Listener Mail: Fume Cupboard

I was recently listening to your episode on the Universal Solvent, as is my habit, I was listening while at work. I'm a doctoral candidate in a chemical field, so in this instance that means I was working in a chemical lab. So color me surprised when I heard you mentioned piranha solution, which is an aqueous solution of sulfuric acid and hydrogen peroxide.

Not because you were wrong, but because piranha has been a normal part of my life and I never reflected on its peculiar properties and never considered them something special. So when it came up, I immediately walked over to the dedicated Piranha workspace in the lab and snapped a picture attached Roba put it in our document here. There's

no grand point I'm trying to make. I just figured you might get some enjoyment out of seeing a physical representation that some of the exotic topics you discuss are everyday stuff to others. Kind regards Jay and Jay is attached a picture of what is known as the Piranha fume cupboard, an absolutely beautiful cellar door of a pair of words, Yes and it's I should drive home that it does look very every day. This looks. This looks

very professional, very normal. It does not look like something that would you would find in a Bond villain layer or anything like that. But it's it's neat. Nonetheless, just a little snapshot of of everyday life involving Piranha fume cupboards. Yeah, one minute you're getting the groceries, the next minute you're working in the Piranha fume covered Okay, Rob, you want to do this? Next message from Anna, Yeah, this one

is a response to our episode on Subterines. This is a vault episode, um and it writes high Robert, Joe, and Seth, I enjoyed your recent vault episode on subterines. In the episode, you were amusing how it is kind of dumb that so many digging machines are called the mole when there are so many other digging creatures out there. I agree. I think a much better name would be the wombat. A wombat is basically a creature that already looks like some kind of industrial device designed by a

wacky engineer. It is as if they're trying to make a small tank that can dig, but it also has to be cute and furry. It has some extra whack features like backwards pouch so dirt doesn't get flicked in while digging, and cube shaped pooh. I believe that was a cube shape poo was an Ignoble Award winning um topic at one point. That's correct. They continue, and if you are going to design something to be used in battle, combat already rhymes with wombat. That rhymes, and you know

it rhymes. Thanks for all your great work. It keeps me entertained while I have to scan and date documents. This includes a lot of time removing staples, so I really appreciate something that keeps my mind active. Thanks Anna, Anna. We are so glad we could enliven your times at the Staple Mill. I wonder if we could do an episode on the stapler. The invention of the stapler perhaps

is that one that's like actually not interesting. We keep wondering if we're gonna like come across an invention like this at some point. Um, Yeah, I guess the thing is, I know we've looked into some before where they just don't catch our our fancy, but we haven't. Actually, I don't think we've actively researched the stapler yet. We'll take the stapler challenge. We'll see if we can make it work. Alright. This next message is from my Mia says, Hey, Joe

and Robert love the podcast. I was listening to your episode on the Comfort in the Box and your descriptions of anchor rights reminded me of the modern phenomenon of hikiko mori. Hikiko mori has been defined as a state that has become a problem by the late twenties that involves cooping oneself up in one's home and not participating in society for six months or longer. But that does not seem to have another psychological problem as its principal source.

Oh okay, so would that mean like, it's not necessarily agoraphobia or something else like that that has as a symptom staying at home, But it's just like the the act of staying cooped up at home by itself. I guess interesting. Yeah, I wonder anyway Maya goes on. Though not a religiously motivated ascetic lifestyle, there seemed to be a lot of similarities. Uh, talking about similarities to the anchoritic tradition. I hope you guys are safe over there, Maya. Rob.

Do you know anything about this this condition? Um? I don't know. I don't think I've looked at any anything about it before. Um, but it's it's interesting it. I wonder if it how much of it is tied to just sort of modern urban living, you know, and smaller environments that that people didn't to to to reside. And and of course, as we kind of mused in in that episode, I just wonder what impact the global pandemic

will have on this sort of thing moving forward, you know. So, I know it is a is a Japanese term that comes from the Japanese language, but I would assume that this is not just an isolated cultural phenomenon in Japan, but probably describes something that is has a broader reality in the world. Um, I would wonder if this kind of thing becomes more common in the Internet age. Yeah, I mean, because that does allow you to be somewhat socially connected, uh and and connected via media to the

to the rest of the world while occupying your small place. Yeah. I kept thinking about that, the anchorite situation, and I was like talking to my wife about it over over vacation, and I was like, yeah, and you're you're just right there in the church walls and you'd get to watch church whenever you want. Um, like that was your that's your only channel, that's your only web page, is whatever's going on in church at that given moment. But nowadays, you know you can just you can be hooked up

to all churches at all times. I was talking to one of my friends about it, who ended up looking into it himself, and he said that he came across some examples at least or at least one example where the person could leave their cell but only into the church, and that was, like, I guess a variation. So normally you'd be totally stuck in the cell and you can just view the church through a window. The other version is there's a door going into the church, but you

can't leave the door of the church going outside. Is that better or worse? I don't know. I mean, of course, so part of the reality is like you're you're pooping in there, right, so, um, I don't know. It means you you occupy the closest bathroom to the church, to to the sanctuary itself. That's a good point. See in the middle of the sermon, somebody's knocking on your door, like, really need to use your pot, but you can't because it's sacred, right all right. Here's another one. This comes

to us from Helen on the topic of an iconism. Hello, Robert and Joe. I just finished listening to the first of the Anichonism series, and of course the second isn't available yet, so this may be premature, but listening to the episode, and particularly hearing about the religious symbol of the conical stone connected to afroddity, reminded me about C. S. Lewis's book Until We Have Faces This, by the way, this is one I have not read. I read a fair amount of C. S. Lewis back in the day,

but I never read till we have faces. No, I haven't either, so this is new to me. Helen continues. Quote in this novel, which retells the story of Cupid and Psyche from the perspective of Psyche's sister, that is deeply, deeply limited synopsis, and I apologize to all the literary scholars who wrote their thesis on this book and would object. There is a deity known as unget connected, I believe with Aphrodite, whose icon in her own temple is a

great stone. Beyond that, holding the gods and the self is a major theme in the book, obviously, both in that Psyche was expressly forbidden from looking upon the face of her divine lover, and that the main character struggles with her appearance, described from her youth as particularly ugly in direct contrast to the other worldly beauty of Psyche. When the main character begins acquiring power in her city state and ultimately becomes queen, she makes a point of

covering her face with a veil. Over time, enough people have either forgotten the specifics of her appearance or never seen her face to begin with, and the rumors begin. Is she impossibly beautiful? Is she monstrous? This unknowable mystique becomes central to her image as a queen, while at the same time continuing the theme of what it means to be seen, to be known, and to be either ugly or beautiful. Again, apologies to all literary scholars everywhere.

It is an intricate novel, much more so than I have laid out here, and very worthy of bringing up in conversation, not just because of the seed at the center that is the story of Cupid and Psyche, but also because the lens applied by C. S. Lewis's own faith and perspective as a Christian author known for weaving Christian symbolism into his written works see as Lan. Thank you for the great listens, Helen. Oh thanks Helen. That sounds really interesting. It's I've never read it, but right

up my alley a bit. I was. I've been thinking about C. S. Lewis his work recently because the ended up watching The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe and the Four Kids recently, and then the boys been reading a couple of them because he wanted to. He was interested in reading more from the Narnia series, so he's been reading them and we've been thinking about watching some more of the films. So I've had just some of that stuff idly kicking around my brain. So it's interesting

to hear back from a listener regarding the writings of C. S. Lewis. Yeah, I'd be interested to revisit those. I read them when I was a kid. I reflecting on them now, I seem I think I would probably enjoy the earlier novels in that series better than the later ones, where the it seems like in the later ones maybe the Christian allegories get a little too overt. Yeah, that that I guess that would be my word. I never read any of the Narnia books until I did the first one

with my my son. I ended up reading a lot of Lewis work later on, like the Space Trilogy and so forth. Yeah, screwtape the classics alright. This next message comes from Ben Ben Rights. Hi, Robert and Joe. Thanks for your two recent episodes on aniconism as a devout Catholic. It tugged on a lot of thoughts and ideas for me,

always a sign of a good episode. As you went through your rapid fire list of modern pop culture examples of antichonism, One example struck me as notably absent from your list Wilson the Neighbor and the TV show Home Improvement. His face was never shown, and the show often went to hilarious lengths to keep it concealed. This maintained the mystery of this character, who was the wise, independable dispenser

of knowledge and reason. I never watched Home Improvement, so I'm only in the vaguest sense aware of this character. But he is he is supposed to be a normal human, right, Yeah, I think so. He wouldn't he like always behind a fence or something. Yeah, I vaguely remember like seeing images of this or clips that. Yeah, it's it's he's behind

a fence. He's the neighbor that's talking to what's his name, the main character, buzz like Tim Allen, Tim Allen, Yeah, and um, and you only ever see the top of his head, like eyes eyes up is all you ever see. So but but presumably I'm guessing there is the rest of his body. It's not like like a hideous otherworldly being from the you know, from the nose down or anything like that was famous nineties teen dreamboat Jonathan Taylor Thomas also on that show, I think he was. Yeah,

but who played Wilson? Was Wilson someone of note? Was he the guy from the Munsters? Or you just sound like the guy from the Munsters had kind of fred Ward kind of quality? Right? Oh? Interesting, hold on, not fred Ward? Who am I thinking of? I apologize to everyone. I'm really jet lagged, so a lot of my associations are coming u. Yes, Seth this chimed in and told us that I'm thinking of fred Gwinn, not fred Ward. Fred Ward. That's right. Yes, he was in Tremors and

he was in that that noir movie with sorcery in it. Oh, cast a deadly spell, cast a deadly spell? Yes? Oh? Oh? Is that? Is that a candidate for Weird House someday? Perhaps I've never seen it, but they're yeah, they're neither. We're a couple of sort of Lovecraftian noir films of of possible interest, and and that's certainly one of them. That's I guess it was like an HBO production, right, because it was always on h streaming. It was like the one constant, one of the pillars of the whole thing.

It's like, we paid for this baby, so it's it's always going to be available. Oh anyway, sorry to wrap up Ben's email. Ben also says that he enjoys a bunch of the stuff podcasts that he's listened to, to us to stuff you should know, stuff you missed in history class. Uh, he's listened to Invention, and he's about to start listening to stuff mom never told you, and says podcasts have helped me get through some truly dark times. So thanks again, sincerely, been glad to hear from you, Ben,

Thanks for writing in. Yeah, and and certainly that's a that's a good example with Wilson though, and I guess also a reminder that that an ichonism need not mean anything at all, just it can just be kind of need as a visual choice or a visual gag. Yeah, but the message is concerning anichonism. Continue, all right. This one comes to us from Richard. Hi. Guys, the Anichonism episodes were utterly fascinating for me and made me think

about devotion in a very different light. One thing, however, struck me very quickly, which perhaps was worthy of much closer attention. My perspective is one of a very lapsed Catholic with a degree in Catholic theology interesting. In the episodes, you use the term cross and crucifix pretty much interchangeably, when, especially in this context, they have distinct meanings generally and certainly in the realm of Catholic devotion, both Roman and Eastern.

Across is in its basic form, two pieces of wood, one at right angles to the other, forming a cross beam. A crucifix is a cross with crucially a representation of crucified Jesus on it, whether a card figure or a painting usually expired. You always got to check your expiration dates. Yeah, but I have come across this distinction before. Yeah, the crucifix is specifically the cross with Jesus on it. Yeah. Now, you always see people using a cross against a vampire.

Can you also use a crucifix against the vampire? One of assume, right, I think you can. Yeah, I would. Yeah. I wonder if that would be more powerful or less. Maybe that actually depends on your soteriology. Yeah, anyway, they continue. The difference is therefore fairly significant when discussing the difference between a physical representation and the divine slash God had

and an object associated with it. Even on the surface, there's a very obvious representational difference between an inanimate object and a literal representation of the Son of God. Books have been written on the topic, but as a basic one paragraph summary. Within Catholic theology, the cross is a representation of God's grace and and of salvation and the resurrection. The cross is empty. The crucifix is broadly the cost of salvation, underlying christ suffering in the wages of sin.

This is one reason why Protestant churches generally skewed the concept of the crucifix. As to put it very bluntly and as somewhat of an over generalization. Protestant theology generally favors the impact of God's grace and salvation over the

impact of the wages of sin. Within both Roman Catholic and Eastern churches, the way crosses and crucifix are venerated is subtly different, and I invite anyone to pay closer attention when visiting churches, especially pre Reformation ones in Europe and the Levant, when the churches were not specifically trying

to distinguish themselves from other Christian denominations. There is a separate discussion to be had about the second diagonal crossbar on Eastern Orthodox crosses and crucifixes, but that is not directly connected to the issue of an ichonism. Keep up the good work helping my brain, working on my daily communite to work. Richard's some work, Richard. Uh yeah, well

this is interesting. Thanks for getting in touch. I feel like this is something that was on the tip of my tongue in the episode, but maybe it just never came up as the difference between the the the occupied cross with Jesus on it represented figurally versus the the empty cross just as an inanimate symbol. But yeah, thanks for this explanation. I think you're generally on the mark about the the trends in the theological implications of the

two different symbols. Alright. This next message is in response to our episodes about beans, and it comes from Windy in China. Wendy says, Hello, Robert and Joe. Love the podcast. Longtime listener, but I'm a little behind recently and had just heard the episodes about beans. When I heard about the yard long beans and you said that you didn't know how to eat them, I instantly knew I had to write to you. I haven't caught up to date still, so please excuse me if anyone had already mentioned it.

In most of the regional cuisines of China, the long beans are for frying, for example, Sichuan style spicy fry with dry red hot pepper, or simply fried with some pork meat, like how you can fry most vegetables with. But my favorite way of preparing the yard long beans is definitely the fermented sour yard long beans called pickled Chinese long beans. Um oh, and I'm gonna try the pronunciation on this swan do jao. I hope that's close.

And she links a video showing how these are being prepared, and in describing the video, Wendy says she's using the shorter kind of beans, but most Chinese use the longer kind. There are also some different ways to ferment. Some use water, salt, and brand seasoning the whole beans. Some cut them up before and only put salt without water. This results in

some differences in taste and texture. I've also heard that if you want the beans to remain crunchy after being pickled, pick the beans young and they will be better than the fully ripe ones. Uh. You know I love fermented vegetables, so this sounds right, up my alley. I don't think I've had this before, but now I've got to try it out. Maybe I can find it at I wonder is this is this specifically a Sichuan pickled vegetable or

is this uh? I guess she doesn't say. Anyway, Wendy goes on, however you ferment it, it is great to cook with it with minced meat after being cut in smaller pieces, or where I'm from the southwest regions of China, like Guangxi, Guizao or Junan Province, you simply put the cut up beans in rice noodles as an add on. It's made popular nationally by the famous rice noodle dish called low c fin or which means the Luzau River

snails rice noodle. WHOA, that sounds cool. It's a very common ingredient in Guangxi cuisine and an important element in Guiland rice noodle too. People also cut up and fry the fermented beans with some oil and red pepper. It's great as a small dish to eat with rice or porridge. Really like the show and looking forward to learning more interesting facts, theories, history and stories, et cetera. All good

stuff best Wendy awesome. Well, yeah, I always love to hear from from our listeners in China, and indeed I was looking at the video here these look These look great, you know, very vibrant looking. And it's also you know, Vegan recipe obviously. Yeah, all right, this one comes to us from Steve titled Invention of Beds. Hi, I'll thanks for the podcast. Only discovered it a couple of months ago, and I've been binging. I just listened to your Invention

episode on beds and you were discussing sleep patterns. I'm English, but for a few years in the early aughts, I lived in uh Seville, south of Spain, down by Morocco. In the summer, in fact, most of the year, the middle part of the day is so crazy hot that it requires a siesta. This means that at least then. I don't know what it's like now, but I can't imagine it's changed the entire city, which shut down between

maybe two pm and five pm. After siesta, you'd maybe go back to work for a few hours and do social activities outdoors in the evenings when it was cooler. Ten pm was a normal time to meet friends for a beer, getting to bed, maybe at three am, maybe sleeping five hours, then getting up for work. You'd supplement this with three hours siestas in the afternoon. During Cista time, it's too hot to do anything but sleep, have sex,

drink somewhere shady, or go to church. I'm not religious, but those ancient, beautiful churches are always pleasingly cool inside. I was working as an English teacher, and my work day was split to allow for siesta and associated travel time. That the same was true for most workers. During siestas, shops shut, the city was silent. The saying was only mad dogs that Englishmen go out in the noonday sun.

This Englishman declined to do so, but it took a while to adjust to this pattern of sleeping a few hours in the afternoon and a few more at night. I love the only mad dogs and Englishmen go out in the midday sun. Wonderful. I've heard that before, but I'd never heard of an anecdote where it directly applied

anyway they could, did you? Uh? Somehow? When I when I had made the adjustment, I felt it was a healthier way to sleep, the fact that I was able to adjust to a different routine of sleeping suggests to me that perhaps our Western pattern of sleeping for a long stretch during the night is not biologically imperative but entirely cultural. Makes me wonder if there might be even better ways to manage our need for sleep. I know shift workers who struggle with night shifts and rotating shifts.

The demands of capitalism are often inimical to healthy sleep, but a short sleep and a nap later seemed to work well. Perhaps there are other possibilities not yet explored. Anyway, I just wanted to share my experience. Thanks for the podcast, keep them coming. Oh and I'm loving the cinema ones too, cheers Steve. Yeah, very interesting, Thanks Steve. I've definitely read about Sista culture and um specifically in Spain, but I wonder maybe are there other parts of the Mediterranean where

that's more common. Um Maybe so I would love to hear about regional different regional approaches to the same problem. You know. Yeah, I seem to recall when I visited Italy that it I don't know if it had to do with a Cista culture, but I do recall shops and places being closed in the middle of the day a lot. But maybe that's a coincidence. Yeah, maybe that's

just lunch break. I don't know now, I know in terms of different sleep pink patterns, I think we've we've touched on this before and I've seen this, uh this discussed multiple places, the idea that maybe we're not supposed to sleep, We're not really meant to sleep all the

way through the night in one giant chunk. You know that at the very least, there's supposed to be a period in which we wake up and do other things and then return to slumber um, which I find myself doing that sometimes, you know where it's like you you sleep and you wake up and you can't sleep for a little bit, so you watch the first half hour of the Return of Swamp thing, you go back to sleep. This seems to be where a lot of our our

weird house cinema ideas come from. It's like often lately it seems like we're talking, You're like, well, yeah, you know, I woke up at two am and I watched Transfers

and now here we are. Yeah. I mean if for me anyway, it's like I wake up at a time like that, my brain is not functioning well enough to do anything else, including like look at a video game or whatnot, But watching a you know, a weird movie that generally that's about the right speed for the half asleep brain and we're all thankful for it, well speaking, a weird movie. So do we have some weird how cinema specific listener mail to look at here? Yeah, we

got a couple on the cinema front. One comes from Amy. Amy jumps into the ongoing Sean Connery Scottish accent in Highlander saga, which has maybe we've now gotten more listener mail about than anything else. Um, Amy says, Hi, all the ongoing interest in Sean connery Scottish accent in Highlander made me remember the audio component from my high school Russian language class. We used a text book called Russian for Everybody, and I can't remember if the audio was

part of the book or not. At any rate, I remember watching videos of a Russian woman who had evidently learned English in the Southern US as she had a strange combination of Russian and Southern accents. She pronounced words with a distinct Southern drawl. Okay, so maybe this in warms the question of whether whether you would have a Scottish accent if you learned English in Scotland, you know,

I feel like i've I've heard. I didn't think about this in context of Sean Connery's accent, but I think I had heard accounts of people before who had acquired a foreign language with certain accents in play, and then

like people pick up on it. Like I think I had heard about something of this nature with someone who had learned I can't remember it was Japanese or Chinese, but then when they went there, went to to China, Japan, whichever the case was, Like people picked up on the fact that they had a strange um, you know, regional accent for someone who is clearly not from that region. Amy's message continues also on the subject of the Punish

the Machine episodes. Whenever an electronic device isn't working, especially on the occasions when printers don't work in my job, my first thought is to unplug it and make it think about what it's done. Thanks for reading, Amy, I like that because it it, you know, the the weird anthrom morphic reasoning. They're sort of maps onto the actual best first step in troubleshooting, usually, which is turned it off and turn it back on. Yeah, but yeah, should

teach it a lesson? It knows what it did. Yeah, all right. We have another listener mail here related to Weird House Cinema. This one comes to us via the Stuff to Blow Your Mind discussion module Facebook group, which is which is out there. You can you can join their listeners who engage in discussions there about anything publishing and the Stuff to Blow your Mind podcast feed. And Ed had this to say regarding Hanuman versus seven Ultraman, Hi,

Robert and Joe. As a tie who was born in the late seventies, I grew up watching this movie several times. I am surprised you guys could find and discuss it in in deep detail despite the poor translation. You have brought my nostalgic memory back today. Thank you, Ed. Oh that just warms my heart. Yeah, it was. It was great. Great to hear from from someone who observed, who watched this film. Uh you know, back back in the day. Uh, you know as as a part of thaigh culture. You know.

It's like because because that that that was part of my experience was watching this and wondering what that would be like. You know, what is it like? I I guess in general. I love to hear stories like that, where the new, you know, weird film for for us often, especially as a you know, as a as an American viewer, is to someone else just like a part of the

fabric of their childhood. Um, Like the Jack Frost film is A is a great example of this um that we've you know, discussed in passing on the show before Russo finished movie. Yeah. Yeah, and I remember meeting, um, somebody from the Czech Republic who was like, oh, yeah, they showed this every Christmas. This was our Christmas movie, you know, and and so it's it's I love I

love stories like that. Yeah, And it also makes you reflect on how there are lots of things that you watched when you were a child, and because you were exposed to them often and early, they seem utterly mundane or normal to you. But if somebody who didn't have that exposure, like cultural or just exposure early in their

life came across them, they might seem tremendously weird to them. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely, I mean, certainly there's a lot of tremendously weird films that that I feel like we we all watched growing up, but they're just a part of the fabric of our childhood. Uh so we we often don't realize how how how strange they are. Like sometimes it might be interesting to get a a you know, a Russian adult today or a tie adult today to watch the Disney movies that we saw as a kid and say, like, what what

does this look like to you? Oh? Man? Yeah, if there's anybody out there who can speak to that. Um, you know, are you someone who was not exposed to sort of a mess American and or Western children's films until much later? And then and then in doing so, what was that like? I mean, we don't even have to go like Western, Like you see huge differences between people who grew up, you know, watching American television versus

British television. Um, you know, things that are just like common touchstones, Like there's apparently a film or a TV series and I can't remember which called Stick of the Dump that is a that is I don't know, not something Americans know about for the most part, I think, but but for for many British listeners, like, yeah, there's this story about a kid who meets in Neandertal that lives in the garbage dump and that's just a part of what you grow up with. Whereas you know, I

I hear that as a it's a grown person. I'm like, that just sounds really weird. Why would you rear a child on such a strange concept. Yeah, even considering how you know, because of shared language and all that, how close British and American culture are, Like how weird Doctor who is too? Americans who encounter it for the first time, but like, you know, British kids who grew up watching it,

it seems very mundane and normal to them. Yeah, and I wonder how much of this we're we're getting away from, or we're getting into weirder areas I guess where parents have more power to h to curate what their child, what weird things their child are into. You know, it's not just whatever is on television. In some cases, it's like we're cherry picking, like the strangest and most beloved things from our past and inflicting them on the children. Yeah.

Uh that I wonder exactly how best to frame it, But that is something that could be an interesting episode in some way. I don't know what angle to approach it, really, but like the phenomenon of Okay, so you're an adult who remembers, say, the Dark Crystal from your childhood or something like that is something that was absolutely magical that you just loved and you still have all these fond, nostalgic memories for and you see the beauty of it and you want to make your kid love it too.

What if they don't? What if you show it to them and they just don't get it? Do you know what I mean? Oh? Oh yeah, I mean I I know from experience what that's like. And you just have to you know, I guess you just have to roll with it and realize, you know, they're not gonna love everything. And if they love, if they take a shining to you know, half the stuff that that you loved growing up, then you're you're lucky that you could to experience it again.

And if they're not into it, well then you just keep that just for you. You did. You did get lucky with the Dark Crystal though, right, Yeah? But that one was that one was hard. The Dark Crystal is not one that he seems jazz to necessarily watch again because it is kind of dark and serious in tone. Um, But there are other things that I either haven't been able to convince him to to give a shot to um, you know, or I just maybe I waited too long,

or maybe it's not time yet. You know, that's Timing is everything, and every kid is different, especially when you get into some of the you know, the darker bits of media. You know, like when is the right time to show a child the never Ending Story? You know, you don't want to go too early, you don't want to go too late. I don't know, there's like a sweet spot. But you want them you still want them

to feel it. That's the other weird thing about exposing these these these types of of properties to our kids. It's like there's part of this weird voyeuristic um thing there where we want to we're experiencing it again through them, but wherever mindful, Like what are they going to how are they going to react when they find out that the Darth Vader is Luke's father? You know, how are they going to react when that when when the when a tray use horse sinks into the swamp of despair

never Ending story? You know? Um even you know, even though we we don't want them to hurt or anything like that, but you know, we it's like we we're watching them engage in the power of story and the power of myth and and part of it is is is anticipating engaging their reaction, you know, watching them watch it but not yet not Stephen King's head way too ear with my kid, I don't know. I mean, I

know kids that are already super into Penny Wise. The clown that are that are about his age, so who know, it varies from child to job. What's the right age for the Tommy Knockers who? I don't know. I never made it through the Tommy Knockers. I think they're making it again though, right there are another version of they've like run that dry on Stephen King material to adapt, They're going into Tommy Knockers. I mean, I think just

everything gets snatched up, right, Uh, I don't know. The weird thing with with king properties is, Yeah, it seems like there's there's a lot of competition to to make and remake all the novels, but there's still there's so many great short stories that haven't really been adapted outside of the you know, the agreement that he has. Uh, what is it the Dollar Club where anybody can any film student can make a Stephen King adaptation as as

a student film. Um that you know, he had so many great weird short stories that I feel like could be revisited. Oh yeah, totally. Anyway, I guess we should probably wrap it up. Yeah, we're gonna go and close out the mail for this episode of Stuff to Blow Your Mind listener mail, but right in because we'll be doing it again next Monday. We'd love to hear your response to topics we covered in this episode. Response to UH, recent or old Stuff to Blow Your Mind episodes, episodes

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