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Help We Suck At Being Newlyweds with Dean Hungler, Kaylen Miller Keys, and Jared Haven.

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Hey everybody, welcome to an all new episode of Help We Suck At Being Newlyweds. I am Jared Haven. I am not joined by Dean Ungler and Kaylan Miller Keys. Better, well, they're now Dean and Kaylen Bell, but they're Dean and Kalen Bell. Okay, they walked the jingle Ball red carpet like that.

Okay, that's very cute.

That's official.

Yeah, very sweet. So this is Ashley Ikenetti, not officially Haven, not a newlywed either. To my co host and husband today, we are just filling in because we do the two newlyweds on the podcast. They are on their honeymoon appropriately, so we did spend time with them this weekend. We were at the Bachelor mansion with them with Dawson, and Dawson was the baby bachelor. Yes, that was like the highlight of our time there. So he got to like walk around the and carry a rose and he was

I felt like he was the biggest celebrity there.

Oh, Jared, that's very rude. Lance Bass was there.

No, I just meant in terms of everybody wanted to say.

Oh, okay, so he was the one that was.

Lance is more of a celebrity than Dawson. I just meant I was being funny. Okay, everybody wanted to see Dawson. Dawson.

Yeah, he was the one that was.

How could you know?

Yeah, he's so cute, he's the best.

So we were at the mansion. That was really fun. Dean and Kalin are on their honeymoon right now, So you got the two of us for the next thirty minutes or so however long this podcast is. Once we insert ads and all that good stuff. Okay, thank you for listening. By the way, you're paying.

Bills, Yeah, thanks, because our electric bill is going to be higher this month because of what Jared did on the outside. Now listen, Jared loves like plastic and blow up Christmas decorations like which would I don't know which, which would like, by a lot of people's standards, be considered like tacky Christmas decorations.

I think it's just considered tacky in general.

Oh okay, so you don't think it's offensive if I say, that's SACKI.

No, you just lean into it.

But your dad wouldn't. I don't think your dad thinks it's stacky.

My dad, who I love very much, I would never confuse for any type of decorator, you know what I mean.

Yeah, so he thinks it looks genuinely nice, which, like, honestly, what you've put together outside is genuinely very adorning.

My dad's look my dad's decorations do genuinely look nice.

Yeah, it's not like falling down and like it's never.

Chevy Chase style.

Chevy Chase style wasn't like that corny. It was over. It was outrageous.

He had and fifty lights. Yeah, I know if I did that to this house, you'd lose your mind.

Yeah, but that's like what ends up on like Good Morning America. Like that's like the like Instate of Beyond. But I wouldn't call that tacky. I would call that outrageous. Taki to me is plastic and blow up, which we do have so much out in our front lawn right now. Even you said you don't like blow we have two. We have a Grinch blow up and a Frosty blowout.

It's because they won. The Grinch was at Lows or Home Deepot wherever we bought it. But I just really loved the Grinch and I wanted something Grinch and that was the only thing they had Grinch, And then the second one was Frosty.

No, it was last year. We said it would be funny if you got to blow up Grinch because it was the Grinch like out well out here's the word outrageous. But it was like, if they had I'd rather have that Packe decor you could have. But anyway, again, the way he did it, it looks really great. And because we have a kid in the house. You know, if we didn't have a kid in the house, I don't know if you'd be able to get away with it.

No, it's kind of like going to Disney without kids. Even though I would, I would decorate the house without kids. I have tastefully. Yeah, I can't remember what I did. I mean I definitely decorated with you know when I lived with Crystal, but I get mostly interior outside was just little things.

Yeah. See, I didn't let Jared do the interior of our house this year because he wants to fill it with that kind of decor. But inside and I'm like, no, no, no, no, we do be like home Goods Michael's decor around here. Yeah, so that was the deal. I said, I don't touch the inside, but you can have the entire outside. And he ran with it and that was and it's fine.

Is it fun?

Yeah? These No, it's honestly, it looks so good. It really does that. I wish that we have more people see it. I'm kind of bummed out that you put so much effort into it and it looks so good, but nobody gets to see it because we're on a could to sad guys. Yeah, so only our neighbors see it, Like there's legit, like three families.

That see it. No, I mean I did it for myself.

No, but also it's sad because like you come home to it, but you don't even get to see it much because it's outside and you don't like see the outside that much.

Yeah, it's still nice. So any time I go out and take the garbage out, I'm like, oh, that's right, I did this. There's a sense of accomplishment.

Okay, it does look really good. It does look really good, and I'm proud of you. And it's not a tackies, I thought, because okay, just one more quick story. Last year, Jared's dad went to some like this old lady was moving out of her house and into a nursing home.

And she was doing her tragic story.

She was cleaning out her house. And your dad went there and he found so many plastic like North Pole polls, and he loaded up or wasn't nutcrackers.

She probably had about forty pieces of Christmas plastic outdoor decoration, yes out Oh yeah, most of them were like broken. My dad was like, oh, easy fixed you just like dad, it's not worth it.

Just you know, it's very adorable that you and your dad. It's so you know whatever, all that stuff came with Fred and then some of it's in their lawn and

Yeah, it's great.

Yeah. Right now I'm looking at him. Although he's washed his face three times, he still has green on his head.

Just looking at that.

He was the Grinch in an instagram real we put together.

The problem is it's not really coming out of my beard and my neck.

Yeah, your neck you need to get I told you, babe, you need to use cleansing oil. You need to use my cleansing bott is the only way you're going to get rid of this.

That's annoying on your eyelids too, It's all over the place.

Yeah.

I dressed up as the Grinch in promotion of the Twenty five Days of Christmas, which you should be watching right now on free Form. It's amazing and it's that time of year and it just brings a little tinkle to your heart.

So on our rundown here, our next question, besides decorating the house, is do we miss being able to celebrate the holidays? The two of us absolutely not. None of you ever did that. I mean I always did it with family, but like we're doing it at Rhode Island again this year, and I know that like people on this podcast here is like Actually and Jared and their Rhode Island versus Virginia debate constantly again like are we going to regret not going to Virginia?

Why would you say that?

I just get this vibe that we might.

I don't know if we're going to regret it, And.

It's just because I don't know. You know, we are very excited about Christmas this year in general, it's far more thrilling than it's been for years and years because Dawson understands Chris. He gets Christmas. I really think that he like understands like there's some sort of celebratory thing happening, and he knows that Santa says, well, he says, he says ho ho, But then he really what else is he?

Like?

He loves his Christmas books.

He just loves colors. Well yeah, but like so when he sees the presence or the lights on the tree, he gets very excited. And you know, he when he goes out in the front and there's the reindeer, he likes that he pets the reindeer.

Yeah, sot him this two hundred dollars reindeer from Home Depot because he was hugging it in the store, like he wouldn't stop hugging it. They're like, all right at it to the guard.

And then he watched Santa Claus's Coming to Town a couple of weeks ago. He enjoyed that.

He seems to like the Santa Claus. He likes really too elf right now.

Now, not into elf, Hill, get into elf. He watched a decent amount of the Jim Carrey Grinch, which was very exciting. Okay, that's good, that's very good, very good for me.

Jared's very big on that. If you guys didn't know, huge on the Grinch.

Huge Grinch guy. Well, I described grew up with it.

The word Grinch come has just come up so much in the past eight minutes.

But I know that's okay, It's Christmas, you know.

Yeah, I don't know. The Grinch just never did it for me, Like the Grinch does means nothing nostalgic play to me. But I'm happy that Jared has his Christmas character because I'm like, what's my Christmas character? I don't have, like I'm not married to one. I mean, I know my favorite movies, but.

I'm married to a bunch of them.

Frosty, I do love Rosty. That's nostalgic to me. No, no, no, no, no, no.

FROs, Frosted Tragic. Yeah, all the Christmas movies, Christmas Story, Christmas Vacation, Elf, How the Grinch Still Christmas? I still remember the poster that came out the year prior promoting how the Grinch Still Christmas, And it said Jim Carrey as the Grinch, and then it was him dangling a ball, a christ ball with his fingertips.

Do you know why I'm ruined? Like the Grinch didn't do anything for me? I think no. So do you know when you're little and your mom's opinion on movies would like kind of sway your opinion. Yeah, of course, you know, like when you when you leave the movie and your mom would be like, oh, I thought this about it. My mom didn't really like the Grinch. So then like after that, I was like, oh, I guess I don't really like the Grinch, and like I'm never

Well that's sad.

I know. I'm sorry.

One person's opinion swayed you.

Your mom's opinion means a lot when you're twelve point all right anyway, So no, we don't miss We don't miss the holidays, just the two of us, because Christmas is for kids to a certain point, like all your Christmas magic, I think all the feelings that you have Christmas all or the origin of all of that is when you were a kid.

Yeah, I agree.

So like now it's fun because we get to live through him and like I know, he's gonna get really excited for some of his gifts, and.

It's just fun because he is the center of the family right now because he's the you know, only grandchild on your side, and then of course it's him and Nora on my side, so the grandkids are definitely at the center. Yeah, And that's what it's all about, just like getting it for the kids and making him laugh and believe in Santa and because Santa is real obviously. So are you sad that I know? We talked about it. So you think that we'll both be sad for not

Yeah, I know, so that's gonna make it much better.

We stilla to figure out what I have no idea.

We'll discuss that in private.

Yes, we will discuss that in private, even though we're on open book. We can discuss it on the podcast if we wanted to. And then another question, what are some things you do to prioritize each other during the holidays while having a toddler? Nothing?

I know, we're really bad guys. I never thought we would be that couple. I know. I can't believe for that couple, I guess it's most able.

Yeah, these most people. It's just so exhausting between work.

Jarry definitely doesn't want to go out like ever when like he'd rather sit on the couch.

No, I like to go out. It's just and as much as I don't enjoy going out to dinner with Dawson because I just feel know.

That what we did the other night was nice. Wasn't the other night? It was probably a month ago. Now we went around the corner to a restaurant that we haven't been to live in for a year and a half, and like, this place is like a quarter of a mile away. It was really nice and we sat at the bar and then we had dinner and it was cozy, and like, I guess, like that's what we just need

And I think we communicate a lot.

Well, yeah, all day long. Tired of me, tired of you? No, yeah, you guys have been insecure this week because I fellow, Jared's tired.

Of me so ridiculous. I don't think it's ridiculousus.

I want to know other other girls experience this, but they think that like they've nagged their husband too much and like it's like, oh I've it's happened. I've crossed the line. He wants to be done with me, stop nagging me. Well, there's a lot of things for you to do, right.

I know there's many many you haven't.

Even attended to the list.

It's because I've been non stop working. I know, I wish. But we did decide that we weren't going to do for each other kids. But like, also, are you really not going to because I really won't.

But then like one of us is going to be pissed because one of us is going to do it.

Would you really even be mad?

Would I be mad at you.

Hypothetically say you got me something I didn't get you anything? After we talked about not getting each other to anything.

Probably probably wouldn't really care exactly. I really probably wouldn't because you guys, I don't want any more stuff. There's so much stuff in the house, and like the things that I would normally get you, you know, like pop culture things with like your favorite movie. You have so much to Brady Post. Now I can't fill your room your man cave with anything more. So I think we're done.

We're done for life, and you're not buying me anything else.

This is a great question for this podcast, how do you guys feel about giving gift cards to spouses, because we have done it before and I appreciate it, but it's also a little strange because it's like, oh, okay, well that's our money, and then all you're doing is giving me our money in a different form I.

Think of money. I think two things. One, if you're in a relationship, and some people have separate bank accounts, so in.

That case it makes sense. In our case it doesn't. It doesn't, but I still like it because of what you did last year because.

To me, it's not Also, let's put in context the gift card. I'm not getting her an Amazon gift card.

Okay, he got a SPA gift cards.

Yeah, Spa gift cards to the SPA and enjoy. And because that's what I know you want, especially, I'll pay for Like, I'll get you a gift of I don't know, two hundred dollars or two hundred fifty dollars to the SPA so you can bring Lauren.

Well, you're also very sweet because he usually gives me like two fifty to three hundred for it because I want you to, which is like really sweet because he wants me to take Lauren, but I'm like Jared, the spot does not need to be a two person activity. I would rather give myself two facials, two massages, or like do like the ninety minute. Yeah do that then, yeah, I'd rather do that, but take I never wanted to go by your You're very sweet. I am totally fine

There we go.

Yeah, so this is I would love to know the feedback on that, like do you think it's what do you think about giving gift cards to spouses? And I prefer it because it's an experienced thing and I think it's easier to spend money on experiences.

Depends on the gift card. Let's not give each other gift cards to target.

Okay, yeah, that would be you're right, you're right.

Then we're buying groceries for each other for it. But if it's for specific.

Moments, it's for a moment and not for groceries or even like, yeah, parents, if you gave a gift card to a restaurant that she would like.

If I give you a gift card to a restaurant.

You no, see that's weird. That's weird to me.

Yeah, but it's more of like, hey, I got a gift card to this restaurant, so we can like, now we have to go because.

You know what I'd rather you do, just take me there.

Yeah, but maybe it could be like, hey, here's a seventy dollars gift card and we're going on Thursday night, So maybe the gift card to the restaurant has to be playing with a date.

No. I think this is where it gets a little strange. I think you don't need to do that. You're just gonna we're just gonna pay the bill.

Yeah, but I also don't need to get you a gift card to the spot, but I do anyway.

No, because you're not coming with me there.

So that's like, but that's every time I give you, not for us, every time I give you a gift card to the spa. You always get a little annoyed at me anyway, because because you're always like, I want to go with you. I don't want to go with Lauren.

No. And then I say, Babe, I'm not gonna If you're not gonna come, then I'm just gonna go with myself.

So that's what I mean. You always want me to go it's not like I'm getting you.

Well because I think you need it, even though every time we go to the spot you like don't like it. It's very strange, guys, Jared not a fan of getting massages.

That's not sure. It's not that I'm not a fan, but I'm very indifferent about it.

Who is indifferent about massages? He leaves and he was like, Eh, that was okay.

I'm like, no, it's good, it's good. I don't. I mean, it's it's fine, it's nice, but like I also get antsy, So if I'm in there for too long, I'm just like, all right, i gotta do something.

He would like a thirty minute massage, which me would give me anxiety because I'd be like, it's almost, son, it's almost, it's amos. Like the second I would want like we got twenty nine more seconds, twenty nine more minutes, thirty seconds.

Yeah, I also want like a deep tissue like I also just don't. I mean, obviously getting rubbed is a great feeling, but I want.

To last time and it wasn't even deep enough for you. You need a sports massage. She wants to feel pain, Guys, I want to feel stretched out I want to feel light. I found there's a place called Stretch Lab. I was like, I should get Jared of an appointment. There a gift card? Yeah not yeah, yeah.

Why don't just make me appointment? Said to get me a gift card the same as the restaurant.

I could get you a No, because the restaurant we're going together to the Stretch Lab. You're going by yourself. Yeah, it's a you time, it's on us.

It's a me time. Yeah, it's me time.

But then you've also like booked what you did last year was great where you booked the flight to my to my family. Oh yeah yeah, and then we did book a reservation at a very fancy restaurant. Why we go the whole family? You did. You didn't pay for it, but you book the reservation. And then I remember it ended up being on like a playoff game. It was like one of the one of our teams who had a playoff game.

I think it was the Giants Vikings.

Yeah, that's right, and then we never end up going.

Well the Giants were playing, I'm not gonna know it was, that's right, because there was a Saturday night and like that sucks.

Yeah, should we talk about some dating hot topics. They're not that hot to me. I mean, I know what they are. I'm assuming, Okay, one is hot and that one is not that hot. Okay, So let's talk about Taylor. She was named People's Time Time magazines People are some of their big surprise.

There person of course, she's personally who would even be in conversation.

And no one? Okay, so she she gets that, she doesn't she doesn't, you know, she doesn't talk a lot, so she doesn't talk a lot to the public.

She did about Kim k.

Yeah, I know, I'm not really I don't like it. It's like, let this die, Okay, Like I am so over the fact that this is still living.

Who were you? Whose side were you on initially? Because you're such a Kardashian fan, but you're still such a Tailor fan.

Yeah, it's hard. It's hard.

What do you think was in the wrong.

Now that we know more like Kim?

But I also it feels like I don't know about.

It, Okay, but obviously you're such a kind of but kind of like I almost I feel actually more like I know the Kardashians.

It was Kim and Kanye at the time, Yeah.

Yeah, that's why I'm like, can we just separate this. She was under the spell of Kanye, and like, Kanye is such a Kanye So anyway, Yeah, that that's brought up again. And the thing is it really wow, Like it really wounded her.

I think traumatic time in her life. Yeah.

I think that like she needed a little bit more perspective on it, because like there were so many people that were going to choose her aunt over Kim and or Kanye, and in the case like mine, I was never going to let that ruin my fandom for either of them, you know what I mean. And Taylor really thought it was like the end of her career. That's what she says in the Time article that she really felt it could be like the end.

But I remember when it came out, I felt listening to the phone call, it was not salacious at all. Well here's I don't remember the context, but I remember hearing about it.

Yeah, Kim Taylor, and then she proved the lyrics. Okay, that's what Kim wanted to get across, is that, remember how Yeah, but I'm Taylor was like, oh my gosh, She's sang a song about me being a bitch. And blah blah blah, and then she was like, oh, like I'm like the victim here and then and then Kim was like, you're no victim. You approved of this, don't switch the narrative up it release the video.

But even the doesn't if I remember correctly, it doesn't really.

It's not that bad. It's like not that it's like, okay, she doesn't sound like super enthusiastic, like I'm so excited for you to say this about me, like she seems president.

But like, yes, it also seemed like Kim and Conye weren't there like completely honest with exactly how he was going to say it in the song.

Well, that's what Taylor argues now is that she goes, I didn't approve I don't remember the lyric now, saying it doesn't even matter these days, but like I remember he says like, oh, I think Taylor's I could have sex with Taylor or something like that bitch still that I made that bitch famous. Yeah, and then she has had She claims that it's the problem with him calling her a bitch. Yeah, that's what she didn't like, and

Much Tim Taylor on that one. Yeah, sorry, Kim. I love Kim love the Kardashians respect him, but it feels like it feels like they.

Were But you know what I really wanted from this time article. Now we're just really going off and not talking about relationships, but.

On a relationship, we could talk about it.

I really wish the two of them could hash it out. I understand, and she's definitely waiting for an apology from Kim, and Kim is probably like we're the two ma highest powered women in the entire world, like I, you know, like they just don't really need each other. But for me, what I was dreaming of is not a rehashing of this argument, but for like Taylor to appear in a Skims ad and like that to be like the look, we're good.

First of all, Taylor will never do that. Why not, If anything.

Taylor's leotards on stage are could practically Lady Skims.

My point being is that Taylor's unless Kim pays her an obscene amount of money more than the Capital One deal, way more to wear Skims. I mean, it's such promote, it's such great promotion, So why would Taylor promote him?

She won't, and we'd have to have to be a trade, just like what we're like Dance showed up to her premiere and then vice versa.

Who do you think would benefit more from a peaceful coming together, Taylor or Kim?

Would probably Kim because yeah, probably Kim, because Taylor's fans like for people who are like me and like very big fans of both, and like I'm neutral and I'm worth of them either way. I would think that people who are just fans of Taylor or like die hards Kim because of it. But if she showed Kim grace or like, you know, apologies, then that those fans would be like, oh okay, like I can start to like him again. But the vice versus the advice versa I done.

I would agree. I think the diehards of Taylor hate Kim because they're loyal to Taylor. But I think the diehards of Kim.

Yeah, like we're still down either life. Probably the situation because Taylor is more of the right. Yeah, probably, So I would agree. Not that Kim Kardashian needs anybody by any stretch of the imagination, but when you're talking about two ultimate powerhouses like Taylor Swift to k Kardashian. If one could benefit more than the other, I think Kim

That deal must have been so long in the making.

The fans were like, oh my god, betrail you know, friend betrayal. But it's like, Okay, I'm sure Taylor's over it. But apparently Taylor's not over it. Why do you think that, because she's talking about it still in the time.

Oh, but she doesn't care about Britney doing it Skim not obviously not a way, okay, obviously the only way it would be. Okay, Taylor approached Brittany, Mahomes and Patrick because he did the branch.

Can you not do it?

And I will pay you whatever she paid you for you not to do it, because that's the only fair thing. Yeah, and what and I doubt Taylor even cares.

Okay, very interesting stuff, But that was all in leading to the fact that Taylor reveals in this Time article that that game that she went to the first one to support Travis, was not their first date, as some people thought. She goes, we would never be so crazy as to hard launch at a game. Of course, who thought this. I think in the moment some people did think that she was like, oh.

It was their first date.

Yeah, because people were like, oh, maybe he invited her to the game and she's just going to show up and like be like, oh, this is fun.

That's not a date.

They didn't even talk to each other. Yeah, but it was like a first like exchange of life experience.

I don't know, Well, Taylor shows as much more than to do a first public appears.

That's what she says. That's her answer, and she said, okay, so the I was it's not super clear, but she said he was what is this word metal as hell?

Hell?

Yeah, So she goes, this all started when Travis very adorably put me on Blast on his podcast, which I thought was metal as hell.

I'm assuming metal is like badass?

Yeah, yeah, badass? So this started. So it all started when Travis don't bring me on Blasts on Focus and I think what he she means by that is when he was like, I made her a bracelet with my number on it, and I wanted to give it to her backstage at the Kansas City show, but I didn't get a chance to meet her. I think that's what she's referring to. So then after that, she said, we

She don't know.

I need. I need those details. I need the details of Like what made you think I I'm interested in this guy who wanted to give me a bracelet.

I don't know if I necessarily believe that as well. Why because it's such good promotion for their podcast New Heights that she's like randomly dropping the name of in this article.

He didn't say the name, she just said the podcast.

Yeah, but of course she's referencing it. I don't know, It's.

Just that's how they met.

That's how this whole thing started. Seems a little fishy. I don't know, But the point is what I really need from this moving forward, to wrap up this segment is I need the can say a chief synomic the Super Bowls.

You guys, he's there encroaching on like Patriots territory if they have three wins by Patrick Mahomes's age of twenty eight.

The point is is that obviously Tom Brady is the goat, he's won seven Super Bowls, but Mahomes is incredible. He's already won two. So if he wins.

Three by the age of twenty, it's just like getting it's getting. It's started to get a little at a young age, like, but all he really needs is within his thirty to forty decades, been another three or four.

Which is very doable if you win three early on. Yeah, and also, just listen, I don't care what Taylor called me in this Brad or chat or whatever.

I don't like that.

I don't like that, I don't like that other Okay, just listen Taylor, just because it's not a Brad or a Chad thing. If I just don't want to it's it's it's too much, Okay, it's too.

Much context Jared. So in this time article, she also says, sorry, I'm just there to support Travis. I don't even realize how much screen time I'm getting. I'm sorry if I'm annoying any dad's brads or chads, and I'm like, let's not be little men like this, and it's and it's not that bad at me, you know what I mean.

It's not Taylor's fault. I'm not blaming Taylor. I'm blaming the NFL. But also I can't blame the NFL either, because it's a business tactic and I understand that she's bringing in viewership that would otherwise never watch an NFL game. It's just I just can't. If it's fine, whatever, go to the games, have funs for your boyfriend, great, good, wonderful. If the Chiefs make the Super Bowl, oh my god,

Outrageous. You know, it would happen every day. I should do if they were smart, But Taylor would never go along with it. Is that they have like some stream on Amazon Prime, on ESPN or something where it's the tailor stream, which she'd never allow. But that way everybody can just tune into that, and I would be so curious to know as how many millions people have that one streaming in the background as well.

Whoever's got the Super Bowl this year? This year's CBS, Fox or would never allow that to happen. Yeah, like you watch our our program. If you want to.

See CBS Plus or whatever the heck, they can put it on that.

The streaming service.

Yeah all right, okay, okay, no, no, no, we have one more because I already said that we have a hot hot topic.

Oh I thought that was the HOTTI.

No, So while we're doing our iheard things this weekend alongside us, even though we didn't chat with them with Amy Robot, TJ. Homes the GMA, the GMA host, you didn't see them. They were like sit next okay, yeah, of course. So, like you know, Jared and I never know what to do. And I think this applies to a lot of people if they see celebrities out and about. If you're not a real fan of someone, you just like, you know, you need to like go up and say anything.

Yeahs obviously very cool being in the presence.

But the same time, I have nothing to say.

You know, yeah, I heard about the scandal.

You said maybe watch you guys sometimes Good morning America.

But whatever, hope all as well.

So they're around, but we didn't interact with them. And now did you see this? You haven't seen this, and listen to me. This is what she and I Twain and her husband Lane, my god, Mutt Lane did. Okay, they just swapped discusses. So if you know that Amy and TJ they were having their I know you know that, right, I've heard. Okay, So then they fired them from GMA, which,

But it was in the workplace.

Well I suppose it was. They didn't get caught in the workplace. They got caught in vacation. That's where it became.

But they worked together. Yeah, it's a gray area.

To get fired.

It's tough because I don't know what the code of conduct is. So because it's like, is it bad to fragnize with other employees?

And if so, I guess it was in the contract that you can fratnize. I guess, Like then I guess they have.

I mean, of course, my first instincts like it shouldn't have been fired for that. But I'm also thinking about it. I'm like, I'm sure there's gray airs that we are all all right.

This is not why I want to discuss though, anywayntinue. But now that they're together officially as a couple. They made their grand entrance as an official romantic couple, this we get you now. Right after that, it's been found out that their spouses.

Are getting each other. Yes, they're obviously doing it on purpose, Yeah.

Of course. Or what if maybe they really like each other how they meet. I'm assuming they met through bonding, like trauma bonding.

Who would ever reach out and be like, hey, I heard your I would so you're telling me that, let's not say me because that's weird. In a previous relationship, if the guide cheated on you, you'd reach out to that guy's significant other and be like, oh, it sucks.

Together, we're both cheated on.

That's weird. Do you think so, yes, that's weird.

Oh no, I'm not completely sure.

Would you just rely on your friends and your family and people that you know instead of like relying on a stranger.

It's not a really stranger, it's somebody who's oh, it's very much a strang in the exact same boat as you though.

But there are many people who've been cheated on. I don't know if that's weird to me.

Yeah, but a lot of times we have you've been cheated on. It isn't like two commuted spouse Like, it's not you know, two commune spouses. Okay, Well, so that's what happened with Shania Twain and her husband. She ended up marrying or so hit her husband to get this. Well, Shania Twain's even tragic, more tragic her husband she did on her with her best friend. It's like reality show, and then she ended up marrying the best friend's husband

This is weird.

Isn't that crazy?

That's weird.

Okay, that's what happens.

Damn dramatic.

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