Welcome to Stuff You Missed in History Class, a production of iHeartRadio. Hello, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Holly Frye.
And I'm Tracy V.
Wilson. Today we are talking about a piece of I guess you would call it a historical true crime that reads like a tella novella. We're also going to hit the two hundred year anniversary of this particular drama, which involves a politician, a lawyer, and a woman perhaps connected to both of them, and it unfolds as the story of sexual scandal and political intrigue and ultimately leads to murder. The details of the Beecham Sharp tragedy cannot all be verified.
There remain a lot of questions regarding accusations made among the three and beyond, and even questions about testimony in a subsequent court case. So a note on pronunciation. The way beach is spelled looks French. It looks like it would be pronounced Beauchamp. It is b ea u c cha MP. I have heard it pronounced Beauchamp, but in a version of the story that was told in audio format by the Kentucky Historical Society, they use the pronunciation Beacham.
It sort of pains me to shorten a beautiful French name in that way, but we're going to do it. That's my own bias. I couldn't find a definitive source for that pronunciation, but I'm going to presume that the Kentucky Historical Society has more knowledge of it, and so I'm happy to defer to them. This also made typing the name very difficult for me. Sure I see that c slash. Hear that pronunciation a lot like among English speakers,
specifically for Beacham, when it looks like it should be Beauchamp. Oh, I wanted to be Beauchamp. Again, my own bias, but that is the story that we going to tell today. To set the scene, we will start with a very brief biography of each of the three main players in the story.
So first main player in the story Solomon P. Sharp, who was born on August twenty second, seventeen eighty seven in Washington County, Virginia. He grew up in a log cabin in Kentucky after his parents, Thomas and Jean Sharp, moved there a few years after Solomon was born. This was a time when this area was still pretty rugged. Life was challenging there. By the time he was twenty,
Solomon was already a practicing lawyer. He started his career as a lawyer in Russellville, Kentucky, but he soon moved about twenty six miles east to Bowling Green, Kentucky. That's in Warren County. He quickly built a successful law career there, and he further grew his fortune by investing in land speculation. In eighteen oh nine, he was elected to the state legislature as a county represented. He was re elected the next year. His legislative career was interrupted by the War
of eighteen twelve. Sharp served in the Kentucky Mounted Militia, but that service was brief. He only served for six weeks and then he went right back to politics and was elected to Congress in late eighteen twelve. He was a two term congressman, and then he went back to his law practice in Bowling Green. In eighteen eighteen, Sharp married a woman named Eliza Scott. Eliza was from a
very good family. She sometimes described as like a debutante, and this was considered a very advantageous marriage for Sharp. He had accomplished a great deal already by what was in his early thirties. He owned a lot of land, He was an enslaver, he owned a lot of people, and he had a pretty impressive legal and political career, but marrying Eliza gave him connections to society. The next major player in the story was Anne Cook. Her name is spelled a number of ways, depending on the source.
Sometimes it's just a N N, other times and with an e on the end, or even Anna ending in an A. Her exact date of birth is not known. She was born in Virginia sometime in the mid seventeen eighties. Estimates put it around seventeen eighty six. Her parents were
Giles and Alicia Cook. Anne was their first daughter. They already had four sons when she was born, and they had at least one additional son and daughter after Giles died in the early eighteen hundreds, and at that point Alicia moved along with Anne and her siblings to Warren County, Kentucky. By that point, some of Anne's brothers were adults, they
had their own young families. They all moved together. The reason the whole family moved to Warren County was that Giles had also been a land speculator, and he had purchased a lavish estate property complete with it enslaved workforce in Kentucky before his death, so the whole family moved there.
The third person in this story is Jeroboam Beecham. He was born to a Kentucky farm family in September eighteen oh two, so he was the youngest of the three people involved here by more than a decade. Though his father, Thomas Beecham, was a farmer, Jeroboam had relatives in politics, and he started studying law in eighteen twenty sometime in the eighteen teens in Bowling Green and Cross Paths with Colonel Sharp. Anne's life had included a lot of tragedy
in the years after she moved to Kentucky. While things had initially gone pretty well, three of her brothers had died in less than three years, and she met the Sharps through some mutual acquaintances. While those sad events were playing out.
Apparently, she had some degree of friendship with Eliza Sharp, she visited her at home on several occasions.
Anne got pregnant in the autumn of eighteen nineteen. She gave birth in May or June of eighteen twenty. That baby is usually reported as having been stillborn, although there are some accounts that suggest that it died shortly after it was born. At the time, Anne, who was unmarried and not romantically tied to anyone, claimed that the father was Solomon Sharp. Anne did not really follow up on this claim, though, or seek any acknowledgment of it on
Sharp's part. In June of eighteen twenty one, Colonel Sharp decided to run for public office again. This time he was running for a state Senate seat, and his political opponents chose to bring up this allegation that Cook had raised in an effort to discredit him. He was also accused of land fraud. During the campaign, these two accusations were often bundled together in criticism of Sharp, but then fate intervened and seemed to offer a way for Sharp
to sidestep all of this. He was offered the state attorney general position by Governor John Adair after the governor's first choice for that role declined that though meant that Sharp had to go through confirmation, and of course, these same accusations again came up during that confirmation, but after a Senate committee investigation, they found no wrongdoing, and Sharp
was confirmed as Attorney General. Meanwhile, in eighteen twenty one, Jeroboam Beecham finished his law degree and moved home to his father's house for a little break while he prepared for the bar. And he soon met a nearby neighbor that was Anne Cook, who had moved to the rural area with her mother. Anne and Jeroboam started a courtship, and soon Jeroboam proposed. The pair waited until he passed the state bar exam in eighteen twenty three to move
forward with their wedding plans. In eighteen twenty four, they were married, Jereboah moved to the farmhouse that Anne shared with her mother.
We'll pause here for a sponsor break, and when we come back, we'll talk about how all of this unraveled. So at the point we left off before the break, it kind of seemed like everyone's lives were pretty settled. Sharp had his Attorney General position, and the newlywed Beechams were starting their life together. But then Sharp decided he wanted to run for a state legislator position in eighteen
twenty five. There is a whole story about how and why that decision was made and we're going to give a super abbreviated version of it, because this whole affair could be its own episode as well. It involves a lot of political arguing about legislation that had been passed as part of a relief effort to help farmers in the state of Kentucky who had faced economic hardship and potential foreclosures, and then that legislation was rejected on a
legal appeal. Following that failed appeal, the sitting judges were all dismissed by the Kentucky General Assembly and an entirely new court was appointed. At that point, lawmakers of Kentucky split pretty hard into two factions, the so called Old Court Party and the New Court Party. Sharp was a member of the New Court Party. Sharp had been right in the middle of that conflict, and he thought he could support his position better as a legislator than as
an attorney general. That position had been kind of a straddling of the fence on this issue. Once he entered the race, though, the allegations about his relationship with Anne Cook and the paternity of her child surfaced again. Sharp vehemently denied these allegations, as he had when they circulated previously.
Soon after these allegations came back up, a counter rumor began to spread that the deceased child had been of mixed race, suggesting that it could not possibly have been Sharp's and also insinuating that Anne had a sexual relationship with a black man. It was believed, though denied, that Sharp's camp had started that rumor regarding Anne's baby's race, though there were also claims that her midwife had provided the Sharp family with a sworn document backing that rumor.
But despite all of this gossip and mudslinging, Solomon Sharp won his election the day the Legislative Assembly was to begin. November seventh, eighteen twenty five, Solomon Sharp and his wife Eliza were awakened at approximately two a m. By somebody knocking at their door. They were claiming to be somebody that the couple knew who was in need of lodging. When questioned through the door, this person said that all the local taverns were full and that he needed a
bed for the night. Here is how things played out from there. According to the paper the frankfort Argus quote, Colonel Sharp told him he should have a bed and opened the door. The assassin entered and passed with Colonel Sharp by the door of Missus Sharp's room. He then asked her you Colonel Sharp. The colonel answered in the affirmative. The assassin then said, my name is John A. Covington.
Colonel Sharp replied, I do not know you. The assassin said, damn you, you shall soon know me and plunged the fatal weapon into his body. Colonel Sharp groaned and fell to the ground, and when Eliza heard that, she jumped out of bed and ran to him. Sharp's brother, Leander, who also lived in the home, heard the noise as well and ran to see what it was. Sharp died from his stab wound just a few minutes after the attack,
without saying a word to his wife or brother. The only clue left at the scene was a bloody handkerchief. It was believed that it had been used first to conceal the knife and then to wipe the blade After the stabbing. The assailant had run out through the same door that he entered, with neither of Sharp's surviving relatives having seen any detail of his face, they could only report that it had been a tall man wearing dark clothes.
A man hunt began immediately, and the trustees of Frankfort put up one thousand dollar reward quote for the purpose of apprehending the monster who committed this diabolical act. In addition to that, the state governor, with an authorization from the state legislature, offered another three thousand dollars quote for the apprehension.
Of the murderer of Colonel Sharp. Although Sharp had just been part of a very polarized election cycle at a time when Kentucky was very much divided, the community galvanized over his murder, and even his most intense rivals and detractors condemned the murder and called for justice.
While suspicion had briefly fallen on one of Sharp's political rivals, eventually Beecham was the person who came into focus. He was known to have been in Frankfurt the night before the murder. He had apparently left the lodgings where he was staying in the middle of the night, and then he had left the following morning. News of the attack had already broken when he left, and while everyone else in town was aghast and discussing Sharp's death, Beecham was disinterested,
to the point that people thought it was odd. Additionally, he had threatened Sharp on several occasions when rumors about his seduction of Anne had circulated. As citizens of the area pieced these bits of information together, a group formed up and went to his and Ann's farm in the next county to apprehend him. He was brought back to Frankfurt on November fifteenth and formally arrested once he arrived there.
There was plenty of testimony at the ready regarding Jereboam Beaucham, but physical evidence was a lot harder to come by. He did have a knife when he was taken in, but that knife could not be conclusively tied to the murder. The knife wound on Sharp's body was a lot wider than the blade of Beecham's knife. Furthermore, it was not the least bit odd at this time and place for
a man to be carrying a knife. The handkerchief that had been found at the scene had been picked up by the posse that followed Beacham home, but then it had been lost on the journey. So the strongest piece of evidence against Beacham was Eliza Sharp, who identified his voice as that of the attacker. But Beaucham declared his innocence from the moment he was taken in. He was adamant that he had never threatened Sharp, and he wrote to a number of people hoping for help in the matter.
One of those people has come up on the show before that was lawyer and politician George M. Bibb, whose family recovered in July of twenty twenty two. Beecham told bib who had been a close friend of Sharp's, that he was being framed. I have penciled that bib episode in as a Saturday Classic forthcoming for people who are interested. That might sound far fetched, not the Saturday Classic what Holly just said, Tracy, really, but there were people who
believed it, and with pretty good reason. In the middle of all the tumult that had been going on in Kentucky politics, there had been instances of violence, like basically fisticuffs, and some of Sharp's friends and allies in the legislature thought it was possible that his political enemies could have taken things farther in an effort to eradicate a powerful
opponent to their agendas. One of Sharp's friends named Amos Kendall, who would eventually become post Master General of the United States ran the argus of Western America, and he used his platform to accuse Sharp's rivals of goading Beacham on by making sure those rumors about Sharp and stayed circulating. He even accused specific politicians of going directly to Beacham
to talk about these rumors. There were implications that some of these men had been near Sharp's house in the early morning of November seventh, insinuating that they had urged Beacham to take action.
We are going to get to Beacham's trial, but before we do, we will hear from the sponsors that keep stuff unissed in history class going. During the grand jury hearing, which found cause to move forward with a trial, but not enough evidence to suggest that anyone other than Beecham be charged, Jeroboam's attorney, John Pope, asked if they could postpone the trial for a while so they would have time to put together their case. That was honored, and
this trial was set for May the following year. When it began on May eighth, eighteen twenty six, Jeroboam Beacham pled not guilty.
During the trial, which was prosecuted by Charles Bibb. Just to keep the bib family in the mix. One of the interesting pieces of testimony came from Patrick H.
Darby.
Darby was one of the men who had been accused of stirring up Jeroboam and inciting him to murder. His testimony indicated that he had met with Beecham, but that he hadn't known who the defendant was when they met.
Darby claimed that while the two men both happened to have stopped at the same roadside well while traveling, Beacham broached the subject of the purported sexual relationship between Sharp and Anne and told Darby that Sharp had basically offered him a bribe, with that being money, an enslaved girl, and property if they would just drop.
It and leave him alone.
But he had never delivered on the promised items, and Jeroboam was hoping to enlist Darby to help him get what he was owed. Darby testified that he refused to do this and that at that point Beacham said he would kill Colonel Sharp, and cross examination, defense attorney Pope pointed out that Beaucham's conviction would help Darby and his political allies get out of hot Water, so his testimony
should be considered questionable. Darby also brought another witness into the case that was Anne and Jerebouham's neighbor named low The neighbor stated that when Jereboam had returned to his farm from Frankfort, he had been waiving a red flag and claiming victory, but he had not discussed with the defendant what that actually meant. Lowe also stated that he had letters from Beacham that incriminated him. These letters were not miss that included a plan to murder Sharp, they
had been written after Beacham was arrested. They were incriminating because they included detailed directives on the story that Jereboam would like low to tell in court, including that Anne had not been the one to introduce the rumor of the affair with Sharp, but that it had been concocted by one of his political rivals, John Waring. Yeah, Pope really tried to have this letter struck, and it did not hold up because it obviously made the defendant look
very bad. Throughout this trial, which went on for two weeks, every aspect of the case was of course addressed and debated in detail. Witness testimony, though, was largely contradictory, with just about anything introduced by the prosecution countered with an
opposite account from a defense witness. Everything from the issue of the size of the knife to the disappearing bloody handkerchief was discussed, and there too, in those pieces of physical evidence, or lack thereof, the expert test testimony from each side contradicted the other. There was no physical evidence of the actual crime. It was all circumstantial, and the only sticking point remained Eliza Sharp's insistence that Jereboam's voice was the one she had heard at their door the
night her husband was murdered. This case went to the jury at five pm on Friday, May nineteenth. At about six pm, just an hour later, the verdict was read guilty. For a while, it seemed like Anne might also be charged.
Their neighbor.
Low had more to say about this. This was actually precipitated by Jereboham's defense counsel, who introduced the possibility of Anne being a more active participant as a way to postpone the sentencing. Lowe told the judges that Anne had told him that she had helped plan this murder, and she detailed the various ways that they had gone about learning the layout of the sharp holme acquiring she and a knife that were different from her husband's personal items.
Things like that.
Lowe also told the judges that Darby's testimony about a bribe to silence the Beachams was not correct and that no such deal had ever been offered. But although this was compelling and a dramatic development, it was determined that Anne had not been materially responsible for the murder, so she was not charged. That same day, Jerebohen was sentenced to death. Yeah, so much of this trial hung on the testimony of their neighbor, low who was a person that Darby had found and said, I think you know
about this case. It's also convoluted and dramatic and a lot of machinations.
So much of it.
I'm like this seems like hearsay to me.
Huh. The date of the execution was set for June sixteenth, but Beecham asked for a postponement because he wanted to write something. Surprisingly, this quest was honored and the new date of execution was set for July seventh. Jereboham returned to his cell to write, and his wife and joined him. She stayed with him throughout the rest of his life. While an appeal was attempted, it did not gain traction. And this is where Beecham's story seems to have just
changed abruptly. Almost from the moment that he was sentenced. People started reporting that he was telling people that he had in fact been the murderer. This information was relayed to the press, which just ran with it. Simultaneously, he started to write the thing that he had in mind, which opens as follows, quote, I am this day condemned to die by my country's laws. My country has extended the limited time first fixed for my existence on earth, in order that I might write an account of the
causes which have led to my death. He goes on to confess in this document, but also to justify his actions in doing so, quote, I die for pursuing what the dictates of my clearest and most deliberate judgment had determined it was at least justifiable in me to do, if not my duty to do, and for which no guilty pang of conscience has ever yet reproved me, or the certain prospect of death made me feel the least regret.
And if my death teaches a respect for the laws of my country, my example will be not less serviceable in teaching a respect for those laws of honor to revenge the violation and outrage of which I so freely die. The writing indicates that Jereboham intended for there to be a didactic outcome from the murder and the trial. Writing quote, the death of Colonel Sharp at my hands will teach two lessons not altogether uncalled for by the present moral
and political state of society in Kentucky. It will teach a certain class of heroes, who make their glory to consist in triumphs over the virtue and the happiness of worthy unfortunate orphan females, to pause sometimes in their mad career and reflect that though the deluded victim of their villainy may have no father to protect or avenge her, yet some friendly arm may sooner or later be nerved
by her to avenge her blighted prospects. The second lesson Beecham felt the colonel's death might impart was this quote. My example, or rather that of Colonel Sharps, will also teach the unprincipled politician in his career of ambition, that if his dishonor has driven from society and buried in a living grave, an unfortunate female who had fallen a
victim to his villainy. It may be better to lie under the reproach of her seduction than to hazard adding further insult to so deep an injury, slander and detraction to such an outrage upon on every human feeling. One aspect of Beecham's sentence that fascinated the public at the time and frankly a lot of people since, was that Anne made no secret that she wished to have the
same fate as her husband. Jeroboam also wrote about this in his confession, noting, quote, my wife is, I know, inflexible in her determination that as I die for her, she will die with me. I have no motive to conceal the part which she has acted, the more especially as she insists to let the world know all the agency she has had in bringing about a revenge for the deep, indelible wrong which Colonel Sharp had done her and her family.
On July fifth, Anne administered what she thought would be a fatal dose of laudanum to both herself and to Jereboam. She had snuck the laudanum into the cell, concealing it in her clothing. It was not a fatal dose, and she and Jereboham were both put on suicide watch, but it doesn't appear that anybody searched her at that time. Because she still had more laudanum with her, she took that, but rather than killing her, it just caused her to vomit.
Two days later, on the seventh, which was the date that Jeroboum was to be executed, the pair asked for some time alone. They were not supposed to be left unattended, but for some reason the jayler agreed. Anne still determined that they should die together, and, once again with contraband in her possession that no one had managed to notice, pulled out a knife and stabbed herself in the chest.
She also convinced Jeroboam to stab himself. He stabbed the knife into his abdomen, but apparently did not hit any vital organs. His wound was not fatal, and hers was. She died an hour after the stabbing, with her husband by her side. She had been removed from the cell, but they allowed him to come to where they had her when they realized she was about to expire. He reportedly stated as he watched her past quote. I wish doctor Sharp was here. I wish he was here to
behold this spectacle. Her last words, as reported in the local newspaper, were, Oh, my husband, I die for my husband. Beecham was taken to the gallows in the early afternoon. He was composed, He asked for some water and for the attending bands to play Bonaparte's Retreat from Moscow, and then he was hanged. After the execution, newspapers ran the story with an introductory paragraph that read, quote, the tragic scene has closed and the curtain has fallen over the
murderer of Colonel Solomon P. Sharp. The trial, conviction and confession of guilt and execution of Jereboam Oh Beecham for the murder and suicide of Anne Beacham formerly Anne Cook, who was privy to and instigated her husband to the murder of Sharp.
It was also after the execution that Jeroboam's confession became public, and writing it, it appears that he was hoping the contents would lead to his sentence being commuted, or even that he might be pardoned. He did not claim innocence in the murder, but he invoked Darby's involvement, and this confession also had some bombshells. A big one was that he said he had heard about the rumors regarding Sharp and Cook and had subsequently orchestrated a way to meet
her shortly after they had become acquainted. He said he had confronted Sharp about it, but that Sharp had gotten away from him, and that this had happened four years before the murder. Then he described how his desire to kill Sharp was a big part of the bond that he shared with Anne. He wrote that at one point he and Anne tried to lure Sharp to their house with a fake lead on a land claim, hoping that
they could kill him there, but Sharp didn't come. What emerges is a tale of two people deeply intent on getting revenge.
Yeah. His version of why they didn't get married until eighteen twenty four was that initially Anne told him he had to kill Sharp before she would marry him. Like there's a hole wild what their relationship really was that plays out in this confession. But another version of the events was written down by Colonel Sharp's brother, doctor Leander Sharp. This was titled Vindication of the Character of the Late Colonel Solomon P. Sharp. And the Leander account, actually, like
the other, does place the blame on Darby's shoulders. It strongly suggests that he was actually the one that started the rumors of Sharp and Ann Cook's affair, and it also reiterates the story that her deceased child had been of mixed race. One of the things that does give Leander Sharp's account a bit more weight in the eyes of many historians is the fact that he worked pretty
diligent to collect evidence. He collected accounts from various witnesses, he gained sworn testimonies, he actually ran down a lot of leads, and he included all of this in his work. But this version of events was suppressed due to pressure from Darby, and it only came to light decades later when the manuscript was found in the Sharp home.
Yet another publication did see public release in eighteen twenty six, and it was The Letters of Anne Cook. This salacious collection of missives was popular with a public that wanted to condemn the behavior of everyone involved in this tragedy, but also wanted to learn all of the juicy details in private. This publication was almost certainly a fake, not real letters and had written, although it has been referenced a lot of times by people as though it were legitimate in the last two centuries.
As noted in the book Murder and Madness, the Myth of the Kentucky Tragedy, which was written by Matthew Schoenbackler in two thousand and nine, quote, most of what we do know about the Kentucky Tragedy comes from three remarkable documents, the published proceedings of Beacham's murder trial, Beacham's confession, and a vindication of Solomon Sharp, written by his devoted brother,
doctor Leander Sharp. Since the Sharp and Beacham writings contradict each other, and the trial account likely contains testimony that was purposely false, we're kind of left to puzzle out for ourselves whether this was truly a crime of honor bound vengeance, or just the result of political machinations.
In nineteen sixty seven, the Kentucky Historical Society had a marker placed at the grave of Jereboam and Anne, which takes a pretty starry eyed stance. The front of that marker reads Romantic eighteen twenty five tragedy Jereboam Beacham and wife Anna buried here in same coffin at own request to avenge her alleged seduction by Colonel Solomon Sharp. B. H. Jim murdered him match Sharp's Frankfort home eighteen twenty five.
Beacham and Anna were held in Frankfort jail. She was released but joined her husband in his cell, refusing to be separated even by force. He was sentenced to hang. The back of the marker reads quote. On execution day, they attempted suicide by stabbing themselves. Her wound was fatal, but he lived to be hanged that day, the first legal hanging in Kentucky eighteen twenty six. Colonel Sharp's political
prominence caused case to have widespread newspaper publicity. Edgar Allan Poe and many other authors wrote of the tragedy inspired by Beecham's deep devotion and love.
It's such a romanticized version. A fascination with this case does seem to be never ending. Fiction has, as referenced in that marker, drawn from it many times. Social and legal analysts have continued to break down the details of the case and examine it through various lenses over the years. One of the angles that I didn't see considered or talked about very often. Was put forth by Dixon D. Bruce, Junior in his two thousand book The Kentucky Tragedy, A
Story of Conflict and Change in Antebellum America. In the book, Bruce notes the cultural context of Beacham's crime quote, Kentucky could be a violent place in the eighteen twenties. It was a place where people gave credence to a strict and bloody code of honor that, among other things, provided little room for despoiling a woman's character, as Sharpe is said to have done, and virtually demanded the kind of
violent retribution Beacham exacted. Thus, to a great extent, the code served to frame how people understood the Beecham Sharp affair at the time and how they have continued to interpret its significance. Bruce also notes, as others have, that it's impossible to find any contemporary writings about the events involved that isn't biased. So the only truths that we could really hang on to are the few components that are consistent from account to account. Oh, we got a
whole thing to talk about on Friday. We sure knew about poems. Okay, do you have a listener mail I do. We have gotten a lot of emails about our Library of Congress episode, and I want to read them all because they're really good. But I really wanted to read this one in the hopes of wishing someone the best possible good fortune going forward. This is from our listener Katie, who says, Hello, Holly and Tracy. Longtime listener, first time emailer.
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