#30 Dating Etiquette

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saw what's his name wearing at stage coach? Yeah, oh alex Yeah, yeah, what's his name, Robbie, he's wearing a male romper. I think he was. I could see that. So I got my ear peers in fifth grade and my aunt made me get the hoop earring. Ye. The littles was like the Michael Jordan's es, Like, yeah, obviously, but I'm saying there's a market there for hoops for men. It bring it back, but we should know. We should note that Alexis has found love. She no longer sucks

it dare im. Sorry, you guys, I don't I don't even know I'm here kidding. I mean your Instagram because you and Tyler are damn cue you guys, really are. I feel like he's a male version of you. No, no, no no, no, he's completely uppisite. He's really quiet. No, he's but I mean, like he's funny. Oh yeah, he's he's not really like I have the funny one. No, but yeah, he tries well opposite the track. Yeah he's we're kind of opposite. But he's like he has a

good heart, good like good man. I think we should have Like there has to be a whole segment at some point about how they make long distance work. Well, I was just going to ask you guys that. So last night I did a live segment. I was like bored. I was cooking, so I'm like, oh, let me go live on Instagram. The last a little bit he did didn't answer you. Well, I was trying to like notch up my fingers off and wait, I actually wrote some of them. One person, who was it? Someone asked, I

have no coal? What do you guys think of long distance relationships? I actually love long distance relationships And we were talking about that too last time. You're like, oh, well I get to see him, and you know that I cut out of my space because we're both are independent. So like also like I work on like this week,

I'm working on my website for my hoops. So like, I like, because I have a dad, I need to be alone to actually focus and he like has business too, so he does his thing, and then when we're together he seems pretty supportive. Yeah, he's so supportive. I mean I don't know anything about business. He does, so I know hoops, he knows business. So what work? What's your upsite name? Hoop Nation by Alexis dot com. Okay, and when is this going to get launched? Tuesday? Oh that

is wait? What are we? Oh? Next week? Yeah? Next week? So one week right after Mother's Day? Yeah? Perfect, So buy your mom some hoops the belated Mother's Day present for the moms out there. I'll sp it up. I'm oppositely too. I can't do longest its relationship really, I'm just I'm needy. You need Wow, I didn't picture you as the needy type. Wait, what are your love languages? Well we can talk about that later too, because I know they asked you that on your Instagram live last night.

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I don't like it to be like I don't want to I don't want him to be super well groomed. Wants man, how did we end up here? Alexis is here? Alexis wait? I think, wait, do you have to leave? You want to leave? Okay? Well, the first ten minutes of the podcast, I love you guys dot com, I think, well, you know Alexis, Oh she's hilarious. I mean you just look at her and you just smile. Yeah. Yeah. We spent a week together in Paradise last year and there

was never dull moment. And as you can clearly see she just continues with the humor and alexis potty jokes and gotta love it. But anyways, it was good to have her. So for this next segment, we are actually going to be joined by Julian who's from evite UM and we tease it a little bit last we know you tease it on your Instagram Live a little bit. Yeah. Basically, Julian, who want to introduce yourself. Basically, what we're gonna talk about today is party etiquette and a little bit of

dating etiquette hopefully as well. Oh yeah, I have lots of questions. I came prepared, okay, perfect. Yeah. So I'm Julian Um. I'm an Evite party specialist and UM. I co host a weekly show on evite on Facebook page called vit i Rol, which is amazing. First of all, I was checking the website. Evite has been around you guys for twenty years. Yeah, we're celebrating our twenties birthday this year. That's insane. I was, um, like a really bad at math. That was ten when it came out, Dean,

Hold are you like five seven seven? Thanks Vanessa? But who would have thought like you? I was twelve. I feel like another level of comfort right now? Yeah, so you know, um, alright, so can you I actually looked at a couple of the videos. Um wait, there was one that was really interesting because I was like, oh my god, that's totally me. How to go st a party? So I was like, oh, what does that mean? Like like not going to a party? Now? How do you

leave a party? So? I come from a big Italian family? Oh really Italian? Well my mother my father's clark. My mother is a jeezy just super which part of Italy Northern Genoa, Genoese? Okay, I'm southern, so I'm have a hard head. Yeah, spending wrong with that, but we also like we're it's always awkward when you're the first person that wants to leave a party. You don't want to be the first person to break the ice. So can you give us like the dues and dones of how

would you go ust to party? That's a great question. So I think the most important thing is don't definitely be the first to leave. How do you not at all? I feel like that you don't want to be the first person to jump ship. I think though you wait to like the atmosphere is a little quiet and then I think you just look for like a quick exit and get out of there. I think you usually like snap a picture of the party in that way when

you're leaving. You can text them later saying hey, I had a great time, thanks for having me there, and then they're like, okay, so they actually showed up. I'm glad about that. I um, yeah, I still haven't mastered that. I guess I have to try that. I'm the king of the Irish exit. Whenever at a bar with all my friends. Yeah, well that's what we call it. At least one emeralds around, they're still partying hard. I just ordered Ubert, don't say word to anyone and just check.

See that's what I'm bad at. So I've been in our culture. You have to say bye to everybody. So even if you had a party with like fifty people, you have to go around and kiss, kiss everyone on the cheek and you know, say you're good byes. So I'm not used to I guess doing the Irish exit exit. Yeah. I think sometimes you say like hey, I have to take a quick phone call outside real quick, or sometimes you just say I have to go use the restroom, and then you just restrooms. That was a good one

with me, and people believe it. Yeah, bathroom is that rude? Just vanish? I mean it maybe a little rude. At the same time, like, I think you should also look out for yourself. I don't think you wanna have to go through goodbyes with like twenty or twenty five different people. I think the more you get out the better, and then only that the party host doesn't have to worry about like going through the process being like thank for coming and everything. They can go back to join the party.

I guess enough for years. I my move was I have to get something out of my car. That's one. People have found it very charming. We took a poll and everyone everyone. But that's what kind of questions you have for Julian. Oh well, okay, so I know there's like another video that you guys have what to do when you run into your ex at a party, which I found hilarious. At one point it was don't let

your ex no you've been secretly stalking them on Instad's true. Yeah, yeah, I think we all kind of Yeah, so it's like, oh, you know, don't act as if you know anything that's going on in their life, like just casually asked them like, hey, so you know, how's it going with work? So I wanted to actually ask you, how would you since this is you know, help I secon dating. So you're at a party and there's like someone that you're like, oh, really attracted to. How would you approach them and possibly

get their contact info? Is it now more appropriate to ask them for their Instagram had ndle, their Twitter handle or do you just you know, go old school and ask them for their number? I think you go old school. I don't. I was listening to Your Guys last episode, and so many people were saying how happy they were when men come up to them and they're just really like and you know, hey, this is my name, I'd love to take you out or something like that. And

I think that's what people should start doing. I think it almost makes you more authentic. I don't know. When you if someone wants to come up to me and be like, hey, so what's your Instagram handle? I'd be like, is this someone I really want to invest some time? And I feel I don't know deed. So if you were to ask a girl for her number and she would respond, well, um, because this is what I I

kind of do. Sometimes I'm like, well, I don't want to give out my number, but we can become Instagram friends. Is that Is that a turn off? Is that? I think that's an appropriate way to handle it too, because then you have the opportunity to creep their Instagram a know, a little bit more about them, a little more about them, and then the d M works just as well as a text message. So that is true. It kind of allows a little bit more of a comfortability between the

two of them. But I do appreciate that the tradition ality probably not a word of just giving is a word or asking for a phone number, um, just because I feel like we're moving away from a lot of things that we used to do that obviously we're proven to be successful and now we're kind of adopting our own, you know, millennial ways of doing things, and it's just, you know, I think it's important also stand out from

the crowd. I mean, if you're hopefully you're floating with someone who you know is super attractive, and so you want to make sure that you're not just another number, you know, you know, you don't want to make sure that you're just not like follower nine hundred or follower A thousand and twenty. You want to make sure, like, hey, this is actually someone who who is invested in seeing this go somewhere. So this EVI I r L that

you do every other Friday. You said, what do you guys typically talk about on that besides we uh no, go ahead, I'm sorry. Like this, like this party etique type stuff, is that mostly what it is? Or is specific situations that you might find yourself in. It's really everything. I mean, we jump from party etiquette. We we invite guests on to make different recipes, food, drink, We do a lot of challenges like party fail stuff like that. We try and just try to make it feel more

realistic and relax. I feel like a lot of times people get so stressed out when they're plenty the party has to go perfectly, and parties aren't like that. Life isn't like that. So I think we try to stress like, have fun, enjoy yourselves. It's just a good time nice. Yeah, I mean I definitely enjoyed myself at most of the

parties I go to. Tuesday Saturday night, Vanessa sends me a video of her probably two fifty feet away from me, just zooming in very slowly, very slowly, and then there it is like a mosh pit with me and all my friends is jumping up and you couldn't be missed. I was like, I have to send him this. It was too good. But you did have a good time. I still have blisters. So last week we had Tiffany and Caleb um for the greatest wedding ever donated. They

had their wedding on Saturday. We both attended and I still have blissers on my feet for dancing the entire night. It was such a beautiful event. Yeah, two great people, Dean's friends. Yeah, no, it was wonderful. Yeah I did. I did. Um So, do you want to talk to us about any other videos that you guys have? Yeah, so if you um so, We we have so many different videos we have. We obviously do like a lot of d I Y s and recipe would do a

lot of original stuff. We interview a lot of experts in their field and we're just trying our best for people who are planning parties or planning get together is trying to make it a little easier for them to have the initiative to want to hang out with people connect. I feel like nowadays so many people are connected through phones and computers and your tablet. You don't have the opportunity to see people face to face. I feel like, and that should be sorry, and I think I interrupted.

I think that should be when I want to So I have a roommate out in l A and we're always like, oh, we want to throw a party. We want to be you know, a hub where people come and meet each other and you create new friendships. And I think that's a great way to to meet maybe a significant other. Yeah, I think it's so many times we're just stuck by being like, you know, someone met so and so on a dating app or or someone

was connected by a friend they met on Instagram. And I think, uh, we should pride ourselves to get out a little more. You don't know who you may meet. It may just end up being a friend, but that friend may connect you with the person he may may fall in love with now that hit it with. So, So here's my issue with I think I have party phobi like throwing a party phobia. I hate throwing parties for the simple fact I'm scared no one's going to show up. That's that's an ego thing, right is it. Yeah.

I mean when I did my charity, I was like, no one's going to show up and think anythink it blows back down to ego. Yeah. I think it's because you're it's like, you don't want to fail at something, and also you're putting yourself out there. You don't want to be like, if there are there will be people who will come. You don't want there to be like three people at a party and then everyone's like, oh my god, this loser through a party. But that never

really happens. There's always a lot of people that show and so that leads me into my second fear of throwing a party is that if people do show up, that I just throw a bad party. So it's good so EVI offers the support and like the information that kind of allows you to have an exciting party for your friends. Yeah. I mean, I think at the end of the day, if you're inviting over good friends and good family to celebrate, I think a party can never really be bad. I think, trust me, I can probably

throw a pretty bad party. I mean, but I think there's something really special and having also like a party that maybe a little bad. I mean a party where someone breaks something or something embarrassing happens. I mean those are the ones that you end up telling the stories about for you. Can you and you share a story

about maybe the most memorable party that you've been to. Yes, okay, So, um, one Halloween, I threw a Halloween party where I was going to propose to my husband, and UM, it was so embarrassing because, um, a bunch of people showed up, and then four or five people showed up who I had no clue who they were, and and as I was proposing to them, they started chanting and screaming at the top of their lungs, like positively or what do you mean? No, It's just like they were just making

noise and everything in the middle of this morning. Everyone else had who were coming, everyone else who was there and what was going on? But these people had been invited. That's what happens with every party. Friends show up with friends. And it was kind of awkward because I had to repeat the question really yeah, oh no, But I mean it would also ended up being something really cool. You you look back on it and you're like, did he

not hear the first time he did? But I just was like, I want to make it clear to everyone here that this is going as smoothly as possible. And for the record, I do see a wedding band on your fingers, So that's twice. Basically, Yeah, I actually have a similar stories. So my um, I think, first of all, Halloween everyone gets a chance to really be themselves or you know, a day you can be someone else that

you always wanted to be. So my sister through when I was still living at home at my mom's house, my mom was on vacation, and my sister and I were like, oh, let's throw a Halloween party since, like you know, good old school Italian family, like you're not allowed doing any of these kinds of things. So for us was like, oh my god, we're throwing a Halloween party. Mommy doesn't know, she's the way, we're going to buy alcoholic. We invited people, and that was the day my sister

met her now husband and now baby daddy. Yeah, over twelve years ago. So there you go. For the listeners out there, go to parties, you know, have a party, have a party, have a party, so you never know who you'll meet, and you may end up meeting like I said, just a friend, but like that may be a great friendship you have, or that friend may introduce you to someone who's like you spend your life with. So I think either way, just like, go out and meet people. How did hang outside? How did you meet

your husband? We met on Instagram? Okay, okay, we can. Can we hear that story because we've gotten out a couple of times now he lib and Tiffany last night too, last week. Oh yeah, I would love to. So he's a cookbook author and a food photographer. So he was using the hashtag food and foodie and I'm a big I love eating, and so I was following people who

did that. So we connected on that and we just literally started commenting on one of his posts, I believe it was of donuts, and there's like sixty comments going back and forth, and finally asked him out in the comments in the comment Yeah, we go back looking at and we're like, no one else's commenting. So if anyone just like it, totally starts sneaking on this comment section, like oh my god, well the Instagram his wonderful marriage. You couldn't meet people through social media? We had, um,

someone come on from a dating service. That was nine thousand dollars. That was last week. That was last week? Correct, Yeah, I have such a horrible memory the elite dating Dean. I'm so proud of you. I do my homework trying to say I doubt anyway. All this to say is you could meet your future ye if other it's nowadays, there's there really is no excuse to get yourself out. There's you know, we have so many opportunities to meet people.

But at the same time, like, don't deny yourself any opportunity, either out of fear or if you're having trouble meeting people online, which is tough. You know, it's scary when you go on like Instagram or Facebook and like you see the perfect life people are living because they only put that out so you you know, you're tend to get a little discourage. You're like, well, I'm not living my best life personally because I know, so how could I meet this person? But in reality, we're all the same,

you know, we're all fighting the same struggle. And I think you don't really realize that until you get out and actually connect with people face to face. You're like, oh, this person two is having trouble with with rent or when you know, whatever problems that we all endure. Absolutely so,

so more focusing on evite. Then what do you guys typically like to because you guys kind of specialize in the party invites, but then you're now you're kind of spinning off these d A Y m all these types of recipes and stuff, right, yeah, So so what's kind of been like the staple of for the past twenty years, since you guys been around for so long. Yeah, Well,

we're the leading online in texting aitation service. Our our company mission is to bring people together face to face, and while the bread and butter of our company, you know, are the invitations and allowing people to make that process easier. Like, we really believe that we want to help you make your party planning process as easy as easy as possible

and encourage you to do it. I think, like I would, like we were talking about before, so many people get afraid about throwing parties or so many people think that, you know, a party is a huge endeavor and it's not you know, simple get together with Like like what we're doing right now, you know, considered in the studio, right, yeah, Like we're having a good time. We're enjoying each other's company.

And the more we spend time doing that, and the way if I can teach you either to make a you know, good good recipe of a delicious food or a delicious drink, you know better. I think people when when they hear the word party, they think something like super elaborate. It could be like a dinner party. YEA many times have we gotten together with brunch? Will not us personally all that we should? You should, definitely, but I mean especially now that I know your husband loves food. Yeah,

he makes so good. Don't worry about me, guys, but speaking right now, but you know, like it's it's you know, even coffee, like grabbing coffee. I think sometimes we tend to like hype everything up so much in our mind that in a way it kind of um it cannibalizes us from actually doing anything. And I feel like we shouldn't be like that. We should all just have fun and chill. Well. I love karaoke, So if I throw a karaoke party at my place, would you guys like

to join? I would love to. What's your favorite song? Um? I like um Outcast? Yeah, it's like that gets the crowd going saying, I wonder all by Oasis. That's a good one, you really feel. I'm Africa from Toto. Wait, how does that go? I Kiss the Rains down and a Africa Bless the Rains. Oh my god, I've been singing this song for so much, and this is why I have to go to karaoke because I don't know any lyrics, so I need stuff up on this space

there for you the entire Yeah. Yeah, so karaoke party, karaoke party, but make sure you use even Yeah yeah, I'll send you any um so do give any party words for the listeners out there. Maybe want to plug the website or anything like that. Yeah, so you know, find us on social media. We're at evid our. Our next show is eighteenth on our Facebook page. It's at ten ay and Pacific standard time. Um, so make sure to check it out. And Vanessa and I be guests. Oh my god, we love Oh my god, guys, I

love d I Y stuff. Would do so much more than that, but yeah, come on, okay, no, but I know you guys also do d Y stuff. So I was like, come on, so you can use her for the d I Y stuff and you can use me for everything else. I don't know. I'm not good at d I y stuff. You know what, neither am I, So you'd be a perfect you guys should come on. When was that May? Yeah, I'm going to be in Kentucky, but the following two weeks from the following the fallow Yeah,

so we're every other week a second. Yeah, don't give me that, look, Vanessa, I'm gonna a rock climbing trip to Red River Gorge. Okay, I was just wondering what was going on climbing. That's amazing. Yeah, one of times we'll go in a way, we'll have a party here inviting me to a lot of things. I don't want to over commit, but I'm down And I think that's the other thing, over committing to, like saying yes to

a party that you maybe not want to think. That's super hard too, because nowadays everyone says yes to everything with the hope that like, oh, I'll just like that, And I hate myself for it too. I do it all the time, and it's like, at this you should be a little more realistic when you say yes the stuff. But at the same time, like people understand when they're throwing to get together a party when they're just hanging out that people are going to say, No, that's just life,

you know. Don't don't let that stop you from having a good time. Perfect. Well, thank you for joining us, guys, for having me. I appreciate you. Thank you so much. Um, incredible story. That's two weeks in a row. We have someone that met their significant other now yeah, now husband because Caleb RT now married. Maybe one day we'll have

a story like that too. No not together, not together maybe no, but you should have seen deep an interview that in stuff there's a romance and our own personal stories. I mean, I was commenting on your Instagram live yesterday to get a single. I did not see you commenting. We're actually now Facebook Instagram friends. I was like, yeah, I thought I am team Danessa over here. What about the Dean anyway? For me? Thank you, thank you. I feel politter already. I feel like our etiquette as a

whole just skyrock did um if I may polite? Um. My wife said to me last night Mother's Day is Sunday, and she, my wife, is in charge of getting our parents gifts, which I know was not fair, and it's wonderful that she does that. But she does gifts from my mother, my father on Father's Day, their birthdays. She takes care of it. I'm very that's a great wife. It's a great wife. She said to me last night, your mom texted me and said, don't get me anything

for Mother's Day. And honestly, I didn't have any ideas anyway. So can you just send her some flowers or something. I'm going to put that on you. I said, this fine. You know what I should get her. I should get her Sherry's berries. And my wife said, wait a minute, is that those chocolate cover berries? Yeah, okay, get those from me. Mom, whatever you want, but get those from me. So now I'm getting my mom and my wife Sherry's berries for Mother's Day. That's a great idea. And Mother's

Day just three or it is on Sunday. It's on Sunday, May lucky numb. What is today Tuesday? We're talking five days and five days, and Sherry's Burriers can deliver within those five days. I did this last night, absolutely no worries. No, I mean, I agree. I think people should be considering alternative gifts for their mothers for Mother's Day. The flowers, of course, they're great, they're beautiful. Maybe you can even include the flowers with you can. I can. That's what

I'm getting. I'm getting a dozen rainbow roses and the dozen chocolate covered berries, and not all the same. There are an assorted berries and you can get them in different chocolates, right, milk chocolate, dark chocolate, white chocolate. That's what all happens. And then the rainbow roses. You could also get rainbow tulips. It's about the same price from Sherry's Berries. And when I did, I clicked on the microphone in the corner, I put in the code day

and there it was. It said radio deal unlocked and they're all my options. That's us. That's the radio, is it? You know? I used to buy flowers all the time for whether it's just like friends, for myself, for ex girlfriends that I was dating at the time, and I always saw that little microphone in the upper right hand corner, but I've never been able to utilize it before. So what's great now is our listeners that notice that microphone are able to do it by just putting in dating

into the little microphone area. If you go to berries dot com, that's it, really berries dot com. I still can't believe they own that, and I think they start off at what they got some really great deals on there, which if you've ever gotten flowers delivered before, they're like fifty sixty seventy dollars for just a bouquet flowers. But what Cherry's Berries does is flowers and chocolates and berries. You can do, and you can do, or you can do.

All of it blows my mind. So basically, what you can do is go to berries dot com to get your fresh, juicy strawberries dipped in milk, dark and white chocolate, um, whatever it is. Even the mixtures, what are those called? The swirls they do the swizzles. I'm a fan of swirls. Um, you choose your delivery day, it's guaranteed customer satisfaction always is number one for them, or you get your money back. It's more than just berries, like we've been talking about.

They've added new treats like cake pops, strawberry cheesecake bites, and artisans artisanal chocolate truffles. I'm gonna say right now, my favorite dessert of all time is cheesecake. So if you guys feel like getting me one of these things. I'll definitely take the strawberry cheesecake bites gave Merries berries and and I get the so okay, so I buy you the Sherry's berries and then I get yeah, getting

of the berries. Okay, that's fine. But you know, obviously what I'm gonna do is go to berries dot com and put it the code dating in save myself a little bit of money. Obviously make you really happy on on Mother's Day, which you're kind of like a mother, Like I feel like I kind of am. You know, I have like my nephew, I have my students, your students, pets. I do not have, well my sister's dog. But you're

a mother, all right. But I'm getting you at Sherry's Berriers from Mother's Day one more time Barries dot com. Use code dating, get a great deal on Mother's Day, and I promise whoever you get it for, I will not be disappointed. If we can, I'd like to get rid of some of the rumors that have been swirling about you, Dean. Yeah. In fact, Eastern has seen some I know on Reddit, Reddit, what is what is one

you've seen? Like for sure that we want to just bounce off and are there any truth to this or not. I've been wondering this personally as well as the members of the Internet at large. They've been pictures with you with a certain young lady whose name may or may not beginning with a letter K, named Christina, and everyone thinks you're with her Christie. No. No, And this is the thing too. We just talked. We just discussed this

very briefly. There have been so many rumors circulating about me over the past seven days, and it just blows my mind where any of this stuff even comes from. I guess people are wondering what your dating life is like. I feel like I share it every day on this every week on this podcast. Yeah, but I feel like if you take a picture with someone who's like the of the opposite sex, they're gonna be like, oh, I

guess they're dating. Or if they see you walking around with someone, they're going to assume you know that you guys are dating. It's I mean, I guess. But so even like on Instagram or something, sometimes it's hard to see like every comment and all that kind of stuff.

But sometimes you'll see like these fake Instagram accounts get made and then leave comments like I remember this one specifically from like four or five days ago that was like, Dean, how could you You're such a jerk, Like You're making out with Kendall during the day at stage Coach and then making out with Christina later that night at stage Coach, And I'm just like looking at it, like I wasn't

making out with either the people at Stage Coach. This is absolutely mind blowing and like and this, like this narrative is being put out there by people that I have absolutely no idea what they're talking about, which means people that are lesser informed see that and potentially could believe it, which is just so frustrating. That's the Internet, and I keep saying, don't believe everything you read, of course.

And then and then I jump on Twitter like a day or two after that, and I see an article written by like celeb Gossip or something that was talking about how Dean and Brandy Cyrus are now dating each other and Dean is just in a data until he leaves her Bachelor in Paradise come June first, and I'm looking at this and I texted Brandy a screenshot of it. I was like, Brandy, I guess we're dating now, I don't know if you knew this, boyfriends, I think like

the most alarming thing is Bachelor in Paradise. Yeah. Well, and as I've said before, and I said, we'll continue to say, there's no chance I'm going to Bachelor in Paradise. I'll maybe continue to like tease the possibility of it, but no, come on, people, there's no way I'm ever going back there. Um, it's just so frustrating. So way, Dean, you are not which, By the way, I love both Brandy and Christina and Kendall. I have never met Kendall, but I'm sure she seems like a love she seems

like a lovely persons, very nice. Yeah, she's my friend, close friend. Really, because you met her, I've hugged her twice. I think that counts. It's the second hug that really breaks the Barrea. Yeah, well, okay, so you're not dating anyone, not dating anyone, You're not even talking to anyone, not like flirtatiously texting anyone or exchanging any d ms at anyone saw me at the wedding. I was just dancing around a bunch of my bros. Would you qualify yourself

as single? A f single I think that's a very accurate qualification. When was the last time you kissed someone? How many weeks ago? To the dirty details, it's very dirty. Probably March March fourteen. Yeah, March fourteenth, I think is the last day that I kiss someone. Thank you for the precis. Because I left for India March fourteen or so. Whichever day that I left for India, Leslie and I drove to the airport together because she was flying back

to Arkansas. And I met Leslie on Saturday. She was lovely too. Maybe that's why people don't trust you necessarily, because you did keep that relationship hidden for a while while Winter Games aired. You had to, and maybe that's why people people feel like you're not as forthcoming as you could be. But you haven't done any reality shows. There's no reason to be hiding anything at this point. No, except I mean I would I don't know. Yeah, you're right,

I don't think I would hide anything even if I did. Okay, I just like I'm I'm just kind of the person that's like, if something's going on, I don't care enough to keep it secret from anyone, and I'll just talk about it. No, candle, No, Christina, no Brandy. On the contrary, we're actually I'm dating all three of them right now and no paradise, no paradise for the record. And yeah, so so we saw Leslie at the g wed this past weekend and everything was good between us. Yeah, you

guys were talking we matched funny enough, you did? And oh yeah you did. She had like this dark green dress that she wore and I walked up to it and I was like, so you decided to match me this for the wedding and she was like, I honestly had no idea you were wearing that. It was like the dress that she wore out of the limo on Chon loew season And I just like randomly picked my tucks out at the tuxedo rental place and that sure enough, they're like the exact same color. Pretty funny, but it

was fun. Danced around quite a bit. That was a great wedding. Vanessa burnt grilled cheese on Oh my god. Yeah, well I was hungry. I'm always hungry, like I love to eat. Actually, wait, there was a question. Oh okay, wait, so there was this article that I read and it's

about um talking money talk with your significant other. And if you are going into a serious before you get into a serious relationship with someone, you should have that money talk with the person, which I think isn't that awkward to start talking about like, oh, what are your bank state statements? Like do you have any debt? Or like how much money do you save a month? And how much money do you make? Isn't that too early to have those types of conversations with someone before you

get into an exclusive relationship with them? But in this in this article, they suggest that you have those conversations before you become exclusive. Hold on, there's a point of this story anyway. One of the questions was, um, what hold on? Let me pull it up here. Um, that's a good question to have when you're engaged or in that. Well, they say to have those conversations prior to that, so then it's kind of like you can escape that situation

before like situation if they're horribly in debt. Yeah, I don't this is what the article was saying. I'm just like re quoting the article. But the point of this conversation was what's the thing you'll always be willing to spend cash on? And my answer to that is food. I don't care how poor I am. I want to be able to spend my money on my food. You don't mean just basic food and shelter. You mean, like, no, you want to eat good food, not even good food.

I just like having a fridge full of food. I like having options, I like having snacks, I like eating. So anyway, after it's like the no point of this conversation. But after the wedding, I got home and I'm like, oh my god, I'm starving. So I made myself a grill cheese and I burnt it. So that's the conversation that we were having about my my burnt grill cheese. I thought it was a burnt piece of French toast

at first, but it was my grilled cheese. Um. But that is an interesting topic, and I think that both Mark and Easton canswer that best if you want to. Of course, like, at what point in your relationship did you have a conversation with finding about finances with your significant other. I'll go first because it's a pretty short answer. Remember, my wife was very young when we first met. But you did manage to accumulate quite a bit of debt in the first couple of years of our relationship, just

going to school and living out here. And there's some long story there I don't have to get into. But um I took it upon myself working at full time job at Disneyland at the time, So I paid off for debt because we all we both knew where this was going. That sounds like an amazing job. By the way, it was a great job. I hosted who Wants to Be a Millionaire? Show What Yes at disneyl Hand on television.

I'm sitting next to a celebrity, That's right, and uh, it was the best job I've ever had to this day. But anyway, um, so, so we took care of that because if you're both on the same page, then everything's fine. And so I paid our stuff off because I don't want that to be I don't want to be saddled with that once we do get married. Let's take care of that, because I feel like, if they're the one and the love is there, there's no situation financially you

can't work through together. Eastern we are. You know, my wife and I had been friends for almost a decade before we started dating, and uh, we already knew each other's situation. Just from that, Like it came just over the years, Like she'd be like, oh, my student loans really suck. This is how much I owe in student loans, and like I don't have much debt on my playing card. But when we got engaged, we like sat down and compared and hash out the numbers, but like it wasn't

anything that was going to make or break. So this was post engagement though. Yeah, so like the actually the time we actually had the conversation was when we realize our finances would be join, you know, we'd be combining things. I guess you want to make sure I didn't have like a secret account or something like that. It is

definitely an interesting topic. But like for me specifically, I've been pretty poor, like my entire life growing up until I was twenty four years old, I've been like I live paycheck to paycheck, uh, and certain yeah, of course, so I ended up until probably like right around when I moved to l A. And even then, like I was still like struggling but doing better for myself. Um. And so it's always been kind of like a sensitive subject, I guess just because I wasn't super confident with where

I was at. Um. But things have gotten better obviously recently, and I think I'm open more to discussing it, but not to the point where I'm like sharing my bank account information with anyone that I'm dating. Just yeah, I feel like that's like an engaged thing. I mean, I don't know. That's why I was asking throwing the question to you guys, because I don't know when the right time is to ask these kinds of I mean, they're important. It's an important to cover, especially because I'm such a saver.

I save like of what I make. Yeah, I'm like, so, I you know, my when my grandparents immigrated from Italy, they came into Canada with like nothing flip flops and they just you know, they made their way, and um, luckily, you know, we have the life that we have thanks to my grandparents. So Ever, since you know, I was fourteen and I got my first job, my grandfather told me, like, Okay, this is how you should manage your money. So I've always been very I wouldn't say stingy, but I've been

very careful with what I spend. Um. So yeah, for me, it's important to be with someone who appreciates the value of a dollar. That's a deal record for a lot of people. If somebody's are real spendthrift and the other person is super frugal, you're gonna have problems. It's funny that we bring this up to because just so, I had my therapy appointment yesterday, four weeks in. By the way,

it's going really well. And she talks about how not only is she like a relationship and like a regular type of therapist, she's also a career therapist in a financial therapist as well. I guess which is a thing. Maybe I'm butchering the title of No, you're right, this is what it says in the article financial therapist. Yeah. So, so we talked a little bit for maybe like twenty minutes about my spending habits and how all of us

are basically, uh, products of our parents. Like the way we watched our parents spend is basically how we learned how to spend our money as well. Um, And it's just it was so interesting to hear, like because Vanessa says she's a saver, which is incredible, eight percent of every dollar you make, you basically save. For the most part, I was also living at my mom's house though, so I wasn't paying rent. Yeah, and I'm super lomaintenanced to like I don't really have much to pay every month

other than rent and maybe like insurance whatever it is. Um. But yeah, she was like we were like sat down. She's like, so, what have you been buying lately? And I was like, going through it, I was like, holy cow, I'm spending way too much money, money that I never would have spent before. But like, you always spend within your means, I guess. So that's something that I'm currently working on with my therapist now, is to control the spending. That's a danger that we were we run into as well.

If you make more money, you spend more money, but you don't have to. The key the key, it seems like, and I've been told this and I don't live this, and I wish I did. The key to long term wealth and prosperity is to live below your means. Yes, yeah, is to kind of keep spending like you were before and just put away as much as you play. It's hard to think long term though, it is, especially when

the money's coming in right. Well, you never know like when the money's going to stop, right, So I always say, like I was comfortable when you know, I was teaching and I was making the salary that I was making. I was very careful with what I was spending. And now I'm like, I'm still going to act that way. I'm still gonna act like that's smart. Yeah, that's super respectable. Yeah. But that's the thing I want to be able to.

You know, the person that I'm with, I want to make sure that they are also that and you know, have that mind frame too, because they say the number one cause of divorce other than like lack of communication is financial problems and like maybe secrecy when it comes to finances and stuff. Certainly the biggest argument arguments, Yeah, is that to any varying degree, like if he spends a little bit more, a little bit less, you're okay with it? Or does it have to be kind of

like spot on? No, I just don't. I'm not materialistic, so I don't care if you have like a Porsche, you know, like, don't spend money on a car when for the record, let me just say this real quick. I drove Venessa home last week. No hold on the car felt like it was breaking down, Like is your car going to break down on the way to my apartment right now. I'm like, no, it's just a Jeep Vanessa.

They're allowed in there. It's three okay, No, But it was like it didn't have doors and stuff, so I I like it didn't have a roof that I was scared. I was like, there's no roof. It's a jeep, you guys, and I had didn't have doors once I put the doors back on last week. I love your call you right now, I'm not I'm not backpeddling. He doesn't need to have a Porsche. But I'm gonna whatever. Let's go on to the next segment. That thing up yourself, didn't you? Um? No,

I did not. I bought it lifted and had already big thirty threes and all that kind of stuff on it. But I do plan on dropping a diesel engine into it pretty soon. Yeah, baby, Do you spend money on a gym membership? Um? I just cancel my gym membership because I think I'm going to be getting one through Beach Body. Wait for real, have you heard of Beach on Demand? They're awesome. You don't even tell me you

don't even need a gym membership. Basically, what you do instead of going to a gym and being in that freaking iron cathedral with so many other people waiting your turn to use the workout equipment whatever it is you used, Gonna work out at home just basically like logging on a Netflix or something like that, you log onto Beach Body on Demand. They have a bunch of stuff like P nine Yes in Sanity, twenty one day Fix, hip hop abs, which I've been practicing a lot lately for

two reasons. One because I really want apps and two because I really want rhythm, and one of that are coming. The rhythm maybe not so much one is more the other, right, but you know what, I'm still gonna fight it and try and get it either way. Um, there's hundreds of effective workouts on there, from bodybuilding to weightlifting, to to yoga to even dance workouts. Like I said that hip hop as ads work out, they're usually like ten minutes, maybe a little bit longer than that, depending on kind

of what you're looking for. But like I said, I love them. I basically canceled my gym membership solely because I loved Beach Body on Demand so much. Um. There's over one million people currently on beach Body on Demand. And to our listeners right now, out of help. I suck at dating. You can try absolutely free if you text Dean to thirty thirt thirty. I'm sure you guys have heard me talk about it before. That's d e An too. Three zero three zero three zero. Um, maybe

log on and hip hop abs. I do it every morning at seven am. So if you're you know, in the West Coast time zone, and you're up at seven am and you want to do hip hop apps work out with me. We can kind of pretend like we're in the same room. I'm going to be texting this. I want I want this, So think about a think about you know, you watch Netflix, you started one place, you finish it on your phone, you finish it on your ipadt you fish in a hotel room somewhere. Is

the same idea. I have yet to use Beachbody on demand on a public transit system, but I think that might be the next step. You're gonna be clenching your kegles. I'm doing kegles right now. As a matter of fact, you guys don't do that. We have them, we can do I've I've I'm very confused. I've done them before. In college when I was curious about what would happen. Um, anyway, it's go ahead and text Dean to three zero three zero zero. You can try beach Body on demand and

get some sweet hip hop abs just like me. Um, give it a try. I promise you won't regret it. Summers right on the corner. So now's the time to sign up? Yeah, I wait for real? Yeah? Men, do this are the well? Both hold on so I can get this for free. I'm all about the bree You can get full access the entire platform. Yes, okay, absolutely free. I will do that. But keegels, yeah for what your but I just I just looked it up as a

matter of fact, No you can't. It improves endurance, oh right right right, yes, yes, yes, yes, I know what else is it improve? It? Endurance and well and also just like really, I don't know. I think it has benefits in the bedroom. I think there's also benefits I don't know, longevity, like longevity, Um, like when you have to go pee that you can hold it better. Yeah,

called again, I was thinking incontinence. Yeah, in continence when you can't hold it her that ke muscles can help if you're having trouble holding it, or if you're dribbling, Oh, that's news to me. I always thought of it more of as a performance thing. I think that's also a reason people exercise those muscles. She would keep talking about this or John move on to something else. I just thought it was something you could do on public trends that when no one one knows you're doing it. That's

why I brought it up. Hey, we got some emails that I feel like we should read because people want your advice. I hope they asked about les On there. Kira says, I had a really good friend who was seeing a guy for a few months, but broke things off with him because she didn't think they were compatible. I had become really close with this guy. He told me he didn't want our friendship to end, and my girlfriend said she had no problem with him and I

staying friends. Well, I developed feelings for him. We talked to every single day. He was very flirty with me and always initiated plans to hang out. I noticed my girlfriend stopped wanting to hang out with me, but when we were in the same group, she acted like nothing could changed. Six months later, the guy tells me he's seeing my friend again. I didn't even know they were on speaking terms. They've been dating for almost a year now, and she has completely cut me off and refuses to

talk to or acknowledge me even in groups. I don't hang out with her boyfriend one on one anymore, but he still texts me every single day. If they're a way to get over him without losing this friendship? Also, do you think I should try to repair my friendship with the girl? I do miss her? Oh? This is tangled? Um. Well, the one thing that stood out when she said I end up developing feelings for him. We talked every single day. I always say this, be careful who you hang out with,

because you might just start liking them for sure. So I think on like, you're gonna stop hanging out with new people because you might develop feelings for them. Well, no, I'm just saying. I think when it comes to like, if you have like you know, you kind of have like that kind of there is some sort of chemistry and the longer you hang out with them, yeah, I think it is for a girl to romanticize the Relationship's gonna say right now, you probably should uber back to

your apartment. Because I'm worried that we're going to develop feelings for each other. That's how ridiculously ridiculous. No, this, no, Sean, I talked to you on Tuesday's. I do not talk to you every single day like zero. This is obviously is a little b different of a situation because they talk every day. But you still shouldn't, I don't know, continue to continue your life. Well that was wait, that was my thing one to UM, I do find it?

Hold on it does my girlfriend stopped wanting to hang out with me, so I obviously I think that at that point your friend Kira was starting to talk to the guy again, and probably because she knew that Kira and this guy we're talking every day, and so she gets a little jealous, maybe a little bit possessive, and she's like, actually want this guy back now? Yeah, well, I think here you have to ask yourself what's more important to your friend, the friendship with the guy or

your friendship with the girl. And to me, I think it would be that your friendship with the girl, because that's who you were friends with before you got introduced to UM. I agree, it sounds like the friendship with the girls a little more important than with the guy. Yeah, but I think they're both doomed. I'm afraid as friendships go, I think it's over for both of them. And I'm sorry. And we talked about this on Scrub and in this week.

Friendships have there's seasons for life, for everything. As time you pointed out, some friendships are only meant for a certain part of your life and want for your whole life. And that's okay. And if it's meant to be, you guys will find your way back to each other. But it's not worth losing your mind over. That's true. So do you think what I suggest, Kira maybe blocks the

guy's number or is that too drastic? Nah? It just sets the precedent and sets the You know what I would do, I would be the bigger person and write to them being like, hey, guys heard you're back together. I wish you guys the best of luck. Hope you're

happy and smiling. Kira, so put him in a group chat or yeah, maybe a group or I don't know, maybe send it to your girlfriend or and and to him separately, but just or maybe a group chat so you're not, like, you know, doing it behind anyone's back, but I would be the bigger person and just send him a message. Maybe, but they've been together a year, so it might be a little aiming and that. I also I don't like that he's texting her every day. That's not about I forgot about that. So Kira, forget

that group. Maybe you do block him. I think you need to move on with your life. I think you need to let him move on and focus on the relationship that he's into. Granted, maybe doesn't sound like it might be the best one because he's texting you every day, But if it sounds like nothing happened between here and this guy, so there's no real like foul play. But he seems to be kind of keeping her on the

back burner just in case. Totally unfair and that I believe we call that benching, and there's we do not want. So Yeah, so I'm gonna stick with it and say heresh to block the guy. Well, now I agree. I think she should block him mentally and through text block him and move on. I think you'll be friends with her again someday, hopefully. A lot of the emails we get our boy the shore was going great and then now all of a sudden, he's cooled off to me. And here's another one of these, but I think we

usually end up with he found somebody else. But anyway, this is called Subway No Response guy. Nicole is twenty four years old. She's working in New York City. I like this one because it kind of paints a nice picture of her life. It's kind of an exciting wife. She's been single for six years and ready for a boyfriend again. She met a guy on the subway in New York. The first time I saw him, we made eye contact. I didn't know what to say. We ran into each other twice in a week, and I ended

up getting his number. We went out for coffee his idea this past weekend. He had mentioned something during the day about grabbing lunch. I followed up but got no response. I just thought, okay, that's the end. Another invite to dust no a big deal. However, Monday morning he texted me bright and early, so I'm a dick, I'm sorry, and you offered to make up for it. We went out. It was great. He was so apologetic about our plans from the weekend before. I texted him, thinking for lunch

and a great time and he never responded. I've noticed he isn't big on his phone, and I'm not sure if it's because he's older. He's thirty one. I bumped into him twice today and we said hello, He made a joke, he went back to work. How do I bring up the whole texting thing to him? I feel like this could be a good thing. I don't want to ruin up by seeming patty and wanting a text back. Help.

I suck at dating Nicole. Oh, that sounds like me, Like what do I do if I, um, dean, what would you do if your a kind of response would you want from her? I got excited about this because she capitalized subway, and so I thought she met him at a subway, and I was going to ask or something. I mean, I love subway personally. I think that. I think the common theme we see what this too, as Mark said, is it starts strong, it fizzles a little bit, and then people kind of like dwell on it and

focus a little bit too much onto it. It's like, for instance, Nicole years old, lives in New York City. She's been single for six years, and so maybe I think she's putting a lot of pressure on this relationship even though it's never really taken off anywhere. I don't know. Listen, if a guy's into you, he will call you, he will text you, he will want to see you. And

that's my point. That's what I'm saying. And I feel like she's putting too much emphasis on this relationship even though it's not reciprocated and it doesn't really seem to be like much is going on there, you know what I mean. But maybe because she's been single for six years, she's kind of grasping at straws and kind of hoping that this is the relationship that's going to pull her

out of that single funk. Yeah. I think when you like date someone, or you one on a day with someone, or if you're in a relationship, you kind of like put up you you make excuses for the person that

you're dating. But Nicole, if you put yourself outside of the situation and you know you're reading this what you just sent us, I think you would probably tell yourself like, hey, if he's not giving you the signs that he's into you, or you know, he's not giving you what you need and deserve, then I would, you know, make wait for him to make a move again, and I wouldn't. I wouldn't ask him why he hasn't texted back. And and look,

I've been this guy before too. I've been the guy that gives the spreadic texts, will bump into a be casual, be polite, and be even if you're into a girl. What's what I'm saying. So let me So I've been this guy where I'll see him and be polite, be casually, be friendly, all that kind of stuff, like go on like maybe like even like a friend day hang out. It doesn't sound like they're hooking up. But just if in my position, if I was that guy, it would

just mean that I'm not interested at all. And so if he's not interested in her, then she shouldn't be interested in a relationship with him right now if it doesn't seem like that's where it's trending towards. Yeah, And I don't think because he's thirty one n thirty one year old text and call and it's very it's human instinct to make excuses for these people, and we all do it, and you're doing now. I think, thank you

know he's not very good at texting. Oh you know he's so busy, but like you said, if he's into you, you would absolutely know it. So I think I love how you met. That's such a cute story making eye contact on the subway at such a movie. But I don't know that this is happening right right now. Listen, I dated a guy this is pre bachelor days, where we met on a train from Toronto to Montreal and we sat like, so he had seen me five years prior to that in a line at a breakfast listen

years later. Yeah, So then, like I was, I was boarding the train and I wasn't feeling well, so I had I was struggling to put my my luggage on the train. Someone tasked me from behind. He's like, hey, do you need help, and they turned around. I'm like, oh my god, it's the guy that had messaged me five years ago when he saw me in line. So we ended up sitting next to each other on the train and I'm like, oh my god, so here I am a girl even Essa romanticizing the relationship. We're gonna

end up together because it's meant to be. We have such a great love story. I mean, it didn't end up working out, obviously, I went on The Bachelor, but yeah, that was That's sad though, isn't it when the great meetings don't turn into an amazing relationships? And I think that should have been great. At that point, I was just so in love with the story that I wanted it to work out because it was such a great, cute story. So what were the next steps that unraveled

in the relationship. Well, he was living in Toronto at the time, I was in Montreal, so we did long distance and I think at a point we just realized we wanted we wanted the same things, but not at the same time in our life. Were at different were at different stages in our life. And for those that don't know the listeners of the podcast, Toronto is in the province Ontario and Montreal is in the province Quebec. Yes, geography, and so there's a little geography lesson for today. For

for this two. Maybe all those romantic comedies we watched, you know, serendipity and where the they at the end they're so happy. Maybe it's not forever after though maybe those end poorly too. We don't see their whole lives. That's why I don't like watching movies. That's actually a funny thought that I had the other day too, is growing up. You watch all these movies, like these cute rom comms, love stories, whatever it is, but all we see is the chain up until they get together. They

get together, and then the movie's over. You know, except the notebook because the spoiler Emily is she's twenty eight. She's never had a serious boyfriend. All my life have been completely open with my friends and my family, but unable to talk to and open up to people I don't know. I told myself this year I would finally put myself out there and maybe even get on a dating app. I've always had reservations about them, but I'm trying to get over that. It's it's a perfectly normal thing.

I think. I'm always concerned I won't be able to keep the conversation going. I've been thinking more and more about how you always say, what is the worst that can happen? Right? That is our advice. You gotta shoot your shot. They'll say, no, we'll move on any advice for getting out there. Thank you for your insight and being so open and honest each week. It is truly refreshing. Hopefully soon I will suck less at dating. That is Emily. Oh, Emily, listen.

I was talking about this last week on the podcast. If I were in a position where yes, I said that I'm dating someone, if I were in a position I did say that, is that going? So wait, I want to talk about what's what's the what's your definition of dating versus my definition of dating is like leading to possibly a relationship? Yes, okay, so I'm dating someone. Okay, Well, let's let's hear uh. We have somebody that you've heard before on this show named Erica who is now in

a relationship. We talked her before when she was crushing on her oral surgeon. That's over and done with. She has a boyfriend. The definition we'll get back. We'll get back to Emily and a second. But the definition of dating someone you happened last night or two nights ago, whenever it was what the talk? No, but that's not the yeah than it was five days ago? Um No. But the definition of the definition of dating someone is before the talk happens, you're dating and now I'm in

a relationship. Yeah, okay, congratulations. By the way, I don't know why people congratulate people in relationship, because this whole show was about the struggle of finding one. Yeah, and I are you happy? I'm super happy? Then congratulations, Okay, thank you. The last time the listeners heard from you, you were very not in a relationship. That's true. You were in the abyss. How long ago is that? Two weeks ago? Okay? What? No? I was very not in

a relationship like seven weeks ago. Now look at her. It can happen that fast. It can happen that fast. But that's what I mean. So I am anyway, it's not about me. Let's talk about it. Okay. But then the question is for you. Are you in a relationship? You are dating? Are you in a relationship? Mark asking the hard hitting questions over here? I am dating someone and he makes me very happy. And this comes back to wait, who was it, Nicole? So the guy that

I am dating? Wait wait, no, I'm actually gonna say something important here. So when I so, when I first met when I first met um, this guy that I'm dating. So last night, when I was my brain is everywhere.

So last night when I was doing the live the live show on my my my Instagram, I was talking about you know, when you first meet someone the first date of the second date, You're never truly yourself until like the third or fourth date, when you can be like, okay, like I made it to the third day, let me really like shed you know, a couple of those layers, and let me start being more of myself. So when I went on a date with this guy, I didn't not want to go on a date with him. I'm like,

I don't think I see myself with him. I you know, I don't think it's gonna work out. So I asked him. He asked me to go out for dinner. I was like, sure, let's go off a dinner at six because I didn't want to go for dinner later because I wanted to

be in bed by like ten o'clock. I ended up staying out with him until one am, and we just were We had so much in common, and it was just so nice to be in the presence of someone who genuinely just had interest in your life as as you know, as as a teacher, as a person, as like outside of bachelor world, and and so I had such a really good connection with him. And then you know, like we're sot talking at this point. So anyways, that's what I was trying to I want to talk about

that with Nicole. I had a genuine connection with this guy. No, but when Nicole was talking about like the subway girl, like he was, he was calling me, he was texting me the next day, he was, you know, like wishing me good night, making sure I got home okay, like he was. He was giving me all the signs that he was interested in. Now, Emily, if I was in a position where I was, you know, like single, single,

I would definitely go on a dating app. Because that's what she was asking, right, Yeah, that's what you put herself back out there. Should she throw it out there? Yeah? Yeah, I mean why, like exactly what would what is there to lose? I mean, I agree. I think that I struggled with something very similar to Emily before. Funny enough, before going on the show, was I just didn't really open up to many people about my feelings and my emotions and all that kind of stuff, which I still

struggle with. But I've gotten better at so I understand. And I think the only advice that I can offer to Emily is the more that you attempt to do it and the more that you talk about the things that you feel or the things that have affected you positively or negatively. The easier it gets every time you do it, and the stronger connections are going to build with whomever it is, whether it's a person you're dating casually, um, whether it's a potential boyfriend, or whether it's just a

regular friend. I think that the more you talk about those things, the more you open up, the easier it will become. Um. That's that's my advice that I had to get her. Yeah. I think the more people you meet, the better chance you are you going to find somebody that you really like spending time with. But I think her hesitation was that she just is unable to open

up about things. And that's what she said sitting in there. Yeah. Yeah, which has been completely open to my friends and family, but don't know how to open up to people I don't know, I think. I mean, yeah, it's hard to like be vulnerable and and you know, especially with someone that you don't know. But once you do it, I mean, I love being vulnerable, but also you take it one step at a time. You don't to worry about that

right now. Right now, you just worry about meeting somebody you can worry about opening up to them as you come along. Now, Erica, Yes, I was just so like Mark has seen me through this entire progression of like meeting my boyfriend. I don't say that word much meeting my boyfriend, and then I was I was so closed off to it for a couple of weeks and was like, whatever, I'm just going to go on the dates. It's fine,

It's fine. Um, but it's like once you really get to know someone, that's when you can actually start to like open up and have the real conversations. And there was like this one date that we went on where I suddenly was ready to open up and I almost cried to him, and we both say that was the day that like things actually got serious. So I think it takes time and it's not immediate, but you should definitely put yourself out there because it actually works. So

so there you go. She didn't you know, bumble the harmony they work. I mean, you can find people. They can be frustrating, they can be um, they can really suck a lot of your time if you let them, but they also can be very successful. So we're very happily happy for do you want to do one more email. I do have one more. This is for you, Dean. You said last week you wouldn't date an eighteen year old, and that really bothered the eighteen year olds in their audience.

Jen says, Dean mentioned you would not did a nineteen year for certain reasons. What about someone who's going to be twenty one is in college? Now? I think she's talking about herself, but she makes it more general. Is it the fact that they're still in school? Is it the fact that they can't go out and drink? Like?

What is it about this age that bothers you. I've always been someone who dates older, but it always feel bad with My boyfriend would get up to go to work for the day and I'd get up and go to a couple of classes. And my question is for someone older, is being twenty going to be twenty one and age issue? Ps? I love the fact that Vanessa

and Jared have been in the studio lately. Dean. It's such a tricky question because you can't like generalize and say everyone that's twenty one years old is too young to day seven year old. Of course, there are like certain circumstances we're like, oh, you're a very unique twenty one year old that maybe like I'm not mature, I'm I act very immaturely just generally, like on a daily basis,

we can all agree with that. I think I always say guys mature kicking and screaming eventually, but that's just like that's just my regular Ben is the same way. Ben is a very mature like stand up guy, but he acts very childish and so many ways that's like his fun loving side and that we all adore so much.

And I'd like, I feel like I'm somewhat the same way, maybe a little bit behind in certain areas though, because Ben obviously is um is great, but it's just it's it's hard to picture dating someone that isn't kind of that hasn't been able to experience life at that point yet, because as a twenty one year of college student, Like when I look at myself when I was twenty one and in college, I just such a shadow of myself, Like I couldn't even recognize him right now, Like we're

such completely different people, you know, between the past six years from now till then, and so for me to be interested in dating someone that's at that similar walk in life that I was back then. It just doesn't even register to me, like I have no interest in in that, I guess, if that makes sense, I guess. But I also think that women are mature much more quickly than men do. I mean I I dated women

in college and they were all just the same. Yeah, I mean maybe a little bit of course elevated than I was, for sure, but it's just it's still not something that I would be interested in now at this point in my life. You know, I could always speak from my experience. I have twenty six years eighteen, and we were right on the same level. So it worked for me. I think it was a different time, not to like date you or anything. That's fine, has changed

quite a bit. Was ten years older than I was, Oh okay, yeah, and I was waiting warmer than him. How old were you? I was twenty four, he was thirty four, and we were like nine years apart. Sorry, okay, but you feel like you remember sure that he was at the time, and he will still admit to that. He agrees something about guys. I'm telling you when I was when I was twenty three, I went on a date with a nineteen year old and it just was so evident the age difference. Maybe that's just her though

nineteen and you were three. Yeah, but I think nineteen versus twenty one. There there's I mean, it's still it's a couple of years, but I think it a significant amount of it was just one day in one person. Obviously, it's different from person to person, especially from relationships relationship. I'm just saying from my experience, I've never necessarily had a reason or a desire to date someone at that age. I say, you have to be open to it. Age

is just the number. I've always been the person that said I want to date older. I want a date older. You know, what if if someone who's younger or my age, or you know, a little bit older, a little bit younger, like if we're on the same wavelength and the same path and we want the same things at the same time, I'm all for it. How old would you go? Well, let's talk about another subject. Interesting, it's pretty soon. How old? Okay? How about how young would you go? Would you dat

a younger man? Yes, no problem. But I think I'm more open to it now than I was before because it has not worked out for me when guys were older. You know, I was dating three year olds, thirty five year olds, thirty six, thirty seven. Never worked out. So I'm like, well, why don't I try something different? You know, if you if you keep on the same pattern, then of course you're going to have the same end result. So I'm open to saying like, hey, you're younger. I'm

not going to pretend you're younger. I'm just gonna forget about your A and I mean in the same way to just I would say like plus or minus five years, I could go down to two. I say that, and I don't necessarily fully agree with me saying it. I go up to thirty two. I guess you know what it's like. I agree that there's no expectation put on age when you're dating. I feel like, but someone that's nine twenty years old, that's just for me. Just if

you click, you click. Certainly, of course, if you click, you click, it doesn't matter the age. Probably better not to not know the age until you get the conversation. Well, legal requirements that I think, well, that's true. Sometimes. Um. One thing I did want to mention before we go talking about saving money earlier, I do not actually buy lunch today because jet Blue sentence pizza, I came in an hour earlier for that pizza, just saying, given five

minutes later, still enjoyed three slices. Actually, New York pizza is its own deal, and you cannot get authentic New York pizza in Los Angeles. And so Jet Blue is doing an amazing thing. They are New York's hometown airline and Jet Blue knows no one does pizza like New York and that's why they're flying their iconic taste of New York across the country to Los Angeles. Patsy's right, Yeah, Patsy's East Ham which is delicious. It was really great

and really authentic New York pizza. It is the first ever coast the coast pizza delivery by an airline. Pie in the sky. They're calling at a limited time program where Jet Blue flies authentic New York pizza from Patsy's and East Haarlem across the US to select el a residence and you have to go to the Jet Blue dot Pizza. How great is that? Way is a suffix pizza. The Suffixes pizza is punch it into your computer. It's

time to be alive. You have the w W w that's in there, and then WWL we got jet Blue dot Pizza. This has been a personal fantasy of mine for many from out of state, and I like, for real, and then I saw it was coming today and I'm like, oh, baby, you should go by easton dot Pizza. That's what you should do, and you don't spoil anything coming there. Like Domino's dot Pizza. There's probably you can purchase some U r L s here and start selling them making money.

I think there's a lot of dots that opened up recently dot com. So you're telling me Dominoes isn't gonna want Domino's Dot Pizza And I think they're all going to want that. Yeah, for sure, I'm gonna go home and buy it right now. Well, it's from May night to the eleventh. What is today? Today is the eight Today's the eighth, So it's this week Wednesday through Friday.

This week, Jet Blue is gonna satisfy cross country cravings with a limited quantity of three and fifty New York pizzas available for purchase each of the three days, more than a thousand pizzas in total. So thank you, Jet Blue. That was delicious. That was delicious. Pepperoni pizza was so good. I do love New York pizza. There is no l A pizza, really is there l A Tacos, But like there's Chicago pizza, there's New York piza. No, it's like a like a not a margarita pizza. But there are

California Pizza Kitchen. They have like avocado on the pizza. No, no, no, no, John and Vinnie's I don't know jon Nis, No, I don't know. You guys have only been here a year and I know John and Um, I'm not going with streets. But it's in West Hollywood and it's like all fentic Italian restaurant, like real Italian food. It's my favorite spot. I'm going to go to all of Garden tonight or when you're there your family, or wait till tomorrow and get Jet Blue to bring me a Patsy's pie because

that sounds delicious. Two days in a row. There you go. Um, this is a fun episode. There's a couple of things I want to mention before we get out of here. There has been a creation of a new Facebook group. Check it out. It's called to help I Suck at Dating to the Facebook. Yeah, it's great. Um, it's a it's a fun place, a fun form to meet like minded listeners. We can share topics and ideas. I'm not active on Facebook typically, but I do like to at least try to get on there, and I'll be say

a couple of things. Get on there. We have the scrubbing in Facebook group and now there's almost famous face. I'll be very act well. And that's the thing too. I saw Becca's has like seventy seven that's insane, and so I saw that and I was like, this is a this is a great thing. And I was like, I should probably make one. And then like the next day, know, someone reach out to me on Instagram. They're like, hey, I'm part of the Becca Tilly's um scrubbing in Facebook group.

Can I make one for the help I suck at dating? And of course I was naturally like, yeah, of course please. That sounds awesome. So, um, be sure to follow on on Facebook if you have any questions or you just want to talk with people that listen to the podcast as well. It's a great place to do just that. Um. There is one other thing we normally don't talk much bachelor on this podcast, which we talked about our lives

through Vanessa, Me and Jared, of course. But what we're gonna do, it's gonna be kind of fun and I want actually to kind of gauge Vanessa's idea of this. Have you heard of batch bracket? Yes, So what we're gonna do is create a help I Suck at Dating batch brackett help I suck at dating group that everyone can sign up under the help I Suck at Dating group and then fill out a batch bracket. Um that

will you know? It's it's obviously just like a fantasy thing like um, fantasy sports for the bache for the Bachelorette, for the new season coming up, becast season, Yes, for this season, and so we're all I'm gonna make one. You're gonna make one. We're gonna come and started to make one. Mark and Easton of course, we would love to have you make Let's do this campaign. Um, and we're gonna have a lot of listeners hopefully make one

as well. And I think at the end of the season, whoever ends up getting first place, we're going to give him some sort of special prize. Oh. I thought maybe we would love to have him to the studio oh my, yeah, imagine we could. I mean we could probably fly Hi out to l A and get into the studio for an episode. I will say, I don't know if you met. We met one of Becca's guys at the wedding on

Saturday and he was very nice, very very nice gentlemen. Um, and that's all we're gonna say about so anyway, So obviously Becca season doesn't start for amlier what two or three weeks, so we have a little bit of time to set this up. But if you're listening and you want to join that batch bracket, go to www dot batch bracket dot com. Um, we're going to have a help I suck at dating group made here pretty soon.

And like I said, me, Vanessa, Easton, Mark, Jared, that's a lot of names, remember, Um, we're all going to make our own and no cheating, no spoilers, stay off reality, Steve, We're going to know who did that if you do it. Um. Anyways, big thank you to Julian Clark from EVA Etiquette. Check out their new videos and check out Vanessa on their d i y page next week eighteen. Thank you to Beach Body on Demand for giving me my hip hop abs.

Thank you to Sherry's Berries for the strawberry cheesecake pops that Vanessa is gonna give me out of the bouquet that I buy her for Mother's Day. Big thank you to Jet Blue Pizza for putting food in our bellies today. Um, if you have any questions or you just want to email some stories that you have to to us to discuss on here, please email him to I Suck at Dating at iHeart media dot com. Thank you Alexis Waters for stopping to hoop Nation. Alexis Waters maybe our most

bleep show every Um. I will not be in studio next week. I'm going to be in Kentucky rock climbing trip with my brother and his girlfriend. Vanessa's giving me a weird face Kentucky. Yes, I understand that I'm not giving you. I love Kentucky to Kentucky. It's great. And I'm going to Red River Gorge with my brother and his girlfriend and five other friends to go rock climbing for seven days. That's so fun. Yes, it is fun,

So stop giving me that weird look. So wait, I'm gonna be swapping you, Jared and you, so it's me and you, and now it's gonna be me and Jared got it. Oh great, but I see how this is. I know what you said earlier. Just because you and Jared are hanging out. I don't want you guys to develop feelings for I'm ering at home. UM anyways, is anything you want to say before we part ways? No? That's oh actually wait, I didn't want I did want to say thank you. I posted this on my um

my Instagram last night. My foundation No Better You. We are selling T shirts to um a school in Montreal, and all the proceeds are going directly to that school for their autism inclusion program. And we only have like largest left in a T shirts and you think there's like maybe ten left, so you guys want to buy. Thank you so much for the support. Um yeah, check it out. No Better You dot com, dot org dot org. My apologies, UM, you still have to give me a shirt so I can post on I only have the

extra small with me here. But I mean you're gonna get those hip hop abs. So well. This is a fun episode. Thanks thanks for listening. Thank you Vanessa, of course, thank you very much. I'll see you in two weeks. You'll see Vanessa and Jared next week. Be sure to tune in when maybe they'll suck a little less. Follow Help I Suck at Dating with Dean Anglert on I Heart Radio, or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts.