¶ Intro / Opening
First, I think you need to understand exactly how it is impacting you and how much you want to disclose maybe write it down ahead of time because there's so much we can overshare Do you disclose? Do you not disclose if you disclose? How do you disclose? So I would work with a friend, someone who has ADHD to help practice disclosing and thinking about what is the most important things for you as it relates to your professional setting that you might need help with or you know, your ADHD
might impact? Because you can go on and on because ADHD impacts pretty much everything. But what are the things that you truly need help with and are something you want your employer or colleagues to understand? Welcome to successful with ADHD. I'm Brooke Shipman. Let's get started. Welcome back to successful with ADHD. Today, we're going to do things a little bit differently. I invited one of my former ADHD clients and Podcast Producer,
Marc Ronick. To successful with ADHD, He is no stranger to successful with ADHD he has been on before sharing his journey. And the style that we're going to do on today's podcast is an Ask me anything. Generally, I have guests come on, and they share with me their strategies, their journey with ADHD. Today, I'm going to be interviewed by Mark where he is going to ask me questions related to strategies and support surrounding ADHD. And if all goes well, we'll continue to do some ask Manny
things. All right, so welcome, Mark. So great to have you back on successful with ADHD,
a Brooke, thank you. And selfishly, this feels, I'm really excited about this, because hey, I'm getting a coaching session with Brooke, I'll take it anytime. And where, yes, former client, but behind the scenes, Brooke is always there for me when I need it. When I'm struggling a little bit with my ADHD, she's, you know, I can send her a text tutor a message. And she usually at the very least is able to send me some kind of encouraging words that helps get set me straight.
So this will be a nice revisit to how we used to do things. And I'm hopeful I think this will be helpful to others, too. I want to do this, were really focusing a lot more on having ADHD, and the business. I as you know, there are times for me where it is really challenging. And quite frankly, I There are days where I just want to throw it all away and just say, forget it, it's too much, I can't handle it. I want to be done with it. And so I want to dig in to a few
different areas. And I think really the best place to start is after all these years, I still find myself doing a lot of my work at the last minute. For example, the reason why I'm sharing this with you as the first question is because even prepping for this interview, aside from the phone call that we did prior, I was prepping this morning for this interview. And it's a little after 12pm. So literally just hours ago really preparing for it. And I guess it bugs me that I seem to continue
to do things last minute. And then on the other on the other hand, I wonder like, is it really such a bad thing? You know, I certainly hear it from others. Don't wait till the last minute. I heard that growing up through school of my life. So should I be worried about this last minute habit? Or is there a way to maybe make it work to my advantage? Well,
¶ Approach to last-minute preparations and how it relates to ADHD.
I want to follow up on that because this morning, I also presented to IBM about ADHD in the workplace. And I spent weeks prepping for this presentation. And as a caveat, I'll add that right before of course, I continued to prepare. So my question to you is, was the preparation that you did right before interview today necessary or was it something that you did because it was coming up and the dopamine
started flowing? There was a deadline, you got excited and you said, I want to make sure this first episode is amazing. And I'm going to do even more than I had planned?
That's a great question. And it's one that in a lot of cases, I may have a different answer in this case. I genuinely what look, I feel like it's important for me, as you know, because more or less, I am kind of interviewing here. And as the person preparing the questions, I felt it was important to prepare them in a way in a structure that will flow well for an audience. Right. So that's my producer hat on. And I have prepared for other interviews recently were Yeah, I did take a few days here
and there to work on it. But for the most part, that's not how I work in so I feel like to answer your question. In this case, I needed I did not have the questions mapped out. I didn't put them in any order. I literally sat down with a blank piece of paper, and the transcript from our pre call to help guide me a little bit to remind myself of what were some of the things we were going to talk about today. But so yeah, I literally started from
¶ A look into procrastination and its ties with ADHD.
scratch. Okay. And what happens that you didn't do it prior to this morning? Just out of curiosity?
What happened? What do you mean?
What took place in your day to day that stopped you from preparing before last minute.
So in that in this case, I think it was procrastination. I didn't even take the time to. I want to get to this too. I didn't take the time to block out the time to prepare. Okay, I think I even said in my head, I'll probably do it that morning, especially leading up to it the last several days. I've told myself and I know, for example, I know I had time yesterday, I could have done it. Right. But I in my head just told myself, you'll do it. Just do it in the morning, you'll be fine. Now,
if I wasn't who I was right, and we weren't friends, would you have waited until the last minute, or would you have prepared?
That's a fair question. And I'm thinking about the very last interview I did for my own podcast, where I didn't I was I didn't have a relationship with the person. And I did take more time and found several different days leading up to it to prepare. And yes, I prepared a little bit that morning as well. But yeah, I took some time. I didn't schedule it. Right. Like I didn't tell myself. All right, on Monday at 3pm. I'm going to sit down and start preparing for this interview, which
is front of mind for you. Because that's all you probably could think about with ADHD. Right? You got to hold on to this is coming out. This is coming up. This is coming up. This is coming up. I have to do it. I have to do it. I have to do it. Yeah.
And I think it was also a dopamine excitement rush to because I was really excited for that interview. I it was the first one for my
PI. What do you say?
It's that you and I it's old hat like I can talk to you for hours. And I don't necessarily have to prepare as hard for it. Right? Yeah. So and it's my life, right? Where as that interview, I'm asking very specific questions for my audience. This, this interview is more about my own challenges, so it feels a little easier.
Right. So to answer your first question, is it a bad thing to procrastinate? I think it depends on the situation. And I think sometimes we procrastinate for good reasons. But we have a negative association with it. So it all depends on what the situation is. Sometimes we procrastinate because we know that the thing that we've said we are going to do, it's not the right thing to
Yeah, I appreciate you saying that. I think and I don't know you tell me Is this a common thing with ADHD ears is not being able to decipher the situation, right? It's just one blanket thing for me when I think about preparing for an interview. And, you know, if I didn't prepare with enough time, then I get down on myself about it. Mark, why are you doing this right now, when you have an hour left before you're going to sit down with Brooke and I start feeling guilty and judging
myself? Is that a common thing? Yeah,
I think a lot of it has to do with our childhood growing up. with ADHD we have executive dysfunction in the planning and prioritization and organization and procrastination is a real thing. So you probably got in trouble for waiting until the last minute. You probably received negative messages for waiting
until the last minute. So we automatically associate procrastination as bad, bad because of the rst the rejection sensitive dysphoria that we feel based on the negative messages that we received growing up. Yeah.
And you know, the last minute thing. I feel like it's also when I'm looking at it through the perspective, you're sharing the last minute thing. I think, subconsciously, I know, it's actually helping me as somebody with ADHD because if I had prepared for our interview a week ago, and Ben all done, like, Okay, it's good. I feel like this is in a good place, I can walk away from it and get started with Brooke when she's
ready. And so the thing is, is that it helps me preparing last minute helps me feel like I'm in the interviewer when we sit down it I it's fresh in my head. Right. So I appreciate what you're saying. It helps me to your earlier point, it's really pay attention to what's this specific situation? And is it a disadvantage or not? Right? Like, is it a bad thing that I waited till the last minute? No, now that I'm talking to you about it? No, it probably
wasn't. It helped me feel like I would be more in the moment more present with you doing it right before we sit down? Exactly.
So I think the takeaway is just leaning into what the moment is and reflecting like, is it really that bad? What did I learn from this? Could I have done anything differently? If I did something differently? Would that have been a good thing? Would it have been Is there is there a good or a bad? It's just you know, situational?
Yeah, yeah. Okay. So then digging into some of my specific challenges, some of these you may have heard before, some of them you may not, although I think this first one you definitely have heard me say it's one of the hurdles that I've encountered, that it's not just about finding the right tools to help me with ADHD, but actually getting started using the right tools. So it's like, it's like needing a tool to even get into the other tool?
Because, yeah, because that initial push or motivation often seems just out of reach for me. So how do you address this challenge with your clients? What strategies do you recommend for overcoming that initial barrier to engagement with helpful resources like the ones that you often provide?
¶ Strategies for utilizing tools and overcoming the initial barriers to engagement.
Yeah, that's spot on. So I often say to people with planning, let's say, like, you can't just plan and expect everything to go well, like you have to actually plan to plan. So here, you need a tool for the tool. So accountability is huge. Knowing the first step to get started. That's often what can be confusing for ADHD is like, even if you have the planning tools, organization tools, and everything is all laid out for you. Like, do you know the first step? Do you know the vision of
where this thing is going? does it align with your strengths, your purpose, your values, your motivation for doing things? Are you low on dopamine? Do we need a doba menu to lean into increasing that dopamine? Is it the right time of day for you? Do you have other things going on? That's clouding your space. So if that's the case, I often just mindmap or brain dump or plan out my week to get
everything out of my head. So I can say focus on the thing that I need to are there visual distractions do you need to leave environment that you're in so all of these things are factors. But in addition, the ability to get started is a challenge for individuals with ADHD. It's a big challenge. So all the things that I mentioned can help and having that accountability, like body doubling another thing, having I see that you just picked up your fidget having a secondary focus
that can help. So sometimes we need to block out the overstimulation that we receive all the input we receive. So you know, standing up walking, fidgeting, listening to music, doing something else that doesn't take away from the thing, the main focus can be helpful to get started as well.
Interesting. For me, I always feel like it's a low dopamine situation, because like when it's time to get started. If my dopamine isn't where I feel it needs to be. I'm not getting started and you said something that I'm really curious about. You mentioned, do you need your dopamine menu? Right. What is that? Tell me a little bit about that?
Yeah, So I actually put it in my book activate your ADHD potential. So basically, it's a bunch of dopamine inducing things or activities or food that you can do, or eat or be a part of, that will increase your dopamine
level. So for example, having omega going outside being, you know, in the sun, being around nature, planning something that's exciting thinking about something that's exciting, getting, of course, proper sleep, water, nutrition, laughing, all of these things can increase your dopamine levels. And with ADHD, we have a really low dopamine baseline or really high dopamine input. So when we have high dopamine, we hyper focus, when we have low dopamine, usually we're underwhelmed or bored or things
are monotonous. We don't get the normal dopamine drip like a neurotypical does. So we're constantly trying to modulate our dopamine levels or lean into the high dopamine when we get that that's that hyper focus that people are afraid of even going to the bathroom with, when you're in it. Yeah.
Wow. Yeah, so and then my fear about that is distracting myself. In other words, so I go do a thing that helps increase my dopamine. And then I'm afraid that then I'm just going to get hyper fixated on doing that thing, because it feels so good. And I'm not going to want to go and do the thing that I'm trying to get done. So what do I do?
Well, you have to have the right conditions, and you have to have a system that you know, you will come back to the thing that you get excited about. So for me as a business owner, because I know you brought that up in the beginning, I have a board and Asana board, and every time this new, exciting, shiny opportunity arises in my business instead of jumping on it, which I used to do, and sometimes I still do, I'm not gonna lie, I'm not
perfect. I'll drop it in the future opportunities to explore and I'll sit on it and come back to it set a reminder for 30 days. And generally speaking, I'm not that excited about 30 days later, right? So I get dopamine by planning out my week
and crossing things off. And knowing that if I'm distracted or something's not, you know, happening for me in the day, I'm having a low dopamine day, or I'm really anxious or stressed out or didn't get a good night's sleep, or the toddler is screaming or something is happening in my life. I look at my schedule, and I say, Okay, I plan on doing these things today. It's not happening. I have this whole block of time, Thursday that I can do the thing.
Okay, well, the you know, that's a perfect segue, because the next question I had written down is to talk a little bit about time management and time blocking. I've tried time blocking several times as a strategy to manage my day, but it hasn't really stuck for me. Even with setting alarms and notifications on my phone, putting it in my calendar, I find myself acknowledging it when it comes up, up. It's a time block. Right, but then returning to whatever was I was
doing in the first place. I don't want to stop what it was that I was doing. Or quite frankly, maybe I really wasn't even doing a lot. But I've convinced myself that oh, I'm doing other things. I don't need to do this right now. Right? So many people with ADHD and those who are also neurotypical, I've heard many swear by time blocking, but it feels like it's not working for me. So are there alternatives? Or how do I get myself to actually stay disciplined with time blocking?
¶ Discussing the effectiveness of time blocking and alternative strategies.
The
first thing I'm going to ask is the things that you you had said that you're doing other things that might be more interesting. The things that are not as interesting. Why are you doing them?
Hmm. I mean, look, sometimes it could be because it's a promise I made to a client about getting something done that you know, it has to get done, but I'm not particularly excited about doing it.
Okay. Is there any level of accountability that you can have that's not intrinsic that you can create for yourself? Hmm.
Well, I guess help me define what do we mean by a level of accountability?
So you promised this client that you will do X So what ends up happening? Were you? Do you give a date by when you're going to do it?
Yeah. And now that you're explaining it that way to me, I'll probably actually prioritize that over my own stuff when I've set that date or in really, when I've made that commitment to a client, right? Because a client, that's the, that's the driving force of my business, and I don't want to disappoint my clients. So maybe I've actually chosen a lousy example thinking about that, because I think in most cases, I'm gonna get that done. When I
say I'm gonna get that done. So I'm trying to think of a good example of something that I'm doing that why is, why am I doing it? If it's not exciting me? Well, listen,
while you think about it, I mean, there's plenty of things that we have to do as adults that don't excite us, right, we have to do we have to compile our taxes. I don't know anyone who's excited about that. Right. And that's usually something we procrastinate about laundry, I mean, yeah, so you can offload that and you can, you know, hire someone, there are things you can do as it
relates to that. But there are things right, as an adult, as a parent, as a spouse that you have to do that you don't love doing. Yeah. So if you have the ability to delegate, eliminate, break things down. Great. If you don't, then again, I would pair it with a dopamine inducing task, I would do a dopamine inducing task first, then do it, I would figure out your optimal focus time of the day, and try to start there, rather than waiting until a time where you're tired or burnt out to do
it. Yeah, those are all options. And then that accountability piece, you know, whether your body doubling or giving someone out there a date to do it, like even if you were to do your taxes, you have to get your taxes done by a certain day, right? Or else you pay penalties. So, you know, thinking about all those things can help. Not saying it's a foolproof answer. But once you realize you cannot eliminate delegate anything like that, you
have to do that thing. Even if it doesn't align with your purpose, your passion, your strengths, you have to do it as a responsible adult. I would say that accountability is huge.
Yeah. And I think you've helped me connect the dots. Because I was sitting here as you were sharing, I was thinking about that, how much more accountable I make myself when I have to answer to a client, right? And then I was thinking to myself, Well, who else besides a client? Could I answer to? And that's, that's
the challenge for me. Because if say it's a friend, well, I don't know how accountable I'm going to actually make myself they might make me accountable in the sense we'll sit down on the day that I said, I'm going to get something done. But I don't feel as responsible to get it done. Because it's a friend of mine. Right. And I can probably quit, quite frankly, I could probably bullshit them. Right. I didn't get it done for these reasons. But we'll and and then they'll
probably let me off the hook. I need to find somebody that's not going to let me off the hook. I need to have a little bit of that fear factor, I think.
Yeah, I think when we show up in groups of other people outside of our friends, like those accountability, coaching groups, weekly thing, like, when you give your word and you put it out there and you don't follow through, and then other people are following through around you. That's when it can make a difference. But yeah, I mean, like friends can let you off the
hook. Are there consequences? Yeah. Are the consequences big enough for you to not like bends your due dates or flexibility with your friends, including me? Yes. So you need to find someone who potentially is not your friend to do those things. Yeah, or, you know, promise social media that you're going to do it promise a bigger group of people that you're going to do it. And generally when you do that, as a people pleaser, you're gonna do it. Yeah. Yeah. Is it the
healthiest way? No, but you know, sometimes we have to play games with ourselves to get the thing done.
Mm hmm. All right.
So now I know. I'm definitely gonna start this quest to find that person or maybe group and I know you have some groups, too, that you do this, where the accountability groups, I'm going to, that's a goal I am setting for myself and I will say by the end of the month, I will have somebody that I can report to for my accountability, because I really it because I've also noticed, I avoid that, whether I realize it or not now that I'm thinking back, I avoid finding that person to hold me
accountable. Because I think deep down, I know it's going to hold me accountable. And I'm actually going to have to do the hard work. Right.
Remember, before you got started with our coaching, you had chosen another coach, because you had said that I intimidated you. Yes. This sense of like, you knew you're gonna have to do shit. Yeah,
yeah. And I, and it didn't, it took me until to really realize, okay, this wasn't a good fit with that other coach. And, and then when I went back to think about who am I going to work with now. And I was, you know, and I saw your name on my list, and I was in the first thought was, oh, no, she was way too intimidating. And then I thought, well, maybe that's what I need. And so I appreciate having this conversation with you. Because, you know, I think with ADHD, yeah, I can go through all the
coaching in the world. And I have so much respect for your coaching. But thank you, after some time, I am going to forget about it, or I'm just, you know, I'm going to put things. Yeah. So it's good to revisit these conversations. I appreciate it.
¶ Revisiting the topic of perfectionism and how it can obscure progress.
Absolutely. And I can't even tell you how many you're not alone in this. First of all, like, I can't even tell you how many consultations I've had with potential clients who like on their form, when they were filling out their form on our website. I am 100% committed, I need this, I need this, I need this. And then, you know, it's not as prevalent to them in the call, because the problem is not right in front of
them anymore. And it's out of sight out of mind in the moment until it gets really bad again, and then they reach back out like a month or two later. So you're not alone in that.
Yeah, that's yeah, that's reassuring, even though it'll in the moment, it it's frustrating. But yeah, I feel that. And another area that I need to revisit with you is really managing my perfectionism. Because I've been realizing lately that it's actually a bigger deal, I think than I thought it was because I used to tell myself, it wasn't a problem, because I didn't see it affecting certain areas of my
life. Like when I'm interviewing for a podcast, but but the more I think about it, the more I see how it's actually holding me back or even stopping me from getting started on different projects, different opportunities. So how can I tackle this perfectionism? Especially when it sneaks up on me in ways that I didn't initially recognize?
Well, I have an answer to that. However, I'm going to challenge you as a coach. You came to me initially, like a year ago at this point, and said to me that you had difficulty showing up on social media. And you got advice that said, just show up like, don't you know, don't worry about the perfections and Bs, just do it. Right. Okay. But what ended up working for you? I mean, I think I know the answer. But I want you to say,
Well, what worked for me, I mean, I think the only thing I could think of was the repetition of doing it. I think that that helped me show up just by the more I did it, the more comfortable I became.
And how did you show up though, initially, before the repetition? Oh,
with hesitancy and fear?
And how us, like, how did you actually post? What type of steps did you take?
I, you know, I can't. When I think back to it, what did I actually do to do it? I mean, I ultimately it was, it was fear of if I'm not putting out content, people aren't going to find me people aren't going to connect with me. And, and they was important to me to help grow my business to as my personal values is connection. And it was a way to connect with people. And so I think I was can you know, connecting to use the same word again with that piece?
You were, but can I share my observation? Yes, you collaborated with someone? Yeah.
Thank you for saying that. Yes. Because now collaboration, such a big piece and everything that I'm doing. Yes.
I mean, think about This right? My podcast successful with ADHD wouldn't have started had you not been a client of mine, I have wanted to put a podcast out for six years. And I did it initially as a co host with another company. But I always wanted to go solo. And it wasn't until you made it easier for me, you coached me through it, you hold in my you held my hands and said, This is the way you showed me the way. And then you did all the stuff that I didn't want to do like all the
editing, right? For you. Also coming onto this podcast to do and ask me anything. I had come to you and said I want to do this. And you kept coming to me and saying, When are you going to do it? When are you going to do it? What are you going to do it? And then I said I don't know. You know, I'm busy. Leave me alone? And then finally? And finally you said yeah, no, I'm happy to interview you. And I did it. So collaboration is huge
for you. It's huge for me, you collaborated with Nick and you started posting on social media. And I'm guessing you got good feedback. And it worked for you. Yeah, that that gave you that boost? Yeah,
I still don't love posting on social media. And it's so much easier when I get to collaborate. I mean, if you go back and look at my Instagram posts, a lot of them it's me and somebody else. Right? Because like you said, yeah, that was an easier way for me to show up and and get excited about it. Yeah. Yeah.
So I think it's about not having a black and white answer to like, Oh, this is bad. Or this is how you start, right? It's thinking differently, what is a different solution that I could come up with to do this? What aligns with your core values? So connection is huge. For me, it's huge for you. Maybe I need that other person to do it with me. And get me comfortable? And there's nothing wrong with that.
Why do you think people become employees before they own their own business, because you need to be shown the way sometimes you need mentoring, you need help, before you can do the thing, not to say that you need it. But some people feel like they're more comfortable. And that's okay. There's nothing wrong with it, everyone, we don't have linear paths with ADHD, our paths are non linear. So take an alternative route, we'll still get to where we need
to get to. But don't shame yourself because of that.
Yeah. And I think that, thank you for saying that. Because I think that shame is definitely a big piece of it. And I think that has to do with something you said earlier, the idea of how we are how we were programmed growing up, right? And just assuming it's bad. Like you were saying good or bad. And oh, it's bad, because I'm not doing this. And instead it's it's a it's about reprogramming our, our brains into understanding, like you said, having these alternative paths,
it doesn't mean it's bad. It just means that's how I get there. That's my preferred route.
Exactly, exactly. The negative memories are encoded in our brain so much more like Teflon, then the positive memories. So we have to work extra hard to reprogram, like you said, our brain is like a muscle. It can atrophy if we don't use it and practice in those reprogramming growth mindset ways.
Very cool. Okay, so I know we are coming up on time here. And I also believe it or not, last minute, was able to get some questions from some other people I know away.
¶ Legitimizing ADHD in personal and professional settings.
That was the point of this. Yeah,
yeah. So the this is actually my dearest friend, my best friend Jonah, who was literally just diagnosed at Well, I think technically at 51. He just turned 52 A couple of months ago, literally just diagnosed and he so let me here's his question. He basically many adults with ADHD struggled not only legitimizing it, in their own minds, but also explaining it really explaining its real impact to colleagues and employers in the workplace, friends and family. Right then.
And the example I'm thinking of, for me personally, is sometimes I'll say to one of my kids, you know, they'll call me out on something that was definitely like an ADHD moment, and I'll call it out let's say yeah, that's my ADHD and the kids will kind of laugh roll their eyes like yeah, it's ADHD. I know. Sure. You know, it's like we all do that you just made a boneheaded move, right? Like, that's where neurotypical sometimes neurotypical brains
might go, right? So could you share some advice on how to first internalize the legitimacy of ADHD for ourselves, and then also provide any strategies or tips for effectively communicating its challenges and needs in a professional setting?
Okay, so first, I think you need to understand exactly how it is impacting you and how much you want to disclose, I would say, to maybe write it down ahead of time, because there's so much we can overshare right? So I actually just spoke about this at IBM, it's like, do you disclose? Do you not disclose? If you disclose? How do you disclose? So I would work with a friend, someone who has ADHD, to help practice disclosing writing
it down. And thinking about what is the most important things for you as it relates to your professional setting that you might need help with or, you know, your ADHD might impact? Because you can go on and on because ADHD impacts pretty much everything. But what are the things that you truly need help with, and are something that you want your employer or colleagues to understand? Now, since he just got diagnosed, he's probably still trying to figure it all out. So he might not have
all the answers. So I remember when I first got diagnosed, even though I was in the business for 15 years, I couldn't 100% explain to my parents how x was related to ADHD. And to be honest, they didn't really understand not a good or bad thing. It's just they didn't understand. So all I said was, listen, I have ADHD, I got diagnose. I don't expect, you know, any thing from you related to it, I just wanted to let you know that I have a diagnosis. And it does impact areas of my
life. So I want you to know, that's it. And then for your friend, you know, he could say as things come up, would it be okay, if I share it with you? Or things that have worked for me in the past? Or are working for me, you know, you're not always going to have an absolute answer right away.
So how, how would Jonah know if he's oversharing? Right, because as ADHD ears, we can be really passionate about whatever it is we're talking about. And it's easy to overshare, as you were saying, so like, I appreciate what you're saying about writing everything down. But I'm thinking about it from my own lens. And I write this list down and I could see myself feeling like all of this is important. I got to share all of this. Right? How do we filter that?
So I'm curious why. And this is not judgment. But why he finds it important to share his diagnosis. I don't think it's a problem. I think it could be a good thing to share your diagnosis, but what about him is wanting to share it?
Well, for one, I think he's an open book in general. So I think that's just part of his nature. And too. I think he feels like it will and I'm speaking for him, but I think it feels like he's it helps legitimize some of maybe the concerns or feedback he's received in the past. Okay,
there we go. That's what I was thinking. So it legitimizes something so instead of coming up with the explanation, I have ADHD and I have issues with X, Y, and Z, or I'm legitimizing the problems that you have faced with my work in the past. How about I learned I have ADHD, it impacts me in these ways. And in the future? Can we discuss me receiving these type of accommodations like low cost accommodations? Or like, Would it be a problem? If I wear headphones? Would it be a
problem? If I got the meeting agenda ahead of time? Would it be a problem if I had a separate office like that can help me for this? So instead of using it as an explanation or an excuse, why not say okay, because these things happened? It is related to my ADHD and I'm obviously open to communicating about this, but I would also love to receive assistance with X, Y or Z. So it's like a growth mindset like I You want to work with this ADHD?
Yeah. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. So it's, it's really coming not just with here's the problem, okay, I figured it out. This is why I'm doing it. It's here, I figured out this is why I'm doing it. And here's some things I think would help me be successful moving. Yes,
yes, like solutions. And if you don't know a solution, chat about it with a mentor, a coach, a friend, a
community, find solutions. And if you really trust your boss, or colleague or whatever, maybe have an open discussion about it, like I'm coming to you, if they if they're neurodivergent friendly, or if they know about neuro divergence, like I'm coming to you to see if there's any programs maybe that the company has that I can spend some time learning about how to help my ADHD, or if you've had any other employees in the past who have ADHD that have had this issue and what's worked for them.
Awesome. Well, I will make sure he listens to this episode. I think that's helpful. And I know we have run out of time. So I have more questions for you, Brooke. Hopefully, you'll allow me back to it again, to ask you some more of these. And hopefully we'll get some questions also from the audience. I know you've got a loyal and large audience. So let's encourage them. Everybody, please. If you've got questions about ADHD, send a man email you is that the best way? Yes,
info at coaching with Brooke with an e.com. Or you can DM me on coaching with Brooke, Instagram, or successful with ADHD leave a review, ask your questions. Any of the three we'll be posting a lot on social media on Instagram with a forum for questions as well.
Awesome. Awesome. Well, thank you. I really appreciate having this coaching session with you. I missed it. And I I'm very appreciative that you allowed me to do this with you.
Thanks so much, Mark. Thanks for listening to this episode of successful with ADHD. I hope it helps you on your journey. And if you need any additional support for you or a loved one with ADHD, feel free to reach out to us at coaching with brooke.com and all social media platforms at coaching with Brooke and remember, it's Brooke with any Thanks again for listening. See you next time.