How the Rosetta Stone Works

it's always lamps in here. Well, Jerry's decorated. It's nice. It is nice. It's just like an Ikea cattalog. That's right. Um, Chuck, how many times have you been to Egypt? Um? Kinding that trip in high school? Zero? Same here? Yeah, and yet we know an awful lot about Egypt. Yeah, it's popular, especially ancient Egypt. Like I would wager that we probably know more about ancient Egypt than modern Egypt most people in the West. Yeah, is there a modern Egypt? There is?

And uh, it's undergoing quite a bit of turmoil right now. Um, Okay, I just wanted to make sure that you knew that Egypt was still around. Kay Um. Well, the reason that you and I know a lot about Egypt is thanks to a soft science one of the humanities. You would call it um called egyptology, pretty on the nose name for the study of ancient Egypt. It's a real popular thing and has been for a while a while, but not too terribly long, I would say, about the beginning

of the nineteenth century. Uh. And the reason that all of it was foster than that all of it came about and that we you and me know about Egypt was because of the discovery of a tablet known as the Rosetta stone. Right. But you can also go back even further and make the case that if it wasn't for Napoleon Bonaparte, we may not understand Egypt to this day. Yeah, that little guy, he wasn't that little though, is that right? Right? He was average height? Why why does why do people

say that? Then? Where that come from? Because some doctor wrote down I think upon his death that he was five ft two. But what a lot of people don't realize is that the doctor was using the French inch, which is longer than the British Imperial inch. So when you translate five ft two from the French inch to the imperial he was about five six, which is average height.

And uh. The other reason why he was called like the little Emperor by his armies was because compared to most of his bodyguards and his people he had around him, he was shorter than them. Yeah. I guess when you're five six, he wants some six four dudes or on you. Right. So, but the idea that he was a very short man is is not correct. Yeah, I'd always heard that, but I did another story, the French Inch. There's your band name for the day. Although I typically don't like rhyming names,

French inch doesn't rhyme. It's just it sounds similar. I wouldn't call it a rhyme. French and inch, Yeah, French of the e and the eye. Yeah, that's nippicky. Well yeah, it's the vowels that rhyme, that the confidence. Yeah. But if you're Steve Maltmous and you put French at the end of the line and an inch at the end of another, it would be it would be rhymy and you'd sell a lot of records. That's right. Yeah. Um, yeah, Well, there was our pavement reference episode. That's becoming a daily

thing too. So you want to get on with this, Yeah, let's do it. We're gonna be talking Rosetta Stone, not the language software, which neither one of us has ever used. No, we're talking about the the real thing, which is actually bigger than I thought. You know, many things are smaller for me, like when you see him in person, Lisa, of course, mona Lisa small. Like I went to England, I was like, big Ben, that ain't so big. Yeah, I don't think I had the impression of big Bembo.

It's kind of underwhelmed. It definitely didn't seem big. Whereas the Eiffel Tower that was bigger than I thought. That is where I developed a fear of heights that still plagues me to this day. Like it literally happened to me on the Eiffel Tower on the way up. Never had a fear of heights in my entire life. On the way down, I like was hanging on to the fence and it took me forever to get down because I was suddenly deathly afraid of height. Just hit me

my brain Uh changed? How old were you? Uh? Seventeen is wow? Yeah? I didn't go up to the top. I probably missed out. I didn't either. It was the first level that got me really wow. Alright, so, um, anyway, where was I going? Oh, it's bigger than I thought it was. It is um black basalt, and it weighs about three quarters of a ton um inches high point five inches wide and twelve inches deep. And it's it's large, it's heavy, it's um. You didn't write this, did you? No? Um,

it's about the size of a heavy coffee table. Were you about to make fun of something? I was just gonna say. Whoever wrote this ref referenced an l c D TV of medium size. Yeah, a medium screen l c D television. Oh, by the way, thank you to Teresa Dove fan request. That's who requested this one. Yeah. Okay, so, um, it's larger than I thought. And I learned a lot about this. I thought the Rosetta stone because I'm a dummy.

Um was literally like, here's what our alphabet is, and here's what everything means, and now that you found it, you can decipher everything. Yeah. I think I had the same impression as well. Until I read this, I thought it was like created as a key to higher glyphics, not at all. Not so it was a government document. Basically, it's a stella stella. Stella is the plural. And uh, it's not just the Egyptians that use stella stella um. The Mayans have largely been figured out their language has

from old stella. Yeah. Um. Well, and that's it. Those are the two that use stella. Yeah. In this case, it's an inscription carved in three different languages, Greek, hieroglyphics and demotic with the t not demonic. Yeah, demotic. But since I'm from the South, I saw it in my tea, so it might sound like I'm saying demonic um. And basically it was in the three languages to ensure that everybody could read it because it was an official government decree.

Not super exciting though. No, it wasn't basically what the Rosetta stone says. And like you said, it's in three languages. There's a degree that says um. Essentially that Ptolemy the fifth is a great ruler and he is a righteous worship or of all the right gods. So he's okay in our book. And this decree was made by some priests who gathered at Memphis and they um inscribed the stoner had and inscribed and dated March, and it's not.

It doesn't actually say March hieroglyphics. It says eighteen must Shire, which on the Egyptian calendar translates to something like um March uh. And then they got the because somewhere in there the references the ninth year of Ptolemy, the fifth reign, which is about so that's where they got the date from the what we would in the West equate it to. Yeah, so um, like we said, it doesn't say anything of particular interest at the time, it was an important message.

But it's not the Rosetta stone because of what is transcribed upon that stone. No, it's the fact that it's in three different languages. So there's like you said, hieroglyphics, Demotic and Greek, and hieroglyphics were a sacred um alphabet. Yeah, they used that for really important stuff. I didn't know this either. I thought just any old thing they wanted to write was a hieroglyphics. Now that's what they had demiotic for or demotic that was kind of like an

abbreviated shorthand more vulgar version of hieroglyphics. Yeah, and in between that was hieratic um, which was slightly more complicated than demotic, but less complicated and not sacred like hieroglyphics. Yeah, it was like a kind of a transition between Um demotic and hieroglyphics. Curve right, so you can UM, so you could use um hieratic for like a business transaction. But if you were saying the king is a very righteous ruler and you mentioned the gods, you're to use hieroglyphics.

That's so to have it written in Greek UH demotic, which was an offshoot of hieratic, which was an off shoot of hieroglyphics, and UM hieroglyphics. These priests that gathered and issued this decree that was written on the Rosetta stone, they made sure that everyone in Egypt two was literate could read this one way or another. Yeah, And it

was sort of not a stroke of luck. I mean, it was just smart thinking at the time, but ended up being a stroke of luck because the three languages, I mean, without that, I don't think we we may have never been able to figure out hieroglyphics. No agreed, And I've been lost forever exactly. Um. And that's that's not the only way that the Rosetta Stone was kind

of a bit of fortune. But UM. So the reason that it was lost was up until the fourth century a d any average Egyptian could have read the Rosetta Stone one way or another. But after that the egypt it left the pharonic stage. Cleopatra is the last pharaoh of Egypt, and then it came to be ruled by the Greeks, later on the Romans, the Tlamites, UM, and a bunch of different foreigners or different groups. And with these groups came the introduction of new gods and the

suppression of old gods. And since hieroglyphics were um very much religious in nature. They're sacred or holy, but associated with those old gods, hieroglyphics itself came to be cut off stop suppressed. Yeah, especially Christianity. Um. They tended to want to get rid of other competing gods and languages that are tied to those gods. Right, But luckily we

still had Demotic, that's right, and Demotic wasn't taboo. UM. That eventually became what's known as Coptic, and Coptic used UM some Greek um and in a little bit of still of the hieroglyphic symbols. So there's still like this, just a little bit, very tenuous link between Coptic and hieroglyphics. But then Coptic is lost, it's pushed out by Arabic, and then that was like way gone, goodbye hieroglyphics. That's it. That was like the hieroglyphics is no longer understood by

anyone walking planet Earth. And that means that all of the ancient Egyptian civilization itself was lost thousand years aside from its structures, um, the the thought put into it, the reasoning behind it, all the explanations, all of the inscriptions, all the writing all over these ancient buildings are understood

by no one now. And then as a result of that, the buildings themselves, the last vestiges of this ancient civilization, are deconstructed and used for the next wave by new rulers, and so ancient Egyptian culture is lost to the mists of time. Yeah, wow, thanks very nice. Yeah, there was no love lost. They were basically like, we don't need this language anymore, we don't need these sacred buildings anymore. They're pagan anyway. Yeah, let's tear them all down, build

up new ones. And oddly, the Rosetta stone was actually used as a buttress in a wall of a new building. Yes, so part of the construction. Right, that's how this is another way that this is all just stroke of luck after stroke of luck. So the first stroke of luck, as you pointed out, is that they just happened to decree that this thing be written in three languages, same

message in three languages. Then it's used for a building a wall, right, Yeah, Then it happens to be discovered by some French who are marooned in Egypt because they got crushed by the British right when they tried to invade. Yeah, I guess let's talk about that person. The French thought, hey, we need to we need to get a stronghold on India eventually, and Napoleon said, I think a good way to do that is to start a little further away,

and let's say Egypt. Let's cut off the the Brits access to the Nile River and that will really help our cause. Unfortunately, the Brits at a great navy and pretty much destroyed all their ships and stranded them in Egypt for what nineteen years? Yeah. Yeah. And so for the French, whose ships were now at the bottom of Abu Kir bay Um, they decided that they really kind of needed to set themselves to creating forts, like since

we're here, right, um. And it wasn't just military that was there part of this invasion, this um strategy that Napoleon had come up with to take over Egypt, it was kind of a hearts and mind strategy too, and so he created something called the Institute of Egypt, also known as the Scientific and Artistic Commission uh mineral a. Just mathematicians, art historians, a lot of engineers, chemists, all of like, all of these people from the letters and

sciences UM brought together to understand and study Egypt. Yeah, they were actually given military rank, but they weren't. I think that was just more of a here just so we'll call you military, Like, they weren't from military backgrounds, so they were thinkers. But they were among this invading force that was left stranded in France. So as the real military guys were billing the forts, the people from the Institute Egypt starts studying Egypt. Yeah, I guess they

were the first Egyptologist. Yeah, boy, it was close. Uh, they definitely were. Uh, and it was very covert operation, like they weren't really allowed to talk about what they were doing that much except to just say, hey, we're following Napoleon's orders, acting on behalf of the good of the French Republic. This is what we're doing. Don't ask any questions, yeah, that's what. Don't ask why I have this measuring tape out or why I'm transcribing things from papyrus.

But they did, um, they did become I guess embedded with the local population as well to help learn as much as they could. And so it's under this climate that French soldier one day, um finds this very polished black stone that's inscribed and something about it told him that it was pretty important. So we took it to these um early egyptologists, the French, and said, you guys

think this is important and they said yes, yeah. That was Lieutenant Pierre Francois Bouchard, and uh, he took it to his boss and they they said, okay, this is weird that this is built into a wall, but it's clearly something of note and maybe we should take a closer look at it, and UM, immediately they started to get to work on trying to transcribe it. Super difficult at the time, UM, and would prove to be difficult

over the years. UM. It eventually ended up in the hands of England, of course, but luckily these uh, the Institute of Egypt people made copies of it. Yeah, I think that like etchings or in the plaster molds and things. I'm sure, yeah, But they had readable copies of the Rosetta Stone, so when they did give it up to the British, it wasn't entirely lost to them, that's right, and give it up as in not here have this. It was more like here, we're taking this in the

Treaty of Alexandria. We're gonna take this in a bunch of other stuff. So now basically you have the French and the British both have the Rosetta Stone. The one group that doesn't are the Egyptians. We'll get to that later. UM. And both of them recognized that this is a very very important something. They know that it's some sort of decree.

They recognize that it's in three different languages, and I think it becomes obvious to them that this could be the key to understanding hieroglyphics, which people have tried to understand. This is not new people going back to a fellow named um Horapolo, who was a fifth century scholar. Supposedly he may not have actually existed. Um he created basically what was a translation for hieroglyphics, right, but it was

a false translation, as we'll see. But you know, dating back basically from the moment that hieroglyphics were lost to history, people have tried to understand them. So these this this was the British and the French were aware of this, like this may be the key to these mysterious hieroglyphics, and this is important, so we're going to try to

translate it. Yeah. Well it became a race really because they didn't like each other very much and they both wanted to be the first ones to figure out what these hieroglyphics meant and how to unlock this history and um so they sent their best, in their brightest on the English side, the British side, it was a scholar named Thomas Young, and then on the French side we had Jean Francois Champollon who he was sort of born

to do this. Apparently he was way into Egypt as a kid even and as a young child said I'm gonna I'm gonna figure out hieroglyphics one day. Yeah. He was even called the Egyptian because he had dark skin and dark hair. And um, I think a magician like foretold his fame one day. Yeah, when he was born. Supposedly a magician said this guy's can be famous, and and he was and um, yeah, he was a very talented linguist. He studied under a guy named Um Sylvester

de Sassy. Yeah, Antoine Isaac Sylvester de Saucy. Uh he um, who would take a crack at the Rosetta stone. But he trained uh Champolion. Is that how we're saying it. Yeah, sure he trained him. Um, but Champolion quickly became went from student to master. He applied for he applied to be a student at an institute in Paris, and they were impressed enough with his application that they said, how about you just skipped the school part and come beyond

the faculty. That's pretty good. Yeah, that's a talented linguist. Yeah. They did the same thing when I applied to Georgia. Is that right? Like you just want to go and be an English teacher? Na, Oh really you turned it down. Huh. Sure, I wanted to be a student. Oh gotcha. Um. So before all this happens, Um, we we have the Greek inscription transcribed, which that was Reverend Stephen Watson in eighteen o two. And I don't want to say it was no big deal, but there were quite a few people

that could have done this. It wasn't like unlocking hieroglyphics, but it was a necessary part of the process. Right, So we want to give him his due. So we have a we have a translation and accurate translation of what the says exactly. So that's step one. And if you have one translated, then if you're a linguist, I guess. I mean it sounds really difficult to do too. I mean it's I can't imagine the painstaking the process of

figuring out and alphabet. Yeah, I mean, I think about how hard it is to translate a well known language and a language that you speak. Imagine translating uh, language that's totally lost into something understandable. Um. So we had the Greek and then eventually we had the demotic as well. Um. Yeah, thanks to Yeah Antoine Uh and that same year at the same time as Swedish diplomat named Aker balade Um also translated the demotic um and they both went about

it two different ways. I thought this was pretty interesting. Yeah, so do saucy Um figured out that there were two proper names at least in there, Ptolemy and Alexander, and he used those two match up sounds and symbols. Um Awker Blode probably had the bigger breakthrough. He used a different technique. He recognized that there was something similar between demotic and coptic, and he was well schooled and coptic, which helped obviously. Yeah, that that was his big breakthrough.

He he figured out what words spelled love, temple, and Greek, and he used that to form basically this rough uh structure for Demotic based on his awareness of coptic. Yeah, that's only eleven letters. It's pretty impressive. Yeah, but I mean, if you've got eleven letters, it's a decent I think they called it a skeletal outline. I guess that's what you'd have. Well, yeah, I mean, especially since Coptic was only what twenty two plus a couple more from hieroglyphics.

It's like a big wheel of fortune game. Yes after that, right. So the thing is though, this established connection now between coptic and demotic and then demonic and hieroglyphics, since they're side by side, that kind of opened up this meant reality that would be needed to finally crack the hieroglyphics for for um, the Rosetta stone. And Thomas Young was the first to really try it. He was the British guy, and he got somewhat far, but he gave up. Yeah,

he in eighteen fourteen. His big breakthrough was figuring out what a cartouche was, and that is um, it's they say oval, but it's a little more squared away with round edges, but it's a loop basically with hieroglyphic characters in it. And he figured out that these are not

only proper names, but royal names. Anything in pain and containing a cartouche is a royal name, which was a big breakthrough because he identified Tolemy, the pharaoh's name in one of the car cartouches cartouche cartouches, and uh, his Queen Baronica was in there as well, so he said you know what again, I've got these two names now to work with hum but he was still working on Roppolo's false premise that hieroglyphics was not phonetic in nature

and that it was based just on symbols. Right, That's what Horopolo's big contribution was to confuse a centuries worth of scholars bad for young because he was onto something and if he wasn't using that the fake or or not fake but just the poor system, then he might have figured it out. Right. So this is the thing like everyone believed for Apolo, because Popolo claimed that his

translation was a direct translation from hieroglyphic. It was written in the fifth century a d. Right around the time we lost hieroglyphics, so it was considered to be a primary source and basically completely reasonable. Yeah, but it was wrong. It was wrong because it said that hieroglyphics are symbolic. So like, if you see a cart a picture that looks like a cart next to a cat and then a lizard, what that should say under a Hiropolos translation

is cart, cat lizard. This kept throwing everybody off because it didn't make sense, especially right, especially when compared to the Greek translation and the translation of Demotic that didn't make any sense whatsoever. So, like you said, Young gave up, but he published his findings, and you can really strongly make a case that had it not been for Young's breakthrough, Uh,

Champolion would not have cracked the Rosetta Stone. No, which uh we should mention here that like they should just accept each other as as co workers and colleagues and get along. But there was a competition that exists to this day of who what country claims that they translated the Rosetta Stone. The French still say that Champagnan was really the one. The Brits obviously say no, it was

really Young. And even when they displayed it in nineteen seventy two with the one of the times it's left England or maybe the only time they let France display it for like a year, um, they argued about the size of the photos of the two on both sides of it, when in fact the photos were the same size of Young and Champion. Yeah, not photos but portraits. Yeah. But the French were like, well, no, Young's is bigger.

The Brits were like, no, his is bigger, And they were the same size, so they were really just they never came to a common ground on who did it, when in fact they both did. And there were rumors apparently during that time that France was gonna to steal the Rosetta stone and keep it and not turn it back to England. And this is in the nineteen seventies,

so it's not like a long time ago. Um. So Champagnon picked up in eighteen fourteen where Young left off and started to think, you know what, I need to think more about this, this simple thing that Harapolo like, I don't know if he he was on base after all. And that was actually the breakthrough he um. He got some old cartouches and he figured out, um, that the last two letters and one of them were identical. So that's a good thing because you know that it's the

same letter. He figured out that it was the letter S and um. Then the first character was a circle, and he said, maybe that's the sun and in ancient Egypt, the sun god was raw and coptic. Yeah, and so basically figured out that that name was Ramseys. Yeah. Then

that was a huge breakthrough. He figured out the the identical letters, the last two were S S, the first one was raw and since he knew that it was in a cartouche, that it was a royal name from that era, the only person it could have been was Ramsey. So that's how we cracked the code like you say yea, and cracked it in like, hey, this is a phonetic thing. He was wrong the whole time, and apparently he fainted on the spot, which is dramatic, kind of cute. He

was French. Sure. Um. So out of that moment, Egyptology was fully born, Like now we had a way to understand all this stuff that hadn't been destroyed and re used as building material. Just took a long time though. It wasn't like they could just read it. It still took a lot of translating. Oh yeah, but they had the basis. Um. Yeah, all they've done is transcribe one single stella. They had millennia worth of things to like papyrus is and papyri um and building inscriptions and sarcopha

guy and all that letters. Yeah whatever. Yeah, um, And so Egyptology is born. And now that it's understood, at that moment, there's also a great desire to protect Egypt and all of its treasures. Yeah, and to get things right because previous to that in Napoleon and gang did a pretty good job. But they also speculated a lot. Yeah, because they couldn't read hyard glyphics. Yeah, so they ended up correcting a lot of things about what they thought

about Egypt. And Um, like you said, they wanted to protect things because Egypt at the time was I mean, they were selling these things off to collectors left and right because a they did another true value and be there was a market for it. Sure, doctors during the Middle Ages who were just big dummies would use mummies from Egypt. Uh, they grind it up and use it to cure disease, which didn't work. Um. And so there

was this move to protect Egyptian antiquities from Egyptians. There was kind of this patriarchal mentality, especially among the British, that we need to get everything out of Egypt and into museums and into like the hands of us who will preserve them and not sell them to Middle Age or Middle Middle Ages doctors for cure alls. But to his credit, in my opinion, Champoleon argued very strongly in favor of keeping them in founding a museum in Egypt

to store these keeping them in Egypt. Yeah. I think he was a little bit of a control freak, like he knew that he could care for things in the proper way and he I don't think he trusted even other museums at the time to care for things in the right way. And he was kind of right because a lot of it was destroyed. Yeah, Like apparently to preserve an ancient papyrus you have to store it in a low humidity um area. Yeah, in a chamber and

in a bamboo box container. And they didn't know this, and they shipped them by seed to the UK and they all like crumbled the nothingness on the way. Um. Yeah. So the Rosettason still sits in the museum in London, where it's been since eighteen o two, except for the time it went to France briefly. Uh. And in two thousand three Egypt it was like, you know what, I want this thing back, not I we want this thing back and it's ours and it's I don't care who

found it, it's ours. And England said in two thousand five took him two years to build a replica and say, hey, how about this, this is just like it I guess at least they didn't try to pass it off. Well, yeah, that's true. UM sind him a replica and they're like, I appreciate this, this is nice, but we really would

like the real thing. And England said no, and not just England, but a lot of the big museums, the LOUVERA and UM, a bunch of the world museums kind of all got together in support of one another and said, you know what repaid repatriotation is. We're not into it. We're just not gonna give things back anymore because we can care for it best. It belongs to the world now. And they just sort of banded together and said, we're keeping our stuff, and that's I think we're it's probably

gonna stay. They are trying to get it for a I think in two thousand twelve they tried to get it for a the grand opening of the Grand Egypt Museum. Sounds didn't happen, but even then they said now they wanted for like three weeks and they said nope, under the guys of I don't know if it's guys, but they said, would be too dangerous to transport it. That's the story they have at least well. Yeah, uh so that's uh how museums work, pillage and deny village and deny.

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