Been There, Dean That: Ciao Bella in Italy

Hello everybody, and welcome to episode eleven. I've been there, Dean that, we've been there. We dean that, we dean it and we bean it.

We've been it and yep.

We've deaned it. We've seen it when we dene it, and we've bean it all. We still have so much to see and so much to do, so much to bean, so many beans. But today's episode, we're just gonna go back and dean what we've already seen. So we're gonna do a quick recap of our trip to Italy.

It was glorious.

We just got back last week. But we have also been to Italy several times before this, and so I just figured we would include all of our Italy destinations in one episode, just the Italy episode.

I'm gonna be honest, our previous trip was a lot better than this trip. Not that this trip was bad, but that trip was amazing.

Yeah, that's kind of all. I decided to just do this with all of our our trips because we've been three times. Do you know that.

Oh yeah, we went to Venice and Dolomites.

That's right. So back when Caylen and I first started dating, or in the early days.

In like week two maybe.

Yeah. I remember after I asked her to be my girlfriend on Bachelor in Paradise, I was like, oh, I actually want to Spain in Italy for two weeks, like tomorrow, and we were still in Mexico and one of the producers was like, okay, obviously like you can't do that, and I was like, well, no, I'm meeting friends out there. I have been planning this for months. I have to go. And he's like, okay, well, then just don't be an idiot by kaylen and plane ticket to come join you.

Would you have not thought of that if the producer didn't tell you, I.

Probably wouldn't have. I probably would have just gone and been like I'll see you when I get back. Don't don't do anything stupid.

Shout out to Bill.

No, it was Todd, I believe.

Wow. Shocking.

Yeah, So Todd. Todd was like, don't be an idiot. Just take her to Europe with you. And I was like, oh, fine, I guess that's probably the best.

No.

I was like, well, I was a guys trip, and not that it was not that. I just didn't think of it. And so I was like, like, you know, in the mindset in mode for a trip with my guys. We did a couple of things in Spain.

It's not a guys trip because he brought his girlfriend Jason.

Yeah, remember, but he was that car ride. I do remember that car r but he wasn't like that. I wasn't going with him. He just happened to be there at the same time, and so we met up with him. I was going with like Justice and all his friends. Remember all those guys from him. Yeah, and then I was meeting up a chat and Italy later on.

Anyways.

Yeah, so thank you Todd for convincing me to buy Kilen a plane ticket. It's crazy to buy a girlfriend you've been dating for two days a nine hundred dollars plane ticket to Europe. Worth it for you?

You?

For you obviously. So what did we do? We flew into Venice and we what did you think of Venice? Let's start there. How did you like Venice? Italy?

I we I haven't traveled as much as Jean, but the more I traveled, the more I realize, like the places that are super hyped up, places like Venice and Paris are never the ones that I'm like, I end up being the most excited.

About you love Paris though I do not like.

Paris, but like Venice was cool. It's just it's hard going to a place that is so torsty because it's exactly that. It is so touristy. You're not getting like super authentic food. You know, its price overpriced. It's catered to Americans or tourists in general. So Venice is fine, it's beautiful, but it's not my favorite city in Italy.

And at the time, though you were in love with it was I Yeah, you're like wide eyed little girl, first time overseas.

That was not my first side.

You have this great new boyfriend that's willing to show you the world. I can show you the world. Yeah, and you took my hand and jumped on my magic carpet aka my mustache.

M hm, it's gone then.

And then yeah, the.

Rest is history.

So what did you think of Nis though, let's fill it. Let's go through Venice real quick. What was your highlight of Venis highlight?

It's gorgeous, I think getting to see it and you're just kind of on the water. It's a little stinky, but it's beautiful.

It's a little stinky. That water gets a little gross.

Yeah, but it's really cool and I don't know if that will ever go back. But there are places that we miss, like really cool restaurants that are just overlooking the water. Like there's one that's a little key hole or archway and it's just you and that person like sitting there on the water. It looks very intimate.

And cue I showed it to you recently, but we didn't do that.

We didn't, so there's like little parts that maybe we missed. But also that little boat ride we took into that other town, I really liked that.

Yeah. I actually was just looking up on all the places we visited in Italy and I totally forgot about that. S right. Anyways, Yeah, we took a ferry over to a small island. I highly recommend. That was a good day because you get to get out and see. I believe the island is called Morano. If I'm not mistaken, I found it. If I'm not mistaken, I believe that's what the island is called through my diligent research. But yeah, all in all, Venice was It's cool to see and

Here's the thing. We have been so spoiled going north to south and hitting like the major spots that that was my first time in Italy and I had a great time. But then going to other spots, I'm like, oh, there are like so many cooler cities. But when you think of Italy, I think the most popular destinations are Venice, Rome, Sicily. Maybe sure, I don't know, but I love other cities that will get to.

Yeah, so let's just move on from Venice. If you have the chances to see Venice, go and spend maybe two or three days. I would say three days tops. Two days is probably a good amount of time. Just walk around and do a gondola ride.

Eat some food, or do a gondola ride.

I don't think that we did.

We did one in Vegas that was nice.

It was kind of like we were in Italy in Venice. But yeah, two days, three days tops. It's a cool city. We're not like big museum goers. I think maybe if we were more museuming we would probably like it a little bit more. Who knows. But fast forward a couple of years, maybe two or three years, we then wanted to do a trip out there for some reason you got to deal with the Hotel Oriental mand An Oriental in Lake Como.

I think I was just reaching out to hotels and they said yes, and so I was like, I've always wanted to go to like Como. So that's why we went out there, I think.

Yeah, I can't remember exactly why. I think maybe our friend invited us, or we just happened to be out there at the same time.

Yeah, we were just out there and we didn't buy return flights and so we were just out there and we didn't have a plan. So we flew into La Como.

Yeah, well we flew into Milan Milan, and then we rented a car and drove up to Lake Como. In Lake Como is maybe one of the coolest towns I've been to in a long time in my entire life.

I do wish we spent more time there because there's so many, so many spots to see. There was like one little like beautiful hotel that everyone goes to, and also they shot Star Wars there, like a bunch of spots that we didn't get to go to, So I'd love to go back.

I still feel like we saw lot, like we got that classic Alpha Romeo car and got to drive that around ran out of gas. Do you remember that?

Oh?

Yeah, that was a fun little car. It was like a nineteen sixties Coop convertible that was just like fun to bounce around on.

Yeah, that was really cool. If you have the chance to rent a classic car, it was. It just felt like we were in the fifties. Yeah, and Maylen Monroe and James.

Dean, I don't know, you're asking the wrong guy. What else did we do? And then we went We took a speedboat out for like four hours. That was fun.

Yeah, it was. It was really fun because they didn't have a driver, and they were like, you've driven a boat before, Dean, right, And Deane's like, yeah, Dean had never driven a boat before.

I had. I had like taken over the reins from the driver of a boat, like while we're already out in the middle.

I never like docked or done you know, all those things. So it was cool to like a full private experience. And normally private boat experiences include a driver a boat driver, but it was fully private.

I'll take free range any day of the week if you give me the option of doing it myself or having someone else do it for I'll do it myself every single time. Even if I don't know how I know how to drive a boat in theory, I guess I've never actually like practiced, so that's why I was kind of like, yeah, I can totally drive this boat. But then they're like, okay, cool, here are the keys, bring it back before five. I was like, oh really, okay, great,

Yeah. It's more so just understanding other boats, I guess.

Yeah, which is what I was telling you the whole time.

You're like, so what I learned from you?

You were all so who knows it if it's actually real or not. You were like freaking out the whole time, and I was like, just just relaxed.

Sorry, what me?

Just how was I freaking Let me have my moment?

Are you serious?

Yeah?

How was I freaking out?

You're a little scared girl. No, you're going too fast. You're getting too close to boats, which I wasn't but no, okay, maybe that's not true. But anyways, it was fun. We rode the boat over to remember that like little bridge with the waterfall in the back. Oh yeah, that was gorgeous, so beautiful.

That's the only time I freaked out was because you told me to drive the boat and I didn't know how to drive a boat.

Yeah, I wanted to do a dive off the boat in front of the waterfall while Kaitlyn took a picture. But there's only two of us on the boat, so I had to jump off the boat, make sure that she knew enough about the boat to not let it like get away too far right, and then also like take the picture and run back into the seat. So it was a lot of work, a lot of coordination involved,

Yeah it was. It was pretty warm, and it was shoulder season, which I loved. So that's what I don't like. I don't like big crowds. I don't like a ton of tourists around, and shoulder season was great because it felt pretty empty.

And I do want to mention real quick. We flew into Milan. I know I already mentioned that, but we were driving up as like a late flight. We landed at and then we had like a three hour drive or something like that.

We're so hungry.

You knew it wasn't gonna talk about. We stopped at this like truck or stop, and we, you know, our first time in Italy since the last time we're there, which is like two or three years before that, and we just stopped at this trucker stopped just hoping to get like some chips or something. But they were serving like food, like real food, like pizza and pasta and stuff. And we got pizza and pasta and it was some of the best to this day, some of the best pizza and pasasta.

Wine, best pizza. It was so good and I was like, wow, starting off on a high.

Yeah, some random truck stop. We spent couldn't have spent more than like twelve bucks total for yeah, a couple couple, couple plates of food.

It was awesome.

And you had some wine. I didn't because I was driving right right. Yeah, but yeah, Lake Como was awesome. I definitely highly recommend it if you're thinking about it. It exceeded expectations. I believe you after going there, you said you wanted to get married there, and.

I feel like we were really considering it, but then we had to take into consideration our families and how expensive it would be to have them out there, like where they would stay, it's very pricey. I'm happy obviously with where we ended up, but yeah, I was just so in love with it. And I was talking to the Mandarin Oriental and we still at this little like side house, and they were like, this is usually where

Yeah, and like, not only is it expensive there, but just getting there is expensive. Yeah, So it was probably for the best that we didn't get married there, although it would have been amazing and if you have the chance to check it out. So then from Lake Como we drove to the Dolomites, which is some of the craziest mountains I've personally ever seen. It's kind of reminiscent to me of like the Tetons of Europe. What do you think about that?

I guess, So are the tea Tons that crazy?

Yeah, well you've seen the Titons, Yeah, but are They that crazy. The Tee Tons are very crazy, the most, in my opinion, the most scenic mountain range I've ever seen in my entire life. The Dolomites are just maybe a little bit bigger than the Tetons.

They're so big because it's it's Italy, France and Switzerland.

Yeah, yep, my geography is correct. Yeah, it's close enough. If it's wrong, I would agree with that.

But it's like it's so big. You've got the Swiss Alps, You've got the Dolomites. Yeah, the Italian Alps. Why don't people say the Italian Alps.

They do well? I think helps people are just more used to hearing the Swiss Alps, and.

It's just it's vast, it's so I I just think it's so much grander than the Tee towns. I think the Tee Towns are gorgeous and amazing, but it's hard to compare because it's so big.

Yeah, okay, let's say this. Then it's like the Tetons. If the Titans and the Rocky Mountains had a baby, it would be the Dolomites. Yeah. Do you know what the Rocky Mountains are in it? Yeah?

Yeah, But like so two small parents make a big parent.

No, the Rockies are bigger than the Dolomites, guaranteed. Yeah, so the Dolomites. We stayed at Hotel Hubris. Do you remember that hotel? Very cool? Hotel, very cool, and.

They're always we talked to I think it was the owner of the hotel and he's like, we're always trying to create something new, do something new, because they have this huge, huge, long pool overlooking the Dolomites and it's absolute gorgeous, like.

Jets out so there's like nothing above it, nothing below it.

Yeah, and you can see the bottom. It's beautiful. And so then he's like, we're working on a dual sauna and so it's called like Heaven and Hell. So they have that. Now I'm excited to see what they do next because it's a super cool hotel. Yeah, and it's very uh Swiss and German inspired.

I feel like probably well the food, yeah. I just remember going to like the because it was fall, early fall, I guess or late summer. I'm not really sure what the seasons are there or not there, but just in general, like one one ends. And so we went up onto the ski resort and some of those like the the chalets were open and so we got I remember just seating there, but yeah, and that was good. I really

That we went to another hotel after In this hotel, if you ever want to experience what it's like to be an influencer, check this hotel out.

Wow, why don't you get ahead yourself a little bit more?

Well, this was our next stop at the Dolomites.

I know, but we haven't finished talked about Hotel Hubris.

I thought we did.

Okay, we're done. Now let's move on to the next one.

What's that one called?

Do you remember the name chale l foss Yep. So we drove from the Dolomites where Hotel Hubris was, to another place in the Dolomites. I think the town is Vermiglio, Vermilio something like that, and it's a little closer to the border. Chale al Fos. Yes, it is influencer Heaven they set out like these insane like placements of like the food, and they have every little nook and cranny is kind of devoted to like getting cool pictures or like spoiling your partner.

Very very romantic and you don't have to be an influencer to go obviously. You can set up these little fun excursions. You can eat breakfast without pacas, and the outpack has love flower pedals, so they'll just kind of eat the flower petals off your table. Like you can do a hot tub at night with a little cute Chalet cheeseboard, floating Chalet cheeseboard, what else. Like they've got different cabins and same with them. They're always trying to do more and as much as they can.

Yeah, our friends just went and did a lot of the same stuff we did, but also the new stuff that they've had. Oh yeah, the only gripe I have with chalet al foss is. It just felt really gluttonous to me, Like it felt like they like I hate posting stuff like that because it just kind of makes me feel like I'm showing off in a way, and it is very like showy offie.

Yeah, I mean it's hard because a lot of influencers go so they do every single thing that they have to offer, Versus I think if someone who's who's not an influencer goes and they're just doing romantic things for their partner would be different.

True. And then one day I just want to mention this real quick. I did a via ferada over there at Ponte di Legno Deleno. I just am so bad at pronouncing these I did a China episode last week. You know, I was trying to pronounce a lot of the Chinese names, and I got a couple dms of like people being like, you are going to confuse so many people because you're saying the word and it doesn't sound anything like it's supposed to sound, and so I feel really bad about that. But Italian is kind of

And you're like, yeah, you know, I mean, I don't know from experience. No, I'm a safety girl.

It's so silly, it's such an egotistical thing to say, but it's so true. It's just I don't even know how to explain it properly. But when people like look at you and the like this guy's either an idiot or a badass, that's exactly how I want everyone to look at me, either stupid or bad ass. I'll I'll take that. And that took a couple hours. I can't remember how many miles it was, but I would say probably like eight or nine hours start to finish.

Yeah, you were gone all.

Day and then Charlie ol Fass. We left there, we went to Tuscany to meet up with Chad and some other friends. You loved Tuscany.

I love Tuscany. It's my favorite place. I love. Like Como, Tuscany is number one for me and like Como's number two. Uh. I just it's so beautiful, and I think for me it's crowds and just feeling like there's a lot of space around you. There's so much space. Again, it was shoulder season, but very few people. I just don't like being surrounded like a sardine around people, you know.

Yeah, hey, so you're preaching on the choir here. I hate that as well. We met up with them the first or second night. They were already there and they had an airbnb at like this old castle kind of thing. Really creepy, really creepy. The electricity like barely were but really, Yeah, the shower didn't work. There was only like one light in every big room, and so like it didn't really cast enough light to really light up the space. Yeah, and yeah, you had to like go through a bunch

We played Uno until three am. Loser had to jump in the freezing.

Pool and Kalin surprisingly lost and did it. Yep. I was shocked. I not in a million years would have thought you would have done that same.

I still can't believe I did that.

Did you do it again?

Yeah?

Nice, good for you. That's awesome. Even going into town, I remember their crowds weren't that big.

Yeah, we went to this really cool town center and I just I think that's my biggest thing, maybe since COVID. I just need space. Yeah, I need my I need people not to be so close to me.

Give yourself space and then give yourself the option to go into this city or if you want to and like get some people, get your time filled with that and then go back to your like on solitude.

Yeah.

Yeah, you're catching on. You're catching on to this whole traveling thing. I respect that. What else did we do while we were Tusky? I feel like we did.

We went to the most beautiful hotel, that's.

What it was. The hotel. Yeah. So it was our friend's mom's birthday, or it was Sophie's birthday. Yeah, so they all pitched in and got like this nice suite at the Belmond in Tuscany, and we like showed up without a reservation or anything, and we're like, yeah, we'll just get a room for the night. Had a big deal, and we go to like check in and we asked them if they have any availability and they're like, yeah, we only have sweets available right now, and so we

Like, we've never spent so much money on a hotel.

No, we've never had never will again. I never will again either. I think it was like two thousand dollars or.

Something like that. It was, and it was nice but for one.

Night though, and it was nice. I'm glad we did it, but I don't think I can't say I wouldn't do it again, because time and situation kind of really depends on that.

But it was also like not that they were pressuring us, but like knowing your friends are behind you, they're staying there and they're just kind of watching you, and you're like, shoot, do I put my credit card down? Or do I say, we'll find something cheaper. Not that they would have judged us, but it was a little pressure.

Yeah, but I'm glad we succumb to the pressure because we had a great meal. We took a cooking class.

Oh my gosh, one of the best meals ever. I don't eat red meat, but I had a little bit of the red meat that they cooked, and it was unbelievable. We made three different types of pasta, I think noki and two others.

It was so good, so good. So if you have the chance to say at Belmont for whatever reason, just enjoy it, because I passed up. It was maybe the best hotel experience I've ever had, top top five at the very least. So from Tuscany, they went down to Sorrento, which is like a Malfie coast kind of, but we drove, they took the train, and so we stopped at Manchiano.

I was surprised it really, And it fills up so fast. We got there for sunrise. We were there maybe twenty thirty minutes, and then it was full by the time we left.

Yeah, and like you said, we don't like being around people, So we got out of there as soon as we could.

When the people it's just so weird to be in a hot spring with a bunch of other strangers, is it? I don't know. I don't want to be swimming around with strangers.

You've been to a pool or an ocean or a beach, Yeah.

I see where you're coming from, but a small pool.

I don't know. You're right, I'm right, but yeah, No, that was fun. It was a fun love with You tour. And then eventually we made it down to Sorrento. And so for those of you at home that are keeping track, we started in Lake Como and we ended in Sorrento. That's a total of nine hundred kilometers, which is roughly, I want to say, six hundred and six hundred miles, a little more than six hundred miles, which is pretty far, really far.

Dan drove the whole time.

I did, because it was a stick shift and you haven't learned how to drive one of those yet. I wonder what the American equivalent of six hundred miles is. It's probably like here to Vegas, Yeah, Denver to Las Vegas. Maybe let's check this real quick, because we in America. It leads a bigger country than you realize, especially north to south. With why is it's not the widest, but it's a long boot. No, don't worry about looking it's okay.

Oh? No, but it was it was really cute.

Yeah, it was really cute. It was called the Maya Beach Experience and it was nice. Our friend's friend did all of the linen for the hotel, so they got a deal. I don't remember if we did or not. I think we did.

Yeah, we did, we did.

And it was nice. It was really nice, like a little cove that you kind of stay in. The thing I didn't like about my beach house was it's you can't get in and out of it easily.

That sound only you said, my beach house. I thing I didn't like about my beach house my beach house. Yeah, I agree. Hotels like that are tough because you go down this really windy, windy road, very steep, very steep, and so you can't walk out of it. You have to drive, and it's not easy to get in and out of a town. I like being I like both.

I like being, yeah, wildly being away from the town, but at least being able to access it easier, easier. Yeah, that one, like, there are so many tight curves you have to like if a car is coming down, then you have to get to the side or reverse downhill so they can get by you. Like, it's a lot of work to get up and out, you know, as opposed to just like driving up a hill regularly. Yeah, so we were there. We went to the town for dinner one night and ate on the water had this

Yeah, yeah, I remember, And they the woman when we left, gave us all these like good luck charms, like Saint Charles or something chimes.

Yeah that's right. And then yeah, I still don't even really know what you're talking about, to be honest, but I'm just going with it, and then I left for Alaska and you went to them to a Malfi, which is probably pretty fun.

Yeah, Malfi is only like thirty minutes away, I believe. I think we just took a cab to a Malfi. And again, it was Sophie's birthday, so she rented this beautiful airbnb like right on the water, like on the hill, but still you could see the water from your room. Very beautiful. A Malfi was great, but it's it's the same thing I've been saying. It's very busy. Malfi is another one that people are obsessed with.

But it's beautiful, right, so beautiful. I remember, so I remember driving into Sorrento because I didn't go to a Malfi, so I can't speak for that. But you like come in, especially from north to south, you come in around this bend and then like you're on like this huge cliff side that kind of like coves around, and then Sorrento's on the far side, so you're like looking over this coat or these cliffs at this city that's kind of

My entire life, so gorgeous. There's a town neighboring it, a Malfi that I like a little bit more. I think I just like quaintness, you know. But it was still a Mafi was just so beautiful and so gorgeous. That one was for being shoulder season was still very busy.

Mafi was.

Yeah, and it's also become one of those influencer centric places.

Yeah, did you guys go to Capri? You didn't you take a boat to an island or something.

I left the day before they went to Capri, which is a bummers.

And then let's fast forward out to this trip that we just got back from. So we flew into Rome. We were in Rome for a couple days and we stayed downtown at a hotel.

Called Olmita thirty six.

Ol Tima thirty six.

Almita Oh Malita Omalita.

Ol Tima No U l t I m A U m A l I t A. All right, you can put either of those in. I'm sure it'll pop up, a great little hotel, pretty well located. Rome is great because I typically loved the rent cars wherever we go. Rome is a place where it's nice to not have a car. So we took a taxi from the airport to the hotel and then we just kind of walked around from there wherever we wanted to go. And they have like a bunch of line and scooters and stuff that you can just hop on if you wanted to.

My brain was jiggled, yes.

Kaylen Jogler brain and she's never been the same ever since. But at the hotel was great. We walked to the Trevy Fountain. We had our Lizzie McGuire dreams come true. We walked to the Colisseum. I had my Gladiator dreams come true. We walked to a couple other landmarks that are escaping my brain right now, and we just kind of stayed near our hotel, ate some good food, went antique shopping. I'm staring at one of my souvenirs right now. It's about a two foot tall dog holding a stopwatch.

Okay. That's something about Italy. Their prices are so fair and it's so fun. It makes me frustrated about America. This antique shop we went to, all of the prices were so incredibly fair, and I feel like antique shops in America they just jack them up and call them vintage even if they're not vintage. But even in the airport, the prices were so cheap. I'm not over it.

It's like two dollars for a soda, which is in America it's like five dollars for that same soda.

Well, in an airport it's ten.

You say that, but you're exact. I understand you're exaggerated to a pre your point, but you're going a little too far.

Eight.

You're escaping the realm of reality and going into this what five dollars?

Uh huh. We were just at the airport. I had to buy an aluminum bottle of water eleven bucks.

I guess if you're saying that you bought an eleven dollars bottle of wine air bottle of water, I can't argue that. But are you do you promise look me in the eyes? It was actually twelve shut was it?

Really?

Do you promise?

I promise at lax Yes.

That's insane. It's getting out of hands. But you buy that same bottle of water one hundred feet before you pass through security and it's three dollars, you know, that's how they It's so frustrating. But yeah, fairly priced. I will say, even in the big cities, it's the pricing is fine. Every meal was still kind of expensive. But like, I'm sure, you get out of the cities and what was that recording? Yeah, okay, you get out of the cities and it gets way cheaper, which is nice in

First, the train station was great. They've got the train station in Rome has this little lounge, super nice, and they've got great guards that will help you and get your tickets.

Great guards, great great.

Guards, great great employees. But yeah, I loved the train station. It was so so easy and it was about a two hour and a half.

Train ride one hour forty five.

Yeah, it's super easy. And then we get to Florence. We rented a car. Driving around the town of Florence was so chaotic. I was so stressed in the passenger seat. But then we went to our hotel, which was.

I can't remember the name of it, but it was also similar to that hotel that we're talking about when we stayed in Tuscany. It was like an old castle, but it was like just a home for a family that then they donated to a school that then they turned into a hotel.

Someone DMed me and said that her mom went to school there and then they went there for their honeymoon, which is pretty cool.

That's crazy. It was a beautiful setting up on a hill kind of overlooking the city, but it just was a little dated in terms of like comfortability standards. I guess like the heating wasn't really working as it was supposed to. The mosquitoes kept coming in the it just it wasn't It wasn't nice, but it was a cool experience, I guess as well.

Yeah, yeah, the mosquitos really did it for us. We got eaten alive and we Yeah, it was a little brutal.

Yeah, the mosquitoes are not fun. But Florence is a cool city. We were just like, weirdly so jet lagged this entire trip. I think I don't even know.

If I could call it jetlag. We were just like so lethargic and just not motivated to do anything.

That sounds like jet lag to me.

No, but it wasn't. I've had jet lag before. I didn't feel like jet lag. We were just like not motivated. I think that's the thing. Yeah, I don't know. We were both in this weird place in Florence, so we'd go out a little bit here and there. We went to the town. We went to the wine window, which it's cool, but then you're like, oh, I just got a glass of wine.

Which I could do anywhere else, which I could just.

Go inside and make their jobs easier.

Yeah.

But I did read up on the wine windows, and they date back to the sixteen hundreds, which is crazy, and they only recently opened them back up, so that little factoid was I thought was cool, fun factoid.

We also took the car up to the lining tower of Pizza Piza, which was cool.

Could have gone without going there.

It was a long drive. It was maybe what an hour and a half.

Yeah, Also it's hard. I think maybe this is part of our lack of motivation. The weather kind of sucked, like it was so gloomy, it was cold. There was one day that where it was nice and sunny, yeah, but in Pisa it was pretty cold and chilly and gloomy, and it just like it's cool to see. Then you see it and it's like, okay, now we go home.

Yeah. Yeah. There wasn't really enough up there for us to like stay into, especially when you have another hour and a half drive ahead of you.

But the person we rented the car from, we rented from sixth and she wrote out a bunch of places. I don't think she realized how she wort our trip was because every place she put was like an hour and a half away, all in different directions. But there were really really cool spots like this cool farm an hour and a half away, so we just didn't have enough time to go see the cool spots.

Yeah, but it was still a good trip. Italy is great. We'll probably be back at some point in our lives. Like we said, Como, Dolomites, and Tuscany are probably my top three favorites. But I would happily returned to basically anywhere in that country if you ask me. In most cases, it's hard because, like I've getten to the point where I just don't want to leave our dog behind. I like our house in Colorado, I don't want to leave that.