Dance Down the Aisle

Is that right? Yes, I'm engaged. Let's spend the next two hours talking about this engagement. All right, let's do it. What you want to know? Okay? Well, first of all, off the last Jared said, congratulations, thank you. Yeah. I feel like we were talking about the possibility of me getting engaged last time I was on here. That's what I was gonna say. I feel like we kind of knew it was a long time coming. Yeah, you're glowing. You look so happy. Thank you. I'm very happy. We're

very excited. Um. Now we're just starting in the process of wedding planning, which is expensive. Well, so tell us about the engagement a little it. Yeah, so we got engaged in December December, I think like five. I already don't remember the day. I know really not have been like two months. I know I need to have it like written on my hand. Um so yeah, December. I

think it was fifth or sick something like that. But um, he surprised me by doing it kind of in a photo shoot, so he I'm very hard to surprise because I'm the one that plans everything that we do. Um, So we had to get tricky with it. So we had a photographer reached out that we worked with before for like other photo things, and she and I are good friends, and she reached out about doing like a cute Christmas themed photo shoot and I was like, yeah,

that's totally cute. I just had to run it by Nick, Like he's not the biggest photo shoot fan. Um so I had to like run by this plan with him. So I got to pick out like where the photo shoot was, what we were wearing, what it was gonna look like, all this stuff and that the last minute, the photographer had texted me and was like, hey, I'm really good idea, Like why don't we write love letters. Why don't you guys both write love letters to each other and we can read them on camera. I've seen

people do this. It makes for like a really cute photo shoot. Um. And then you guys can like exchange them at the shoot. And I was like, well, that's super cute. But again, I have to run this by neck because that sounds like something you might not want to do. UM. So he's a really good liar, I learned from our engagement because I would run it by him and be like, oh, that's I have to do?

What Like, what do I have to do? Like he would just act like he didn't really want to do it when and in fact it was actually his idea. So I thought like, it could be happening maybe at this photo shoot, because I thought that would be super cute. Um. And I had a pros and like cons list in my mind of the reasons why it could be happening and the reasons why it couldn't be happening. And by the time we were like on the way there, I was like, Okay, there's no way it could be happening.

Because every time I asked him or try to throw a curveball, he knew he had an answer for everything, um, like like what do you mean? Like, uh, for well, just even the fact that he was like lying about not wanting to do it. Um. Even my friend, my best friend had texted him as we were on the way there. It's not like they talked normally. UM, so he would he asked my brother and my friend besides my parents for my hand in marriage essentially. Um. So she was texting him back finally and I was like,

why is why is Casey texting you? And he was like, oh, oh, why is she? Oh you know what, I texted her about your gifts, So don't look at the text, um, because I was asking her like what I should get you for Christmas. So just like like right on the moment, knew how to lie about. And I was like, oh, yeah, that's a perfect excuse. Okay, yeah, I guess that's true. So things like that, um. And just the fact that the photographer was the one sending everything up when in

fact it was actually him. Um, even with the date that they picked, like originally we're going to do it one day and then we had to switch the date at the last second, and he had to like switch up all these details and the and those last like a few hours before we got engaged, so yeah, he was just really on top of it. And when we switched letters, so we read each other our letters. We switched letters at the last moment, so ah, he read mine first, which was way too long for what this

boy saw. If I knew I was getting engaged too or getting proposed to, I would have made a very short letter. Um. And then I read his letter, which was in this journal that we shared when we were doing long distance. It was really cute and basically I asked for my own hand in marriage. Um. Yeah. So I was like, I was like, you know what, that's kind of perfect. I asked myself, that's good. Um. So then he got on one knee at the end of like me leading that me reading that letter, and yeah,

was super it was very cute, super perfect. My my parents were on FaceTime because at the last second his parents walked up the stairs, um and saw us, like I saw him get on one knee, and my parents were on FaceTime, so they were a part of it too. So yeah, it was very Wow. What a great engagement. They did a good job. Yeah, and then we had like pictures and photos from it, so are videos from it,

so yeah, it was. It's perfect. You want to know what's so cool about this UM engagement for for me personally and selfishly, UM, is that, However, long ago, when you first co co hosted with us, there was a while ago. I remember you were talking about this guy that you just started dating and how much you liked him, and and then the next time we talked to you, you were like, yeah, you know, I'm gonna move to I think it was Ohio and we were like, wow,

that's really fast, and now here you are. However, long later, I know it's like, obviously, this this engagement came for all because of you guys, are not because of help. I stuck at dating. Selfishly, I want to believe that all of this was made possible because of help. I stuck a dating. I will agree. You guys have been at every each benchmark of our relationship. I've been on the episode. I feel like, so, yeah, you guys have

seen the full journey of it. So you help. It just feels like there's one engagement after another on this podcast, and it's either coincidential dating. So thanks to you guys, I am fixed. You know, that's what we're here for Yeah, you're doing something right. Um. So, now that you guys are planning the wedding, are you have any arguments about do you want a big wedding, small wedding? Have you always envisioned your wedding? Well? How does before you answer sitty?

How does this work? So you don't start planning your wedding the second after you get engaged. I mean, I know you've been engaged for two months now, but I mean, yeah, is that wrong with me to think? I mean, you technically don't, but then people immediately are asking to like, when's the wedding? Where is it? Yeah? What? What's? What are you wearing? What are you eating? Like all these things? So I mean, wait till you get married. The next

question is when you have a baby. You have a baby and you're like, when are you having another one? And you're lik and everyone shut the hell up. Yeah, And then you get really old and the like when are you gonna die? Already? When you die? Let's let's wrap this up. Okay, yeah, be done. Um, So you don't plan right away, but I mean you start getting excited. I think once you decide when you're getting married, it's going to determine when you should start planning. We don't.

We don't have a date until it's made, so we have a while. Um, but I've started to plan and it looks like it's going to take me a long time. UM. But you start having to like figure out where it's going to be, UM, if you're gonna have a planner, if you're gonna have a band, if you're traveling, where people are going to stay, like all that kind of stuff, And the most important thing is like the guest list, um,

because that determines how much everything costs. So we're working through that currently because that's very hard to figure out who's invited who's not. Why did you guys inside on um weather and our venue had that open? Like there wasn't a lot of options for two because of COVID, Like I think everyone pushed back into two. At one point. I was like there was an option for MAO And I was like, you know what, maybe like that I could pull that together and he was like are you dumb?

Like no, so yeah, don't you guys are marrying exactly, enjoy every aspect of being engaged, because once you're married, then people stop caring about you as much. You know, now you're just a married couple, so enjoy the engagement at the newly wed stage. It's fun, it's exciting. Yeah, I'm excited. It's super fun. And it's like fun to put together mood boards and you know, use my creativity hat. Um, but yeah, we have we have a good amount of time.

But I'm excited to like get things rolling. I gotta say, you were mentioning this just a minute before I cut you off. One of my biggest terrence I've ever wanted to have a wedding is um, the guest list. It's terrifying. It's the worst part, especially with having family, that you have to invite everyone's family and then that's like a hundred people. As it is, the family is fine. I don't like, I know a family like obligated to have an invite. It's like the friends, and it's not so

much like you're close friends. It's like the fringe friends where you're like, oh, we really like each other and we're friends, but like, do I like you? Like, are we good? In the friends? You're pretty come to my wedding? Yeah, deans that close close to a personal on this on this podcast. Uh, during my list that was that was a tough and I'm sure that that was totally stressful situation for you to be in, and especially now because

Sydney you're going to go through the same situation. You have bachelor friends that have probably dated other bachelor friends that you're both friends with, but you're like, uh, it's good called awkwardness, Like they're not on good terms. Do I invite them? Because I want you know, you know, I'm closer with one, so I want to make sure

they have the best time possible. But I'm pretty close with the other one that should probably be there, but it might ruin the other person's time without telling me, and it's just gonna be chaotic. Yeah right, But it's it's also so much fun because at the end of the day, don't let any of that drama phase you. It's your wedding. You're allowed to be selfish. That's the way Ashley and I thought about it, and just do what you want. While we're on the topic, keep giving

out some advice for Sydney. You know you've been engaged, tis, Yeah, what are some tips you have for for wedding planning or being engaged? For being engaged, maybe give her some tips and then maybe give her some things that she could pass on to Nick, because you only really know it through the guy's lens. I would say, if you're going to do a wedding, if you're going to say, hey, we're gonna invest some finances into this wedding some time

and effort, then go all the way. Don't have asset because I think one of the biggest things for ash and I was when we decided that we were going to do the wedding that you know, of course you have a budget, but within that budget, do everything you possibly can to make it the best day possible for yourself and for your guests even too. I always make

this use this example. Ashley and I talked to the band and said, these are the songs that we want you to play, and if you don't play these, then thank you so much for wanting to lay at our wedding, but we're going to find someone else, you know, because it was just more it was like we really wanted to create an experience. So my advice is, whatever you want to do, do it. Some people don't want to invest so much time. They want to just hire someone to take care of it and just enjoy the day

and not even think about it. M hm. We weren't that way, you know. So my advice would be, if you're going to do a wedding, you're really getting married once, knock on wood, So just go all in and do

whatever the hell you want to do. Don't be scared, don't be afraid of pissing someone off or you know, your your parents might your parents might be like, I kind of want it this way, and you're like, I understand that, and I respect that, but I wanted that way and this is my wedding and I love you and I want to be here, but let me just

be selfish. Yeah, I love that advice. Thank you. Are are you going to utilize your dancing abilities at all, like choreographing any kind of dances or anything that absolutely so, I'm I mean, Nick doesn't fully know this, Yeah, but there'll there will be a choreograph dance. Things will be happening, maybe even like outfits will be being changed the whole thing. Yeah, that's my plan. I can see you, um, and I mean, like, I don't even know why I'm going to say this.

I can see you wearing like Air Force ones with your wedding dress and absolutely killing it. I'll be so here for that. Yeah, what's the because you were an NBA dancer, correct. So I don't know why you know that Chicago Bulls theme song. It's serious. I think it's like dent Dent, Dent dent to day. You don't know there's anybody. Yeah, I was thinking like, yeah, your your bridesmaids could run down the aisle to that song. Me some ideas. It could be kind of fun. I'm not

gonna lie. We could take in a lot of different theme ways for sure. So you live in Cincinnati, now are you? Are you guys like Bengals fans? The super Bowl just happened. Was that the big thing in the city? Oh? Oh it was. It was definitely a big thing in the city. Um, that's cool. Yeah, it was awesome. I've never been around like such super fans like that before, so it was really interesting for me to see because I wasn't generally a super football fan necessarily before. But

I really appreciate the passion behind it. And I mean, all I have to watch with him. He's considered me now his good luck chime. Oun't know how I got that role because now I have to sit in front of the TV with him while he is screaming his head off. Um, don't you understand anything he says when he screams at the TV. No, it's he'll be like

jumping up and down, like off the ground. Like sometimes he's like like banging on the ground, running around the living room and like, what's what have we just watched? So I started to get it towards the end. But yeah, is he more attractive when he does that? Less attractive or it doesn't matter? Um, I don't know. It's I'm kind of medium with it. I like the passion. Um sometimes it's just a little allowed for me. But I mean the whole city is just they are so loyal,

which I really love. I mean even I was actually in l A for Super Bowl weekend, not for the super Bowl, just to go and there was a huge, like light up Whoday sign in the airport with like balloons all round it and like people posing in front of it. So it's just like very much their thing here.

Like even my yoga teacher was playing a Bengals playlist playlist for like the last month because they were continuing forward, and I was like, if I have to hear jock jams one more time during meditation, I'm going to freak out. But so it's just like a part of the culture here,

So I mean, I appreciate it. It's making me at least understand football more, which is a big step for me because I didn't really have any knowledge of it before and Cincinnati doesn't really have much root for professionally wise because they don't basketball or hockey anything, right, so it's mostly baseball and football that's right now. Baseball is

coming again, and I'm like the Reds. I think they are right, Cincinnati Red I didn't know baseball was every day basically, I didn't know they played that many games in a row. Yeah, it's way too long. Yeah. Like still, at least you're not dating Jimmy Fallon from Fever Pitch. Could that be? That would be pretty bad. Sometimes I I try to act like him because obviously have a Red Sox fan, and then Ashley just isn't enjoyed him much. But I digress. So we do have a lot to

get to with Sydney. We have some hot topics coming up, including Aaron Rodgers and Shaneley Woodley call it quits, But before we get into that. Let's take a quick break, all right, welcome back to help I suck at dating, like we tease. There's there's two things I want to get to. One this shaneley Woodley and Aaron Rodgers story, and then there's another one that I looked up on

a website called cracked dot com. Yeah, you heard me correctly, and it's twenty five bizarre statistics about relationship and sex. And I don't want to read some of these statistics to Sydney and Dean and get their reaction. But first and foremost, Aaron Rodgers and Shaneley Woodley call it quits. Sydney, do you know who these two people are? I know Sleen for what big little lies? And then I know he dated Jordan around dated He's his brother is Jordan Rodgers,

which was a Bachelor. So that's so funny. Usually it's the opposite. People are like, oh, Jordan, you're Aaron's brother. That's that's nice to hear be like, oh, Aaron is Jordan's brother. Yeah, I wonder, I wonder if you want to, I wonder if anyone approached Aaron Rodgers like during his time on the Bachelor and they're like Hey, I'm a big fan of your brother, like you because I'm really awesome. Sure, it was always the other way around. Um, that's that's

a bummer about Aaron Rodgers. He always He's got a pretty good dating track record. I think you want to know why I think they broke up though, It's because Aaron Rodgers is prepping a move to Denver, and uh, you know he doesn't want to be in the longestance relationship with someone. Yeah, but shaneley Woodley isn't Colorado like very progressive. I feel like real enjoy her time in Colorado? Pretty is Wait, why do you say it with a smirk. I'm confused. I'm being serious. I know I said it

with a smirk because it's a ridiculous statement. But I find out when I was thinking about where Rodgers could go in the NFL, I was thinking, well, where would shaneley Woodley want to be in Denver, Colorado? I was like, Okay, I think she could you there. For example, if he was like, hey, I want to go play um in I don't know, Houston, she might be like, ah, I think this relationship could be over. But Denver. I think

you can see that This is from experience. The reason I'm saying this is because I've had years of experience with Tom Brady and Giselle Bunching, where it's been like Tom needed to approve wherever he was gonna go with Giselle, and I'm pretty sure Giselle told him, you either retire or we're getting a divorce, which is why he retired. Because can we say about Tom Brady, he might come out of retirement, like he even said himself, he will assess it, you know, five months or however long it is.

He did not want to retire. He didn't want to play for Tampa anymore because he doesn't like Brasirians and he I think Giselle was like, listen, you're done, You're retiring. It's over. And I think in like he retired. Now in about four months, there's gonna be a lot to spec pulation about him going to San Francisco, and I think it could easily come out of our timement. But I digress. This is not about Tom. I've already talked about about because I've got questions for you. I've got

questions for you. Please, Okay, I'm an open book. Here we go, Okay, So hey, I didn't know that he didn't like Bruce arians that's surprising to me. Um and be. If you retire and you come out of retirement, are you at that point of free agent? No, he's technically

still side with Tampa. However, I think the conspiracy theory here is that he is retiring from Tampa and you know, Tampa will obviously move on make other plans at quarterback, and then in a couple of months, when Tampa already has another quarterback in his system, He's gonna say, hey, I want to come back and play. Tampa is already gonna at their next quarterback. Tom's gonna say I don't want to play from Tampa, and then you can trade me, and then they'll be suitors out there saying, like a

team it's one quarterback away. Sorry, I know, Hannas, like, are you freaking kiddi? Tom ready? Again? My point being is that when he comes out of retirement and Tampa says, okay, we're gonna trade you a team like Tennessee who's one quarterback away from winning a Super Bowl, or San Francisco who's a quarterback away Denver. Honestly, like, if Denver doesn't get Rodgers, Why wouldn't Brady want to go there? I

mean because it's cold. But you have seen Brady win in the first season in a new place, as he did with Tampa, So I can see where you're saying. It makes sense. He doesn't need that much warm up ramp up time in a new system because he's the smartest human in the history of existence, and he wants he wants to go to San Francisco. That's what it really comes down to. He's a huge ward to Niners fan. But we really should not be talking about this outcast.

I can talk about Tom and Gizell. I mean, that's pretty compelling stuff right there. But anyway, Aaron Rodgers, Shaney Woodley is over. I think this is probably gonna enhance Aaron Rodgers NFL career. I'm not gonna lie because I think, uh not to. I just think sometimes, especially later in life, um rightfully, so, a lot of these athletes, they you know,

they have other priorities. They have family, they have relationships, They're not as focused on on the sport anymore of the game because they're older and there's just different priorities. So I think now that he's single again, I think he'll probably just want to focus on the NFL and try to get one more Superbowl for retire. So if he does go to Denver, I think this is great

news for you. I would love that. Hey, before we get to your dating topics that you wanted to mention, UM, I want touch in this one real cookd you guys watch Euphoria at all? No, I've heard Zenda is like crazy good in it. You guys don't watch you for you It's the best show on television right now. I

watched the first two episodes. I heard the second season is really good, but I couldn't for the beginning of it watch it and not think about how they're like high schoolers and doing all those like very sexual things. So I had to move past that. So once I do, I'm gonna started because I hear it's amazing, right, you feel like because they're playing high schoolers and you see them naked, and so you feel like you're watching naked

high school. It's like watching that movie thirteen. That's how I felt kind of watching UM before at the beginning. But I'm going to give it a second chance once I know thir teenage or It's kind of like Babysitters Clubbish. I don't know about that, but okay, I mean I don't know. I've never seen that movie, but I kind

of understand the premise of it. Anyways, I was gonna say that two of the characters are confirmed dating, and I wanted to talk to you guys about that, but I guess if you have never seen the show, you wouldn't really care very much about it. So, um, Jared, we could. I'll go up stairs we cook and talk to Kalen about it. Yeah, Um, Jared, you can get to you can get to your topic conversation wherever you wanted to talk about. Sorry, my dogs are barking in

the background. Shocking. I know the dogs are freaking out. That never happens on this podcast. Well, I do want to get to an article that I found called entitled twenty five Bizarre Statistics about Relationship and Sex, because we talk about like tidbits and advice about dating and relationships, especially going into the new year. But I thought it'd be interesting to hear some statistics about just you know, this house is in constant state of chaos right now.

All right, So number twenty five. So after hearing music, apparently women are more attracted to men, Sydney, I want to get your take on this. So in a university Vienna study, women rated photos of men as more attractive, and we're up to about ten percent more likely to say they date the men if they heard just twenty five seconds of music earlier. Several types of music were tried, and apparently highly stimulating and complex music had the most

powerful effects. So, Sydney, do you think that would be true that you'd find someone more or less attractive if they either music was playing right before or during you met this person. I feel like that's a very interesting study to make because it could be different type of

people that you're looking at. And I don't know it's interesting how they tracked that, but I can see how that could maybe play into it, because if it's like a very romantic song, or if you're you know, when you listen to music for a while, you get in like certain moods, or you feel really good, or you feel maybe like very like open hearted um after certain like music jam sessions. So maybe they were just in that headspace looking at these photos and maybe romanticized the

photos based on the music. Maybe they thought of like, oh, this could be our music video. I don't know, so maybe there's like some subconscious things that happened there that led to that, so I could see how that could happen. I just feel like that's an interesting way to gather data. I think a thousand percent, Dan, what do you think. I'm gonna be totally honest with you. I was messaging our producer about euphoria and I didn't even hear a single thing you said. So and when in the title

you know bizarre statistics about relationship at sex. So apparently after hearing music, women are more attractive to men. There was a study done that said women rated photos of men is more attractive and we're up to about ten more likely to say they date that man if they heard just twenty five seconds of music earlier. So pretty much the study says that if you hear music, you find someone more or less attractive. Interesting. Interesting, Yeah, I

wonder why. And I think Cindy was talking about it to like what type of music are you listening to? But also like think about it, think about like your intimate moments you have with partners. A lot of times you're playing music or something. You know, maybe that's why you associate music with like some percent. I was sorry. I was just like thinking about times. I'm sure we've all been in situations where you're dating someone in your late teens early twenties and they have roommates and they

might you know, especially college door rooms. They share rooms, so you have to like ask to use the room for a while, and then you played music so it's not silent in there. Forgot about doing that. Oh yeah, I was. It was always a John Mayor playlist any time we had the room. Even even now like in your in your private lives, you can still like it's it's kind of a little uncomfortable if there's no like sound in the background, so you TV on the background.

Tom Cray highlights really gets me going, Oh man, So I was. I was also thinking based off the statistics, like all right, here's the story. So I was. I just did a workout prior to this podcast and running on the treadmill. I like listening to live music because for some reason it makes me work harder. But I was listening to a live version of Smooth by Rob Thomas and Santana, and I was thinking in my head,

what a sexy song that is? Like if I was if I were to sing a song to try to woo Ashley, it would be smooth if I was kissing, And then I was thinking, is that this, like, what's the sexiest song of all time? Because if there are music, if there are certain songs that women or men can hear that make the opposite sex or whatever gender they're attracted to more or less attractive, I wonder what song like from what would be the sexiest mine. I'm not

gonna lie. It might be smooth. Like if I saw a picture of a woman and smooth is playing, I'd probably find them sex here. Yeah, my crazy, I'm I'm I'm losing my mind. Nobody thinks this. Nobody. I think sometimes you listen to music and you can think like they make you they remind you of a person. So like if you're thinking of a song or certain lyrics of a song, like I remember Nick would send me like certain songs I hadn't heard, be like, oh, the song makes me think of you. So maybe there's like

that correlation too. So there's a lot of ways you can take this. Yeah, I can see how that works. I would think you're crazy. No, I mean you are crazy. I definitely agree with that. I think that there's like, isn't that basically what like R and B, Like it's a whole genre committed to like sexy sounding songs and stuff like that, And there's like sex shams on Spotify

and yeah, exactly, So I think Jared's your point. There's just like you get uh, you know, a little horny off of the smooth, which is fine, but there's a whole there's a whole sub sect of people out there that literally go on to Spotify and put on a sex playlist so well, according to Paste magazine, I don't know if we ever heard of that. The number one sexiest song of all time is you Guessed It? Let's Get It On by Marvin Kay? Is that overused? Though?

Now I feel like it would be a little cheesy almost now I wouldn't hear I'm like, yeah, let's get it on. You know, it might actually make the situation worse. Another crazy statistic, one three millennials said the first thing they do post coital you know what means? Yeah, that was the first time I ever heard that word, Like

post quota. What the hell is that? Anyway? One in three millennials say the first thing they do post coital is grab their phones, but twenty eight percent admitted they really want to check their phones during sex, with twelve percent saying they actually do check their phones during sex, which is crazy. How the hell do you get away with that? I will say, the only way I want to check my phone because I get nervous that I'm on like Instagram Live or I called my mom just

then or something. That's why I'm checking it, just to like make sure my life isn't ruined for a second. So that would be my intuition on it. But I don't think we should. Let's let's cuddle. Let's give it like one minute before we move on to our phones, maybe sixty seconds, just sixty seconds, and then we can check Instagram place perfect. We Cayl and I have been doing this thing well, so for while, we've been like waking up in the morning and rolling over and grabbing

our phones right away. We've been doing this thing where we're consciously on phoning ourselves so we'll wake up, uh, we tell each other we love each other, and then we read a book for thirty minutes every single morning. And we've been doing it for like a week now, and it's working really well. I think we need to start distancing ourselves. And I know people always have been saying this for a while, but we need to We need to create a gap between us and our phones.

And if you're grabbing your phone in the middle of sex because you're of any other reason other than you're worried on Instagram Live, I think you got an issue. Yeah. Um, So the next to six are I just clicked the wrong page. This one's actually for you, Sydney, So Marry You by Bruno Mars and Thinking out Loud by Edge Shearing are two are the two most popular wedding songs in the United States, according to Spotify. H I'm not no, don't worry. Um. Yeah, but I think that was like

maybe three years ago. Those were like the wedding songs to or like at least thinking at like Edge Shearing really had a moment there um at weddings. But yeah, I think we're getting to the place where it's now like satire almost because they're overplayed so much. You have those songs, you know, more powerful, they're beautiful. Have you have you put any thought into your wedding song yet? Not? Yeah? I just know there will be a dance whatever it is,

but like a dance with Nick where you choreograph it. Yeah, we're gonna make him lift me. We're gonna are you gonna do like dirty dancing? Time of your life. I mean I actually just got a flashback of trying that on the beach with Clay and it didn't go all right. I've tried that a lot in life, and I remember trying it out at a bar once on the street and I almost broke my neck. So maybe we won't

try that. There's no way that ended. Well, don't do that while you're drinking ever, anytime you start a story. I was on the sidewalk at a bar and I tried this dance move joy. Did you guys have a choreograph dance? Oh no, we just kind of we h you had a dance, but you didn't choreograph. I was gonna say we winged it. That would be correct. We want it you that's incorrect English correct. You're not asking

the right people. You know, we winged it. Yeah, you winged it, so yeah we have it doesn't matter what you say. We all know what you meant. So you know what the trick was was we had one move where I could twirl Ashley and like everybody started clapping. So we did that like four times, and every time we got aunt of applause, and we felt like we were professional dancers because you could read your audience, which is a very good thing to be able to do. But then by the fourth one, we were all like,

is he doing the spin move again? We've already seen that three times? All right, last last one and then we'll move on to an email. I want to ask you, guys, what you think the answer is, because this one's kind of funny. According to information collected by something called Lovely and Lovely app, what do you think the app verge duration of a sexual episode between American couples are so pretty much? How long do you think sex last in America?

Eight minutes? Oh, twelve minutes? I was gonna say, like three minutes, three minutes? We average? What are we defining as sex? Is that? Like? Is that U four play and stuff too? If that's the case, maybe, like, just be honest, I wish they had more information on here. That's all I got because four plays considered sex, I would say, but it's just if it's just fear penetration stuff, I would say how long it takes the guy. That's what my mind was doing for me. It's three hours.

I was gonna say, if four play doesn't count, I mean thirty eight seconds. Yeah, exactly, I want to say. I was gonna say, under twenty minutes is my guest? Oh yeah, well under twenty twelve twelve minutes apparently duration eight, I said. And then I correct myself and I said twelve, And then I said, like three other number, but I said twelve. That one somewhere were twelve was somewhere in there. All right, good job, Dan didn't get the gold sopper today.

Thank you. So let's uh, let's go ahead and wrap this episode up real quick. Uh, Sydney as always a pleasure having you as our guest co host. You're actually in luck, not you, Sydney, The listeners in luck because we have Sydney guests co hosting with us for our next episode. So thank you for joining us on this episode. Be sure to tune to the next one, where we might just suck a little bit less. Follow help by Suck at Dating on I Heart Radio or wherever you listen to podcast