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We are going to uh, we're going to talk about some sheep. We're going to talk about something that stumped the Pentagon.
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We might get to some of the ongoing conspiracies about natural disasters, some alternate theories on pagers, a little fact we mentioned about the postal service. But before we get to any of that, we are going to hear from Max the Unblind. Before we get to Max the Unblind, we're gonna have a quick word from our sponsors.
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Hello, stuff. They don't want you to know, crue. I would like you to call me Max the Unblind, and I would absolutely love it if you use this on your show. I like to start off with business first. There's been a story that's been going around here in Kentucky about a sheriff that walked into a judges chamber and murdered him in cold blood, apparently in Lecher County, Kentucky. The reason I'm calling you about this is because, as far as I can tell, no news outlet wants to
talk about this. It's actually already to find information about it. And with this this hurricane, you know, the election stuff like that, I'm afraid it's going to get lost in all the news. And I'm glad that this happened, even though you know, I don't like it when people get murdered, because I've wanted to have an excuse to call you,
guys and thank you. I went blind about seven years ago, and one of the first things my family did for me was they bought me an election device because you can use.
It with just your voice.
And you know, first thing I did was I listened to music and to test it out. And as soon as my family left the hospital room I was in, I turned on your podcast. I've been listening to it ever since. I really appreciate you guys, and that's why my name is Max the Unblind because I'm blind, but you guys, you guys help me see the truths truth
of thing. Anyway, I would love it if you use it on this podcast, very specifically, if you do use it on the podcast, please use this recording and not the other two recordings where I sound like an idiot. All right, thank you.
I'm sure you don't. Max appree you don't.
Well, no, he does not, but it is true. He left messages and I kept trying to figure out, well, oh okay, no this is the one. Oh wait, no, this is the one, and that was the one. So thank you so much, Max for calling in with those kind words. That means a ton to us. You have no idea. We hope you're doing.
Okay.
I got to spend a little bit of time with Max on the phone, you guys, and I don't want to go into his personal story about how he went blind, but it is a very It's one of those strange medical things where you go to the hospital because you're not feeling really well. One day, your blood pressure is spiking, and then your vision starts getting weird, and then a couple more times it happens, and then eventually you go
blind because stuff isn't functioning. Your blood pressure isn't working properly, something's going wrong inside, and then parts of your eye towards the back of your head there start to go bad.
And then you lose your eyesight.
It's really unfortunate, but Max is doing really great right now, and we couldn't be happier that we're a part of your world, dude. Indeed, so the reason why Max called in right he wanted a reason to call in is about a Kentucky sheriff that allegedly killed a judge like in the courthouse in the chambers. And at the time when Max first called, this was just a local Kentucky story. It wasn't being reported anywhere outside of that area since that time, because you guys know that it's kind of
a backlog on our end of voicemails. They're not coming in on a Tuesday and then we're getting them that day or even on the Thursday. Generally it takes a little while to get through them. Well, it has become a huge story. Everybody in PR the New York Post, people, CBS, News, CNN, everybody is talking about this. BBC's talking about this. It is a very strange story, and I figured we'd jump in to learn about it at least a little bit. So first let's go to BBC, of all places, who
wrote about it on September nineteenth, twenty twenty four. The title is if you want to look it up, Kentucky sheriff held over fatal shooting of judge in court. I'm going to read a bit of this written by Nadine Yusef. District Judge Kevin Mullins died at the scene after being
shot multiple times in the Letcher County Courthouse. According to Kentucky State Police and a person, a county sheriff named Sean Steins, who was forty three at the time, has been charged with one count of first degree murder, and according to the best sources at the time, back in the middle of September, the shooting happened after some kind of argument inside the court. But at that time, when it was first being talked about like this, there was
no motive. Nobody understood why it happened. There were so many questions why in the heck would one of the top members of law enforcement in the area walk into a judge's chambers and shoot that judge. So the speculation, as you can imagine, was pretty wild. It happened on a Thursday, and right after it happened, the sheriff who did the shooting, at least allegedly was arrested on the scene.
No problems, no incidents, no anything. He shot this person, at least according to witnesses and according to the official story, and then just said okay, yeah, basically take me in.
I don't know.
Have you guys heard about this story at all?
Not a bit. Yeah.
I found it on a couple of forums and I was reading into as you said, Oh first, let me step back, MAXI I'm blind. Thank you so much. It's a fantastic message, and please feel free always to reach out to us. When I first heard about this was on some forums learning about Electric County, which I had not heard of before this. The connections that seemed to proliferate as people learn more about the case at first seemed, you know, maybe people were reading tea leaves or seeing
things that weren't there. But there are a lot there's a lot of context to this that emerged earlier. Like I was not aware he was a bailiff before he was sheriff, so he was working for the court previously. And I guess he must have been a not unpopular sheriff because he was elected twice. Right, he was re elected in twenty eighteen, reelected in twenty twenty two.
Mm hmm.
And I got that from the New York Times, from Emmett Lendler.
I just can't imagine what it would take for someone to walk into a situation like that so publicly knowing they were going to do something that was going to end of their life for all intents and purposes, walk out surrender like this must have been intensely personal.
Well, this is where it gets really weird. This is coming from NPR, written on October eighth of this year. You can look it up. The title is video shows the moment a Kentucky judge was shot to death. Listen to this and this is weird, police say. Lectri County Sheriff Mickey Steins dialed his daughter's phone number from the judge's phone then pull his gun and shot.
Mullins repeatedly sounds like there was a relationship going on and he was being an angry father and like calling him on it and saying, you know, like checking his phone, you know, do you know what I mean?
Doesn't it sound like that?
But but listen to this further. Kentucky State Police clarified that they have no evidence the daughter's phone number was on the judge's phone before the sheriff dialed it, So why would he do that?
Well, then it maybe the idea was simply to obscure that was him hauling. But apparently he also told the employees of the court that he needed to talk to the judge privately, and then he surrendered himself. Right he arrested without incident, but right right after firing the shots, he walks outside and peaceably surrenders.
Yeah, and there's video of this entire thing happening, and people have watched it. People have watched the video because he was charged immediately afterwards with first degree murder, and of course the sheriff, you know it, gets arrested. He resigns as sheriff. He pleads not guilty to murder, even though there is video evidence of him doing it, and like so many witnesses and it's just like.
What And it wasn't his first time on the wrong side of a court room, right.
Oh yeah, well I would tell us about that.
So this is from the Courier Journal. Back in twenty twenty two, there were allegations of some pretty nasty sexual abuse that one of Stein's deputies had pressured a woman into having sexual intercourse with him and return for some kind of favorable treatment. So it occurred through a proxy at least the pressure on this victim. Oh, and that
article is by Andrew Wolfson. You can find it suit aledges Kentucky deputy forced woman to have sex in judge's chamber in lieu of fees so instead of having to pay court fees.
Yeah, I'll give you a little bit more from this NPR article because it is this is a twisted tail. Several days before Stein's allegedly killed the judge, he was interviewed for hours in a deposition in a suit that names him Stein's in his capacity as sheriff. The lawsuit claimed that Steins knew or should have known, that a now former deputy had coerced a female drug defendant into having sex in exchange for freeing her from house arrest.
So that's the specific there. The defendant said Deputy Ben Fields had forster her to have sex with him in Judge Mullen's chambers after hours, so like after the courthouses in any kind of session, in exchange for Fields taking off her ankle monitor.
And the person filing the suit. The victim here is prisonamed Sabrina Atkins.
Hmmm, a man, So don't I don't know. There's even more, I would point everybody. Was it the Courtier Journal one the Kentucky judge shooting, what was alleged about former Sean Stein's motive?
This is there a couple of things from the That one is by Rachel Smith. There are a couple of other articles from Courier Journal. Yeah, and that the one that I was citing is from Andrew Wilson.
Okay, Well, there's a ton you can learn about this now, and so if anybody who's interested in it, go out there check it out. I did a quick little search just for the latest news about this case, and it looks like there's nothing brand new. Most of everything we've talked about is kind of the most up to date stuff, so do keep an eye on it. It seems like a weird case. Probably doesn't have a lot of bigger implications, but it is.
It is really weird.
I have to wonder what was said in that deposition.
Yeah, yeah, I just want to know.
Apparently the apparently the sheriff and the judge had like lunch together right before the shooting occurred. They were just hanging out with other people having lunch. Some things were said, and then at some point it was decided I need to shoot this guy. Pretty pretty crazy stuff, all right, Well, thank you so much, Max the Unblind. Anytime give us a hauler. We can't wait to hear from you again. If you want to call in, call one eight three
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And we have returned with more messages from you today. I brought two messages from you, YESU, one from t Bow and one from Restricted Free Agent. About two very different but then I know they have some things in common. I guess involving perhaps shipment and receiving of goods. That's about where the similarities in. So let's start with t Bone with some alternative theories explaining the exploding pager slash
two way radio debacle that we've talked about recently. Hey, guys, insert typical love the show comments here.
Okay, we're doing that in our minds and in our hearts.
Just finished listening to your discussion on the exploding pager and walkie talkies, and I want to disagree with the point that you thought Israel pushed the button because they felt their long term operation to insert the rig devices had been compromised.
I'd like to offer an alternative theory.
On the timeline of events, which I think is plausible and could be much more condensed. Step one Israel gets Hesbela leadership thinking their cell phones are compromised, and maybe they are. Step two, Israel learns of the orders for mass quantities of pagers and cell phones through the consultant group that we talked about. It's kind of the middleman in this deal, that's right. Step three, during shipment of
the devices, Israel intercepts them and plants the explosives. Step four shortly thereafter, the devices are distributed, and when Israel detects a reduction in cell phone traffic, they activate the pagers, then the WTS a couple of days later. By modifying the devices during shipment rather than being the manufacturer, it's
a shorter timeframe from distribution to detonation. This could enable a quicker response and I think would make the equipment more likely to actually be in the hands of Hesbala operators rather than potentially innocent victims. You can call me t Bone, feel free to read this on the air and let me know what you think. I will say, Ben, this isn't certainly isn't far off from what we were
talking about. I guess the main difference here is a slight tweak in the order of operations, and also the notion that perhaps we all I think brought this up at one point another Perhaps Israel felt that the jig was up and that they were about to be exposed, perhaps and that they needed to kind of pooper get off the pot, because they would have lost all of the investment in this operation if if it had been discovered and they you know, just tossed all of the phones.
I do have a question for you, Ben around t bones point about detecting a reduction in cell phone traffic. Do you have a sense of what that means or like how that might be a metric they would use in order to you know, kind of like align their timing.
Yeah.
Yeah, and it's a great point, t Bone, thank you so much for writing in Conspiracy adiheartradio dot com if
you ever want to drop us a line here. This is completely plausible because you we know that a nation state with this level of intelligence would be able to monitor phones I think pretty easily as well without having you know, obviously we're not in the meetings about monitoring the phones, but as as a metric, combined with later public statements from his below, that we know that they were directing associates of the organization to avoid using those
cell phones, even if they were, you know, their purposely their purpose made hesblah only cell phones, so you could see a measurable dip in there, and that might be a metric. As you said, NOLA indicates the right time to strike. I think we're all it just seems more plausible that there was a There was definitely premeditation and waiting,
There was definitely maybe a jig is up. I think it's more interesting while you're bringing up t Bone the idea of inserting the explosive apparatus at some point in the shipping process. You would just have to be really quick about it, wouldn't you. Wouldn't you have to also be able to seamlessly insert it such that it doesn't look as though the pager has been tampered with.
Exactly you, guys, I don't want a t Bone thing. Thank you for this. I'm gonna quickly reference another voicemail that Plebe Fri end of the show Pleb sent in. Rather than an intercepting and you know, inserting the explosives, what if it was a swap, Like if you just imagine boxes of pagers and the intelligence is aware of which like pager models they are. They've already prefabricated the exact same type of pager, just with the explosive in it.
So when the call to have these shipped from the consultant right or ordered via the consultant, they literally just switch boxes rather than having to open individual pages.
That's a cool thought.
Please, it is.
And I guess, guys, as another of the added details here, maybe we didn't discuss was that not only are they distributing pagers but also burner cell phones, and that they're in control of those as well, and that that's what's allowing them to monitor the traffic, because that definitely was in the point here in step two that t boone outline, Israel learn of the orders from mass quantities of pagers
and cell phones through the consultant group. During shipment of the devices, Israel intercepts them and plants the explosives, but not in cell phones.
There are no exploding cell phones, only exploding pagers.
You also wouldn't need physical access to those cell phones, if I'm understanding this correctly, You also wouldn't need physical access to those cell phones to monitor.
That's what I'm saying.
They're in control, they just don't have to, like I mean, to your point, then they could monitor maybe if they didn't know which phones they were, but I guess if they're going dark and going into kind of like operations mode, they wouldn't be using the phones as much. They'd be relying specifically on the pagers, and so that's why they're looking for the drop in cell phone used. And at that point, most likely the people that would be mobilized using the pagers, would be members of HESBLO.
And it may even be I mean this is purely conspiratorial speculation. It may even be the kind of thing where you drive people to those decisions, right like you let it be known that the cell phones are compromised, thus pushing.
People toward the pagers, Yes.
And then they pushed toward the walkie talkies, and you've got them there as well. These are possible, and I do believe that we will t bone learn more about the specifics of that operation later on in the future. We just don't know when. Probably not immediately, but in a few years. These kind of things usually get the story gets told, you.
Know, guys.
Thinking about the story again and kind of trying to look at it from different angle made me think of another story or kind of perked my ears up when I heard a mention of this other story. The FBI actually basically started their own startup company that offered these cell phones that were very attractive to criminals because they offer this kind of like special encryption or whatever, and they marketed them, you know, the FBI, to criminals, and then we're able to use them when they were in
the criminal's hands to execute a massive sting operation. So this kind of felt like a precedent almost that we didn't talk about, and I thought that was something that would be worth mentioning here.
Yeah, anom A n O M. That's the that's the FBI phone, right. I only know about this. There's a book called Dark One Dark Wire, and it's coming out as a Netflix series. Actually, that was the news that brought up in the press recently. I didn't know that, but I remember the book by guy named Joseph Cox. It's a great read. But I'm so glad you brought that up, Noel, because look, these kind of operations don't go as planned all the time, right, because they're often
at the forefront of technology. If you want to learn more about anom which which you just mentioned there, Noel, check out Dark Wire, the incredible true story the largest sting operation ever. It also reminds me too of the Long Lines building and our long standing fascination with that. You probably know about this already, t Bote, but check out the Long Line story if you haven't heard it before.
It is it is the true story of why there is a ginormous windowless skyscraper in the heart of Manhattan.
Yeah, it's the place where the intelligence community literally splits all communications off, so that there is the communications that occur and then the intelligence apparatus feed of the exact same copied communications.
Yeah, just absolutely, And I think it's still on the feed somewhere.
Didn't we record a live episode about the Longlines Building years back?
Yeah, you can search that out.
But I just want to mention too, just in terms of the precedent of the ANOM story. They the FBI got twelve thousand units of this product into the hands of various criminals, from drug traffickers to members of organized crime and all of that stuff.
So it you know, the novelty of.
The Israel version of the grift I guess as implanting explosives, but that could have just easily been done in this situation, though maybe the net was a little wider, but in terms of like the types of folks that got it, and they were mainly appealing to them as a business, and they were breaching out and buying them directly as opposed to intercepting them. And you know from a company that these individuals were already purchasing them from.
But I do think it's interesting parallels there.
Yeah, because you know, if you look at the ADOM operation from the FBI's perspective, like we said, after there after people who are engaged in things like drug trafficking, right, which is not a capital punishment offense in the United States. So blowing up the cell phone and killing them is, you know, circumvents the way rule of law is supposed to work in this country. But I think you're absolutely right.
You're astute there that this is another precedent I was focusing I guess with I think thank you for me it's the explosive.
As Yeah, that's the new twist on this.
Well, thank you Tibo and really quickly, guys, I know I'm running a little out of time, but I just thought this was worth reading. Got another one here coming from Restricted Free Agent. He asks us to use this moniker because of what he's talking about. He knows this organization could potentially come after him for what he's about to tell us. I love the show, says Restricted Free Agent. I've been catching up, so I'm sorry if you've already
covered this. We have it about ten months back and listen to you guys or stuff you should know every day on the route to keep my sanity. I'm a letter carrier and have been for a little over a decade, and we're divided into city carriers and rural carriers, which is just a dumb fact for you. As a city carrier. We've been without a contract for almost a year and a half. They spent all of COVID telling us how
important we were. We watched ups get a huge pay raise as a reward for how they dealt with COVID. But our union and the Post Office have been yanking our chain while telling us how important we are to democracy for this election. It's pretty insulting, and even more so because we aren't allowed to strike due to federal law.
It's called the Lloyd la Falette Act.
This was new to I think Ben, you and me, and I'm sure Matt that you might not be fully aware of this either, the Lloyd la Fallette Act. The last time the letter carriers did strike, the National Guard was called in and failed miserably to do our jobs. Again, the National Guard called in to replace the Yes, the scats.
One hundred percent.
The Post office is filled with bloat and corruption, but the people delivering your mail don't have a contract and are the only ones out in the elements and will be blamed after this election no matter.
What we do by whoever loses.
Also, politicians pay almost nothing for all that junk election mail you throw away every day. I sure do sometimes keep some of the really absurd ones as little historical keepsakes. We have carriers who are on government assistance, and I've never once heard about our lack of contract on the news because it's the definition.
Of stuff they don't want you to know.
Oh beautiful, well done, restrictive free agent. And we definitely want to get that out into the world because, as he said, Noel, if you were startle to realize that there's not a legal ability to strike, it just it doesn't make sense because we associate unions so inextricably with that kind of exercise of worker power. And actually reached out to a buddy of ours who is a postal service worker in Colorado and wanted to talk to my
local mail carrier about this. But he's busy, you know, because when I see him is a work So I'm going to try to catch him.
I'm going to try to.
Catch him when he goes by our local diner in the neighborhood here, but hopefully we can and gets more firsthand evidence. But yeah, thank you so much. Restrictive free agent, that is, it just doesn't like I understand it. I understand, you know, the idea that the mail must always continue, but it feels like you could make a strong argument that need has been weaponized against the actual carriers.
Yeah, and we know that the US Post Service has been in a pretty tough spot in recent history, under attack one hundred percent, and it just doesn't seem like this level of harsh kind of treatment would be conducive to retaining high quality employees.
Or a sustainable we're going to say, I mean, it's it almost if it feels like we can not not associate it with the the move to cripple and gut the USPS, which has been going on for decades, you know, and further privatizing the mail, you know, through ups. Oh, that's very similar to PGL and PGA three ups and through FedEx and stuff like that. And we've got a lot of people working for those private organizations and they have their own stuff they don't want you to know
as well. And I'm sure you know that too. Restrictive free agent. But this is I agree, this is something people need to be talking about more often. Not to be too Joni Mitchell about it, but the US Postal Service is something you might not miss till its gone, you know what I mean. And there are people who want to cut those public services that you pay for as a as a person in the United States.
Yeah, I'm just guys, just as a person who experiences mail, the ye old snail mail. It is one of those things that feels like eventually we're probably gonna move away from. And I don't know, simply because unless you're unless you're in a specific job or of a specific standing where you're constantly sending correspondence back and forth or you know, legal document or things like that, there's no reason for it. And generally you would use like a secured FedEx shipment
or something for a legal document. So it is crazy to think about. And that's nothing against you, restricted free agent, or anybody who's working in that field. It just feels like something that humans are moving away from.
Well, and I can't imagine that restricted free agent is going to put up with this kind of crap for much longer before they start to look elsewhere. Whether it be fed x ups or some other private organization for employment.
I think that's it for me. Guys, thanks to t Bone and Restricted Free Agent for your messages.
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And we have returned. This is the final act of our weekly listener mail segment. We are going to hear let's say, we'll keep it really brief because there are two things want to get to. We're going to save the Hurricane Helene and Milton conspiracy theories for a future episode. It's our update on natural disasters, so stay tuned for that. In the meantime, we had a lot of people writing in about the hybrid sheep story that we talked about briefly on our Strange News segment. And you guys remember
this story. This is about Arthur Schubarth Jack to his friends who illegally bred and sold these gigantic sheep hybrid sheep clones to big Game preserves. He recently got sentenced to six months in prison and twenty four grand USD and fines. So Jasper and many other folks wrote in about this. Hello, folks, says Jasper. There are two main dangers that were probably considered in the indictment of the
guy cloning sheep. One these sheep were hybrids. He used tissue from a large wild sheep called the Marco Polo sheep, and artificially inseminated female clones using collected from the testicles of a hunted bighorn sheep. If the resultant hybrids went on to breed with wild bighorn sheeps, whether by escaping their pins or big horn sheep passed through their pastures, that could mess up the genetic integrity of the species and introduce traits that might reduce the ability of bighorn
sheep to survive in the rocky mountains. So no pause there, because that's a pretty interesting argument, right, the creation of an invasive species or the eradication of a species because of invasive genetic traits.
Wow, invasive genetics, that's a concept.
That's a dangerous one.
Agreed.
And the next point, which we were not aware of, Jasper tells us bighorn sheep are very susceptible to infections that don't cause serious diseases in other sheep. A major example, and thank you for the pronunciation note here, Jasper is Mycoplasma ovia nomine ovia mine.
Domino patri a blessing from a priest.
So in domestic sheep, this causes mild or asymptomatic illness, but it will absolutely obliterate the big horn sheep in an area if it's introduced. And Jasper is telling you us this because Jasper is friends with some colleagues that research this specific infection in domestic sheep. So there are these incredibly robust, rigid regulations about what species of sheep or goat can be imported and from where, and how they can be kept to minimize the potential of cross
contact with big horn sheep. This is not a hypothetical risk. Jasper, you linked us to a great source from the Justice Department of the United States themselves, And I think when stuff gets to the DOJ, it means it's pretty serious. Because it reminds me we talked a little bit about this. It reminds me of the restraints that UH Hawaii has on the importation of food or animals right or especially fruits, and imagine invasive species that seem fun at first, like
probably hamsters. They probably can't bring hamsters into Hawaii. They'll just overrun the place because they want be a hamster. Why moving? So we had another We had another person follow up with a more i would say character centric opinion on this guy. Arthur Shoebarth agent Alkaline says recently in our local news, this story has been blowing up. This guy, Arthur's shoe Barth also owns a sketchy local
pet store in Great Falls, Montana. They kept all the animals, including puppies and kittens in aquariums and at one point monkeys, but that was before I lived there. How it stays open is anybody's guests. It's no prize. They showed absolutely no regard for endangered animals or animals at all. Thanks guys a huge fan. Keep it real.
There's a lot more to sheep law that I ever considered it. The specialty of the loss like bird law.
Yeah, yeah, I mean, I guess the invasive species aspect of it didn't really occur to me right up front, but it makes sense when you do have an economy that's like so dependent on that particular type of animal. And I did not realize that there were certain species that were more susceptible to these types of diseases that could result from this sort of you know, breeding.
And we know what a lot of us in the audience are thinking. Can I still use sheep law as part of my cover identity on an operation? The answer is probably not, because it turns out there are real sheep laws and you have to know what they are if you're going to plausibly impersonate a sheep attorney a big horn lawyer.
Wow.
Yeah, there's a word for somewhere.
Yeah, dude, guys. I found a Facebook page titled closed down Jack's Pet Center in Great Falls, Montana, and it has a bunch of information and photos of this guy's weird pet story that Alkaline mentioned.
Hmm, that's I mean, it sounds like it's been a controversy for a while. Also, Alkaline didn't read this particular phrase you used, but you said hand monkeys were also kept in aquariums. I didn't know that hand monkeys are a thing. We found finger monkeys, the smallest pet monkey you can own. They're pigmy marmosets. They're just like six inches big, not counting the tail, So maybe that's what you're talking about it. They've got these big magua vibes.
They look like Pokemon. I kind of want to hang out with one dude. Or if we're the CIA, well let's figure out how we can use them to spy. M hm, we have one more here. We'll get to letters from home next week. But we have won from some anonymous sources. Folks on Instagram as well. Hit us
to this crazy story. I don't know if you guys have heard about this, but not too too long ago, mystery drones swarmed a US military base for seventeen days, and as of last week, the Pentagon still officially doesn't know what's happening. This was over Langley Air Force Bace on Virginia's shoreline like Okay, for several nights. Military personnel in this place that is home to a bunch of the US's most advanced fighter jets, including Deaf twenty two's.
They had said, somebody is breaching our airspace. We like, this is airspace over Langley. This is one of the most tightly controlled airspaces in the country, and about forty five five minutes to an hour after sunset, a bunch of drones would arrive in the sky. They were roughly twenty feet long, fly at more than one hundred miles an hour at an altitude of three to four thousand feet, and then other drones would come in one by one. Want a shout out to Gordon Luebold, Lari Siligman, and
Aruna Viswanatha over at MSN for this article. You can find it there easily. The drones had a predictable path. They headed south across Chesapeake toward Norfolk. This means they went over the area that is the home base of Seal Team six and the world's largest naval port, Naval station Norfolk. Nobody knew who the drones were coming from. Was it possibly another agency, another department and they just had you know, crossed wires of paperwork. Was it possible
that they were a test from rival powers? I mean, look, a little quad copter you could buy off TIMU or Amazon and is not going to be one hundred miles an hour capable, and it's not going to be twenty feet long, right unless I'm looking at the wrong drones.
I don't think you are. Nope, No, okay, I.
Was hoping you guys were going to tell me, No, you can totally get like five of those and you get a price break. Yet this so this story is still developing. We haven't found an answer yet, but we know we know that there appears to be abnormal or unusual drone activity over US government sites in This occurred in December of twenty twenty three, so just when you know, we just learned about it and it happened a while back.
But two months before that, in October of twenty twenty three, five drones flew over a nuclear weapon experiment site in the US and they never got caught. This was in Vegas, and they don't know who operated the drones in Nevada, they don't know why they were there, what they were attempting to do. And a spokesperson for the facility, which is run by the Energy Department, said they've upgraded their system now to detect and counter drones, which means, you know,
cough cough, shoot them down or disable them. I'm wondering how they do it too, because you guys remember the uh oh gosh, you guys remember the training programs where people were teaching predatory birds to attack drones.
No, that sounds terrifying, though, Are these like falconers?
Like, yeah, it's they're red tailed hawks. And I think you are correct now, I think there are falconers involved. The story came out like, oh my gosh, get this. Twenty fourteen was ten years ago, guys, The story came out ten years ago.
Wow. Old.
So I'm sure that program continues apace. But this is also telling us something big is a foot or in the sky, because.
Did you just say bigfoot in the sky?
A foot in the sky. It couldn't be a bigot in the sky.
It's a it's a bigfoot swing as far as puns go. But it reminds me too of the Chinese spy balloon that floated across the country while we were recording.
How could we forget the Chinese spy balloon?
Right, Yes, we'll always have the Chinese spy balloon. And so these drones, over the course of more than two weeks, flying off, circling back. I'm wondering why they couldn't track them, Like why they couldn't find where they were landing, because they had to be landing somewhere nearby, right, they couldn't be just flying over the Atlantic every night shortly after us.
No, they'd have to have some sort of pit stop location.
So do you guys have any guesses? Before we wrapped today.
Bro, your guess is as good as mine.
I guess these are all horrible, and the doctor SUSI and level. My guess is maybe someone is like the best possible scenario is that someone is doing internal testing what we would call pen testing, right, penetration testing, the drone equivalent of white hat hacking. Then, I don't know, it's equally interesting to see how they were figuring out how they might try to catch these One guy said, hey, why don't we get the US Coast Guard to shoot
nets at them. I'm sure somebody brought up the falcon thing, and then someone else said what if we use directed energy? And then someone in the FAA also probably responded on the email or in the meeting and said, yeah, the problem with directed energy is that you know, you might miss and hit an aircraft.
Yeah, with people on it.
All right, a counter drone program. And these drones have tethered electro magnets attached to them, so they fly close to the other drones and then they zap them with the electromagnet and then bring the drones back.
Hmm, there we go. I like that. I like the use of the magnets. I also, you know, if we're talking about government largesse. Why don't we just build a duplicate of all this stuff over there in Norfolk Rangley, Right, and then now we just have two. I feel like I pay a lot of taxes. I feel like we could do that, So do just.
You know, guys, I'll always think it. We really need a second pentagon just in case the first one gets compromised.
Yes, yes, we'll call the first one pentagony Pentagon one. It works in print, never mind, but yeah, we'll have We'll have P and two P or not two P, that's the question. Yeah. So a there is an explanation spinning this story out a little bit, and please check
out the articles because it's a fantastic explanation. After everybody was trying to figure out what happened, there was a rainy morning on January sixth, a guy named Fegion She has parked a rented Tesla near Newport News, Virginia, eleven miles from Langley, and he is a student at the University of Minnesota, and he was trying to fly a drone. He told people in the area that his drone got stuck in a tree and he tried to free it
using his controller when a neighbor called the police. The police show up and they say, hey, man, this is terrible weather to fly a drone. And this is like the black mirror version of a cat stuck in a tree. So they tell him to call the fire department and they'll help him out. Instead, she returns his car, his tesla. He takes an Amtrak to DC and then he flies to California. So this is, by the way, the behavior of someone who's been made and not a UFM student.
And so the drone falls to the ground. The Feds get it, and they find that the drone has photographs navy vessels and dry dock shots taken around midnight, and some shots were of vessels that were being constructed in the shipyard. They arrest him on January eighteenth, just a few days later, as he is about to hop a flight to China on a one way ticket, and he said, look, no, I'm not you know, I'm not doing anything crazy. I just like chips, you guys, I didn't know it was restricted airspace.
I love boats are cool, you know, dude, Yeah, of course.
And I was just heading back, you know, I was just doing my thing here, doing my little hobby and I'm just going.
To head home.
And so spoiler, they don't buy his story. They say that he is guilty of unlawfully and knowingly taking photos of classified naval installations. And this is the first case of a drone that came up under USS bionage law.
He said he had been on vacation, he flew drones of Mill Night for fun, his h The judge ends up saying some the six months in prison and she's attorney against the award for the For the best quote in the case, Chao Mingcheng says, if he was a foreign agent, he would be the worst spy ever known, like worse than James Bond. And that's where we're going to end the story. You can learn more, but I like, let's end on this question. Guys, there was more than
one drone. What happened to the other? You know, college students.
Don't don't dum lifting dude.
They investigated a haunted house together and then it's.
Sorry it was old man Willickers from the Haunted amusement park called.
Yeah, they've trained the falcons to attack the people controlling the drones now too, death by falcon, Big big things that Jasper DJ big, big things to ancient alkaline maxium, blind t bone, restricted agent, everybody who wrote in.
Guys really quickly, as we wrap up, have you heard the theory that these Tesla robots are actually just being controlled remote controlled by somebody?
Yes?
And have you heard that the guy who did the design for what film.
I Robot, I Robote Alex Proyees, who also directed The Crow and Dark City the design Furst City. I love Dark City and I love the original Crow, but the both the vehicles and the robots themselves appear to have been completely lifted from that film.
Yeah, dude, Yeah, very much so.
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