#6 Ghosting Stories

my future is headed. We're gonna talk to the producer, Mark's mother in law, who, according to him, is just not my biggest fan, and so we're gonna get that unique perspective. Um, it's gonna be fun. We're going to diving a little bit more into all that kind of stuff. I personally am a bit of a skeptic when it comes to psychic so it'll be an interesting conversation to have with all of them. But I think we're gonna start off by talking to Sandy again, Mark, the producer's

mother mother in law, my wife's mother. I mentioned to her that, oh, I've been doing some podcasts because she loves everything Bachelor. She and her mother, who's eighty six, they watched The Bachelor every week together and the Bachelorette and Paradise. They love it all. So is it? Oh do you know Dean? She oh, oh, I don't want Well, I think you should talk to him because I think he's a nice guy. He could maybe win you over.

And she said that would be fine. And when I walked in, Mark mentioned that his step or his mother in law, Sandy has been writing down questions as each with each passing day to ask me, taking notes all the things she wants to tell you tell me. Um, alright, so we're gonna get Sandy on the phone. I'm a little uh concerned with the questions that she might have, but I'm excited to speak with her if she's anything.

I mean, I can only imagine the type of woman that you would marry as an incredible woman, and the mother to raise that woman is obviously going to be great as well. So Hi, Sandy, Hi, Hey, it's Dean. How are you. I'm fine? Is now a good time for you to talk? Awesome? Well, thanks for taking the time to jump on the phone. You're welcome. So I understand saying to that you're not my biggest fan. I

am not. Let's talk about it, okay, Well, the deal is I don't miss any Bachelor's, Bachelorets or bachelom Paradise or anything the Bachelor Pad. I've watched them all. Okay, Um, if I had a daughter, well I do have a daughter, but she's married to Mark. But I mean, if I had a girl daughter, I would say stay clear away from Dean. Because of Bachelor in Paradise. The way you treated Christine and I thought was awful. So what specifically

do you think I did that you didn't like. Well, the fact that in the beginning you seemed great with her, You seem like a real cute couple. Then after that when Danielle came on the scene, Um, you were giving Christine the cold shoulder, but you weren't really telling her, Hey, I'm really into Danielle now. So you know, you should have cut off Christine completely and went for Danielle, or you should have not pursued Danielle while you were still

pursuing Christine. Sure, and of course, looking back and watching that all played back, I'm recognizing a lot of the faults that I had throughout the process of Paradise. Um, I do want to say that there were some things that maybe were omitted from from airing that. Okay, that might have I probably can agree with that, but of course that's no, that's no excuse by any means. You know, I definitely was acting like a goal throughout the entire

time on Paradise, and I regret all of that. But what I can do with that moving forward is I'm continuously learning and growing from that, and this podcast is very helpful and obviously your feedback is incredibly helpful too. So is that the sole reason that you have this strong distaste for me? He's the whole Paradise situation. Like when Mark said, oh, I've talked to Ben and I've talked to um Ashley. I am blah blah blah and

be nice at all. I don't like Dean, He's a player and um he said, oh really, so how would you like to talk to him? And I said I would I would like to. So anyway, what do you think you could have done differently on Paradise? I think you nailed on the head. I think I should have been much more direct with my feelings for both of them. Um. It was difficult for me because I mean the fact of the matter is I just like two people at the same time and I wasn't necessarily sure how to

move forward from there. And of course you know, I'm not making excuses from actions whatsoever. That happens to a lot of people on Bachelor, where especially when they're down to their last two or three, it's like they are in love with both people, you know, and then you have to make this major decision. But um, I got another question. Have you you been in a serious relationship before Bachelor? I've been in serious relationships before. And how long? Um? There?

They're usually hover around a year? Okay, okay. I don't know if you're gonna have me on any more Bachelor shows to see if I've improved at all. But at least you can subscribe to the podcast and listen. I can, and you have Mark here to kind of give you maybe like a synopsis of each week. But yes, I do. I feel like Sandy, I feel like with you. I have a long way to go. Um what do you do on a typical date? On a typical date? Oh um,

I don't know. I like to keep things light. I like to go out and have like, do fun activities, go karting, That's that's one of my go too. Where do you live? I live in Venice, California. And have you always lived there? I lived here for two years. And what do you do for work? I'm a recruiter for for like startup companies. Okay, yeah, and uh, it's no problem for you to go on Bachelor or Bachelor in Paradise and still maintain your job. Well, that's part

of it. I'm currently in the midst of a sabbatical right now because of the show. Um, but it's a lot of self discovery that I'm going through right now. So I think it's definitely I'm investing in myself right now, and I think that's what I'm trying to to take away from all of this is a betterment of self. Right. Do you talk to Christina Daniel these days? Um? Yes, I I. Christine and I have remained friendly, you know, we we we talk about quite a few things. I

don't know. It's it's hard because you know, first of all, she lives all the way across the country. Um, there's obviously a clear where Texas now. She lives in Lexington, Kentucky, but she's moving to Nashville, Okay soon. So there's there's a lot that we have to work on and it's it became very obvious, you know, watching it back through

the show. Um, but I think we owe it to each other to be civil with each other and you know, work through our feelings, whether it's platonically or romantically, whatever it is. Um, do you think you'll be dating her again? I don't really think it's up for me to decide. You know, at the end of the day, she was the one that was kind of sledded by me, and it's really up to her to decide whether or not

she feels comfortable with something like that. Okay, But Sandy, so you've been over married for over forty years, right, so do you have any advice on how to make a relationship work for me? Um? Honesty is one of the big things. Respect is another big thing. Um m hmmm, because forty years. I mean that's that's no small amount of time. You know, you're you and your husband, I'm sure are doing something right. I'm sure you're prop basically

everything right. But so honestly you respect, Yeah, I'd say those are the bigger things. And kind of always see what your partner is feeling and you know, help them in any way you can, and you know it's a two way street. You know, um, if they're doing something that really bugs you, let them know. Don't just keep holding it in and holding it in and holding it in. Because apologies don't mean anything unless you have actions to back them up. See, And that's something I'm personally working on.

Two is expressing my um concern about certain things. Because normally I would just kind of like sit back and let the let let the negativity unfold. But what I'm working on now is is kind of speaking up and expressing that I know, in the very beginning you had trouble with opening up at all. It's still well, a lot of guys do. It's It's just something that I've never really necessarily taken into my own hands to work on. But now I finally had this opportunity to do that.

But Sandy, when when you first met Mark, did you like him? Well? I did not like him. But he was eight years or nine years older than my daughter. She was seventeen or eighteen and eighteen, Okay, she was young,

and he had really long hair. And I remember he parked right at the end of our driveway and I thought, looking out the window, I can't tell which one of them is driving because his hairs as long as he and she had really long hair, and I know that she said, well, I said something about us meeting him, and she said, well, we're not going to the prom. That's what he said, like, well, we don't like, we don't need to meet him kind of thing. And I'm thinking she's an eighteen you know, so I kind of

uh freaked out at that. It's not that I didn't lie them. I really liked him once we got to meet him, but I didn't like his attitude of well, I don't need to meet the parents. I'm twenty six or whatever age was. And you know, I mean he I understand where he was coming from, but you know, I mean she's my daughter, and I, you know, was concerned about the age difference basically. So how long did it take you to warm up to it? Oh? Not long? No, Once we met him, he came for dinner, and then

it was you know, it was great. Like I tell people, now, I've got a son who's married as well, and I tell people I couldn't have picked better mates for my kids than they picked for themselves. I mean, it's it's what fifteen years later, fifteen, married, twenty together twenty together, right, so it's really hard to even say anything other than positive things about that. Yeah, nice, Well, all right, Sandy, Do you have any parting words of wisdom for me here?

Because I know I feel like it's not going to take just one conversation to convince you that I'm trying to improve and I'm I'm working on it. But do you have any parting words of advice anything like that that you can use for me to to maybe be just a better person in relationships moving forward. Um, I think just basically, the honesty is a big thing. Um, if you lie to a girl and she knows you've lied to her, then she can't trust you. And if

she can't trust you, trust is like everything. If she can't trust you, then you might as well just give it up. So, um, you definitely want to keep things on up and up and keep things open and um, you know talk, don't don't just you know, go into different room and shut off, and you know that's not

going to help anybody. So well, honestly is very important to me too, And although it might not have seen like that throughout Bachelor in Paradise, I do I'm a big advocate of the fact that you know, if you're always honest with your partner, you you're you're gonna allow them to love you for who you are instead of this this fabrication that you keep, you know, kind of lying about. So I went in with the method with the mindset of saying, I'm going to be brutally honest

at every moment um. You know, if I like another girl, I'm going to be upfront about that. But I again, watching it back, I can see how maybe there it was versions of the truth and it wasn't the total truth. And that's that's kind of what I think I personally have to work on, is just honest with not only Princess marked as that with Amy. Yeah. Yeah, all right, Well, Sandy,

thank you so much for calling in. Um. I hope for my sake and for for your sake that I can get better at these relationships and continue to work on them. Well. Good, I'm glad you're working on it. Well, have a great day. Thank you for letting me hang out with Mark every Monday. I really do appreciate it. All right, have a good day, you do by all right. Well,

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have a question for you. I keep getting ghosted. My friends all telling me that I'm just picking the wrong guys, but seeing as I'm the common denominator, I have to own my part in it. My question for you, Dean is this, if you were the ghost a girl, without any explanation, any reason, any argument, etcetera, what would your reason for doing so be? Kelsey, Well, kell see a

great question. Um. I also kind of appreciate how you flip it background on yourself because you're friends seem to think which the guys that you choose, But I guess it's it's you that's choosing those guys. So I, honestly, I almost kind of want to take your friends position on this one. I don't necessarily think it could be anything you're doing wrong. Maybe it's just what you're doing is attracting a certain type of person that's going to

be ghosting you. I think at the end of the day, the reason a guy ghosts a girl is because they don't necessarily see a future there with him, and they don't have the wherewithal two tell that person that they don't see that future because it can be a tough

conversation to have. I'm one that likes to avoid difficult conversations, and I think it comes from a good place, right like they're they're doing it thinking that they're doing the right thing, but in all honesty, you on the other side of it are experiencing it very negatively and it sucks. I've talked to some girls that I used to date in the past who I admittedly have ghosted, and an open and honest conversation about why and how I did

that coming back from them. You know, obviously it doesn't feel good. But I think that the one thing that you can do, honestly, you just need to find an older man. Maybe. I think that's really what it boils down to. A lot of the time is a lot of young guys in their early the mid twenties are scared to have difficult, difficult conversations because they're not necessarily UM used to having to deal with those hardships like head on. But an older man has been through that

process and bring through the ringer a few times. Um, of course you'll have your you know, your your instances where there's a younger guy who's willing to to kind of have that difficult conversation even if he doesn't like you. And I mean it's I don't even know, I'm just rambling at this point. I feel like, but Kelsey, I think that you don't necessarily have to change anything about yourself. Maybe just increase your uh, your barometer for what you

think is is useful to you in a relationship. You know, increase your standard for for finding a guy. Don't necessarily just fall into the trap and um, you know, be interested in the first guy that shows you uni attention because typically those are the ones that are gonna ghost you. I think raise the bar that's good advice. Question. If you've hooked up with somebody, does that make ghosting more likely or less likely? Hook up pal, well, I hooked

up hooked up? Does that make it more of a connection so you feel more of an obligation to have the conversation, or does it make it even more difficult and more likely to ghost. I think that once you hook up with someone, more emotions get involved, which again is the root cause for any ghosting. I think is to to spare both parties the emotions, and that that's

at least the central thought behind it. Um. So, Kelsey, to your point, maybe, I don't know if you're hooking up with these guys that are ghosting you, but I would say stop hooking up with them, you know, maybe spend a little bit more time with them, go on a few more dates, build that emotional connection before you build a physical one. I personally think that that would

help limit the ghosting, if not reduced it entirely. Um And I mean for for I can only imagine, you know, you get much more emotionally connected after physically connecting with someone as well, So it gets you, it builds you up to be broken down a little bit more as well if you get ghosted. Um. That's my advice. That's actually great, great point, Mark, Maybe maybe take a little bit more time before you begin the physical side of relationship and build on the maybe the friendly or the

emotional side of it first. Did you know that Ashley I was talking about you. Um, I mean this was on the almost famous podcast. Would you like to hear what she said about you? Let's hear because we like to hear your response to this. I learned this firsthand, um, just by being friends with Dean. Dean told me that he has never once asked a girl out. He has never He'll never ask them to hang out. He'll like,

he will never assume that they are into him. He needs to be like totally convinced by the woman that they are into him first before he does anything. Okay, So what thank you, Ashley? I don't know to thank you, but to set there to set the record straight. I definitely have asked girls out before. It's definitely not a common occurrence for me. Though to her point, Um, I think that what Ben is saying is is I do have a very distinct fear of rejection. And I think

that's kind of where that stems from. Is I'm I'm comfortable with being friends with someone for as long as it takes for them to feel comfortable to ask me out sort of thing, because I don't necessarily like to put myself out there just to be let down, and

I don't necessarily think it's a positive quality to have. UM. I think that when it comes to relationships, or at least like a pursuits of a relationship, I definitely I find it hard to make that first move and kind of break through that wall of going from friends to

two more than that. UM And I think I've noticed myself getting a little bit better with age, But looking back at like twenty four year old Dean, like when I was on like bumble or something like that, I would never I would never be the one that was like, all right, let's meet up and let's drinks. It was always a conversation that I allowed to just can continue flowing until that other person felt comfortable enough to to

kind of prop propose the idea. UM. And I think that's what I the conversation that I've had with actually, and I kind of, you know, especially talking to some of my friends who are girls who are on those types of apps, or I've been in the dating pool, all that kind of stuff. I think the constant theme that I continuously see with them is they're always saying that guys assume or guys are getting so far ahead of themselves and they're like all right to text into

a conversation of just meeting someone. They're saying, let's go get drinks, or let's go, you know, back to my house and watch Netflix or something like that. And I strive to be kind of the opposite of that. I want to to to be the the antithesis of the common data in that sense where it's like, I don't want to make the girl feel uncomfortable. I don't. I don't want the girl to be put in a spot where she has to make a decision um based on limited information. So that's kind of where I was coming

from with all that. That fear of rejection is causing real problems with young women. If I may well, is that when I talked to women, their biggest complaints are guys don't ask you out anymore. There was a time when they would. They don't anymore because of the fear of rejection. Guys won't make plans. Guys won't call it a date, they call it a hang, It'll call it a group hang, and they'll just make it so noncommittal that they can't be rejected. I can understand that, I

can empathize with that. I think that um speaking from experience, it definitely alleviates a lot of the pressure of what a typical I guess date would look like. UM. I mean I've been on both sides of it, you know. I, Like I said, I've definitely asked girls on dates before. It's not I'm not saying that I haven't. UM. I also have asked girls on like maybe more like friendly type excursions with multiple friends around. That way, everyone's a little more comfortable. There's a little bit less of a

of a possibility of rejection. Um. If and when rejection does come, you can be like, oh, that's my friend's faults were like, oh, it just didn't work necessarily with it within the friend group. So UM, yeah, I don't know what dating sucks. The good news is we have psycists coming up that can tell you why you're so afraid. I'm excited to speak with the psychics again. I'm a

bit of a skeptic. Um. My girl, my girlfriend from a few years ago, was big in the like palm reading and psychics and all that kind of stuff, and she tried to get me a go to go a few times and I never went. So I've never never actually spoken with a psychic before. And what's funnies, I know a few of the girls from nixt season when they were New Orleans, they went to to a psychic as well. Um and I just kind of always have scoffed at it, So it'll be interesting to see what

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maybe just what my future holds. Whatever. We're gonna take some collars and have some conversations about that as well. So to start off, we're speaking with psychic Danny, who is on the line. Now, Dani are you there? Oh? Dan, are you there? Hi? How are you? Well? You're already psychic? You already knew who it was? Um, great, so, Danny, So you're a psychic, right, So maybe what's the proper word to explain what you do? You can? That's fun and some people think it's kind of kitchy and don't

like to use the word. What do you prefer? I'm fine with it. I don't mind it at all, all right, Danny? Do you do you mind talking about your gift a little bit? How how did you come to to find that you're able to do this? Was it something you you've had since a child? Is it something that you've kind of learned how to do over time? Well, it's kind of a combination of both, you know. I always knew something was up, Like I just sort of knew things.

I never had visions or heard voices or anything like that. So I until I got older, I didn't really recognize that psychic ability could come in through sensing. It's called clear as sensions, and that's what I do. It comes in it's sort of a knowing, and as I got older, I just developed it and honed it more. Got it. So what type of training have you had? Is it all personal training? Do you? Yeah, it's just through using it. I haven't gone to any sort of developed your psychic

abilities sort of classes or anything awesome. So for people, for people that are skeptical, and I'll admit I'm a bit of a skeptic myself, is there anything that you can say to them that might make them more open to the ideas of this? Yeah, really, just that if it works for you, great, If it doesn't, that's fine too. I mean I'm a healthy skeptic as well, I think. So. Unfortunately, we have these Charlatans that have gone around for years with the neon psychic palm in their window, that have

taken advantage of people. But everybody has psychic ability. It's not all that mystical. You know, it's just a matter of honing in on it exactly. I mean we've all had when we think of our friend or something and then all of a sudden they call I mean that psychic ability. Yeah, of course, of course. So so do you ever use your your psychic ability to help people with their relationships or what do you typically pertain your your abilities to? It's usually relationships, money, work, the typical

stuff that most people want to know. I do a little bit of medium work. It's not my area of expertise, but people have come through who have passed on excuse me, gotcha? Well, so, Danny, we have some callers calling in to ask about relationships some of their questions, and we want to focus on that for the for the remainder of the segment. Is that okay with you? That's fine with me? All right? Well, Danny, what do you what do you have to say about me?

What kind of senses are you getting from me in regards to my dating and my relationships? Well? Is there anything specific you want to know? We can go on for hours about just stuff I pick up. Yeah, first and foremost, am I ever going to figure this thing out? Figure dating out? Well, you need a little bit of help in that area. Well that's why we have you calling in. Where do you feel that you're blocked or do you just have no idea? I think that I'm

I'm just across the board working on everything. So I don't think there's one specific area. Maybe communication. I tend to be hesitant to open up a little bit, but I think we all have room for improvement, me more so than most people. Okay, well, first of all, I don't think you should be dating. I think you should be doing group activities where you meet people. Okay, you're not meeting the right kind of women. Your picker is off. If that makes any sense to you, I understand the

group settings. Maybe keep it a little bit later, a little bit less fear of rejection if you do something like that too, which is always good exactly. I mean, you need a woman who's gentle and introspective and kind the way that you are, not some sort of Hollywood showy superficial girls. You need somebody with depths. Yeah, I can I can understand that. I think that they're hard to find these days. They're they're you know, especially in

Los Angeles or maybe not so many of them. But absolutely I lived there for a year, so I totally get what you're Yeah, yeah, okay, great. Well, so do you have like a timeline for me or anything like that? Are you able to kind of see anything like that? Maybe give me like a rough approximation of when you

think things might fall into place for me. Give me a moment here, let me tun m. You know, timing is very iffy with a reading because we all have free will and things happen the way that we're supposed that they're supposed to. But the thing is, you know, you're not really ready yet. It's gonna take about two and a half years where you feel confident enough to

attract the type of woman you need. I'm not saying that you're not going to date or that you're not going to meet some nice girls, but you want something of substance. I don't see you as the dating type of person. I see you as somebody who's going to settle down and create a life with somebody. I mean, that's all I want to do. Okay, that's not gonna come for about two and a half years. But you're not ready for it anyway. That's part of the reason

it's not happening for you. Yeah, two and a half years. I'll be right around twenty nine years old. I think that just in terms of timeline for for life, it makes sense to to kind of be more right on their early twenty tony and you're going to have more confidence then, yeah, which I think I could definitely benefit from. All Right, So Danny, we're gonna start taking some phone calls from some listeners and maybe see if we can help them. Okay, absolutely, all right. So right now we

have Mandy calling from Austin, Texas. Okay, Mandy, how are you. I'm good? How are you? I'm doing well. So I have psychic Danny on the line right now. She's going to help with your question. Do you mind asking the question? Sure? Um, well, my boyfriend and I were doing pretty well, and um we've been talking about marriage. So I'm just wondering, like, is that in the future. What's your boyfriend's named, Mandy? His name is Tyler? Okay, and how long have you

been together? Will be actually a year and next month? Okay, give me just a moment here. He feels young, you know, it feels as though he is very much in love with you, and he would like to marry you eventually, but he's you know, it's since the first boyfriend that you've had. No, Okay, give me just a moment here, strong possibility you'll marry, but it's going to take a while. I give it about five years. Oh that's a long time. Did you do you have the patience to wait for

five years? I do. I mean, he's obviously pretty special to me, Like I have a really strong connection that I have with him then with past boyfriends, and I don't know, I am for some reason. I feel very patient and kind of confident in what we have and

so five years doesn't bother me. That's good and no, absolutely, and if you love him, I think that you'll find a way to make it work right and if I don't know if it's you that wants to wait five years or him that wants to wait five years, But at the end of the day, it sounds like you really genuinely love him, which is absolutely what you want. Yeah. I mean, like we're obviously there aspects that we have in our lives and we're still trying to figure it out.

But you know, um, last night we were talking about it. Actually, he was like, when do you want to get married, and I mean, it's kind of a hard question to answer because there's just so many things to think about. Is gonna gonna be a good year? I can already SENSEI it. Mandy. We're gonna call you back in five years and we're going to get to the bottom of this too. Okay, thank you, thank you? All right, all right, So next Danny, we're gonna have Shantell in Kansas. Okay, Sean,

Tell are you there? Yes, I'm here. Hi, Hi, So I have Danny the psychic on the line. Um, Sean, tell, do you mind asking her your question? Uh? No, I don't Okay. Um. So, I'm not currently in a relationship, but I mean I'm looking and keeping my options open. But the guy that the guy that I like is interested in one of my friends. So I guess I'm kind of just wondering, like what my dating life is

gonna look like, because right now it's insane and non existent. Okay, give me just a moment until Okay, it feels like you need to focus on study for a while. It does feel like you're going to have about three or four guys circling you within the next year or two. There's one there's one that's very, very special, but you need to take the time to get to know him

because he's hard to get to know. Excuse me, but you're gonna know right off the bat that he's the one that you really want to spend time with as opposed to the other three that are circling. Okay, we'll turn into marriage. I'm not sure. Okay, that's awesome. It actually makes sense and you need to but you need to focus on study. Don't let the relationships get in the way of that. Okay, Okay, that's awesome because I'm a nursing student. So perfect, John Tell that's the perfect

career for you. By the way, awesome you all right, Sean Tella, thank you so much for calling in. I hope that helped, no problem. Thank you, Dean. All right, have a great day. You took all right, Danny, we have another one. We're gonna go over to Heather in St. Louis And that was a spot on reading. By the way. Okay, Hey, Heather, it's Dean. Are you there. Okay, Wow, I can't believe that I am on your podcast. I was literally just listening to it. Oh well, thank you so much for listening.

And thank you for calling in. We also have psychic Danny on the line. Okay, she's going to be able to help you with your question. Okay, sweet, So do you do you mind asking you what the question is? Yeah? Okay, So my question is, how do you know like when that you like just shouldn't be in the relationship and that it's just not working out anymore, and if that person doesn't want it to work out, well, first of that, by asking the question, you already know. Okay, I guess so.

But it's just a very complicated situation and it's I just like don't understand like how he's thinking. Well, I'll tell you what, Heather, ask yourself this, Does it feel toxic to you? Well, my friends would say that it's toxic, But like when I'm in there, like it's not even a relationship anymore. It's just very like on and off and like not overall probably a great situation to be in, but like when we're together, it's like nothing else matters. Yeah,

that's lost. That's not love. Yeah. Yeah, And I don't mean rust just necessarily in a physical sexual sense, but I mean in general, you know, that's like great friends before like anything happened, and so then the reason that we ended was because we didn't want to lose our friendship. No, if it was the right relationship, the friendship would have blossomed more. This isn't the right guy for you. And and again the simple fact that you're asking the question,

you already know what the answer is. Yeah, yeah, you two just aren't right for each other. And actually, to tell you the truth, it feels like you'll remain friends and it's gonna renew your friendship again. And you never should have be done in a relationship if I because it's just been like so hard to like get over it. Should I just not even be a friend anymore? Then? So you can be his friend, but you might want to take some time in between. M but I'll do something.

He's gonna do the push pull with you, and he's gonna try and pull you back into being in the relationship. And it's just got a healthy relationship for you. Yeah, so many other people out there for you. Seriously, You're now you're going to look back at this and laugh. Seriously, Yeah, how you just got to find the right one for you. Yeah, maybe one day, maybe one day. Well, hey, Heather, keep listening to the podcast. Maybe one of these days we'll have you called back in and give us, give us

an update on kind of where you're at. But thank you so much for calling in. Okay, thank you, all right, have a good day, all right, Danny. We have one more. We're gonna call Victoria and Charlotte, North Carolina. Okay, Victoria, are you there? Yeah? Hi? All right, So I have psychic Danny on the line, and I understand you might have a question for her. I do. Let's hear it, all right, Have I met the person that I'm going to marry yet? Is there one specific person that you're

asking about not already in your mind? And you're wondering if that's the one? And not necessarily I don't, but I feel like I'm twenty five. I feel like everyone's like you've already met the person you're gonna marry by that time in your life. Oh not at all, not at all on it. You've got so much time to go. Wait, Danny, I have the same question for you. Now. I'm curious. I'm have I met the girl that I'm gonna marry?

Absolutely not absolutely, not for Dean, but with Victoria. Give me a moment too to see if you actually have. But in general, it takes some people to their fifties to meet the person that they're gonna marry. So give me just a moment, Victoria. Okay, I would say, no, you've met a man that well, not a man, a guy because he feels younger than a man. But you've met a guy who is soul mate, but not in

a romantic sense. Okay, okay, but it's gonna be i'd say about two to three years before you meet marriage material. But you're gonna have a lot of fun up until then, lots of fun having fun, and that's what you need right now to say, Jo and I will just keep enjoying the weekend. Yeah, you're gonna know it when you meet the guy. I mean, you're going to know it right off the bat, and he's going to know it perfect well, Victoria, thank you so much for calling in.

We hope that helps um. Good luck on your quest. You to all right, have a great day, all right, Danny, that was impressive. You've got a couple of those spot on. Well, thank you, but it's not about ego. I'm just trying to help perfect all right, Danny, Well, thank you again so much for taking the time to call in and help some of the listeners. Um, you got some of them spot on is actually really impressive. But we need

to move on. But if if any of the listeners out there would like to get a reading from Danny Brown, you're more than welcome to email her at Intuitive Insight at a well dot com. And it's spelled I N the number two I t V I N S I g H T so in to it tive Insight at ao L dot com. Or you can email us at I suck at dating at I heart Media dot com. UM, and you know, if you have any other questions or you want to talk to Danny specifically, again, you're able to email her at I and two I t V

Insight at a L dot com. UM, and Danny, thank you a gains so much for the time. Thank you for calling in. UM. Some of the listeners I mean definitely sounds like they appreciate it and you know, hoping for the best for everyone. I am too, Dean, and you as well, Thank you so much. I appreciate that. Give it a little time, Dan, Okay, just be patient, like you're saying exactly, and you'll know when she's to write one, watch the choose. Don't listen to what she says,

watch her actions. Okay, I can definitely understand that. All right, well, thank thank you so much. We'll talk to you soon. You're welcome, take care of I hate to be I mean, I just think inherently about everything. I'm skeptical. I enjoy being a skeptic. I think that it's important to be skeptical about most, if not everything. It's difficult for me to jump fully on board with the psychic readings, maybe just because I don't understand it to the extent that

I'm supposed to. But it's easy to make broad, overarching claims about basically everyone that applies to a lot of people's lives. Um, I don't necessarily like. The thing that maybe makes me the most uncomfortable with it is people

take this stuff to heart. So if if someone says you haven't met the husband that you, you haven't met the person you're gonna marry yet, then that person, if they want to fully believe it, they're going to discount every relationship that they have now because they're like, Okay,

I haven't met the person yet. You know, I don't I don't necessarily need to worry about any of my current or past relationships because I'm still we're looking for the one that I'm going to marry, and that kind of doesn't sit well with me because it closes a lot of doors and it doesn't necessarily allow you to, I don't know, just kind of live life as you're supposed to live it. It makes you kind of more narrow sided. But again that's just my take on it.

I know that everyone kind of takes these psychic readings with a gram ap salt, but I know that there's also a selective few that um take it basically as gospel and follow it devoutly, and you know, more power to them. If it works for them, that's great. I just I'm I'm going to remain skeptical alright. So we're between sidekicks right now. I don't want to leave anyone

on hold. We have Talia from Toronto who wants to know if she's crazy or if she's a crazy girlfriend like her X thinks, Tally, are you there, yeah here, thank you so much for calling in. Oh my gosh, this is crazy. So I have to admit we don't have a psychic on the line right now. I just saw you call in and I figured it was a question that I could help you with instead of having to rely too heavily on the psydekicks. Yeah. No, I think you're just as reliable as a sidekick. Thank you

so much. All Right, so describe your situation to me and maybe we can talk through it together. Okay, So I'm a high school so I'm like small, but um, I haven't asked, and he's like, honestly, like you're the craziest ex girlfriend, Like he obviously really dislikes me, and it's like you're super crazy, like is very upset with me, and like I personally think like I'm super sane, and like I don't don't think I'm a crazy girlfriend. I guess I'm pretty lenient with the guys I see. But

like I guess he thinks opposite. So like I don't know if I just bruised his ego. Like our breakup didn't end well. Okay, So he broke up with me because like he is like kind of like a really popular guid or school and his used to his girlfriends like falling out of sea, idolizing him, and I was super destined and kind of like I guess emotionally unavailable were his words. Sure, okay, so then and then he ended it with and then he ended it with you. Yeah,

he ended it with me. So what what actions do you expressed that he thinks are crazy? See that's the thing, Like he's never clear on them. He's just like she's psycho, like I guess I was. He sees that I was like flirty with other people in our relationship, which I see differently, and like he is like, oh, like you were like manipulate live and like I'm worried that I'm like maybe I was, like maybe I'm super crazy. Have you talked to any of your friends or his friends

about the relationship? Yeah, so I talked to Like so a lot of our friends has stay neutral about us because like it was like a huge thing in our school, our breakup. But um, like my friends like, okay, like you're obviously crazy, because like girls are crazy sometimes, but like they don't think I'm a crazy girlfriend. But then his friends are like, no, you're crazy. Do you guys like talk your text ever you and your X? No? No,

not at all, not at all. So all of this, all of this craziness that he's basing it off of. Is just like social interaction through your friends, through a school, through parties, whatever it is. I mean, unless you're doing something that you're not telling me, it sounds like you're not very crazy. I think he's probably thank you appreciate.

I think, honestly, like you said, if he's this popular guy, um, he probably isn't used to being rejected in any sort of way or or not, you know, having someone open up to them. Maybe have you have you ever like stolen his phone or like logged onto his Facebook or think that God like definitely not has he has he blocked you on Instagram or Facebook or anything social media? He blocked you? Yeah, I mean, I'll be honest, I've blocked girls in the past. And why do guys do that? Like,

I don't understand the whole blocking thing. Um, I just for me, For me specifically, I just didn't want them to have an avenue to reach out to me. So I don't want them. I don't want them to be able to text me or d m me on Instagram or whatever it is that was min and I don't want to kind of allow that Pandora's box to open back up. So that's why I did it personally. Yeah, that makes sense for him blocking you. I don't know. I think that maybe we're missing some bits of the story.

How long we guys together for? We were together for six weeks? Oh my gosh. What a short relationship. No shortest relationship ever. If he okay, So, if you were to come back to you and he said, Talia, I miss you, I want to take you back, would you get back together with him? Oh? No? He was like, okay. He was like a little abusive, not gonna lie verbally or physical, um like physically, um and so. And he's like, since like we broke up, threads all these rumors about Okay,

I take back everything I said. He is clearly a crazy person. You don't need to worry about anything. I mean, he's got of like this maybe this ego that's like, like you said, not used to being bruised like it is. And here you here, you are kind of not being able to not giving him what he wants, and he's not used to that. I guess, yeah, I think that's what it is. I'm glad that you're confirming this for me that I don't think you're crazy. I think he

sounds very crazy. Um, will you Okay, so I'm kind of curious to get updates from you every once in a while. Can you can we talk to you like it could maybe a couple weeks and see where everything's going with this? Yeah, oh my gosh, I'd love to talk to you in a couple of weeks. Okay, thank you. I hope that helped. Um, Tolly, thank you so much for calling in. Good luck with everything, and yeah, of course, best of luck with high school of course. All right,

take care. But alright, so we just spoke with Danny, who is a psychic. She says she's she's practicing medium work a little bit. But next up we have Lisa, divine psychic number two for the podcast today. We're gonna we're gonna bring her in. We're gonna have her talk to some of the callers at least. Are you there? Hi? Hi, how are you? Thank you so much for calling in. I'm good absolutely. How are you doing, Dean? I'm doing

well and doing well. So Lisa, can you tell us a little bit more about you because you're a psychic, right or do you prefer to go by a different title? I know it's so funny all the all of us who have these abilities. We have so many different titles, and yeah, you could call there's a lot of different titles. I do a lot of different things, a lot of spiritual counseling and uh and intuitive counseling and things like that.

But I would tell you that my most the thing that I do of the time is that I have this ability to see, physically see and communicate and speak with angels. And so they actually are the ones who really have the highest percentage of coming in and giving me the most messages. So I guess we could call myself an angel whisperer or okay, and co intuitive or maybe like a medium. So these angels are people of importance to whoever it is that you're speaking through. Is

that yeah? Okay, Yeah, that's amazing. Okay, great, well, Lisa, So we're gonna just jump right onto the phones and take a couple of collars, and I'd love for you and I to maybe discuss a little bit more about me later on, if that's okay. Absolutely, I had tons of message for you as well. I can't wait. All right, Well, so we're gonna start with Sarah over in Washington, d C. Sarah, are you there. Yeah, I'm going to jump off the trend mill. Sara's in the gym. I love it. It's

my first day back from an injury. Gosh. Alright. So Sarah, so you have Lisa Divine, who is a psychic angel whisper on the phone here. What kind of questions do you have for so um. I was just wondering. I grew up around without a lot of negative relationships, which my family, and I'm wondering if that's going to be like if that sofa seeing my place love life? I guess yeah, you know, it actually is the It is

absolutely the driving force. But you have surpassed the negativity by right now getting to this point of having the awareness that you have right now about this negativity instead of being you know, immersed in it and being totally engulfed in it. Is that is the point that you've gotten to right now. That is that you're the way

all the way through there. So that awareness is actually the key for your for passing it right now, and that negativity is also part of the past for you to be able to take things and shift them in a different way. But what you need to do is look at yourself and look at the way that this negativity has infused into your life a little bit. Maybe look at some of the past patterns and the habits that you've had with people that you pick or people

that you choose to surround yourself with. And this isn't just in your love relationships, but it's also friendships. Um, when we have a lot of negativity or negativity excuse me, in our life, we tend to become comfortable with it, even if it's not something we want, it's something that we feels normal to us. And then we start start to draw in people that you know, have that same energy,

and we start to you know, deal with it. We kind of feel happy that we're challenged, you know, with it, and we kind of are like, I know how to break through this, but at the end of the day, we want to just get it, you know, straight out

of our life. So absolutely it does have something to do with it, but it was a purpose for it, and there's a this is a path that you're on that we're meant to get you to this exact spot of this awareness that you have right now, and so this is the time where you can start to make the changes and be really intentional about not letting any more of that into your life from now here on out. That's awesome. I'm just like, yeah, I always want to try to keep it out of my looks, but it

kinds me expect in there. So I'm always trying to keep I guess trying to be exactly aware. And it's very sneaky. They come in different ways, so it's interesting. It won't come in the same way as that that negative person that comes in in one way you know in your childhood. Other people will come in in a different way, and it almost it's masked as if it's a very whole different type of energy, but it's very

much the same and the undercurrent of that person. So just being aware and keeping yourself very aware of it. How your body feels, that's going to be your biggest barometer and your biggest compass. Is for you to take a look at, how is my body feel when I'm around this person. Does it feel heavy? Does it feel tired? Or do I feel revised? Do I feel awake? And that is going to be the compass that you want to use to continue going on your path. Great, I

hope you caught all that was quite a bit. That's great. Yeah, I'm like kind of like I can't even think of the words to respond. I gues think that's kind of something I've been wanting to hear. UM and definitely like that's good energy to be like going into like the holiday season words especially people like you can be around negative people and negative energy so much family, So like absolutely, Sarah, Well, thank you so much for calling in. UM, get back

to your workout and have a happy holiday season. Okay, thank you both of us, sending your tail vibes as well. Oh thank you? All right, all right, Li, So we're gonna move to Leslie and Mesa, Arizona next. Hey Leslie, it's Dean and Lisa. How are you again? How are you guys? I'm doing well. So we have Lisa divine. What's your question for her? She's the psychic. Um. Okay, So I've been married for going on for years now

and I'm only twenty two. UM, but we and my husband have had three kids together in that four year UM timeline, so he's learning more children. I am done, completely done. So I guess my question to you is, UM, do you see any more kids in my future? Or not? No?

Get a dog. No, I think that it would be I mean, look, questions like that can go either way, and I don't and I you know, because people can make you have free will, so you can, you know, move back and forth and you can choose whatever really you would like. But if you're asking me, you know, intuitively, absolutely I believe that you're done and you have an

entire um gross period that's showing up. You have a whole life coming for you that is beyond the children, and and you're gonna want to be able to put your attention on that. So do a compromise with him and ask him, you know, if there's some other way that he can you know, you know, you guys can compromise and find another way that you can satisfy that it's for having another baby. But I do feel like

it's it's the time. Is that's that's finished. Now you have a lot of pictures up on the walk, get a dog. Let's let's see. I just want to voice my opinion as well. I fully agree with Lisa. I think that, um, I mean, obviously I don't have the second intuition that she has, but I think that if if your husband really wants to have another child if you don't want to, at the end of the day, it's your choice, right, and maybe consider adoption. Maybe consider a dog. I think is a great choice. Um, but

I don't think that. I don't want you to feel pressured into doing that just because it's something that he wants. It should be a you know, a mutual agreement for that. That's my take on. I just wanted at least voice that exactly exactly. Um, all right, let's see. Well, we hope that helped. Thank you so much for calling in. Best of luck, and we'll talk to you later than you when she's listening later. To take a very deep breath first thing every morning for you would be a

really beautiful thing. Take a nice deep breath and then get through that day because you're busy girl. Sounds like it. I definitely am well, best a Lutia. Thank you guys. All right, bye, alright, at least we have one more caller. We're gonna go over to Fiona in New York being are you there? Yeah, okay, gotcha. So, so we have Lisa Divine on the line. She's your psychic. What kind of question do you have for so? I think my

portion is going to break up with me? Mm hmm, okay, and what is yeah, is he going to break up with me? Yeah? Break up with him first? No, I mean, um, I think that what he's doing right now is toying with the idea. He's going back and forth, and I don't think that he actually has a legitimate feeling one way or the other. I think that he goes back and forth each day and or each moment or each minute, and um. And that would be if I can just be empowering on On the other hand, is yes, I

can see him wobbling back and forth. So if he is really of importance to you and this is something that you really want to pursue, then then I would get into a really nice, deep, vulnerable, communicative place with him. Or I would just be you know, asking yourself, am I being honored? Is this the kind of relationship I want to be in where somebody is I can't decide if they want to be with me, but they're not speaking to me about it or not trying to work

through it. And then I would make my own decision on that. You know, before I would put too much thought into is he going to do it? I would start to consider my own options of what would I like from my own life. That's where where you where you're at right now, um, and maybe just seeing it from that perspective of what would you like to you know, who would you like to be around, Who would you like to be with, Who would you like to be

spending and creating a life with. You can't create a life with somebody who is keeping their own you know, back and forthness from you. Yeah, like I want the one who's like, who knows they want to be with me? And like, I don't want to fill the life with someone who's like so, I'm sure you know right. It's almost like he's doing things to make you break up with him. Yeah, he's being really weird lately. Yeah, he's not having the nerve to do it. I'm like, you know,

that's not the man you need. That's not going to help you, not at all. Yeah, in a minute, I need him. Yeah, And that's the that's the energy, that's the perception you want to stand in instead of putting it on thinking about what he's thinking. You wanna you want to definitely stand your grout, your feet into the ground and ask your stuff no, no, no no, no. All that can control is right here in what's and what's within me? And what would I have another woman do?

What would I ask for another person if they were in this situation? And then I'm going to choose the thing for myself. Thank you so much. So you're welcome. You're so welcome. All right, Fiane, Well, thank you so much for calling in and asking the question. We hope that helped. Um. Thank you so much. I love you so much. You're so welcome, and thank you for listening. And best of luck with everything. Okay, all right, take care bye. All right, Lisa, great job. Now it's just

me and you girl. All right. How much time do we have left? We have as much time as you want. It really depends. Oh my god. So it's so funny because I just think getting bombarded with um with you know, information for you, and honestly have not I don't. I didn't know who you were. I wasn't aware of of you know, anything about you, but um, I was getting

these beautiful, strong messages for you. First of all, uh, just some of the things that we're just coming in right off the bat was that there's this really deep like misunderstanding about you that has been, you know, from a lot of people have been misunderstanding you. And then it's almost like you've looked around and seeing that and then turned it around on yourself and started to misunderstand yourself. You have this Yeah, no, no, continue, I'm sorry, no, no,

tell me. What were you going to say, because I wanted to hear well, I was going to say, I think that there there does seem to be misunderstanding about me. I think I can agree with that statement. Um, I think that I was labeled something that I'm not. Again, I think that the actions reflected the label. And I'm not arguing that point at all, um, but at the core, I just know that's not right. So um, that's ok. Good, that's I guess me agreeing with that part of it

at least. Good good. Okay. Yeah, there is a a sensitivity, like a really deep sensitivity to you, and there is a really strong desire for love. And it's almost like what you know, might the angels are showing me is that you have this idea of what a relationship should be, and you're looking at like this idea of what it should be, but in actuality, you are on this path that you you haven't really it hasn't you know, went into full like opening up of this path and this purpose.

Yet so you're kind of still on it and you can't really get to see that you're actually changing the paradigm of what love looks like for a lot of people, and you're actually being able to expose this new kind of paradigm for love, this one that is you know what is you know, it's like showing me each person, You're showing each person, You're like this model of hope that's showing them, you know, what is your love story? What is your idea of love? What does it look

like for you? So that everybody has this different kind of perfect on putting that in quotes relationship, but it's based upon all of our imperfections, and and you're kind of in the same place. You have this um they're showing me that you had this ultimately this idea and if you were looking at this idea and if you weren't doing that idea, then you were assuming that you're

judging that you were doing something wrong. And so what they're telling me is to look instead of stop, you know, instead of looking at other people are looking at like, who did I hurt that person, or keeping your gaze just on all of the other um people, basically turning it on yourself and looking into yourself and and having compassion there for who you are, you know, for what works for you, for being really vulnerable, you know, using your sense of humor, using your you know, your knowledge

and its vulnerability that you have that you're exposing to everybody, and and kind of working in that way. Um So, so I guess you're what you're saying information of all that is is don't necessarily allow myself to get put into a box, because I think I think to your initial point is there is a lot of for the first time in my life, first time I've experienced it, there is a lot of outside influence on me, both individually and in a presumptive relationship or perspective relationship, whatever

it is. And I think to that initial point that you made is it's hard to not let other people influence the idea of what a relationship is for me when obviously it varies from person to person. So I think what what you're saying is don't necessarily allow that influence to take effect. Is that right? Yeah, That's exactly what I'm trying to say is that you are completely out of the box and trying to fit in the box is just this is not. Your purpose is to be out of the box, and your purpose is to

to have this completely other relationship. There's a relationship coming for you, and she is a grounded girl and she sees you, but it is it's a completely different love than you're imagining that it would be. And so they're saying, basically, bust up that whole idea of what you are thinking that it is so that this new one can come through, this real, organic, imperfect love. You know that it's completely authentic to you, and it's it's a perfect thing for you,

wouldn't be perfect for other people, you know. But then you're then by doing that, you're being this model for people of finding their own love that works for them, so that a bust out of their own box. And because we're in a time right now where everybody's busting out of the box and we just don't do relationships the way we used to do them anymore. What do I have to do to receive that love? What do I have to do to open myself up to be able to find it? I know that this is the

best part. You don't have to do anything. They're telling me, it's just going to come in and slap you in the face. Like literally, if a girl comes to you in the next little while, it slops you in the face. She was the one. Um, They're they're telling me to have you turn it onto yourself and start to just spend the time, like give yourself a lot of time alone. Like they're showing me, outdoors is really good for you.

Take a walk on the beach, go do some kind of exercise or activity that you love to do, something where you can kind of just get into this space of being in your own energy. Because the more that you're okay and understanding yourself, the more that she's able to see you because you can see yourself okay. Interesting, So just continue to live my life as I as I want to live it. Essentially, continue living your life and just being introspective and turning it into yourself. Exactly.

You have already this desperate life you have. They're showing me such a deep sensitivity inside this, like really beautiful, loyal, affectionate. Um, you're just a really caring person, and I think that that's actually hurt you before, because that's you know, it's almost like you're exposing yourself and your raw and you're vulnerable, and you know that can actually seem to other people

like you know, it can backfire on you. It's it kind of has hurt you before to be that way, or that you come across in a way that that wasn't your intention. And so they're asking you to have compassion for yourself, to be able to look at yourself and and really, you know, know that you're coming from a really big heart, is the bottom line? Do all I do? I do think that that's pretty true. Yeah, I have a question. So earlier, when we first introduced you,

you said that you are an angel whisper of sorts? Correct, And when you do that, do you do you find yourself having to be in the same room as the person? Do you? Are you able to do it over the phone? How does that work? I'm able to do it over the phone. I'm able to do it everywhere anywhere. It's really interesting. All right, So I have a I have a quick question to ask you then. Um, So I just recently got this tattoo on my back on my shoulder.

Last week, I got a butterfly, because butterflies are symbolic of angels. At least I think I accorded to like Japanese law or something on those lines. So when I was ten years old, I've never I don't really share this story often. Not many people know this about me. When I was ten years old, I had this best friend. His name was Hunter Holly Scott. He was the same age as me. We had the exact same birthday, and you know, at that age you find you're grasping at

straws to find, you know, commonalities between each other. So having the same birthday as someone kind of allows them to be your best friend at that point, right, So best friends from like second grade until fifth grade. Remember one day we were riding our bikes around, uh around town around Basalt where I grew up, and he we went to the market to get drinks or something like that, and he killed a butterfly with his bicycle. It was

this beautiful yellow monarch butterfly. And then five maybe like ten to fifteen minutes later, we were both bicycling back home because we lived next to each other, we were neighbors, and he fell on his bicycle and then got ran over by a truck and I was right behind him. And so I've always kind of had this strange appreciation for butterflies and I've always wanted to get this butterfly tattoo. Oh my god. He of course passed away that moment.

But are you able to like speak with him at all? Wow? Um, yeah, let's let's try to. Let's try to pull him in. I will tell you this. There is an angel that has been coming to me for you specifically, and his name is Jeremy. It's an archangel, Jeremy. I own is j E R E M I E L Jeremile. And yeah, and he's been he's letting me know that he has been. He was there during this time. And actually, yes, there

was this symbolic presence of this. This is a this is all this is a talk further conversation as well. But yes, we have the this presence and give you this your friend's name again, Scott. Okay, yeah, Um, And absolutely Hunter is has a Wow. I mean, there's just such a strong presence he he's with you that this is part of your path, this purpose that I've been speaking to you about. It's almost like he was this guide for you that he's come in and he's still

with you. I'm sure you can send him all the time or very often. Yeah, it's almost like he was a guide for you. You guys came in and oh, I'm even getting that maybe this angel, that Jeremile that's coming in. It's almost that he's emerging showing me that he had merged with that that energy. So what I would assume is that he's always been with him. It's like this guide for you, This Jeremile has always been a guide for you. And this child was a friend,

but he's also was a guide for you. And there's still so much more to learn from this friend. He still wants to continue to be friends with you and you know, to continue your friendship. But yes, that pivotal moment was traumatic, but in that trauma, there was also this Joe. It did something in you where, uh, it fueled you with a purpose that you weren't aware of for all of these years, and it's starting to unfold

right now. So I believe that the moment that you got the tattoo, which by the way, he was with you, you know, kind of getting his own little angel imprint, you know, and or Butterfly imprint on himself. Uh, this is really the time where it's you're starting your purpose is starting to awaken. And so that was almost that moment was a symbol of that. Whether you're aware of that or not, he was there. It's almost like he's starting to not merge with you here at this time.

That Yeah, there's a significant part of there's a significant date of when is there a date that you got the the or a time or a moment that you decided you were going to get it or when you got it or something like that. Well, so it's kind of been in two parts. When I was nineteen, one of my other best friends who was very very close to Hunter and I both got h h S and carry on her back for you know, just basically to commemorate his life and and kind of a bonding of

our friendship altogether. And then this past weekend, I've I've always told around and thought about the butterfly tattoo. I've always like told my friends that I wanted to get a butterfly tattoo. And then I was like, no, you can't get a butterfly tattoo, Like that's too like whatever, And every single time, like like you don't know what

you're talking about. I'm just gonna do it. And then so one of my one of my great friends and I both went to the tattoo parlor last week, and um, I mean I love it Personally, I think, uh, it's girly, but it's it's important to me and I think that's the most important. It's absolutely great. Yeah, yeah, that's a

it's a beautiful Um. I have the chills talking about it because there's a really strong connection between you and him, and it's almost like in that moment, yes, he was jolted into another realm, but there was a very very strong um union between you two that surpasses these realms

and dimensions that that he's been with you. He is a guy, He's an absolute guide and you can talk to him whenever and he will be there and you will answer, and you will find a way always to lead you, to guide you, to mentor you and to and he will communicate and and open doors for you as well. I love that. Well. Yeah, I think you said that a lot of this conversation is kind of left to be had at a later time when we

have time to discuss, and I agree with you. I think I'd love to talk with you a little bit more about it, um, But for now, Lisa, I wanted to thank you one more time for for calling in and you know, speaking with our listeners and giving me more insight both to my romantic life and my friends and UM, you know, I really do for sure. You're so welcome. Thanks for having me. If any of the listeners want to reach out to to Lisa, UM, you can go to her website, the Modern Magdalene dot com.

That's the Modern M A G D A L E n E dot com. UM and Lisa, thank you again. And like I said, I'd love to continue a conversation with you later on and you know, maybe soon. All right, take care, talk soon by. Yeah, that was that was an interesting day for me. He died in front of you. Yeah, he was maybe like fiftet in front of me. It was pretty traumatic. I remember, I mean, if I remember very specifically, it wasn't just his his head was the

one that got ran over. So like it was this big burly truck that was like working construction for the day, and he was like riding with his forearms on the handlebars like open a Solby bottle or something like that and he like glasses balance fell over and as he hit the ground of the truck came by and ran over his head. It was very traumatic and and I mean I definitely had a lot to work through from that point. But uh, at that age, I still have

my mother. So my mother was very supportive and and and wanted me to be able to work through my shues with her. UM. So it definitely helped strengthen my relationship with my mother. And then you know, like I said, I got this tattoo with one of my other best friends. And even like at our high school graduation, UM, I was voted on by my peers to like give a speech in commemoration and and honoring Hunter. So um. To Lisa's point, I think that, uh, he has kind of

given me a out of guide. It's whether it's directly or indirectly UM as a spirit or or just as an as an individual. So um. Again, it's not really a story that I share often, so it's weird to have a platform to kind of speak about UM. Anyways, I want to thank my guest today, uh Sandy and Franklin, Wisconsin, who doesn't like me, but I tried to win her over maybe we'll have her on later on. Again, that's

Mark's mother in law. We also had Danny Brown on, who is the psychic and if you need her you can email her or or just email us at I Suck at Dating at iHeartMedia dot com. And then last, but certainly not least, we had Lisa Divine who was the angel whisper slash psychic and she can be found at the Modern Magdalene dot com. I just both spelled it for you, but it's the Modern m A G D A l e n E dot com. Um. So next week, I'm very hopeful to have a couple of

my fellow castaways from Paradise on. Uh. Probably the cutest couple, I guess, the only couple well that beside Sailing Derek. The one of the cutest couples to come out of Bachelor Paradise this season. Raven and Adam. You know, Adam and I became very close friends over the course of my season and then throughout Paradise and Raven I think is is a gem, a little bit of a firecracker,

but they're incredible together. Uh. They just spent the weekend in Arizona for adams home homecoming for college, and um, they just seem to be very much in love and I'd love to be able to get them on and talk about what makes them work, what advice they have for me from their perspective, and uh and yeah, just kinda talk about things. So so next week that's what we're looking forward to. Um, my name is Dean, and thank you so much for taking the time to listen.

This is episode six, Halloween edition of Help I Suck At Dating Again. My name is Dean, and maybe next week I'll suck a little bit less. Follow Help I Suck At Dating with Dean Anglert on I Heart Radio or subscribe wherever you listen to podcast