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Short Stuff: The Killing Stone

Sep 18, 20249 min
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The Killing Stone looms large in Japanese folklore, so when it split in half in March 2022, people were worried it would bring devastating effects in its wake. Except... they really didn't.

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Speaker 1

Hey, and welcome to the short stuff, Josh heir Chuck here, let's get it up all the way to Japan.

Speaker 2

That's right. We're going to Japan to talk about a very famous rock in Japan that split in two in twenty twenty two. And there was a tweet that kind of got big that featured a picture of that broken rock that said, and this is translated from Japanese, I came alone to the Killing Stone where the legend of the nine tailed Fox remains. If it's a manga, it's a pattern that the seal is broken and it's possessed by the nine tailed Fox. And I feel like I've

seen something that shouldn't be seen. Let's go, let's talk about this famous rock.

Speaker 1

Okay. So yeah, This person who tweeted that was a tourist in Togichi Prefecture in Japan, and she was visiting this very famous giant rock that supposedly was the dead form of the fox spirit Tomamo no Mai, and supposedly Tomamo no Maai had been trapped for centuries in this rock that people like the tweeter would go visit. The thing is, when the tweeter went to visit it this rock had been split in two, and that meant possibly that Tomamo no Mai had.

Speaker 2

Escaped, right, And the idea was that Tomama no Mai was trapped in this stone called the Shesho siki. Is that right?

Speaker 1

Uh? Sessho sessho seki, all right.

Speaker 2

Which is killing stone. And here's the thing is the Internet kind of got it wrong if you look at the original lore of the story. Uh, Tomamo no Mai was actually the stone and not trapped in the stone. Sure, so let's talk about this, okay, further so doing setups right.

Speaker 1

Tommo no Mai was a very famous spirit of nine tailed fox spirit in Japanese folklore, and she showed up in a number of different myths and tales in Japanese folklore.

But there's one in particular that concerns the story, and it involved the Emperor Toba, the seventy fourth Japanese Emperor, who was a very real person who lived from eleven oh three to eleven fifty six CE, and during this reign, allegedly, according to folklore, Tmomo Nomai, the fox spirit, showed up disguised as a woman and said, I think you're gonna like me, check me out.

Speaker 2

That's right. The idea was to just sort of preoccupy and be which this emperor and then overthrow, overthrow the emperor. What happened, as according to the lore once again, is that the emperor was enthralled, sort of neglected his duties and then fell very, very sick around the same time. So a soothsayer came along and said, wait a minute, I suspect that you Nomai are behind this whole thing.

And so she fled into you know, the land surrounding there, basically it's Mountain Nasu, and the legend was that they caught up to her, she was slain, and that her body turned into the stone at that very spot, right.

Speaker 1

So it's very significant that it was a group of samurai who tracked her down and killed her, shot her with an arrow because folklorists believe that this tale of Tomamo Nomai enchanting the emperor and basically causing him to stop paying attention to his duties is some sort of allegory I guess for what's called the Hogan Rebellion, this time when the emperor's rule gave way to rule by the samurai, which lasted for centuries afterward. And so that

This was kind of a about that story. Maybe justified it, I'm not sure, but the essential ingredients are that the emperor was bewitched and helpless and had to be saved by the samurai.

Speaker 2

Yeah, and it was you know, there were a lot of This is just one of many, many stories in Japanese folklore wherein monsters would appear, a hero would rise up to save somebody. It was usually metaphor for you know, something politically that was going on, right, and maybe I say we take a break.

Speaker 1

I think I agree with you. Sure, all right, We'll be right back, okay, Chuck. So where we left off, Tamamonamayi has turned into a giant stone. And this stone that people would go visit was something like six feet tall and twenty five feet in diameter. It was no small stone. It sounds like it was shaped kind of like Slimer from Ghostbusters.

Speaker 2

Yeah, and I think that was circumference, by the way, what did I say, diameter circumference?

Speaker 1

Thanks, So people would go visit this and one of the reasons why that this stone in particular came to be identified as the Sessho Seki the killing Stone, is because it really kind of stood out from its it's the other stones in the area. You could just pick it out and be like that looks cool. And then the actual area itself on the mountain what was the mountain's name, uh Namatsu Nasu mount Yes, mountain Nasu is it's like a volcanic plane. There's active volcanoes in the area.

So there's like poison gas like spewing up out of the earth around the stone. It's quite menacing in that sense, especially if you know what the legend is and you're looking at the stone as if it were the Killing Stone.

Speaker 2

Yeah, so there are potentially some poisonous gases, sulfuric gases that seep out of the ground in that area. While it's nothing that would hurt a human, if you went to this you know stone which really stands out and looks weirdly out of place there and you found like some dead squirrels laying around, it could lend itself to the idea that either Josh was nearby no or that an evil spirit could radiate death from that spot. And

this is a very very well known story. I don't think we said that it was you know, it was part of folklore and there are a lot of these stories, but this seems to be one of the bigger ones, and it's kind of like a universally known tale in Japan,

so it's a very very famous story. And so you know, when this thing split, it was, you know, the Internet goes a little hog wild for a short time talking about whether or not the evil spirits will be unleashed and whether or not this is all coming to fruition. Apparently if you do like on the ground research and talk to Japanese people, they're like, we don't really think that. Of course we don't. This is the Internet being the Internet.

Speaker 1

Yeah. And in addition to that, over the years, initially Tamamunamai was depicted as just nothing but evil, a corruptor of men and usurper of male power. And then as Japanese society kind of softened and progressed, progressed and it stands on women, she actually evolved along with that, interestingly, so that now today when she's used in like manga, anime or something like that, she's usually kind of like

a proto feminist anti hero. Is how this article from how Stuff Works put it, I think perfectly.

Speaker 2

Yeah, totally, And you know, of course nothing happened because this folklore. But I imagine it's still and apparently this is a big thing in Japan to like go visit this thing in the woods, right, yeah, yeah, And that seems like a dumb down way of saying it, because we visit plenty of great things in the woods as well, but you know, smaller things like you know, this rock in the middle of this national forest becomes like a pretty pretty standard tourist attraction.

Speaker 1

Yeah, And I didn't realize there was a term for that kind of tourism, contents based tourism, where it's just the one thing that you're going out of your way to go see to a place you probably wouldn't have otherwise gone, like the Giant Ball of yarn or something like that.

Speaker 2

You know. Yeah, well, except this is in a national park, which I imagine is beautiful.

Speaker 1

Sure, I think it is too. I have nothing else except I want to go on the record as correcting you. I love the squirrels now, and I don't have years and years and years I know.

Speaker 2

I'm just kidding.

Speaker 1

Okay, well, Chuck was kidding everybody. That means short stuff is out.

Speaker 2

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