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Hello, welcome back to the show. My name is Matt. Our colleague Nol is on an adventure, but we'll be returning shortly.
They call me Bed. We're joined as always with our super producer, Dylan the Tennessee pal Fagan. Most importantly, you are you. You are here. That makes this the stuff they don't want you to know. Folks, if you are hearing this strange news segment on the Evening and Publishes, let us be the first to welcome you to Monday,
April seventh, twenty twenty five. We've got a cat shouting at us in the backgrounds, probably because there are so many things we need to get to, Matt, we may at some point need to just do a thing called cat news.
Yes, can we please? I would do that.
I'm sure we'd have a certain demographic for that one, right, for any cats and doggos in the audience. Matt, how is Meadow doing.
She's very happy laying down over there, being sleepy, not bringing a toy to me right now. She heard about the cats that we're going to be on the show today. She gets a little nervous around the kitty cats. But hey, guys, as we come to you today, it is Wednesday, April second. It is officially a new American holiday today. Yeah, liberate first day, the first of its kind. In less than an hour, tariffs from here will join others from around the world, and we'll be launching the largest trade war
in the history of man and kind. Perhaps it's fate that today is the second of April, when we'll once again be fighting for our freedom, not from tyranny, oppression, or persecution, but from non reciprocal trade relationships. We're fighting for our right to tax, to tax others and ultimately ourselves. And should we win, the day ben the second of July will no longer be known as thirteen days before tax Day, but as the day the world declared in one voice, screw you s A U s A. We
will not trade freely without a fight. We're going to tax on. We're going to suffer together. Today we celebrate our liberation Day.
Nice, nice, nice.
Sorry, that's just a quote from Bill Pullman with a little style one.
Yeah, Yeah, I love it, man, I love it. I love it. Also, we'll we'll see how it ages. Do you remember watching Independence Day? Did you see it in the theater?
Yeah? So many times. I wore out that seat, same seat every time.
I remember watching the theater as well. And that's a weird thing about science fiction. So often can be pressy, and especially with all the strange stuff we're seen in the sky. Please check out our interview segment with Gabe Lennards. I really like that one, Matt, I really like talking with Gabe. He's smart guy. Check out obscure him. Invasion of the Drones it's called. And the guy did his research,
he got on the ground. I think you and I both have always held a well, I'll say I think we've always held a certain special place in our hearts for people who actually study weather. And Gabe is a little too humble to say it, so we'll say it for him. He did study meteorology.
Most definitely studied it hard and used it, used all those skills and knowledge to look up and see some weird stuff up there. And he was able to you know, he's able to know, Hey, it's not this phenomena that we're aware of. It's not that one something else.
And folks, you know we do interview segments in place of episodes only when we want to share something that really matters, something that will speak to you, the most important part of the show. So before we begin our strange news today, we have to get let you know, there's a lot of stuff going on in the world. One of our favorite things right now is always going to be a heist. So I suggest, Matt that we take a pause for a word from our sponsors, and then we get to a heist. We have to mention
it's very close to Dylan. Yes, let's do that, and we have returned the breaking news as of March thirty first, So a few days ago, is this out in bean Station, Tennessee? Matt, have you been to You've been to Tennessee.
I've been to Tennessee, never to a bean station within the state.
Oh it's the name of the place. Oh yes, yes, it's the name of the place, dude. Is it is a town in Tennessee. It is named bean Station, And it's actually quite close to some origin stories for our Tennessee pal and yours. Truly, it's kind of like within the area of Kingsport and Knoxville, so very northeast Tennessee. Here's what happened. Somebodyated a fake trucking company and they did so to steal eighty thousand pounds of beef. This
just happened. The eighty thousand pounds of beef they stile are worth about three hundred and fifty thousand dollars US. So that is for everybody listening abroad, that is obviously not why goo. If we're doing pounds the kilograms, that's about a north of thirty six thousand kilograms. Anyway, they stole a ton of beef, dude, And I'm not sure why do you want to hear the skiddy on it?
I do, because I still I don't have a clear picture of how you take stolen meat and turn it into something that would become a profit unless you're completely destroying that meat somehow by cooking it and putting it into something else or creating another product of some sort.
Or yeah, like if you're animating the dead or you have a secret cash of tigers or bears, well.
Like could you just be like, could you become a fake meat supplier when you have that much meat and then How do you offload that much meat that quickly unless you've got a couple of really big buyers.
Yeah, and then the question becomes, who is out there in the world going, I need eighty thousand pounds of off the books.
Meat, discount meat at your local Kroger, there's a manager who's like, oh, man, I heard about this real good cheap meat I can get out of bean station.
So so if you go to if you go to the local news there in Tennessee, you'll see a story by Emma Carnes, who is kind of our first to the post on this one NBC affiliate wbi R ten one zero. They'll give you the details we know now. There's a place called Southeastern Provisions. They're the folks who lost eighty thousand pounds of beef. And they spoke with police, they spoke with reporters. They found that these shipments have been subcontracted out to this group that doesn't exist. There
was a possible inside job here. Ahmed Wangi w e n Gy, the dispatcher who was communicating the trucking stuff has kind of ghosted, is not responding to emails. That does mean that they were in on it, but it does mean there's a possibility that, you know, there's a possibility that this was a bureaucratic error or a possibility that's a real life heist. Southeastern Provisions had two trucks, right, so forty thousand pounds each. We could logically assume one
was going to Kentucky one was going to Michigan. As we record today, no one has been arrested. But at this point, Matt, I think it's very important to bring our legendary super producer, Dylan the Tennessee pal Fagan onto the mic because as you and I were talking about this story off air, Dylan was like, yeah, I know a little some about this.
Yeah, I know it's a similar case. I was going to say, it's small potatoes in comparison to this, but it's probably chicken tenders in comparison to this. It's not eighty thousand pounds in meat. But a few years ago a friend of the family in the Knoxville area was arrested for being part of a small time meat ring. They would get their meat from Kroger and sell out out of the trunk of their car.
Whoa trum meat.
Yeah, I don't know how successful this was.
I'm sure it was a cheap it was a deep discount. But I'm guessing that some got tipped off about this because someone who is I guess solicited to buy meat was like, there's someone selling meat out of their trunk.
I thought you might want to know.
Yeah, so, okay, now we understand. The meat comes from Southern Provisions. It goes to you know, neighborhood grocery stores throughout the Tennessee area and is sold out of the back of cars. Now we understand. Now we understand.
It's so simple.
Yeah, well wait, hold on. It moves through the Kroger first, so the cheap meat goes to the Kroger. The insiders know that the cheap meat's at the Kroger. They buy all the cheap meat right in the trunk. Now they flip it. Now the Kroger gets a little off the top.
I love this. I love this, And folks, fellow conspiracy realists, this is truly how the three of us think together. This is how we talk to each other and with each other. There is currently, yes, there is a cutout company that got eighty thousand pounds of beef, and we're still like you wondering what you would do with all
that meat, so you know what I mean. Also, Matt props to us for keeping keeping our faces straight and professional, while Dylan said, meat ring, yep, meat ring, small time meat. Look under the table. I got a lot of meat.
I'll sell it on the cheap.
Oh nice, Okay, drop the beat.
Drop the beef.
Uh, drop the beef, Drop the beef. We have other stuff to get to. I think maybe maybe we trade back and forth. What's something that's been on your mind lately, Well.
Let's just talk about it. There's a crazy story that doesn't have a lot of context that dropped. Oh gosh. It was a while ago, about six days ago, since today that we're recording story out of the BBC that we found where there was a babysitter somewhere in Barton County and the child they were babysitting was complaining that there was someone under her bed. There's a monster under my bed. Help me, babysitter, there's a monster under my bed.
Babysitter young woman says, of course, there's no monster under your bed, honey, everything's fine. Look here, I'll check for you. Proceeds to go under the bed, only to find a human male. What underneath the bed? A man? An actual facts human man underneath this child's bed.
Ah yeah, terrified. Yeah, at least it was human.
Well, yeah, it wasn't an actual well I mean yeah, it wasn't.
A monster, but yeah, a human one.
Yeah for sure. But there was an altercation. That's what the news there says. There was a quote altercation that ensued with both the babysitter and I guess one of the children who was attempting to get away. One of the children was knocked over, but the person escaped. And you know, how do you feel safe again after that? Knowing that that could happen, just you know, while you're on watch as the babysitter. That's terrifying.
And we have to know this is is when you say Barton County, this is Barton County, Kansas.
Yeah, oh yeah, this is Kansas. Sorry I should have said that. And is weird that the BBC is talking about it? Be somebody over in the UK, just like, do you hear about this crazy story? We can write an article?
Well, yeah, is everyone safe?
Everyone as of this moment is safe. The person has been arrested. They got away that night, but they were picked up later they have been charged with aggravated burglary, aggravated battery, child endangerment, felony, obstruction of a law enforcement officer, and violation of a protection from abuse order. And that is because this person, who was twenty seven years old, once lived at that residence and there was a protective order levied against him to stay away from the property. Wow.
Okay, so the monster under the bed was human, was about twenty seven years old, and was familiar with the territory.
Yes, yes, And again we don't have all the details, but likely the babysitter was not aware of this person.
Well, that's disturbing, I think it. At the very least, it's a good note to always lock your windows and always change your locks when you move into a place.
Yeah.
Oh boy, So what is going to happen? Do we know? Or what drew you to this story? It's a very disturbing idea that someone could get so close to your children.
Uh yeah, I think having you know, functioned as a babysitter before and now being a dad, that action of checking a closet or under the bed or that kind of thing to reassure the child you're taken care of. That No, there is, in fact to nothing there. Everything's fine, you're safe, I'm here. That just that thing. It's very familiar to me, and I'm sure it's familiar to a lot of people listening and knowing that that occurred one time, just that one you know, that one off time where
there actually happens to be something there. I don't know how I would react other than full on astonishment. I don't know. I guess the best move would be to pretend like nothing's there, pick up the child and GTFO. Well, I don't know what would you.
Do, right? Yeah, man, it's a it's a thing that is common to everyone. I think if you're in a position of guardianship, I always will check the closet, you know, I will always check under the bed, because it's not the I hate to say it, but it's not the nine times someone's freaking out incorrectly. It's the one time that something might be happening, So you always have to check. And I appreciate the the I gotta say it, man, I didn't know that you would ever babysat kids as well.
It is often an unrewarding thing to do.
Oh I got paid. I was a kid too, but I was old enough. I got paid. It's like twenty bucks forty bucks maximum, I think for like a really late night one time. But hey, I didn't care. It was fun. It was actually really really fun.
It's super cool because being a babysitter is kind of like if you do it right, it's kind of like being the you know, the cool uncle or the cool aunt. You know, you're like, ah, right, I guess we can play a little more Roadblocks.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I remember specifically being like fourteen and babysitting these younger kids and just feeling like I was a kid again, like getting to do play. And that's how I try and do datting most of the time. Now it's like remembering, Oh yeah, play's cool.
And the reason I'm setting up Roadblocks is because there's a thing happening with Roadblocks right now. Full disclosure, folks, we previously worked with Roadblocks on a project where we had a show that would play in the in the world of Roadblocks, and if you if you care about me, if you care about Matt, please don't feel like you have to watch that.
Oh you can, though, you can find the iHeartRadio World within Roadblocks. Actually no, you can't. Watch it anymore. It was a limited, like one time thing every time we did an episode in there. But maybe they'll maybe they'll bring it back. But you could see us on a digital screen inside a Roadblocks world. Giha. But in this case, and you know, personally, I'm dealing with this with my
son right now. Just the types of games, the user generated content that can go into Roadblocks, and how popular some of that can become, and how creepy just the content it is, but then also how creepy some of the interactions can.
Be, like a YouTube algorithm slippage.
Yes, well, in a certain game will get really popular with kids, and when that gets really popular, you have no idea who else is logging in to play these games. And I have seen characters come up to my son's character and try and offer him all kinds of points or you know, specific in game stuff as like to me, it, oh, look, I have no proof that it's some adult coming to my child offering these things, but it feels like someone offering candy out of a van to me.
Yeah, it feels untoward. It's definitely a thing we have seen in the past with Honestly, it's a little bit like the Lake City quiet pills like the choice of
how to communicate and where to communicate. This this is one for our privacy guy who we will respond to regarding questions about signal and telegram you find the easiest, most seemingly ephemeral forms of communication right when you're trying to slip around five eyes if there are even still five And you found a story recently Matt about how Roadblocks is responding to this by giving parents a little bit more agency over their children's activity.
Yeah, starting today, the day we record this on April second, Liberation Day, parents are going to have a couple of new tools. They think there are three tools in total, but one of them is going to allow it's like a friend management thing for their child's account. Right, so they've got a separate account that's connected to a credit card or you know whatever, however they're identified as a parent.
Then that is connected to the child's account. They can then remove anybody they want to on the friends list of their child, which is pretty important when you've got it.
Didn't it that that wasn't a thing before.
No, you would have to go into the child's account and manage everything from there, which is you know, which would have been fine. But in this way, as a parent, with your own cell phone or whatever, you can go through and just keep a watch on who is friending your child or who your child is friending. Yeah, it's a weird thing where once you have a kid who's really into roadblocks, like my son is, he's not allowed
to play at my house anymore, sorry, bud. But when you've got that, there are kids constantly coming up to your child and trying to get their roadblocks ID or something so that they can meet up. But when you plug in somebody's ID within the roadblocks environment, sometimes like a character is off or different and now it's a whole other person that you're friending, it can get really weird.
The verification of those kind of things is tough, but you'll also find every once in a while that your child has friended some random people just while they've been playing, and it's probably a good idea to remove as many of those as possible. The other two things parents can change within roadblocks are changing the maturity level for content of your child's account, which is pretty huge. Sometimes at least my son will be playing games or tell me about games that he played that are just not is
a trange or super creepy and not cool. And there are a couple of other things you can do. I'm not sure if these go across all countries where Roadblocks operates, or if it's just in the UK, because this is a story out of the Guardian. They're in the UK. But do check out the new rules if you have a child with Roadblocks.
And that Guardian article is by Rachel Hall. It's strange now to live in this era of aumbiquitous information that a lot of us have, Like I'm speaking to you directly, friends, neighbors, conspiracy realists. A lot of us have grown up pre
the emergence of social media. Right, we grew up before you were sort of required in some stupid way to respond to everybody immediately, right, you know, you know what I miss, Matt, I miss I miss Like do you remember like back in like the seventeen eighteen hundreds, you didn't You could send a letter every two years or something, and if you didn't, like, if you made it back to wherever you know your friends were, they would have questions,
but they wouldn't be mad at you. They would just be like, oh my god, you made it back from you know, the Pacific or the Moon. I'm talking too much. There's a lot of classified stuff going on.
And let's look into some of these things afterward. From our sponsor.
And we have returned, we're coming in hot with some classic stuff. They don't want you to know, Matt. I know we've been both following this story for a while. You and I are intensely, weirdly familiar with how Uncle Sam has spent a lot of time in the past experimenting with the possibility of psychic powers.
Yeah. Yeah, it's it's one of the coolest things that you can look into. I think, Oh well, I mean pretty much anything on this show is super cool to look into, honestly, especially when it comes to other worldly powers, different types of energy sources, you know, extraterrestrials, all that stuff, the X file stuff that's super cool. But this one, the concept of humans actually having esp the abilities to see the future or the.
Past clairvoyant's astral projection, remote viewing. We call it right the idea, the idea that one could through some inborn talent, perhaps a genetic predisposition or just some training, right the way that people are born knowing how to operate a firearm can be trained. What if you could train people to have super POWs. The CIA asked a lot of crazy questions, continues to ask them still, and we just learned from from our buddies at the agency. I'm laughing
because this is so crazy. We just learned that in nineteen eighty eight, the CIA conducted an experiment to quote unquote discover the arc of the Covenant. It's super Indiana Joanes stuff. It's pretty wild. At first. I remember reading these things previously and being confused whether Remote Viewer number three to two was looking for Noah's arc or the arc of the Covenant, which are two very different arcs, you know, and no one has ever accused religious writers
of originality, but so you know it's an arc. Right. Here's what happened. Here's what we know. There was a project called sun Streak, and sun Streak attempted to leverage people that may or may not have the ability to astrally project, as you said, through time or in a non physical fashion. This guy, this person, remote Viewer number three to two, was given some sort of experimental situation, whatever those guidelines may mean, and without prior knowledge of
the target, this this experiment, now declassified. They had a person describing, quote a container made of wood, gold and silver, adorned with images of six winged angels and similar in shape to a coffin. We also get this from the New York Post, from Jpost, and of course from our friends at the agency. Apparently, when this happened again in nineteen eighty eight, the CIA took it as forgive me folks, gospel wow. They believed it was a confirmation that the thing actually.
Existed.
This is kind of an older story because the document itself was declassified years ago. It's something you and I didn't get to in our previous conversations. It happened on December fifth, nineteen eighty eight. The what they got was a the way that you do these kind of things, or the way that we used to do these kind of things, is you would give a latitude and longitude, and you would ask you would put them in certain situations and kind of ask them to freestyle.
Yeah, it reminds me of the declassified Mars remote viewing session we found that was. It was done in nineteen eighty four. It was approved for release by the CIA in the year two thousand and then a couple of years ago we recreated the transcript basically, but it's the
same thing. Somebody in a closed off space gives a remote viewer a sealed envelope which they keep on their person, sealed, and then they are given coordinates and they're told to focus their attention on those coordinates using the information that's in the sealed envelope. Right, And in the case of the one we did, the person remote viewed Mars in
the past and the far millions of years ago. And in this case, I guess the person was given the envelope, probably with information about the Covenant Dark of the Covenant, then given some coordinates, and then somehow found it. All.
Right, here's the thing, though, here's the thing, and we're getting in front of the emails. Please respond conspiracydiheartradio dot com. Everybody listening obviously knows that Raiders of the Lost Arc, the Indiana Jones film, came out in nineteen eighty one. As a result, there are you know, there's serious questions. We're not saying this remote viewer was being intentionally deceitful, but we are saying there were things in the zeitgeist already. We also did an episode and I believe one of
our original videos which absolutely slap. We examined the location of the Arc of the Covenant, or the purported one, which is at a small church in Ethiopia. We checked and the best that Matt and I can do is go to the entrance. You cannot go into the church where the arc is held because of the you know, a lot of red tape if it is in fact there, If it is in fact there, which is a question
we get to. So the reason we're bringing up this these declassified CIA files is really warning about critical thinking folks, because this stuff was declassified a while ago, and now it is circulating across social media, so it looks and feels new, it is not new. And to this day, any research into any government funded research into extraordinary powers of that sort esp kind of stuff, it has been discontinued officially.
It is interesting how paintings that depict the Arc of the Covenant, you know that date back into the seventeen hundred's, paintings that go back to you know, thirteenth century, depictions of the arc vary so much, and some of them
show things. There's one by Benjamin West from around circa of the year eighteen hundred that shows the exact thing that is being described by the remote viewer, the white, all white robed individuals, you know, carrying this object that's a container within a container.
Yeah they got uh, you got you got the people in the robes and it's like a pallequin, you know. Uh, they're holding the long poles to carry the things so that they don't touch it directly.
Yep. I mean, so you just imagine that if you're the individual in there performing the remote viewing, you've got, if you know anything about the Ark of the Covenant, You've got so much imagery available to you. And as you said, that film that talks about it shows it a whole bunch makes you know, a huge part of the entire plot about this one thing. Uh, you've got all that in your head as you're in that session.
Even if you're not, I don't know, I don't know how you would be clued in unless somebody just told you, hey, it's about the Ark of the Covenant.
I would I would honestly take it with less salt if it were at oss operation, you know, like a mid World War two, right like back in the days of.
Yeah, yeah, no, I got you. That makes sense, because there's no way for us to verify the scientific efficacy of any of the you know, the trials that were done right for these things. But we do know. You can find these transcripts on CIA dot gov.
So oh yeah, it's official. They for sure did it.
Well, yeah, it's not as though this is just make them up seas unless the CIA is doing this kind of thing, unless this was all written out by some writer so that it would get, you know, leaked to Soviet forces or something in the eighties, which I don't know why they would, but whatever, I don't know.
All Right, well, folks, let us know if you participate in astral projection, let us know. You know what I Normally I never say this, but I I've taken a turn in my life and now I do want to hear about people's dreams. As we're working on an episode about dream experiments, this is a bit of foreshadowing. We would love to hear from you directly. Have you had a dream that you feel was predictive? Have you had an experience that does go past you know, the usual
psychological pitfalls and speed bumps. Tell us please, we're conspiracy at iHeartRadio dot com one eight three three st d wytk Matt, we have so much more to get to, man, Like, there's right now. I was expecting Senator Corey Booker to still be talking.
Hey, he might very well be. It's just he's no longer, you know, on the floor, do it to a filibuster. He's just at his at his house.
His house, still going yeah, so are you, and so are we. So we'll pause for a word from our sponsors.
And we've returned. Guys. I never like it when we talk about aspartame, sucralose and all of these substitutes or red forty or whatever. I hate talking about this stuff. Why because it's so simple and it's stuff. Usually that's like a no brainer. Let's not put artificial chemicals and stuff into our foods. Let's just not. If we need it to be sweet, put some sugar in there. If you don't want it to be sweet, just leave it out. I don't know, I don't know. Let's talk about sucralose.
Let's do it.
It's in the news again. We've talked about it before. We've talked about aspartame, ad nauseum, aspertanium. I don't know. Whatever, Yeah, We've talked about these things because they they appear to do strange stuff to our bodies, these artificials.
See, now my dog gets it.
She understands. She says, why would you do that? I'm not supposed to have sugar anyway, I'm a dog. But these things, okay, sucralose and aspartame and the rest they are there are weird substances chemicals because they trick our brains into and our taste buds into thinking we are getting the sugar experience, which can be extremely happy for a human being. When you're getting that sugar experience, it can be quite addictive, and your body has certain changes
once you're getting that sugar hit. We've heard the stories before. It's a natural reaction. Children especially will get super hyped when you get that sugar course and through your body all those good chemicals, all those reactions happening in your brain to changes. Give me that doctor, Pepper, mom, please, that's what my son says, Pepper.
There is yeah, twenty three secret ingredients, and they are all some version of pieces.
Oh gross. His favorite is IBC root beer though don't okay.
No, I respect rut beer man. You know I'm older than you guys. But but okay, so we're laying out, we're establishing the the truth. There's no conspiracy afoot, there's no like debatable science. The reason super loose and sugar like synthetic sugar replacements, the reason they function in your local diet coke or heaven, forfend, your local doctor pepper, diet, doctor pepper. Oh my doctor pep zero, doctor pea excuse, yeah, no, let me put some respect on the name doctor diet,
doctor pepper zero. God damn twenty three different types of poop. And anyway, the idea is that these artificial sweeteners, you could argue they themselves are sort of a conspiracy against the human need, the human biological need to always seek the sweet, right, yeah, spicy, the unctious, and in doing so, maybe that could have consequences.
Oh yeah, so corporations created an artificial need for that sugar by putting so much of it to so many of the products, right that humans have been consuming at least these kinds of I don't know, snack products that exist out there in the food stuff and in the drinks. The sugar just flows.
Don't have it started on corn syrup?
Man? Oh yeah, Well, we turned the cane sugar into that high fructose corn syrup thing that had a nice little run. And then humanity realized, Oh, this whole like this thing where we're all getting bigger and bigger and bigger, and it's not muscle mass. That might have something to do with the amount of sugar we're consuming all the time, and we realized, oh, it's actually caloric intake that has to do with that. We're not burning those calories in the same way. Well, why don't we make it just
as sweet but without the calories. And that's where wherein aspartame arrives.
Well, I love it. The pursuit of happiness, Yeah, pursuit of sweetness. Well, the taste of butter.
You gotta still sell all of those cases of whatever sugary drink that is no longer sugary. It's aspartamery. And sucrolose came in as a hero to save us from aspartame and the damaging effects of all these other artificial sweeteners. And now I think it was twenty twenty three when we talked about this last where there were studies coming
out saying, oh, sucrolos is doing some weird stuff. Actually, and sucrolose is not the hero anymore, in the same way equal was no longer the hero, which was one of the other things for a while, which I think
is just aspertain. I don't even know anymore, dude. But there's another new study that is saying sucralose specifically activates parts of the brain that believe sugar is coursing through your body and it just makes you hungrier, superlos The zero calorie thing makes you hungrier, which increases the chances that you're going to consume some stuff with actual sugars
in it and actual you know, calories and stuff. So you're actually going to have the opposite effect of what you want when you consume sucerloss.
Right, Yeah, that's what I mean. Why say conspiracy because you know, not too long ago when w wassoda invented, there's an episode, so worry about it. But not too long ago, with the emergence of artificial sweetener, we saw some studies that said, you know, people will tend to eat more when they drink a diet soda. So and that's I know it sounds like stand up, thank you for BP meat, Dylan, but but it is true. There is scientific basis to it because the brain gets that, you know, sort of misstep.
Mm hmm, yep, it's it's yeah, you can read about this. We found it in CNN something Sandy LaMotte wrote back on March twenty ninth of this year. It's titled Artificial sweener found a diet drinks links to brain changes that increase appetite. Study finds that study finds as important because it's just another single study. It's not a big sweeping study of sucralose in any of these other substitutes, but it is another study amongst the rest of them that are showing this kind of thing.
And you know, well, we here in the US have to pass the torch to you folks, because our scientific apparatus, our scientific infrastructure is getting chopped down, you know, very quickly. There are mass layoffs underway in this country across the nation's public health agencies. Supporters of that say it's a greater good argument cutting you know, waste, increasing efficiency. People who would have survived due to various health conditions can't
object because they will be dead. What we're saying is there is no way for folks at like the FDA or the CDC to continue evaluating these studies. So we're hearing that. To me, Matt, these and fellow conspiracy realists, these studies that we're reading about now remind me of that poem, do not go gentle into that good night.
Hmm.
You know what I mean?
Do you read that one? Oh? I that one?
Yeah, Well, we're getting close to time, and I know I walked a long way to mention the huge cuts to this proud nation's infrastructure. But you've you've heard about this, right you saw the news?
Oh yeah, oh yeah. The the number of cuts to the number of different federal organizations is overwhelming right now, this one in particular, the set of layoffs that deal with, you know, the health of everybody, especially when they're things like pandemics possibly rolling around, things like bird flu that's everywhere, measles making its way, you know, throughout Texas to now nineteen different states in the country.
Yeah, that's one of your favorites.
Yeah, it's like a bad move. I don't know, right.
The US Health and Human Services Department sounds it's a boring name, but they do a lot of important things and there is a non zero likelihood that some of us listening tonight are alive because that place existed.
Yeah. Well, you know what else they do. They got this whole thing called the USDA that you know, regulating food we Eatoo.
I'm so tired of not finding human fingers, am I chili?
You know what I mean? We need some kind of liberation day. They can just get rid of all the people that protect us and we are liberated. Now.
You know what I like to do when I buy something in the grocery store. First off, I like to pay like five hundred dollars or something, and then I like to feel like I'm rolling the dice. You know what I mean.
It's like scratchies, you know, scratch offs every time you go to the grocery store.
So we are being adherent to our old remit folks, which is to tell you the truth and to hold with our old covenant. There is no whistle like a graveyard whistle. There is no humor like a goffaw at the gallows. This is bad. This is a politically bad You are in danger, like this is not cool. Nope, nope, Measles, tell us about measles.
I want to know about measles.
Really, I mean, I know about measles. You know it's one of your favorites, so go ahead tell us about Well.
It's it's one of those things that I really, I genuinely discounted it a bit as just a little thing that was happening in a little part of Texas for a while, and the outbreak in western Texas has growned over four hundred human beings. Uh.
I will say, I will say one of the most unhelpful phrases in any situation is I told you so. So nobody, yeahbody, nobody do it.
Nobody do it. But but you know, and that's fine. I'll take that I told you so. It's just one of those things that I think, with so many other things going on, it felt like a little blip to me in the beginning, and oh, well, that's going to stink for a lot of people there, but that it's going to stay there. But now at this point it is. It's nineteen different states. You can read about it all over the place. ABC News has something you can find right now. The title is nearly five hundred cases of
measles reported across nineteen states colon CDC. That's according to the CDC. That's one of the places that there might be cuts happening. There are cuts happening. Who cares, right, doesn't matter, We're fine.
Yeah, everybody, just drink your diethete. You're doctor peppers zero right, yep, this is yeah.
Listen, listen to this. Children and teenagers between ages five and seventeen make up the majority of the cases one hundred and sixty four cases, followed by children ages four and under comprising one hundred and thirty one cases.
And children are a huge vector of transmissible disease.
Yep, yep. Here are the states, just so you know, Alaska, California, Florida, Georgia, Kansas, Kentucky, Maryland, Michigan, Minnesota, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Tennessee, Texas, Vermont, and Washington.
Oh So the Dakota's get away so far? All right, all right, Yeah. We talk about this kind of stuff folks pretty often, because it always it can always sound, to Matt's point, like it is an ephemeral thing that can be contained. But we need to realize that in an increasingly connected world, something that appears small in one place can become huge, right, can become an existential threat and I'm thinking now of the ongoing war zones as well, Like, we don't get a lot of reports that go public
on communicable disease in the many war zones. Given the pack pox of Americana is on the way out and China is scooting around Taiwan ever closer, there's a lot of stuff for people to ignore, and you just can't ignore it.
Yeah, this is something I do want to say about the measles thing. I was reading a bit about that we all are probably right now reading about measles. One of the treatments is a hefty dose of vitamin A too get a child through the through measles basically to survive it. And one of the major major problems that's being seen, at least in some of the places that are reporting, because there's a huge undercount of all this stuff right now because of the issues happening with the
federal agencies and health departments across every state. Vitamin A toxicity is a real thing. So if a child is being treated with a bunch of vitamin A four measles, then they're running the risk of intense kidney and liver damage due to the vitamin A like too much in their system. So there's health agencies and hospitals around the country right now are dealing with this kind of cyclical thing.
Right, Like this is a great point because think of the body weight I saw like Dennis Reynolds saying, you haven't thought of the smell or whatever, but but think of the body weight between a four year old human and a twelve year old human, both infected with measles, both given maybe the same dose of vitamin A, those will have very different effects and possibly damaging.
Yeah, as to lessen the effects that measles have on the I think it's the eyes and like the vision system of a human. So you give that to somebody while they are have while they are experiencing measles in real time, and then you can hurt them even worse. Just scary stuff.
Yeah, I guess. I guess the next solution will be to send everyone with measles to El Salvador.
Mm hmmm, you like that, Seguay, let's talk about let's let's end with that one, because it's one of the stories where someone doing their job, they think they're doing their job, but they mess up and that has dire consequences.
Yeah, it's important, So you're saying it. It matters to you. It matters to me as well. I think more importantly, it matters to all of us together, friends and neighbors. This story stands out to me. I don't know how well it will age our reporting on this, but it's important for you to know. And you're the most important part of this show. So Kilmar Armando Abrego Garcia, twenty nine years old. He has been I wouldn't even say deported, I would say renditioned to a prison in Al Salvador
for a long time. Picture it this way. You're Garcia, You're not even thirty. You're in a great relationship, you're up and coming at your job. You have two you have three kids total, right, and one of your kids is autistic, and you're driving home. You're a sheep metal
apprentice in Baltimore, Maryland. You've got your five year old son who is nonverbal in the car, just picked him up from obuela, right, just picked him up from his grandmother's and you get pulled over, right, and people tell you that your immigration status, despite the fact that you are here legally, you are married to a US citizen, they say your immigrant status has changed. They say, you look like you're in MS thirteen, and we've talked about
MS thirteen in the past. Uh, and then they rendition you, they send you to one of the worst prisons in the world. I'm not talking about my opinion. I don't think my opinion matters. I'm talking about the facts. This should concern people.
Oh for sure. Well, we just did an episode on the Disposition Matrix, which was targeting terrorists, and then we know that certain organization like MS thirteen have been determined by the US government to be terrorist organizations.
Which honestly I agree, yeah, I agree with it.
So it makes you wonder, what does some group within you know, some government organization see when they look at this individual, right, what do they think they see?
Right? What can what kind of tea leaves can you read from tattoos?
Precisely, we're unable to know the evidence against this person. He as an individual, is not aware of the evidence against him. No evidence has been shown to prove he is this person, that exactly, and so they send him to a prison in a different country. They deport him to a prison in a different country. That is well, and then the argument isn't the argument right now that it would be too difficult to reverse this mistake that the government says they've made.
Yeah, that's Look, we're getting mixed signals right now from people who are supposed to give unified signals or stance. We know that the idea goes back to an act in the US called the Alien Enemies Act, which is honestly, just objectively, as a writer, that is a really cool name, but it is a really dangerous evil and broad set
of laws or set of ideas. And the concept here is that you can target people that you see as a threat to national security or that you Honestly, it's so broad, it's like anyone you don't like, you can just kick them out. The problem is we see precedent here. You know, this is getting close to I'll say it on air, and this is getting close to night and folk.
Yeah, oh yeah, you can the AP News article you shared here. Ben says the allegations about this this individual and his affiliation with MS thirteen stem from a twenty nineteen arrest outside a Maryland home depot store where he and other young men were looking for work. County police asked if he was a gang member and demanded information about other gang members. He explained, I'm not a gang member.
I have no information. He was turned over to IC and then there was another immigration hearing about this individual where they said they had a confidential informant claimed he was a member of MS thirteen.
Sure, buddy, what did your CI get for that one? You know what I mean? And also, yeah, local police verified gang membership. But how is that defined? Like does look, we have a lot of friends in the audience tonight who are fans of Chicago Bulls. That does not make you a member of MS thirteen. No, it's a reach. It's a dangerous reach. There are kids who have lost their father. Is that guy going to make it back
from El Salvador? So we have to go to the lawyer for Garcia, Simon Sandeval Mosenberg who said or Muzenberg who said, there were multiple opportunities to legally attempt to use the rule of law to deport Garcia. However, in each one of these situations, there would be a court that would be the opportunity to defend, to appeal. They didn't do anything. They just put them on the plane.
They blackbaged them, essentially, And this should be frightening to everyone because if you are hearing this in the United States. This means it could happen to you. It really does.
Yeah, if whatever new version of that disposition matrix that exists right now that they're using is aimed at you, you could also just get deported because somebody thinks something about you or somebody said something about you.
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