First Date of 2023

And the next twenty five years that we host this podcast, do you ever think we'll be back in the recording studio. I think the fact that I'm on the West Coast and you're on the East coast, you have a child, the odds are slim. I would say, with all those barriers were pretty slim pickings here. But like, for instance, um, next month, at the end of January, we're going to the Pebble Beach thing I am that we go to

basically every year, which I think you've been to. I could be mistaken, but like you know, normally that's something that you would go to. But you're not gonna fly all the way from the East coast of the West coast with your child and go to that. I would assume. I think we might be going. I think it's a prerequisite. I don't know. I gotta talk to Ash because this isn't that February one, yeah, d of January into the beginning of February. Yeah, I think we're going. I think

that's a prerequisite. I know. So there you go. Then that's the next time we're recording person probably and then hope the first time, what like two thousand nineteen, yeah, two damn that because I remember it was February and we were talking about like does this COVID thing gonna impact us, Like, there's no way the world's gonna We're not gonna shut down like Italy. And then we shut down like Italy. So we showed down just like Italy. Well nice, I'll get me Dawson for the first time.

That'd be really really cool. You mean Alistair for the first time. Uh So this is January. Happy, happy New year, everybody. We are not in the new year full transparency as lowest is flipping out, Hey, Ash, could you close the door please? You know my wife I love so much, but if I did the things that she does to me, she would lose her goddamn mind. Hey, Like, for example, if I came in didn't close the door behind me, could you close? Thank you, thank you very much. Uh.

Any who, this is late December, before the holidays. We have yet to have the holidays, but we figured, uh, we would record an episode because we're not gonna be together towards the beginning of the year. Uh, it's a busy time of year, so we're gonna record now. And I hope everybody who's time traveling listening to this podcast in the future had a wonderful holiday season, a safe New Year's and a safe Christmas, all that jazz anything

to adding no that you said that? So well, yeah, happy Timelidays, Merry Christmas, Happy Janka, happy Kwanza, and any other holiday that you might celebrate this time of year. Um, we we wish you all the happiest of holidays. We are. As Jared said, we were recording this pre Christmas, but we didn't want to leave you guys without an episode beginning the new year, because you know, we're thoughtful like that, and we want you guys to get your Gene and

Dean and Jared fix in. So we start calling ourselves Jane. Now that could be our nickname, you know how, like every couple of Bachelor has a nickname, like we were Joshually we're Gene. I like Darred. I think Dred's better, but we can workshop at well, like Darred better than Gene. Yeah, I just think Dred's cool because like a Gene is a name you can name a kid, obviously, but like Darred is a name that you know, you need a

cool name. I feel like if we were Garred, though, we would be like a celebrities kid, you on, I mean Brad Pitt and Angelia Jolie or you know what formerly was Kim and Kanye. Like we'd be one of those celebrity kids that like, this is our son Dred, Like, who the hell is their kid Darred? Like we do because like every time he goes to Starbucks to give his order, they'd write the name wrong every single time. Poor kid would have Dude, they do that for me? Anyway?

What do they what do they put for your name? Oh, my name is Jerry in Starbucks, it's Jerry. It's not like I don't think I've ever had Jared written on a cup. Jerry, Like, yeah, that's my red air the cookie butter with sprinkles. This guy for Jerry. It's actually nice though, because they never have to I never have to like own up to the fact I can go into Starbucks and just nobody knows who I am, so I can order whatever the hell I want, not be

insecure about the curly drinks I order. Even I don't really drink Starbucks anymore, because you know, I own a coffee shop and I love ours. But sometimes I do, like we went to Duncan this morning. I went to Duncan this morning. I love Duncan. I do love Duncan. But the only downside of Duncan is that sometimes it really in the morning. The coffee is always good, it's freshly brewed. But if you get like an afternoon coffee

from Duncan that's hot, sometimes it's socks. I feel like it's just burnt coffee that's been sitting there for hours. Any Who, we don't think I've ever had the hot coffee from Duncan. I always go the ice coffee, the original blend ice coffee, and at least said the Duncan

by my house in Las Vegas. It's like out of a tap and so it's pretty consistently really good, which I enjoy the consistency of the Duncan ice coffee because Starbucks ice coffee, which I also usually like, it varies so much in taste and quality, and sometimes you get a normal good one, but sometimes I would say, like one out of every five times, it's like an undrinkably bad ice coffee, like that's been sitting too long or something like that. So shout out to Duncan. You know

we're giving some free plugs in this podcast. Hey, maybe you guys want to sponsor us. Why not? We both love Duncan. You've had a Duncan sponsorship on Instagram before. I think I remember he is. Come on, bro, I ran on Duncan nice. Now I run on Ben. That's right. All right, let's get into our new year recap real quick. So let's look back on this great year we just

had two thousand twenty two. Jared, what do you think you learned in don't open a business, buy a house, and have a kid all within a three month span. That's what I learned. Two. God, First of all, the fact that we're saying, holy sh we're old man. That's crazy. I was talking about ironically we're talking about Sandra Bullock. Yesterday with my dad and he were talking about movies she's been in recently. I'm like, I feel like she's

been in nothing. And then somebody was like, oh, she was in that bird Box movie and I said, oh, yeah, I forgot about that. And then my dad was like, what was that football movie? That was only a few years ago, right, my dad, the blind Side? That's like twelve thirteen years old. He goes, Holy Ship, It's like, yeah, dude, that's old. The blind Side is thirteen years old. Two thousand nine is when it came out. That's the year graduated high school. Yeah, we're really getting old. It's interesting.

I was standing in line today at Duncan funny enough to bring it back to that. It's very early. It was like six am and I was standing there and I feel like, I don't know. I was thinking randomly about how when you're in your twenties, everyone still kind of looks at you as a kid. In my experience, at least, like, you know, you don't get treated as

much of an adult. And now that even my thirties, I feel like I'm in the zone where I am an adult, and so I get treated like an adult, but I still can somehow talk to kids who are like working as a barista or something like that. So I feel and I was thinking, I was like, how long do I have this phase of life to last it?

And I was thinking maybe like five years top, So at mid thirties to late thirties, I feel like I'm gonna lose that sense of connection with the younger generation, you know, like we're already we've already lost it for the most part, but in your head, at least in my head, I feel like I've still got a little bit of a connection there, Like I could still be like the cool guy that walks into the coffee shopping

people I don't know. I think like, oh, he's got some life ahead of him still, you know what I mean, Like you can still do something with his life if he really wanted to. I also think, listen the fact that where you know, I mean, you're taller than I am, but I'm six ft, but you're tall, handsome, you know, younger, looking like you look like you're in your late twenties. That helps us a lot, and it helps me as well. That's true. We we could still pass his late twenties,

I think, which is, like you said, very helpful. There are some less fortunate people that are, you know, younger than us, that look older than us. Which is funny too, because when you're young, you want to look old, but when you get old, you want to look young. You know, I want to look like I'm in my thirties. I feel like that's a great age for a guy to look. If we could look like this forever, and like, I'm not saying I look good or anything, but I know

that I'm gonna look worse than five years. So if I could just look like this for the rest of the next decade, I think I'd be happy. No, I couldn't agree more. It's only going downhill from here. So if I could just stay stagnant on this even line, I'll be happy. I don't need to go up. Just stay just like the ice coffee from Duncan Baby, just nice and consistent. Just and that we ask. So you learned not to do all those things and uh in the same year. That's good advice. Well, honestly, I learned

in two Thanks for asking, Jared. I'm gonna go ahead and say that I still wanted to talk about myself for a minute. You know, I was gonna bring my thing that I learned back to you real quick. So I was gonna say that I learned in two not to host a podcast with a guy that opened the coffee shop, had a baby, and got married all the same year. Yeah, I mean, I was definitely. It's funny how I was always the one on time and consistent and here and responsible. And I still feel that I

have that edge over you. But it definitely two really even the playing field a little bit for you. You You got a lot closer in the responsibility field. It used to be like to five me. Now it's like I would say, seventy already you were gonna say, and then you wanted to change a little bit. Because I agree with you, I think the gap has shrunk a little bit. There are there And not to say that you've gotten considerably worse, but I think I've gotten a little bit better.

You know, We've We've got a house that I spend more time in. I still have my my random outbursts where I'm like, hey, sorry, I'm on the middle or in the middle of the road in Idaho somewhere. Has it happened much though not as much as it used to. So that's good, that's good, and that in conjunction with your busy schedule, I do think the gap has shrunk just a little bit, which is good, Which is good. Yeah, uh yeah, the biggest life change. It's funny because I

think it might be opening a business over Dawson. Of course, emotionally, uh, Dawson is a much bigger change. But man, just the sheer hours and effort uh and blood, sweat and tears I've put into Audrey's this past year. I really think that if I separated the two and I said, Okay, if you had one year of just Audrey's or one year of just Dawson, what would be more tasks, more tasking on you? I feel like it would have been Audrey's if I'm being honest, which is crazy, because Dawson

is exhausting, but Audrey's I find way more exhausting. Also the other parts Audrey's I think also just one last thing, the Audrey's I'm doing much more on my own where Dawson I split with Ashley, and Ashley does so much that was gonna be My question is what do you think Ashley would say to that question? Obviously Dawson, Well, yeah, well what would yeah? But she hate well, I mean

she loves Audrey's obviously, but she also hates Audrey's. So hate it's a love hate relationship because she loves Audrey's and she loves what it is and how comfortable it is and the quality that we serve with service and food and drink, uh, and the community aspect of it. But she also hates it because she sees how much stress it brings me and how much time it takes for me to be there and operate it, and that

takes away from time from her and Dawson. And she's in Rhode Island by herself, So there's a lot going on. Do you ever regret opening Audrey's? Uh, just like twice a day, bro, It's not so bad. No, I don't regret it. I really don't. I love Audrey's. I love I really do. When I'm there, man, I do love Audrey's. I love what we do there, I love what we're all about. I love our staff, I love our coffee, I love our drinks. I love the the atmosphere there.

It's so cozy and people seem genuinely happy while they're there. Which makes me happy. I think the staff likes working there. I think we really deliver a good product. It's busy, there's a lot of things that I'm proud of, and I definitely don't regret opening it. But it's tough, man. You know, Inflation is way up, the economy is not doing so well. There's a lot of small businesses that are hurting right now, much more than my own, so

I can't complain too much. But the fact is it's tough to make money right now from opening a business. And I'm certainly not the only one going through that, and there's a lot of people that I have it a lot worse than me. But it's tough, so I don't regret it. It's got to really depend on the next two years. I'd say, see what the next two years have to offer with the amount of money that we're making, how much time I'm putting into it an effort,

what the economy looks like. Um, because I love Audrey's I'd love to open more places, but really, you know, there's a lot of factors going on. If we have more kids, are we gonna stay in Rhode Island? I want to stay in Rhode Island. But Ashley is starting to get a little Virginia fever over here. Her families from Northern Virginia, and she is missing her family. They're big help with Dawson. You know, her sister is gonna get married probably this year and probably start having kids.

So if her sister, Lauren starts having kids, that's going to really change a lot, because then Grandma and Grandpa on her side, her parents will be down there with Lauren and the kid. And I think Ashley is really really going to have some serious pomo with that. We'll see. You're Dean is shrinking behind the mic right now. I don't know what the hell is going on. He's slunking. Is Laura gonna have kids? Yeah, she wants to have kids. Married. No,

she's engaged. So she's engaged, due to be married probably three But yeah, dude, when she starts having kids, oh Jesus, dude, Ashley, every single day, I can already see it that she's just gonna tell me how much she hates it here. So we have an engagement party in a couple of weeks. We were gonna avite you guys, but I want to invite you guys, but I feel weird inviting people knowing that they're not gonna go, so like you already know

the answer, I don't wanna. I don't want you to be uninvited, But I also feel guilty putting like the guilt on you guys for getting an invite and obviously knowing that you can't make it. You know what I mean. I wouldn't think like that, just invite people and let

people make their own decisions. But I also feel bad, like I don't know, I just like I don't want you to fly all the way, like you have too much going on, and I know you wouldn't, but like, I don't want you to have to fly out from the East coast to the West coast just for an engagement party. Yeah, we wouldn't, and we would send our guy. I don't want you to feel But then I don't want you to feel bad for not going to the

engagement party because we invited you. You You know what I mean? Honestly, bro, once you have kids, For me at least, it's like all things just I don't feel bad anymore. I don't feel bad about things. It's like if I could do it, great, If I can't, that's okay too. I'm starting to just become that old grump who's like, yeah, if we're there, we're there. But I'll let you know. Like I'm trying

to think. Even uh, Ashley was freaking out because we didn't get anything my parents for Christmas, and like so they're fine, you know, a couple of years ago before we had kids, sure be like, oh, we gotta get him something and something nice. My parents don't care. I don't care. It's all about Dawson. They just want gifts for Dawson. They don't want anything like, well, let's just get him a gift card for USh. You're telling me kids are a good reason to slack off your social

obligation thousand and ten percent. Dude, kids are the greatest excuse ever. I gotta have a baby. I gotta have a baby. But even strolling through Walmart, Broo, everybody gets out of your way. And if you get in my way, you're the asshole. I have the baby, I have the kid. You have to get out of my way, you know, everything, Like because if I'm carrying like everything, everybody just feels bad for you because you have the kid, because they

know that. It's just there's so much going on, and it's it makes me feel good because he's the easiest excuse ever. Dawson's getting a little fussy. We gotta go as a non child bearing human. I zent everything you just said. It's great, man, it's awesome because, like, honestly, yeah, bro, if you and Calin are walking down the Walmart aisle and Ashley and me and Dawson are walking in the opposite direction, and we're playing a game and chicken, at

this point, I'm bowling that kid over. I don't care get out of my way. A kid, I'm bigger than you, I'm stronger than you, and I will mess you up if you get in my way totally. But then someone will be recording. Yeah no exactly, but then someone will be recording it. And then Dean is the asshole because he bumped the kid he got in the way, Like, oh, it's just a baby. It's like, dude, anybody who gets mad, I also get so annoyed. People who like get annoyed

about a baby crying on a plane. It's like, guys, yeah, we're all aware. We don't want this baby to be crying. He's my child. We have to do this. We have to be on this plane. I'm going to do everything in my power to keep this baby from crying. But there might be some moments where you here and it's like, you know what, if you're smart, you planned ahead, you brought headphones so you don't have to listen to any of this. It's the people that get annoyed about having

a baby on a plane that don't have headphones. You have nobody to blame but yourself. Bring headphones, zone out, watch movies on your phone, or listen to music and shut the hell up. I get a baby crying that's

less uh controllable by the parents. But when like a toddler, like a three to a twelve year old kid is acting up on an airplane and the parents not doing anything about it, that's when I get annoyed, because it's the parents responsibility to ease their their child, and by not doing that, they're making the flight a miserable experience for everyone involved. And yeah, sure headphones are helpful, but they don't block a dent of the sound a hundred

percent of the time. So I get the babies baby aspect of it, but once that baby reaches a certain age, it then becomes back to me being annoyed at the parents. I agree with that there's a certain age, and I'm dreading that because then it's like, then I have to put some serious effort in. That sounds terrible. I have to watch my effort that worst. Jesus uh Odean. What about you? What did you two? You've gotten engaged twice, You've proposed, and then you got proposed to. Did you

move or was that we moved to Vegas? That was April of last year. Damn, dude, I have no sense of time anymore. So what about you? What did you learn in this past year? I learned that when you buy an engagement rank for someone, you damn well better ensure it because that ring might go missing, and if it does, you're stuck footing the bill for a new one. Dude, I cannot believe you haven't found this thing. I know.

So I'm doing renovations in the house right now, and one of the like things that I've been holding onto where I was like, oh, I'll find it, was when I demoed our home office to like redo a bunch of stuff, and it's fully demoed and there was no rank to be found. So the hope is dwindling quite a bit. But what do you think could have had?

I mean, obviously someone threw it out, see only logical explanation if this thing is never found, is that smartly you put it in a crumpled piece of paper or tissues in the junk draw you know, as you should do with what you say, a four carrot diamond? Yeah, four and a half four and a half. Excuse me, I forgot the half? Uh and then it but my how who if you knew what it was, and Kalin knew what it was, who the hell would have thrown this thing out? Has anybody been over your house that

would feel comfortable enough? There's a seventy chances in a landfill, but that that's what we're cleaning too. We yeah, if we we've I don't know, is there anybody that's come over the house that would feel comfortable enough to go through any drawers or clean up? Do you have a cleaning company? We have cleaners that come every once in a while. But here's where the plot thickens a little bit.

I think I've already talked about this on the podcast before, but my golf club's got stolen out of my garage. My favorite broncos stool is missing, and I presume to be stolen. So I'm not saying anyone came into our house and took it out of junk drawer. That's like very very low odds, but it does thicken the plot a little bit knowing that other things from our house have been taken and are missing, and who knows, who knows. But that's what I learned. I learned in in two

thousands twenty two. I learned that wedding ring engagement, I'm sorry, wedding ring insurance is a thing and it's something I should have purchased. And Caitlin is laughing at me. I'm glad my dismay is very pleasing to her. And yeah, that's what I learned. So when I get the new ring, I will be sure to think about ensuring it and I go from there. Well, you should probably just put it on a band quickly and put it on Caalen's finger pretty fast. Yeah, and then if it gets lost,

it's her doing, not mine, that's the big thing. Yeah, then she like probably lost her finger. Uh, it's good that she's laughing at you and not stabbing you over So that's the step in the right direction. She is making it known. Every passing day she gets a little bit more upset with me about it's missing, about how it's not around. So I you know, we're getting married

in follow next year. If it's not around by then, I'm sure she probably will get cold feet and not want to walk down the aisle where you guys getting married. You know, Colorado, Colorado? It is Colorado. Okay, yeah, it's gonna be. It's gonna be an Aspen and Brissel or something. So save the date. We're actually so for our the

holidays this year. We wanted to go to Virginia for Christmas to hang out with Kaylin's family, but with the weather coming in and the stress of the wedding looming and all of these things, we decided we're just going to stay in Vegas for Christmas. But then we're gonna go to Aspen for New Year's And on that trip to Aspen for New Years, we're gonna look at a

bunch of venues and stuff. And it's pretty cool, uh, that we're doing it there because obviously I grew up there and so a lot of the venues were looking at our places that I've been too frequently as a child. And one of the places that we're looking at too is actually the So there's this company in the valley that I grew up in called the Colorado five hundred. It's like an organization and a nonprofit and it's like a motorcycle of race that they do every year, and

they also offer scholarships. And so when I graduated high school, they offered me their max scholarship, and without their scholarship, I wouldn't have been able to attend college. So they've got this big, beautiful plot of land up in the mountains, and they're one of the places we're looking at. And I just thought to be a really cool kind of like full circle moment of having our wedding reception at the same place that gave me the ability to further

my education. That would be pretty cool. Yeah, So you haven't are these places booked up? Because over here in New England, it's like if you don't book at least a year in advance, you're not getting anything. Yeah, there there some of them are, some of them aren't. Especially that time of the year in the fall, and Aspen is like a pretty sought after time of year because the leaves are changing, and the weather is perfect and

all that kind of stuff. Yeah, it's pretty nice. So some of them, like one of them is a good family friend that has this ranch out there that is offering their plot of land, and they're like, whatever, whatever you want, if you want it, it's yours. If you want to give us money, you can. If you don't want to, that's fine too. In my head, I'm like, well, let's let's do that. But we also have to provide all of our infrastructure and everything. We're also looking at.

Uh there's the vice right up in snowmass that has like all of the infrastructure already in place for a wedding. So, uh, we're doing all that. But yes, we do have to make our decision relatively soon, if not long time ago, because those venues book up pretty quick. So it's pretty much decided that you guys are having a pretty decent sized wedding. I don't know, I how big do you think our wedding will be? Kalin, you can say that loud, Yeah how big was yours? One? Eight? Yeah? Ours will

be smaller than that? Good a good amount. I wouldn't I would never tell anybody go over that dude, Ben, wouldn't you just didn't feel like one eight. You just felt like a twenty more intimate. Yeah, it was definitely more intimate because there was great people there, but and whoever planned did a great job. Ben's wedding was a lot. Ben's when it was gorgeous and awesome, but there was like four people there. Yeah. Even just Ben's bridal party

or groomsman party was like fifteen people. Yeah, that was a lot. It was fun though. Uh so wait how many? So you guys, do you think you'd be over under a hundred? I wanted to be under but it'll probably be over just barely. If you're over a hundred, that's a good size wedding. So you're having a pretty big wedding. Yeah, does that make you feel? How does that make you feel? As like your inner soul being like I am having

a big wedding. This is it, this is who I am now, this is the man I've become hasn't really connected yet, so I can't really I can't really be sard. And you know, you could invite two hundred people but only fifty of them show ups, so who really knows? The challenging thing is is since it is in the

town that I grew up in. A lot of my friends that I'm friends with but I'm not super close with, since they're already there, do I invite them because it's like like a proximity wise, it's so easy for them to get to you know. I mean, I wouldn't invite people based on proximity. I would invite them based on if you want them at your wedding or not. I mean, I want them there, but the numbers are gonna add up fast. I also thought I had a lot of friends. I really, I thought I was a really popular guy

with a lot of friends. And then we started like inviting people to our engagement party and I was like, man, I'm I'm tapped out. And I was like, twenty people in. I've got a lot of I was actually talking to someone about this here night. I have a lot of friends, but I don't have a lot of like really close friends. I don't have like a group of like ten friends.

And I'm like, well, I guess that's not true. I do, but I've got a lot of friends who I'm like friends with, but I don't interest like I don't see very often, you know, So it makes the whole invite tee thing a little bit more challenge. Um. But yeah, so that's that's what's happening. We're getting married in Colorado. We've already got our wedding planners and stuff, and that money is already adding up very quickly. So we'll see

what happens. But um, was it your let I want to ask you about your Were you like that in high school? Do you find that like in high school you didn't have that many close friends but your friends with everybody? Or did you have like a close knit Yeah, we had a close knit We had a close knit group, but of the close knit group, I felt like they were all really close and I was just like not as close with all of them as they all were with each other. You know, I kind of feel the

same way. I'm curious. Is that everybody's experience in high school or is that just might be because I feel like I hear that a lot where they're like, oh, I was friends a lot of people, but I never had like that close friend group. Like, man, I feel the same way. Is it me? Hi, I'm the problem?

It's me? Is that what we're talking about? It that that's the thing in high school, I had a group of like ten friends and we're all super close and we hung out every single weekend and did everything together. But of that group, I felt like there was only like one or two of them that I could like hang out with just us two, whereas like the other eight. It would be weird if we were hanging out just me and them, you know. That's I think that's the that's the big test is can you hang out with

this person with just you and that person? And if you can't, then you're probably not as good a friends as you think you are. So I don't know, we'll see. It's weird. It's weird having a wedding because it reminds you that you have to think about friendships a little bit more seriously. And it's just something that we don't really think about in our day to day lives. And so now that I have to do this, it's just

I don't know. You have to play in high school again. Yeah, you have to play the hunger games with your friends and family, like which ones are gonna get asked? Uh? So? Yeah, I can't believe this episode is already almost over three. So you're getting married, You have any other goals for the New Year resolutions, And yeah, I really want to climb all of the high points in the USA fifty high points. I think I can do it in a year, and that's my goal. Uh. The only one I'm concerned

about is Mountainali, which is probably not gonna happen. Sob about why would that not happen. It's such a big undertaking. It's like a month long and it's like forty dollars and that's dollars to climb a mountain. Yeah, because you're on the mountain for a month and you can't hire cheap labor as you can in like South South Asia. Um, so it's just expensive. It's a big undertaking. It takes a lot of knowledge and a lot of skill. So that's my goal, but it's it's kind of lofty, So

we'll see if it actually ends up happening. What's your goal, I'll tell you one second. Uh, well, we have multiple goals, right, we all have multiple goles. I'm very curious why it's so expensive for climb a mountain. I understand you to stay there, and so when you pay this money, do you get supplies and food to survive for the month? Yeah, that's part of the expense. Uh supplies, food, like a

guide is expensive, permits can be expensive sometimes. Logistics obviously, like getting there then aali you have to like fly and then you have to like no, I don't even know, I don't really know the logistics against really, but I know it's hard to get to like you have to fly somewhere, take a take a pond skipper somewhere else, take a symobile up and then you're like hiking with these like hundred pounds sleds behind you the whole way, and it's just and then you're on the mount and

like you're taking enough food to last you for a month. So that's expensive, and it's just it's it can get very expensive. That's insane. And the end goal is just you know, you get to the top, right, and then you head back down. But as with with most goals in life, as with most achievements in life, it's like, Okay, that's that, and now what do I do next? But yeah, you're right, you get to the top of mountain and you're like cool, this is cool, and then you just

walk back down. Yeah, but at least, like if I spend money and go on a vacation, I come back home like relaxed and tan. So I got some things that I get to carry back home with me. With you, I mean, I guess you're you know, your soul is fulfilled, whatever the hell that means. So that's nice, I think. I think personally, to go on a trip that physically exerts you and drains you and wears you out is so much more fulfilling than going on a beach vacation

where you just sit clads and get a tan. Don't get me wrong, and they're both they're both good, and they're both enjoyable things. But then to have that experience of climbing the tallest mountain in the USA, in North America for the rest of your life, Like, that's something you take with you for the rest of your life. You don't take a trip to Camcoon with you back for the rest of your life. It depends on the trip. Really. Uh, there's been trips to kick you can get herpes at

last forever. Yeah, that's true, that's true, and that's not a good ending for anybody. Uh. My goal, you know what my goal is in life, and I'm gonna try to manifest it in I want to make a movie. I want to make a movie. So I've always wanted to write and direct my own short film. I feel like I have the capabilities and the creative knowledge to do so, and um, I just want to do it. I just want to do it. But I really have

to find something that i'm uh you know. I've written a couple of different scripts but never finished them, and they've all been various genres. I do love the Scream franchise, so to write maybe a some sort of um, who done it? Uh? Murder mystery, serial killer type aspect of film. Would you know, some sort of uh you know, um

homage to scream something like that could interest me. But I would really want to do it, um and uh, I think I have the capabilities doing it and finding the time and really just planning and uh you know, just doing the damn thing. So that's my goal. I think would be able to write a movie the horror genre as my as I understand it, pound per pound is the best genre to do like a indie film

four because it's less expensive than most others. The scripts are I could be way off on this, but they seem like they're easier to write in the sense that the arc of the movie makes more sense. Like there, you don't have to be like super out of the box to make a good horror movie, you know what I mean? Like you could just kind of follow the traditional wavelength and still make a really solid movie. So yeah, I would I think I think you'd be good at that. Well,

thank you. I'd say that two would be either you want to do a drama or horror comedy. Would be difficult, um to try to get a short film and get like as many laughs in there as possible. I mean, it could work, but it would, I feel like, be more difficult. And then action or science fiction no way. Could you ever try, like on a low Have you ever seen a low budget action movie. It's terrible. It's terrible unless you're intentionally trying to make a terrible movie,

make it terrible. Yeah. So if you do an action adventure movie and you don't make me the main character, I'm gonna revolt. Yeah, I'll just make my Tom cruise. So any dangerous stunt that he does. Do you see that video where he like he's on a motorcycle and he drives it off a cliff and then he watched I watched the behind the scenes of how they film that. It's amazing, mind blowing. He is awesome. God he did that six times. What I mean, I I watched that

movie or I'm sorry I have. I watched that clip of the behind the scenes. And I've always known that Tom Cruise does all of his own stuff and all that kind of stuff, but watching that for a minute clip really made me admire him in a way that I hadn't before, because it's pretty amazing what he's done. And he's like fifty years old and he's still doing this crap. Dude, I think he might be sixty. That's crazy. Good for him, that man is sixty years of age.

Well done, Well done, Tom, collaps for you. I want to say another goal that Kalen and I have together for beside to the wedding, obviously, we want to be back on TV in some way, and so we've been talking to We've been talking to well she told me the shish, but we we whether it's in the form of being contestant on like some game show or Kaitlin and I think we might have the snuff to host our own show. But we're in the very very beginning phases of all this. But we're talking to some people

about it, and that's that's our goal. And I'm saying it as she's shishing me. I'm saying it because I think there's like a self fulfilling prophecy maybe. So if the more we put it out there, maybe the more likely we are to get it back. Put it out there, Baby, it will happen. It will definitely. Have no doubt. You guys are too good on TV, and you guys are back on TV. We'll see, we'll see. That's the hope. Um. But yeah, is there anything else you want to cover

before we I think that's it. First podcast, Suck Army. We thank you all for listening to this podcast. Anybody who comes into Audrey's and tell me, you know says that you're a part of Stuck Army or you listen to the podcast, it means the world to both Diana and I, So thank you so much for listening to this podcast. I mean, we started this. You started in twenty seventeen and then I came on board in ten. So you're talking about five years for you, going on

five years going on four years for me. Now the turn of the year will be six years from me, five years for you. So oh yeah, longest time I've ever had. And you know, you know what, Like you said, we all all to our sucky daters suck suck suck, suck, suck, suck, suck, suck suck. Without you guys, it wouldn't be possible. I every week when we get the rundown from Hannah, who is is uh like one of the producers of the show. Every week we get that email, I'm like, wow, still

not canceled. Another day, another week, it's mine boggling. So again, thank you guys for listening. As always, I wish there was I wish there was a way that we could like legitimately show you our appreciation without just saying, hey, thanks for listening. I really wish there was a way we could prove to you that we are so appreciative of you guys listening to us. I have another idea for a goal of three. We should do a live podcast.

I think that maybe doesn't show like I mean, its appreciation because we want to like be with our the people who listen. I think we should do a live podcast. It will you know, we'll talk about maybe maybe we'll make it free you know what I mean. That's kind of like just come hang out. If you want to listen to us for an hour, you'll be on the show with us. I don't know. That's something to think about. I think we should do a lot podcast. That's another goal of mine. Let's do help I suck at Dating

live edition. If it so happens, So the atogrees, that's great. No, I agree with you. My fear with that is very similar to the fears that I have at the wedding. Is hey live podcast, three people show up? No, we'll get some people. Believe if listen, if this podcast hasn't been canceled yet, come on, now, there are people who listen to this, they will come to a live podcast. You suck arm me out there. Will make this happen. We have to make it real convincing, like real enticing

like pkalin coms actually Dawson Calm. You would have to like like we have to give away like iPads to every guest in attendance, like there has to be some sort of draw for them beyond listening to us talk. But I agree with you, that would be a great goal. Um, but we'll see, we'll see. We've have we done a live podcast before. We've done something similar to that, but I can't remember what it was. We've never done a lot.

I mean, the only time I remember was doing when they did the almost famous live in like San Francisco. I don't know if you were there or not, though, but that was like Jed was there and that's right there. Who the hell outs? I don't know, analyst was there? I don't know. But anyway, we've never done a lot of podcasts helped a second day. Well, we've done those. We we did like an after party thing once. Maybe that's what I'm ticking up. We're getting mixed up with.

But but yes, thank you guys so much for listening to this episode. We hope your three is filled with joy and success and love and money because that's you know, pretty nice to have sometimes too. Um what what else? Shared? Anything else? Before we say a do or a bit of do and welcome everyone into the new year. Happy New Year, everybody. I hope it was a great one. Uh and uh, here we go and we suck just

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