M Hey there everybody, it's your old friend Josh And for this week's s y s k Seles, I've chosen the episode on Yo Yo's, which is great. It's like a trip around the world on the end of a string that draws you right back home at the end, which makes it great. So please enjoy. Welcome to Stuff you should know from House Stuff Works dot com. Hey, welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Carr. There's Charles W. Chuck Bryant. That's me, same as ever, scratching the old back. Yeah,
just got a little itch there. You ever use one of those little dealies, the little creepy hand, the little monkey pok on the end of the stick I have before. Um, I don't like to do that. It hurts. Yeah, I guess you could call it. It's a painful sensation. I get up against the wall sometimes and do the blue the bear. That'll do sometimes too, But it's weird, like I only have backaches in about the same place, and that would be on my left shoulder blade on the
western side of it, depending on which direction I'm facing. Curiously, this is going to be the most interesting part of this show that is not a treat Chuck Man, So Chuck, Yes, this is going to be a great one. Okay. I have a feeling this canna be one of those ones where it's like, wow, that turned out to be really good. It's physics heavy out the Yeah, everyone loves that. But the fact is, when we finished this, you're gonna know how yo yo works. This is probably the most truly titled,
truest titled episode well we've ever done. Do you think yep? I don't know. All right, well we'll find out. I think it should be called Physics through the Eye of a yo yo. So listen, have you ever seen the movie Harlem Nights? Uh parts dude? That is go back and watch it again, like, oh, you're crazy. It's one of the best movies ever. Eddie Murphy, Red Fox, Richard Pryor, and like everybody else in it too. I think Bernie Max in there terrible script. I don't think the script
is terrible. I thought it was great. Um. There's one thing about that movie that bugged me to know it. It's setting like the twenties, right, and throughout the movie, Eddie Murphy uses the word yo yo was obviously a modern term, and it just sticks out like a sore thumb. Every time he does it drives me crazy, Like it drives me crazy that he did. It drives me crazy that the director wasn't like, you can't say yo. This
is like nineteen twenties New York. Yo wasn't around. I don't know that they were going for a historical accuracy in that one. They were wearing spats, so um Jerry like that one. So I went back to the little digging Chuck and it turns out that yo was in fact around in the nineteen twenties. But Eddie Murphy was
still wrong for using it in that capacity. Okay, so um Yo goes back at least to like the fifteenth century as like a hunting cry, right when somebody was like somebody else might go yo, and you go chase fox um. That was kind of the first wave of yo um. As far back as eighteen fifty nine, we know that there were sailors that were using it yo ho Yo Ho ho, or also um. It was a response for roll call like yo, like somebody called your name,
you would say yo. It wasn't until after World War Two, though, that the modern incarnation comes and it came out of the Italian quarters of Philadelphia, So that's where they think yo came from after World War Two. Hence Eddie Murphy was wrong in using yo especially frequently in the movie Harlem Nights. So I did all that research, or I could have just looked into Google Translate from English too uh, Filippine uh, or vice versa and find that it just
means come. Yeah, but I don't think that's what it means here, does it? It does now? So the word yo yo, as it stands right means come, come or come back. Yeah, that makes sense. Did you know that I did? You want to talk a little bit about the history of yo yos? Did you know before reading this fantastic article that yo yo's originated, as we understand them now, originated in the Philippines in the nineteen twenties.
I didn't know that. I did know that it was around for a long time before that, though, And you know, other forms, well, pretty much the same form. There were like two forms of yo yo's in history, and one came out of the new one came out of the Philippines. The other one. Yeah, it's pretty old, well, ancient Chinese or at least ancient Greeks more years ago. But they think the Chinese had something similar to that. Yeah, I'm starting to strongly suspect that the Chinese or the origin
of human civili They think, yeah, they came up with beer. Yeah, well they came up with beer. You have it. They went right there. Uh. And it is the oldest toy on the planet except the doll, the dolly. I thought that was pretty interesting too. Yeah, yeah, of course, although I wonder if they're kind of diminishing any kind of ancient rituals or rights by saying, like, look at this cute doll when really it's you know, some sort of fetish m hmm. I don't know. You never know. So
it's been around a long time. They've designed it in different ways over the years. Uh. The original design was had the the string tied tight to the little axis there. We'll call it the Greek design, the Greek design. Now we'll call it the Chinese design or the European design. Well, not designed, but it was popular in Europe. And that obviously, if if you ever used an old yo yo like that, or redesign yours to where it's tied around the axle, it'll pop up, you know, as soon as you throw
it down, it'll pop back up. Yeah, because it's tied to the axle. Exactly right. Um, and you said it was popular in Europe. There were other words for other names for the yo yo before it was a yo yo. That's right. There was the lemigrette, the bendalora. The bendalora was British, I believe the quiz. Yeah, I don't. I didn't get a country of origin for that, but it was very popular in Europe. There's a painting of I
think Louis is he the boy King? I don't know whichever Louis was the boy King of him holding like a yo yo, like a royal painting of him with a yo yo? Or the what was a little hoop on in a stick? I think that's what it was called. That was an awesome game, the hoop on a stick? Who uh? And then, um, I don't think you can compare the yo yo to the hoop on a stick. No, I'm not comparing. I'm just saying I just never got that toy. Oh okay, Well here's another one for you.
Napoleon was well known for carrying and using a yo yo, apparently for stress relief. Oh yeah, it didn't work too well. He was a stressed out dude. He needed the yo yo. But as as you said that, that's the the European favored or Chinese design, where like the strings tied really tight to the axel and it just basically goes up and down. Right, So the Filipino design lead to the
modern yo yo as we understand it now. And the huge distinction is that the the string is just looped around the axle kind of loosely, which has the added benefit of allowing the yo yo itself to spin once it reaches the end of the string. Sleep. That's what the that's why people yo yo, I think, Yeah, it's all about the tricks. I mean, it's sort of fun for a minute just to go up and down, but it's really all about the tricks. It's just a stress reliever if it just goes up and down. Did you
yo yo when you were a kid? Uh? Yeah? Here there. But even as a kid like I could sense that like these these new modern ones that we'll talk about with like ball bearings and clutches, they just seem like cheating. I agree, let's not even talk about them. It's not even a real yo yo. So Chuck, you want to talk about a little bit about physics. Well, let's finish the history for shall we. Okay, well, I have plenty
of that. Uh. It was originally in the Philippines. They think it was a hunting weapon for like four years so, but not like a little tiny yo yo. They were really big and it was basically a big spindle attached to a rope with like spikes coming off of it. They were like the size of a ugo. Yeah, and I guess the just the benefit there is you could get it back after you threw it at somebody. Right. The stream was almost just useless though, Well you just
throw it and run after it. Oh really okay, it was actually heavy rope and they use it for hunting to right. Well, at some point down the line, well yeah, you would think anything used in hunting, you know, does double duty and more exactly anything you're trying to kill. Yeah. Um. The At some point though, they became smaller and became toys and uh. In the twenties, a Filipino immigrant to the US named and Drew flores Um started a company, the first modern yoyo company in the United States, and
did pretty well for himself. Uh. And then sold out to a man named Duncan, Right, Donald Duncan, Yes, Donald Ducan, and uh Duncan Duncan and uh, you know Flores's in Santa Barbara and like you said, was selling these things like hotcakes enough that Duncan said, hey, let me buy that. I'm gonna keep the name yo yo because it's catchy. I'm gonna trade market and now I own it. And uh.
Through the years he had competitors that made similar devices with different names, and they were like, dude, everyone's calling the sing of yo yo. We want to be able to call it a yo yo two. And he said, no, no, I own it. Then the federal courts in Nive says, you know what, that's generic enough now where you don't own it any longer. They're all yo yo's. Well, what there's legal challenges to their trademark. The name yo yo um was one of the things that bled the company dry.
It eventually went bankrupt. Duncan, the Duncan company went bankrupt in the same year. They ruled yeah against them. They were like, well, that's it for us, But they also had other money troubles. They was they were actually victims of their own success the Duncan company was, so they moved um in the forties to luck Wisconsin, which very quickly became known as the yo yo capital of the world.
And at their peak they were making thirty six hundred yoyos an hour, mostly out of would at first maple they were using a million board feet of maple wood every year. Yeah. And they actually, in addition to their legal challenges like the money going to fight their legal battles, um, they were paying tons of money in overtime to advertising. UM. And as a matter of fact, I think in nineteen sixty two, Chuck, they managed to sell forty five million yo yos and in that same year there were only
forty million kids in the US. That's pretty astounding. The chicken in every in a yo yo and every exact other hand at least sure unless I guess some kids were yoyo with both hands up. They're rich kids. Um. But like I said, they they the company ended up coming bankrupt anyway, but yo yo enthusiasts still look very fondly on the Duncan name. And UM. I think June sixth, Yes, June six is National yo Yo Day, which happens to be the same day as Donald Duncan's birthday. Yeah. Well,
and the Duncan name lives on. Obviously, you still see Duncan Yo Yo's. They sold out. They didn't just shut down, well, they went bankrupt and sold all right. Yeah, so who was it? The flam Flam bail plastics company. They said, we'll keep the name Duncan because it's synonymous with Yo Yo's. It's not generic yet. There's a little yoyo history for you. I got a little more. I'm going to stay to the end. I think you'll like. Okay, you didn't tease you with it. Now let's talk about physics. Well, I
think this is very interesting. Good. So there's a two Okay. You mentioned with the string tied to the classic Chinese design Yo Yo, you have one kind of um energy going on, right, yes, and that is a linear momentum, the ability of it to go up and down or I should say down and up right, that's right with the Filipino design, the modern design and has two kinds
of potential energy. It has that same linear momentum to go up and down, but it also has angular momentum and angular momentum is um its ability to spin on an axle. Okay, So you've got two things going on. And like you said, when the yo yo hits the end of the line of its linear momentum, it can still It's built up since it's wound around the spool, It's built up a lot of angular momentum. So we can just sit there and spin or sleep as you called it. Yeah, it actually increases as it goes down,
which is the key to keeping it spinning, right. It gets faster as it falls. There's another pretty cool trait to a yoyo. Who knew they were so complex? I didn't, did you? I did not? Okay? So um. They also have gyroscopic stability, chuck, they do. Okay. So if you if you have a yo yo that's sleeping and you push down on top of it, like it goes down and then back up, that's because of its gyroscopic stability.
That point that you push down on the yo yo is transferred from the front and spun around to the back. So that's even now, So the yo yo will just keep spinning as long as it's spinning fast enough. Gyroscopic stability, yes, that means a spinning object object will resist change to its access of rotation. And have you ever thrown a football, it's the same thing. Yeah, Or if you've ever thrown a football poorly, what do they call that? Wibbler turkey,
wounded duck brick. That's why wounded duck doesn't go very far because it doesn't have that tight spine, so it falls off its axis and won't travel as far, same as a frist and then the whole team's mad. Basically, anything that spins frisbees, footballs, there's there's gotta be a baseball. We could liken it to a baseball somehow. Let's say a curveball, knuckleball slider definitely not a knuckleball slider than spin at all? Really, is it like a shop put No,
the knuckleball you the whole key is. It doesn't move. It travels like this, and that's why it moves all around crazy. Um. It's so you've got your you've got your yo yo sleeping. You're you're totally aware of its gyros copic stability um and you understand that it's angular momentum is just awesome. It's far out right, it's far out but you want to wake it up, and that's when you bring it out of its sleep and rewind it back up the spool, right, little tug on the
old finger. Yeah, and the reason why is because the loop, right, there's less friction with the loop around the axle. When you tug it, you increase that friction and you allow it to rewind. It just grabs ahold of its buddy and just let's go back up to the palm. Yeah. It's pretty cool. Yeah. I like Yo yo physics a lot. So we basically just talked about the two hardest parts, right, sleeping and waking. Yeah, And like I said, sleeping is the key to do any kind of trick like walking
the dog, which I was pretty good. I used to could do a few yo yo tricks. Yeah, I could walk the dog, and I could do uh, I could do the deal where you you make a triangle and then TikTok through the triangle something like a cradle or probably the cats in the cradle let's call a cat's cradle, And then I could I could do the around the world. Wow, we're on the world. Yeah, I couldn't do any of those.
I'm gonna this inspired me to get a new Yoh. Yeah, by the way, I like the vintage Duncan ones, specifically the yellow ones with the butterfly like the gold the gold butterfly, the inverted ones. No one butterfly on that because they had those that were that looked like a butterfly that were I know what you're talking about, inverted, and I think that actually plays a part in the uh increasing the moment of inertia section. Yeah, I think that's why they flipped it out to put more weight
on the outside. Yeah, okay, well you want to talk about that? Why not? So do you remember when we did the um Murphy's Law podcast? How could I forget? Remember? One of the books that he wrote was for your Moments of Inertia? Yeah? Yeah, I didn't realize it was a terrible, terrible engineering pun until I read this article, mate, John Paul staff a little bit. Nah, we love that guy, so Chuck. A moment of inertia is basically a way of describing as spinning objects resistance two changes in that
rotation basically um being slowed down right, um. And what what smarter people than us have figured out is that if you increase the mass and distribute it slightly further away from the axis, you're going to increase its moment of inertia, right, and that increases the amount of time is just sleeping, right Yeah. And like I said, I don't know this, but I just remember when I was a kid, they had those inverted yo yos, and I
bet you anything that's why they did it. Be because they were wider at the outside and then curved in, which had to be less mass. Yeah, it was less stuff, less would So I'm gonna go on record as saying that's why they did that. But I think you want more mass further away to increase its moment of inertia, right, Yeah, so it was there was more mass on the outside further away from the axis. Yeah, so that allows things
to sleep a lot longer. And um, that was a I guess you could say one of the breakthroughs in yo yo design. I think in the sixties they started adding mass to the outside and um, extending the axle a little bit. Bam, the yo yo has been improved, think about this, right, maybe even longer than that years ago, somebody invented the yo yo does not change until the Philippines in the early twentieth century. Well, I thought it said it did change. We just don't know, said there
were changes in designs over the years. No, not that I took. I took it like there was one way and then there was the Filipino way, and that was it. We got a correction to make them, and then the twenty century hits and then there's all these great improvements on these designs. Indeed, one of the improvements Chuck was adding ball bearings. Right, yeah, well you and I don't think these are improvements ear least I don't. Okay, that's absolutely true. That's a good caveat. I think that the
Filipinos perfected the yo ya. Let's just call them modifications, okay for sorry kids who don't know how to yo yo rich kids. Yeah, that makes it easier, I think, And that the whole point of both of these things. Yeah, I guess makes it easier to sleep and yeaheah. And I guess they're like, well, if you're just enjoying sleeping and waking your yo yo, then why make it tough
if you want to have fun with your toy? Right, I can't believe they made it easier for kids to fund they So the ball bearing design I think is kind of clever. Um. Basically, the this modification takes the axle and splits it into Yeah, into two races, which are basically little courses for ball bearings to spin around. Right now, does that split the axle? These are just around the axle. So one is connected to the axle,
that's the inner race. One is connected to the string that's the outer race, and then in between the two are ball bearings. Right. Okay, they're not connected in any way, um except maybe via the context with the ball bearings. Right, So when you when you release your yo yo towards the ground and it's linear and angular momentum really build up when it hits the inter race can tilt a little bit and um connect with the outer race via
the ball bearings. So they're they're spinning, right, and then as they straighten out the um they they're they're not connected anymore, so that the string no longer has any effect on whether the yo yo spins or not, because it's just the inter race connected to the axle that's spinning. So your yo yo can sleep far far longer. Yeah,
the outer race spens the interrace, which spins the axle. Right, It's like a transfer of angular momentum, and then the strings just like you just let me know when you're done and we'll wind back up. Well, it'll get a little tug. Will do the same thing with that style, right, or you can just completely take yourself out of the equi Asian altogether except for a snap of the risk. The initial release is all you need to do with what's called the yo Yo with the brain. These are
really fake yo yo's. I want to get one though. It's kind of cool, like you could be in a vegetative state and do this yo yo. Yeah, this was in the nineties. Company called Yo Maica release these and they called it the yo Yo with the brain, when in fact they should have called it the yo Yo with the clutch. And Uh, the deal here is you've got these two clutch arms, uh weighted ball on one side and it's not attached on the other side, and
they're spring loaded. The spindle is not attached to the axle, but the clutch arms are attached to the spindle. So when you throw this thing down, it's gonna spin slower at first, and the and the clutch is engaged. As it gets faster, all of a sudden, it's enough inertia to pop the clutch. Essentially against the edges, and it releases the spindle, which makes the whole thing spin faster.
On the axis right, the centrifugal force um pushes down the weight, which pushes down the arm onto the spring, which releases the two which allows it to spin. And it only spends for a certain amount of time. It's not like the kind that you tug back up. It'll spin till it slows down and then the clutch locks back down and boom, it shoots back up right back up. I wanna, I wanna, I wish we had one of those.
I want to see what it's like. So basically, the big to the two modifications are based on separating the string from the axle by by creating two different kinds of I guess axles or spindles or whatever, which are really just sort of taking the Philippine Filipino design a step further because although it made contact with the axle, that wasn't quote connected to the axle. Yeah, I guess
it was, but it wasn't tight. And a guy named Michael Caffrey is the one who came up with the yo yo with the brain, and you omega started telling him in but he came up with two years after a man named Tom Qun created the no Jive three and one yo yo that you could take apart and replace the axle and do all sorts of modifications with no really big big time for changes in yo yo design. So did he rip this, dude off? Is that what
you're saying? Okay, No, I'm just saying, like the two these two big steps in um yoyo design, he said two years after it was sinister. Well, you're a very suspicious person I am when it comes to yo yo design, Chuck. That's pretty much the physics of yo yo's. Did you know that we just explained how yo yo's work. You know, I looked online at videos and stuff to make it a little easier because this is a very visual thing,
and they do have videos. But what I found out is that a lot of teachers, physics teachers use yo yos to describe these whatever four to six properties that we described. I have to tell you, I understand angular momentum far better now. I understand and although it went through the yo yos to the football, I understand the moment of inertia. Okay, are wait? Is that moment of inertia? No? That's angular momentum. Angular momentum spinning on an axis. Yeah,
oh you're talking about the gyros copic stability. Yeah, that's what it was. See I get confused. I need to chuck. It's physics, man, don't feel bad. Um you want to know A couple more pieces of yo yo trivia. In one, Abby Hoffman of the Chicago Seven was um indicted uh or no, charged with contempt of Congress when he um started doing the walk the Dog uh and during a House American Activities Committee session that was investigating him. So
he was like, I'm just so over this, I'm gonna yoyo. Well, apparently, the way I read it is that he was trying to entertain lighting everything up, like here, watch me yoyo, and he was walking the dog and the who act said, so that's how yoyo's are connected to McCarthy is m if you want to take a n y sk quiz and that comes up. Plus, yoyos were huge back then. That was like the heyday. I think this is the sixties. Yeah, um, Nixon,
have you seen Nixon try to yoyo? Man, if you don't like Nixon, this will just make you hate him even more the night that they opened the Grand Old Opry and I think sometime in nineteen seventy four, Um, what's the main guy, like the whole cast of Heehaus behind Nixon and then the main roy Akoff. He presents Nixon with a yoyo and like has to put it on Nixon's finger and Nixon looks like what's going on?
You know? And um, and then he tries to do it once and it just kind of like flops down and makes like sad trombone noise and he just has this sullen like look on his face, like I don't like yo yo's. He looks kind of like you did at the beginning of this episode. Yeah, me and Tricky did um. And then they took a yo yo in space Chuck, Yeah, I saw that and it still worked. It did work. They found that like letting it drop
did nothing because they were testing it in microgravity. But if you throw it, um, it will it will go slowly. You can you can do it slowly, but it will still spin um. And it moves kind of um just kind of gracefully along the string like in just mid air horizontally and um. But it will never sleep well, thank God, NASA did that. Yeah, those are all the videos you see that. They do much more than that. That was back when NASA was like, we have so
much money, we don't know what to do. Let's launch something and let's say the Toys and Space Project, right, and they did. Now this was just where ho yos. That was the only thing they did on that flight. Well, No, the Toys and Space Project in company or encompassed to sixty Shuttle missions, one for each toy that they tested out. Jack's was one of the best ones, the Belo paddle. So that's uh, that's yo yos. Frankly, I'm pretty happy with this one. I thought you were going to lead
in with something on yo yo ma. Man try to look up yo yo's in the news and not get yo yo ma cheez, can't do it, stupid. I searched yo yo minus ma minus knee minus gabba to finally get some stuff. Oh what was the other one here, Mama neo yo MTV raps that came up to did it? Yeah? I stopped searching before I minused MTV two. You know how you could minus I was in Yeah, and it'll it'll route out all the search all this all the results that have that. So you just put the minus
on minus and then the next letter. No space had no idea, and you can do a bunch of different ones, no comms, no nothing, just like minus Gabba minus Yo minus mom minus Knee. You've literally just improved my life. Oh good, or my research for like the eight Time to Day. Yeah all right, well that's it alright yo Yo's. I was in a jewelry store once and Neo came in. It seemed nice. Who's Neo? He's this rapper. He's from Atlanta. I thought you're talking about the matrix. No, that's like
his real name is Ken Neo. This is Knee Yo. Oh yeah, I've heard of him. Yeah him. Well, if you want to learn more about Yo Yo's, including some really top notch illustrations, this is one of those ones that you will see why we have staff illustrators here actually in color. No. Um, you want to type in yo Yo at the in the handy search bart how stuff works dot com. That will bring up that really cool article. Um and I said handy itch bar. So now it's time for Chuck to shine with another edition
of Listener Mail. Josh. This is uh one of our oldest than not by age, but one of our most loyal fans and its spies. She has a band and they put together Well, let me just read it. This is coming out shortly after Christmas, and she said it was still great to read this. Hi, guys and Jerry, since we're firmly in the festive, greedy, little grip of the holiday season, I was wondering if you could give a shout out to a project I'm involved in, or
my band is. At least it's a charity album to raise funds for the continued fallout from the Japanese earthquake and nuclear disaster, and the light of everything that's happened since I know, it's been put on the back burner of most people's charitable contributions, which is why we were thrilled and honored to our part to re raise awareness when the label releasing this compilation approached us to contribute
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