The Future of Stink

not touch us, so the sign says and uh. And and you can also generally cannot see us, unless I guess if you if you pull up a picture of this, you can sort of get a little you can engage your your sense of sight a little bit with a podcast or if we have visual aids, such as with the the Art podcast that we did, and we had a blog post that went along with it, so you could look up the different artists as we went along. But still you're not you're not watching us podcast. Uh.

And you and you also cannot smell us. You cannot smell the podcast chamber. And that's probably a good thing generally. Well, and I'm not saying anything about your funk or my fun you're saying that some of the other podcasters kind of smell. No, I'm not saying that sometimes there is half eaten food in here. That's usually my half eaten banana.

I may have to take credit for these things, but no, yeah, we're we're talking about the fact that there are limits um to technology we think so far in terms of expressing all five senses. I used to think there were no limits, but but now I fear that there are no limits in the future. Well, I mean, let's talk

a little bit about this. And in the past, people have tried to um to layer these senses in different media, like smellvision for instance, and and we we had a whole podcast where we talked about the power of smell and the importance of smell and and smell is is one of the more one of our more primal instincts and one of our more powerful and and as we've mentioned before, it's the one sent out of the five that interacts directly with the brain. So it's a powerful

scent to be omitted from any of your media. But generally the technology hasn't been here, but we have actually tried in the past. Uh, most notably h is of course, Smell a Vision in h in nineteen sixty, but before that, the first recorded use of smell in the theater was nineteen sixteen at the Family Theater in Forest City, Pennsylvania. Uh. And this was during a Rose Bowl game. And so they had the scent of rose oil piped in, which you know, and it's really low tech, like they had

a cotton ball that's saturated with rose oil. Yeah. Uh. And then they had a fan that was blowing it into the audience. Yeah. And that's pretty pretty low tech. And then some of the technologies today are about that level. But Smell a Vision, of course, is the one that

everybody remembers. Um. This came around nineteen sixty and it was the mention of this guy, Mike Todd Jr. Who was the son of a really accomplished producer by the name of Michael Todd who produced around the world in eighty days, you know, made it, made some nice bank off of that, but then died. And so his son invests his inheritance in this concept of all a vision thing, this is gonna be the next big thing. And again

on paper, it kind of sounds cool. It's like, you know, this is an age where it's like, all right, we got talking in our movies. Now we're talking, We're we're looking at it. You know what else can we do? You know, can we make we can There's the whole thing with a Tingler about making the seats vibrate. And as we see today, you know, everybody keeps like up in the Annie three d um, etcetera. So you can

imagine the guys thinking, all right, smells pretty important. If I can somehow incorporate smell into the motion picture experience, that's gonna put even more butts and seats. Right, So the unleashed smell a vision on an unsuspecting public. H

and it's kind of a disaster. Um. They only use it for one film under the Smell a Vision Moniker, and that was a film by the name of Scent of Miss of a Mystery, which interestingly enough, star Denholm Elliott, you know, of course from Raiders of the Lost Art the British guy and Peter Lori, yeah voice, can you do a Peter Lori re help me please? Rick? Yes, that that's the one. Yeah, yeah, wow, okay, I nailed it. Yeah,

you did nailed it. Um and uh. And so that then they had like all sorts of cool catch phrases for it, like first they moved, then they talked, now they smell. In nineteen sixty like, finally we we have we have the trifecta of senses engaged with their motion pictures, and a new age of cinema is about to begin. But of course it didn't because it didn't really work all that well. There was there was some slight delay with the smells, like the smell was supposed to hit

so it was the smell of a fresh casserole. There was not a casserole in the movie. But just give you an example. Imagine if on the screen that they present a fresh cast role and then like several seconds later, the scent fresh cast role hits you people during the sex scene and like whoa, what chicken casserole? And then you know, I don't know, Sophia Lauren is doing something that's just weird. Yeah, that level of things happening, and you know, so that you'd have the smells out of sync.

Um other some of the theater's got the smell like really loud, like right in the face. Other areas couldn't get it. So it just wasn't all that well. Implemented. Yeah, I mean these are we're talking about cartridges on a belt, right, and they're being pierced by needles during certain scenes. And we're also talking about this hissing sound that it would make sometimes too. This is what I've read that would be really distracting. So people are like, what is going on?

I'm just trying to watch this movie and I'm being inundated here. Yeah. So it's like you'd be watching a film and a guy would be like, would you like a cup of coffee? And it's like, no, I don't really want any coffee because I really need to finish this sandwich first, and then you know, every little thing. Yeah, but I will tell you that if Casablanca had had smell a Vision, and you know, of course with Peter Laurie, I would be happy to to experience that with smell

a Vision. Why what do you think Peter Laurie smelled like? Well, no, I mean they're not Peter Laurie specifically, but you've got the spice market going on. Um, you know, it's hot human. I could see where it could have been an interesting bouquet. Um. Now, I would feel that Bogart would have probably smelled kind of weird where and like cigars. Yeah, I mean, I

guess that could be a good smell. But also I think Lorie might have actually smelled good because he seems like the kind of guy who you know, he would realize he would need to have the smells all on, impeccably dressed. Yeah. Yeah um. And then, of course, in homage to Smell a Vision, American film director John Waters

alice an enhanced Odorama version of his film Polyester in Yeah. Now, this was more akin to the scent test that we went through in the last oh right, the one where you made me smell David Beckham's foot right off of a card, numbered cards, Because that's the same way it worked with John waters piece Polyester footles, I should say, yeah. He Basically, each audience member had ten cards numbered one through ten, and they had smells such as flowers, pizza, glue, gas, grass,

and of course feces. Oh right, right, Because if you're gonna if you're gonna implement smellvision, you need to go for the full, the full bouquet of Now, for anybody who who is John Waters fan, maybe you'll agree with me that pink flamingos should have been when where he had smell Avision where the main character actually eats feces, Because then, I mean, seriously, I mean, if you're trying to trump up the dramatic moment and watch someone eat feces and then smell it, that's that's going to do

it right there, there you go. Yeah, Waters was Waters is around, Uh such a like a classy sleeves bag. I love that about it. You know a few people can pull that off to be both classy and sleazy and and make both work. Um and I and I

think he would probably agree with that. Then there was also in n the BBC of course, did that hoax with the smell a vision where they told the viewers the April Fool stage and they told them that they could they could smell through the TV of sliced onions brewing coffee and invited viewers at home to confirm the sense uh that we're emanating from their television set by by writing in about it. And people did I just

you know, testimony to the power suggestion. People were like, oh, I could totally smell the onions in the coffee, and it was it was all a gag. Placebo smells right, Yeah, it's kind of interesting. So for the most part though, this is you know, it's just received a few token nods to the possibility of smell uh in our cinema, the most recent one, uh being the more recent spy kids movie All the Time in the World that when

I had scratch and sniff cards. So it's like, you know, again, we're in that age where people are like, what can we do to up the Annie three D? All right, let's try smells. See if that works. Now. One area of entertainment where it seems like you you we've seen a lot more um smell engagement has been the haunted house, the professional haunted house. And I'm not talking about like the one put on like the local arch in the small or some club yeah, or some club you know,

or just because right, or your neighbors. I mean haunted houses. I think I may have discussed it before. It's it's a pretty complex thing when you get it down to it, Like the actual business of it, it looks easy. So you have every year you'll have people come along and say, like, I can do a hunted house. I just see people lining up and handing out some money. I can do

that too, but there's there's a lot more involved. There's a there's sort of a science of scaring and uh, and they generally that the better ones will try and hit you on various levels. They'll try and so they're throwing startling sounds at you. There's they're throwing weird textures at you under underneath your feet, and of course they'll

try and engage your smell, your sense of smell. Yeah, lay some of these honest, because uh, these are very interesting and I haven't been to a haunted house in years. Oh yeah, well, well we actually have a really good one, uh here in the Atlanta area, the nether World Haunted House. Yeah, I've heard that one's good. Yeah. One of the guys who does it, this guy Billy messina Um, who I've

met a time or two, like mutual friends. Uh. He actually worked special effects on such films as Judge, Dread, basket Case too, and uh the seminal favorite uff Franken Hooker. So frank Hooker. That's a fine one. Yeah. But but but anyway, it's a really cool hunted house and they will hit you with these smells. So I looked into this because because we were like, well maybe we can implement that here at the house. Stuff works, so you can get a professional sent machine for about seventy sounds

good so far. Yeah, there's some cheaper options, but I figure, if if we're going to do this, let's do it right, let's do it big. And then there are just there's just a plethora of different smells and smell combinations you can purchase for use in these machines, and they range from things such as like uh oh, there's like wedding bouquet, peaches, sunshine, fruity um, grass, ocean and those are great. But if

that sounds scary, it's exactly right. That's I guess, you know, because if you're only gonna have your hunted house once a year or for one month out of the year, you might want to try and at other times, so you can buy these other smells. But the scary smells, that's that's where it gets interesting. Stuff Like one manufacturer makes urine, sulfur, flatulence, body odor, smelly feet, bad breath.

But then there's another um manufacturer who really uh sexes up the titles, so you get stuff like burning electrical um, candy cane, dead rat um. Oh, this is the one I really like prehistoric poop because that has a we all know what prehistoric poops nostrils. Hell Um, swamp, you're in, swamp you're in, not that there's not really a swamp here in one, but you could combine the two your own like swamp urine and and stinky feet prehistoric poop mill. Do you know you can just go nuts with it? Um?

So yeah, you can find these online if you were interested enough to want to, you know, up the game at your own household or church operated haunted house. This sounds like a clan of try up version of like the Barbie perfume maker. Are you familiar with us? This is something I got my youth, and I actually really liked it. I hated Barbies and anyway, I won't go into that, but this I love because your kid create all these horrible smells and it's like a chemical lab

for the Barbie. Yeah. Yeah, but you know, I proposed that somebody go out there and make this for for a remake. This is some sort of ghoulish thing for kids out there, because I think they would love it. Well. I remember there being like stink toys when I was a kid. Yeah, I don't know if they assume they

had something like this in the US. But I was a kid at the time in Canada and Newfoundland, Canada actually, and I remember visiting some town and they're being like a little you know, junk shop there, you know, I mean just in everything shop. They had some junkie toys variety store, and I ended up obtaining a some sort of stink toy and I think it was like some sort of little monster and the big cell on the package with it it smells like rotten eggs, and so

at a certain age, that's awesome, you know. Yeah, No, I'm still kind of excited about it. I mean, the ability to mix all of those would be great fun. Right, Okay, But here's the question, you know, getting to the technology of today. Would you want that smell emanating from your cell phone? Right? Yeah? This is where it really gets interesting because I remember these technologies we're talking about here. It basically involves the use of primary odors to create

other odors. Basically, this Barbie kit you're talking about combined this with that or maybe and they smelled awful by the way, but but that's the idea of like using five or six maybe even basic smells out of hundreds only we're talking hundreds of primary odors in these palates, right, and we know just from the research we did on the Other Smell podcasts of fifteen thou smells that have been identified out there, right, So this would be very much of a first step and uh and kind of

an approximate attempt to create some of these smells, these odors out of primary odors. Uh. And so you would you would be able to input all right, say it's um the smell of fresh pumpkin pie. Yea. So it would then input several primary odors such as I'm I'm guessing like maybe if there's a pumpkin primary odor, some sort of a cinnamon primary Is it cinnamon it's in pumpkin pie? No, it's nutmeg, Like nutmeg is a primary odor. And maybe like some sort of buttery smell as a

primary odor. I don't know. But but then those those three would get implemented together into pumpkin pie. That's right. And so in Japan there's ant T communications, so cell phone owners are able to download a fragrance playlist or files of recipes for specific smells along with visual and or audio. So we're talking about you know animation or

mini content from imodes mobile website. The service uses a handsets infrared port to transfer the fragrance data to a dedicated device similar to a plug in air freshener that's loaded with a cartridge of base fragrances what you're talking about. The device then mixes them to create the chosen smell, which it then waffs out, accompanying the audio or visual content that's played on the phone. So you can again you can share your your playlist with friends who also

subscribe to the service. You can also use it remotely, so you can say via your your cell phone, Hey, when I get home, I want the whole house to wreak of chocolate chip cookies and it will do that for you. That's be let down when there are no actual chocolate chip cookies. So I know, right, but but you know, hey, if you if that's the way you want to roll ino, you know, you want to stick up your house with various sense, then you can do it.

Um n T T do como device. This is a device along with the phone, can also analyze your breath and tell tell you how much fat you've burned off and how hungry you maybe so it goes the other way, right and a emit smells and also analyzes it. So we're outsourcing our ability to know what size snack we

should have. Yeah. Actually, there's an image analyzer, or you can take a picture of the food you're about to eat and it will go through the database of like foods and tell you what the approximate chloric information is. Huh yeah, so okay that you can have some smells through your phone, but you can also have stinky tweets. Oh yeah. This is the OLLI by Mint Digital and Foundry,

And the idea here is this is a device. You can think of it as a smell printer that hooks up to your your computer and you would have it set off to where not only would you maybe get like a little um audio sound when you received a tweet, you would get a smell like what does a tweet smell like? I don't know, maybe a bird nest? Well, it depends on who's tweeting. You can you can actually customize it, customize it so that Oh, so let's say Rain Wilson does a tweet, like, what would Rain Wilson's

tweets smell like? I don't know, I just don't know him that well at all. I mean, I don't know him at all. No, but he's on Twitter. You don't know these people at all. But that's the thing, you because I don't know what sort of personal scent. But let's say that you're you know, sister or your uncle

tweeted you could make some sort of aroma. And in fact, they were making fun of this on NPRS game show Wait Wait, don't tell me, and they said, Okay, um, you know, got a Facebook message from grandma, mix genete with Virginia Slims or your college roommates. Tweets could smell like fresca and regret sex. The smells aren't gonna be that nuanced. Yeah, well, well what would what would what would our tweets smell like? What would stuff? With all your minds? Tweets can force a smell I don't know,

like patuli entire treads. I'm kidding, I'm kidding. That's like the last thing we would smell like. I hope I would hope. So I don't know. Maybe I would just go with pumpkin pie. I keep coming back to pumpkin pie. Maybe because it's November. Yeah, yeah, you're anticipating there. It's all suggestion. UM. So all right, we're gonna take a quick break and when we get back, we're going to talk about online dating and smells. This podcast is brought to you by Intel, the sponsors of Tomorrow and the

Discovery channel at Intel. We've leave Curiosity is the spark which drives innovation. Join us at Curiosity dot com and explore the answers to life's questions. And we're back. Let's talk about some more about these smellable tweets. Yeah, so the smellable tweets again. You can customize this. You've got a little device that's going to admit the smell, right, and it can be a Facebook update, can be a tweet,

it can be pretty much anything. Um. And how it works is actually this device has indexed thousands of smells based on their chemical structures and their place on the scent spectrum. Each sent is then coded and digitized into a small file, and then digital file is embedded in web content or email. A user request or triggers the file by clicking a mass or opening email, and then a small amount of the aroma is admitted by the

device and it stores a hundred and twenty cents. So again, this is pretty base when you are thinking about, you know, the fifteen thousand sins that are out there at least indexed, and they're talking about it being open source as well, so that would give every in the ability to create

new annoying smells to go with it. I mean, just the sky's the limited's kind of and and if they were able to implement a mobile version kind of going into the smell a phone thing, I mean, just think of every annoying cell phone ringtone that you've heard, not only the ones that come with the phones, but the custom ones especially. It can be so horrible. Imagine if

they smell too. Yeah, I know, I know, the potential for misuse is great on this, and we'll talk about that in a little bit, but let's talk about this odor matching. So yeah, a company called basis Note allows online datas to upload their scent profiles. And uh this is from the biologist and basis Note founder August Emily. He says, if everything fits, you have the same interest, lots to talk about, but you can stand there smell,

then a love affair doesn't stand a chance. So you know, makes sense that you would also be able to check out someone smell before you meet them, and it gives another area for people to lie on on the internet. Not only can you lie about what you're what you're into, and what you look like, but what you smell like as well. Well, here's how you would have to lie. You'd have to have someone else take a a lava test for you, because this is how they actually get

the coding for this. You take this lava test which is then carried out some sort of test at home through a chromatographic process, and it's similar to a pregnancy test and the result is this a simple digital code which then can be entered into your online profile. And the Scientific Compatibility System was launched on Swiss Friends dot c a just a Swiss dating site, and at press

time it costs about fifty dollars. But the reason why they're doing this is that evolutionary biologists says, there are our noses are really involved in choosing our partners and what you and I have talked about this before. We've heard about this at least peripherally and some of our research and we've talked about it. But this is basically saying that our nose probes whether or not the other

person has similar genes to us. Okay, because the more varied the gene pools are, the higher the chance for healthy, strong offspring. Your nose is detecting this and this is

just totally fascinating. It works like this, um the more major histocompatibility complex molecules you have, the better chance you have at bolstering your own immune system, since these molecules helped to create a defense reaction in your body, and these are called the MHC genes and humans there are more than a hundred variations of each of the nine of the nine most important MHC genes, and the more vary the MHC, the better the immune system of the

offspring will be armed. Okay, So, according to Hammerley the biologist, your specific body odor is actually marked by the MHC combinations that you have and then is transmitted in your bodily fluids and transformed into your your smell. So in theory, right, because I don't know, you know, to what extent this is really buttoned up that you could sniff out from another person and say, you know what, you're way too similar to me with your MHC content. It's not gonna

work for us. You know, this also brings to mind one possibility with the smell a vision, and that is in the same way that a stay successful actor will have a body double so that during a nude scene it will ensure that their body looks amazing. So in the future, perhaps they will also have odor doubles just

to ensure that they also smell amazing. Yeah, but I mean, are you saying like an online dating thing in an online dating sort of sense, Like some of that technology and some of that data make it see like what is the optimal smell that that men want to smell uh when contemplating an attractive woman and vice versa of

course for okay, so this is another sexual inaction. I totally get your saying, But again, like this is this sort of feeds my fear of how we are continuing to isolate ourselves and have virtual relationships with one another, which to some extent is fine, right, this is just sort of the world we live in. But what happens when you get down to just living in front of your computer and trying to state all five senses and

then creating these dummy sense to upload. I mean, it's sort of like your virtual self dating another virtual person, you know, ASSU mean that you don't really have a relationship a face to face, right, And so that's what I think is interesting about this technology is that you know, obviously it can be used with video games. It can

be used video games. Part really interested me. There's a one version of this so that's in the works supposedly, uh called Odor re Vision, and it's got from a French company called Old Faction UM and they have a verying on it called smell It. It's aimed at video games.

And I was looking through the list of some of the proposed smells because they have you know, like a couple of dozen of them, and they include things like precious would smell, um atmosphere, big machines, atmosphere, hospitals, smell of cakes, uh, smell naked body, scent of a woman, um, odor fabrics, the things of this nature. But but it had me wondering in both video games, I'm just laughing

about scent about naked woman. Scent of a naked woman. Well, you know, I don't I don't know how video game programmers figured out what that smells like. Oh yeah, um no no, But well, what this really makes me think about is some we we have we encounter violence and and sex in our films, and uh, and especially the violence in video games. It to some degree the sex or sexual sexuality, and uh, we end up having this

sterilized version of it, especially violence. So if we even even partaking of violence in a video game or witnessing violence in a movie, if we smelled the violence, if we smell blood, if we smelled decaying bodies, if we smelled someone dying and their bowels loosening with death, these kinds of things so specific and graphic, well, it's just

a reality, you know. I mean, if if we through, if we use this to make death more real when it occurs in our fiction and in our in our video games, I wonder if that would be a positive thing, because as it is, it's like when you know, blood is beautiful and red and it splashes everywhere, and these films and in these video games, what if you had

to actually smell it? I think it would kill the industry really because then because we know that emotion is evoked right from smells and empathy, I mean, all of these sort of things would be engaged. And one of the reasons why we like video games so much or even movies, is because we can remove ourselves, we can distance ourselves, and we can watch the action unfold without any sort of horrible results. Well, I mean it's like

zombie movies. Who would watch a zombie movie if you had to smell the reek of rotting corpses whenever the zombie showed up? Try it once? Yeah, well, it would definitely make it more horrific. It would be like the stink odors that they're shooting at you in the horror movie. And for that matter, um, when it comes to things like like pornography, if people had to if people watching pornography had to smell the smells of of what's going on,

would they be that into it? I don't know, well, especially if this biologist is correct in terms of a scent prile profile for each person. Um, you know, would you be someone's scent during sex sort of turn one person off or another? Of course, I think that what he's talking about in volution um or within within the context of evolution is really uh, it's pretty simplistic, right, because there's so many more things that are going on.

And maybe this is why you know, Match dot Com isn't using this technology right now because not necessarily everybody is looking for a lifelong partner right when they're using this, and you know it also, we don't really know the results of this born out at large um, but I was thinking of us, particularly with the video games too, that the smell of fear, and this is something we talked about with this little told us right that you know that the wall that she created with these nine

different sets of men's fears, you know, if you are piping that in with video game, I mean, that's that would be sort of horrific to to smell someone else's fear, right because you're not going to reject that it's just something that you smell. Yeah, if you're like smell, you're in a multiplayer setting and you're smelling the fear of your fellow players or your opponents, the kind of thing, especially with something like bomber Man, which is so cartoony.

But then if you were smelling fear during bomber Man,

that would be kind of crazy. Here's my greatest fear though, is that it's going to be used by marketers, like to the point where it's just you know, ad infinitum, where like you know, you've got a pop up screen of coca cola coming on and you can smell coca cola or something else, or baked goods, which could get really annoying, even if those are things that you like, you know, if you're just happy to be like surfing and you're like that smell again, yeah, or or scent hacking,

Like what if we reached the point where the house stuff works homepage smells like nint because I don't know, it seems like it's like, seems delightful, Yeah, but then some hackers come along and they make it smell like put the entire tread exactly exactly. That would be that would be kind of horrific, and that would be the kind of abuse you can expect that, my friend, are

the that that's that's the future smell right there? Yeah, But if I can come back to the whole digital world, like the other side of this too, is that so much is we leave more and more of our lives digitally, and we're we're taking it things in through through the Internet and through games and through movies. We're, like I said, we're getting that sterile version of it all where we're getting a version of it where an entire Uh, one

of our primary senses is cut off. Like, then what happens when we actually engage in uh, basically any activity in life and we were suddenly hit with the with the olfactory dimension of that experience as well? Like, what what does that do to us? You know? I don't know. It's interesting because there is this idea about the synthetic version versus the true version, and then again the repository of all of our experiences, our memories being evoked again,

our emotions by smells. So if you're manipulating them on a certain level that you know, this this this virtual level, and you're isolated, Yeah, what does that do to you you specifically specifically? Yeah, I don't know. We'll find out. Yeah, it's it's gonna be an interesting future, I think, because it seems like they'll probably not implement all of these things to the degree to which we're talking about, because

it's kind of like the smell vision factor. It's like it reaches the point, yes, we can make movies smell, but to what is they're actually an economic payoff? Yeah? Yeah, there's some fails they are, for sure, But we already know and we've talked about this before that in that retailers us this um quite a bit. You go into the Gap or any other major retailer, and most likely there's a very specific scent that has been made for

them to help you feel great about your purchase. Right to whatever extent it can be, it can be implemented and used to make money, it will be used. We can be sure of that your computer is gonna smell in the future. That's what we're saying. Yeah, no way around it, no way around it, and it won't just smell like all the snack macks that you've dropped into, which is nothing an unpleasant odor from no. No, there we go, the future of smell, the future of stink um.

We have a few quick listener mails that I'd like to read um and we're gonna so you'll stip in here and grab one. Okay, Drew's one from Timothy dear stb y M crew U, which is us. I've always thought of zombies as an expression of the other, as in the unthinking masses, sheapish crowds of people, etcetera. Uh. I believe this is why zombies are so fond of urban settings like these shopping mall or the state far

where crowds are so common. I also agree with the assessment that modern zombies have a parallel with modern work um, which often consists of repetition, requiring very little in the way of complex problem solving. In this way, they represent our horror of the mainstream drudgery of simple repetitive work in the absorption of our individually into the sheepish consumer culture.

Zombie hunting, therefore, is a radical expression of individuality. How ironic then, that zombies are such a wildly popular trend. Thanks for all, Thanks for all the great cast, Tim, And of course he was talking responding to our episode about apocalypse and our attraction to apocalypse and specifically our love with fare with zombie apocalypse. That so some some interesting thoughts there from Tim. We heard from listener Lindsay on Facebook and she says, you guys are rad exclamation

point um, which is good. I just listened to the Martyr podcast. It made me think of a few people I know who don't use any meds while getting their teeth worked on because they are in recovery from addiction their goal of sobriety. But it made me wonder about a connection with the history of self abuse equals higher through a pain threshold piece of your podcast, since addiction could could definitely be considered self abuse anyway, keep up

the great work. And that's that's interesting because I hadn't really I thought as much about that to Menion of when we were talking about individuals who say, um, you know, going to the dental office and don't want drugs use stones that there would be some individuals who would be opposed to it because they have a history with substance abuse. Likewise, you also have people who are straight edge right who were refused to take alcohol or drugs, and then how

does that impact their choices in there? Would they experience more pain? That's the question because if you have well, I don't know, I'm just sort of thinking out a lot of here. But if you've got the joke commune receptors and abuse them and they've you've released a lot of dopamine as a result, might your body best of train to be able to do that at well? I don't know. There things to think about. And if anybody out there is straight edge, I'd be in honest to hear,

what what's your relationship with pain? Just don't feel like you need to drop like, you know, a saw on your foot or anything. Don't don't, don't test your or a lead weight. Let's say that because the song on the phone is just a little bit too graphic. All right, Well, hey, if you want to share anything with this um, specifically, if you want to share anything about smells and the future of smells, you can find us on our Facebook

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