'm intending to be that way. I feel like I just embellishments and need embellishments. Yeah, there's not enough fluff. I

guess maybe my lack of capital letters. U um. It is funny to Jared's point though, I remember back when I was, you know, in my single days, back in my studying days. So I was on the dating apps and uh I saw Becka Tilly and Kaylea Quinn on the dating app on like Bumble or something like that, and I was like, Wow, these girls are so pretty.

They had like professional photos, they had a little blue checkmark, and I was like, there's no way in hell these girls are ever going to be interested in talking to someone like me. So, Kendall, if someone were to come across like, let's say you're dating profile or like meets you at a bar, what would be that kind of

like their way of getting your attention? Um? Well, I would say recently, people have drawn my attention if face can say something that I didn't know about or teach me something new like um um, or if I bring up something and they have something to add to the conversation.

Like I was recently talking about like a moon on Jupiter that could potentially harbor life and there was like a study about it, and then this one guy was like, Oh, you mean like this moon and he had like the name of it, and I was like, that's really dang impressive. Um So I don't That's usually something that catches I when someone can kind of yeah something cool like that. I mean, it would be pretty cool if you're had life on it. But it just frozen water all across

the entire surface of it, isn't it. But it's possible. If it's frozen water, then that could potentially harbor life. Maybe not. I don't know anyway, but yeah, it's interesting. See there are cool people out there, see I I kind of envisioned you with somebody opposite of that kindle if I'm being honest, because I think that you're so knowledgeable that you even on your Instagram, the way you

tell people facts about different aspects of life. I think if you were with someone that that was very receptive to that but was unaware of some of that, I think that could work. I've been with a lot of listeners. I don't like when people are like that. I don't know.

I like when someone can say something else besides like awesome and cool, you know, because I be in conversation with people or I don't know anything that they're talking about, and they're probably thinking, I'm not in putting anything good conversation. I mean I have interests in very niche subjects. I like a good debate or like a good bante. Well. I remember one of the first times I ever talking to you. We were talking about like something in great

not digging up graves. But it's just like the conversation went off the rails. Do you remember this at all? Because you gave me a ride. This is when I was living with Nick and after we record of the podcast, and you gave me a drive back to my apartment, which is very nice of you because it was out of your way. But I didn't have a car in l A at the time, and I all the way to downtown. Unbelievable, right, what a sweetheart? So far out of the way is crazy? I like car and it's

a good conversation, Like long car rides are fun. Like stuck in the conversation there's no way out, and what the hell I don't know we got on the conversation. I think of like, what is it? What is it called? What is the event called? When you go to watch the movie at the graveyard? Oh, the cinema, the something something like that. Yeah. So anyway, the point is we got on that conversation and we started talking about you had like all these interesting facts about death graves and cemeteries.

And I cannot remember what the conversation was now, but it was pretty enlightening and fascinating. Oh interesting. I'm trying to think. I go through like a random It depends on I'm reading at the time, so it's probably reading something that had to do with that, and but um, yeah, so if I do remember that, it was a really interesting conversation. Yeah. Isn't that funny how you're because I haven't.

I do it all the time too. You like read a book and uh, it like touches a couple of subjects, and then all of a sudden you think you're like an expert on that subject and you try to bring it up in the conversation as often as you can. I do that all the time. Oh, It's how It's how I can have conversation with people. It's like, I'm like, still, there's this book I was reading. I read Bigcoin Billionaires, and I was like, oh, I know everything there is

to know about bitcoin. Alright, guys, that's good. That's also very I don't know anything about that, so that's where I lack intelligence. So it's good to have conversations with people that can like teach something new and give us a give us a rundown on the bitcoin dude stuff. It's just the story about how the Winkel Fox twins became billionaires in bitcoin. It wasn't really, I mean, an interesting fact was the first First of all, I'm this is kind of a widely known fact, but no one

knows who actually created bitcoin. It's still unknown. It was a Toshi Yacumata or whatever the heck his name is. Yeah, there's a lot of um speculation about who it is, and a lot of people think it was Elon Musk, which I don't think it was, but no way, no way. But the first transaction ever, uh with bitcoin. I'm sure you guys know this as well was pizza. Somebody bought a pizza with it. And because it was an online forum, bitcoin was obviously still not mainstream, and it was it

was a forum for just bitcoin. And then somebody was like, hey, I will give anybody on this forum a hundred bitcoin if they bring me a large cheese pizza right now. So somebody said, okay, I'll do it. So he went got the pizza, delivered it. They transferred a hundred the hundred bitcoin and that was the first transaction ever and that hundred bitcoin is like now worth like two point five billion dollars or pizza pizza. Yeah right, you want to you want to know who I always have envisioned

to you dating. Not to get off the subject a bitcoin. I want you. I want you and my best friend Alex to be boyfriend and girlfriend. He's he's so intelligent, he'll he'll you could bring up a fact and hell, this is actually one of the reasons that we always fight is because he speaks a matter of factory all the time that even when he doesn't know what he's talking about, he he sounds like he does, and so like you have no choice but to believe him because

you don't know what he's talking about. Um, it's funny because Caitlin says, I do that all the time as well. But you guys, I could. I would just love to be on a fly on the wall in one of your conversations because I feel like you guys would bounce off each other really well. Granted, he lives in Gross Point, Michigan and you're in Los Angeles. Um, and you're two weights too good for him anyways. But I just think that you guys would be a good little pair. No,

I do think. I think. I think he's really fascinating. Um. I've had conversations without conversations with Alex before, and UM, yeah, the distance thing would be very difficult. That's partly I have a lot of triggering things because of that. I've had multiple relationships that have ended because of distance. So yeah, most most famously the one with Joe. I would suppose, right,

who's that? But um, but yeah, for me, again, like I'm a very in person kind of person, and the lesson with someone in person, it's really hard for me to grow something. Well, Because I remember you talking about a prior on this podcast about how long distance would be extremely difficult for you because you don't want to move from southern California because your twin sister is there, and I remember you describing it as your twin sister is your soul mate, so to speak, and you need

someone who can understand that and enter your life. H knowing that, would that be an accurate description, I would say it's not that I would never move ever. Um, it's more so that if there can be some form of relationship that is developed here or in some way could be developed, and then if there was a proper conversation that it made sense to move somewhere else, or if I can get a job somewhere else, Like I like being independent. I don't like depending on everyone's friend

group and job and everything. Like I like to have my own thing going on or else. You know, I don't know, I get really frustrated and boards. So yeah, yeah, I just don't want to live off of somebody. I'd rather live live like equally with somebody right alongside someone. I think that's definitely very important too, And that's something I always I haven't mentioned in in previous conversations too,

is I definitely agree. It's like you should be independent of each other and then you come together and it's great. It shouldn't be like one person lying on the other person for anything or anything otherwise. But all right, well, Kendall, we're gonna take one quick break. We've got some great dating topics we would like to discuss a little deeper with you, So for the listeners, stay tuned through the break, We'll be right back, all right, welcome back to help.

I suck at dating Dean myself, Kendall, we do have a couple dating topics we do want to get to, including one about Kanye West being accused of recreating an iconic photo of him and himself with Kim Kardashian, but

he did it with his new girlfriend. Now. I don't know, sounds gonna wacky, but I did have some questions, Kendall, about you in this past season of Bachelor in Paradise because watching it was I think difficult for a lot of audience members because they've fallen in love with you and Joe and seeing two people just not work out.

Because most of the time when relationship ends, it ends because it's it's bad, right, Like something happens, somebody cheated, one person falls out of love, and you know, we don't know the specifics of what happened with you and Joe, but it really felt like it was just two people that like cared about at each other and it just didn't work out. And so when you went back on Paradise,

what was your mindset? Did you go back thinking, Hey, I'm gonna go and try to date other people, or I'm going to go and try to see if I can work things out with Joe. Um. No, I definitely went on thinking I would date other people. Um. You don't go on a reality TV show to date someone that you have like two years of history with, you know, because there's just so much that you can't bring up on TV and you don't want to talk about publicly because you respect the person too much to like bring

in your dirty laundry. Um. And when I went on, I had people that I was interested in, and so, UM, I think I just didn't expect how much of a time machine going back would be. And uh, it was very difficult. Yeah. And then when you go in late you feel weird. You're like why am I here? You know, people already know each other, there's already like bonds developing, everyone's in a relationship. I'm not the kind of person that's gonna be like, hey, like, can I steal your

I don't steal people's guys. Like either there's interest, so there's not you know. So it was really awkward and weird. So and I wanted to ask because I feel like there's a lot of people out there that go through similar situations. Obviously they know date a beach right in front of their ax. Having said that, there are a lot of people that go and start seeing other people who might not be ready or are still emotionally torn.

And I feel like a lot of people ask us on the podcast, Hey, when am I going to be ready to start dating again? And can you give advice to anybody out there who might be going through a situation like that where they're wanting to meet other people but there's still something drawn back, you know, them back to their ex. What would you tell them, Um, it's hard to leave what's comfortable and what's familiar. I think

there's safety in that, um. And so for me, when I was in a position that felt so unsafe and awkward, I was feeling like I wanted to go back to something that felt safe and felt sure. Um, but when you can't do that, uh, I don't know. Like now, in the real world, I feel like whenever I see safety in somebody, that's when it's like a good sign that, um, I can move forward with them, you know, I don't.

I don't know if there's a specific like thing that happens just all of a sudden it becomes easier, and it's easier because, um, because conversations get easier, or you find interest in somebody, like you develop a friendship first with somebody. If that makes sense, I'm not sure. If it's no, Yeah, that totally makes sense. I guess my question was, um, you know, it's never like there's no

right answer. That's the issue when people ask like, hey, should I you know, should I take time for myself and not go on dates or should I just go on a bunch of dates and kind of like try to move on or should I focus on myself? And it's really difficult to answer the question. I feel like DNA and I continue to go through this process of like trying to give it the best advices we possibly can.

And that's why I wanted to ask about your advice because we saw it kind of play out with you on National TV whereas you were told and it was like, yeah, there's I'm ready to date other people, but I'm still kind of feeling things for my ex and it's really weird and and you're not. I feel like so many people go through that and I wish I could give

better advice on it. That's all you think you're over your X until you see them in a public place and you're like, oh that I thought I was completely over, you know, Like I think you can all relate, even like if you're you know, maybe you're at the mall one day or you're out somewhere and then you see your ex walking and you're like, it's just like all of a sudden thing like flashes through. Um. Yeah, it's very Uh, it's just very surprising. I don't think we

can really, I don't know. It was for me. I didn't expect it. I didn't expect it to be. Well, there's a formula to it. You know what they say for every year you dated, you have to take one month to not date, So if you did it for two years, you have to take two months off. But I mean that's obviously just whatever that means, that's meaningless. Um, did you watch did you watch? That's what this is, like the rule of thumb? That makes it no sense that I heard one time that I think maybe you

might be valuable for some people to know. Did you did you watch Paradise Back? Um? I saw bits and pieces of it, but I didn't watch the full thing. Um. Yeah, yeah, I'm not a masochist sometimes for some things, I guess, yeah, but not for that that's that's reasonable. Um yeah, I would say I had a similar experience, but not even close to years, but like a little baby baby version of just when I went back to the beach and

Christina was there. Obviously Christina I didn't date for two years like you and Joe did and all that kind of stuff. But I agree with what you're saying, like it's very uh, it's not like traumatic, but it kind of like helps like puts things into perspective for better or for worse, you know. So Um, like I said, my situation can't even hold a candle tears, so mine was affecting me a little bit less. But I can definitely see where you're coming from with all that stuff.

And it's it's hard to like, like you said, you could be walking down the mall, through the mall and you see your X and all of a sudden you're like reminded, like flushed with all these memories, or you like mel his cologne that I guess you maybe like walk through by like the Nordstrom rack or something like whoa.

But and it's so hard because you know, full transparency that's happened to me while I've been with Ashley, and it doesn't change my feelings for ash but it's always it makes me feel guilty even though you can't help it, you know, like you see a picture of an ex or you hear news about it, like you just get like whacked in the face with all these memories and emotions and then people, you know, it's just like it's it's it's like wait a minute, no, no no, I shouldn't

be feeling this, and it's like no, no no, no, It's just it's a thing, you know, like everybody goes through it anyway. So that's my point to maybe, I guess, just make my self not feel as guilty. I think it's almost it's very difficult to never to not love somebody after you allowed them in and you've loved them. Um, so I think it's okay to love multiple people in

that way. But um it's weird when you knew someone so well they become a complete stranger and then you're reminded of like, oh, yeah, that was my best friend. Like that's weird, you know. It's like, but I can't

talk to them ever again. It's the worst too, when you hear about, like because you get close to people's families and friends and so you hear about things that are happening to them, or god forbid, they lose a family member, and it's like, I just want to reach out and just be like, hey, I hope everything is okay. But then it's that you know, you're like, wait, am I just being selfish to fulfill my own needs by reaching out and not actually to make sure they're okay,

but just you know, because I feel guilt. I don't really know. It's just a weird mind bleep. You make a good point to Kendall. It's interesting. Um, It's something experience when I was younger, but not so much my adult life, where when you go through a breakup, you are essentially like losing your best friend because like, let's face it, you spend all your time, most of your free time at least with this person. Um, And when you have like a best friend, like a platonic best friend,

whoever it is, you don't just go through it. There's not just like one moment where you're like, okay, you're no longer best friends, as you would in a relationship where there's like a defining moment that then breaks you guys up to no longer boyfriend girlfriend, which also means you lost your best friend as well as your partner. So it is like it's like a flux of emotions because not only are you losing your romantic partner, but

you're also losing your best friend. I remember I was having a conversation with my friend UM a long long time ago, after having just gone through a breakup, and I was like crying every day because of it, and he's like, dude, just get over it, like she was just your girlfriend, and I was like, she was more than that. She was my best friend. You don't understand, uh, And yeah, I so I fully agree with where you're coming from. It's like you're losing a lot more than

just a partner. You're losing your best friend. You're losing your roommate in a lot of cases too. Um. But I don't know, I don't even know where I'm going with this. It just it definitely, it definitely sucks, and then it sucks even more, and it's compounded even more when you have to see them uh day on television and subsequently get engaged. I think that I think that we shared this already. I can't remember if I have

with you here or not. But it was funny because that last day of Paradise, Kalen and I were walking out to the beach and we see this, We see this little blond girl pook her head out of her hotel room as we're walking the elevator. And was like, I didn't I didn't piece it together what was going on. And Kiln was like, you know, that was Kendall right there in the room, right And I was like, oh my gosh, no way, we're in for a real treat

out there in the beach today. Yeah. I didn't well, I didn't really know what day it was, all the things that were happening that day. Um, And so it was funny when I saw you guys, I was like, I thought you guys were going to get engaged or something like. That's what I thought I saw. Yeah, I mean, I'm sure, of course, why not, That's what I thought. So I was laughing because I was just like, um, I was like, oh, I know why they're here. I mean, I guess I didn't like even like associate it with

you know, why you were really there? So yeah, well yeah, but hey, whatever, it is what it is. Dared else you want to talk about besides morning the past? I mean I love morning past. Put on a little acoustic music. I would be good to good times. Put the shades down. I'll just cry myself to sleep. We do have some topics though, that I do want to get to. We have two hot topics before we get into emails. First, I gotta ask you guys a question. Would you drink

your significant others blood? No? Why? Why is this happening? I need the intention of drinking this blood? All right? Well, the headline, so I'm sure. I don't know if you guys are heard, but Megan Fox and Machine Gun Kelly, celebrity couple are now engaged, and apparently they sealed the union of engagement by drinking each other's blood. It's weird. Yeah,

I wouldn't do Yeah, it seems more so. That's that's more so like a for a headline, as opposed to I mean, maybe they genuinely believe it, or they have some sort of religious practice where that's you embody them. Yeah, cannibals that eat other people thinking that they'll always be a part of them because they've internalized them. Yeah, I don't know. So I heard about this too, and I'm trying to figure out exactly why they drank each other's blood.

This is not the first, but like apparently they were in a music video last year called Bloody Valentine. I think it's a machine Gun Kelly song and they call each other their twin flames and they said they had an instant connection and I can't find it now I'm losing. But anyway, they drank each other's blood to seal that they are like twin flames, and they it's kind of you know what it feels like, you know. I don't know Dean's you ever become blood brothers with someone? But

I never did that either, and I was ting. I almost did it one time. I remember, we couldn't. It was like I was probably six or seven. Maybe it was my buddy Jimmy, and we grew up together, and we thought it was going to be like the coolest thing together. You were still girl, you haven't even grown up yet. All right. A lot happened in my first seven years. A lot. Okay, I was like thirty at

that point in my soul. But we tried. I don't know if I don't remember if we got a knife or something, but I remember it was just like way too painful and we ended up not doing But the idea that we were going to do that in the first place is disgusting to me now, the fact that we're going to cut each other's hands and then put our hands together. Who our dude. I would never drink Ashley's, but I didn't know if I can be in the

delivery room, let alone. Like the idea of sipping on it, Like how much blood was it was like a cup of blood. Was it like a little cut where they like licked each other's cut or something. I bet you that's what it was. And they like suck there like they pricked their finger and then sucked it off the finger or something like that. That's my guest, Like that would be funny. I don't know. I can see that being like funny thing like where you just do it

because it's like a weird thing you do together. But um, to make it very serious like this is like that's like the next level, very satanic, and a lot of it would embody your soul. So in the Instagram caption that she posted when she announced Megan Fox that they were engaged talking about the work and the sacrifices of

the relationship. Blah bah blahah blah, and she said somewhere a year and a half later, having walked through hell together and having laughed more than I ever imagined possible, he asked me to marry him, And just as in every lifetime before this one, and as in every lifetime that will follow it, I said yes. And then we

drank each other's blood. That could be like a metaphor, yeah, you know, it could be a metaphor of like we drank in each other and I don't know, like the ether would drink in the aura of each other's blood, right, Like, I don't know if it's maybe they did literally do it. But I love that twin flames though, because my brother and his wife call each other twin flames all the time, and now all I can imagine is my brother and his wife drinking each other's blood. Well, it's a twin flame.

Is like when you wasn't there like a myth where you originally started out as two people combined or one person, and then you like somehow you're like split in half. You to keep finding the other. Zeus was fearful of the power of the superhuman, so he split them in half with his lightning bolt. Yeah, that's so interesting. Yeah, that was my favorite. That was my Platos and Posium short story. It's very good. So twin Flame is your own soul shared across what appears to be two physical beings.

It's the soul split into two bodies, right, Yeah, so the story, the story goes according to my philosophy on on one class in college, is uh in Greek mythology that humans used to have four legs, four arms, two heads, and Zeus was fearful of the humans overpowering the Greek gods, and so he split them in half. Of the lightning bolt, and the rest of the person's life from then on is finding the person that Zeus split you apart from, and that's like your soul mate or your twin flame.

I guess. I never I never thought it was. I never knew it was a twin flame aspect. But yeah, my brother and his wife called each other toWin flame all the time. Very cute, very adorable and machinegun Kelly say it, um, it's just a little creepy. I don't know what it is. Adorable, romantic, I don't know. That's a good question. You could be your twin Yeah, yeah, that's a fair point. Well, here are the six signs

of whether you found your twin flame or not. So when you meet this person, if you have a sense that you're meeting yourself, that's a sign that this is your twin flame. Possible. Also, you could have multiple similarities sometimes uncanny. These seem very vague. You have a deep connection, a desire to grow, prioritizzation of growth over being in a relationship, so you'd rather grow together than being a relationship.

So maybe it isn't romantic. Maybe you're right, Kendle, And then the meeting signifies a major change in your life. Those are super vague. I don't know if I like that. Yeah, yes,

pertained to a couple different people in my life. Those are like horoscopes where they're like, yeah, like maybe this will happen, or maybe you feel this way about something, And then they're so broad that they apply to basically anyone that's reading it and they're like, oh my gosh, that's me ya, Like Jared, Jared, you might be my twin twin flame, Kendall, Hey, by all means you could be my twin flame. Two because all want to be

each other's twin flame. That'd be great. The only way we have made it through his podcast for three years is because we're twin flames. Alright, last headline before we do emails. This is UH an article about Kanye West is accused of recreating an iconic photo of himself and Kim Kardashian with his new girlfriend Julia Fox. So apparently he recreated a photo that him and Kim took a very long time ago. If you guys don't know, Kim and Kanye broke up or got divorced? Were they married?

They were married, right, Yeah, so they got divorced, and Kanye has been very open about wanting to get back with Kim, and Kim is way too busy with her brand new boyfriend Pete Davidson. First of all, how do we feel about Pete Davidson and Kim Kardashian. It's a unexpected coupling. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know too much. Yeah, I think it's just because it's so wacky. I love Pete Davidson I always have, and the fact that he's

getting Kim Kardashian is like the coolest thing. I'm also someone was to be dating someone else, like some other girl, and then came with getting jealous and territorial or something wasn't she I have no idea, but I don't know how Pete Davidson like gets every girl in the world, but he's doing something right. Um. I also love Ben Affleck and Jennifer Lopez, Like I just love the idea of like a of a of a guy like Ben Afflecks, like that rough roality Boston guy who's like dating the

queen of queens and it's kind of similar. While I love Pete Davidson and Kim Kardashian because Pete is this like skinny, like you know, I mean, not traditionally good looking, but like very charming, which makes him good looking type guy. And then now he's dating like, you know, the Queen, the Queen, you know, Kim Kardashian queen anyway, the queen Queen. I don't know. I said queen about seven times in

the past four minutes. Way too bad, all right. So apparently a TikTok user that goes by the name in sid we Trust alerted all of her or his followers of the potential diss and a video clip over the Weekend, uh so apparently in a post, they shared a picture from the musician's recent Interview magazine photo shoot alongside his new girlfriend, Julius So Kanye and Julia and in the image, the two are cuddling on a couch of a restaurant. While Kanye hid his face in a black hood, Julia,

his new girlfriend, rested her head on his shoulder. I'm just really paying the picture for you guys here in in the intimate photo, which was taken to announce their relationship as official um now, the TikTok this in side we trust switched the shot to an old photo of Kanye and Kim as they snuggled on the couch during their marriage. Both had their eyes closed as they cuddled in the throwback photo, and the user popped in with a sad face to share the despair of the similarities.

Other fans raced to the comments to share their own theories regarding the fact that Kim. Excuse me, Kanye recreated this photo of Julia of an old photo with Kim, and all these people are saying he did to hurt her. He's trying so hard, but what pisces me off. He's not allowed to cuddle on a couch with his new girlfriend. What does that even mean? Not anymore anymore to do with Kim Kardashian here and allowed to do it ever

again with anyone else. That's a weird thing. I find that, Like I find that if you are in the public life eye in some sense, every single thing could be picked apart, you know, and it's so it's so weird, Like his intention was probably just like this is a cool couch photo, and um, then everyone calls him desperate or calls him all these things. Like I don't know, I can empathize with that. I think we've all had things just kind of like really dissected and ripped apart. Um,

So I don't know. I think that sucks that he has to can't I agree? I think it sucks. And granted I haven't been a fan of Kanye since like, but it is still very unfair too for like news outlets quote one quote to be making these leaps. It's like, what is he supposed to do? Not take a photo ever again with the person that he's dating. Come on, come on, that's ridiculous. And as a as a guy, well, I'm not saying like I'm so only speaking personally here, I only got so many tricks in my bag, you

know what I mean. For example, there definitely been times where I've given gifts to significant others, maybe even my current significant other, that have been similar to gifts that

I've given to past significant others. But it's only because like whether it be notes or letters or things like that, Like I'm only there's only so much creativity in this little Rhode Island brain of mine, and so like I could easily be accused of recreating or doing something similar to the past, and it's like, well, duh, you know what am I supposed to do? Nobody am I getting way too? If you give flowers to somebody, maybe the flowers are different, but it's still like a similar gesture.

I mean, I don't know. There's certain ways of people that you show that you care about somebody, but it's different because it's a different person. Yea, yeah exactly. Once a on a time, one of my friends was dating a public figure and he uh, she was posting like a lot of the stuff that he was doing for her, and he kept telling me, He's like, I tell her not to post anything I do because like, let's be honest.

I do this with everyone I date. And if she keeps posting about it, like everyone's gonna know my secrets, it's pretty I mean it's true. Like you, you know, you find stuff that works for you and you stick with it. I don't think there's anything wrong with that per se um. It's just it's like when it comes to this extent, like this whole Kanye West thing, it's ridiculous. Oh sorry, Kanye West isn't allowed to take a picture on a couch with his eyes closed anymore because he

once did it with Kim Kardashian. No, no, Sid, what is it called? And Sid? We trust? I'm sorry, we don't trust it. But let's take a couple of seats. Why don't you sit? Al Right, guys, we're gonna take one quick break here. Um, we're gonna come back to emails, So stay tuned. We'll be right back. Hey, guys and Ashley from the Almost Famous podcast. It's that time of year where drama fills the air. The Bachelor is back

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get your podcasts. Okay, everyone, welcome back to help I suck at dating. It's time for my favorite segment, emails. Um, do we have Easton? Is very Easton present that's listening to this podcast? That wouldn't mind reading one or two of these for us? I mean, Eastern might be president, but he's definitely not listening. I'm I'm president and I'm listening,

and I definitely have the mails pulled up. I definitely have them ready because I was expecting to do this, because it's an honor and a privilege to do this every week, and I have the email right here. Let's do it. You know, the first time you said definitely, I believed you. The second definitely through me for a loop and make me think otherwise. But you know what

I was thinking too. Maybe every week we should have I don't know if this is even plausible, and it's probably gonna make Estan's job a lot more difficult, but let's try it. Anyway. Maybe we could have a listener call in and read an email. We uh, We did the listener call ins for a while at the very beginning of this podcast. And I'm sure Easton can attest it's it's maybe not the best format, it's a it's

a really fun format. It's a really fun format, and uh, and it might be coming back, Dean, going to be a lot of a lot of fun. I don't know if I'm allowed to say that or not. It was a lot of like, oh, my gosh, I can't believe I'm on the phone with you, Like I can't believe we're here right now. And it's like, Okay, well, what's your question, And they're like, I don't even have a question. I just can't believe I'm on the phone on this

podcast right now. So that's that's what I remember being, No, I can't believe I'm on the phone with you, and I have the Yeah, the disparity between how I was and how I am now is quite great, so both of us. My friend, yeah, right right. Well, let's say this first one is from anonymous. I've been in a

relationship with my boyfriend for two years. He moved in with me six months ago after his lease was up, and we decided that since he was always sleeping over anyways, would be best if you just moved in and didn't find another place. We never necessarily had the conversation about what this step meant in our relationship. To me, it

was always a temporary thing until my own lease was up. Now, six months later, as my own lease is coming to an end, he has begun asking questions like should we renew? Should we move someplace else? Long story short, How do I break it to him that I'm not ready to move in with him permanently. I mean, I love him, We've been together for two years, but I just feel like that's a huge commitment and I don't know if

I'm ready for it. I don't know if it's because I'm only twenty three and he's thirty, and I'm still unsure of what the future can hold. I want my space, I want him to stay over. Some days, I know if I tell him if I want to continue living alone, he'll think it's because I don't see a future with him in the long run, or he'll start overthinking if I hated living together for the last six months. Help. How do I go about about this in the best

way possible. It sounds like you guys already lived together, so I don't know why you said more permanently because she was going to be temporarily. Yeah, she's already for like indefinitely. It was pretty I was pretty against her up until she said something along the lines of I still want my own space. I want to be able to like pick and choose when we hang out. And then I was like, you know what, that makes a little bit of sense. I think all you gotta do

is just tell him that you know. But I don't know. It's funny because Nick always talks about when couples moving together, not always, but you talked about it a few times, and he says, if you're ever moving in with someone for like financial reasons, then you're not ready to move in with them. So like, let's be honest, if you guys financially need to live together, and like that's the one reason you guys are gonna move in together, maybe not a good idea, but um, I mean I I

am always an advocate for having on personal space. So I said, just have a conversation with him about it. I've done that. I've moved in with someone, um, when I was twenty because of financial reasons. And once you take a step forward, it's really hard to take a step back without people taking it personally. You know, it's uh, it always signifies like, oh, we're going forward to our relationships going forward. So if you go back, does that

mean our relationships going back? I think it just depends if you if you like who you are in that dynamic of your life while you're living with that person, because it completely changes your relationship you know. Um, and if you don't feel like you're ready to uh, I feel like you have to tell them what you're doing all the time because you kind of do. It's like if you go out with friends, like are you coming back? Where you're coming back? Like, I'm I going to be

here Amy, not who's making dinner blah blah. So you are just like so on each other's lives. If you're not ready for that, then that's completely fair. But uh yeah, do you think do you think if you live with a significant other? Um? You because this is the first time I've ever heard this and I'm just trying to absorb it a little bit more, do you think you're kind of are required more to tell them like your

constant whereabouts? Um? If it's more so in terms of like respecting their time or respecting the space, and like it's it's like you you kind of have to play, like when we go to bed together, like if you don't come home later at night, is because you got hit by a car, or it's kind of just like checking in to make sure you know. For the record, I agree with you. I just I have never heard

of rebalize before, so I'm just trying to process it. Yeah, it's kind of just because if you live in the same space, there's more questions asked you, what do you do today, you were gone for this amount of time, or you didn't come home last night with you know what happened then? Like and when you and when you live separately, there's kind of more of like an unspoken understanding of like, Okay, we don't have to keep each other updated on every movie make it's just not in

front of your face, you know, right right? Good point? Yeah, Jared, what do you think Ashley tracks Me's just she knows every step I take everywhere, And initially I was against it, but now I like it because now I know where she is, so anytimes she doesn't pick up the phone, I can look and say, okay, she's here. Actually funny enough, we always so she always wants to call and say good night, like good night love. You make sure it's good to go. One time, I passed out early on

the couch. I don't remember. I didn't call her. She was in Virginia. I was home by myself. She so she tried calling me for like three hours straight, hysterically crying. Was convinced that I choked on a grape and died on the couch by my called. So I'm so, I don't know how I didn't wake up to any of her phone calls. But then I looked over. This was like three o'clock in the morning. It was my buddy Kenny calling me, and I was like, what the hell? So I picked up my phone. I was like hello,

and he goes what's up? And I was like, I thought he was drunk or something. I'm like, bro, what's going on? And he was like, what's going on with me? What's going on with you? Your wife's hysterically crying calling us. I'm on my way to your apartment now to make sure you're alive. And I was like, oh, Jesus Christ, so I'm it. So as I said that, I was like oh, and then I just hung out the phone and immediately called Ashley back because I knew exactly what

was going on. She picks up, She's like, what the if you were doing? I thought you choked. I thought you died. I was like, you didn't see that I was home. She's like, yeah, I did see you at home, and I thought you died by yourself in the house and I was going to be a widow and have to raise this kid on my own. And I was like, wow, that was a traumatic night for a couple of hours.

I'm sorry about that, but good night. I'll talk to But see, you've kind of said the precedent then where it's like, if you, like in this case, where you miss one phone call, then all of a sudden it becomes this big ordeal. Yeah, snowball effected the slippery slope. But for the record, I also have my location on for like everyone. I want everyone to know where I am at all times. I've got no secrets to hide, and I like, let's say I get kidnapped or something.

I want all my friends to be able to like track my location and figure out where I am. You know. Um. But to answer the question for anonymous, I think I'm gonna go on a little bit of a allege here, to which I apologize anonymous. But when you're on a ledge my favorite kind of version of you, I think, anonymous. If you ask your boyfriend to move out, where you guys go separate, it's over. You invited your twenty three,

so you're young, You have plenty time. You guys bigget it for two years, which is great, But you invited a third year old man to live with you. He is very much ready to live, settle down, and move forward and and be done with the dating scene my guests, which is why he's like, should we renew? Should we look at a new place? Like he in his mind, you two are living together and you're moving forward in

this direction. So I think if you're like, hey, listen, I thought it was temporarily gonna be a living together situation, I think he's gonna take that personally, and then I think he's gonna question your motives, and then he's gonna think, well, I'm dating someone who's twenty three. Is she not ready to be in a committed relationship. I think it's just gonna have a lot of questions in his head that I don't think will be conducive for a healthy relationship.

So I don't know. I'm nervous if you're nervous. For if he thought it was temporary, he would have found a new place to live instead of moving them with her. So I do. I do agree, I think and exactly what Kendall said, you can take a step forward, but you can't take a step backwards. I disagree with you, Jared. I think that if they continue living together, the relationship is doomed because she obviously does not want to live with somebody, not with him. She doesn't want to live

with anybody right now, and that's fine. And if she continues to live with him, even if she like tells herself like oh this, this is okay, this is for the this is the right step to take, she's going to resent him for it, and there's gonna be like he's it's gonna start with little moments like it's gonna be like he left his socks out of the Hamburg and she's like, oh my god, I got this thirty

year old loser living in my house. Like it's gonna it's just gonna build, and then it's gonna come to a breaking point and Uh, then he's gonna want to get married and she's not gonna want to do you know, Like, I just think that she needs to be honest about how she feels with this man. The time for the record, you leave yours out, She goes, I can't believe I'm living with this thirty year old man. Child who hasn't heard that? At least she throws in child in there.

That's nice. I mean, deep down, I feel like, if you want to end it and you don't want to take it, you're not excited to keep moving and take a step forward, You're kind of that's for me usually it's the answer. Like my parents always told me. They've been together for two years now, and um, they just they said when they met each other, they were excited to take a step forward. They're excited to do that,

you know, they don't even think about it. Um. Not to say that every relationship should be that way, but um, I think she's not in a place where she's excited to move forward with him, right. But I agree, I think you should take a principal stand and just say sorry, we're not living together. I don't want to do it. I'm not interested in it. I still want to date. Let's try it out. She doesn't want to, but I, like Kendbell said, sometimes the answer is in the question,

and like, what do you have to lose? Obviously you don't. You're you like the guy enough to be dating it, but you don't love him to the point where you want to live with him. So propose the idea and if he doesn't like it, then bought a being bought a boom. You're back to be in your free self and you can find someone else that you're more excited to live with. So that's that's the advice. One more reason, What do you got for us? This is a juicy one, all right? This is from Emily. I found out that

my fiance was searching for escorts on Google. We're in a long distance relationship, and I don't know what to do or how to bring this up. Escorts escorts, I mean, that's it, right, You can't look for escorts and move on from this. No, maybe he's doing research or something for like a thesis. It's long distance. It's so easy to just like disappear and to just not ever. There's just like where the heck of that person? I don't know.

It's like at that point, I would kind of wait, I'm the kind of person where I would probably just disappear because it's a big disrespect and for me, I would kind of see that as like cheating. Um, it's definitely cheating. Am I missing are bringing with escort means no, it is cheating, like and he he he should know and if he wants to call and bring it up, he can, But I don't know. I disappear, disappear. I would just disappear in the I think what this person

should do is just simply bring it up. I mean, granted he's probably she's probably gonna be with a lot of resistance because something brings something up like that, there's someone that's uncomfortable talking about it for obvious reasons. I think you're going to naturally just like backpedal and defend yourself. Um, but yeah, I mean it sounds like the relationship is kind of on its way out because that's it's not a deal breaker for for everyone obviously, but um, it

sounds like it might be for you. So I would say, bring it up and see what happens next. Well, I think you have to bring it up because there's obviously something wrong in the relationship right now and listen, Like you guys are doing long distance. You know, every human has their needs. If he was looking up porn, it's like, hey, whatever, But escorts, like, I don't know, that's a whole new level.

What's the difference. Let's get to the bottom that is there is there a substantial difference between porn and high wearing an escort? I mean, you're having sex with an escort? Am I misinterpreting this? Do I not know what an escort is? Um? Well, I mean so I think it's usually an escort is like a date for company, but usually there is some sexual involvement. Oh so I was misinterpreting because I just assumed it was primary, Like I mean, I would say that it kind of is mainly that

to some people. Um m hmm. Interesting changes the dynamic a little bit. I guess, maybe not right. I think porn the only reason why I don't think porn is an issue. Um but if it starts affecting your sexual relationship with your partner, and it starts taking away from your connection with your partner, then that's when it's an issue.

They're both forms of entertainment, but is one going to like obviously when when it's actually another person you're risking like your safety with like your health, you know, getting something like these are strangers that this person is looking at. Um, but Corn, it's kind of I don't know, you're less connected to that for sure. I do think though to your point, Um, while an escort isn't it's not implied sexual work. I do think it's the precursor to some

sort of sexual experience with someone. So um too, I think Jared, it's safe for you to assume what you're assuming because I do think it kind of leads into what it is you're assuming. So yeah, I think I think the bottom line is have the conversation with him bringing up uh, don't like corner him, because I do think how you bring it up is really important, you know, like don't just like throw it all at him at the same time and accuse him of all these things.

Maybe like asking questions lead him to answer, like give him the opportunity to like answer it without you pressuring him or like cornering him all that kind of stuff. So um, that's my advice at least. But yeah, it sounds like it's not going to be too good for you guys moving forward, that's just what would be so bad approaching the scenario. I'd be like, hey, you can escorts home? What a what a job? What do you

think about that? Yeah? You just bring it up nonchalantly, like not involving them whatever that you put on pretty woman just to be like you guys, you ever see this movie before or it's a great premise, huh, but once you look trust I wonder how she found out, because like, was she on his computer searching for s cargo and then auto field But to be the devil's advocate here, she said she caught that he was looking for them. For all we know, he's never booked one.

I know this is a day Like I think she should have a conversation because like that's definitely like you know, I mean, you know, I just searching for them and with no intention of ever doing it. But but some people might maybe that's just like something he gets off on, like oh, like I could do this, but I won't listen.

You don't call Audrey's asking for a b LT unless you want to be I mean no to Easton's point, I remember once when I was in high school, one of the kids that was on our football team came back with these like, uh, these these stripper cards from Las Vegas. We called. We called every number on the stripper cards. None of us had ever the intent to follow through with anything. We were just calling for fun.

It could be curiosity. I can see that. His friends like, oh, did you know that you can find you know these people this way? And maybe he's like, oh, I maybe, And then they looked together like I can see that. So it's a very bad it's a very bad sign. So like that conversation needs to be had, too true. But also we don't know the age of Emily, because what if this kid is like eighteen. It was like just messing around. That's a good Curiosity is a hell of a thing. But I think bottom line, have the

conversation and get the bottom of it. That's really what you need to do. But yeah, maybe he's just looking for a great escargo recipe or something like that. Maybe he's not a stale and he wants to learn how to correct gets the best of us. All Right, Well that's gonna do it for this week's episode of Help I Suck at Dating? Thank you everyone for listening. Kendall, thank you for jumping in and co hosting with us

this week. You are and always will be one of our favorite, if not our favorite co hosts, So big thank you to you. Can you just give us like a like like where where where is kinda going to be going for the next you know, year, a couple of years? Where what can we look to expect from you? I'm really focus sing on like this science like informative, being someone who takes larger scientific concepts and making them more digestible to people. Like I'm working with a company

called Colossal right now. It's a genetics company that's rebirthing the wooly mammoth and doing a bunch of other GenEx product projects. So I'm kind of and I do like TikTok science stuff, So that's kind of where I'm going. It's they're rebirthing the wooly mammoth. Yeah, it's actually an Asian elephant wooly mammoth hybrid. I could get all into all that, but yeah, it's very fascinating, very cool. Just make sure they don't try to rebirth any dinosaurs because

I've seen Jurassic Park and it's impossible. It's kind of impossible to rebirth the dinosaur that we know now because all of the remains are fossilized, so it's like rock. There's no DNA in it. It's even hard to like rebirth the wooly mammoth because we have like mummified mammoths, but their DNA is kind of like confetti that's been ripped up and then trampled on in the rain, and you just try to put it back together. There's mummified wooly mammoths m in permafrost in the Arctic tundra. It's

in permafrost. Jared, come on, read a book. Yeah, it's like a big freezer that's underground, underground. Yeah. Well, we look forward to seeing all of that. We look forward to seeing more of your scientific TikTok's um. Thank you for joining us. Thank you to the listeners. Thank you to the emailers Anonymous and Emily. Thank you to Easton and Hannah. That's gonna do for this week's episode of Help I Suck At Dating. Be sure to tune in next week, where maybe we suck just a little bit less.

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