#16 Help! Dating Sucks

When we say to you, Dean, what do you want to talk about on this show? I don't know. You don't really bring a lot to the table. You don't say, hey, I did this, we could talk about that. Hey, let's talk about that. So we try to give you ideas and sometimes you don't like those ideas. Well, yeah, you're right, a lot of times I don't like the ideas. Let see, so you have no ideas of your own, but you don't like our ideas. So then when where does that of us? I have a lot of ideas, but you

guys shoot them down every single time. Go ahead, changing the name of the podcast for one budge on one thing, budge on one thing, and then I will begin to snowball and waterfall in some more ideas. Jessica makes a really good point about the title of the podcast. If I may dean funny story. I was at this guy's house. I just started seeing him. He was looking at something on my phone went out of nowhere. He just starts laughing. I'll like go over at him, and after a second,

I hear your voice coming from my phone. He then goes, I accidentally started the podcast Help I Suck at Dating? And he kept laughing. He couldn't even breathe. Another friend of ours and laughing too. They both started making fun of me. How much I must suck at dating if I'm listening to a self help dating podcast. Now, whenever I do something related to dating, he says, oh did you learn that from Dean. As fun as the ongoing joke is, I vote in favor of a name change.

Help Dating Sucks works fine, And maybe next time someone stumbles upon your podcast on my phone. Don't think I just agree that dating sucks now that I actually suck

at dating love the podcast, Jessica. Well, Jessica, first and foremost, I apologize because the tyranny here at iHeart Radio will not allow the name of the podcast to change, no matter how much we lobby for it, and it's it's kind of frustrating sometimes and a lot of it Like I don't know what to talk about now because I still can't really be as open and honestly as I want to be for the next two or three weeks while the show hasn't even aired yet for Winter Games

all that kind of stuff. So I don't know, Like it's like a weird, weird limbo phase right now. Well, let's could we end this podcast and start a new podcast with a different title. Yeah, all that costs money. Oh I didn't know that cost money. Okay, we have a really nice looking logo. I can stay. Just change the words in it. Look, all we have to do is remove the eye and A put the dating in front of the suck, and then double the s put it at the end. Help dating sucks. Why isn't you

heard it so much? Diners? Because A I think that only one percent of the people out there understand that it's a satirical title. No, be when I tell people what I do every Tuesday from noon to two pm, I would much feel feel much more comfortable saying I have a podcast named help Dating Sucks instead of help

I Suck at Dating. See, maybe it's just a sense of a principle where you know, if I have an idea for the first time in the twenty weeks we've been doing this and it gets adopted and accepted, it made me feel more comfortable about this hole being a joint effort instead of me just kind of following my uh opinions blindly. There there could be Maybe there's a compromise to be found here. What if it became help Do you suck at dating? What's the difference? Well, that's

not you, it's someone else. It's them, it's the listener. Do you suck a dating? That that's enough of a change, Like we can change it to that. Possibly I don't like that. You don't like that either? You want the words suck when you don't mind dating sucks? Because I don't want to make all about them. I'll still take some of it for myself. Okay, we have another proposal. Do we suck at dating? Help? Do we suck at dating? Why? What's wrong with help Dating sucks? I'm so confused with

what's wrong with that one does. There's a little negative. Does there have to be like pinpointing whether it's you meet us. There has to be a pronoun in there somewhere? Are we married to pronouns as another corporation? Somebody else didn't make a point that dating sucks would be kind of a negative name for a podcast. I'm trying to find that one. That's probably Amy's email. She sent it from here. It is dating sucks. This is Jenny Help

dating Sucks. It sounds too negative, and you might be advertising there's just a podcast of people who hate romance. If you want to keep it similar the format of the current name, how about something like help Becoming Datable, or how to suck lass at Dating? What about that one, how to suck lass at Dating? Maybe that I like that one? Okay, all right, it's a it's a start. Well Dean smiling, that's a positive staff. I feel like I have a pizza in my in my teeth. Well,

we got pizza from CPK. Was fantastic. It was cauliflower crust. Healthy too. It's like eating a vegetable. If I didn't know what was cauliflower crust, I would have said, boy, that crust is really good. I would have said that just out of nowhere, because I had noted in myself, that's really good crust. Turns out it's cauliflower really initiated. That's California Pizza Kitchen, right. I don't think they go

with that anymore. I think, oh yeah, I guess they do it right there on the box, because sometimes these companies do that. They go to initials that you never ever hear again. What like KFC Kitchen Fresh Chicken. I sort that's what they changed it to. It's no more Kentucky Fried anyway, But forget about Kentucky Fried because CPK is here and it's delicious. Will you accept how to suck at Dating less? That's a little how to suck less? It dat Yoda if Yoda made a title how to

suck less a dating is what Jenny proposed. Yeh, it's it's a step in the right direction. That's great, Thank you, Dean. Let's iterate upon that and figured it figure out exactly who want to do? Tell us about your week, because we're later than usual this week. What's been going on with you? It's Thursday already? Day? Yeah, I feel like it's been so long since I've seen you guys. It's been too long. What have you done this week? Have

you gone out? What have I done this week? Spent the week in New or spent money to Wednesday in New York? Wow? What were you doing there? I went with Amanda Stanton, n Ashley, I and Eric Bigger out there for a an event with Lord and Taylor in the league. H It's funny enough. We were giving out dating advice and fashion advice for for some New York locals out there. Um went to the beach a bunch this weekend with some friends. Is it too cold to go to the beach? I mean it's jary, It was

like in the eighties. Was actually nice? Um. We had a whig party for one of my bald friends. He turned twenty seven, so we all decided to wear wigs and have a surprise birthday party for him. Is he bald by choice or bald by nature or bald by illness? Kind of one of those things where he was balding as a young early twenties individual and decided to just kind of take it around with it and shaved his head bald and now he kind of accepts it, you know.

Smalled by choice, but by necessity is I know a guy who in high school lost it, just went completely bald, and now he wears a wig. But it's a very high end wig because there's something about being in con troll of a situation that makes you feel more comfortable about it. Wig maybe not so much. But what what would you do? Like, I have a I have a bald spot. Uh if you got that, would you have an issue with that? Would you shave your head? I shipped my head bald last year, last October, like a

year and a half ago. For what reason? Um? There were multiple reasons. One reason there were dynamics. I was I was trying to actually qualify for the Summer Olympics. Um, I just got a mole removed on the side of my head that I always thought was really unsightly, and it was like it was like you could see it through the hair sometimes, And I was like, I always want to be bald, but I didn't want this mole to be stick. Now, UM, I don't know. My mom was bald for a long time, so what what would

it be like to be bald? You know? So there's like a lot of things that was like yeah, and then I was just like, you know what, I'm just gonna do it. And so I took the clippers and and bused the line through my hair and I was like, all right, there's no turning back now. And it was honestly horrible experience. I looked hideous for two or three months. Um, but what else? And then you don't have the head for it, all the shape the cranium, you know, I

don't know. I don't, I don't know. I think my ears are weird, yeah, And I think that one of my best physical qualities is my hair. And so when I lose that, like if I if I was bald ahead brown eyes, I probably would never know it even look twice at me. That's not true, Dean, some people pull up brown eyes. I'm just saying, everything else on my face is is unsightly, like my nose, my lips,

my cheeks, all that kind of stuff. But it's it's but it gets brought up a little bit higher because of the blue eyes and because of the flow hair. You're saying, flowy hair and blue eyes like the draw for you, those are your best features and you and you're proud of those, and you feel like that's what gets people attracted to. But if you look past the blue eyes and the hair, there's not much going on.

I mean, this is a weird conversation because I don't want to sit here and reassure you that you're attracted. But I think there's a lot going on. Um not, I think, But it's because you lost in the eyes and the hair, and now you're a heterosexual female. Imagine Dean different hair, brown eyes, green eyes, whatever, but not such striking eyes. Problem is, I think I've seen you the photos. It's not awesome. Okay, it's admittedly not awesome, but I don't know, the rest of your face is fine.

But maybe I think you just proved his point that without his hair in his eyes, he's an average looking guy. I'm sorry, but you'll have nice hand scanning. That's a good thing. Yeah, but that fades. Oh well, sorry, that's what I'm saying, bald his tan face. But this is interesting. It's that everybody has these insecurities about their own physical appearance, even somebody who seems to the outsider as handsome as Dean Anglert. He doesn't even like his it knows, his

mouth with his Chinn's ears, whatever it is. But everybody has that. You're so used to your own features, you don't know how beautiful you really are. Oh, but it's probably true, George Clooney, I don't know, Jaselle Bunschen. They probably look in the mirror and they're like, oh, I don't like how my nose is or that. You know, don't you think it's when I look back to do you guys ever play like Madden? They're like NBA two

K or anything. You can create a player and like give him a name, give them number, all that kind of stuff, And like every time I would create a player, like a couple of weeks into playing with that player, I'm like, I'm sick of the way this guy looks. But then it's like, you can't do that in real life. Like you look at the mirror every single day for twenty six years. You're like, I'm sick the way this guy looks. Beard, I can't grow must you can't me neither? Yeah,

never look at that podcast stuff here everyone. Hey, we got a lot of emails about the opening lines to use on a dating app. Erica is so much Yes, Eric is on a bunch of these. Erica is the one that told us about the the gift, the sub seal seal and you know what, it's been working pretty well. Really Yeah, I've gotten a lot of responses Erica did had a date last night that you did not bother to go to. I didn't like stand him up, like

I told him, I didn't feel well feeling. What she knows is bogus, right, he knows at I don't know. We haven't talked since. He said, I'm so sorry, let me know when you're feeling better, And you said, why did you decide to bail? I just was not into it, like at all, Like I just didn't want to go.

I think it's also because this thing happens when you're on dating apps where you're talking to one person who you like more than anyone else you're talking to, and so you feel like until you meet that person, you shouldn't go out with anyone else. So you're you're focused too much on one guy in the app, and like that is not a good strategy, that's not the point of the apps. I encourage you to go out with the guy last night, just because I feel like it's

good to stay in the game, into practice dating. I've been so out of the game so long it does, I don't have to stay and thinking that's why you got to get get in there a little bit. It's good to get some reps in, you know what I mean. Practice.

Maybe it's another time. That is an interesting point that you make though, with there being one person that you really want to go on a date with, and then until you get that date, you're kind of like, I don't really have to go on any other date until why waste my time If I'm still talking to this other guy, which you are, which I am, what's inhibiting you from going on a date with that guy? So he lives in San Diego just kind of problematic because to them he was in l A going to Australia.

He was in Australia for two weeks. I hope he doesn't listen to this show. And then he just got back and I was going to Lake Ta. That's just selfish when you're travel late. He's gonna La Tallo this weekend. Yeah, my oh for him? So what's interesting about this guy?

And she showed me the pictures of him, and he's a very good looking guy, but she was concerned about his height, which and I say this because we tend to really nitpick these photos on these dating apps because there's really no evidence as you scroll through that he's short. He's standing with other guys, he seems to be the same height as all the other guys he hangs out with. This really new evidence. But she just had a feeling he might not be tall enough for her, liking, how

tall are you? I'm five seven, but like five eight on a good day, so I'm kind of tall for a girl. Okay, but still she at least meet hill. We older enough to meet the guy before we make these kinds of judgments about it. I think I could be a pretty good authority on whether he's tall or not. Okay, let's bring him on. Let's find out was he staying next to like, you must be this tall? To write like,

what are you using his reference for his height? I'm just using I don't other people, But like, he sent me a photo from Australia and he's taller than all the girls in the picture, So, like, I don't know if I should be that concern. Whenever I meet someone in real life, they're always like, you, look, you're so much taller than I expect you to be. That was my first impression of you. Yeah, I don't. I don't. Did I don't. Did I come across as short on television?

In my Instagram profile? Maybe? So, I don't know. That is interesting. You're on his Facebook. We are not. I'm looking at his profile picture on Facebook. He's the one. He's cute. That's what I said. I like to believe I can match with cute men. Uh. I'm glad he got out of his high school phase. This is back. He doesn't love it, and you're probably really far into it. He's short, he's probably five ten okay, gay closed. Five ten is not a deal breaker for me. Five nine

is a deal breaker. Yeah. Yeah, if he's the perfect guy, you're gonna say no because of an inch, because right now you can wear two inch pumps. But Eric, Erica, that was that was that was? That was good? Did you guys plan that before you came in. Maddie has an idea for opening lines. First of all, she thinks we should bring back the term going steady. I love that term. I used that when I was in the dating game, and actually when I would ask a girl to go steady, I would give her a pin what

a pen? Yeah, which is like straight out of the fifties, isn't it straight out of the fifties? You give him your let him in jacket. I don't play sports, so I wouldn't. I would give them I would buy a pin. You're supposed to give him your like class pin, but my school didn't do that because it was two thou and two. So I just bought a pin and I would give it to him and say, do you want a goot? You know, hey, Becky, we've been having a lot of fun together. I would like if you went

steady with me. Catches them off guard. They usually say yes, accidentally end up in a relationship. Then I make a miserable for a couple more weeks. And Maddie, spending time with someone going out is in my opinion, dating, But there's not really a word right now in our culture that's used for when that dating relationship gets more serious

and has more intentionality. Nice word there, Maddie. That's why I think we need to bring back going steady makes it sound like there was intentionality and it's more than two people just casually spending time together. Lastly, the best opening line and started conversation on a dating app is two truths and a lie go it's not bad once they respond to try to guess which one is a lie and off at leads to a conversation. We talked

about the true things. I like that. So what she's saying is the going steady is the bridge between dating and boyfriend girlfriend? Just to cover that one first, is it or is it boyfriend girlfriend? I think it made a replace his boyfriend girlfriend. The problem I always ran into is that there needs to be like a you need to like schedule a meeting and deliberations for when you when you get to call someone your girlfriend you know.

And always thought it was such a weird thing because you always feel like a nerd going like so I felt, if you, if you make it about going steady, because it's such an old term, it makes it kind of fun. It takes the pressure off of it, and also it lets them know what your intentions are. Yeah, I'm just a man. Study I think I would want to hit the brakes. I don't know. I don't know if this

is oversharing. I don't know if I'm gonna get scrutinized for this, But in a relationship recently that I may be currently in hypothetically, hypothetically, there was the dating phase that was going on and then all of a sud well, not all of a sudden, but like after a couple of days of like culminating and thinking and like deciding. I'm not deciding, but like just thinking things over. I just went into it. Woke up one morning and just

started calling with my girlfriend. And it almost like didn't really give her the chance to be like I don't want to be not like that. She could, she was gonna say, but it's like instead of instead of by avoiding the conversation to be like are you my girlfriend? Or do you want to be my girlfriend? That kind of thing, I was just like, hey, my girlfriend needs a glass of water. I'm gonna get her one real quick,

called her back like that kind of thing. And then she heard me say that she was my girlfriend enough times and then she was just like his girlfriend. And here's why that's correct. I think it's fantastic because there's always weirdness and nobody knows, and now you've told her, and now she doesn't have to ask, she doesn't have to wonder, she didn't have to have the conversation. There's

a girl on our staff. I don't want to name her, but remember she was in the early part of her relationship, wasn't sure and they were out shopping with some other friends and he kind of came up behind her and put her shoulder and said, uh, touched her head and said, is this my girlfriend? Nope, that's not my girlfriend. This is my Girlfriend's the first time we've ever said the word before, and she was like, oh, I'm his girlfriend. She was happy to hear it, and then she was like, well,

maybe I should still have the conversation. No, you shouldn't because he doesn't want The guys don't want that conversation. He's saying that very intentionally, like you did. You said it very intentionally, because the girl's always like, well, maybe he just saying that. Maybe he didn't think about it. No, the guys thought about it. If he's going to drop that word, it's very intentional and he has given it thought,

accept it, embrace it, and move forward. And they're obviously certain circumstances where you can do it, like if you're only only been on a few dates with someone and you're not clearly exclusive like in this case, we were very clearly exclusive exclusive, and I didn't I hate. I hate the arbitrary dating thing. So it's like if you go out to a bar, um you can't say I

have a girlfriend. If you guys haven't kind of labeled yourself with a boyfriend girlfriend yet, so it kind of gives you the opportunity to be like, this is what we are, this is the label that we have now. Um, it says so much. It says I'm not seeing anyone else. You're not allowed to see anyone else. This is a thing now, Erica, You've welcome to China. Basis the way that you said you're not allowed to see anyone. You

are my property. But I guess if she had a problem with it, she would have said, yes, yeah, exactly exactly. You're not allowed in the sense that if you do, it's gonna be able. I'm gonna be hurt if you do. And that was a tricky thing too. I think I had to say the word girlfriend about ten times before I first heard the word boyfriend back. So it was just a matter of but it's safe. It's safer than like and I love you or something like that. Why, she's a big one and a major You need a

response to that girlfriend. You don't even need a response. Well, I think for for situation too, it was more like I would say that she the first nine times she heard the word girlfriend, she was just like, Oh, he's just joking around. He's just like being a goof. But in the tenth time she heard it, she's like, that's the one. That's so. You never talked about it. You just heard her say boyfriend, and that's when you knew that it was heard and accepted. We talked about it

after the fact. She was like, why did you start calling your girlfriend one day? And I was like, I wanted you to be my girlfriend, and I didn't really know how it was to go about asking you to be, so I just started calling it you with my girlfriend, and thank you for going along with it. I think that's great. I don't know if ABC's gonna asume me for this, for the hypothetical relationship that you're not even really in as far as we know, Yes, right, I

mean that's what I'm saying. We're saying, in a hypothetical relationship, that would be cool thing. We'll talk about it more some other time. I can't wait. Here's another opening line suggestion, Oh where did it go? Here? It is this is Kelsey. This is her favorite opening line, and she says it's actually hooked a dude. It only last at about three weeks, but this did create success. She said to him, have

you heard the joke about the butter? And he responded no, and she said, well, I don't want to spread it. I would not know. It sounds like butter is a venereal disease in this case, and that's what they're trying to avoid. Really, that one doesn't work quite as well. Kelsey said that one worked to I don't want to spread it? Well, then why would she ask him if he had heard about the butter in the first place. It's a nice breaker. I understand it's an ice breaker,

but she could that. She goes, I don't want to spread it, and he goes, ha ha ha or l o l It could be a whole lot butter. Though, if you ask me, I think you and Kelsey are a perfect anyway. So Erica, so just the sub sal you're experimenting with other gifts, Oh, no, strict please up, whatever works, because I think it's like funny and like, why is an animal raising his hand at you? Right? I had a whole conversation actually with this boy in

San Diego. The whole conversation was sub seal, and then he sent a cat sliding in sanks up and I was like, you know what, it's pretty weird that there is actual video footage of these animals doing these things. How do you get out of the gift? Have you exchanged words or has it been Uh no, we've been talking for weeks now, I can I don't know what we started talking about. Let me don't mind a ful conversation with only gifts, but at some point, at some point,

you don't have to. Um, I look at that. I have messages on bumble that because I haven't been on here, because i've been I've exchanged numbers with this person. Um, who do you have messages from? I don't know. Two boys shorty Shorty McGee. No, he's what I've exchanged short face. No, I haven't answered his last text from last night. Just playing the game here. So he has your number? Yeah, yeah, we texting he got back from Australia. Any text with the guy you blew off last night? Yeah? Okay, so

these are new people. Yeah. By the way, how we got out of the gift thing was he said, so what are you up to today? Oh? And then we just started talking. I still hate the gift as a first message. I just I can't. There's nowhere to go from there. It's it's basically doing. There's something of saying, hey, okay, what do you want? Like an essay on why you should talk to me? So what do you think? What do you what? What would work? What would be funny?

You don't like the punch, you don't like the gifts? Can I react to with my bubble? Go back to when I was on it two years ago and see which messages I enjoyed them. I don't know if you can do that or not. I don't know if we don't know about that database. But um, well, if there are any mail listeners for this podcast, which we have had a few, we've had a few men calling and

email in all that kind of stuff. Um, but say you're looking for a gift or your sister, for your mom um, whoever it is for Valentine's Day, because you know, just because you're not you might not be dating someone doesn't mean that you don't have to give him a

gift on Valentine's Day. Where you can get your girlfriend clothes but I'm saying, as a female listener of this podcast, trying to plug a female clothing store right right, right, just because it's Valentine'sday doesn't mean you can't get like your mother, gift your sister, gift Galantine's Day, Galantine's they get. Spoil yourself, I mean threat up. With these prices, you'd be still not too yes and leave it to mark to to look at it selfishly, spoil yourself. You get

something for you. Valentine's Day is coming up, Galantine's Day is coming up. Uh. You can definitely go on threat up dot com and peruse their section. It's basically going to an online thrift store. I'm on threat up dot com right now, and it's really amazing these prices, because I mean, thrift stores are such a great deal. But when you walk into one, it's a little daunting. There's so much in that place, and you don't know where

to start summer in pile somewhere on racks. But when you go to threat up dot com, it's so simple. You can go wherever you want. I want a blue shirt, You're gonna find a blue shirt. You can literally just search I want a blue shirt. Boom they're gonna give you all the blue shirts they got in the prices. They got jackets, they got sweaters from four dollars, they got dressed from eight dollars, handbags from twelve dollars, designer

designer shoes, handbags from ten dollars. So it's basically just going to like a regular e commerce shopping site, but you're getting off of off is what we're talking about. In thirty five thousand brands. Imagine that thrift store. You walk into a thirty five thousand brands, you turn around, you walk right out. I can't handle that, But this it's so simple. A thrift store with thirty five articles of anything in there I think would be a little.

That's a lot. But that's what's nice about threat up as you can again set those filters, figure out exactly what you're looking for. Um, you don't to spend all those countless hours I guess, sifting through the racks at the thrift stores. So go to thread up dot com slash dean for an extra thirty percent off. They're already great prices. Again, it's thread up dot com slash Dean, thread up without an a t h R E. D up dot com slash dean thread typically has an A

in it, but right here doesn't. For threat up A. Remember that th h R E d up also every ID and goes to a twelve point quality inspection process. So these are like new. You don't have to worry about the fact that these aren't necessarily new, because some actually is brand new with the tag still on them. Don't wait another minute, don't Thanks for guiding us through that, Mark, I appreciate it, man, It's been my pleasure's emails. I

picked this one because I can relate to it. Hi did and Mark and Erica and I wanted your opinion on my current relationship. I've been dating the same guy for two and a half years. I'm twenty five, he's thirty, and I love him, but things have never been easy. We've had to work through a lot of differences in opinion. He doesn't want kids. I do. He wants to be a pastor, and I'm not interested in being a pastor's wife. Though we are both religious, he's very conservative, I'm more

on the liberal side. I know opposites a track, but we have had to have some real conversations and make some real changes to work through all these things. We're doing great right now, but I can't help wondering when the next this agreement is coming. I'm scared to walk away and start over, even though we don't live together or anything, and it would be a clean break. We're definitely in a spot to take the next step in

our relationship, but I'm so nervous. I could see myself spending the rest of my life with him, but is it possible to be sure? Is it just cold feet? I'm not big on commitments, so maybe that's it. Love the show and Dean congra outs on your new secret relationship. Thank you, Selena, But that is hypothetical, Yes, the hypothetically

secret relationship. I picked this one because I when my wife and I were first dating a long, long time ago, twenty years ago, she was very religious and I am not very religious, and we were able to bridge that gap. And the main way that we did is is by respecting each other's views. Um, she didn't love it at first that I wasn't a religious person, but I would go to church with her to this day. Uh, from time to time we all go to church together as

a family with the two kids. So it's it's all about respecting each other's opinions and not if I were making fun of her or criticizing her beliefs or vice versa, that's never gonna work. But as long as you respect with the other person believes in. However, that was a way we were able to bridge it. But I mean, there's a lot here that you disagree on. My thing with this is she saying that she wants kids and him saying he doesn't want kids. I think that's gonna

be a big hurdle for them. That alone is a major problem. Yeah. I don't think it's obviously not first hand or second hand experience, but I think I've heard stories where, um, it's very similar to this, Like they love each other, one wants kids, one doesn't want kids. The one that wants kids thinks that eventually the other one will want kids. He turns out not to want kids ten twenty years from now, Um, and then she has, you know, incredible like remorse and regret for not every

really being able to have those children. Um. I don't know. I think that's kind of that's a big that's a big, big deal. It is because you're always going to want kids. That's not going to change and even if he does change his mind, he may not be the dad you want him to be if he's not a guy that wanted kids in the first place. Then there's the religious different it says. Then there's the political differences, which there have been times in the history of America where that

was something you could overcome. But nowadays, if one of you is really into Donald Trump and one of you really really is not into Donald Trump, I'm not sure how to make that work. As silly as that may seem, it's just politics. Who cares, right, there's a lot of fundamental differences here as it dominates the headlines every single day. Like, I don't know how you don't have a daily argument about what Trump is up to? What about the angel argument?

Opposites attract and she she mentions that in there that works with she's a little bit country, I'm a little bit more rock and roll. I don't think it works something like this. This is beyond that. I mean, I agree, but she did say that she's in love. She is in love two and a half years Erica. What do you think here? I think this is awful and get out. Why are you if you don't want to be a pastor's wife and he wants to be a pastor. That to me is the biggest problem. I could never be

a pastor's wife. That is just that is a role. That is not like being, you know, a maleman's wife. The pastor's wife is a role, right, Yeah, it's a big deals. That's funny. Do you ever I guess you even not remember. But Milania Trump when when Trump was elected president, he she was like I heard sobbing, like uncontrollable. She was like, I never expected him to actually win, right because the first ladies a role, right, And maybe she didn't. Yeah, my gut is two and a half years,

you don't live together. It's a clean break. It might be time to make that break, and if it's meant to be, you will find your way back to each other and the compromises will be found. Unless Market I'm sorry, unless East disagrees. I think we have a clear consensus. I'm on board. Get away from him right now, call him up and right now, put this podcast on pause, and then resume the rest of it once you're done with the phone call. Ah, this is I'm not sure

how to pronounce this one. I'm gonna I'm gonna guess it's Oh, let's just go with this one. This is easier. It's just from m M. I'm nineteen, pretty young, have next to nodating experience. This isn't really a source of angst for me, and that's what's kind of my issue. I think about the nebulous future. I would like to one day have someone to spend it with. But my problem is I have absolutely no desire to date. It's

not fear of putting myself out there. It's more like I think about dating and I really can't imagine it being something I want to do. I'm a sophomore in college, a very rigorous school, super busy all the time, focusing on myself, also quite introverted, as we talked about last week, and don't enjoy meeting new people, though I'm actually pretty good with introduction and conversations. How do I get over this? I've been in a few dates. I don't even have the experience to say if I like it or not.

Should I just wait and see if one day I want to try it, or should I bite the bullet and make myself try? Help make yourself try? M. That's funny because I can empathize with her being an introvert but being good with introductions and conversations, because I think we talked about that last week in the same way. Um yeah, I mean nineteen super young? Were you you guys real all dating at nineteen? Right? Yeah? But I don't know. I like em and I feel like M's

doing it right. I don't know, am I crazy? I feel like she's focused on herself and school, and when you're nineteen, that's what you want to focus on, and it will happen. A guy is going to come and ask you out and sweep you off your feet. I would never I would never advise anyone to put school in a back seat for dating. I think the fact that she's going to a rigor school and all that kind of stuff, that's and that's her priority. I think

that's important. I think she should sick with that. But at the same time, it's like if she feels so compelled to want to date someone, but I see, that's the thing is she doesn't. But I also think using the excuse of I'm so busy, like really, that sets you up for the rest of your life. I am so busy and I use that every day in my life. I don't want to go date because of it. So she's setting herself up for being almost twenty five and not wanting to go on dates. So you're saying, look

at me so much better than this. But I guess the point that I'm trying to make is that it does it clearly bothers her that she's not dating. Well, she wrote the emails, and if it bothers her that much, she should date. But she should never compromise anything else, like her school or herself or her own She doesn't have to quit well not. But like I'm saying, like if she thinks going to a party or something will allow her to start dating, but that's going to like

sacrifice or doing her homework or something like that. You know, I don't like her going on tender bumble hinge, so do you guys. I mean, I don't like that much effort into it. I think that's a lot of time consumption, and for someone that doesn't already have a lot of time. I also think that if we focus on ourselves, we become better people. For which what is that? Sorry people tell us all the time, and it's like, I know plenty of really really awesome self aware of people, including myself,

who are single. Okay, I just feel like when you're nineteen, she's still kind of becoming the woman she's going to be and focusing on herself as a positive thing, and it's going to be a great thing one day for the guy that she meets and falls in love with. I mean, there's two ways. There's two sides to it.

I guess do you think that someone that is very clearly understanding of like who they are as a person is easier to date than someone that's kind of more like a blank canvas still trying to figure themselves out, Because then for the person that they're dating, they're they're able to have like these opinions and influences on that person. Otherwise they're willing to bend and kind of like change themselves a little bit too to make the other person happy.

So like there's there's kind of like two sides to that story. You know, Like if she's investing in herself, then what she's gonna do, She's gonna come out of it more self aware, more understanding of who she is

and what she wants. But that also kind of narrows down the pool for her because she's going to have a smaller sliver of the people that she's gonna be interested in, versus if she is going on more dates, she's gonna be like experiencing more things and like understanding that relationships a tway street where she has to give some of herself and get some of them, all that kind of stuff. So I'm just saying there's two sides to it in a sense. True, that was really insightful. Thanks,

that's my one thing. Yeah, And I think I think, of course, no, I think Mark had an answer for her. That's my answer to keep doing you. I honestly think I think that she. I think your wise. I think she should stay off dating apps all that kind of stuff, And I think that she shouldn't dwell on the negative of not going on dates, but she also shouldn't shy away from any possibility of going on one. In college, too,

you're surrounded by guys. Some of the guys gonna ask you out, or you're gonna get interested in the guy, find yourself having feelings, and this will all blossom. And here's the deal with college. You're in college for four years, in my case five years. You don't get another opportunity

like that again in your life. It's like it's an opportunity where, yes, of course you have to work hard to go to school get good grade so you can have a good career, but it's also a time where you can like explore yourself and like figure out and like have fun and obviously like be like a little bit less inhividit than you're gonna have to be later

on in life. Kendall writes, Hi, Dean Mark and Easton and I love your podcasts and when one of your early podcasts you mentioned you were in areas, and so am I and ever since then, I totally relate to what you have to say and the way you view things. So maybe we should all maybe they should know what we all are so they can relate to all of us. Erica, You're an area eastern Scorpio and I'm a cancer, just so everyone knows. I've been in a relationship almost five years.

We started dating in college, hit it off right away. Our relationship has been great. I definitely see a future with him. I'm almost twenty four, about to start my career in the next chapter of my life. He's twenty seven, and it's having a more difficult time finding what he wants to do with his career. I feel this is hindering him from wanting to make the next step in our relationship, moving in together, engagement, whatever it may be.

I'm not saying you need all this right away, but I want to know that this is something he will want as well. My question is do you think a person needs to be settled in their career, life and financially in order to make the next big step in a relationship. Thank you for your time. Keep providing us with excellent podcasts to listen to. That's Kendall with One L Coming with One L. Yeah. I don't want to feel that one right away because I feel like I'm

the least authoritative on that subject. All right. I think I'm pretty authoritative on it actually because um and maybe just because I always do. But I was dating my wife who was very young. We started dating she was eighteen and I was twenty six, and so it was now at this point she was twenty two when I was thirty, and I was not by any stretch where

I wanted to be in my career. In fact, in fact, I was working at Disneyland doing what hosting the who wants to be a Millionaire show at Disney's California Adventure, which was a great By the way, that was the best job I've ever had in my life without any questions to date, and because it was nothing but fun. Anyway, the point is that I knew that wasn't a long term position. It was a show. It was gonna end, and that would be that. So I wasn't where I

wanted to be. I didn't have any money. She was about to start going to more Park College UH an animal training program they have which is really neat but really intensive for two years. It was not the time for me to propose, but I had to because there was no question in my mind that we were going to be together forever. So I even in the speech I gave her when I proposed, which she probably didn't really understand because I was crying. Um, I was a mess.

But what I was saying was I know that we're not where we want to be financially, professionally, anything, but I don't care about any of that because I just want to be with you forever. So I guess my point is in his mind, he may be thinking that way, but I hope he's not, because if he's sure about you, that that's all that should matter. It shouldn't matter what kind of situation your careers are in. That's my opinion

as far as advice for you. You know, I'm not sure how you have the conversation with him, because that's kind of an awkward thing to bring up. But that may be where his head is, that he does want to marry her, or that he needs some time. He may feel like I can't go to her dad and say I want her hand in marriage when he's in debt, or he's Did you go to Amy's father and he was okay with it? Yes, he's very nice about him, even though I was so much older and had long hair.

I think I think generally speaking, the person you guys don't need to be settled in your career. I think it's kind of silly to say, like you can't propose to someone or be engaged until you're settled in your career and like you understand what your your life and your finances are going to be, like all that kind

of stuff. To Mark's point, like, once you know you're gonna spend your life with someone, why not start spending it with him as soon as possible, in spite of not being exactly where you want to be in your life, you know, you know, yeah, and that's all that matters. And yeah, but I understand a guy. Guys get overwhelmed with that. Yeah. I mean I waited about a year after I knew that I wanted to propose salison because

I wasn't. I was because I was telling my friends like, when I get you, say, hey, once you come with my studio apartment. You know, I just I didn't have any money, you know, my my career was in a spot I was happy with, but I wanted to see how many more levels I could get to. And then, uh, I finally I was like, I just got to do this. And I went and talked to her parents and they were like, what took you so long? Were you living

by yourself? Mark? Were you you were living by yourself too? Right? Yes? We we we moved in together actually right before I proposed. That's a good point, I guess, because you're typically and again I'm kind of flipping this back up myself because I've never lived by myself. Oh, I'm so far from any of this. So you live you ever, mit, Mat and I have no relationships. I guess my would you guys have ever considered proposing to your girlfriends at the

time had you not lived with them? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, oh but she but I'm sure you guys were staying on together often. Yeah, we spell all the time. We weren't living together though, until after I proposed. We moved in before I proposed. She didn't know I was about to propose, but I didn't. That made me more comfortable. As far as her parents were against it, they didn't. They were fine with us. They were fine with me, but moving in together for marriage they were not okay with.

And I knew they were mad about it. But in my back of my mind, I know, it's literally a week and I'm going to propose and everything's gonna be fine. And it was. So did you tell them before you moved in with No, I didn't. They had to deal with that for a few days. Yeah, you just wanted to string them along. No. I just needed the right time. I needed the right situation. We were going up. We went up to San Francisco for Labor Day weekend, and I asked her up there, how does the timing of

it all work? How how long did you wait before between asking her father and then proposing. I went quick because her mom is a bit of a blabber mouse, so I was worried that it was everyone was gonna know. So I think I asked day we were leaving on the trip, and that was before cell phones, sorry, And so I knew if I could get Amy out of town without talking to her mom, I knew we'd be okay. Yeah. Uh, I think my name was about three months because I mine was kind of in a I did on Catalan Island,

and I had my buddies, a professional photographer. I had him like planted in the bushes to take pictures of the moment side to make sure it was a time where like the three of us could get over there and like there's my they have a vacation house there. That mad to make sure it was clear. There's things

that went into it. So it took some planning, but I wanted to make sure the big because I knew they were going to say yes, like they give me their blessing, but just in case they didn't, I needed some time to recuperate from that, right, I forget what this spun off from. I think, uh, It's just funny to think about because I've never by myself and now

that has Erica. So it's like, I feel like that's kind of like a necessary uh step that everyone has to take before they're even ready to post it someone Just it's hard for me to imagine proposing to someone, or like even a guy proposing to some girl when that guy has you know, two or three friends that he lives within a house with about her. That's a good point. Well, I guess you have toally have to plan to be getting a place with them. You don't have to buy a house in this day and age.

That doesn't have to be a mandatory married situation these days, you really can't. Um, Okay, I've got one more here. Let me just sum this one up. This is I think is pronounced a lease. And basically she met a guy over the summer and it was great and they clicked and it was amazing and he was a gentleman and smart, determined and fun and really listened to her, which is an interesting compliment to make and guys should take note of that. Anyway, such a healthy emotional connection.

Things were perfect. He got an offer, a job offer in the Grand Cayman Islands that he couldn't turn down. It's a two year deal. There's no bad blood, but they did end up just they decided to end it. Uh. He left in November and she can't stop thinking about him. She's been going on on dates, but she's having a really hard time because she compares every guy to the guy that left. She knows that that's wrong, she knows she shouldn't compare these people, but she can't help it.

She doesn't feel for them when she felt for him, and she wants that again. So she asks, do you think do you think it would be this hard to get over him if it wasn't meant to be? Two years is a long time and he could be a completely different person by then. Or maybe it'll work out. But I know if I know, it won't if I spend the next two years waiting around? Who would want to be with someone who did that? Help I Suck

a Dating? See they're dropping it? I mean people like this Turtle ps what if Tanya's podcast called She's Hysterical? Tanya is on Scrubbing In with Becca Tilly as well occasionally on Help I Suck a Dating with the Angler and I heard radio podcast and I heard radio podcast. And of course she's on on air with Ryan Seacrest every morning on Kissing Them on Los Angeles Channel, Levin on Sirius X. It's a lot of times find radio stations across the country. If you're interested in Tanya, you'll

find its handle is Tanya Rad. That Tanya Rad. All right, So what do we tell Elise I feel really bad for Elise is do you think that it's hard to get over if we weren't meant to be? I think that she so her question was, yeah, So her question, just to repeat, was do you think it'd be hard, that's hard to get over him if it weren't meant to be? And I think that it can totally be hard to get over someone if it was still wasn't

meant to be with them. And just because you're I mean, I think it's just human nature to compare that every subsequent relationship with the one that you had the most feelings for. In my opinion, it's not like it's not necessarily a matter of you guys were soulmates. Maybe you are.

I'm not going to say that you you were, but um, you know, you spend a lot of time with someone, you grow a connection with them, and then once you guys have to break up, especially for something like this, where it's not like you guys broke up because you didn't necessarily want to be together. It's kind of more of just a matter of of proximity. UM, if you, if you, definitely, I think you're able to get over him.

It's gonna be challenging, but I think probably, like even twelve months in, you're gonna be realizing that, Um, it's not going to be incredibly difficult to get over him, I think. So I think that, Um, I think the time will tell. We've all had very difficult breakups in our life, and then you get older, and all of my breakups clearly were not meant to be because I'm very happy with my wife. So even though at a terrible time with those breakups, clearly those weren't the right

person for me. So time will tell. But I also think you answer your own question when you say, I know it's not going to work out. If I spend the next two years waiting around, you clearly don't want to do that, So don't do that. Go out there date two years from now, maybe you'll be with somebody else, maybe you won't, but we'll deal with you the the elease of two thousand November two tho nineteen. We'll deal with her at the time and see if she's ready

for him for somebody else. My feeling is you're going to find somebody else and maybe it's not going to be the same as with this guy, but it's gonna be fantastic. It's gonna be different, but it's going to be great Erica whole thing. Eric is more um like cynical and straight to it. What do you so, what's your thought here? No? I just I actually in this case, I'm like talk to him every day. Who cares? You

want to keep it alive? Two years is not that long in the grand scheme of things, to be honest. It's taken me like hip, Well, she's okay, okay, so that's hard, but who cares? She sells plenty of times have babies after eight. But I think we need to know what he's thinking. If she's going to do that right, she would have to have conversations with him. She can't just wait around and be like, I don't know. I hope in two years he calls me, because if they're

texting all the time and talking all the time. Okay, that's cool. But if she's texting, I think what his responses to that is. I don't think they're talking at all right now. If it was really really meant to be, then this job offer, no matter how good it was, wouldn't have pulled him away for two years to allow them to end their relationship. Interesting never lets him when I was dating, not take the best job offer of their life because you haven't been in love yet with

the person that you're gonna marry. Okay, have you been in love? I think so. Yeah. Dean isn't saying he shouldn't have taken the job. Dean is saying that the universe would not have given this job if you two were meant to be right, and even if it did give it to him, if he felt the way, if he felt it was the one, if if she was the one, then he would have turned down the job offer. Look, I hate that every single email that comes in I have a personal story for but I do Amy, and

I already gether. Six months and I moved to Los Angeles. I had already planned on doing it. We were in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, I had already planned on it before I met Amy, so we met. I told her from the beginning, fell in love. Leaving sucked so bad, but I had to do it because my whole life would have wondered what if I had gone to l A. What could have happened. Maybe I could have hosted, uh that, a phony game show at a theme park. Maybe I could have met

Dean Angler one day and been on his podcast. So many possibilities that wouldn't have happened if I hadn't moved to Los Angeles. Anyway, the point is, she ended up following me out here, a little different because grand came in Islands just a two two year thing. But she ended up coming out here and that worked out really nicely. But we also didn't We also didn't say we're gonna keep seeing each other, but you didn't really break up. We didn't really break up either. We just kind of

let it linger. I don't know, I feel like I feel like that's such a rare example, because I feel like typically that wouldn't end well, but in this case, it did. But I'm saying that the universe still sent me to l A, and it's still fate found a way to bring us together. So with Elise and the guy, Fate will bring you together. If it's meant to be, you just gotta do your thing. But it's it's I feel like it's kind of unfair of you to say, and a lot of and I'm probably gonna contradict myself here,

Please God. It's easy to look back with hindsight and be like, oh, fate is what led that to happen, or fate is what led that to be where we are now when like when you were living it, I'm sure you're like, what going on? Like, I don't know if this is a good idea part of my cursing. Um, it's like what when all that stuff is going on? I'm sure you and Elise, I'm sorry you and Amy we're questioning things just as much as a lease and

this guy is. So it's like it's challenging to I mean, I guess what you're blessed with now is perspective because you've been through it and you obviously aren't a very successful and healthy and healthy and happy relationship. Um, but when so much is uncertain in the future, it's like, right when Elise is already she'll it'll all makes sense

to her, but now it's hard to look exactly. That's what I'm saying that there's like a million different I'm sorry, like an infinite number of outcomes from this, and until she actually lives it and understands where she wants to go and what and when she's actually looking back on it, is really the only moment she's going to realize whether it was a good decision or not a good decision. So what's her advice for her? I think that she

should move on. I think she she should start. Erica says, I'm open to her pursuing other relationships, but I don't think block this guy out completely. If he reaches out, maybe you should talk and sure, but if she's going on dates, clinging onto this guy who's in the band came in irons for two years, maybe I shouldn't be talking. She's self sabotaging in that sense, and so she should. She should go into every new relationship with kind of like a blank canvas, a clean slate, and allow it

to unfold. It's difficult because I mean, I think we're all guilty of comparing new relationships old relationships. But when you remember an old relationship, at least in my case. All you tend to do is romanticize it and remember the good things and you forget about all the negative things.

And it's like when you look back at yourself in the moment of those relationships, you're like, I remember being miserable, but I'm gonna think about the happy times instead, which, by the way, is a crazy thing that our brain does. But yeah, yeah, so maybe she'll find someone regardless, maybe this guy comes back and he calls her and she happens to be single. You really think it's going to happen. I have so much hope for these two. And I don't even know this guy. Eric is a cynic, but

she's a romantic at the same time. Visit him in the Grand Cayman, Irelands because a great trip, the beautiful thing. Why Okay, So here's an experience or a story from my personal experience, not firsthand, secondhand. One of my great friends, Um, I think I've talked about it on this podcast before. He just moved to Mumbai, India, probably in October of last year, and he was he was dating this girl for four years in Los Angeles. They were in love

with each other. He so he relocated to Mumbai for work. He got a job offer to open up Amazon unscripted studio out in Mumbai. UM and his girlfriend, who had dated him and is very much a relationship type woman, was like, Oh, my boyfriend is moving to Mumbai and we're going to break up because of that. What do

I do? So she moved to Australia and like they were talking for a couple of weeks after they had both moved, and then after talking to him about it, he was like, no, it was like unfair of us to continue to talk, because what we really need to do is people to like dive into our current environments and find someone and and like not really allow ourselves to hold each other back in that sense. So it's like, and now she is in another serious relationship with a guy.

Um I haven't talked to her, and you know he's enjoying himself out in Mumbai. But I guess the point of it is, it's like by clinging onto those those relationships knowing that it might not necessarily work out and at least like the um um current time with what I'm looking for the short term, the intermediaries at a word, in the interim, UM it's it's they're like self sabotaging in that sense, and they're like not allowing themselves to

fully move on. You're right about that. If Amy hadn't moved out here, eventually that conversation would have had to happen, like why are we still talking? What are we doing? Because you're right, you're clinging onto something that's not happening, and you're not allowing yourself to move on, not allow yourself. Yes, but that case, obviously it moved out. So maybe if at least want to move to the Grand came In Islands. But it's only two years. That's a major, major deal

I want. But that's what That's what I wonder about is if she does visit, maybe it's amazing for a week, and maybe that's when she realizes, man, this is the real deal. I'm Maybe they have a conversation about that and think, man, we really do love each other. Let's make this work. Let's FaceTime this and this, and let's text and let's do all this stuff. Let's try to make this work. Or maybe she gets there and she's like, well, he's clearly that was fun, but yeah, not as new

it as I am. Or maybe she guess there's you know, it wasn't as great as I remember it being. The problem is she could come back from an amazing vacation being like, that was the worst trip of my life, but it was the grand came in Islands. How bad could it be? I mean, when you're heartbroken, it could be pretty bad. I guess we keep forgetting that. The relationship wasn't very serious before they even left. It was kind of a summer fling. But she said it was perfect.

Why don't she should do all summer flings perfect? What should she do? She should send him a man create and he's on the beach fledgehammering it open, not crowbarring. Sorry, very good. That's what you should start doing instead of sending guys gifts of the sub seal on bumble, ask them for their address and send them a man create right away. That you know that can add up real quick. Yeah, well, you want to how you can save money? Use codeine

you have five percent off. Perfect um. Eric, I don't know if you know what a man create is, but let me talk about this first. Okay, So man create. Basically, what a man create is is a perfect gift for any guy. It's a gift curated for um, the significant other in your life and honestly, anyone, your brother, your father, Mark and Studio loves the salami crate. Just love salami, I mean, bring it on. Its definitely my favorite deli meat. Yeah, and I bet the salami bouquet has different kinds of

salami in it. I'm just assuming maybe some pepperoni too, But oh yeah, so you want to what's funny about salami and pepperoni? Which no one's really gonna understand this reference, and I'm probably just gonna make myself sound incredibly weird. Salami and pepperoni are both the list, but they're both uniquely different. You guys, do you guys ever play Mortal Kombat back in the day, Scorpion and sub Zero very similar but uniquely different, so identical except for different colors

when Solar salamian pepperoni when you slice him. And whenever I think about salami or pepperoni, I think about Scorpion versus sub Zero. It's the weirdest thing. I don't know why, because salami is like in a it's it's it's it's like a it's like a pink purple e like Patty looking thing. You're just talking about like the substance of it, like like this like a sliced Salammi or slice pepperoni, and Pepperoni is like a sliced red little patty thing.

And Scorpion was like a yellow skeleton with the thing over his mask, and sub Zero was the same with the blue over his face. Anyways, that's sorry to get off topic. You will not get Scorpion or sub Zero in your man Create, but you could get the salami bouquet, like Mark legs Um I read. There's a lot of these that I would like. Amy likes the Moscow Mui one. My my roommates girlfriend actually just sent him one for his birthday recently and he was obsessed with it. He

it's funny. He got the crate before I had left to come taped this podcast, and he was like, what the hell is this? Like, I don't know, I have to go. I'm sorry, and I got back. I was like getting text from the entire time I was here. I got back, He's like, dude, I've been trying so hard to open this create. I can't get it open. And I was like, well, why would she send you a crate that you're not able to open, and he

was like he was like obsessing about it. He said it was like one of the most fun things he had to figure out how to open um. What's funny, too, is they include a crowbar because you actually need the crow bar to crank it open and get inside. So anyways, if you go to man Creates dot com slash Dean, you get five percent off. They don't offer that discount

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Where will you be watching the super Bowl this weekend, Dean Um, I'm traveling to Tahoe this weekend, uh with someone we might have discussed on this podcast this week hypothetically and quite a few of my friends. We're gonna be up, so we're gonna skin, We're gonna be doing a bunch of stuff Actually it's funny because that's where they filmed one of Ari's episodes of The Bachelor this year. Um, but anyways, thanks for tuning in, thanks for listening to Wait,

you're gonna watch the game? They're yeah, okay, fun like with a bunch of people. Yeah, who's your pick? Patriots or Eagles? I think Patriots are gonna win. That's a party. That's a party. Who do you guys want to win? I'm only rooting for the Eagles only because I'm tired of the Patriots winning every week, which every year, which I know is not a great argument, but I don't have a real passion for hither team. And the Eagles have never won the Super Bowl and they have really

good fans. They have a really devoted fans, so I think they'd be cool for Philadelphis. Are all so crazy, a little crazy. Yeah. I hate myself for saying this because I'm a Broncos fan. I hate the Patriots, always have, but there's just something about how good they are that I almost kind of want to root for them, you know, And I'm a big fan of an underdog all the time, but they're just like to continuously cement Tom Brady and

Bill Belichick's legacy. It's impressive, There's no question, it's very impressive. I hate myself that I'm even wanting them to win. Well, last week LIVELTI, last year against Atlanta cemented their cemented it for me unfortunate and here they are back again. Yeah, well that'll be good. Well enjoy Dean. Thanks. Can I ask you what you're doing? My parents are in town, so we'll be watching the game of my house. I

have a tradition with my kids. They go play and then I say girls commercials and they come and they watch the commercials with me, and then they and then they come for the halftime show. That sounds exactly like my childhood. And now I watched the games, Um yeah, playing like soccer outside and then it's like the yeah they're playing Barte. The commercials they get worse and worse. They're just too cheesy. They're so they're I don't know, they're just so over the top they are. I can't

handle him. Well, we're not gonna argue with you on that. Okay, there's something for everybody watching that about you. I'm not that big in football, not big into sports. I just bought a bunch of I keya furniture, so I'm gonna put that together on Super Bowl Sale. After the passing of the founder, No we we did raise Adele and and Allen Wrench in his memory, though his spirit lives on in house. Yes every room. Um, all right, well, thanks again for tuning in. And I was medtally in

a bad mood when this podcast started. I'm still not entirely over it. We've got a lot of talking to do behind the scenes. But your emails really definitely helped perk me up. I definitely always appreciate them again, and take everything that I say with the big grain of salt, but take everything Mark says with a little bit more serious. Lord to keep those emails coming. I suck at dating at i heeart media dot com. Next week we're gonna talk to a meditation expert help me get in the

right headspace for this show. And I've I've meditated before. I've actually I've worked a lot with headspace. Um. They used to be a client of mine here in Los Angeles. Uh, and it's hard for me to focus. I think is is this year that I have with meditating. But it's funny if you look at all the successive people and basically and in any industry, the one common denominat that they all have is that they meditate and and they swear by it, so it could be interesting. We'll see

how that goes. Um, thank you again for tuning into this week's episode. Thanks to Erica Mark Easton for for being here. UM. I'm gonna leave Amy out again because I'm a little annoyed, So tune in next week for another episode of Help I Suck At Dating. Thank you for listening. Um, maybe next week we'll have a different title. Follow Help I Suck At Dating with Dean Anglert on I Heart Radio or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts.