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it's kind of interesting. It's a great thing. So last week I got a phone call on Thursday about my grandfather and he got rushed to the hospital. And you know, he's ninety, he's an old man. But the doctor said, listen, according to these numbers between his kidneys and his heart, twenty four hours. You know, if he makes it through the night, you know, you guys should get here. So obviously, like my aunt was flying in, everybody got there, and

it was just a sad, emotional day. He was, you know, every time he said bye to someone, every time we said bye, it's like are we saying goodbye forever? But so then throughout the weekend he made it, thank god.

And then Friday he was on some medication just to make him comfortable, and then Saturday he started becoming more a little bit more aware, and then Sunday he ended up peeing, which was a big step for him, and he had to breakfasts he was eating, so they started taking blood tests again and he's he's doing really well. I'm happy to report. So he's beating the odds. The doctors were in awe, which is always a great thing.

So it's way too early to call it a miracle, but you know, he's doing really well, especially considering I mean, like I said, literally, the doctor told my dad, listen, you know, twenty four hours if I'll be surprised if he makes it through the night. So how old is your grandpa? There'll be February. Dang, So he's a he's an old man. Now he's a young man. He's a young Yeah. I guess it defends he're asking all that's great, man, that's great news. I yeah. Yeah, we were all worried.

We'll not worried, but we were, you know, sending you our best. So yeah, I appreciate. Yeah, So things are good, dude. I am just swamped with the shop in an exciting way. So we're definitely opening up in like two weeks um. We're Our goal date is November twenty. I'm putting it out in the universe to make sure it happens. And it's exciting. It's coming along really well. It's so nice inside. We just had a mural gun and it has audrey

Coffeehouse on there. I told the girl who did her name is Abby, and I said, listen, Abby, what I want is a combination of Bachelor Coffee, Rhode Island and Audrey's. And she's like, all right, cool, I think I can do that. And she made this beautiful mural with roses and an anchor for Rhode Island and a coffee mug, and of course Audrey's displayed throughout the middle of it.

And so that just got finished and so we're kind of organizing all the tables and chairs and all the wall are around that because it's such a big mural and it's it's it's cool, man, it's fun. Like it's it's definitely you know, raining every ounce of me, including my bank account, but it's been worth it every step of the way this far. So remember twenties. It looks like Abby is like a local muralist or something like that, like an artist. Yeah, Abbe Coachs is your name? Um,

but yeah, she actually, so we reached out. Ashley has been doing a great job posting on Instagram trying to just find help in any shape or you know, whether it be bartenders or barrista's or back of house or people to you know, just helping us out in any shape. So, for example, she posted about how we have chalkboards are gonna be hung up with the menu on them. So we're looking for people who had really, really nice penmanship.

And Ashley posted on an Instagram and Abby responded and said, Hi, you know I do this blah blah blah, and she said she also does wall murals. She she does paintings. And we were like, oh, we were actually thinking about doing a wall mural here or anyway. So she came in and gave us her idea and we're like, we love it. And so it was kay worked out perfectly. And so do you pay someone like that or do you just say hey, thanks, I'll tag you on Instagram? Yeah, Hey,

well see you later. Uh no, no, no no, no, no, I paid her. That's good. That's good man. Well, congratulations, I'm excited to be Are you gonna have like an opening ceremony for the for the for the coffee shop. Yeah, so I'm having jets fly by right now and Tom Brady is gonna make an appearance and it should be a pretty good day. Uh No, I think we're gonna try to do something, you know, a nice little ribbon cutting event, get some local press in there, do something

like that. But nothing over the top. But don't you worry. I was certainly I'm gonna be flying you in kalin out to uh hit out of it. So I like, how you go? I like, here you go. Yeah, we're gonna have some press there, maybe a ribbing cutting ceremony, but nothing over the top. Yeah, well, I guess that's a fair point. Actually, nothing crazy. We're just gonna have hot air balloons, the circus clowns making balloons, but nothing crazy.

So it's kind of a big couple of weeks for you then, because next weekend you're going to Ben's wedding. I would assume, right, Um, I just was ccarious because actually pregnant, but she I think is still aways from not being able to travel. So Ben's wedding next weekend, and then weekend after that opening Audrey's and then weekend. After that you got Thanksgiving, and then after that who knows, and then we're moving into a new house December one. Yeah, dude,

we bought a house, so because we rented. We started renting earlier this year when we first moved back to around and Ashley wasn't pregnant. We weren't sure, you know, what we were gonna do. We wanted to build. We're just trying to figure out our life, especially moving across country, and so we're like, well, let's rent an apartment right now and kind of figure it out later. Of course,

out luckily actually got pregnant. I mean lucky because we're having a child, but also not lucky that actually has literally been sick for six months, still sick. I feel so bad. She was, she's throwing up again. Like damn, this girl is getting crushed anyway, I digress. Um. So we were like, we don't want to rent anymore because even if we do build, you know, we're talking like too most likely three years down the road. It's like,

what we're gonna rent till then? So we ended up looking at homes and kind of house I really liked, and it was reasonably priced that we actually went in a little bit under and they accepted our offer, which was insane in this market. So we jumped on it and we moved in December one. So what is the house like, tell us about the house. It's Nats's van Nass. It's a house. Anybody who asked, I'm like, Oh, it's

it's just it's a it's a house. How many windows, Oh, I'd say good Will twenty Maybe I don't know, a lot of natural fancy. We're thinking about it, like there's I think there's Well, the thing is, some of the windows are smaller than others. Like in the bedroom there's two small windows, but I'm counting those, so there's four like regular side of windows, and then like two little two little windows. But that's four all day right there,

just in the bedroom. I know a lot everybody can see in you know, hey, listen, Nashley is throwing up every day. Nothing's happened as it right now. So you guys, you guys bought a house, otto restaurant, having a baby. That's a lot of life changing stuff, big life events, you know. I know I was thinking about it earlier. I mean, granted, it's a lot, but it's all great things. Hopefully if you know, we don't go bankrupt. Um. But

I was thinking about it earlier this year. So just in we moved across country, I graduated from college, we bought a house, we're opening a restaurant, and we're having a kid. Well well, yeah, the kid will be two, but the kid is so I'll give you that one. Yeah, the kids, the kid was created. Hey, it might be the two of personal of a question to answer, and feel free to just say no, I'm not gonna answer that one. How much, um, how much do houses costs

out there? Like, how much of your guys house cost um? I mean in the markets not. I would say it's definitely a lot cheaper than l A. Like if this house was in l A. I mean it's it's it's over a million dollars over a million dollars um, but it was not that expensive over here. I'd say, like, you can get a good, you know, um newish twenty five square foot home on an acre of land. I'd say probably for like, depending on the part of the state,

five siousand dollars. I'm shocked that you guys went an under um market value or whatever and they accepted you guys like read a letter or anything like that. Because so, my brother just bought a house recently in Montana and he was saying how there was like twenty bidders, but they wrote a personalized letter to the seller saying like, yeah, we're pregnant, we're you know, first home the first time

home homeowners. And that's why they gave them the house even though they weren't the high spider was because they like you know, felt more connected. So did you guys do anything special to get the house or was it just like here's their offer. We did not. Wow, whoever sold you your brother's house? Whoever owned that house and sold it to your brother? What a nice human being he literally did. He didn't take the highest offer because he just liked your brother. Isn't that weird? I I

was shocked the same way too. Yeah, he was like, yeah, they just wanted because I guess it was like an older couple and they were selling it. It It was like one of their you know, many houses, and they they just didn't need the extra forty grand or whatever for the top bidder, and they were like, yeah, we want this first time HomeBuyer, a couple to live in our old house and I mean, I was shocked. I've never thought about like writing a letter to anyone about that,

like as a renter or as a home buyer, but anything. Honestly, I hate writing, so the fact that they did that. My brother is pretty good writers, so maybe that's why. But um, but yeah, that's crazy. Congratulations you guys moved in December one. Is it an older house? Are you gonna do an your renovations to it? No, it's a new house. I think that was another thing. So it actually was being built and we were looking at a new construction. We found it and it's not being done.

It won't be finished until December one, which is why we won't move until then. Um. So I think that might have scared the people away too, just because is the timetable of like we bought it like a month, a month, a month ago, so I'm sure people who were looking on the market was like, well we need to move in quicker than just ever first or um, you know, there's certain there was uncertainty with it, but like I said, we were renting right now, so we're

just gonna break our lease. So we're like, well, we have the flexibility where if it tastes longer, we're okay, and we really like the house. So uh so, no, like it's cool because it's unfinished. We get like Ashley gets to like pick out some like you know, cabin tree or you know, she got to pick from like a variety of like six or seven different counter tops stuff like that. Yeah, that's good that you guys are

gonna be the first ones living in it too. That way, you know, for effects not haunted at least not yet. I want to share with you real quick as I was coming home today to jump on the podcast with you guys. Uh So, for just for reference, I'm in Los Angeles right now. Caitlin is in Las Vegas. We have a lot of people in and out of our house right now because we have like our pool going in. We have a lot of renovations going on downstairs as well, so people like you know, contrators are in and out

of the house. As I'm pulling into the house today to get out and start recording this podcast, I get a text from Kalin. She goes, this is like seven in a row. She goes, I think I'm gonna cry or throw up. He came back. He was in the house. I smashed him with a case of bubbly. Oh my god, Kylin texted me all these things, just like one after another, right, and I in my head, I'm like, Okay, this is terrifying. So I call calin real quick. I don't get an answer.

I call our neighbor, who's like, just like this younger guy who have befriended. His name is Andy. I call him. I'm like, Andy, I think someone broke into our house and is attacking Kalin right now. Will you please go over and see if she's safe? And he goes bro I'm so sorry, like I'm out grocery shopping right now. I'm not I'm not at my house. And then all the and then as I'm talking to Andy, Caitlyn calls me back and I'm like, are you alive? Are you okay?

Like what's going on? And she's like quiet and scared and like holding back tears, And I'm like, dude, did you just get attacked by a man in our house? It was a spider. It was spider. I but like, I'm reading these messages and I'm like, are you are you attacked? Are you safe? Like what is going on? It was a freaking spider And I was like Klin, you can't just text me he came back. He's in the house. I'm gonna throw up. I hit him with a case of bubbly and like I was, I was borderline,

like kind of piste off. I'm like, you realize you gave me like a like a heart attack, you know. Um, So hopefully you guys get it sprayed for pests. Our houses now having a pest control come out later today to spray for spiders. She claims it was a tarantula. I don't know if you saw my yeah, because it's like a desert house, so the spiders out there a little bit bigger. Um, I am scared spiders. A week ago, I caught like this. This It was like a baby transil I caught in our house. Um. I don't know

if you saw it on Instagram. And uh, she was terrified of it and I eated it out at the backyard over the fence, and I guess it might have been the same one that came back and was seeking vengeance. She said it was hiding in her shoe and she went to go put her shoe on and she felt it and so she that's when she freaked out. But Anyways, that's my story. That was a highlight of my day. I guess the the near death experience my girlfriend almost didn't have. But um, Jared, what's this? Uh? What are

we talking about today this week? You know we we missed you last week. Um, I will say, as good of an episode as I think it was. If you haven't listened to that one yet, go back and listen to it. It just wasn't the same without you. You know, it's nice to it's nice to have you back. It really is. It's well, thank you. I I don't believe you for one second, but I really appreciate it. Two things come to mind after that story. One, Dude, I could never live in a place where a tarantula might

enter my house. Like that's a good thing about Rhode Island. I feel like there's no tarantula's around here. Grateful for that. Secondly, if Klin wasn't I was thinking more about it when you tell me the story. If Klin was in serious danger and someone broke into the house, if her first reaction was to text you, she needs more of a sense of urgency. But all right, back to the episode. We have a great guess it's Lee de'angelo. She's been

on the podcast before. She of course, is the CEO and co founder of dig which is the dog person's dating app, and Tabby, which is the cat person's dating app. So she's gonna be on the podcast here very soon. We'll get to a hot topic because apparently last week I heard you didn't want to talk about Kardashians. Is that true? Well, I made a point I was saying last week, how you know we have these hot topics

to talk about that are wonderful. Producer Hannah takes time to write out and and and you know, give us questions that we might want to bounce off each other with it. But it's just I made a point of saying, I'm just like not really interested in a lot of these things, like the Kardashians dating lives and um Machine Gun Kelly and Travis Barker, you know, like I just I don't I don't feel like anyone wants to hear me talk about those things because I have no opinion

on them whatsoever. Yeah, I will say, listen, I am don't mind talking about this. Ashley will attest I am that guy who like says, oh I don't care, I don't care, but then I'll give my opinion for a good ten minutes on the whole Pete Davidson in in Kim Kardashian thing, having said that when I saw them holding hands on the roller coaster and now it sits come out, they were like a dinner or whatever. I really don't care. I I don't know why I have

no sense of care into this. Usually I care. Ashley says she's she cares, but I I don't feel it as compelling. Now. Granted, I wasn't really about the Travis what's his name Travis, Travis Barker and and uh Courtney. Yeah, I don't know. Maybe it's just because I'm not that. I mean, I do like Pete Davidson. I'm not gonna lie I really like Pete Davidson, but like for some reason, I'm like, yeah, I hope the date, that's cool whatever.

I don't care. But like Ben Affleck and j Lo come out and I'm I have like a poster of them in my wall. You know. The Pete Davidson thing um is interesting because I feel like every time he breaks up with someone, and he is like a serial celebrity dater, right, like he was dating Ariana Grande. Now he's allegedly dating Kim Kardashian, But between them, I think there was some other really famous person he was dating.

And I feel like every time he breaks up with someone, the person that he was dating has negative things to say about him. But he's always landing these, you know, incredible women, and he's incredibly successful women. Um So, I just don't know what it is. I guess it's like the sense of humor. He's got the sense of torment that he's faced with on a regular basis. I don't know. But the guys, he's got something called what's it called when somebody only wants to date celebrities, it's like a

social climber. Anybody knows this phrase? Ash, you do know what I'm talking about. Yeah, it's a star per pretty much conness cloud chaser could be that, Yeah, couldn't be. The thing is he's already got he's already gott like he is a pretty famous guy already. But yeah, I think Kim Kardashian is the most famous person in the world, right so, But like so, he dated Cassie David, Larry David's daughter for a couple of years and then he

dated obviously Ariana Grande and they got engaged. And then he dated Kate beckinsale M who's very attractive, and she isn't she like sixty, she's older. No, she's not sixty, but she's There was a twenty year age difference between the two of them, so he was like probably twenty five, so she must have been okay, Yeah, slipped it up

nice and done very quick. Uh. And then a couple other ones, a girl from Bridgetain I don't know, but I'm I don't know which one that is, Kaya Gerber Margery Quality uh and then uh, Phoebe Phoebe Denver, that's the one from Burt Okay, so he didd these all girls. And now obviously he's being linked up to Kim Kardashian, one of the most famous people in the world. So like, is he just a celebrity bleeper? Like is this who

Pete Davidson is? And he's just he's like a closet celebrity bleeper because he's already a celebrity, but he just he just wants to date other celebrities. Yeah, it seems like he just likes he's a serial celebrity. That's crazy because he comes off so much different than that. You would think he'd want to date someone nobody knows anything about, right, But that's like someone like Elon Musk's ex wife, like Hall Hall, Is it Halsey Halsey? Right, wasn't he? Wasn't

she dating Grimes? Right? Someone like that. I feel it would be more appropriate for Pete Davidson. I was about, say Easton coming in the clutch, just throwing names d or like who's the who's the younger singer that's really famous right now? Um oh, she's like you know, she sings like those sad songs. What is her name? Taylor Swift? No, no, no, Olivia Rodrigo. She's kind of like moody, moody singer she's got. He's got like the tired look all the time. Eastern

you know who I'm talking about? Billie Eilish, Who are you talking about? I think she's gonna date Pete Davidson. That's her prediction. Well, I'm just saying I feel like that's kind of the more more of the type that Pete Davidson seems like he would want to go for, you know, like artistic, troubled kind of type. Let me. Let me get you into the pathology of a of a weird, lanky person like myself. And so if Pete Davidson had anything like me, we felt marginalized for a

lot of our lives. And now he's at a point where he's like he's on s and now he's been in a bunch of movies, has probably got a bunch of money. You know what, No, I want to date the crazy big pop star. I want to date Kim Kardashi and I want like he's gonna do old like he's doing wish fulfilment right now. This is like he's living like a seventeen year old boys fantasy because that's where he's like, I think a part of him is

mentally stuck there. Uh and uh, he's having the time of his life and I love it and I wish him the best. Yeah, the wish fulfillment thing, I guess that makes a lot of sense, right, Like he's finally got the capability to do the things he's always wanted to do, so he's just gonna go out and do it. Like he's not get married in these people. I know he and Ariana Grande were engaged, but like they weren't

gonna get made. Uh so I agree with you, he'd probably be happier with, like, you know, a lesser known person that maybe had more depth in certain places. But um no, I don't know. I think that's why he's going for the Kardashian. Here's the question I have is that, yeah, listen follows him. Of course, you date everybody and anybody you can get. But how the hell is he getting

all these women? That's the question. He's a good looking guy, he's charismatic, don't get me wrong, but to the point where you can pull all within like three years, Ariana Grande, Kate Beckinsale and Kim Kardashian. I'm mean, that's good work right there. That's good work. It really is good work, East Easton. While we have you here as a lanky man fellow to Pete Davidson, what what do you predict for him moving forward romantically? I don't know. This is

like trying to territory. I don't know. Um, I had to come on, guys, talk about Okay, please, are you gonna talk about Pete Davidson? This? Um? Okay? So screaming from the other room, sorry, okay, So I called my sister this morning. Yeah okay, she did it, as she whispers into the mic. No, if it makes you feel any better, I didn't brush my teeth this morning either, So oh my god, who who do I podcast with? Who do I live with? That? Sometimes you're sorry having

a bad day? Okay? Um. I called my sister today to talk about this very thing because Kim and Pete had their second date last night, and like, we are not shocked at this at all, because it makes so much sense. He's so charismatic. He has a nice face, I'll be a little bit different looking and maybe not classically handsome. My sister says that he has height in humor and that's all girl really needs to be wooed.

He has, like, um, something very endearing about him. Um, he seems sensitive and I guys like keep saying like, oh, it must be because he has a big dick, because like Arianna said that, and that is like absolutely nobody cares. Okay, they care about the fact that he's so charming. You can't say that. You have to say you care. Okay, I care. No, Please do a poll on whether girls really care or not. Um, okay, we'll get that. Okay,

So it just makes a lot of sense. I am not surprised that he's doing able to real all these girls in I remember seeing him at the Comedy Seller in New York City. He was seventeen years old, and we were like, what in the world where like this seventeen year old was so hot? He was because he was just like he just has it. That's all. That's all. Goodbye. Actually has a question I've got I've got a question for you as an informed individual. Easton was a little

too scared to tread an unknown waters. What do you think that the future of Pete Davidson's romantic life entails for him? Um? I mean, he and Kim aren't getting married or anything. They're going to break up, They're not getting engaged. That's what Easton seems to think as well. But who do you think he's going to go a long term with or no one at all? I think he's going to take his time. He's only seven, I think wait till he's thirty five. How how many times

has Kim been married? Three? So this would be a fourth if heard he get married. Oh my god, getting married, that's so silly. Yeah, but I don't know, I can see it happening. So she's been married three times, but no, there's no way she could possibly get married to Pete David. Yeah, like he's gonna be the steps. Why what he proposed arian a Grande? What like? Was it a super fast engagement? It was like a month or something like that? Wasn't that the story? That's not happening here, Kim, Kim has

a lot of head on her shoulders. In Jared's defense, though, Kim does know how to grab a headline, so I think that that will say. There's a really funny TikTok going on about like how Courtney had the attention for like a couple of days too long, And Kim was like, screw Kim, Yeah, yeah, you make a good point, asked, well, thank you so much for imparting your wisdom on us. We really appreciate it. Brush my teeth now, Yeah, that's nice.

I wish I could do that, but I don't have time because coming up we have it Lee D'Angelo, who we've had on the podcast before, the creator of dig and the creator of the new cat dating app Tabby. All Right, welcome back to help I suck at dating. As Dan t s before the Break and Ashley, I'm happy to report, is currently brushing her teeth. More importantly, we have our very special guest who is the CEO and co founder of not only Dig the Dog person Dating App, but Tabby, the cat person dating App. It

is Lee D'Angelo. Lee, thank you so much for joining us once again. Welcome back to the podcast. Thank you guys so much. So. How have things been going on Dig and now you started a brand new Obviously it's been going well because if you have a dog app and now you just created a cat app, I'm assuming things are going well. Yes, that assumption is cracked. Yeah, things have been pretty amazing. Uh. We launched Tabby kind

of a beta version last year. Uh, and we just went kind of officially national because Tabby just aired on Shark Tank last week. Yay, congratulation. You got a deal for for the listeners. I love I love Shark Tank shows. Yeah, Kaylyn and I watched all the time. Um, I had to keeping up with the new seasons though. But it looks like you got a deal three thousand in exchange for thirty of Tabby, right, so I e oh, sorry, sorry, we can share that. That's okay, that's okay, breaking news

on help my second dating. I want to know what the experience was like going on Shark Tank? Were you nervous? Um? What was it like standing up in front of all the sharks? I just just tell us everything. I'm so excited to talk to you guys about this because from y'all's point of view, being on reality TV and for most of us going on Shark Tank, that's not our experience at all. Uh, you know that we've got to how to have a really interesting perspective. But for me,

my background is in media and TV. I was a TV news reporter. You know, I've pitched my company many times before and this was nothing like either of those And so I truly have no idea how people make it on this show without having media training, because the basics, you know, like, don't look at this camera as the boom cameras going by you, but do look at this one as often as you can, and after you may or may not make a deal. When you walk out, you can't look at this camera, but we want you

to smile at that one. And you're supposed to remember that after you just pitched your you know, your business, baby too. Massive celebrity investors who could really change your life. Uh. And but I mean the entire process was insane. I don't think you guys know this, But the reason we were on truktanc is because Katie Thurston, the previous bachelorette, posted about us on her stories and she had just been kicked off Matt Season and she has this awesome cat,

Tommy that she posts photos with all the time. And so our social team just kind of added her and said, don't worry. You know you're gonna find your next guy on tabby. This is before we knew she was gonna be the bachelorette. And she reposted it was so excited that, you know, we're a small business and we're sister you know, co founders. Uh. And then of course ABC producers were watching everything she posted and they reached out to us and they said, hey, if Katie likes it, we like you,

why don't you guys come on and apply? And that was last February. Wow, well that's that's kind of a coolis story moment. And then so so they reached out to you in February or July, you said, right, and then what was the process or February right? Right? And then so you submit the application that gets you on there. Um, how nervous were you walking out there? That wasn't terrifying. I just like who was on the panel. It was obviously Kevin was like Mark there, and then Lorie and

like who else? Yeah, well, first of all, just submitting an application and getting on that process was from February to July. So just because the producers reached out to us, we didn't get special consideration because there's a different producer for every step of the way. So if anyone's looking to apply to Shark Tank, you know, you can go the traditional route. You can hope that a producer reaches out to either one's going to put you in the

same kind of lineup. Then you have to go through and do because um of COVID and everything, a million different zoom interviews with different producers. Our team is across the country, so the three of us who you saw on Shark Tank all um work together and tried to zoom at the same time doing our pitch, which you know can be hard trying to follow scripts on that and uh keep your energy up and it took a long time. You also have to do full due diligence Um.

You know, they don't just take a company and hope that it's a real company. You actually have to show that you're a real company first. Um. And then you know they ask you questions that you could be totally honest and give the total wrong answer, like what sharks are you hoping to pitch in front of? And they have so many rotating if you kind of say one that they don't plan on having, they might not pick you. And there's a million reasons they might not pick you

right now. Luckily, we really on it, either Mark Cuban or Kevin O'Leary, because Mark had invested in dating apps before and Kevin had invested in cat apps before, and kind of unknowingly this is something I should have done research on. But they are two of the three who are always on. So by giving that answer, we gave ourselves kind of a boost which I didn't realize. So I don't know sneak you know, or hidden message there? Yeah, there you go. The first time, the first time you

meet the sharks are is on camera. There's nothing beforehand right right. The only reason I saw Mark Cuban before is because he used the bathroom right before me. Weren't supposed to say anything, but uh, I was twenty weeks pregnant on the show, and so they suddenly we thought we were going back to our trailer, and they're like, actually, you're going to go pitch right now. And I was like, there's something very important I have to do, you know,

to this like backstage a little bathroom. And I was like, oh, looking up at him, like not allowed to say anything, like see you soon, you know. Yeah. Um. So the other two sharks were Robert Hershevik, who is one of the original He was on Dragon's Den Um and he kind of rotates through a lot. But the guest shark was near Avtolia and he is the CEO or the co founder of next door, and so we were so excited to hear about that because I mean, think about

how you use next door. How I use next door is when my neighbors lose their pet, right, Like that's the number one I think about. Um. So we we thought it was just all going to be a really good match. Robert Hershevik on the cybersecurity company um, which is a massive consideration for dating apps, and so we just and he's a big pet person to Robert, Yeah, and just so nice. Uh yeah, he's one of my favorites as well. He seems like a really nice guy.

So that's what threw me off the most. I was acting, for sure like nice guy over here. You know, Lori is a huge cat person, um and she works with you know products, and we have a ton of um B two B you know, deals and stuff on our platform, so I thought she might be interested. You know, Kevin Mr wonderful as a cat you know business guy, he's not actually a cat person. He just says he likes you'll hear it on the show. He says he likes

cat flow cash flow. Right, that's this thing. Um have been a great match for us because of all the next door stuff. And then Mark Cuban we knew would be a really hard pitch because um he's invested in dating apps that haven't gone that well, and so we knew it'd be great if he came on. He'd have a like so much knowledge that would help us. But at the same time, I knew that would be a tough one. So I get out there and I'm like, oh,

I'm gonna play to the Mr. Nice guy. Like he kind of ripped us to shreds just you know, none of it made it to air, so I can't give any like specific details, but like I think I was just picturing him to be like overly nice, and when he wasn't, I was like, wait, my whole game plans thrown off up here, and just like a regular business

person a second way to second, this hurts. Yeah yeah, so um no, I mean dating app world is so hard for someone who understands, you know, cybersecurity and data protection. If that's your number one concern, which it's always been ours as well, it's a tough conversation. And mean, people are really vulnerable when you go on dating apps. You know that you're trying to put yourself out there, the things that you do to protect yourself elsewhere on the internet.

Even a smart Internet savvy, you know, regular person on dating apps, you don't realize you let your guard down so much because you're going in there with such hope of finding love that you fall victim to scammers at a much higher rate. Even when you look at these scams and you're like, really, this guy was offering you a gift card that if you went on a date with him, he would repay you, and like, like it seems so obvious, but when you're on there, you're just

in a different mindset. And so I almost once fell for winning a cruise ship vacation. I got a phone call. I know, I was in the grocery store. This was like four years ago, and I got a phone call and I was like, I want to play this out until they ask for any type of money or credit card information. And then finally came around just so when we need to put a credit card on file, and I was like, well, I'm not going to do that, and like, no, we can't. You can't win the tickets

without a credit card on file. And I was like okay, bye bye. It was very disappointing. But you know what's funny, those Facebook quizzes, those apparently are some ways to those are scams too, Like I see my mom do that all the time on Facebook, where it's like, oh, like what's your soul you know animal or your your spirit animal and it's like, oh, I was a giraffe ha ha.

But I'm like, Mom, they ask you all these questions like your birthday, you're school, like what school you went to, and it's all questions that are like kind of security questions to go and garner more information about you. My mom. She doesn't know. We're getting a little off topic here. Al right, back to back to Shark Tank. I got more questions about Shark Tank. But that's actually an important lesson, Jared. I agree with what you're saying. If you're listening to the

the podcast, don't do that. Don't do those quizzes because you could end up giving up some some pertant information. Alright, Lee, So I've got a question for Tabby. So how has how is life changed for you guys since since recording the show and then since the show has aired, because I'm sure it probably was like a two step thing, right, Yeah, we recorded um back in the middle of July and

it just aired last week. And so, first of all, having to keep that secrets, I don't know how you guys did that when you went on your shows, like, yeah, we didn't really keep secrets. It was like, I just hope it doesn't get out really right, Well, I told all my friends, but I never like share anything publicly, you know. I think that's just kind of the general rule of thumb, at least for bet for Bachelor at contestants.

But all right, so you filmed in July, were you were under a strict like, hey, if you say anything, we're gonna sue your ass. So not just in general, we were under like because it was ABC, Sony, Shark Tank, Disney. And then each of the investors lawyers basically see seed on all of our communications. When you get there, they sit you down and basically remind you that if you tell anyone anything at all, you're disqualified. Like it was a constant, constant because the main point of the show

is like finding out if you get the deal. So the biggest worry was, Okay, maybe someone finds out you're going to be on the show, but if they find out about the deal, like we're gonna pull you, Like that takes away the whole reasoning. And so to sit on this information like we didn't even know if we could tell our own investors right that we actually struck

a deal with um Mr wonderful. So yeah, that was wild and then have it air Sorry go ahead, Oh no, I was just gonna say, I remember the first guy who wants Survivor whose name is Richard Atch, and this was like pre internet, not pre internet, but you know, pre social media, and he it was a surprise, like no one knew if he won the million dollars. That's why everybody was watching Survivor to see who was the

final person. But he lived in Rhode Island and he bought like a six d thousand dollar house before it aired, and so people were like, he obviously won the million dollars because he just bought a huge house. That's so that it was spoiled for like local Rhode Islanders. Anyway, back to you, Lee, I didn't do anything like that. Um, but no, no, you're right since it aired, the amount of press we've gotten the you know, shark tink watchers

on their own Friday was obviously a big day. But most people are watching on Hulu now and so it's just kind of like a constant uptick of when people are binging the show. Um, we had the East Coast airing and then the West Coast airing, and you know, last time I talked to you guys, it was all dogs right, Like it's I've been dog since day one. I have a dog to be Like the face of

cat people now is wild. I love it because it's all about love and animals and I'm more than a million percent for that, but it just cracks me up that I've spent years building up dig to then you know, be the cat person. So well, there's this stigma about you don't want Like a lot of girls, right they're like, we don't want to be the cat lady who's you know, by herself in her home with nine cats. It's worse for guys. There have been studies out there, which is

literally why we launched this last year. UM. There was a study that came out UM from the University of Colorado, the Veterinary Institute that said guys with cats in their profile photos on dating apps performed worse and we're seen as more neurotic and less masculine, and so they often hide the facts that they have a cat, which surprised the study UM people because they ought if you had any animal, you would be you know, seen as a good match. But cats actually made people perform worse on

general dating apps. And so from day one we said, Okay, these guys need to have their own space. You know, I never thought I'd be like the leader of the guys who have cats. You know, let's get them uh promoted, And finally we gotta find a wife for these guys with all these poor men, but at thee the women can't find them, right if you're hiding what it is and what it matters to you, um, and it affects so much of your life. You know that. This has been my pitch from day one for both apps. You've

got animals in your home. Both of them are most likely sleeping in your bed. So if you're talking about long term relationships, it's kind of a big deal. Pretty you know, possibly pretty soon. Uh. It's how you spend your money, it's how you spend your time. You know, the type of dog you have, um, if it you know? Not all the dogs you know travel as well as yours, dean, um,

you know. But it affects your travel life, and affects how clean you keep your house, all sorts of different aspects that normally you wouldn't have those conversations in dating apps. But you know, Oh nice, I had to bring Lois. We were talking about dogs. This is mine? Yeah you go, she was laying right there. Hello. Okay, since the show is aired, have you seen a lot of new profiles being made for Tabby? Yes, it's amazing. It's the best

thing that could have happened. To us for sure, is it like is it like a crazy spike too, like you just like, yeah, I don't even know. I don't know, Like what a crazy thing, right to go on Shark Tank. And even like that's another thing too about Shark Tank. Even if you don't get the deal for you know, a certain amount of money, whatever it is, you still get so much exposure if you get aired, like it's it's like kind of like a win win in that regard.

Oh definitely. Yeah. And they told us from the start, you're only airing um if you don't get a deal, because they have to show some of those um if you turn down a deal, which is like super dramatic, right, um, or if you close a deal and actually work with the shark to actually close the investment because so many people were going on and uh, just wanting the exposure, turning around and then saying never mind, we don't want

to give up some of our company. And so they tell you that when you're applying, like, don't you know we're going to weed out the people who aren't really trying to make a business deal here because it's such incredible exposure. What was there a number that you were going to be willing to turn down an offer at not really, Well, this is all the after they already im assuming everything is already signed and transferred and ready to go. So like if they offered you, like like

ten grand, you would have taken it. So here's the thing, and this was our business decision from the very start. Um, we have dig the dog person is stating at we have dig Dates, Inc. Which is the corporation, and then we've got dig LLC, which is where all our dig fun stuff actually lives, and Tabby LLC. And when we pitched Tabby, Tabby was extraordinarily new, um less than a year old, but also going through major issues. If you watched the episode. When I pitched, we had just been

dropped by our development team. We had no app and no users on the around chart thing. Of course, I call the producers and they're like, this is TV gold right, so we knew they'd like it. But I was basically pitching a roadmap. I said, we've got this other app that's doing extraordinarily well, I'm not going to give you details on it because that's not what we're talking about here, which you know, difficult to sell anyway. But here's our team, here's what we've done in the past. Here's why our

tech is going to be different. You know, I already have new developers working on it. We've got an app already under review at the app Store. But we could start with zero And I said, there's a you know, there's a huge chance we start with zero users while you're investing. I believe in it, and here's why. And we needed to find someone who believed in it with us. And so we weren't about to go in there and be like, no, you know, we demand a certain amount.

You know, we know we needed their partnership just as much as and also what's good for Tabby is good for Dick I imagine too, right, So like, even if they're only getting a piece of Tabby, I'm sure dig is still going to see a bit of an uptick as well. So I gotta know before we let you go, what is the next animal app going to be? My God, we get this question all the time. I think, uh, you know, I think horse people that yeah, it when

you think about lifestyle, you know, the horse lifestyle. If you're really talking about money and you're talking about time or like smells right, like horse people have to find each other. And it's different than like farmers only like there's a whole other section of like horse people. I don't think it's a massive market, but I think people would really appreciate it. Smells, you know, like horse stable smell. Yeah, yeah, kind of you know, lifestyle stuff to people who ride

horses smell like that constantly. Probably I'm gonna go with most often yes, interesting, Maybe not like the stable, but they definitely probably have a different smell than like someone that's not around horses all the time. I think that's fair. Yea more often smelling like horses, then you're not horse people. There's something about horses too, if you have if you have a horse, I don't know, there's something very attractive

about that. I agree with that. Yeah, you're gonna find a lot of people who want to date horse people, right yeah. Yeah. And then the other one we get um, which I love And I grew up with a bird. Bird people are really cool to me too, So yeah, I think, yeah, like a like a chameleon chameleon one. Okay, I gotta say that it hasn't come to me yet. Well, I feel like so many people like you know, how like it's like, oh, I have a pet snake or

I have a pet. Yeah, But I think I think the biggest thing that Leaves made a point of is like some of these pets are like drastically changing how we as humans of our lives. Right. Reptiles, I feel like, are pretty independent, So you could like travel for a couple of days. You're not gonn to sleep with it in your bed. It's not gonna make you smell any different.

But I agree, like there's still probably like certain characteristics that overlap if you're if you're a fan of having a snake in your house, right, there's gonna be a little bit of at least common grounds for a lot of that stuff. I don't know, are you guys coming in touch? Yeah? You any more celebrity star power behind

the apps? You know, we don't have much to tougher in terms of financing or business knowledge, but we can post about it on our Instagram, So I guess you need We'll try to reach out to some people because yeah, the last thing, the last thing you need is a our help. It sounds like you got it all figured out already, But thank you so much for joining us. For the listeners out there, you've already downloaded dig obviously because last time we had Lee on the podcast, you

went out and did that. But now you can go out and download Tabby's ready to download right nice, and you can get in the app store. I'm sure whether you're on the iPhone or Android, whatever it is, um, but thank you so much for joining us. We're we're so excited. Where else can we? Uh, I guess follow along with your journey. Dig Dates on insta Gram and Tabby Dates on Instagram for sure, but yeah, both apps have a free version on the App Store and Google Play.

And then we've got a free trial right now if you want to upgrade to V I P for a few days for each of them too, So definitely check us out. So exciting. Thank you so much for joining us in congratulations. Thanks, welcome back everybody to help I suck at dating. Thanks for joining us. Lee. It sounds like something's going on in Jared's studio there. It's amazing. It's like Frankenstein busting down the door. Actually just constantly

comes into the room when I'm recording. I mean, it's always good content though, Actually, you have something you want to clarify, apparently here she comes off the bed. Here she is to wreck the day. I thought I could just come back and clarify the penis comments and obviously obviously not very much of an expert in this. Okay, let's settle down here. I'm saying I don't need seen many jar you know, I don't need visualization. Okay. Well, what I meant to say it was, no girl cares

as long as it's average and beyond. Okay, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, So you're saying that, like guys, you know, when like Diana and I were in high school, and you're like, you know, it's a measuring contest. You're saying that it didn't matter. No, that's what I mean. I was watching this TikTok the other day, and sometimes on TikTok, every of the comments during like a boring section,

and this person made a really good point. They say that girls, for some reason, you're always looking for a hot guy with a big penis. And if you think about it from like a like a family standpoint, it's like, why do you care about your kids dad having a big penis. It's just like it doesn't make any sense, you know, So just because you're I don't know, it's

just like something food for thought. If you think about it, like, penis size probably doesn't really matter that any thing, right, I think guys care more about comparing, thinking that it makes huge again, you know, I would also say as much as like, you know, obviously Dena and I are straight males. I'm sure we like boobs, but I think girls make a bigger deal about boob size similar to

guys probably make a bigger deal about penis size. It's probably true, yeah, right, we care much more about the booty. I mean you do, you don't, Yeah, you don't care about boobies a little bit, but as long as they're you know, so why do we care whether the butt is big or not? You know, it's just like a butts of butt buts are Yeah, I agree with. At the same time, I don't know. Maybe it's just like a visual thing. Now it's also a nice grabbything, I guess.

I guess. The point at the point that I was trying to make it point I was trying to make was whether your wife has a big butt or small butter, or big boobs or small boobs, or your husband has a big penis or a small penis. None of those attributes are going to make them a better or worse parent, you know what I mean of the day, it doesn't really matter if they have and everybody finds any like beauty.

I truly believe beauties in the eye the beholder. Like some people just like different things and there's nothing wrong with that. Yeah, and Jared and uh Ashley apparently like small penises, which is great for you. Jared, Yeah, No, I worked out well for me. I said, You're not helping them. Oh Jesus Christ, you know, I'm I'm confident with who I am. I'm confident. Okay, hold on, hold on one thing though, I will say, because we talked about guys make a bigger deal about their own size

because it comes from a place of insecurity. But then I see, what was it? What was the show a couple of months ago where everybody was talking about that one scene the guy in the shower he turned around and had a giant penis. It was like, what, no, not basketball? Yeah, remember they like taking the shower and he turns around. It's like it's like it's like a third leg. Essentially, it's like se it stuff. Yeah, that was But I'm talking about the new Netflix show that

just came out like a month. It's called sex Life, and so anyway, I saw everybody post about this. Amy actually had wanted us to watch it, and so I watched a little bit of it. But then I saw on everybody's social media it was like sex Life episode three or whatever. Literally I saw you know who. I saw Olivia Creedy in a post about this, because I saw it wasn't just her, but I remember seeing hers where she was like she was like I just watched

the scene and I'm speechless or something like that. I was like, I gotta see what the hell this is, and so of course I fast forward to that one particular. Of course, I definitely wasn't home this leegue. No I will, because again we were gonna Our producer was like, hey, can you watch the show and we'll talk about it on the podcast, and so I started watching, but of course I can't really get into TV shows, plus it

was like too dramatic for me. But then I was like, I gotta see this one part that legitimately everybody is talking about, and of course I fast for it. And it's a shower scene of a guy and he turns around and his penis is I'm not joking, not erect. It's probably fourteen inches long. So it's like Mark W. L bergin Um, I don't think Mark, Oh about how like yeah, and how did that? How did the penis play into the storyline of the show? Was that like

a I don't think anything. I mean I I watched it without context and was it was it a real penis or do you think it was a prosthetic or what prosthetic? I bet it was real. I mean you think about it, like you know, I've I have seen I have seen porn, and I'm sure Dean has and I'm sure Ashley has. And you see guys in there and that are like ginormous. It's like you you can probably do something or take something. So I should probably

go watch this clip. No, no, why would you? I'm going to watch because then you're not gonna be okay with average Like that's Alvin. That looks like it hurts. Oh god, we're getting well, hey, it's a dating podcasts and the things that we got to talk about We've talked about it before. Boyfriend penis man, boyfriend penis is an important thing, isn't that How cute. All right, we have an email we should probably get to and stop talking about this stuff. Stop talking about Jared's average penis.

Let's get to emails. Um, we definitely have lost listeners. We have Easton on board of this, I think, and we have an email from Carla Easton. If you're there and you're listening to this, when you read that email forr us, please with pleasure, with pleasure average size pleasure. Yes, I was. I was like, interesting word choice there. Hey, it's not it's not the size. That's how you use it, right, That's what That's what they say. But um, Carla says,

I just this is actually somewhat related. I decided to finally get a boob job. My boobs have always been a huge insecurity of mine, and I finally saved up enough money to get them done. I asked my boyfriend if you could take some time off work to help me with the recovery process, and he suddenly started an argument about it. He went on and on about your perfect just the way you are. Why would you waste money on that? My question is why are men like this?

My boyfriend's celebrity crash literally has fake boobs botox filler, and who knows what other procedures. Why will men follow Instagram models or crushed on women who have all these things done, but then turn and tell their partners don't do that. I like natural nous. Mm hmm. Listen, I have let me go first, just because I have a thought about this, she says. Carla says that I, as in Carla, finally saved up enough money to get them done.

Why is your boyfriend so upset where you spent the money on something that you feel insecure about that you probably feel a lot more confident about. He should just relax enjoy the fact that his his girlfriend now has you know, uh, something that I'm sure he can enjoy as well. Uh. And Carla, it was an insecurity viewers, and if you felt self conscious about it, then you should absolutely if you wanted to get your boob jumb done,

get it done. I'll how about this, Carla. Also, you should follow Claire Claire Carley because Claire talked about this very open and honestly over the past few weeks. She had a boob job and then she just got them removed. Now I don't know the context of why she got them removed, but I know that she was very open and honest and talking about it, so I would go to her page because she she might have some words

of wisdom on there. Yeah, this is a This is a tricky one because there's definitely two sides to it, and I could see either side, uh being the case. I agree with Jared that it's your money, you spend out how you want. If it's something you're insecure about, go ahead and and take care of it. But then I could also like if Kaylin came to me and she was like, do you know I want to get a boob job. I'm gonna go tomorrow and get it done,

I would be the same way as your boyfriend. I would be like, like, I don't think you need it, Um, you're perfect just the way you are, Like, I don't know, like I would. I would also be in the camp of not wanting Klan to get one, but I fully understand want to get one for your own, you know, confidence purposes whatever. I think. Really what it blows down to is it's a shame that in today's day and age, people getting boob jobs is going to boost their confidence,

you know what I mean? Like, I think that's really what it's like a systemic thing at the end of the day. But um, I guess I'm not really giving much good advice here because I see both sides of it. But Eastern, what is your take on it? You know? The thing men are so stupid. The thing I always think about is like whenever there's a lot of guys that are like, I love it when my girl doesn't

wear any makeup. Man, I love the real nous. And it's like, I guarantee every dude that says that their version of no makeup, there's still quite a bit of makeup, like, you know, like it's it's it's more subtle and it's it's less, but there's still makeup there. Uh So. But the more important thing is that this is something she

wants to do. This is something that's gonna give her confidence, and he can tell her I don't think you need it, but if this is something you really want to do, then then you should do it because it's ultimately I mean, you guys both said it. It's it's her body, it's what she wants to do. Um, And let's all let's all put ourselves in the scenario. Right. Let's say you're both of your wives came to you and they said, Hey, I'm thinking about going to get this procedure done. What

do you think, What would you do? I would say, I love you the way you are, but if it's gonna make you feel better, then totally go for it. Yes I would, I've said, I say the same thing. My wife gets, like you know, she gets like filler and stuff like that all the time, and I and I helped pay for it, and you know, and I'm I'm down to Like, I think she looks great and whatever she wants to do, I think, Um, she's not gonna intentionally make herself ugly, you know what I mean?

Like she she my wife is a very beautiful person, and um, she likes being beautiful. So I don't think that she's gonna like intentionally do something to make her less than that. Uh. You know, she's gonna like turn into Joan Rivers or something that's some like crazy like jokerfied face. That's just not gonna happen. So, UM, I trust whatever she wants to do, uh, is something she wants to do. Uh. And and also it's her body,

and I just keep thinking about that, you know. So I mean I agree that's kind of why it's just a a touchy thing for us to talk about, because like, who are we to talk about a woman getting a breast implant? Um. I've got to say though, from from perspective of a guy, which is, you know, it's obviously you're not getting a boob job for the guys. You're getting it for yourself and all that kind of stuff. If that's what you're doing, that is I think the

right way to go about it. If you're getting a boob job because you think guys will find you more attractive or whatever, I think that's the wrong reason because as someone that has experienced both natural and uh, fake boobs, I would say I would take natural nine out of ten times. So like, yeah, fake boobs are great, and they might look great, but at the end of the day, I think, like, whether you have big boobs or small boobs naturally, I think, you know, I would almost nine

times out of ten prefer that over fake boobs. And I feel weird talking about this, but that's all right. Yeah, I don't know, Like, like I said, if Klin, I'm kind of in the different boat than you guys. Like you guys both said you'd be supportive of your partner's getting a boom job. I would try to talk Kalin out of it because it just seems like like Claire's explant surgery, you know, like it can cause health complications

on top of that, like well I think fake boobs. Yeah, it doesn't like don't you feel like get a leak? That's bad. That's really bad. It can cause like an infection. Is that another thing. It's definitely a thing. I don't know if it's common though, Okay, I don't know. I feel like I've heard that before. We're like it can cause like it could be bad, bad, bad bad. But anyway, that's all stuff that you need to talk to dr

about see what's best. But I agree with Dean. If you want to do it for yourself, then I think it's something that you should. You know, yeah, go for it, But yeah, don't do it because you're insecure and you think that you know people are gonna find you more active. If you also you know you wanted, then you go get them. Also, maybe treadle like a teatle like a tattoo.

You know you've got the money for it, now, maybe sit on it for a year and then if any year from now, you still want to get it done, then you should obviously go about and do it. I think that's kind of a good rule of thing for this is that how you got is that how you did your tattoos. You sat on it for a year. Um I at the beginning, Yeah, I would keep an idea with you for a while, and if I still had that idea year a year later, I would get it.

Obviously that that rule has since vanished because I will just show up at a tattoo parlor and get the funniest thing that I could see on the wall. Um, I will say the bag of rats. I got a bag of rats on my leg. And that was the one that I was like, Kaylen, I want to get bag of rats tattooed on me. And she was like, Dean, that's the dumbest thing you could possibly do. And then a year and a half later, I was still thinking about a bag of rats, and I was like, I

gotta get it. So I went out and you gotta do it. Well, I've got I have it, but I've waited. I took my time. I made sure that it was something that I wanted. It was less spur of the moment than a lot of the other tattoos that I have. Oh okay, that's I think enough of three guys talking about women getting breast surgery. So we do we do? We want to answer this last email that we have time for it. I think we should save it for next week. Do you have a tattoo you regret? Dean

really quick? Um? You know, I not anymore. But there were times where I would get a tattoo and regretted it. But now that I have so many, like stupid and meaningless tattoos, I don't regret the ones that I used to regret, you know what I mean. Also, I've gotten some things wrong. Um, like on my on my forearm here, I've got a note that my mother wrote to me before she passed, and it's, uh, it's facing the wrong direction.

He like started doing the tattoo or no, he like put the stents along and I was like, yeah, that's perfect, and he started doing it and like two lines down I was like, wait a second, No, it's facing the wrong direction. And I always felt like such an idiot, but whatever it is, what it is. Um. But no, I don't think I regret any of them. Do you

regret any years. Uh no, no, I don't. My wife's getting her tattoos removed right She's in the process of it right now, and uh it's, um, it seems painful as hell, But I don't regret my baas and I and I'm keep in my mine are awesome. Why is she getting them removed? She just doesn't want to. She

just doesn't want them anymore. Uh. You know that she called them at a time of her life that they had a different meaning, and now she would like to wear um, like one of them is on her ankle and she's like, I'd like to wear a skirt to work and I have to like ex playing this thing. Uh yeah, So, um, she's getting them removed, and it's uh, you know, it's a cosmatic procedure that she wants to do, and I fully support it. Hey listen, I'm not gonna lie.

I like immediately have to go to the bathroom. So do you want to just like take it from here and close this out, because like I've been trying to, I have to go right now, Like there's no you go to the bathroom, Go to the bathroom, and HeLa tattoos for a couple more minutes. Yeah, do you what You're gonna just take us out of the podcast? Yeah? Yeah, well you just go to the bathroom. I'll take care of the us. Don't you worry about it. Okay. I love you guys so much. Thank you like it hurts. Yeah,

go to the bathroom. I'll take care of huys. Love you. Um Eastern, aren't you said you were gonna get like one or two more tattoos right before and then you're gonna call it? Yeah, we were talking about the other day. There's something I might get, but I don't know. Probably maybe I'm not as you can tell, I'm not very passionate about it. But we'll see. Yeah, that's yeah, that's kind of how I am to h I want to

get more less like random doodles on my leg. I'm going to get there's this drawing of snoopy like pointing and laughing. Uh, and I was gonna get it like on my on the inside of my leg and he's like pointing it. Funny enough top, it's very prevalent for this podcast. He's gonna be pointing up towards my cross region. Um, so like he's like laughing at my average size penis. I guess that was kind of the joke there. I think that's the next thing I was gonna get. I

just haven't made the appointment for it yet. Um. I love that. We'll see. Yeah, thanks. Well. The nice thing about my tattoos is that I feel like, for years you have to like find an artist and get him to like, you know, set aside eight hours because you get some like pretty good like big peces, and mine are always just really small and stupid. So I could just walk into any part tattoo parlor and they're like, yeah, we can do that. I will say really quick. I

in It was the ten years ago on Halloween. Halloween, I went to a shop with my buddy and they were doing the like thirty one dollars for a tattoo, like off of a flash sheet, and uh I did that and I was like, oh my god, this is like I can't believe I'm just seeing this for the first time minutes before it's going on my body forever. This is so insane. It's been ten years. I still really like it. I like a lot. Which one is that it's um, it's just like it's on my upper thigh.

It's like a woman with like spider legs coming out of her head. Oh yeah, yeah, no, I like that one. That one's badass. Yeah, it's cool. It came off a sheet and who knows how many other people have the same one from that from that day. But uh, and it was only thirty one. A bargain, baby, I loved it. That's incredible. It's always gonna get a bargain for something that's gonna be on the body, on your body for the rest of your life. That's why I looked at it.

But anyway, this has been tattoo talk with Dan, and maybe next week we'll tattoo a little bit less. Maybe we will. I like that, all right, see you later. Follow help buy Suck at Dating on I Heart Radio or wherever you listen to podcast MHM.