ARE ALL MALE FRIENDSHIPS ONLY SURFACE LEVEL?!? W/ SA NGUYEN

What are you guys going to be for Halloween? All right, you guys ready? And we're live in three, two, one. What's up, ladies and gentlemen? Welcome back to another episode of Sewer Talks. Joining me today, we have a very special guest, Ms. Seth. First question, worst podcast you've ever been on. Second question, what's your dating history with Jason? No, we're not going to talk about all that. No, they are. No, they are. That's what all the boring podcasts are. Yeah, we got some better. Yeah

I got this. Guys, joining us, we also have Mrs. Bintia Boy. Hello. Maria Lee. Devin Paul. And Johnson Williams. Guys. Sage over there. And I will be Sage. I'm going to try to keep the joke. going. Very sage-like. I'm going to try and be very sage-like today. I feel like I can do it. I don't know, man. Sage is so funny, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I like that. That's good.

And zone out like crazy. I can do that. I see why he zones out from over here, though, because I feel very far away from all you guys. Dude, that last time when he was like this, and he had no idea what the conversation was. That was my favorite. This side is so much better. Yeah, it's very pretty on that side.

We're repping Devin. You know, you talk really fast. Yeah, you do. I talk really fast. Yeah. What were you saying? I don't know. She was trying to say something. You can slow down. You can slow down. You're like, um. Who's she like? Yeah, what was I trying to figure it out? So we have a friend that also talks really fast. Do I really talk that fast? You'd be talking really fast really I feel like your mind wants to say stuff, but your body can't keep up with your brain. Yeah

Okay, but I feel like I don't stumble like a, like a, a, a, a, a. Oh, you were stuttering earlier. You were stuttering. You'd be stuttering. Oh, narts. Oh, damn it. Oh, dang it. Alex looked up when you said cracking. Oh, guys. Also, we finally got Alex Johnson in the background. Damn, you did an intro. I know, Alex. Go ahead and say hi.

Hi, guys. You got a mic. I got a mic now. But yeah, guys, no, this podcast has been a long time coming. We definitely want to have Sat on here for a minute. We actually all just met her like two weeks ago at a bomb. We can go to a better Wait, are we thinking? Is it by the beach? Is it Javier?

That's how you know she'll be watching our videos. No, no, no. We just told her. We just told her about it. Sad, say no. No, please. No, it's a great spot. No means no. What Maru said, no means no. No means no. What was your first impression?

honest like honest like let's go one by one oh my god i was just intimidated holy i came out like can you guys come um i'm staying in my car but i'm gonna come when you come shake oh i'm in the bathroom bathroom for an hour like actually you guys it took me forever restroom like the whole parking situation had to go back to get my fucking what is it validation like it was a whole

And then he goes, 6.30. Oh, fuck. Yeah, and it was like, shoot, you were like the first person there, too. It was like 4. Yeah, it was like 4 p.m. Right there, huh? So it wasn't a 4 drive. Okay. Okay. Oh, no. We talking about that. We talking about that.

First interaction with Sasha, she called me fucking broke. I did not call you fucking broke. I did not call you fucking broke. I did not call you broke. She big-dogged me. She big-dogged me. Guys, if you guys didn't know, when I met Sasha, she was telling me how she wants to go to USC, which I think is amazing and it's great.

Great, great school. Great school. And I was talking about how I was really supposed to go to USC. And I was like, but I didn't go because I didn't have the money to go. And then Sad was like, oh yeah, I'm gonna go because I do social media and I make... I did not say that shit! I think I heard that one. You heard that one? You weren't there. And then you were like...

Like, oh, I still want to go. And she was like, oh, you're too old for that shit, right? She said, damn, Unk, you should probably get your life together. Well, he's pushing 40. What am I supposed to say? No, the jokes are starting y'all It was us making the jokes at first, man. For your next birthday, I'm putting 30 on the candle. When I turn 21, can we throw off a massive sad birthday? Yeah. Let's throw like a, what do you call it? Midlife crisis.

21 i don't like you no you know it's crazy i don't even think i'm going to celebrate my 24th No cuz 24 technically you're old like 24 you're about to be old I think 25 is when you start feeling like oh 24 is when you your alcohol like you start getting hungover more That's real. Equal equilibrium. I mean, brutal.

No, literally. You be having worse? I'm having some pretty bad hangovers. Owen don't seem like he got hangovers. Owen fights through the hangovers. He runs on Diesel. It's not the same type of thing. Owen runs off. Mango cards. Babes. and uh the rick and morty cart he doesn't eat either no he when we have had a full two-day vendor drinking till like 5 a.m.

I'll like go to the gym at like 11 a.m. the next day. I'll eat. I'll have like a shake or whatever. And he will pop up and be like, oh, you're going to the gym? I'm like, yeah. He's like, oh, I'm gonna go with you. I'm like, you're in jeans, bro. And then he'll go in Sean's room and grab clothes. And then he'll come with me and dude will push more weight than I have ever pushed in my life.

And he'll throw up somehow. And he'll throw up. But he's fine right after that. No, he's ridiculous. He's the Miller genius. I gotta call that guy. I think he has a lot of my shit. He does. He does. But yeah, I can't wait. You can't say that, because then we'll be 30. Well, you will be. When I'm 21, you guys are pushing 30, no? I'm kidding. Wait, hold on. I'm trying to think. No, you're right. I turned 21. I'm 19. I'll be 21 in about two years.

I'm not gonna lie to you, you are not gonna party with us when you're 21. We're gonna be... But you have to come out for mine. For your birthday? Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. I'll be the uncle. I'll chaperone. Yeah. Chaperone? You guys are going to be my chaperones on my party buddies. anytime soon this man no you have so much energy still yeah this last weekend this man did not stop drinking

We all were drinking I was there to this weekend. Yeah, and he was getting with all the girls too, huh? Yeah, he had six girls on his No, this is not true You started when you started pulling up lies about me. What are you talking about? What lies there's a new Me be Devin. What were you going to say? Oh, uh, on the, after this weekend on the drive to the air. it was like maru our friend and i like we were totally dead and then owen and devon are sitting next to each other

They're just going bar for bar on the songs that are played. What song was it? I forget. Look at me now by Chris Brown. Everybody was violently hungover and like quiet Uber. All you hear is like they're driving on the freeway. No, but I was looking at the drive. mirror and then he was like he was trying not to laugh like you know it was like 10 30 in the morning everybody's like groaning in the back We try

I've been really fucking with Bruno Mars and Lady Gaga's new song. It's so good. I still haven't heard it. Lady Gaga, we're mutuals on TikTok. What? She was one of the very first celebrities to ever follow me on TikTok. I followed her immediately. Wait, who? Lady Gaga. She's still following you? Yes. No, I looked at her and I was like...

She only followed, at the time, she only followed 25 people. And I was one of them. I was like, oh my God. Right, so you love Lady Gaga. You love her then, right? Now I know I love her. I messaged her for fun. She obviously never saw it. If you love her so much, name five Lady Gaga. Don't have to. You don't have to. Hook your face. Telephone. Someone like you. Bad romance. Bad romance is so good. Yeah, I played with the Wii U The Wii was lit. It's the Wii U. It's just a Wii. It's the same.

Yeah, oh we use discontinued to now they only got switches, but we was so much fun that we was so fun now They only have my we like stopped working. They just have video Are you old enough to have Game Boys? Yes. Right at the borderline of it. That was probably the youngest memory I have. What was your guys' first... Oh yeah, or like Super Mario Mine was Cooking Mama Cooking Mama I had the old flip phones

Damn! Damn, Grandpa! That was the OG game, right? That was the original game. That was the original game. Did you guys know real quick, sorry, Lady Gaga and Bruno Mars' song Die With A Smile is actually about Attack on Titan. Is it actually? It's about Mikasa and Eren. I did hear that. I thought it was a joke though. Bruno Mars! Did they watch anime? Yeah, Bruno Mars said it's about Eren and Mikasa from Attack on Titan.

Yeah. There's edits of it all over my laptop. Yeah. Hey, that's actually dope as fuck. Wait, my first game was Zelda, though. Did you play Zelda? Yes. What was your favorite game on Cool Math Games? Cool Math Games? I've never played Cool Math. Mine was... Where like there's a block and you gotta like... The running game. The running game! I was gonna say my running game. I don't know if y'all had this. Because I played this in Argentina. So I don't know. But it was like for the girls.

Sticks and stones? They would have like girls They would have like little like bars Put ease on them. Do you remember that? Do you guys do impress? It was like games for girls or something. I want to see your post 28. You want to see my post? Isn't it the? Yeah. I'm really good at that game. We were talking about cool math games. Did you play cool math games? What's your favorite game on there? The ones that weren't really math, right? Yeah. What's your favorite game? choppapica

Like all the mini games? You guys never played that? Mini Clip? I play Mini Clip all the time. You remember the game with the three little kids on the boat? I played Angry Birds too. I never got into it. Everybody used to love it though. Played off happy bird. Oh that was good. Yeah, they discontinued it too. Yeah, that was bad Wait, so what about individually? What were your first impressions everybody individually once you start talking? Honestly, like I just thought

Or like everyone was well respected with everyone. Yeah, I just got a well got along so well and I was like I feel like they're all older. But then I was like, wait, but I'm in it anyway. No, yeah, you fit right in. You were helping us cook. Yeah, you did really well, honestly. Yeah, I was helping Alex. And then Nick flames my birthday. those aren't circles you have a bowling ball head he's like those aren't circles He was flaming like those are not circles and they're so tiny

That was cool though. She just like jumped right in. That's dope. Cooking is my thing. That's cool. Oh really? You like to cook? Yeah, I love cooking.

I do when it comes to strangers. But like, low-key, we were kind of strangers? Or were you like, oh, I've seen them before? I think it's because I was familiar with you guys' faces and I knew all your names already. Okay. See, when it comes... if you had like a really bad one yet yeah i remember because when we went to the source together like you seemed a little like shyer yeah but so many people approached her guys like literally every person we

I was like, Maru's who? No, no, no. Like, Sa was like a fucking Kim Kardashian. I don't know. It was that crazy. I was like, damn. Usually it's that like, Rave, Seasides, those frat parks. She's not Korean actually kim is a vietnamese name but it's spelled it's you say as kim oh is it spelled k-i-m-2 yeah oh interesting no that seemed that was super interesting yeah because you hopped in like right at the bonfire and you were like

like social anxiety. I do, but it only comes, it only, it's only with fans. Okay. Or like, not fans, I love, I love like, I don't want to call them fans, friends, but like, you know. You have a weird encounter with one yet? Yeah. Really? You want to talk about it? Yeah.

I was in, I was like, I was like crossing the street and like this car like rolls down the window and then they're just like, whore and i was like wow but like but then like i didn't know they're talking about me right but then like in the weed whore and then i was just like this was like a while back this was like five six months ago so like what the fuck that's so scary that's that's not like parasocial younger yeah i didn't even look back

I heard that shit and I was like... Was it at school? No, it was just I was crossing the street like in Garden Grove. I do have a quick question. This actually is a question that I have, but since we're already talking about this, it kind of dives into it a little bit. Do you feel like your audience has like changed at all or like comments have been differently since?

Like when you're at the Faye's house and stuff like that. Do you see like an audience switch? Or do you think it's always... the audience it's not it was an audience switch it was an addition of audience yeah so my my my my original audience they stayed with me I didn't incorporate too much of the stream shit onto my own entity, like my own, cause I'm my own person. So I don't want to.

and i make it like so that obviously i want to be advertizable as well still advertizable and i'm not saying phase isn't like unadvertizable but So I try to keep it separate but No, they seem so cool. You know what? I will say that like everything they're doing is absolutely insane. I think the comeback of FaZe is gonna go down in fucking history. You get what happened with like that whole company before. FaZe is a mastermind and he's so nice.

super nice but what about it uh like the whole like more people skimming money like the owners yeah they were like because they went public with it right yeah they went public and then they were taking more than like half the money and the original members had no say

their ownership turned the whole like brand around and like it's an org now it's an org it's not really a company it's just like an org and like no payment but there's no like payment transactions between each member each member is just like a whole family

you know make content and be happy and it's so nice it's so wholesome in there like you make you think it's not wholesome but it's actually super wholesome and everyone just love each other no i can tell even just like watching clips online that they all get a little and it's i think it's probably And obviously I have a close up with Jason. It's good to find people in the social media industry that you really like. Safe and comfortable with.

is kind of like that yeah but that's good to hear that outside of that it's nice too and i liked the expansion of my Asian little family girl. You know? Where'd you grow up? When I grew up? Orange County. But like, what city in Orange County? Fountain Valley. Right now, OC Asians, they have their... it's because of the whole seaside bakery situation yeah who even started that what who even started that nah yeah i was talking to um i was like talking a bit about this recently about

switch to like not necessarily like everyone hating socal asians but like the whole switch of like people uh talking about them or like bringing them up uh clowning them or making fun of them and it was like overnight dude it was like an overnight thing where people just started like um shitting on socal asians and i was like well at least not that bad and then i saw what everyone was doing at seaside bakery in lagoons i would go there

Throw drinks on each other. And I'm like, all right, no. Gooning around. Did you see Vitt throw a drink at someone? Yeah, we're talking about that. Hey, Vitt was one of them. Vitt's one of them. No, no, we cloned him for that, too, on the podcast. Like, that, I don't know. I don't know. He and I are going, he wants to go tomorrow. You know

Or he just said, let's go to C-side Vegas. No, well, I'm going with Arky. Who's Arky? Arky is one of the FaZe cameramans. He's an amazing dude. Yeah, amazing dude. Oh, FaZe. Yeah, he wants to go for his stream and then I was like, I might be in Let's go to seaside after the fucking beach and I was like, oh hell no, this is like what Friday night. I'm not doing this shit

He's been trying to get all of us together for a while now. He literally asked me and Sean every weekend. He asked me on a Tuesday night. He did. And I was like, you gotta go home. He wanted us to go with him Wednesday night when we were on a stream. You remember? Yes. 50 minute drive back. No. Do you think there's any like harsh realities you've had to face now that you're an influencer entering the influencer world like things that you never

Simple as that. It was just hate. It was just like in comments. But like, I think my, I have a thicker skin. Or I built it up. Obviously, it was thin back then. Because when I started. No, I was like 18. I was like freshly 18. And then I'm 19 now, so it's only been like a year and a half. Really? You started off only a year and a half? Yeah. Maybe I was, but I started my senior year.

Influencers, like IRL. That makes sense. Who was like your first one where you were like, holy shit. My first ever friend, influencer. It was Nicole Lano, actually. Oh, was it? Yes, and I love her. She's younger than me. Oh, is she? Yeah, and she just graduated.

all of her college content she's very pg in the beginning i originally was like okay i'm gonna stay pg because but then that wasn't the true me I know actually I think I said this before it was like making content itself is like it's a hundred percent you but it's not 100 of yes i agree with that yeah yeah so yeah being wholesome or whatever yeah that's 100% me but not all of me Do you think you'll ever be like that where you will put 100% of you online? Are you always like, you know what?

My personal life, yes. Family life, yes. School life, probably, yes. Everything else, probably on the internet. Yeah, that's nice to share. I genuinely don't think I'm a terrible person, like easy person. What's going on in that damn head? What's going on in your damn head? I've been saying this is him for the past-

Like, yo, yo, ego getting big. I literally haven't said anything. You called yourself group leader. I didn't call myself group leader. I said I was the punching bag of the group, and then he called me group leader. Yeah, but then psychologically reversed, like, that just means... You're trying to be very humble. Wait, aren't you a psychology major? No, I'm a business major. Business, double major, and bio. Yeah, I'm trying to.

But I might drop by on Hoosley. It depends how busy I get. Because this year is like a high... so we'll see and now you have so much money that you can afford USD right? no no no no no you do though you do though he'll never stop with that no real quick wait going back what do you think has helped you deal with like all the

Fuck them. Like, they all got zero followers anyway. Like, every DM that has been sent hate to me, like, everyone has no profile picture, zero following, and, like, one million followers. One million following, zero followers, and no profile picture. Like, come on, shoot your bitch at that. Honestly, but like I'm like who would even hate like but you wouldn't even know who has a

You would never know. Dude, I would love to find out. It could be this guy behind the scenes. It could be him. It could be you. You're the one hanging on us. You could have a burner. How do we act like we all have it in one burner account? I have a burner account, but like... I have my old Finstam, but I don't know. What was that? I guess it just played.

I just want a rewind his freaky playlist comes on right now yeah he's playing tv girl too oh my gosh dude it's alex's playlist guys it's nick's playlist but alex chose Two for two on the freaky scale. Why are we all also acting like we don't all have a freaky time playlist? I don't. playlist got leaked on Jason's stream. What the? You have a freaky playlist? My brother does another meme. Hold on. Hold on. No, no, no. I didn't know it was public. I didn't. It wasn't.

it wasn't like public public like he took my phone he was I was an ox and he was like looking through my thing and he was showing the stream he's like let's look at Sam's playlist and he was like You have a free playlist! And then he showed the stream, and it started off with fucking Chase Atlantic. And then I got clowned- I keep getting clowned for- Oh my god! No way! You see the embarrassment in my face? you Look at me! Look at him! I couldn't even look! That's so funny

No, that's The Weeknd. Girl put in words. But that's in the playlist. Is that in the playlist? That's in the playlist. That's a great song though. What's yours title? What's the title? It's literally called Fuck. That's great. I was just like because like then after that it got so many followers And then I was getting DMs and I was like, you're too young to have a free class.

i was just like okay but like it was always public like it was never private like it was always public on my spotify like if y'all trying to shame me for now like it was always public and you're just funny Like I get followers on my playlist Why did you pull that You know what's funny is cuz there's k-pop in there so then people are like

Why is there kpop in here? And I was like, it's good. You got the weekend show on here too. Oh, you have party monster in there? Party monster's crazy. Oh my god. Yo! Oh, she got the STP interlude though! Okay, I might need this. Smoke some, drink some, pop one. Sweater weather. That's such a good ending song. something with that last one. I'm not gonna lie when I first made my uh Honestly, you guys all have one honestly, I just put my throwback

I don't have one either. You mean fucking to like... No, no, no. I'll like, you know... Don't be pulling up anything. Oh hell yeah, I'm getting down at that. i just didn't run out but i actually have played that so i really do see you as like a younger sister because that kind of like She's 19. I know, for real. Oh, this is the one that was just playing. Y'all forget I'm 19. Do I act 19? Do I act 19? No, literally, that's what I'm feeling right now.

We'll think about cutting it. I will see. See, mine's old though. Mine's got... That privacy, that's a good one. Nah, this shit's fire. This is my old, old man. This shit's fire. Wait, slow down. I feel like I'm cooking. I'm waiting to see bedrock Come on. Birthday sex. Birthday sex is crazy. Tune in booty. Tune in booty. Damn. How come there's no Brent in there? You're a freak mom. How come there's no Brent? I feel like there's red at the bottom. Oh, there is love scars three

Skywalking? Can't love? Can't love is crazy. I have it set up in an order. I wanna love you. So it's like when she comes to the crib. Oh my god. so what happens and then what's basically what and then get it shawty comes on and it's go time I'm just saying like it's perfectly tailored to the type of game that I'm performing to. You know what I mean? There's mad songs. I know. So you don't hear shuffle? There's a long ass fucking How long are we going for? Bro, next pillow talk?

It's long, bro. Oh my god. It's still going. Oh, I got moved by Doja Cat on there. Are you serious? Oh my goodness. 14 hours. 14 hours? Honestly, that sounds about right. I have a question. Beyonce. And why do you hear Tyler Cruz? What is that? I came to dance. Dance. Dance. I should probably make one though. I played throwbacks one time and a whack ass song came out. I don't even know what it was. I have one, but it's more so just for like the vibe.

You know what I mean? I used that one in the car. I never actually do anything. Yeah, or like when I smoke like they're all like chill songs Same. Why do I feel? It's the same theme of mine. You guys all listen to all those songs. I don't know why. I feel so embarrassed. We have a playlist and playing something. That's why it's like for the moves, like moods before. Yeah, yeah. I'm not like, oh, hold on. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, when you forget, you forget. Actually, one time though, like.

I'm a background music type of girl. I love background music even if I'm eating. Like, I don't, I never thought about, like, Do you have it silent? Yeah, is it silent? Okay, you know what? It's, like, usually the man that's, like, in charge of that. Because I, like, I'm so, like, go with the flow about it.

Has anybody ever played like a crazy ass song? Like Tyo Cruz? Yeah, like Tyo Cruz or maybe Halo by Beyonce. No, nothing about it. No, nothing ever threw me off. Yeah. Wait, Nick, have you ever had it silent? Is this going in? Yeah. Oh my goodness. This is funny. For me. Because I don't know anything. The Freakly playlist is actually for fun. I never... And we're like let's name this playlist fuck and we put kpop in it It was a joke. Have y'all ever fucked up?

The radio? No, dude. He's pulling up with the radio. He got a boombox in his crib? No, no, no. It was in the car, but for some reason that night, his... He's also working so like we did the radio, right? Tell me why literally every song hit every single one felt magical and I was like damn it was probably my What about when they were changing songs and they were like... I still don't remember that shit.

What's up, guys? Be the 30th caller and make sure you win a new car. Lions Roses. Wasn't even iHeartRadio either. It wasn't in California.

radio station it was but it was hitting i was like damn maybe it was a freaky station i don't know damn they should make it radio station don't put that in wait don't put that in hey i get like all that okay but like you got the idea So I get a percentage that part out just put my party i'll just take i'll just take the idea it's okay guys that was a good idea yeah thank you real quick um okay so going back to what we were talking about earlier uh so i also know that you do hella extracurricular

Where did you learn this from? It was telling me that you'd just be doing shit. Yeah, yeah, that's usually what the social media originally found. Or like not funny, but that's kind of cool. You'd be like snowboarding. I know you'd be doing like volunteer work. You'd be going out. Like it seems like your day is like 48 hours. That's what everyone says, but it really isn't. I love sleeping. Something I do take pride in is that. Damn. What do you speak? No, not speak. So Spanish, Vietnamese.

How'd you learn that I mean in kindergarten because one of my friends was like hard of hearing and then my cousin was fluent growing up That's so dope. Oh, that's so cool. Hi, my name is Saf. What? How do I say how many names? Did you do that? Hi. Hi. My name. And then, name is name. Name? You have to spell it, huh? So S and this is S this is a so I go hi, my name is Sam. Oh yours is easy D point up

Have you ever tried rapping in sign language? I have. I've done TikTok. Could I see it? Yes, pull it up. Go look up Sanu and ASL. That's so cool. They do really well. How do you balance social media in school though? Why do you know where a baby knows? That was two years ago. That was me too. Oh! Wait, that's cool. Oh, shit. Oh, damn! Oh, damn, that's fast. Oh my god, baby azalea? Oh, damn. Whoa. That's a long time ago. How long did it take you to land? Probably, I would say an hour.

you like those sign language people at festivals yeah yeah yeah yeah well i actually redid that one recently like like maybe a month ago so then i look a little older oh that's sick no that's really sick no um but no what were you saying oh yeah Because I just feel like you're always Google Calendar is my best friend Calendars on my phone, Agenda is my best friend Literally Oh, that's good Yeah, I use Notes too Can I see your Google

Are you fully online for school? Wow. She used colors and everything. I used colors. No, look at this week. One of the house sets. And there was no... Yeah. Oh, my God. I love that. I remember seeing somebody do it. So is it like for like school? Wait, stop. I have a question.

can you like translate beats or something beats because apparently yeah we were at portola this weekend music was there a translator for the house there was somebody like right next to the DJ doing a bunch of that and I was like oh then they were definitely signing the words not the beats no but there weren't any words it was like you know Like is like in the community when you're part of the hard-of-hearing community like they come up with like their own like, you know slang

to get by but I definitely am not part of it I don't know I don't have my own sign name because like you're given like in the community like the base is like everyone has a sign name I don't have one but like it's given to you by someone who is if i was deaf and i gave you like a name and i like say i thought you were funny and then like um like

That's your signing, like, oh, Nick. Like, Nick, Nick, come here, instead of, like, saying Nick. Oh, like, little Nick thing. That's so cute. Yeah, it's basically Nick Nick. Yes, stuff like that in the community. that's not that sweet um can you pull up the video that one woman that's doing fake There's this viral video like a while back where this lady was at a

like a debate or something like that, or I don't know what it was. And she's like doing fake sign language on the side and everyone was like, what the fuck is she doing? But tell me if it looks like it though. You know what I'm talking about? Does it look like she knows what she's doing? She kind of go crazy though. Standing. Yo, it looks like she knows what she's doing though!

Just seven mug shots. I can't even understand that. Can I be so honest though? It looks fun. It looks fun. It is fun. It's like science. Damn. dude that's fucking hilarious bro no that's so funny wow i'm not good enough to be interpreted like you i cannot be an interpreter for a person but some people would be like they'd be going fast so we'll be talking really fast too yeah yeah like like oh no i cannot i cannot i cannot Do you think um your biggest like accomplishment that you

No, I'm just kidding. Do you think your biggest accomplishment that you've like done so far is learning for or like knowing for languages?

what do you think it's like what do you what do you think it is no um i do medical missions ever since i was in eighth grade we go to cambodia and help uplift those we help uplift those that live in poverty and it's really sad and i became i became a medical assistant so i was able to start doing vitals like so we just did like blood pressure and then glucose levels and then also like because in cambodia they can't speak english and whatever so i worked as an interpreter

into a database and then we did i did that so i did that every summer No, it's not Can't afford you You live so many different lives and you're only 19 that's crazy I was a Girl Scout for 13 years so I did my gold gold award because you know like guys do eagle eagle award Like how good though? Don't ask me that. Okay. Girl Scout, no? Yeah, I can tie nuts.

What? Wait, what? Wait, what else do Girl Scouts do? Oh, so for my gold award, or so my, like, basically, the highest project that a Girl Scout can do is, like, you know. I came up with a bilingual Vietnamese English curriculum for elementary students in Orange County.

dude good for you oh my gosh let me get some i'm gonna give you some i'm gonna give you some what am i doing with my life yeah no literally honestly that's inspiring me right now came up with like worksheets songs for them and gave me that's such a good flex don't ever feel bad about flexing about that no not at all yeah good for you yes but then i live the

Yeah, I like to party to like yeah, like I'm not I'm not a complete seems like you found your balance though. Yeah, or are you still finding it? I'm getting there and I'm really enjoying finding it. Yeah, that's so good. That's really really good. Do you play me? Of course. Damn. That's insane. That is wild. You do it all. My parents love you. What about sports? I think you're pretty athletic, huh? Oh, you'll be running miles. Fucking running.

I really got into pickleball actually. I love pickleball. Pickleball is so fun. How many miles do you run again? I ran last week. I ran 10 miles. Wow. Oh my god. Period. That was crazy. i don't even remember last time i ran like a mile or two i don't even think i've walked 10 miles in like yeah all together i don't think i've done that much that's super impressive no that's super sick well i eat i eat a lot for contests i'm always i'm always

just good so you like running like you enjoy it um with music yeah yeah if without music it's treacherous as fuck like i don't like listening to nothing are you the type of person like can you like lounge throughout the day like have a day or like where you're not doing anything or do you always need I can lounge and do nothing. I would love to. I would love to.

maybe like once a week once a week that's good yeah that's good like a good sunday reset yeah yeah and sometimes after class like i'm a lot of a lot of times like when i have multiple things to do like i'll and i'm scheduling it with like my manager or like my friends

Family and stuff. I kind of just shove it into one day I have a twin sister and an older brother so my twin sister is 19 she's five minutes older and then my older brother is 24 are they all like you like are they all crazy into supporting the world um they're really intelligent people so my brother is in law school he went to ucla for undergrad now he's at um And then my sister is triple majoring

LA oh wow okay your parents did that they must be so proud of you guys okay but like then they're like oh wait but can you also pay for your siblings tuition oh But you can afford it, though. Oh, yeah! You can afford it, though, right? Because you got so much money. No, no, no. Okay, the money maker. No, no, no, no. They'd be like, can you also pay for the cars? You got that much money my dad

My dad escaped the Vietnam War as an orphan, as most Vietnamese immigrants do to America, on a boat. It took 14 days he got to a refugee camp.

and then um he was in office he was like 14 and then he was able to fly over here through the american government and then he came here without parents and then long story short worked his way up Nothing he used to work like like in the slums like doing the newspaper boy stuff How did your parents meet my parents met at a party very is very like something okay wait that's still a cute story yeah in Vietnam no here they met here my mom my mom came here when she was 18 she could

how did your mom come my mom came here because my my grandpa did the same thing my dad did like escaped the war and then once you become a citizen you can sponsor your your spouse, your whatever. So then my grandpa smiled to my mom over.

your dad did that yeah my mom my mom my mom my mom lowkey i i think i think a lot of people think that i get it from my dad but i think i get it from my mom like the well-roundedness she's very witty and very quick with things she learns very quickly and becomes like um because she learned english quickly after she met my dad and then um she went to school and then she also she earned her master's so my brother

She earned her master's, but she can't really speak English in accounting. Oh, wow. That must have been so hard. I'm going to have to start lying. We're looking at you right there sitting on the couch with Cheetos No, no, no. You guys are making this funny. No, go watch us and go to Tim Allen. How about that? That's a good one. Yeah, you can do it while you're listening. You just do it on Spotify. I like to say my parents.

That's really good. They definitely did. Have you ever felt pressured from your parents to accomplish stuff? Or from your siblings to accomplish this great amount of stuff? Or has it always been just you? Because I was a twin I did grow up like competitively like I had to beat her But I never did not in academics at least and back then my parents only cared about academics She was always smarter than me like look always like like

um when we were kids all throughout all 13 years of schooling through kindergarten through 12th grade my parents separated us if we were ever in the same class in the beginning of the year we would ask they would ask like contact the school like these two cannot be in the same Wait, why? Because, like, my dad's hasn't, it was like, oh, like, it's not going to be good for you, like, a problem.

And then, like, by fifth grade, it was our last year of elementary school. And I was like, we were actually put in the same class. And then I was like, please, like, can we stay in the same class? Like, low-key, like, my last year of elementary school. Let's do it. And he was like, no, like, I'm not fair. I was like, no, please. We beg. He's like, okay, you guys can stay in the same class. Stay in the same class.

Elementary school year of my fucking life. She was always number two number one. I was like number two You know like in your kids like all the all the kids in the class knew that she was smarter than me. Yeah so then middle school high school like honestly like i would lie to my teachers too like sometimes like you know like you hear bad reps of teachers like in high school

you don't want that teacher i lie like i would send an email like before the school year it started to be like oh like my twin sister's in this class and like it's not good for my mental health if she's in that class because like i don't want to be competitive but she never even was in the class i just don't oh that's a good finesse that's a good way to do it i had to send in her student id in mine too like yeah it worked didn't even check i did it i only did it twice though so i was

I would do the same. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But my parents are the traditional Vietnamese Asian parents. the whatever. I hated it. Kumon. Oh, I did that. You did Kumon? I did. They would hate you with Kumon. Oh, they fucking hated Kumon. Never did my homework. I literally told the guy I'm trying to get out of this class, so I'm not doing the homework.

I was like, I got homework on top of school homework? You guys are supposed to help me do my homework. Kumon was hell, bro. What is that? It's like, I mean, it was, I don't know if it's everywhere, but I just know it's predominantly an OC where like all the Korean kids would go to Kumon after school and have. shit ton of homework on top of that and they hated it dude they hated it so bad yeah but you were in that yeah i did i didn't know

I cannot see you doing that. But they made me do their own work. Yeah, I was just saying, they don't really, it's not really like a tutor, like they give you more work to do. And I know they did like a whole placement thing to like see where I was at and I was like, I just want you guys.

my homework yeah I can be done damn yeah so then I No, but how does your your parents feel about honestly my dad isn't the biggest supporter of it yeah my dad is not like i think everyone thinks that they are but they're not they're really my dad really isn't my mom the thing is they helped me a lot though because like obviously they were Once it started becoming a job, they were like, okay, we're going to open new accounts.

contracts for like brand deals and my dad reads all of them so that then like I could tell he didn't enjoy doing it like doing it in the sense of like this is my job like one time he came home and complained to me because basically he went out to a restaurant And the waitress or the hostess recognized him for my videos. And he got a free meal off of it. But see, that's a good thing, right? But then he came home as a young man.

All you do is eat online. Why did I get a free meal? That's so stupid. You shouldn't be taking advantage of other people like that. I don't want to be taking advantage of other people like that. And I was like, no, I think they came from respect. And he was like, no, not good.

Do you think they're slowly starting to come around to it like over time slowly? Yeah, because I see that it's it's busy work and they see like the success they see I think it was when I started to see that like people actually came up to me Yeah. What's up, guys? I just want to take a quick second and shout out our sponsors. Without our sponsors, we wouldn't be able to bring you guys this podcast for free on so many different platforms. Thank you, Built Rewards, for sponsoring this podcast.

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to start earning points with your rent payments today thank you bill for sponsoring this podcast other than that guys please enjoy the rest of this episode because i would say like the same thing kind of happened for me too with my parents where um like when we because we've been doing this for like a few years now So like when we first started we would just like meet up at a certain place and time once or twice a week and um i was still in school at the time so

while that was going on um my like my brother i was very comparative to like my family too um my brothers and all them had like their careers going like they already knew what they wanted to do i was just like i'll do business but i don't really know like how how this is gonna like go like you know for me but um once that kept going on uh eventually i kind of wanted to start doing this full time while i was still in college like still go to school but

do this over like working in a warehouse which i used to work at and um they didn't really support that at all like they hated that decision even my brother was like when you're gonna get a real job all that stuff and like i never showed them like how much success it did bring until like probably like a year ago and um once i like

they saw how well it was doing and like how happy it made me i think they slowly started turning their heads and like starting supporting it and it made life so much easier once that happened yeah but it definitely took them a while to like come to realization that like this is like a new gen job for a lot of people

Yeah, they definitely were not used to this lifestyle. I know my dad came from warfare like he's like It's hard for a lot of parents to understand, especially parents that come from like absolutely nothing to like working their way and actually getting like, you know, like kind of what you said. an american job and living the american dream and like reaching all this and having to go through all these feats and i think a lot of them don't understand that it's like

Yes, that was really extremely hard, but what we do, it still took us time to get to where we're at as well, though. You know what I mean? It's not like... uh we woke up one day and we started filming and everything was like good to go you know what i mean like and then we started posting and then uh everything was good no there was a lot of stuff on the back

Um that we would do behind the scenes that parents didn't really get to see you know what I mean? Yeah And um no I can relate to that a lot because my Both my parents did not like me doing this like at all and like it's really sucky and like my mom comes came straight from Mexico like she came when she was 16 And my dad came from like buttfuck like middle of California. I was like like that um and so like it was really hard for them to understand and like when i was going to college

they hated it because i would put everything on like the back burners like my school um i'd be up to like 4am like editing um i'd film with these guys like i do everything and they wouldn't understand they'd be like why are you sacrificing all this time like you should be studying for your test you should be doing

And like when things started going well and I can move out and afford things on my own, they were like, well, okay, I kind of understand now. And they would do the same thing. Like it was never really like a, I'm proud of what you do or I'm happy with what you do, but they'd look at the contracts. They'd help me open up bank.

you know what i mean and i think you need to take the small wins you know definitely a win is a win yeah a win is a win also uh i didn't want to mention like Another big reason why my parents did start supporting me it was like kind of the same thing how they do it out of respect like they saw your daddy know but um my dad and my mom started following like our Suburb Talks account on like Instagram and I started going to like the YouTube comments and then

They used to like tune into it here and there but like they're really busy so like Yeah, they heard some crazy shit. I'm not gonna lie. Oh my god. Nothing bad. But they started supporting me a lot too. Making this a full-time thing. Once they saw that we were helping people too. They saw our stories relate to others. They're really good people so they like that like us collectively are doing good for the world

Like yeah, you started the shit when you were so young. Yeah, I mean we started when we were like a like 1920 and like I said it was it was really hard at the time and I think the one thing is is like Even though like it's really funny to think about because back then I was like buck like one more video like what I made like when we're here like when I could afford stuff when I can put bread on everyone's table like that's all I'm gonna be the happiest

But it's almost like I was the happiest when I was grinding really though you know what i mean because like you woke up i woke up at like 7 a.m after going to bed at like 4 a.m and i was like i gotta get my fucking day started you wake up with the most motivation yeah and positive thoughts in the mind you gotta prove people wrong yeah yeah you gotta prove people wrong you gotta prove to yourself that you're right

every time you start this shit like you're always starting off with hate though there's always people looking down on you and then like later like when you pop off they're like they're trying to eat your ass now like yeah that's a good way to put it no especially like uh friends and family too they're probably gonna be your number one haters or people that are around you going to school with you I love it. I fucking love it.

love love love but yeah no that's that's good to hear but like i said though i don't think you should um like parents just sometimes don't know how to handle a lot of things like we always say like it's their first time being a parent you know what i mean like it's not like they know what they're doing or they got the manual or the fucking bible to follow you know but that's really good

All right, what time is that? Okay, sweet. Do you guys want to talk about that? I feel like I kind of already talked about it. My parents are like... They see the mula coming in, so they're like, okay. Yeah. It's mainly my dad. Yeah, I know. I feel like for all of us, one's our parents. Okay, because at first I didn't tell my parents about it for a long time until I Need to deal with the taxes and so they okay. I have to tell them yeah, and then I did and honestly

My mom is like my best friend with it though. She helped me so much. That's really good. Yeah. I remember you were, like, scared to, like, let him know about it. Because, like, Asian parents. Exactly, yeah. Oh my God, girl, I see you. Girl, I see you. I see you. Yeah, no, but they still aren't like fully, fully supportive, but like they're like.

Or not, like, not supportive. But they're, like, okay with it. They're not supportive. You know what I mean? Yeah. No, I feel you. Yeah, my parents definitely slowly came around to it once they saw, like, how good it was doing. So, happy now. Have y'all gotten recognized by people, like, when you...

really she's eating it up my mom eats it up my mom eats it the fuck up and i see it and she tries to hide it but i can see like her smiling and i'm like girl she tries to hide it yeah that's my daughter that's my daughter like yes girl you dude my dad though was so oblivious guys so oblivious like there was this one time we went to a restaurant right and um the waitress that was like taking our order she was actually very professional like i had no idea she recognized me or knew who i was

they're so professional and then like as we're walking out she like pulls me aside she's like actually i just really wanted a picture with you i was like oh my god i would have never guessed you knew who i was like that's crazy you have to so professional and like my dad saw that whatever And then, like, as I walked away, he was like, oh, he was like, oh, that's your friend? Like, I would have never guessed. And I was like, bro, like, this man does not know anything.

my dad's like that too yeah like he genuinely thinks everyone's my friend i'm like no like no literally and i'm like my dad knows what i do so it's like he didn't even make the connection and then like even my grandma so she was like oh did she did she think you were pretty like why should she take a picture with you and i was like you know what she also did think you were pretty yeah maybe i don't know but she was

I feel like all dads be working slow like that. Yeah, they be slow. My dad loves it when I get recognized. It's fucking funny, dude. Really? What's his reaction? Like, yeah, he's just a fucking goofball, bro. Like, he'll come over, like, after all, like, take a picture and say what's up, and he'll just come over and like... fucking slap my back or pat me on the back and be like that's really cool i'm like thanks man like

Appreciate you. But remember, I told you that one story, though, about, like, when we first started, like, coming up and, like, I had told them that I didn't want to go to school anymore, but I want to pursue this. My mom was the one who was like, oh, no, you can't be doing that. But my dad didn't say a word. And then she was like.

come over here and like tell him like he can't be doing this like he needs to focus on scoring my dad like sits down at the dinner table with like a plate of food and he's like you know i wish i followed my dreams i was like thank you our mom lost her that's kind of how like my family dynamic was too because my mom was like you're staying in school yeah and this and like which i did but my dad was kind of like

do whatever you want it was so funny i feel like a lot of dads are like that because my dad's that way too he's like just follow your dreams yeah yeah yeah i think also it's different when uh Depending on like if you're the daughter or the son and who the parent is looking after you think so I feel like our moms are always gonna look up Look after us more than our dads and your guys's dads are like heart in a harsher way your dads are always gonna look

like be harsher with you than your moms will but i feel like my dad is like that with all of us with all my siblings too because um he just like never got to follow what he really wanted to do he was like kind of forced into his job by his parents my dad too yeah my mom is the one who tells me And like I tell her I will. My parents are the least strict on me mainly because I think my siblings are fulfilling what they want already.

so because you know they're in school and whatever so it's like i go to community college and i go to community college and like at first they were like the fuck are you doing community college second of all then i got a job you know what? You look really happy doing it. Like, we're just going to let you do it. You know, as long as you stay in school. So right now I'm riding the USC wave, but we'll see, you know, maybe.

You know, I'm gonna be Sounded like you could afford UFC like ten times over the way you're talking That's it, that's a great trade-off does that Nick with his tuition technically speaking i can go to usc now if you pay for my tuition right because you have Oh, it's a deal. That looks like a deal right there. It's on camera too. Oh my God. Alex, type up the contract. Give me the contract. Give me the contract, baby. Alex.

i'm having fun yeah no so i will say you're one of my favorite guests like you bring like this light heart energy Aww, you're so cute in the other line. Thank you. Dandelion too? She's a mammoth. She's such a dandelion. You know, what flowers do we give off, actually? Dandelions have flowers? That's a great question. A dandelion has a million wishes on it. The minute you blow a rose.

Rose. Yeah, because you're pretty on the outside, but when people get close to you and actually care for you, you poke her. We're getting metaphorical now. But we talked about how actually her inside. She's a fake rose. What? She's a plastic rose. Yeah. No, we talked about. Beauty lasts forever? We talked about how on the inside, she's actually super sweet.

she is that's why it's a rose because you just have to get through all the thorns first yeah yeah yeah they're really sharp and like the beauties past the thorns and then there's like aphids crawling all over like the outside but like once you go to the inside though yeah yeah It's dope, it's dope. Sick flower. Like a sunflower. Daisy. Or sunflower. I was going to say Devin's more of a sunflower. Devin's a sunflower. Devin has a million wishes. And I just feel like you're wishful thinking.

Are you very wishful? That's so sweet. Thank you. Wait, what did you get? A daisy? A dandelion. Oh, dandelion. My bad. Yeah, the one with a million wishes on it. feel you know what you know we always say like earthy And you're a dingleberry. Joke's on you. That's my favorite kind of berry. Dingleberries. What do you think Sean is? Huh? What do you think, Sean? Sean's a doctor. Is it what? Bro, he's probably the weed you need to pluck.

Honestly. You know what Charm reminds me of? It reminds me of that little, I don't know, what is it called? That little yellow flower that grows out? Part of the weeds sometimes? That's a dandelion. No, it's yellow. It's a yellow, like, little flower that comes out sometimes. That's a dandelion. I thought a dandelion was a thing you wanted to do. That's a dandelion before you blow on it.

Oh, it blooms? It blooms? You think it grows fuzzy? I thought that was the whole flower No, it's that yellow little flower so it's like that before and then it turns white like that when you and then that's when you can make a wish on it it starts yellow and ends No way. Wait, it starts yellow? How did you guys not know that? I have never known that. No, that actually makes me kind of mad. I'm not glad. You didn't know that? Wait, so why are we calling her this? Because...

She says, I have like wishful, like whimsical. Yeah, that's pretty good. I'd say that that's pretty good. Yeah. Thank you. When you're a kid, you blow that shit, you make a wish. wishes that wow i never sean's like a lily this is so cynthia like that ass I low-key think Devin's a hibiscus flower He could be a hibiscus. I'm getting that tatted. Nick can be a son for an hour. It's a sign. Do you have it on you? What? Oh, I see that. That's very Devin. I have tattoos, or I have tulips.

I don't know. I feel like we can pick a different one. You know what? Devin can be a rose too sometimes. Devin reminds me of a... He just don't understand. Like lavender. He looks like he would have a rose in his mouth dancing. I could see him being a lavender. Right? He does. Yeah, that fits him. Look up lavender flower. Guys, I have one for Alex. Alex. Oh. It reminds me of Devin. No? Yeah. Lavender.

What am I, Marie? Tulip. Tulip, okay. Alex? That is my mother's kind of. Yeah. That's Alex. Yeah, I can see that. It's the hair. It, like, looks like him. Wait, what are we giving Nick? probably like a sunflower dark rose or something like that dark rose yeah i think that's a good one look up like super super original hydrangea Orchid? That's what I'm getting tied in. I feel like I'm like cactus. You know what I mean? I was gonna say cactus flower. Or like a succulent.

a succulent yeah no not that succulent wait i have one i think um a dahlia Oh, thank you, Madu. Yeah. Appreciate that. Got a lot of layers. you do got a lot of layers that you don't show like in a letter what does that mean i don't know thank you real quick wait is this your first year of college

Second second year college. Yeah, has it been hard to make friends for you in college? I go to community college So I don't want to make friends there. No. Yeah. Wait, so you don't want to make friends at community college. I have my high school friends Yeah, and I've got this ties into a question we have Let me pull it up real quick. Great transition. No, because we, Loki kind of talked about this. And like you and me, we went.

through similar situations after high school which was kind of crazy yeah but yeah okay this question is which is like you guys already know like she went through it's like similar shit Which got me so mad. I was like, damn. We only went through that shit. Anyways. Oh, my God. Twin-O. Twin-O. Literally. Okay. I see you. Girl, I see you. I see you. What is this for?

Are you okay? Are you okay? I don't know. Okay, you guys. Lock in. Lock in, everybody. So we can eat. Okay. Maintaining friendships post high school. How does one go? Sorry, sorry, sorry. Oh, no, it's okay, it's okay. Good, good, good. I don't know what you just said. I was like, what is she talking about? So he's like. I said never mind. I don't know. I'm confused too. Okay. Sorry. Keep going. Wait, what's similar situation? Which is like, you know how like my first.

x like the whole thing with my friend whatever the fuck she went through something similar oh okay yeah i'm in there i'm in there i'm in there okay maintaining friendships post high school how does one go about it since post high school friendships tend to get this

can you repeat that you're still friends with your high school all of them yeah well well not not not not all of the people in high school hell no yeah not the ones that did you dirty yeah So do you have any advice on people that want to maintain like friendship?

school well the thing that I had it easy because none of my friends friends moved out of state well only one and she went to Arizona and everyone else in the friend group there's like what 15 of us we all stayed in California local very local no one is even dorming like it was just like we just happened to be lucky with that got you yeah

That's literally you guys. Everybody was forced to stay home. I mean, not all of us went to the same high school, but some of us went to local districts, and we still live in the same relative area. So do you see them every so often? i saw them yesterday and then i'll probably see them tomorrow Okay, yeah, you suck you do so many things throughout the day. I don't get it. It's insane in LA on a stream and I'm like, how'd you? I know a lot of people tell me like

I just spawned out of nowhere again. You know, that is so true because one trip to LA for us, we come back at 5 a.m. Yeah, we're done. And we're done for like the month. This girl's just speeding through traffic like that. I expect that though. It is impressive.

so I guess like we don't really got an answer to that except the fact that like it was easier for us just because we all kind of did stay a little local nobody wanted like out of state really did any of our friends go out of state oh we did for a semester

Oh, okay. Owen did. Luke didn't came back for a semester. The only one that actually went would be like David Georges. Wyatt just went out. But all of our other friends. Yeah. But David Georges is the only one I really keep up with that went out of state.

But like I mean for him like maintaining like friendships with him i feel like it's a little different because i've known him since like kindergarten you know we grew up together and then he moved when we were like what fresh sophomores i think in high school and also when he comes here and he comes here and he stays with me um and

Even like when he's away though, texting, calling. Really? You guys still communicate here and there? He's coming out for my birthday. You know what's so interesting with him though? I've known him for a long time too, literally since elementary school.

i don't need to communicate with that man like we barely do i feel like that's what happens when people have their own lives yeah but the thing is when he comes back it feels like there's no awkwardness at all with that man so yeah i love david i feel like i love david friends will stay in contact with you know yes I agree. So I feel like maintaining friendships at their high school, it really should be with people that like is not.

you know yes that's a really good way to put it yeah i'm a big fan of low maintenance friendships yes yeah me too very big fan of them yes this guy and it really yeah it really just goes to show like the value that you have for each other without even having to see each other so every so often yeah it really shows true value and i've had a couple friends that like say like

they need like constant some friends not all of my friends but like some friends that i used to have would need like constant like i don't know something to maintain that friendship but i'm like i like the ones where i like i could see you like once a month and it's chilling i heard this one thing that's like um like the friends who you don't hug tend to like Yeah, because like you don't cross any boundaries.

The friend that you don't have any photos with is like that too. You're less likely to cross boundaries. Yeah, kind of. Wait, the friend that you don't hug? Yeah, or like the friend you don't have pictures with, like you're less likely to break boundaries with. Why? Because it's surface level. Oh, so then it's not a good friend. Yeah, but it is... so you're saying you prefer that versus is that what that means okay not like don't hug but like the one you know what i mean

Because we always have a good time. Yeah. We always have a good time. We're not going to lose a friend that you're on the surface level with. We have pictures together like on the toilet, not like actual like. Yeah. Yeah. Because those friends are like the picture taking friends. Yes. I don't know. Yeah. You don't have to go out and do something the floor of the bathroom floor just like yeah yeah talking about the same thing yes we are I think that's what Cynthia means yes

He's saying how, oh, you don't hug him because everything's surface level. That's what you just said. That's what she's talking about. Okay, to be fair, to be fair, girl friendships are much more complex than male. So much more. Yes. No, no, no. Beg on your knees and I'll still look at the sky. I really think we could put this up for debate but I really think like

our friendships are more complex and like deeper. Yes, girls' friendships. It's a psychological thing. Wait, this is just a fact. Yeah. It is. What are you talking about? No, no, no, I don't because I don't think that they're like deep. I think that... You know what, let me figure out how- What do you think? What do you think? What do you think? What do you think? We said- No, no, no. No, because- I think all our- Complex. Complex. But like- Complex and sometimes- I'll give you complex.

But I won't give you deeper because okay. Yeah, we're saying complex. Oh, yeah, because but you guys could be friends with besties one day and the next day one of you doesn't say good morning and now you guys aren't friends

That's not true. Yes, it is. Yes, it is. Yes, it is, bro. I never, I barely text all my girlfriends. That's between a boy and a girl. That's not between girl and girl. I don't text Maru good morning. No, no, no. I'm not saying that's a situation with every girl, but I'm saying that. There has been situations. I've known girls who have like been besties and then one night or maybe there's a couple of nights where, oh, she kind of looked at me weird.

Oh, why is it? Why? Why didn't she say this? Why did she hug me? Oh, why is she? And I'm like, y'all were just best yesterday. Explain it to you. You're dropping loot. You're dropping loot, dude. You're dropping loot. Let me explain it to you. Okay, go ahead, Cynthia. How am I doing a stage? How am I doing a stage right now? So you're saying right What am I saying? Put words in my mouth right now. Go ahead. Okay.

I'm saying like the girls who you hug, you're saying like the girls who you're closest to, if they don't do one thing as to like say good morning to, or like that's an example, but like something small like that. Or like not hug her at one time. You guys will think into it way more than a guy would. That's what I'm saying. But more complex. Complex. That's why I agree with you guys. I said not deep though. Let me finish what I'm fucking saying. Let her talk. Por favor.

okay those are the friendships that's like less more likely to break boundaries because there are so fragile boundaries to break on a daily basis I'm in that wait can I be honest I don't agree with that part I don't think girls are like because that's meaning that like we're like all of us are kind of like high maintenance you know yeah

Oh, but you're a crazy overthinker. That's what I'm saying. I am an overthinker. Yes, but like with everybody, not just my girl friendships. Yeah, that's true. You know what I mean? But at the same time, it's like I'm very like, what is it? Like reasonable with shit like that.

You guys have seen, like, I've been friends with people that, like, have given me signs that actually, like, break it off. But, like, I give them the benefit of the doubt. But it's like, like, you got to show me something crazy for me to have to drop you. I'll give you the outlier, but I'm saying most girls are not like you. Okay, the girlfriends I surround myself with except the- no friends that like i'm not friends with anymore i feel like Yeah, I'm not. By complex, we don't mean high ma-

I'm confused now. I'm really confused. Okay. Okay. Let me explain. Let me explain. Let me explain. Complex is different than hymenae. Yes. Okay. Let me explain. So by complex, I meant like, by complex, I meant like, we kind of know more about each other's lives because I think, okay. You guys can argue with me, but I think you guys don't really talk about your emotions. the shit you're really going through but like when us girls when we bond we bond like crazy it's girl talk

Girls talk is different. That's what gets you guys in trouble with each other. When guys drop guys, if guys are dropping guys, it's over a girl. Period. It's usually over a girl. That's so valid. And also boy talk, I feel like... Sports. Fucking girls. Girls drop guys not only over boys, but literally over so many things. The recipe for male friendship. Let's see this. Let's see this. The recipe for a female friendship.

Female friendships thrive on intimacy and emotional connection. We as females want to talk about feelings, want to experience physical touch, want direct and dependent face to face contact. We want to feel emotionally connected and supported. The recipe for a male friendship. Friendships between males tend to be more transactional.

Men tend to value friendships that are more shared activity based. Playing basketball, poker, golf. It's like I literally just said that. Yeah, I literally said that. Men do not feel the desire or need. to discuss every intimate detail and change in their life with a male friend. They also do not feel the need to... Constantly stay in touch as men can go for long periods months or even years without having contact with a male friend But still consider that person a close friend. Valid

I could sit in silence with these dudes. That's what I'm trying to say. I cannot see them for months and we can grab a beer and talk and we don't even talk about like anything crazy. We can though and I'll still love them. I guess there's no just black and white because like to me. There is.

She's great. No, I'm just kidding. Because to me, it's like complex does not equal high maintenance. She was correct, though. She was. She was. She was. You are correct. You are correct. Yeah, you're on that show. I see you, girl. I see you, girl. I see you. Thank you so much. We should have you on more often. I see you. I see you.

I see you, Sean. I see you. I see you, girl. I see you, girl. Oh, is it like this? Yeah, like this. Did you guys do that TikTok together? Oh, no, we did a feeding one. But we're gonna do one later I see you. I think cuz if you're a girl you want to get intimate and like with someone that you're really close with you know you want maybe like get some advice into problems or talk about things that are rough i feel like with the guy that might be what you're doing alone so when you go see your

Yeah. Yeah. I could see that. Yeah. Like when you, if I go play poker, I'm not sitting there talking about, I guess like I might've come off. like I guess people can by like watching what I said they might think that I'm like saying wrong and one is one is bad and one is right when is right yeah but no wrong or right there's no wrong or right i'm not saying like that's the bad way to go about it with friendships i mean like that's still so fun to y'all you know yeah

I just think ours is more complex. You didn't have more fun our way? Remember when you guys came and played poker? I had fun too but it's like I like my girls with me too like you guys will never understand like hang out together like that shit is so far away from that y'all can have that one no like you need to like understand being a girl in the bathroom when you're drunk at the bar dude at the bars that shit is so fucking fucking

The 18 plus bar. That's a good one. That's a good one. I was going to say something, but I can't. Talking about shitty haircuts. Talking about shitty haircuts. Trying to get into a fight. Get behind your friend while you're trying to start a fight. Yeah. Throwing water into the stalls.

See, that's some shit I do not want to experience. I don't want to experience it either. It's his fault. Dude, it's a stupid haircut. You want me to just not say anything? Like, I'm sure us three girls, we have experience, like, helping out a girl with, like... a situation she's going through in the restroom and you're like you know like girl yeah like girl's girl go ahead yeah i love that shit hey you should go like check out this barber bro that would be helpful yeah I'm like

or like when we need a tampon or a pad and somebody's there to help it's so unspoken you guys don't understand the drunk bro talk What do you guys talk about? You pat each other on the butt while you pee outside. You pat each other on the butt while you guys are peeing. Or you pee together. Honestly, that's when we get the deepest. The piss dog. Do you hold hands and piss together? No, we'll just be next to each other. They're gonna piss at the bar and then they push you into the urinal.

Has that ever happened to you? No. I'm pretty sure. I think it might have been Owen or somebody else. So we were in. We ever been bullied in school Yeah, I used to get kneed in the nuts when I was in a third grade. Why? I don't know. Just dude always say good morning to me and kneed me in the nuts. Oh my god. Jonathan Kim. i went to an all korean school it was not an all korean it was all korean Except me? It's all Austin and Mason.

And Cornido. And Cade Caffery. Damn. And David Jordan. Damn. Literally all your friends. What are you doing? Yeah, I was friends with all of them because we were all... different races. So like Asian small dick guy decided to knee you in the nuts? No, but you were also our friend. I was, I was. Wait, I remember Jonathan. I was like a jack of all trades, you know what I mean? I could fit in with everyone. You are the jack of all trades. Thank you. You're a mastermind.

oh i will say one of the coolest things i think i had ever seen though was when we did that 20v1 with all the girls oh yeah and they all became friends can i be so honest i had like a lot of fomo like yes i wanted to be with them That was one of the, and I don't think, I don't think that can happen if you put 20 dudes in a room. I think they might all try to. Lucky might have been a fight. I think like 20 random dudes. Okay, look, when I've done like the blind dating one.

like for a David Alvarez video, we all get along in the background. That is true. But I think that is rare with like... 5 to 20 random dudes because these are 520 random girls like they weren't really very like a lot of them range like some had a lot of followers some had like very little followers so i think that was like extremely rare yeah and they were all like helping each other out there was this one girl that got like kind of too drunk and like all the girls will help you out

If you went into that room, you would have thought they knew each other for years. Yes. Most definitely. That's cool. Best girlhood for you. Yeah, girlhood right there. Dudes are pretty. Why do you guys just suddenly want to fight each other for no reason? None of us are like that. People would like to fight us. I beg to differ. Oh, well.

you think we want to fight each other i know you guys but like just strange like obviously like guys who weren't straight who were just like 20 stranger dudes in a room you guys are not hooking up with like like like like us girls You know y'all probably want to fight pick a fight no No, no, no, no not personally just like guys and dudes in general fucking weird

That's the only answer. If you're one of those dudes out there, you're so fucking weird, man. Yeah, like, okay, more often than not, when we're going out, it's like dudes getting in fights, not like girls getting all the time. Says Mrs., can a bitch say excuse me? Yeah, but it's like but it's like it was valid She didn't say excuse me. Yeah, I'm not gonna pick a fight there.

You know I'm not like Um, do we his birthday tomorrow did you uh do we even answer your question well there was no question to really answer because we don't really have friends that like went away yeah neither did i yeah so we all we're lucky people yeah i guess if your question you meant like locals like even if like after high school you guys are still local I think just like communication here and there, you know?

you got to make time to see them that's the thing like a lot of people think like and i think a lot of people get in their heads where it's like why aren't they making time to see me but you have to put yourself in like your own shoes and like take accountability where it's like you got to also make time for Sometimes they're oblivious I think a lot of people genuinely are oblivious to a lot of things

yes but also like one thing that i understood after high school is that not everybody maintains relationships like you do so you gotta understand some people like might not need that constant communication to be still be friends you're still gonna consider your friend you know what i mean um yeah you'll learn though as you go i like that one yeah that was a good one one more question what time we on I got one more. Are you still in school? Communication is key for everything. 538.

Possibly. We'll see. Did the air conditioning turn off? It might have. If you were stranded on an island and you had to take three people at this table with... You can do it honest. Wait, no, no, no. Wait, one, two, three, four, five. We're throwing Sage in there. Three. Okay, yeah, we'll throw Sage. You might Sage, right? We'll throw Alex. We'll throw Alex. We'll throw Alex. Oh, yeah. Including Alex. And why? And you're stranded. I'm picking only three. Yeah. Whatever reason.

Okay, Maru and Cynthia, and then I get to pick one guy. Okay, one girl. You can only take one girl. And I have to take two guys? You can't pick the girls. I can't pick the girls. No, you have to take three guys. Do yours first, then we'll warp the rules. Okay, what the fuck was girl head then? What the fuck? Okay, let's do four. No, no, no, we'll do three. You only take one of them. You take the girls, you can take one of them. One more person. No, I think I'm going to take Nick.

Yeah, valid, valid. Just wait till you hear about all the... My best friend is allergic to fish and And when we were kids, she was allergic to more. She was allergic to eggs. seafood like all of it oh damn and she was my she's literally still my best friend to this day so like

You've been living with it. What do you mean you've been living with it? Hey, I protect it. We make sacrifices. No, you don't. This motherfucker tries to open up a bag of pistachios anytime he gets. And we don't. I love pistachios. Why are you doing it in a closet? closed room with me in it you're gonna get nut particles everywhere literally me threatening you with peanut butter yeah and this motherfucker points peanut butter at me whenever she's mad at me

No. Your nuts can kill you. Literally. He's had some... sometimes i've had some close encounters sean i see me when was the last time you had a maybe not nick but like i don't know maybe nick has skill though like even me he may lost in the evolution in darwin's theory of evolution in that game but like Maybe he got the skill. What's she yapping about? darwin's theory adaptation

You're saying that he can overcome that. You're saying that I'm the next step in evolution. I definitely lost in that already because you didn't get the adaptation to eat all these little things. But maybe you have the actual survival skills. You know, you just look like me. oh like are you saying like he makes up for another way yeah he probably does you look like you do I'll bring the freaky playlist

Yeah. I'll bring mine. Fuck. Like, why are y'all bringing the freaky playlist? We can keep that one in, but the other one, the actual conversation about it. Yeah, I'll take it. I'll take it. Wait, because the entire internet knows I got a freaking playlist. so I don't think there's anything wrong with that I mean shit you got K-pop in there like yeah I got K-pop in there like leave me alone

There's, yeah. No, it's more for shits and giggles. Mine's for shits and giggles too. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Everyone's, yeah, mine's, especially because it's public. Mine's public. Yeah, yours is public. Yeah, okay. No, it's totally fine. Okay, let's stop talking about the freaking playlist. Okay, moving on. You guys want to ask one more question?

i think we already touched on mine earlier about like success and everything because kind of oh damn we ain't even talking about relationships or boyfriend You want to talk about it? No, I love you guys for not talking about it. Everyone has asked me about it. Every single person has asked me about it. How do you feel about that? Like I just answered like.

the same answer same question and then you're just like all right well yeah one word answer is something like that and then it's like next question please yep next question like you want to be out We used to talk about like relationship and that kind of stuff a lot before. Now we kind of strayed away from it, which I kind of like it better. It gets a little repetitive. Yeah, it does. It definitely does. Same themes always pop up when you talk.

I never thought about very intertwined yeah I feel like I'd be the same way if I was like going around doing like podcasts or like collabs and I was asking about the same person like he's like Jason's like famous yeah

that makes sense though yeah yeah but we're we're just friends like we're really good friends he got my back i got his but that's all i gotta say that's what i say yeah i like that no yeah really good i don't know what it is about social media like they cannot fathom to like a guy and a girl Oh my god, Mara, that's so real. Like, why you shit with everyone at the table? No, literally, I think I would shit with, like, everybody here. Except Alex.

Oh, you better step it up, Alex. Also, because he just joined the team, I'm telling you, like, maybe in a month, they'll see me and Alex together, like, just walking next to each other, and they'll shoot me and him. Like, for real, like, why am I, like, shit with everyone? Honestly, I feel like this podcast is sort of like done so. Progress on changing that narrative. I saw people with comments and stuff about Cynthia and her boyfriend. And people were like, oh, how come it's not Devin?

yeah a lot of people like back it up which is super sick yeah i noticed that best thing ever is just when we have like when you have you guys like backing us up in like any comment i think it's so fucking sick i love it i'm like shit i don't gotta do anything yeah you guys got my back No, I think it's so sick. It's so sweet. If you guys don't want to ask one of your questions, then we can go ahead and wrap it up. You, you two. Mine was...

I can ask mine. Do you remember mine? Yeah. Okay, like when you first develop a crush, like what do you notice yourself doing? When I first developed a crush, I didn't realize... like i like like like it was it's off it's i never have intentions with people unless it's like hinge or like

what's other tinder hinge yeah and like and you see a guy at a bar at the club and like you're already making eye contact that's like first intention that's like you already there's already intention there i like it when there was never intention it just kind of happened friends to lovers kind of yeah I like that yeah like like like you like we were just talking about random shit and then randomly like we just started liking each other like

like natural connection yeah natural connection like i don't fuck with like oh intention like oh i see a pretty girl at a bar like i'm gonna talk to her and try to like get her like no like i don't like you find that a little superficial is that why too much intention i don't like Yeah, too straight up. Wait, why is that? Why is that? Like, that's just not your thing. It's not my thing. It's not bad. It's not bad at all. Hinge is amazing. I know. I know Hinge is amazing. I got so many.

It's probably not me. Really cute guy. We're at a restaurant comes up to you and he's like, wow, I think you're really, really pretty. And you guys start talking and he's like, oh, can I get your number? You're saying like off rip just because he approached you. He's off the table. Really? You're such a liar. No way. Are you serious? I never got an approach like that before. Well, close your eyes and envision it. That's never happened before. That's hard to believe. Nobody has an approach.

Well, it happened to be at the coffee house, but he was, like, 30. I will say, can I just say, you do look really young. Maybe that could be it. Yes. Like, even for your age, like, you could pass as a high schooler. But, like, I think, hey, but in a few years, it's a pleasure. And you're still very beautiful. Thank you. you guys are so handsome shut up What did you just say? No, I have never been approached like that. No, ever. Not even at a restaurant.

this is some creepy guy like who and i guys at at the coffee bar like at the cafe this literally happened two days ago um i was like literally getting into my car and he was like tapping on the window like oh that's not weird and then i was like

How was your day? And I was like, oh, no. Was he old? Dude, he looked like he was 27. Yeah, that's crazy. This guy doesn't count. No, no, no. You know what I said? You know what I said? I said I was underage. I was like, oh, I'm sorry. I'm 16. Because, you know.

And he was like, oh, really? And I was like, so you don't want to hang out? I was like, I brought my window up and I left. I was like, oh, hell no, no. Dude, that literally happens to me because like, I'm like, so you knew that I was underage or something like, obviously I'm not, but like, I make it key. Yeah. I don't think you'd say no if it was a cute guy approaching him. Oh, a cute guy?

I never had like the opportunity to like really be in a sea of cute men. I swear to God you guys won't take me out bitch I never go out I only go out to like raves like everyone ma'am you forget you're not 21 but hey as soon as you're 21 honestly I will say no like Also because you're going to community college like I feel like I didn't really feel like i had so many options because like i said i went to a community college and everyone's either like 15 and doing like continuation school or like

62, trying to support their family. But when I hit 21, it felt like the gates opened. This is what is out there? You know, that's so valid. Yeah, you're like, oh my god, like, there's not the same five people that I see at every house party, you know what I mean? Yeah. It's like Ariel going on.

Wow. Yeah. No, exactly. And then it's like you go to different locations around the state or like around the county. It's like, oh, there's even more different types of people out there. Even more to celebrate for my 21st. You guys have to be there. No, I'm going to be, aren't I going to be 30? you can chaperone you can chaperone

As long as we're not going to Newport for your 21st. Yeah, you'll be there and you'll be there. Yeah, as long as it's not a Newport for your 21st. Have you thought about, like, what you want to do for your 21st? No, because it's since, like, two years. But, like, everyone always thinks about their 21st. When's your birthday? I know. What? My birthday is for... Oh yeah, you did say that. We're 20. So like... It's going to be his favorite holiday. My favorite day. For two reasons now. We're 20.

For a 20 party. I know. I want to do a 420 party. Okay, so it's not like super late in the year. It's like the beginning. She's going to go to Newport. What about our raves? You don't like the selection of people at raves?

Everyone's like kind of gone. Okay. No. Yeah. Agreed. Yeah. Zombies. It's like, yeah, you can't even be like, I know the very thing where like, you just like meet a great day. Don't even get their name and just hang out with them for like an hour. Like see, that's some shit. I can. At least now. At least now. I had a rave at one time in my life. One time. Really? How was it? How was the experience? Mid. So mid. Mid?

I feel like it would just be awkward if I just met somebody and even started dancing with them for a few dollars. I kind of just want to have fun with my friends, you know?

yeah right yeah it's not some people go to raise and just in search of a rape thing yeah i think that's crazy too yeah gotta worry about those sides of people 100% whoa wait let's talk about that because like you literally talked about that at the beach no guys you know oh wait you wanna you wanna set up your little girl with her no no I didn't but like my mom she like um she watches our podcast

Or like, oh no, she watches my social video. No way. So she's awesome. Hi, mommy. Hi, mommy. But like. Hold on, hold on, hold on. I just got. Did I just get off the shot? Did you get that? That's so close. Wait, is it still recording? No, it goes right there in the front Oh, that's gonna end up being a foul. No, no, no, bro. I got him plugged. Look, look, look. Sean's holding it. No, no, no. Below. You see the court? You see the court? Court? Honestly.

Wait hit enter no on me on the on the on the on the pad on this circular pack And then soft button. And then do the manual focus, Alex, where you spin the lens to make sure. And then you can take a look at it. Alright, so just hit the record button. Is this right? You gotta do this, Alex. You have to spin this first. Did you spin it? Is it good? Okay, then just hit the red button.

What were you saying? No, yeah. So she saw the video I made with Sa and she was like, oh my God, she's so cute. And she was looking at her videos and she's like, dude, I think Sa is so cute. We should set it up with, I don't want to say my little brother's name, but with my little brother. And I was like, you know what? together um hold on 21 can I ask you a question doesn't make you uncomfortable people try to set you up

No. Okay. Good. I just want to make sure. Because you would have made a pair at the beach if you weren't comfortable. I think they would be really cute. I think they would look good together. Yeah. Second question. I'll show you a picture. Don't do that. Second question. Do you think it'd be like...

What if they were like beefing? You know what I mean? Like they do get together and they date or whatever and like maybe they don't work out or like maybe they're beefing or something like that and then she comes to you about it. like i don't know just ask you for advice can i be honest i've always been on the girl wait so like basically when i come to you yeah like when i come to you are gonna are you gonna come at me like

I'm your brother's girlfriend or I'm your friend? What POV? What did she just dump it on? You're my friend. What did she just dump it on? I'm like, dude, he just like... doesn't appreciate me it's just such a shitty person and like i'd be i'd be listening i'll be listening crazy no for real if you're noel if you're watching this i don't ever want that to happen no but um yeah even like after like my brothers would break up with their girlfriends i'd be falling

okay i don't follow she's a girl's mother's a girl's girl but we knew that i feel like if it didn't end with them like doing some fucked up shit like i don't need to have like you know i've unfollowed all of my sister's ex-boyfriends i think by now i unfollow them because it's like i don't really see them anymore but okay that makes sense i could also see a little brother dating her though i think you guys would just look cute

Oh my goodness. Is he tall too? He got a lot taller. Oh, he's tall? I don't know about tall though. Tall, tan, and handsome. He's like on the Tanner side. He's like a tan Korean. Oh, a tan? A tan Korean? And handsome? Anyways, you guys. if this happens it would be crazy i'd be rooting for him Well, guys, thank you guys so much for watching another episode of Sober Talks. Everyone, please, thanks, Saf, for coming through.

for this podcast. Thank you for having me. I had an amazing time on the number one podcast. Yeah, tell them the youngest podcast too, right? I love you ancients, but they're ancients. You know, they're just very ancient. I love the ancients. Don't worry. You said that only for us, right? Not the other one.

Did you say this to the other ones too? I wasn't even going to be on supper. I wasn't going to be here when I was on theirs. I didn't even know I was going to be on theirs. I didn't even refer to them. So did you tell them they were the number one podcast? No. Did you say it on their podcast?

Swear. I swear on my fucking mom's mom. Okay. You know what? It's okay. It's okay. It's okay. It's okay. But I will be getting a call from Vip after he fucking sees this fucking episode. Vip, you better not. He will. He's going to call you and just be like, you want to go to Seaside? Guys, thanks so much for watching. I am Nick Rhetta. And we'll catch you guys next time Cheers and peace out y'all Oh! Oh! Knuckles everywhere! I do. Cheers.