Double Trouble

It's because I think it's because all of us are just doing the same monotonous thing over and over again that you look back and you're like, what have I done the last four months? I feel like is now just going to become a way of describing horrible things? Yeah, like oh what what? What happened to Stephanie Man? But that's definitely gonna be how I'm going to justify my my twenty pounds of weight gain over the past four months. Ah, you put a little weight on? Yeah? Well yeah. Um,

We've got a great episode for you guys today. We're gonna have quite a few guests. Um, We're gonna have the Lovely Chelsea Peretti. You've probably seen her all over the place Brooklyn nine nine. She also has a new movie that's coming onto all streaming platforms, but we'll talk

to her later about that. We're gonna have Haley and Emily Ferguson calling in and dropping a little uh, a little a little east not an Easter egg, but podcast bomb if you will, on us, So stay tuned for that because you're not gonna want to miss out what they have to say. Um, before we do all that, there has been a couple of headlines about a show that's near and dear to mine and Jared's heart. To the Bachelorette. Ah, it looks like from what I've seen, I don't know anything. I am the most in the

dark person about this. In fact, Caitlin had to walk into the bedroom the other night at like eleven PM and tell me what was going on. So apparently Claire has quote unquote quit the season with a guy that she's interested in, uh, And they brought in a new bachelorette, which they've officially announced tes Tatia. So I think that we're fully welcome to talk about this non spoil or whatever it looks like. Ta Sho has been brought in

mid season to replace Claire as the Bachelorette. And this is my surface level knowledge of understanding, because again I get my uh news of Bachelorette through the curated Instagram posts for some reason that they think that I care about and I care enough to talk about it. Now, Um, Jared, what do you think about all this? It's weird because like everybody's confirming Tastia as the Bachelorette, but Warner or ABC hasn't said anything yet, so that's kind of weird.

Here's what I see. And I know that Lauren Zima isn't like the voice of Warner or anything like that, but she's been tweeting and confirming and saying all this stuff that tastes a bachelorette e. New said something like US Weekly again not warnered themselves saying anything, but it sounds to me like it's happening, right, But yeah, I mean it. It sounds like it's happening, which is crazy. Also great because the rumor is Claire left with a guy, like the fact that like she had to leave the

show because she just couldn't fake it. She was so in love with this one particular person that they like, she they had to get another bacheloret because like there everybody knew and the other dudes didn't have a chance. So if that is true, that's awesome because then you have one love story Claire leaves, and then now you insert Tasia and she has the potential of finding her own love stories, so you could find you know, two people could find their husbands on one season. I guess

that's pretty good, isn't in Claire good? God, Like, if this is true, talk about like the prototypical right reasons person on the show, Like she just doesn't bullshit around. She went in, found her husband, was like all right, I'm good, get me the hell out of here. That's crazy that they even literally like I don't know, obviously, we don't know exactly what happened, but it's crazy that the show is like, yeah, that's a good idea, let's do that, and then we'll just bring someone else in.

You know, it's gonna be really interesting to find out what exactly happened. Like, I bet you if we talked to like any of our friends that have been the Bachelor bachelorettes, I bet you they were like, yeah, I probably knew like twelve days in, but I had to

finish out the rest of the season filming wise. Anyways, you probably like that kind of makes sense, like it sounds like it sucks because you knew who you wanted to pick anyways, But in this case, it sounds very much like that's the case, and she's just like, nope, I'm just not gonna film anymore, you know, Yeah, totally. It's weird, like how great was this was the connection? Just like off the charts that she really couldn't fake it.

I don't know, like I feel like, like you said, yeah, there are other leads in the past that probably felt very similar where they were like, Okay, I know who I'm gonna pick three weeks in and now I just have to fake it. I don't want to, but I guess I have to. So I'm curious, like what happened? You know what? We can definitely say about it that we don't know what we're talking about. And in addition

to that, uh no, that' my funny, man, unbelievable. It really like, just when you think things can't get anywhere or all right, we're gonna insert a different bachelor rette. I love though, I'm super happy for same is great. I'm stoke. I was pulling for Tasia before the Claire announcement. Anyways,

happy for Claire. Don't get me wrong, Um, I just you know, I've been become friends with Tasha through the show and everything, so I'm stoked to see her hopefully find her love story if that's the case, if you know, if that actually is confirmed. Again, I don't know. I don't know either, but yeah, well I'm a big Tasia fan as well. So were you have another topic? Hot topics to start off the show? We're recording really ear in the morning. What time is it? It's like eight thirty?

Good God, anyway, I have coffee. I'm good. Jason Momoa received a birthday wish from his wife, Lisa Bonnet's x Lenny Kravitz. And so Lenny is Lisa's ex and Lisa is now married to Jason Momoa, and apparently Lenny is super close with both Jason and Lisa to the point like he's obsessed with them and he's like previously spoken

about about being close with both of them. But anyway, Lenny posted a picture of Jason Moe for his birthday, and people are losing their minds over this thing because they just love how much Lenny loves Jason and Lisa. So I guess the question for me, Dean is could you ever be super close with one of your ex is who's in a relationship now. I think that these people are just born different, you know, Like it's it's Lenny Kravitz arguably like the most uh the most I

don't know, bangable art musician out there. It's freaking Aquaman, who everyone's got a heart on for Aquaman. Um So it's like, I don't like, obviously Lenny Kravitz is gonna be comfortable enough with his with himself, with his former relationships and all these things to be like, uh, happy birthday to my bro who's also dating my ex you know what I mean. I don't know. I just think that these people are just born different and they have zero,

um uh, what's the word. I'm looking for, zero insecurities about this type of stuff, especially like in the entertainment industry. I guess like they've been in it for so long that they kind of understand, uh that you can't really hold these grudges anyway. It's like as sop as it is I'm sorry. Language is like, imagine all the good pr that they're getting just for this because they're all friends, you know, I don't know. Oh yeah, I feel like it's not just as much a business decision as it

is a personal decision. But yeah, like you said, like Lenny post a picture of Jason mot and it's literally blowing up and now Lenny's you know, trending on Twitter or whatever. Yeah, I agree with you. I think that it's just like a different world being that like that level of celebrity. I I could never relate. They're just all they're born different. Like you said, uh, and Lenny and least I have a kid together. You guys probably know her. It's Zoe Kravitz. So I guess like Jason

Momoa coming in, it's Jason. I don't know much about Jason Momoa. I know him. He's he's cal Drogo on Game of thrones's been watching that. He's Aquaman, which I honestly I haven't seen that movie, but he's like he's like one of the biggest actors in the world at the moment too, So it's like he's a sexy man too, goddamn stud Yeah, and he's a monster. He's like, he looks freaking huge, he's freaking cal drogo for getness sick.

But my point is it's like, if if Lisa and let me have a kid together, then Jason comes into the picture, It's like, what choice do they all have other than being I'm not I'm not gonna say being obsessed with each other, because I guess you could maybe maybe scale it back a little bit, but uh, it seems like they're doing they're doing what's good for not only the kids, but for themselves, you know, yeah, totally.

I mean, once you have a kid together, like you guys, like you were talking about, it changes at the game and like you have, you want to be at least cordial with your ex to make sure that you know, the parents are still very much involve all in the kid's life. So it's pretty cool to see that Lenny is not only involved but just like best friends with them all. Um, So let's talk about let's talk about the next couple that's kind of This one hits a little closer to home for me at least. So Brian

Auson Green and Megan Fox split up. Megan Fox has since been dating, you know, presumably monogamously with Machine Gun Kelly. But Brian Auson Green apparently has been dating multiple people, as we do when we start dating other people, right Like, you go on multiple dates, you figure out who you like,

you figure out who you don't like. But Brian Auson Green has come in to talk about how he feels like he's being a little unfairly criticized for dating multiple multiple people and how his life is under a microscope because he is quote unquote famous or in the public eye whatever. Um, what do you think about this? I don't know is he is he getting scrutiny or is he just like reading his own Twitter feed? Yeah. I feel like people just read way too much in comments

and then they start losing their mind. It is funny how personal a lot of people take like these, uh, these little one off trolling comments on Twitter and stuff like that. Yeah. I mean, I'm not like in the know of pop culture. You know, a lot a lot of the news I get is from Nashley. But like Brian Austin Green, I I haven't heard any criticism for for his dating. Maybe he is widely being criticized for

it and he's he's lashing back for it. But I just feel like he's reading his own Twitter mentions and like half of his Twitter mentions say we love you, Brian, and half of his Twitter mentions are saying, uh, you suck, And that's just like being in the public eye. I feel like, but I mean, dude, date whoever you want if you're single and you're being honest to these women and you're just saying, listen, I'm I'm out there, I'm dating and I'm not sure if I'm ready to settle down,

Like then you're fine, you don't. There's our criticism for that. There's nothing wrong with being single as long as you're being honest. And now he's kind of perpetuating it to like we're all talking about him dating or round, which means more like you know, there's gonna be like more

talk of him dating around. I think this issue here is going from dating someone like Megan Fox, who is like widely heralded as like you know, like she's obviously been the hottest girl around for basically two decades at this point there, it's like after you go from Megan Fox to whoever you go from, you're kind of kind of be labeled as a as an f boy, you know what I mean. So it's like, yeah, fairly though I feel like, oh, don't get me wrong, it's totally unfair.

But it's like I think people are coming to Megan support and being like, oh, Brian Austin Green is now dating people like he was never a good guy in the first place, you know what I mean. Yeah, I remember when Machine Gun Gilly and Eminem had that feud. You remember that at all? They they wrote like this songs back and forth to each other. The rap worlds is a world that I would not be. I would not thrive it. But so it's I've never listened to Machine Gun Kelly. I find his music, in my opinion,

very good. I have friends who know the guy, and they all say he's really really great and nice. He's also were like really good friends with Pete Davidson, and I'm a big Pete Davidson stand guy. So uh um, I like Machine Gun Kelly because of that association. I haven't jumped on the Pete Davidson chain. But you want to talk about someone that dates around, and that's Pete Davidson through and through. It seems like he's always dating

someone new. I don't know. I mean it does he I mean obviously the Ariana Grande stuff like freaking blue up. It was that two years ago. Damn, that's crazy. I remember that summer when like everybody got engaged, Pete Davidson, Ariana Grande, I think nick and what's her name, Prianka? Yes, Nicko, Priyanka got engaged. And there's somebody else. Oh, Justin and Haley they got married. I don't know, I don't ask me.

The only reason I remember that is because that was the summer actually and I got engaged, and like we were like kind of lumped into that group, which is like the coolest thing ever because we're so undeserving of it, but like, you know, we were the last ones. It was like Justin and Haley they were talking about all the engagers during the summer, and they were at the top, and then we had like a little blurb at the bottom. But the fact that we had a little blurb like

attached to that article was like really cool. Are you kind of pissed that Justin Bieber still your thunder a little bit? Not at all? The fact that I will jump on Justin Bieber's back anytime, I mean, it's good now. I looked it up. So I looked at Pete Davidson's most recent ex girl friends because I do remember a couple of big names in there, and the first ones that come up, I'm just gonna read them all for

you real quick. Okay, I'm ready, all right. So it's uh, Carly Aquilino, which I don't know who that is either, Kazzie David You know who that is. Oh, that's Larry David's daughter. Larry David's daughter. Yep, that's awesome. This was a couple of years ago. They split two many two years ago. Are you on a grandde We all know that one's super well. Kate beck and Sale, which was the one that I was thinking of. Kate Beckinsale obviously is a big name. Remember that one. What a weird

couple but also awesome at the same time. Didn't Kate Beckinsale used to date someone else interesting too. I think she's she's dated a lot of guys. She's gotten flak for it, which again is such bull I wish I could just swear. I swear, I know, but it's just gonna get bleaped out. It sucks. We should really start swearing on this podcast, because, like, it's just a part of my vernacular. But anyway, it's just bulls that Kate Beckinsale is getting backlash. She's single too, like who cares?

Let her date whoever she wants. Yeah, I guess I looked it up. She does. She she actually hasn't had that many boyfriends, but I guess as soon as she started dating Pete Davidson, who I mean, it is admittedly twenty years her junior. Maybe that's kind of why drew so many more headlines or her junior. You're reminded me of Indiana Jones, the Jr. Nobody gets my references. Yeah, you're a little too nerdy for for some of those

actually doesn't get my references either. It's honestly like one of the downsides of our relationship because I'm a big movie quote guy and she doesn't know any of the movies I quote. I'm sure there's a lot of women listening that can relate to that that like their guys just quote movies and they have no idea what the hell they're talking about, and the guy thinks they're really funny,

and the girl thinks they're an idiot. I feel like it's kind of typically how relationships work anyways, the girl thinks the guys an idiot and the guy is an idiot. Oh, I mean that's like universally known. But I'm just talking about movie other things that you do that Calin just like our jokes that you crack that Caitlin just does not get like for me, Like I said, I quote movies, Well you were what hell you're You're younger than Ashley, aren't you by like nine months? Yeah, so you guys

are pretty close in age. It's funny how much of a difference because Caitlin's twenty five, I'm twenty nine. It's funny how much of a difference just those four years make. In like our pop culture, like the movies that I watched as a kid versus the movies that she watched as a kid. And and granted, like geography was different.

I was in Colorado, she was in Virginia, And people just get brought up differently in different parts of the country, obviously, but I'll like there are times where all like reference like a Disney Channel original movie, uh, and she has never heard of it or never seen it. And you ever see like those those memes where it's like if she doesn't know the fresh Prince of bel Air in show songs, she's too young for you, bro, oh all

the time. I love those things. Yeah, And so I'm always like, if she doesn't know who Andy Brink Brinker is, she's too young for you, bro, And she like doesn't know who Brink is, and like just like a little stupid things like that, who's Brink? Is that? The Disney original movie that you're talking about? Is that the skateboarding one? It's not skateboarding, humaniac, it's roller but's soul skating, rollerblading, Okay,

roller blading. I think I remember that one. That was like one of the best, if not the best, Disney Channel original movies. So little things like that, even I guess because you're thirty two, I'll be thirty two in November, so I'm a little bit older than you. So that's why I think the movies are a different. So there's some jokes that fall to the cracks because of that disconnects. But then also she watches like a lot of like

real housewives and reality shows. Oh, she's a reality v junkie, and she's like, do you know who this girl is? Or this girl is? And I'm like, uh, not really, is that okay? Yeah? And they're like, I guess I would recognize their faces. There's a couple of ones that she's watching now that I'm like, oh, yeah, I know who that person is, but I never would have thought to like register them in my memory otherwise, you know what I mean. Yeah, Ashley had me watching Fiance last

week and it's I just it's good. It's good TV. I like ninety Day Fiance, but I just have a hard time getting into reality TV, which is very ironic seeing how my life was surrounded and still is my reality TV. Yeah, that is pretty especially just given who your wife is. I think. I mean, she's the ultimate reality TV junkie personality. That's like just so you know, she loves it, you know what, I love my wife.

She's the best. We do have Chelsea Peretti, who's not on the line yet, but she will be coming on very shortly and we're very excited to have her on the podcast. Um you know her from Brooklyn uh nine. She has a new movie coming out on v o D Calling Spinster. We're very excited to talk to Chelsea, but before we do, let's take a quick break. Wait, before we take a break, can I say something? Of course, you can say whatever you want, Jane. This is your podcast,

this is our podcast. There's gonna be We're gonna probably mention this a few times throughout this podcast and next week podcast, but I at least want to mention it here as well. On August eighteen, at five thirty Pacific, we are having a help I Suck at Dating live show. You heard that right, We're having a live show. We're gonna do it digitally, of course. Um, you can get your tickets there ten dollars, but if you buy the special ticket package for twenty dollars, you also get a

free Suck Army beanie with that ticket. Um. We all suck at dating. August eighteen couples days, so obviously if you suck at dating, you'll be available that day to join us. We're stick to be doing it. We've never done this before. We don't really know how it's going to go, but we know we're gonna have a lot of fun. We know that we want you there. If you want a ticket again, we're gonna chech. We're gonna

we're gonna promote this later on as well. But if you want to ticket, go to high Sad dot tixer dot com, so h I s A D dot t i x r dot com uh and check it out. Be sure to get the free beanie with your special ticket as well. It should be fun. I don't know, like obviously we have the ability to edit post show with these podcasts, so it'll be interesting to see how a live show goes. But I'm looking forward to it. What do you think, Jared? Yeah, it will be fun.

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ones Dean and I had. We posted about them a while ago, and Dean, Dean and I just had black with white lettering. But these are Camo beanies with white and orange lettering. They're pretty awesome. Bucks, it's a good deal. We'll see you August eighteen. All right, welcome back to help I suck it dating with a very special guests on the line right now. You know her from a role on Fox's Brooklyn nine nine. She has a new movie.

Well it's it's been out for a little while, but it's coming to v O D and Digital on August seven. It is called Spinster. It is the wonderful, the funny Chelsea Peretti. Chelsea, thank you so much for joining us. Thanks for having me. Guys know, we appreciate it. So talk a little bit about Spinster, which will be like I said, on v O D and Digital on August seven. Uh, Spinster is a story about a woman who uh is single on her thirty ninth birthday. And why did you

want to do this movie? Um? Well, I liked stories that aren't like you know, cliche. Um, romance stories and this movie was directed by Andrew Dorfman, who lives in Nova Scotia. I looked. I checked out her other movies when I was off with the role, and I thought she was so cool and I love female directors. Um, that are good, and uh, I wanted to go to Nova Scotia and I liked her work. So it just

kind of came together. I was, I had it. I think my son was eight months old at the time, so I kind of me and my son and my awesome nanny we all went to Nova Scotia, and um, I had this little adventure. But yeah, I just liked the role that it was looking at, you know, making your own life interesting and making your own life exciting and not looking externally for someone else to do that for you, you know about especially especially in Nova Scotia. I can only imagine how difficult it be to meet

someone in Nova Scotia. And we watched we watched the trailer for the movie just before having you on here, and we were admiring it looks great, looks hilarious. Um was it? Was it for a role like that? Right? Because you are married, you do have a child. Is it weird? To like put yourself into a role where you're kind of like the same person in ways but

then also so very different at the same time, you know. Yeah, I mean I felt like there was a time before I got before I met my husband, where I was like, well, men in l A are kind of like suck and are you guys based in l A. We are, but we fully agree with you that men in l A su Yeah, it's it's a nightmare. So I was like, you know, I'm a comedian. All my friends are like

the funniest people in country. Worst case scenario, I'm going to travel a lot, I'm gonna laugh a lot, and I'm gonna have a great life, and I'm probably never going to meet someone in l A. Because, like I said, you know, the men here are um questionable. So then out of nowhere, my husband came and then I had a child, and all these things came together. But I certainly wasn't sure my whole life if that's what my future would hold, or even if that's what I wanted

until I met him. Um, but yeah, I had a whole vision of what my life would be without out my family and and all that, and and I kind of come to terms with it. So I liked that this character goes on this journey to figure out. You know,

it's a very small, sweet movie. It's not like you know, it's just it's it's sort of like living with someone and kind of taking them in and joining them on this sort of like small journey to figure out like a way to be happy, which you know, as as as many of us are quarantined aside from you know, all the influencers that are having big parties right now. Yeah, yeah, you know, it's it's kind of I think will be a nice a nice tone and in that it's very

kind of meditative. Yeah. I like the message of the movie because there is this stigma around women being sing little later in life. I feel like there's more of a stingba for it than there is a man, if that makes sense, Like a man is single in his late thirties, it's seen as more normal, whereas a woman who's single in her late thirties it's it's jarring. Which most people that I know in big cities tend to settle down later, whether they're women or men. You know,

I kind of feel like it's like a city thing. Um, But yeah, I mean, part of the l a thing is like every guy here wants to be with like a twenty year old, so it's not you know, or even younger as some news stories explained. But yeah, so it's nice to um, well, now getting out a tangent.

But yeah, in the in the movie, you know, she she's nurturing other relationships in her life, and you know, I think like that's the way to love yourself and to love someone else's by focusing on all the relationships in your life. You can't just isolate and focus everything on one person because that's you know, making them like

God or something. Right. Yeah, there's a lot of messages in the movie that I really enjoy, one of them being you're discussing the like in the movie you talk about, Uh, somebody was like kind of criticizing your character for growing up older being single, and you're like, why is that a bad thing? Because I'm not dying young. That's a good thing, being like having the opportunity to grow old.

And I feel like, you know, especially in this podcast, because this is what we do, we talk about dating relationships, but we solely focused on the idea of meeting that person, getting married and having kids, which is wonderful and important, but also you know, other people, like there's other happiness in other ways to find love, and I feel like it generates from from within mostly, like you have to find happiness from within before you can find it with

someone else. And this is what kind of like the theme of the movie is to me. Yeah, yeah, I mean I just got distracted because I was like, you know, I know that we've watched you guys in the Bachelor, and I'm like, I can't I'm trying to remember what I felt about you, and I can't remember. And it's like I I should have been like deeply revisiting these things before I talk to you, So get into it. But I'm wait, so you guys are both are you

and are you single? Are you married? We're both in relationships. My mind is a little bit less uh less Eve though Dean wears a ring on his finger, but he says he's not married. Okay, Okay, so you know, I think nowadays you can do it however you want. But the true thing is, like with climate change, I think that like marriage and kids is starting to seem more

and more. I mean, what is it just seems more and more like a choice of many choices, because you know, it's scary to have a kid right now and be what is the future? Right? That's that's what I mean. It's an important thing to talk about. It's actually funny because my because Calin really wants kids at some point. I've always been pro pro kid up until like the last five or so years, when I'm starting to say, like, is it really ethical to bring a child into this world?

Because like you said, it's like with climate change everything and even just like political turmoil that everything is going on, It's like, is it really good time to bring bring a kid in this world? And obviously I think, like the thing is, it's like the main reason we're all here is for pro creation, right is like to kind of pass on our lineage onto the next people below us or whoever raised children to come after us. But like it's just it's maybe it's like you just let

have less children than we're used to having. Like before in the seventies, eighties, nineties, it was like, oh, I've got a family of seven siblings, but now it's more like only Child's definitely statistically true, people are having way less kids. But I also think like on your generations, are not even sure if yeah, like what you're saying,

if it's even ethical I have kids. I mean I think that, um, you know, on some level where animals, even though we convince ourselves where all these other things like or we're so different from animals, and so I think we have like instincts and desires, but I mean some of us do not. Everyone wants to have a kid and um, but so in some ways, I'm like, well, you just have your kid, and you survive as long as you can. But it's just it, it is terrifying to be like, I didn't mean to take this podcast

to this place. Let's talk about I'm like, the world is ending. Don't have kids, it's all downhill. But I mean, I guess it is like to bring it back to the movie Spinster. It's like, you know, I think not having kids is absolutely I as intelligent and as instinct of of a choice at this point as having kids. And you know, it's cool to explore someone who's having

a beautiful life and it's not about that. You know, it's like a woman who that's not her her means to happiness and contentment, and you know there's no like to be continued kind of thing. It's just like she figures, you know, she she finds a way to um make her life full. So for the listeners out there, because we do have women uh in their you know, thirties, forties, fifties even that listen to this podcast that are I would imagine single, what advice would you have for them?

I know you said to not prioritize your just for your one romantic relationship. You have all these other relationships that you should focus on as well. But is there anything maybe that you learned through the movie or even just through your own personal life that like one bit of advice that you can give someone uh that's around the thirty or forty age range that that might be struggling with it. Well, this book, there's this this um I think she's a therapist. She has this whole book series,

Dance of This, Dance of that. But one of them is Dance of Connection. And I read it many many, probably decades ago, like five decades. Oh yeah, I forgot, but but she talks about that concept of like it's counterintuitive, but if you want to improve your love relationship, you need to work on your other relationships. So like, if you have issues with your parents and you don't resolve them, and then you put all those issues right into your

new relationship, you know, with this this love relationship. So I liked that concept, and I do think this movie kind of echoes those concepts. And it's up to you, Like do you think where do you think that my character will eventually wind up? I think it's in the eye of the beholder. It's up to you too to have your own interpretation. But I feel personally attacked after hearing that. I'll be honest, Why, Yeah, I got it. I got a lot of ironing out my relationship with

my father to do. But well, listen, don't we all? Don't we all? Yeah, those are never even there. You know. That's like, that's one hurdle you cleared if your dad is even around, right, I'll take this as a as a catalyst to to help me improve that perhaps, Yeah, I mean, listen, it doesn't have to be your dad if that wants to challenge you. But I'm just saying, you know, you can't have dysfunction with everyone else in your life, and then I think that your your love

relationship is going to be perfect, you know, for sure? Yeah, absolutely, all right, Kelsea. Well, so we have Spencer coming out on V O D and digital everywhere August seven, right where else can we uh look to find anything else that you're working on? Well, I'm I'm a musician now as well. I've created an album. It's a concept album about coffee. Um, and as we all know, coffee is very sexy and oh it's the best. I'm drinking mine right now. Listen, I had I had a ton this morning.

Um didn't really help me get organized, but that's right. But but yeah, so I have an EP called Foam and Flotsam. I wanted to choose the most pretentious title I could think of, and and I have a new EP coming out um really soon that I'm excited about, and then we'll have the album after that. So it's I'm working with a producer called cool ko Jack, who is like a true real producer and has made my my songs actually sound good. So they're funny and but

they're still good. Do you guys smell that? I don't know if you guys can smell that from all the over there, but it smells like a Grammy. That's right, we got a Grammy on our hands. If they still exist, we'll see what happens when we all emerge from our houses. What's going to happen? Fair point? All right, Chelsea, Well, thank you so much for joining us. For the listeners, be sure and checker out on Spinster, and be sure to check out the album coming out. Come tell me

one more time. It's Foam and from Them, and then there will be on mowep. But if you search my name, Chelsea Peretti, one ur two teas, you'll find it. Let's get this girl at Grahammy you guys, thank you so much for joining us. Thanks guys, Thanks, take care. All right, we're gonna take one quick break and when we get back, we have two more guests you're not gonna want to miss, and we're gonna answer some very pressing listener emails before we hit the break. I just want to encourage the emailers.

I suck a Dating on iHeart media dot Com sent him in. We'll answer him live on air on our live show even perhaps, but we'll take a quick break and we'll be right back. All right, welcome back to help I Suck at Dating. We have two very special women who are on the line right now. You of course know of them from the Bachelor franchise, and there are also hosting uh their podcast this week, What a Girl Wants, which will be in our feed the Help I Suck a Dating feene on our Heart Radio app

or wherever you get your podcast. It is Emily and Haley ferguson the Fergi Twins, The Twins. Emily Haley, how are you guys? Hi? Guys, Hi, how are you guys? Thanks so much for letting us host. Oh, of course it's our privilege. You're gonna do far better than we ever. Could I promise you that? No, no way, that's impossible. I mean we were pretty funny. Yeah, I'm not gonna lie. We were pretty funny, but you guys are usually pretty funny. So tell us tease us a little bit about what

we can expect this Thursday from What a Girl Wants. So, my sister and I both date professional athletes, so we talked about how to land an athlete and some silly funny stories about dating European men, and then we, I don't know, there's just so much that we do. We talk a lot about dating. We how we kind of went from sucking at dating to how we are now in really good relationships and love now. So yeah, it's pretty much it without giving too much away, it's a

lot about dating. I'm I'm excited to hear this because last time I talked to Haley, she was like, yeah, I'm not going to date an athlete because I've talked to a couple of them I didn't like them. So I gotta say this one has to be very special, and I'm looking forward to listening to the podcast because we might be able to learn a little bit more about what makes them so special. Yeah, it's so true.

I was definitely dead set on like not dating an athlete, but I changed her mind because athletes aren't as bad as people perceived them to be. I mean, some of them probably suck, absolutely, but that just goes for all the European ones don't suck. Okay, they're awesome. It seems like you guys landed a couple of winners too, which

is absolutely I definitely feel that way too. And you guys also date hockey players, and I feel like hockey players just have a different mentality than other professional sports. I agree. That actually makes me happy that you said that because I agree, like, I definitely like when we were working in the clubs met a bunch of different types of athletes, never really hockey players. But now that we've met hockey players, there, to me just a little differ,

very different, a little more like down to earth. I don't know. I can't explain it, but they're really good people. Well, you get the chance to explain it on Thursday when we listen to you guys on what what is it? What a woman? What a girl wants? I'm sorry, I keep wanting to say what a woman wants, but that's the Mel Gibson movie and I got to stop mixing those up. Sweet. Well, we're excited, and honestly, like Jared said, you guys are probably gonna host better than we ever

could and you'll replace us on help. I second dating permanently, but it's a risk we're willing to take. Honestly. Oh, it's just inevitable at this point. Once you guys got your foot in the door, it's all over. Oh No, guys are awesome. I'm blushing. That's too nice though. Yeah. Well, I have a question though for you guys, before you started dating your respective boyfriends, what was it like dating

as twins? Because we all a little bit on that on our season of Bachelor Paradise, where you guys, I forget the guy's name that you guys want to date with, but you tricked him that Brandon Brandon. Do you guys ever do that outside of Paradise? We're like Emily, you would go on a date, but then halfway through the day, Haley,

you would switch and see if you notice. No, we've never done that, but like we've definitely like helped each other, righte text messages, like she would take my phone and pretend to be me and then like just help me talk to guys. But we've never actually switched. And the boy that Haley dates now is all because of me, because I was I was always way better at dating than Haley Woods just picking guys in general. But I mean we usually have complete opposite tastes in men looks. Why,

so it was never really an issue like dating guys. Yeah, but like definitely in the past before we started dating, athletes who were just terrible at dating never went on dates because they're so awkward and so hard to like. It's so first dates are the actually worst thing in the world. They're so awkward and they usually always want to go out to eat, which is just like what

if food gets stuck in my teeth? Like, I don't know why used to take fireball shot before you Yeah, she used to have fireball in her car ready to take shots before her date. You know, you never know when you need a little fireball. Yeah. See, well we're stuck to listen to more from you guys on Thursday.

We know you've got to get out of here, but on Thursday, What a Girl Wants on the I Heart Radio app from this podcast or wherever you get your podcasts, be sure to check out Hailey and Emily ferguson We're stoked guy. Yeah, of course, looking forward to hearing more from your talk soon. Yeah, that's gonna be awesome. All right, enjoy getting your hair done. Thank you by all right.

As if we didn't plug it enough this Thursday, Uh, they will be coming out with their own episode of What a Girl Wants, a sub branch podcast of Help I Sucker Dating. We're gonna make this more of a regular fixture. Well we'll bring in former alums. Of course they will be girls, because that's with the title entails. You're sick of here in perspective of me and Jared of Guys on on on dating and all the stupid things that we don't know. So we're bringing in, We're

bringing in more experts. I feel like what we say this every week, but we just like continue continue to spew nonsense and listen, which is great, thank you for listening. But I feel like, maybe bring some women and start speaking some intelligence on this podcast would be a good idea. And even if it's more nonsense that at least it'll be coming from nonsense without a y chromosome, which I

think might also be beneficial for our listeners about. Yeah, so tune in this Thursday, What a Girl Wants This week, we'll have Emily and Haley on. Next week we will have another host or hosts. We will tell you more about that next week as it goes on. But we're stoked about this. I'm excited to hear from them as well. So let's tune in, all right, sweet, let's take a

little break, all right, welcome back. We are going to hit a couple of emails before sending you guys on your way today, as we always like to do um before we do, Before we do this, before burns your earbuds off. We want to make sure and encourage you guys to email us. It's a help. I suck it dating, you know, I suck it dating at iHeart Media dot com. Wow, I'm just it's too early, man. I had any coffee? Coffee? Yeah,

I don't know how you're doing this podcast. Well, I'm staying at Courtney's house in Malibu and I felt bad waking him up to make me coffee. He's got like a very fancy French press or no, like a spresso machine. Now tell him it makes the coffee. Yeah, yeah, Courtney made me some coffee. Uh yeah, okay, maybe like to deliver some of that French press over here to West Hollywood. I appreciate it. Yeah, alright, anyways, I suck a dating at iHeart Media at dot com. Don't forget to email us.

We love hearing from you guys. You know that, so keep them coming. All right. We got an email from our favorite emailer, Anonymous a k a. Jared Nick Mile. Yeah that's who it is. Uh, Nick wants to know. Okay, Anonymous wants to know Hidina, Jared. I love listening to your podcast. My question is can you be friends with benefits with next? My ex broke up with me and we still hook up and hang out. He says he still has feelings for me, but he doesn't want to

be in a relationship. Help, what do I do? Can I still be friends with him? I think you're all kind of know where this one's going, right, are we kind of on the same page of this one saying that, Listen, it's hard to be friends of the next, it's even

harder to be friends with the next that you're sleeping with. Um. It sounds like, sorry, sorry to put you into a pigeonhole here, Anonymous, but it sounds like you probably still want to be in a relationship with your ex and he doesn't want to be and you might think that by sleeping with him and being in a friends with benefit situation might eventually warm him up to the idea of getting back into a relationship with you. And listen, don't get me wrong, I've been on both sides of this.

I have been uh friends with an X that I've wanted to get back with and we've been hooking up. And I've also been friends of the next hooking up with them knowing after the fact that they wanted to get back with me. Uh. And I can tell you wholeheartedly with confidence that neither of those worked out well. They didn't end poorly. There was no fighting, there was no bridges being burned, but obviously, uh, we never got back to being in relationships, whether I wanted to or

whether they wanted to, or vice versa. So I just want to say, like, for this emailer, if your end goal is to get back with your ex, the likelihood of that happening, because you guys are in a friends with benefit situation now, is very slim. Yeah, I don't have expectations for this one. If you're hooking up with them and you have no expectations of getting back together and you just kind of want to hook up with your X, I mean, go forward, sure, do whatever you want.

It's free country, but there's I don't buy into this, bs of Oh. I still have feelings for you, but I just don't want to be in a relationship right now. Don't fall for it, don't listen to it. It's probably best if you just cut it off right now, like Dean says, before you get her even further. Uh, because you're not getting back together with this guy. That's what it sounds like to me. I mean, you can be friends with I'm sure that's what the emailer asked, Like,

can I be still be friends with him? Of course you can't. Sure why not you'd be friends with benefits, But if there's feelings involved and you have expectations of getting back together, bad news. Cut it off now. Yeah, this sounds like something that I would say, like five years ago, when I was like twenty four. You know, I'm sure that they're probably around that same age change as well, But it sounds like something that the guy is saying because maybe he does have feelings for her.

But uh, like, look, he's got every chance to be in a relationship with you now, and he's not taking that chance. So I think he's kind of just being lazy. And he knows that you're comfortable, you know, as you're familiar. He kind of knows what you like, what you don't like, and so he's just basically biding his time by hooking up with you, hanging out with you without committing fully

to a relationship. That's my two cents. I don't doubt that this guy probably has feelings for her too, But there's a difference between having feelings for someone and being willing to commit to someone, and so I like, if you're looking if this email is looking for a committed relationship with this with this guy that she's friends with, I go someplace else. That's that's my advice. Yeah, I agree. Um,

all right, we have one more emailer from anonymous. Not many emails today, so email us I secre dating at i heeart media dot com. This emailer says, Jared, this question is directed directly at you. I am dating a boy. I think he's so great, but I also know that he wants to hook up with my best friend. I've hooked up with my best friend in the past in college. We all have those days in parentheses, um, and and

we're experimenting. But my boyfriend now wants to hook up with her as well, and he wants me to be included. Do you think I should let him do it? Or do you think I should nix it even though I've already hooked up with both of them? Just so you guys know, they've never hooked up with each other. A ka were twenty six My Boyfriend's seven I Love You Guys podcast listen every week five stars on iTunes. Suck

Army Suck suck suck. That's from Anonymous. Well, thank you Anonymous for listening to the podcast, and thank you for the five star review. If anybody's listening out there and wants to give us a five star review, we would obviously love to take it. But seriously, thank you everybody listening to this podcast right now, because of course without you guys, there is no podcast, and then Dean and I are are probably living, uh in a van intervention doing that, but now I'd be living in a van. Um.

Hold on, I'm confused. Is this guy asking for her to be in a throutle know, from the sound of it, it sounds like he just wants to have like, you know, a little a little a little fun, a little manage. Yeah. I mean again, depends on your comfort level. I don't know. I feel like anytime you introduce a third person into a relationship, uh, it causes issues. But I mean, people are in throttles and they're very happy, so who am

I to judge? But I feel like, more often than not, if you're not looking to be in a committed relationship and you're just introducing a third person into like a sexual experiment, I don't know, maybe I'm wrong, but I feel like that introduces a lot of insecurities and jealousy. But again, it's entirely up to you. It's your that's how comfortable you feel, you know, listen, it's as long

as you guys are being safe and honest. Um. You know, if you want to experiment and try something new and you're both comfortable with it, and everybody involved is comfortable and and you know you guys are all on the same page and have the same expectations, I would just advise communicating with one another thing go or sure? Why not? I'm curious why this person directed this question towards you. Maybe maybe they want you to be part of their throuble.

I mean, that could be fun, but unfore, you know, not unfortunately, But I'm I also bring Ashley into the equation, so it would be a a four of a fourth four pal a quadruple. A quadruple would would actually ever be interested in doing something like that. It's hard for me to imagine the scenario where that'd be okay to do. No, No, she would not be down for that. Yeah, I don't think. I don't think they wan will be very down for

it either. Um. I agree with everything you said. It's funny because I've had friends, uh, both guys and girls on both sides, that have been in relationships with people that have introduced a third person for you know, the quote unquote fun parts and then also been the third person that gets introduced to the couples. Uh. And it's funny because I've heard these stories, but they are all old stories. Do you know their stories from when they were like in their mid to late twenties and they

were just feeling experimental or whatever. Um. And I've been hard pressed to hear a story, like a recent story of any of my friends doing this. Did they like one being one part of the equation over the other. Did they say they enjoyed being in the relationship more or they enjoy being like the individual that entered the relationship? You want know what's funny is I've never really heard of anyone thoroughly enjoying either of them. Yeah, yeah, yeah, all right, um And so yeah, I think I agree

with what you're saying is communication is important. But also it's like, I don't think you should necessarily give into your urges for you know, an hour of something that you might know like not be happy about days weeks, months years later. You know that that's something that could

drive a ledge potentially through a relationship. And it always makes me think of that that Entourage episode where he is dating Sloan and then Sloan's like hot friend comes and she wants to do that, and Sloan like has

her rule. She's like, yeah, okay, we can do this, but you like you can't have sex with her, uh and whatever else, and then like he gets like fixated on this other girl uh, and he gets like obsessed with her and he wants to cheat on his girlfriend just to hook up with her just them too, and then it creates this divide and then she leaves and and all that stuff. But but yeah, I guess more of that story is it doesn't really seem like much

good can come from thruple circumstances. Yeah, I don't know. Again, I it's just not I don't know, it's not something I could do. But again, to each of their own. You know, there's a lot of things that I can't do in this world, including probably skydiving. That's something you can do. So yeah, yeah, I'm doing that tomorrow. Actually, Um, it's funny too because I think about uh, I try to put myself in Kaylin's shoes, and it's like, Okay,

let's say we bring in another girl. And I was like, yeah, I guess that would be okay if Caitlin was into it. But then I'm like, well, what if we brought in another guy? I'd like, well, I wouldn't be okay with that, And so it's like, how how could I be How could I ever expect Klin to be a he was something that I wouldn't be okay with if I was here,

you know what I mean? Totally, It's it's unfair. But I'm wondering if you if you begged the question to Klin, I'm curious what her answer would be if you said, Kalin, would you rather bring in a guy? That you have to choose one? You have to either bring in a girl into this relationship or a guy into this relationship, which one you're choosing? For some reason, I feel like Caylin would choose a girl because I feel like that's what Ashley would choose to. Yeah, I think that that's

very true as well. I wonder why that is. Yeah, I was just about to say that same thing. I think that there's just like a weird stigma, a weirder stigma about guy on guy versus girl on girl. You know, girl and girl I think is more widely acceptable even today than guy on guy. Uh. And that just is something that I think is ever changing and evolving, and

even today is better than it was years ago. But I think that there's still a lot to overcome for that guy on guy stigma too, because I was actually I had this conversation, um at this point. It was probably a while ago, but for some reason I could

remember pretty freshly. It was like, let's say you start dating someone new, uh in your case, in my case would be we're dating a girl because we're heterosexual men, and you you come to find out that this girl at some point in college had you know, hooked up with a girlfriend of theirs. You know, you kind of you hear that story and you're like, oh, that's that's interesting, that's cool, Like that's you know, a fun experimental thing

for you to do. So that's fun, that's funny. How you articulated that you that's fun, that's cool, that's fun, that's cool, that's awesome. Yeah, I'm not trying to be I'm not trying to be too brolly on the podcast here, I guess, but yes, you're right, that's basically what I would be saying in my head. Uh. But then it

flipped that around. And I've had this conversation with girls before because while I know that I'm a heterosexual guy, I always make the argument that I'm never sure because I've never actually had a homosexual experience with another man. So that's like, how certain can I be because I've

never actually done it? Uh. And I always get the response from them saying like, well, if I was getting a guy and I found out that he hooked up with another guy in college or wherever, whenever, I would immediately like sever that relationship and cut ties with it. And I feel like whenever you you hear a girl talk about a guy with a uh, you know, a gay or by passed, it's always negatively. But whenever you hear a girl talk about a gay or by pass

it's always kind of looked that positively. Yeah, that is interesting. There has to be studies. We should actually do our research before next we can find out why that is, because that is an interesting topic. Why is it more socially acceptable when you find out you're a girl had hooked up with a girl in the past rather than a guy who hooked up with a guy in the past. Yeah, I mean, I don't know. I don't know. I have no idea why I've I've thought about it many times.

It's basically, it's it's constantly. I'm thinking about it right now. I thought about it last night. It's basically it's like tip for tat. You know, it's like, how is tip for tat anything but fair? That's basically as fair as it gets. But in this reality, it's, uh, it's looked at very different you from both sides. Yeah, I mean, I'm speaking from a heterosexual male perspective, so but like, I mean, I get why you'd want to hook up with a woman, so like for me, I guess. And

again this is speaking from a straight males perspective. To take this with a grain of salt, but like, women are just so beautiful. I can see why women other women would be like I I want to, I want to, I want to, I want to kiss another woman because you want to try it because they're just stunning creatures. Where guys were like Harry and like sweaty and stinky, but you know, I'm only of those three things you just said. I'm only stinky. I'm actually not very hairy

or sweaty. Ever, No, I'm Harry. I'm not that sweaty. I'm Harry. Though. Sometimes I've talked about this on the podcast before, something like my really good guy friends will like kiss each other sometimes, uh, like a lot of times, like on the lips, you know, just to be just to like show our affection for one another. I've seen Alex do that. Yeah, Alex Sean is like the type of guy who like grab you by the back ahead and yeah, and for some reason shove your tongue, his

tongue down your mouth. Alex and I definitely kiss. Usually it doesn't involve tongue. It's mostly just a little pecks. But uh, there was this one time I was dating

this girl. I think I've actually shared the story on this podcast before, But I was dating this girl, uh, and she was hanging out with me and Alex and we're all at like this music festival, and so we were all like partying and having fun, uh and like laughing and whatever, and Alex and I like pecked each other and she looked at me and looked at him and looks back at me, and it was like very very disgusted by it, and uh it kind of like

drove a legend to our relationship as well. And I was like, well, he's like one of my best friends. I'm just kissing him, just showing him how much I appreciate him, you know what. It's like I'm making out with him and like running off with him or anything that. Yeah, I'd be like, listen, if you kissed one of your girls on all lips as a peck, it would be fine.

I'd have no issues with it, exactly exactly. Uh So, I don't know, there's like this weird double standard in a weird way, but maybe one day we'll be able to all work past it. You know. That's what we're here for. That's why we do this podcast, get rid of those double standards. Baby, do you want know what's really funny actually is this might be t M I and you over sharing about my relationship. But I kissed

one of my got good guy friends this past weekend. Uh. He and I were we played golf together a lot, and we're like, we're pretty good friends, and uh, maybe I shouldn't share the story. Because we're in the height of a pandemic and I shouldn't be kissing anyone that's

not my girlfriend. But anyways, it was we were on double datos him and his girlfriend and me and Kaylin, of course, and we're like out and uh like he kissed me for some reason on the lips, and Calen looked over and saw it happened, and she like started laughing her ass off, and she was like, that was like the cutest thing I've ever seen. And she was like fully embracing and accepting of me kissing my guy friend. I was like, Oh, that's really great of you too

to be so on on board with that. That's how you know you found the one man. You know, see your your past ex girlfriends where it didn't work out. She wasn't the one. She she was judgmental towards you when you kissed your guy friends on the lips. And then here we go, fast forward. You're with Klin, you kiss one of your guy friends on the lips, and she thinks it's the cutest, most adorable out in the world. You have found the one. My friend Caitlyn wants me

kissing my guy friends. Isn't that isn't that the cutest thing ever? That's just quite adorable. I mean, I guess my dog, so it's not the same. But you know, she's Harry like a guy. Yeah, I mean I guess Pappy all the time too. He's a Harry guy too. Happy. How is Pappy without his teeth? Oh? Man, he's great, he's happy. Actually, we were out at the beach the other day and we were gone from the house for like five hours, and we got back and there was poop in the bathroom, p in the living room, p

on the bed. So this dog literally jumped off the bed, pooped in the bathroom, jumped back on the bed to pee, and then jumped off the bed again just to like, we think that since he's so used to having us around seven since we were gone for like five hours. He was like, where the hell is everyone? I'm gonna I'm gonna make them never do this again. What the hell is going on? This is ridiculous. It's been thirty minutes.

I'm pissing it all over this place. Yeah, so he's he's great, but that was not that was not a cool moment. All right, Well, it's gonna do it for this week's episode of Help by Second Dating. Um, Jared, is there anything us that you want to add before we get out of here? I mean, I can talk about our dogs all day long. But you know, Pappy is just awesome. I saw I saw the picture of like him and like a baby. What are those things called that Calin was carrying him around in? Uh, he's

got like a dog backpack. Yeah, he's like a dog backpack. Anyway, let's let's talk about next week. Let's just talk about our dogs all week. It's talk about dogs all week. Weird ones of pandemics over, like he said, because Pappy so used to being around you guys seven and you just left them alone for a few hours and then he was like not to This is not how it works. You're supposed to be home all the time. Full on rebellmade it was absolutely insane. It was like walking into

like a murder scene. Oh Pappy, you know, when you gotta go, you gotta go. And Pappy's an old man, so he probably can't hold it as well as they used to. Poor guy. That's fair. Um, all right, well, big thank you to the Fergi Twins. Be sure to check in on the podcast What a Girl Wants on Thursday.

It's gonna be I don't know if it's gonna say help I Suck at dating, what a Girl Wants or what a Girl Wants, But we'll see on Thursdays when it comes out with Emily and Haley Ferguson on the iHeart Radio app or wherever you get your podcasts checked so you can go straight to the help us Dating Yeah podcast feed, and you will see on Thursday What a Girl Wants. A girl Okay makes you happy? Said, it's me little going on, yeah, uh yeah, be sure

to check them out. They're gonna be great. I'm excited to listen to everything they have to say as well. It's just the girls, no guys. So that's like the that's the what a Girl Wants segment that we're going to try and do for the next few weeks and see, you know, see just how enlightening it really is. And and we're expecting big things. So also we like, like we mentioned earlier, we have a live show coming up

on the eighteenth of August. It's a couple's Day. Uh So, if you're single and you need some people to hang out with, Jared and I got you tickets or ten dollars, but if you spend twenty five you get a free beanie uh suck army beanie with the ticket purchase. Head over to high said dot ticks or dot com. That's h I S A D dot t I x R dot com and big thank you to Chelsea Peretti. Be sure to check out her movie Spinster on v O, D E and digital streaming platforms. Thank you guys for

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