Calling the Love Line with Shushanna Mkrtychyan

want to miss that. We have her again here today to help us handle some callers that are calling in with some dating questions. Um, looks like, actually we already have our first caller in the room with us. Emma, how are you? Can you hear me? Yes, I can hear you. I'm good. How are you great? Oh? I'm so good? Thank you so much for asking. UM, what's going on? Emma? Well? I had to leave a date with a guy I really like. I Uh, I thought

I was going to my pants, I know, embarrassing. I was so ready to go home with him after dinner. I wore imagining set, I shaved everything and all of a sudden alarm bells went off, and I knew if I didn't leave right then, I was literally going to ship my pants. Okay, interesting, So so what did you do? So now he thinks that you know, it was a problem with him, and I don't know how to reassure him that it was not in any way his fault that I left. I don't know how to handle this.

I mean, I'd love to keep seeing him. He checks all my boxes. And can I ask you a question? Sure? What was the read like when you you said he laughed? Did you explain anything? Did you say anything? Are you just like peep out? I'm out. I said that my mom called and I had to go help her with something, and I know it was kind of a stupid lie, but I didn't know what to say in the moment. I just really needed to use the bathroom. Okay, do you want to go first? And you want me kind

of say what I was excited. I was excited to hear what you're going to say, because I I just think it's funny. I know it's like there is a little more gravitass to the situation, but I want to hear what you have to say first. To be honest, Like, I think he would appreciate this the most. Like if you do reach out and say, hey, do you remember this time when we were on a date. Um, I kind of want to say, like there's something that I was a little bit dishonest with you, and you would

totally understand why. And I would just literally say exactly what you told us exactly. I think he would. I love that so much. You would appreciate it so much because there's nothing embarrassing, absolutely nothing, It's a natural thing. I think it will be like a cool story how you guys mad and what actually happened and why you have to leave? All right? I think I could Yeah, I agree, I agree with that. I think it's you

could take like a humorous approach to it. It is like a little embarrassing obviously, but I think if you tell him that and you can kind of gauge his reaction, Like if he laughs about it, great, that's kind of what you're hoping for. And if he, for some reason, crazy unbeknownst to me, he like has a bad reaction to it, then it's like, okay, well maybe if you had a sense of humor, this could be more of a thing. But I think it's kind of like a

win win. It's like a way to like kind of vet him a little bit, you know, like a filter process. So I mean, I don't think you should be like ashamed of it at all. It happens to everyone. I think it's hilarious and I think that it's great that you can call in and laugh about it now. Um, but yeah, I think I think you just tell him and be like, this is the situation, I'm sorry, let's try again, or something like that, you know. Definitely, thank you, Yeah, well,

best of luck. We hope you maybe take some uh what's the one that like blocks you off? There's x lax that that loosens you up, and then there's the other one. I don't know what it is to take some of that beforehand, maybe some pepto bismol and and give it another shot and I'm sure it'll be great. Thank you, Thank you, Thanks Emma. That was good advice. Shshanna,

well done. Um. Next up, we have Mia. That's funny because Hannas said we have am i A. So I didn't think that Mia was going to be joining us, but it's Mia is joining us. Can you hear me? Hi, thank you for joining us. How are you doing good? How about you good? Thank you for asking? What's going on? Not too much, justin joined the day, just getting some stuff done? Nice? Well what can we help you with? So? Okay, my question for you guys is is hiking on a

first date a good idea? Absolutely? Yeah, I knew Shoshanna was going to be in the vein of that. I agree. Um, is there more of the question or is that the only question? So basically, there's this guy that I've known for a couple of years. Um, but we decide it to you know, maybe try going on a one on one. I guess it's a date, but you know, um, And so the plans to hike for like a solid day. Uh, it's like a hard hike, but both of us are

in really good shape. Um. But I'm not sure if it would be weird as like a first one on one date or hang out I guess um or I don't know what you guys think. I think any type of date where you have something to do other than talk to each other is great. And hiking is kind of that same way where it's like you can like when you're hiking, it's perfectly normal to just kind of

be quiet and like enjoy the hike. And so if there's ever like a little in the conversation, it's not that big of a deal versus like if you're sitting at a coffee table and no one says anything for five minutes, gets kind of awkward. So I think hiking is one of the best first dates you can have because you're outside, you're in nature, You've got to talk to each other and still got to experience each other's

company and like bet each other in that sense. Um, I think hiking is one of the best for states you could kind of think of you. I totally agree.

I've done in multiple times. The one thing that like you did mention, Like you guys both arow in really good shape and you go for something really like a hard a difficult hike to do for me, Um, I think that's probably sometimes not the best choice, just because like you out of breath and you like try to get to know the person, um, and it's not always you can talk unless you're like taking a little short breaks, you know, to have a snack a water and then

you to catch up on your broath, you know, and Chad, But it's I guess it's personal preference. If you both want to go hard and just do it, that's pretty cool. It's something definitely to go back and remember, like your first day one on one was on a really cool hike, but I personally prefer like something a little bit more, probably less challenging, and just so you can still be outside, so still the outdoorsy stuff and also get to know

each other and have a little chad you know, mm hmm, totally. Um. Yeah, I'm super competitive and intense in that way. So hiking to me is you know, I love it? Um, I think you know. Another thing I was thinking about is like we're going to be stuck on this hike, you know, in the middle of the in the middle of nowhere for however many hours? Is that like what if if something goes wrong or we end up like not really getting along one on one, I'm like stuck with him.

What do you guys think about that? Yeah? What do

you think? Because I think the girl's perspective is more important, and so that's what I'm saying, Like, I'm very competitive too, but then I don't want to put someone else who like said he's very competitive, and then we both like trying to like challenge herself on the first day, so I would probably, like, like I said, I probably my advice would be just maybe pick something like a shorter you know, maybe two or three hours and um, and if you see that really goes, then you can do

something very long and like spend more time with each other instead of just like being in silence and hiking for ten hours, you know, so maybe shorter hike, something more comfortable for both of you. Then you can just take a break and enjoy the nature, you know, to spend a good time together instead of just like trying to compete for who's about a hiker all the day or something. Just just don't go hike campbellback, according to Shoshana, because it's too challenging. But um mai, thank you for

calling in. We appreciate it. Best of luck and sounds like a good first date in my opinion. Thank you guys so much. I agree, Thank you. Thanks all right, Next up, we have Casson. I believe is the name. Can you hear me Casson? I can, yes, Thank you guys so much for taking my call. Yeah, of course, thanks for calling in. Am I saying the name right, is it? Yes? Yes? Nice unique name. I love it. It's very what's going on? How how can we so? Uh? So this girl, you know, I like, um, she never

texts first. You know. We we've gone out on three dates. UM, no sex so far. Um, we've made out heavily, but that's it, you know. Um, but this girl never texts first. And I don't like that, you know? And do you think that would mean that she's not very interested? And do you guys think that the guys should always initiate? And if so, for how long? Yeah? Well, Sean, I went first last time? So how you go first this time? Him? So, I always have like whenever people ask me questions, this

is we're I'm going to asking questions. So whenever you do ask her to go on a date, does she say yes? Or does it take her time, like to like a long time to get back and think about it. No, on the three dates she's she said yes right away. Okay, I I think there's um, I mean, it looks like she's interested. So if um, um like having a hard time, do you want her to text you for? Do you want her to ask you to go on a date? Like? That's one of the questions like what do you like?

What do you want her to? I guess to do? Have you tried to express that? Would you know what is missing there? I guess between you two. So I mean, obviously it's still new, you know, but for me, I would, I would. It's it's nice to be, um, it's nice to feel like I'm being chased, as well as as the chase, you know, the chasy so you know, so I guess that's kind of what I'm hoping for, is a you know, maybe a little bit more back and forth. But I also know that, you know, it's also new.

Maybe I'm being eager, you know. I feel like, how about you just like literally ignore her for a few days and see how she feels that. Like, I think the girls are really weird when we see like someone who's texting, Oh, like he's text and he's texting, Okay, I'll say yes, I'll go, and then suddenly like there's

no text it's been a day, one, day two. Then I'm going to be like, Okay, let me see what's going on, you know, like maybe you should give like that little space, um, just to see if she's really interested. She will text you. Yeah, that's true. I do gotta say I can empathize with you, Casson, because I have been in a situation many times in my life where I really like a girl, but I feel like I'm

the only one making an initiative to hang out. And it's a crappy feeling, and in a lot of ways to it kind of like makes you more interested in them because you're like, well, why doesn't she text me first? Why does she never want to plan dates? And so you kind of like go above and beyond. But I agree with Shashana, like, maybe uh, take a take a take a couple of days off of texting her and see if she reaches out, and if she doesn't, then

like maybe you kind of have your answer. But also like it's not that crazy to like speak up and say something, you know, like if you want her to be more proactive in terms of planning those things you like on your next day, you could be like, well, I just wish you know, you would take the initiative sometimes, Like that's not that farfetchittive an idea, I don't think, um, But I do want to say that I empathize with your situation because it's not a fun one to be

in and especially like if you really like the person, you know what I mean, Like you want them to like you back as much as you like them. So I think that, like she Shawna said, take a couple of days, don't text and see if she responds. And if she, I'm sorry doesn't doesn't respond, but see if she like takes the initiative on her her own, and if she doesn't, then you can kind of like keep pursuing.

Of course, I don't think that's like a reason to stop pursuing, but I do think it it kind of helps put into perspective like maybe she's not making you as much of a priority as you'd like to be, and that could change over time, but in the in the immediate future, like it's maybe something that you should consider, you know, yeah, I agree. I feel like just to

add to that too. So taking that like a few days break, um, if you see like she's actually not getting back to her, like you can always send a text and say, hey, I haven't heard from you for a few days. I hope you're doing well. If you have any time or you know, you hang out or like you're interested, like let me know and if you see, like it depends on her response to if she's like, oh, yeah,

you know, something being happening blah blah blah. I feel like communication if you, um, if you're missing that, it's so hard to keep asking for someone to communicate with you, and UM, invest some time and you so it probably will be for you to decide what you know, if you want to move forward with that person or not. But definitely give some time. And if she doesn't reach out, then reach out and kind of express yourself like being said, and see where that goes. Yeah, okay, perfect I I

that's a great idea and I really appreciate you guys. Yeah, of course, cass And thanks so much for calling and we appreciate it. Best of luck with the situation. I'm sure you get all figured out. Thanks so much again. Thank you. Right, all right, Well that's gonna do it for Thursday's call. Her episode of Help I Suck at Dating, Shoshana absolutely crushed it. Um. Thank you so much, Shanna for guests, I was seeing these last two episodes with us.

You've been fantastic. I want to get out to Salt Lake with Kaylin and we can all go skiing or climbing. My friends would love to have you guys here. Have a really big group of people that do a lot of adventures and go to National Park. So please visit any time. Nice, do you I take it you ski, yeah, because you live so close to the mon I snow worried, but I haven't been. I didn't. Yes, I've tried this year after fourteen year skiing, and I saw it. It

was terrifying. It's so terrifying. But I'm going to try this year. So we'll see. Well, as long as you're having fun, because Kaylin is just learning as well, and I, um, I try to have patience with her as she learns, but it can be challenging sometimes. So maybe you know, you guys can go up together. Well, she's she's good. I'm under under I guess telling how how good she

is for how little she ski. So it would be great if we could all get out there and ski or something and maybe when the weather warms up, in the climate or something. And I feel like breweries, Um, we have Willi Co brewers in Utah too, so like, so we can do that. I meant to ask you actually on Sunday's episode. Um, because Utah is pretty well

known for its Mormon population. Have you noticed any like is there any like like drawbacks of living in a state like that, because I know, like the Mormons don't drink alcohol as much and they don't tend to like go out on Friday nights and stuff like that. Has that ever been like a roadblock for you in terms of dating? People will probably judge me for this, but it doesn't say, you know, elthings a Mormon on your driver license right with you buy alcohol? No? No, no,

so no, absolutely not. I think it's like a religion is religion. That doesn't I mean yet there's like restriction in terms of like you cannot have I alcohol. All the liquor stores closed on Sundays. Um. But I mean if you want to from I don't know, want to just started day, everything is open, right, It's pretty successible in that way. But no, absolutely not not interrom some dating not ine term so um, going out and drinking

everything is pretty much the same. I'm actually impressed, like how many breweries we have in Salt Lake, you know, and they're pretty good ones too, So yeah, nice, that's good to know. All I know is Caitlin's uncle moved to St. George, which I think the LDS per capita is a little higher than Salt Lake. And he lived there for a year and he was like, I can't do it anymore. I gotta get out of here. Different. I love Salt Lake. Yeah, yeah, Saint George is different.

It's a little it's a little uh not necessarily in the like the in the uh what am I trying to stay like in the farmlands more? But it is. It is definitely a little bit different. But um, yeah, I love I love Utah just as a state. It is one of the most beautiful states in my opinion, in the entire country most definitely. But um but yeah, we'll get in touch. Hopefully we can ski or climber or hiker do something in the near future. But thank

you so much for joining us. We appreciate it, and hopefully this podcast leads to some of your gym members finally taking the initiative and approaching I hope I'm not going to be overwhelmed. Just I am a feeling you are going to be overwhelmed. There's gonna be countless guys chomping at the bit to get to you. Um, but thank you again so much. Get those fingers healed. Best of luck in your competition, and we'll talk to you soon.

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