Get Back on the Horse

a second talk about it. So. I don't know if you guys saw Kalin's Instagram post the other day, but Kalin proposed to me, Calin proposed to you. We said so when Klein was on the podcast, she said she was going to do it before years over, and it's still two so she's stuck to her promise. Did you know who was coming? She squeaked it in I she she is suspicious that I think that she thinks that I knew that it was coming, but I had no idea.

She just said maybe a few weeks ago or a month ago, that to save December at two thirty because she's got a date plan for me, and I thought she just like what I thought it was was I've I've been talking to her about wanting to do the there's like a speedway here in Vegas where you can like drive a Ferrari around a race track, and I'm like, that sounds so cool, and we've like tried to do it in the past, like when my brothers are here,

but it hasn't worked out. And so I thought that she was like just planning, like this is a fun thing that I've wanted to do for a long time. And then we started driving the opposite direction, so I was like, Okay, can't be that. And then I was like, oh, you're taking me on a helicopter ride over red rocks because we've been talking about I want to do that for a long time too. And then we pull up and and like she hadn't told me anything of what

we were doing or anything like that. And then we pull up and I see horses, and I look at her and I go, you son of a gun, because she knows I I it's not that I hate horses. I have a fear of them. I don't trust them, and they're so powerful and big and muscular and strong that like if a horse doesn't like you, and you're on it, good luck, because yeah, you're gonna get dragged, you're gonna break some bones, and it's nothing that you're doing wrong theoretically. Like I, you know, I grew up

riding motorcycles. I still ride motorcycles. A motorcycle doesn't have ulterior motives. A motorcycle does what you tell it to do a percent of the time. Horses not so much. So people make that comparison sometimes not a good comparison. In my book, horse motorcycle doesn't have alternative motives until um, the future comes and the machines turn on us. But

that's still along waves away. I would agree I've never felt less in control or less powerful than when I was on a horse, because I agree my horse there, you know, they tell you like, oh, go like this to go left, go like that to go right, and then go like this to stop the horse. And then we were rodding, and then I went like this to stop the horse, and the horse didn't stop, and I was like, oh my god, this is all this is literally all I have. There's nothing else I can do.

And then finally the horse slowed down after a couple of seconds. But for a good three seconds. I was like, I got nothing. I'm done. And like the way that I kept keep rationalizing it in my head is like, oh, well, it's a horse, and like it doesn't want to do anything crazy, it's not going to try to hurt itself, but like it could stumble. I was getting on my horse and I still had no idea what her plan was. But I was just getting on the horse to like start the ride, and it was like a big horse.

But I was like, I was like asking the girl that was guiding us. I was like, hey, this this horse can support my weight? Right, Like you know, I'm a big guy. I'm I'm I'm heavy, swarz and get out of here that horse. You're like a fly on the back of that horse. I'm a bigger than average human being. I would definitely say that's true. And I was getting on the horse. Issue carry your tiny ass, okay. So Klin under reported my weight. She thought I'd wagh

a d eighty five pounds. I am two hundred pounds on a good day. And I was getting on the horse and I was like, can this horse support my weight? And the guide goes, oh, yeah, don't worry about it. This horse can support up to two hundred pounds, and I was like up to two I am like, if I get on an elevator and the weight limit is a thousand pounds and I'm looking around and we're at a thousand pounds, I'm getting off the elevator, you know

what I mean? Like, that's you don't want to be on the upper end of that spectrum now, I always want to be below. I think about that with planes too. Anytime Ashley's luggage is overweight and it's like sixty pounds, I'm like, listen, what if every single person on this plane has an overweight bag? Are we gonna be able to, you know, get up? Or were getting dragged down here? People? Well the sidebar the airplane thing is ridiculous to me. You can't have over fifty pounds and your check luggage.

Oh but if I just move it to my carry on then it's okay. Excuse me. The same amount of weight is going on the airplane. What is the purpose of me having to move way out of this bag and put it in this bag? If it's all going on the airplane, it's all the money scheme, It's all it is. It is it really is. Anyways, back to the story, So get on the horse. I'm terrified because the horse is big. But we're walking and like it's

all like stumbling. But I'm like looking at its shoulders as it's clumping around, and I'm like, this horse is so mad because it's working so much harder than it wanted to right now, and I don't have the knowledge to, you know, wrangle it in any certain direction. Like you're saying you pull left, you want to go left, but sometimes it doesn't happen. So I'm kind of freaking out. I'm like obviously a big advocate for like facing my

fears and doing things that frightened me. I was telling Kalen this scenario was my nightmare because the reward isn't worth the risk. If you go skydiving, the reward is amazing. You have an incredible adrenaline rush, you have so much fun, and yeah, there's a lot of risk involved, but riding a horse, in my opinion, is not fun. So I'm taking on a lot of risk to do something that isn't fun. I don't understand, Like the math doesn't math for me. Wait a minute, wait a minute, I mean,

how fast are you going on this horse. We didn't even get up to a gallop. It was a walk. My point being, what is your risk? I mean, you can get thrown off the horse. Do you honestly think at a walking pace that you are going you are in I mean you could maybe break a bone. I'm not denying this, like you fall wrong, but the horse I don't think is trampling you. So if you're telling me that the risk of death with skydiving you find more bearable than the risk of potentially a broken pinky

finger by falling off a horse that's walking. Yeah, So if we were to like put on a graph, you know, like maybe like the y access would be risk and the X axis would be reward, skydiving is somewhere in the upper right hand corner high risk but high reward. Horseback riding at any speed high risk, low rewards. So it's too far there's the risk, I find You're you're over No, it's not that high of a risk. Well, not even galloping on a horse, well, just walking trotting.

We were walking through like a river bed, so it was sandy and rocky, and every step he took I was like, what if this is the step where he snaps an ankle, falls to the ground, rolls over the side, rolls up on my bad leg. That horse weighs, you know, a thousand pounds. You could it could shatter a leg. It could literally if if it just like rolled an ankle turned onto its side. I'm not bailing in time to get off out of the way of this horse

falling on top of me. And then all of a sudd I'm on the ground and this pund beast is on top of me, scrambling to get back up. Who knows where it's thrashing and throlling about. It could kick me, It could do anything. You don't know. The thing is, you don't know. Would you rather have the thousand pound horse fall awkwardly on your leg or splat on the ground from five thousand feet in the air well, obviously

the horse, But the thing is a parachute. A parachute doesn't have a brain of its own to have a reaction to something like if there's a mouse that screwies across the path, maybe the horse, you know, rears and I fly off the back. There's the possibilities are endless, you know. I feel like para is a bad name. Bro I am anti horse. It's my one fear that's like just like there are other fears, yeah, okay, being poor or going to jail, sure, but like it's my

one legitimate feer that I have in like every rational fear. Yeah, there you go. It makes me. It makes me so happy that Kaylin planned an engagement around your fear after you dragged her through that eleven mile talk about high risk, dangerous hiking adventure to get to a beautiful beach in which you had a beautiful engagement and it was quite fantastic. But it makes me happy that she didn't do something

that you want to do. She was like, you know what, I'm going to do something that I want to do, and it just so happens that Dean is also quite terrified of this, so you know what, He's gonna have to conquer his fear. And then that is when I Kaylin Miller Keys will propose to Deed. Yeah, that was the rationale behind it. She was like, you made me face my fear on the hike of heights, and so I'm gonna make you face your fear of horses and

proposed to you. There. Um, she did run over her alternative plans like this was like her d option I think number one. She wanted to do everything like zero gravity or planes where they take you up really high and then drop really fast and you have like zero gravity. She wanted to do that, but it's like way too expensive. She wanted to get my brothers out here and go

on a rock climbing trip and do it there. But those are like my things, like you're saying, those are like things that I would enjoy, which don't get me wrong, I would love those things. But she wanted to do something similar to what I did with her, where it was my thing that I wanted to do and I knew she would have a good time and it would all work out that way. So she was like, yeah, I'm gonna take Dean on something that's gonna make him face his fears like he had to do to me.

So we rode on these horses for not even very long, like twenty minutes out into the desert, and it was fun. I mean, it was fun. It was fun. Uh it did it did ease my my my like hesitancy with horses. It did, you know, kind of bring me around a little bit. And we wrote out and then we you know, stopped for a water break or whatever, and then she got down on it and asked me to marry her,

which is really nice. It was a nice experience. It was something that we had planned to do ever since we agreed that we wanted to get engaged, that you know, I would propose to her and she would then propose to me, because you know, I do believe that when a guy asks a girl to marry her, that is her basically agree of course, agree to marry him. So it's like yes, you're both serving your part or your role in the relationship by asking and then the other

person saying yes. But I wanted it to kind of be like a uh. I wanted her to get the experience of like asking me the same question because it, I don't know, it does kind of go both ways where it's like, well like I don't know where I'm going with this, but like I want to marry you, and she said yes, and so now I want her to ask to marry me, and so I can say it's kind of like interchanging vows when getting married, because it's not like one person at the altar says, will

you be you know, take me as your lawful. Whatever the hell they say, I can't remember was years ago. Anyway. It's not like one person says it and the other person says yes and they're like okay, good to go. It's like you both say and you both say yes. So I understand the logic where you said, I want both of us to propose, and I want both of us to say yes. Yeah, we're equal partners, and I wanted to. I think both of us wanted to feel like equal partners in the engagement process. Did you make

her sweat it out? Did you say yes immediately? Or you were like, oh, well, I do hate I should have. I did it. It was kind of abrupt, uh, similar to how I did it. There was no like pre speech where it was like I love you so much, I want to spend the rest of my life with your blah blah blah blah blah, will you marry me? It was just like a quick will you marry me? And I was like, oh my gosh, of course yes, I would love to. And so now I have two rings? Two rings? Which one did she give you the one

on your pinky? No, that's that I've warned that for a while to rings ring finger. Which one did she always wear this one obviously worn of that since like six months into our relationship, and then she gave me this one, which is nice. Yeah, it's nice. So I got some more jewelry. There's a nice inscription on the inside that says vel Crow Forever on it because early on in the relationship I did nixt podcast and I called her Velcrow and it's kind of been like our

little joke. So there's an inscription on the inside. And now I've got a nice ring. But my question now is like when we get married, do you wear both? Is she gonna put a third ring on my finger? Do I take these rings off and then have asked her to put them back on my finger when we get married? Well, usually, like for me, I never wore any type of engagement ring. This is my wedding band, So during a when I was engaged, I got nothing on my hands, and then obviously when I got married,

that's when the wedding band went on. So I'm imagining that's your engagement and wedding band that she gave you. So you'll still wear two rings if you choose, unless you move on from the first one. Yeah, I was thinking I would get myself a wedding band like you have, but I would put it on my other hand, on my right hand. I think you're just confusing everybody. Now, I just want to I want an excuse to wear rings. I like rings. I'm a ring guy. All of a sudden,

I think they're cool. It's like a minimalistic piece of jewelry that doesn't get in the way of anything. It's not uncomfortable. You never have to take it off. Do you wear when you rock climb? Oh? Yeah, which I know is a bad idea. Are you ever afraid of just your finger getting ripped off by a rock? You know you hear stories of that happening, But you there's there's a story for everything these days. Like my brother, for instance, is married and rock climbs quite a bit.

He always takes his off because he's worried about it. I. Um, I guess I'm just an idiot, and I don't think it's gonna happen to me until it does, and then I'm boom, all of a sudden without finger. That's your story, now, that's that would be my story. Yeah, all right, well that's gonna do it. Um, I thank you Jared for letting me talk about my engagement, my second engagement. Um,

whatever it helps, ratings, whatever else, ratings. It was interesting too experience it again, like you know, we already got engaged, were already proposed or proposed and engaged, you get married. It was it was a cool exp is gonna do it again? So yeah, I think Ashley should propose to me. Now, I don't think that's happening. I don't know if you heard that, doesn't sound like that's going to happen. It was cool. I would recommend it if anyone's thinking about

joint proposals or dual proposals and they're in a relationship. Um, it was a good experience for both of us. I think, uh, maybe we can get Kalen one of these days to talk about it, maybe from her side. Wait a minute, so you're saying there's no chance, like you so we would never actually doesn't want to renew ever renew our vows, which something totally down with, but you never proposed just for some giggles now to be like, hey, let's renew our love in some different way. That's a no, guys,

Maybe she'll come around one of these one of these days. Um. Alright, well, listeners, if you're out there and you're still listening to this podcast, thank you so much for joining us on Sunday's special bonus episode of Help I Second Dating Jared as always, thank you for joining us, glad if I figured out maybe maybe we'll get a cup of coffee. Man, you look tired over there, dude, I definitely it's all I've been thinking about, Like, I need more coffee in my life.

If right now I've only had one cop I'm usually three deep now. I like how also as actually just sitting on the floor in the room next to you, it's kind of I'm jealous. I wish Kylin was on the floor next to me. It's very nice. It's like playtime. Be sure to tune in to Thursday's episode because we have a great co host with us. Jenna Cooper will be joining us and you're not gonna want to miss that.

She's a fantastic person, Um, and she talks a lot about stuff that was in the headlines a few years ago. It's a very open standard about it, so uh and interesting podcast. Definitely check it out Thursday. Yeah, check that out. Thank you so much for listening this week Tune on Thursday where maybe we suck just a little bit less. Follow hell by suck at Dating on I Heart Radio or wherever you listen to podcast