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so it will be just me. But Easton and Mark have their cameras on um, which is a pretty rare thing, so I think that they're gonna do you guys want to chime in and say hello, maybe reintroduce yourselves. It's been a while since well Easton was here last week, but Mark, it's been a while since Help I Suck a Dating? A senior here. Well, thank you very much.

I'm happy to be here. You know, I'm an old school member of the Help I Suck At Dating stuck army from the beginning, and we're just reminiscing before we started recording about back in the day and how many years you've been doing this show. Now, glad you have been a part of it. Hey question, Um, you were in the studio. I think are you back in the studio? Sometimes I'm going in part time. Yeah, I'm going in like early in the week. Huh what about like, uh,

his secret still doing his thing from home. No, well, he's got the TV show in New York with Kelly Rippa and he has a radio show right there in the building, so he is in studio for the TV show and the radio show. How is it being in the office? Is it pretty like eerie? Yeah, it's it was weird. It took some getting used to, but then it's like riding a bike, you know, you remember all your old routines and you kind of start getting into that and it was kind of refreshing to be back.

But very few are back. It is still a very empty place, which is good. It makes me feel safe that I'm not surrounded by dozens of people all the time. Still a pretty much a ghost town. So it's been nice. I've been enjoying it. Action well, why why you even go into the office, though, Like, what's the point? Honestly, we're getting it gets into the weeds now. But we had a staff change. We had a guy leave. We hired a new woman to join our staff, and it

felt weird to me as the producer of the show too. Hey, welcome to the team. I'll never see you in person. It just felt wrong. I felt like I need to be there to help, to guide, to do whatever. So that's why I started going in. And for anyone that's listening that's maybe a little bit curious. The show he's talking about is help I suck a dating. That's right. We have a staff. Yeah, we're we're hiring a lot of new staff, some new producers, etcetera, etcetera. Takes it

takes a village for this podcast. Um, in today's episode, we've got some real hot topics that it's it's weird doing this with that Jared, because Jared uh is a lot better at I guess maybe feigning like interest about this so you know, like as bad as I want to talk about g G Hadid and Zane Malick breakup, Um, I just I just genuinely have zero input on it because I think I should feel required to, like, this is your podcast, can be whatever you wanted to be.

But see, but the thing about that is this, right, So again, for the listeners, a little bit you know, peek behind the curtain. Here we get you know, like a right up every week with an email saying like, okay, we're gonna talk about this. Here's some good thoughts started, some good questions. Here's our guest, here's some emails. I don't know who writes it. I I assume Hannah writes it. Um and it's it's you know, it's pretty well done.

It's pretty well thought out. So I feel bad like skipping over these things because there's a lot of effort put in on the back end. I mean, this podcast is centered around your shortcomings, like personally, like this is why of this show, So you know, don't feel like you have to talk about other people sucking at dating. You can just talk about something that you suck at. I think that they put these together in case you need it. You know, they don't want you to go

on the and you have. If you come in with eight different things to talk about, then you never have to look at the rundown. And that's how it is with the Secresh Show too. If he wants to go, then all my stuff can get set aside. That's fine. We're here for whatever you need. Okay, all right, Well, see guys are here then, and I need a lot for me today. So let's just you know, in in

true help, I suck at dating fashion. Let's just do like a round table, maybe real quick, and we can all say one thing that we've sucked at in the past week. What do you think about that? Oh, and it doesn't have to be relationship specific to it could just be like a life thing. I'll go first, one thing that I sucked at in the past week. Um. Maybe maybe we'll do like one superficial one and then we'll go a little deeper on a second one, so

that way we get a little warmed up with this exercise. Um. I I bought a new motorcycle a couple of weeks ago, and I, uh, we did the mirrors on it, and I didn't realize every time I turned the handlebars all the way to the left, it like knocked into the gas tank. And so now my brand new motorcycle has chipped paint all over it, and I'm really upset about that. Um So that's my superficial one. Uh So now who's next?

Oh man? Um okay, uh last night, we'll record this on a Friday, So last night, Thursday night, was the Green Bay Arizona game, and it was late in the fourth quarter, and it was a very good game, and it was very close, and my daughter was trying to talk to me, and I was not listening. I was giving lipsode because I was doing the whole huh yeah, okay, uh huh. And I did finally say to her, Honey, I'm so sorry. I'm not listening. What are you trying to say to me right now? Because I haven't heard

a word you're saying. So I did try to make it right and admit that that I sucked in that moment of being a father, and hopefully she won't hold that against me for too long, But in that moment, I sucked at being a father. There are definitely times where Klin is like trying to talk to me and then watching football or something, and I'm like, listen, it's the fourth quarter. There's like thirty seconds left. I just can't. I can't be bothered right now. I'll talk to you

whatever you need in two minutes. But that's is that? Is that a dick move? I don't think so. I hope, I hope not. At least shouldn't she meaning Kleen or

my daughter always be the priority. Um. The way I look at it is, well, well, the way I try to like at least spin into my own head is like the game doesn't care if I'm watching or not, you know, like they don't care, Um, but Klin will have a reaction as to whether I'm paying attention or not, and that will affect both of us positively or negatively. So I guess what's the worst If you just turn off the TV and walk away, what's the worst you look up and see who one later? Fine, doesn't affect

you really at all, right, right exactly. So that's kind of that's why I'm kind of against what we're doing, which maybe should change that at simple in our lives. But in the moment, it's just so hard, you know, it's really hard. You know. I've I've been I've been going to a lot of therapy over the last few months. And something that she talked about was she my there was like, who is the most important person in your life? And I said, my wife, Allison, And she said, that's

that's wrong. That's not the way you should look at It should be you. You should be it should be you, then your spouse and then your children, that's the idea. Um, and uh and I was like, no, no, that I can never put myself before my wife, and and she's saying, well no, because if your needs aren't met, if you're not taking care of yourself, you can't be a good

partner to this person that is important to you. So all that to say, I think you should focus on the football game, give it all of your attention, and then when it's over, you talk to your children, because their third on the totem pole. You care about the football game. You know. I say that kind of as a joke, but but also you know, you know, you guys are both looking at me like, Hi, yeah, that's a point, that's right, Um. But no, you know it did get me thinking about, like, um, when do you

when you prioritize yourself over your partner? I think that's that's something I think about a lot, you know, um, because I feel like I should every decision I make should be like, oh, how does this help Alison? How does that make me a better husband? You know I think about that a lot. But then, uh, I don't know, because I feel selfish every time I put myself first.

Do you guys? Got Yeah? I see what you're saying, and then you try to like spin it in your head and you're like almost feel guilty or by trying to spin it, right Yeah yeah yeah, um but uh um that I'll have to say, Mark, I don't think you're being a bad parents by by not listening at that particular moment. Yeah, the game's on. I mean they

get it, you know. On the flip side, don't you think it should be uh like they should be more aware of what Like you're like, you're obviously distracted, right, So don't you think that she should be like, Okay, maybe I'll wait, you know, five ten minutes before I asked this question or say this. I guess it was nothing crucial by the way she was. She wasn't you know, starting with fire or something, And that just emboldens my

point even a little bit more so, that's true. It was kind of small talkie, it was kind of just kind of random thoughts. So yeah, maybe, but but still, I need to be there, I need to be available. I was the only parent in the house of the time. Maybe it was out Yeah, I guess I get all that stuff. Um, we're you gonna say, no, I I just have this memory of I knew growing up that if my dad responded with how cool, that meant he was not listening to me. Yeah, there's like he just

like goes in autopilot, motor whatever. Yeah, exactly, It's like, oh, East is talking about some nerd bullsh that I don't care about. That gonna say how cool. That's pretty funny in the same vein of all that stuff. Eastern. By the way, thanks for sharing that you're going to therapy. Man, I appreciate. I appreciate that vulnerability there. Yeah, you know, um uh it's important and uh I uh, It's helped me a lot, and um, I think everyone should do it,

and I think a lot of people do these days. Uh, you know, and hey, if you're if you're afraid of going, you maybe try better help, give better help. But try We don't have a better help sponsorship, don't we. I don't think so, but we should have one whatever. We may be the only podcast that doesn't anyway. Um, No, therapy is important. And I started going to a new person a few months ago and she's been great and

I'm I'm grateful for her therapy. It's definitely something I feel like I want to get back into as well. I haven't done it. Uh. I think last time I went to therapy was like three years ago, two years ago, something like that. Um, I remember when you were going. Yeah, it was a good time. I just, you know, we had a great time. That's a weird thing to say. Uh, I don't know. I don't know why I stopped. I think I just uh I got distracted and I got busy. But like what am I busy with? I don't you know.

I just have to do this once a week. That's my only obligation. What can you do? Do it virtually? Because it seems like it would be hard for you, with somebody who doesn't live so much in one city for very long, to be consistently going. Yeah, Kalin does better help actually sometimes or yeah she does like once a week. I think something like that. It's not a bad idea. I don't know, I should probably look into it, especially the past. This is this is gonna be my

second thing that I sucked at recently. Um. This this end of October, I always get really emotional because it's the anniversary of my mom's passing, and I feel like I'm just very emotionally detached from like everything right now. So I feel like therapy could help me continue to work through those emotions, and I feel I just feel like I'm a crappy partner right now too because of it. So uh, I definitely need to get back on that

therapy train. I guess, well, this is shorthand, but this was a read it thread recently and it was what was the best thing you learned in therapy? And so I have the top like ten things that people said they learned in therapy they found the most valuable. So here's some shorthand for you, some quick therapy, and maybe this will help somebody when they hear these. So here's the top ten things. You don't always have to be okay. Trust yourself except that sometimes you will mess up. Let

go of judgment over things that don't matter. Ask yourself, why start your day with a good attitude toward others? Take your own happiness seriously. Self care isn't selfish. Speak up for yourself and fake it until you make it. Yeah, but a lot of those just kind of seem like like cliche statement. Yeah, just like everything that you see on like an inspirational poster as you walk into like your therapist office or something like that. Yeah, I agree a lot, but I do like, um, let go of

judgment over things that don't matter. I think we spend a lot of time concerning ourselves or arguing about things that do not matter. And I've always heard that, ask yourself, is this going to be a problem in a year, and if it's not, then just kind of let it go. And you're talking more like disputes between um people. Yeah, I feel like it just the whole worrying thing and the whole yeah, I disputes between people. Yes, yeah, I

guess I get that. I think a lot of people tend to hold onto things a lot more than they should, and I'm sure I'm obviously included in that as well. I wonder why that is, you know, like, like so many things that are just so irrelevant, especially in the big picture. I think people just seem to get so worked up about and I'm not talking and think, oh my god, I was so upset about whatever that was,

and you realize now that was meaningless. I'm always shocked when I'm upset about something and then like a week later, I'm trying to remember what I was upset about, and I couldn't even remember it, And I'm like, in my head, I'm like, if I can't even remember what I was upset about, how could it have been in portant enough for me to even be upset about it? You know?

So I think that's definitely something to consider too, where it's like it's it's probably not gonna have a long term effect, so it's like, why do you even worry about it? But I don't know, Yeah, it's it's it's strange. I don't I don't really personally get it, but it is what it is. I guess. Um, all right, well that was great guys, thanks for partaking in that round table discussion with me about things that we need help with. Because one sucker, I mean, don't you kind of piggybacked

off of yours Eastern go we need you to do it. Now. Let me think it's I have such a high opinion to myself, it's really hard for me to talk about this. Um I you know, I I we have this, um we have this piece of cable coming in from the street that is our internet connection, and it comes in through our basement through this really JANKI um like plank of wood that is like it's now open to the basement, so critters and other debris get in there, and because

of this cable getting in. I've told my wife I was like a week ago, I was going to um re connect that cable because I am an engineer and I know how to do that kind of thing. And I didn't do it, and I don't have any doing that today. UM so I sucked at that. I broke a promise to my wife, and uh, yeah, I sucked it that. That's I mean, that's a very valid thing to suck that. I appreciate you. Yeah, well, I don't you just go do it after that? Why don't just

do it now? It's not like do anything important. It's gonna take my internet down. And I've been putting it off because I'm afraid that if I cut it, I'm not gonna be able to fix it. That's something I even though I know how to do it. I have the piece. Actually, it's just this is all I have to install. Have the piece right here. It's a little like coax um barrel. If any audio before this, Yeah, it's a little coupler. I think I cut it and then re recrimp it. That's all I have to do.

But I would take two minutes, maybe two minutes, two minutes. You know, I don't know if this happens to you guys. I like a whole list of things that take two minutes that I like continuously put off because they take two minutes and then um, then they don't get done and it's like it's two minutes to get it over with. But this thing I'm afraid of really screwing up and

then we don't have internet, and that's that's my fear. Well, you know what they say, Um, you know, a hundred shores that take two minutes would take you two hundred minutes, that's right, and that's but just over three hours. Damn. Yeah. Yeah, So I mean I definitely see where you're coming from. Um oh, there was something I want to talk about, and now I can't really remember what it was. Eastern You successfully derailed my thought process here. Congratulations, um Gi

Hiti Saint Malick. You know, it definitely wasn't any of those things. It was more of just like a topical, lighthearted thing for us to talk about. Um, what are you guys gonna be for Halloween this year? That was that wasn't it? By the way, I just I'm just stalling for time at this point. Well, this is airing Sunday night Monday morning, so Halloween will have come and gone. So but I not going to be anything this year.

I don't. I kind of take my kids lead on that, although my oldest is going is Guy Fieri, which I think is hilarious. Is hilarious and she's what she's sixteen or something, fifteen and a half. Nice and so I was proud of that costume. I think that's great. And I think the other one is cow Girl Okay, very cool, very cool east and I feel like you've got something

big Planta. My my wife and I like doing couples costumes and this year we're doing I am Jessica Rabbit and she is Roger Rabbit and I dressed up was that for all party last weekend and um, I got to wear makeup for the first time ever and that was really fun and it really helped me understand the plight of the of the woman. You know. That's that's a lot of working out of you every day. God damn. Yeah. Well especially yeah, I mean I feel like I probably

got into a system, right. So do you have, um, your wife do it for you or do you do it? She did it for me. Um. So, like the craziest thing was, I got pretty thick eyebrows, and so what you have to do is you take glue, like regular glue from like you know, you're using school like a glue stick, and you just go over your eyebrows and then that makes it so you can cover it with

like foundation and block them off. And then you draw new eyebrows on top up because I've got this really big cartoon e eyeshadow because Jessica Rabbit is a cartoon character. And uh, then I have to wear the wig. You know, it's like long wig, and I have to wear this dress and I feel beautiful when it's all done. But it's quite the ordeal. And it was this not on your Instagram. Um Uh, it was for a for a second. Um. We we did it for this party and then we

couldn't get good pictures. So we're gonna do it for them for Halloween. Let's take better pictures, so we'll be on my Instagram by time this airs. It's okay. So for the listener, do you want to see Eastern dress as a sexy Jessica Rabbit to his Instagram page at

Eastern Allen at Eastern Allen, Allen. Spell of the y would big fan of the um like reversing, like swapping genders when it comes to a couple's costumes like that, like for instance, Kaylin and I are gonna be She's gonna be Willy Wonka and I'm gonna be Violet Beauregard. A couple of years ago, my my one of my best friends was uh Squints and his girlfriend was Polly Peppercorn, and then the very next night, I'm sorry, Wendy Peppercorn. And then the very next night he was Wendy Peppercorn,

and then she was Squint. They like they like switched um for the weekend. I'm just a big fan of those. I don't know why. I just think there's so much more fun they are they are because that's the best part about Halloweens. You get to become someone that you're that you're not, or someone you'd like to be, you know. And yeah, and you want to be sexy, Jessica Rabbit, I want to be sexy. I want to be an object so badly. That's all. Oh my gosh, well, um,

I can't wait to see the photos. Mark I guess we won't get to see any photos for you, Hanna, You've been silent the whole episode so far. Do you mind just sharing what you're gonna be for Halloween this year? I'm actually not celebrating Halloween. This year's dressing because I know I'm being really boring, but I'm at home visiting my parents and we're just gonna go wine tasting and NAPA. I'm not a fan of Halloween. I think I had a bad experience when I was in elementary school, so

I don't love it. Traumatized. Yeah, I was a milk carton and got severely bullying, so I'm not even kidding. I think. I think what you need to do as an adult now is be a milk carton and just like own take ownership over that, you know. Yeah, I mean I thought it was the coolest thing. I built it with my dad. I had the milk mustache, and no one liked it. That's unfortunate. I'm sorry that you had to go through that, but that's kind of the

beauty of be an adult, right. You can make your own decisions, and you don't have to celebrate Halloween if you don't want to. Honestly going out and drinking wine. It will probably be more fun anyways. Um, all right, well you guys, you know, I don't know if this is allowed, but I would love for you to stick with me through our guest interview which we have coming up. We have the lovely oh two people. Actually, Cuppy and Shiva are going to be joining us from a Tampa

Bays which premieres November five on Prime Video. We'll get to that later, um, but stick through this quick break. We're gonna bring them in and chat with all Right, everybody, welcome back to help I suck at dating. And as promised, I got Cuppy and Shiva from Tampa Bass, which is premiering November five on Prime Video. How are you guys? Okay? Um? Hungover but good hungover? You know, I can't lie. I

actually am very hungover as well. It's weird how just being hungover it just in itself just makes you feel like just like a shell of a person. You know. Oh no, but really, I really that's just my life nowadays. I feel like just like one perpetual hangover. You guys can tell me a little bit more about Tampa Bay's so basically it's just about a group of our friends. Uh, we're all lesbians. It's just kind of portraying our lives, our journeys, our stories. Um in Tampa. Yeah, we're always

you know, trying to have a good time. There's of course some drama, a little drama, a little bit of drama. So can you guys tell me, like how how did this show even? Like not like how did you guys come into the show? You know, did someone approach you

about it and they're like, hey, we have this idea. Um, two of our friends actually reached out to a few producers out in l A. And I kept getting nose nose nose, and then finally someone was like, um, this sounds awesome and that kind of started everything for us. Like that was back in nineteen Yeah, okay, all of the all of the Bays knew each other before filming, Is that right? Yeah, it's like our like kind of like our party friend group. That's I gotta say. It's

pretty cool. How Uh you guys just are like our lives are cool enough that we should have a film crew come and film it. And they were like, yeah, we agree, We're we'll be right out. I feel like that's like a thing people say like oh my god, like we need to have somebody follow us around and like that should actually happen for can you can you

tell me what we would expect from watching the show? Um, chaos, that's like a lot of there's like a lot of group events where we're out like drinking together, and then I feel like once alcohol starts flowing, real starts coming out. And you also like see us with our families and like that too, So it's kind of like a good

mixture of everything. I feel like people think it's gonna be this huge party show, which like there's a lot of that, but there's a lot of real stuff like relatable to absolutely there's all a self discovery that's for sure, Okay throughout the show. So how did your family and friends react to the show? Um, Well, like mine were like shook and like I still don't think that they think it's real. Like my mom's definitely on the show. She's on the trailer and she saw it and she

was like shocked. She was like she I cannot believe this is happening. And I was like, Mom, like you literally agreed, like you signed papers, like you let camera crew into your home, like you knew this was gonna happen.

She just like she's just like shocked that, like, you know, my life kind of a little bit of her life is going to be portrayed on television and um, especially like as a gay woman, you know, because my family is from Iran and over there, it's kind of you know, not accepted, you know, So it's just it's a lot for them on that on that end. Mhm, yeah, I can't only imagine what about you, Coppy. I feel my

family was like super excited about it. I think the funniest part about all of it is like a lot of my friends, like people I know at like work or like, oh, like you're gonna have to let me know when it comes out, Like bitch, there's billboards, like you're gonna know when it comes out. It's not like some like little show that like we like filmed on YouTube. It's gonna be on Amazon Prime Video, right, Like that's

definitely one of the bigger streaming platforms obviously, right. I think that people are just like underestimating it, and I think that's like kind of funny for me because like I feel, I mean, obviously I'm honest. So I think it's like huge, but I feel like people have been like downplaying it, So I'm excited for everybody to see it. Have you guys seen any of the episodes yet? Because it hasn't premiered yet. I lost that privilege. Did we

even have that privilege? We didn't have that privilege. I don't think we ever did. Um, we don't didn't see anything beforehand, so we have no idea how we're about to be for try to say, how does that make you guys feel stress you out at all? Yeah, I'm like I didn't. I was just being myself, so like whatever, I was seeing myself too. But like so I'm like really in the fitness, but I had like put on weight before the show, so I'm like, super, Okay, that's

really it. That's really, that's really it. I mean I have like no filter in general, so I'm not worried about what I said, but like there was times where I was like having conversations and I was like, oh I have micon still yeah and there and those are the juiciest ones too that they're definitely gonna oh yeah. My biggest thing with that stuff was like, especially when we're party. When your partying, I'm always just afraid of

like me being really like blackout drunk or something. And then I'm like stressed out because I'm like, what did I say that I don't remember saying or like doing, you know, and if you are parting a lot, I'm sure there's gonna be a lot of that. I blacked up twice on camera, So that's good. And you stressed at all about watching that back at all? Or two? It is what it is? What can you do? I though they can't do anything about it. There's nothing you

can do at this point. You're kind of like, well, so on the show throughout the entire season, we're gonna see you guys like go on dates and stuff like that too. Is Is that is there gonna be like a dating focus at all? I might have a little a little fling going a little bit. I don't know. I don't want to like spoil anything, but yeah, you know, I don't. I think I didn't. I think it wasn't really a date. You kind of see like a course of a little relationship, you know, unfold for me and

then maybe fold again, um old and unfold. You might see um copy trying to like put some moves on me. Um, yeah, I was just kidding and try to knock me out. Is there any dating among the friend group at all, like between any other friends? Um, there are three couples on the show that were like already couples, So there's there's a lot of that's a lot of people because there's YouTube, then those six and then and then let's not forget copies. Um also dated one of one of

the beys too, but they're just friends. Yeah. So one of my actions is on the show and I'm like best friends with her girlfriend. Okay, that's how you work. No, It's like it's like not even a thing. Everyone's I guess I'm weirre. It's like not even like a thing at all. I think it would be good. It'll be good because you don't really see many like dating shows, especially that just focus on like lesbian couples, right or

like LGBTQ couples. So to be good to kind of get uh more perspective on it, right, Like, are you guys excited to share that part with the rest of the world at all? Um? Yes? And then so yeah, yes, I mean the lesbian dating scene is just like something else. So like how copy was just explaining that you know her exes on the show and then she's like best

friends with the ex girls. Like that is so normal, like lesbians just like like you know, your ex girlfriend becomes your best friend and then like your best friend is like hooking up with your acts and it's it's just fine, Like it's it's just how small the community is, and like, especially in Tampa, like everyone knows everyone, Like I want to say, like everyone's pretty much dated everyone

or hooked up with everyone to like it. I mean people who are not used to like seeing that, or like you know, don't know about the lgbt Q like community and the relationships in that, Like they're going to be a little surprise for sure, Like it's something different. I don't think like straight people necessarily deal with those. I mean they do, but like not as often with those kinds of things. Well, I mean, relationships are hard

enough as it is. And then yeah, I feel like there's a lot of other pressures and scrutiny that you're faced with just for for for being a lesbian. I'm sure I can't even imagine, but um, I guess on the same on the same topic, what kind of advice would you have for uh, maybe like other lesbian or gay people out there that are you know, just trying to like figure it all out. You guys have any advice you guys deal with that on the show as well, or like what kind of tips and advice do you

have for them? My biggest thing is, don't try to like just because you see like one of these like cool tick Talker is doing like a thing or like a look like doesn't mean you, like you don't have

to look like everybody else. I feel like a lot of lesbians trying to sway to look a certain way to like get a girlfriend or to like be accepted, or like I'm seeing like these girls chop their hair off because they're like, oh, like the the memre masculine lesbians are getting more attendance, So I'm gonna do this, like just do you and you'll be fine. It just it sucks to see people like having to like fit a mold, and I think that was part of our

coming into the show. My biggest thing is like we like we don't really fit a mold for like the way we all look for like a lesbians and if you watch like a lesbian like movie or show. It's all. It's usually not like a fem looking lesbian that you see. It's usually a more masculine lesbian you see, unless they're watching porn. And it's like you can like literally look however you want to look and like be yourself and

be gay and be fine and it's cool. And I feel like a lot of people don't feel like that's acceptable. So that's like my biggest thing. Yeah, I think it's great advice also to add on that, Like, um, I feel like when people watch Tampa Base, you're kind of kind of going to see like you know, of course there's like drama between all of us and like, you know, we were closer maybe when the show started and after

it ended and things like that. But like Tampa and like the scene, the gay scene here, like it's really accepting. And I think that like anyone who's like trying to like you know, figure out themselves and being in the gay scene, they really need to like put themselves if they can, in an environment where there are other gay

people and they're accepting of it. Like I mean, like Tampa is just such a like good community to like be yourself, be diverse, like it's totally accepted, and like I hope people see that too as the show airs. But um, yeah, I would just say for people out there like trying to, you know, navigate through the gay scene, like surround yourself with people who are accepting and that obviously are also good people. But yeah, I think that's like the the biggest thing I would say. Yeah, I

think it's great advice. I think that's definitely a good place to start, especially if they're confused or scared or anything that. Um, are you guys gonna be watching the show back when it premieres or is it gonna be one of those things where you just like decide you don't want to see yourself on tv? Um, I'm definitely watching that. Absolutely, I'm definitely watching that. Like I don't even watch reality TV. I'm gonna can you watch this show? Are you gonna have like a watch party or anything?

There is? There is kind of one like some of the Bays want to throw on um like host one whatever. I don't know, and I might do it, but like I might not. I don't know. I think I kind of want to watch it on my own and the privacy in my own home, Like no one around me, so if like something embarrassing happens, I can just be like,

it's fine, literally be embarrassed alone. You're like talking about someone in an interview and they're like in the same room with you watching, and you're like, oh, this is oh my god, I evedn't think about that. That's that's gonna be the worst. Are sure we learned the term? I know, Dan, you probably let the Franken bite thing like, I'm terrified. Yeah, I literally have no no filter, and so I'm so terrified that I've been a victim of

the franken bite many times. I think it's unavoidable. I think reality TV is just one of those things where you have to accept the franken biting. And it's actually kind of guys, Can I get a definition because I actually don't know where it's where they use like different audio clips of you saying like it's like four different things, but they clip it together to make you sound like you're saying something like that. Yeah, they're totally gonna leaf

with that for sure. Like this, I would say, even when the mics were still on and the cameras were off, like I'm terrified, I'd like Oh, the cameras are off hading like oh this bitch, and I'd like pop off and I'd like, oh, the MIC's on. Yeah, you might get in some troble with that. But the nice thing is if you do say something mean or bad, you can always just blame it on the frank and frank in biting and you'd like the whole show on that.

My mouth is gonna line up to what I'm saying, and I'm gonna blame with I being the edited, the c g I or something. I don't know exactly what. Um. Well, you guys, thank you so much for coming on and sharing a little bit more about Tampa Bay's for the listeners out there. It's on Prime Video, premieering on November five. Um, what about you guys like Instagram handles? Maybe so the followers can go and check you out on there too. Um, I'm at coupy c U P p I E underscore.

That's my TikTok to um. All my socials are just my first and last name, So Sheba fish Dad, s h I V A p I s H D A D all my socials so nice. Well, So for the listeners out there, if you want to get more of Shiva and Cuppy, go to their Instagram or watch them on Tampa Bay's premiering on Prime Video November five. Um, thanks for joining us, guys, Yeah, thank you for having us. Ye are right, everybody, welcome back to help. I Suck at Dating And it's time for my favorite segment, as

always is emails. We only have one email today, so let's go ahead and change that for next week. Please email us at I Suck at Dating at I heeart media dot com. Um, send us some juicy dating stories, some questions. Whatever you got I suck at Dating at iHeart Media dot com. Mark, we got you. We got to use you. Man. Do you mind reading this email from Jesse for us? All right, Dan, thank you very much.

This is from Jesse. She says, long story short. I drink in excess a little more than I should, especially in a social situation, to ease my anxiety. My husband, before our wedding told my bride's Amaze to try to keep my drinking to a minimum the day of our wedding, but me being me, I kept drinking champagne to try to feel less stressed about walking down the aisle. I didn't want to get drunk like I did, but I will admit there were some times I don't remember a

lot of things the next day after my wedding. Overall, I think I was just a drunk pride trying to enjoy her day the best way I knew how liquid courage a lot of dancing. But now my husband and my family they were not happy with my choices. My mom told me I embarrassed myself and the family and didn't talk to me for nearly a month after. Since then, it's been hard for me to remember this day is amazing, even though I had a great time when those who

attended said it was great. I guess I just need some reassurance or advice on how I can remember this special day without the negativity coming into play, or am I completely in the wrong and I owe everyone a sincere apology. Well, um, I'm gonna I'm mostly gonna take a back seat on this one because I've never had a wedding and you guys have, so you can speak from experience. But I do want to just point out

one thing. Uh, it sounds like Jesse, you had a great time and your friends had a great time, and I think that's the most important thing. So Dean, if you've gotten drunk to the point of excess and possibly embarrassing yourself every time I drink alcohol, yes, of course, but I understand the gravity of a of a thing like a wedding, right, So I mean, what was your guys experience with their like, what kind of what's your take I guess, well, I mean, look, I've never been

drunk to that point. I've never been drunk period, but I did have a wedding. So here's here's my take out it this is the world we live in. Is sugarcoating everything that happens to us. That's Instagram, that's all. I have hundreds of family videos on the computer downstairs. Watching those, you would think we are the most perfect family with the happiest children that have ever existed in the history of the world. They have perfect lives and

they've never been sad and are upset about anything. That's what we do. So when you have the wedding, I'm sure you have video from the wedding and photos from the wedding. When you put those all together, it's gonna look like the greatest day of your life. And that can be the reality of it. Your mom is going to be a little bit more sensitive because she's your mom,

your husband a little bit too. But if your friend said they had a great time, I would just focus on that and watching that video and everything was hunky dory that day. Is that denial maybe, But that's up to you to determine how much denial that is. And if it's too much, you might want to get some help with your drinking or with the psychology behind needing to drink in social situations. So it's twofold, maybe look into that. But also, it was what it was. You

can't change anything about it. Now do your best to make it look as great as possible, and that will become your memory of it. Yeah, And you know, I was thinking, like it sounds like the mom is the only one that really like came to her and said you you got way to blast it at your wedding. But like, if if it was a real problem, like she would have had a bunch of other it would have been a parent like so many friends would have been like, hey, is everything okay? You know, like stuff

like that. But like it sounds like everything was fine. So you know, I had a great wedding. I everything went perfectly, and uh, and my parents had stuff to say afterwards, you know, things that they would have changed in differently. But you know what, it's not their wedding. It was my wedding and I had a great time. So that's the way I look at it. I really think that's the root of it all too. It's your wedding, and if you had a good time, that's all that matters. Right.

It's like your it's not your mom's wedding, it's not your uh, your family member's wedding. It's your wedding. So like,

if you have fun, that's the most important thing. And to Mark's point too, it's like, yeah, you might not remember everything, but you probably had a wedding photographer and you're probably gonna be able to look back at these photos and like relive the moments through the photos and I'm sure you're going to be smiling and laughing, having a blast and all those So, um, just keep those good memories. But I do agree, like, if you're drinking a neccess a lot and it starts to become a problem,

maybe you start to consider seeing some help for that. Uh, definitely not the worst thing in the world. I have some family members that have struggled with alcohol abuse as well. And uh, you know, it's never a fun thing. But as long as it's like social and fun and you're happy with it and you don't see an issue, that's

all that matters. Um, I will say to it's kind of funny how it comes full circle to what we were talking about at the beginning of the podcast mark where it's like, like it kind of matters, Like a wedding is a big day, there's no question about it, but like in the Grand scheme, it doesn't really like, no one died, no one's hurt, it doesn't really matter, right, Like, no, I'd love to hear some stories of what act really happened. But look, as long as she had a great time,

that's all that matters. Because really it's the bride's day. And yes, your groom should have a good time as well. I get that, and I don't mean to be sexist or whatever, but really it's about the bride. That's the day she has dreamed up since she was a little girl. If you had a good time, that's great, Just move on. It's okay. Plus, if you really want a second wedding, just get divorced and go marry someone else and do it right the second time. I mean, why not? You know?

That's that's uh, that's the tradition that we've built for ourselves here in America. All Right, well it's gonna do it for this week's episode of Help, I suck uh that that marriage? Wait? What's name of the podcast? Um? I am joking about that. Don't get divorced. Please, don't get divorced. Divorce is horrible, It's not good. I don't recommend it. Um. Thank you guys for co hosting this

episode with me. I appreciate it. We uh you know, we definitely couldn't have done it without yet brings me back to the good old days when times were a little tougher. I was out here doing this by myself, stuck on an island. Really really painful stuff. But you guys always make it a little bit better. U um, Hanna, thanks for writing the rundown for us. As always, big thank you to us, Shiva and Cuppy for joining us. Be sure to watch Tampa Bay's on a Prime Video

November five. Thanks to Jesse for having a fun drunk wedding and telling us about it. Keep emailing us I second Dating at iHeart media dot com. Um, let's do it live this time. I'll do the outro, live new things, be exciting. That that is exciting. I hope we answered Jesse's questions is sufficiently because I wanted to know that it's okay, and I was just rereading again I felt really bad. Um, that's gonna do it for this week's episode. Be sure to tune next week where maybe we suck

just a little bit less. Follow Hell I suck at Dating on I Heart Radio or wherever you listen to podcasts. That was magic. That's like watching Michael Jordan's shoot a three pointer for Tiger would hit a golf ball that was just unbelievable.