BANKRUPT AGAIN?! Katie Price Tells All: Boob Jobs, Bankruptcy, and Battling Suicide.

Just please give us a few moments of your time . Guys , matt Haycox here and welcome to another episode of Stripping Off with Matt Haycox , I normally say , where we strip our guests off metaphorically . But this is probably my first guest who won't mind stripping off anyway . She needs no introduction , she's been on the show before . Katie Price , good morning .

You were the biggest guest I'd had on , and A I wasn't the best speaker and B I was probably , let's say , nervous to bring you into line , so I just I let you ramble , I stuttered my way through it .

But when I knew we were doing this , I thought I want to talk about some different stuff that A I haven't done to death and B you haven't done to death as well . So I thought I'm going to have to go back and watch it , just so I know what we talked about .

But you know , even like with that , I think , men , if they want a brace to have Botox and a bit of filler , why can't men do it ? It's the same with women . But , yeah , you look fresher , you look slimmer , thank you . Yeah , you look better than the last time I saw you have .

spoke yeah uh , which was just after covid . Obviously , we we met , uh , we met through the podcast , spoke a few times after and we last spoke as you were coming out of the priory in about two . This is about march 2020 . Covid's about to start and you've gone into the priory in about this is about March 2020 .

Covid's about to start and you'd gone into the Priory , and then I broke my feet and then you broke your feet . But before you broke your feet , tell me why did you go into the Priory ? What ?

I've got severe PTSD and I was in there for severe trauma rehabilitation and I still see the therapist and a consultant now because I just think it's good for my head , because I still have a lot of shit going on but I know how to deal with it .

But to be honest , I've been in them both times for the same kind of reason Media exes and the pressures when you get depressed . And it starts when you sort of get depressed .

Depressed is because you can't handle everything , all the pressures of everything , and then it was the exes then , like they were trying to say about the bankruptcy , about the tax and that . But when you're depressed and ill you start not communicating with anyone . So I didn't want to pick my phone up to anyone , didn't want to answer my emails .

Then you getting bills through . Then you're like , oh , I've got that bill . Now , I've got that bill , that bill , and before you know it it becomes a massive noise in your head , like noise , and I didn't know how to cope . So then I'd go down and down more , didn't want to send it to the police , I just had a breakdown , um .

And then obviously the husband was it that time or was it before then I can't remember who cheated on me . I can't remember who I was with then Because I've been in there twice it's all like one noise to me .

You got this amount of days to pay this amount , this amount , and then you get more bills , more bills . And the thing is when you're , when you're someone like me , if I don't go to work , no one can replace me . I am the product and I hate that word , but I realise I'm a product . I have been to people . I've realised people weren't my friends .

They're like use me as a product , what they can earn money from , and then they don't care . So when you're in a situation like that , you realise who's really your friend and who's not . So I had to get rid of a lot of people around me . So I had the breakdown . I was in there five weeks both times five weeks and it's really hard in the Priory .

I think people just think you just sit in there and do nothing . You don't . You go to your lessons . When I say lessons , they're all tight . I don't know if you ever been in the private or anything like that .

You all sit in circles and you hear each other's stories , ones who want to talk , some don't , because they just haven't even got the energy to talk , or You'd be talking for them , wouldn't you ? haven't even got the energy to talk , or you'd be talking about that , wouldn't you ?

I did talk a lot in there , yeah , um , but yeah , you get to learn about validation , self-worth , assertiveness . They get to the root . They go into your brain to find out your triggers , what's triggered you off to get in this ? I mean , it's so interesting art therapy . Art therapy is you walk in the session and every time it's different .

They might say , right in the next 10 minutes , I want you to draw or put down on paper what's going on in your head today , like that , and you get loads of different sizes of papers , colours , pens , chalks , felt tips .

I chose an A3 size paper and the quarter of it , I drew a line down it and I put all stick men like falling with no faces , and then above each one I put who were my problems , so like media , police , social manager and some of the exes' names , because they were the ones who were causing that in my brain .

And then the other side , I drew a palm tree , sunshine , all my animals , the kids , all smiley faces , sunshine , because that's what I wanted . But at the moment I'm dealing with that bit . That was what was on my mind and how they analyse it , because that's why I was in there . It's weird how they do it .

And then another time I did art therapy , a different , but you have to style it with a door , you have to draw a door and I drew my front door , so I suppose it's working towards . Um .

So basically I'll cut it short because I could be all day talking about therapy is now , if there's any bills , pressure , pressure , anything like this , at the end of the day , it whether it's bad or not . If you communicate , that's , that's the key . If as soon as you ignore things , that's when it becomes a problem .

So always communicate and then they know you're still there , not ignoring , so the problem doesn't get worse . You've just got to communicate . If you're in a bankruptcy or anything , you set up a payment plan .

Do all this because , at the end of the day , there's so many people in this bankruptcy and it's so annoying that the media every day bankruptcy Kate , bankruptcy Kate it's like , yeah , we get it , she's in a bankruptcy . So many people get getting a bankruptcy .

in another one . I didn't even know about that . I read that in the paper .

But I'm not ashamed of it . I've turned a leaf around . I've come out of a really bad dark place and the way my brain's connected now it's like it's okay , you can deal with it , it's fine . It's not the end of the world . You're not dying . You've still got your family . You've still got your friends . You've still got your house , my house is safe .

Everyone's always like , oh , her house is good , my house is safe . Bankruptcies are different with all different people , and people have to remember that you can get insolvency or I'm still learning it all myself , but I've just got to deal with it . I'm fine , I'm working .

I feel like I've done a reset button from when I first started modelling and my headspace . Then I feel like I've gone back to that . I've had all these years of being ripped off , stitched up you name it in shit places , this , that .

And now , through therapy , I feel like I've gone through a washing machine tumble dry , come out the other end , learnt it all . And now I feel like I've reset the button , because now the doors are all open .

I'm positive , manifest the double numbers , and now I'm like Kate , it's okay , you're here , you're alive , you've gone through it , you've survived , and now it's just starting again . Not starting again , I mean my mindset starting again . I'm earning well , I'm focused , my mindset starting again . I'm earning well , I'm focused .

It's like I've started again because that makes it . But yeah , you have the bankruptcy , but you do payment plans when you pay them and then you just get on with it , rebuilding , and that's what I've done . I feel like I'm in a better mindset than what I was then and I'm earning again .

Because when you go through a stage of breakdown and the paper's right about it , people are like oh no , she can't be right to go near , because she's probably like mentally not . Do you know what I mean ? Mentally not able to work , or whatever . And I was like that .

But now I'm flying Like I'm having to turn work down now because I've learnt don't take everything on all at once .

I'll do my Only Fans , which I fucking love doing , because that's like the Jordan stuff , although I don't get nipples out or show anything , it's just like when I used to do Loaded FHM , and I love being in front of the camera . I'm a show-off , I love it . You can't take that away from me , so I also do that .

Like me doing my shoots I used to do no different , but I love it and it's good for my head because it's all I used to know and love doing . So I do that Literally . I am so busy . And then I'm doing a lot of what are they called gay prides , doing half-hour singing sets , but once you've done that , the TV I'm just full .

And then I'm starting my YouTube channel up again because I left that . It's so hard to build subscribers on that , but I'm opening that again . I want to do more reality on that again . So , yeah , busy .

do . Oh yeah , no , I do .

You think they're close when really they just want their 20% . I don't trust anyone anymore . Matt , like nobody .

What I mean is I've got such a good thing around me , so now I'm able to go to work , come back , enjoy stuff with my kids , instead of me coming back having to clean , do the washing . I've just got everything all set up nice , so now I can go to , I can concentrate , and I'm bringing my format back . I want to do my perfumes , bikinis , my underwear .

I'm bringing it all back . But it's taken a few years to get to this point because mentally I wasn't strong enough . Don't get me wrong .

Behind the scenes I'm still dealing with stuff with the kids , situations there , which isn't nice , and there's been a couple of court dates I've had to go to and obviously I've still seen my consultant because I still have to look after my brain and my head and myself .

But to sit in court and be ridiculed by media and barristers and have public there , my head's not ready for that . So it's slow steps , but I'm in control of everything . I know what I'm doing , I know what my head can take and I never knew how to handle all that before . So I feel in a good place now and I'm working loads and I love it .

I just love it . Yeah , I'm loving it .

it's also not not realistic to say that every single person in the world is a prick no , I don't see . Yeah , no I mean , would you say you've been a bad judge of character ?

And then , even if they end up overstaying , I'm not the kind of person to say , look , I think you've overstayed , now you need to go and inside it would more wind me up but I'd still be nice .

Don't think , oh , kate's going to pay , kate . It's situations like that where I feel I've got the real people around . Of course , I'm always open . I have found new friends as well , who I love and amazing . So , yeah , I am still open for new friendships and stuff .

I've still got some of my old friends , but there's a lot of people around me who I realise weren't ?

I'm like , oh , should we get the go and do something like normal , normal friendship ? Do you know what I mean ? Or do you want to come around for lunch ?

I'll make you something , or we go there , or it's just equal balance , whereas before I realised it was just me giving me , offering , like I think that's because I might have been needed , thinking , oh , if I don't offer them to come here , or if they don't do that , they won't want to be my friend . You just go through all of that .

So now it's like no , if you've got a friend , you've both got to be in it together . It works . I suppose it's like a relationship , but I know , with the friends around me now I might not speak to them for a couple of months , but I could pick up the phone . We just pick off where we are .

That's what I call a friend or I've got a couple of friends I haven't , might not seen for a year , not because that , just because we're busy and they don't and we don't live near each other , but then when we see each other we just finish off where we started .

itself . You're always upset .

Now , if I do want to see someone or see them , the papers would be like oh , she's a slag , or she's with another and another one . So it doesn't really give me that much of an option . I'd rather say , yeah , I'm with them , so I'm not with anyone else . It's a hard situation . I'm doomed or damned , whatever I do .

And it's like I haven't had as many people as what people think , because I've been married three times and yeah , I am 45 . So of course I've , I suppose every . I don't do dating , I don't go on dates , I haven't been on a dating site . So what ? Am I not allowed to just go for dinner with someone or something like that it's I can't win , whatever I do .

Do you know what I mean ? I can be on my own and I didn't want a relationship when I split with Cole because I was done with it . Done , done , done . And then , obviously , I met up with JJ and , like with JJ , it hasn't happened quick because we've been talking for months before .

But it's like , why do I have to explain to anyone out there what I'm doing and who I'm talking to ? But I think because he was on TV and people , some people recognize him when we're out or whatever it's . It's hard for me , but if I want to keep someone private , I can keep them private and if that person wants to be private , they can be private .

And I think that does scare a lot of people that they think , or they'd want to be with me , but they don't want to be in the media . They don't want to be in the media . You don't have to be in the media . Do you know what I mean ? You don't have to put posts up on Instagram . You don't have to do any of it .

I think people are so sucked in about everything has to be on Instagram . You have to tell everyone what you're doing .

they've ever written on me ever . I can't , Couldn't even tell you .

I could not tell you a good story they've ever written about . I couldn't even . I can't even remember when that was . That's how bad it is and I'm like what do I do ? That's so . I haven't murdered anyone . I've done nothing wrong .

I'm a girl that's been in this industry , which is a hard industry to be in cutthroat this and that , you know , had a breakdown come through . It survived everything because I hung myself and I woke up from it because I just didn't want to be here anymore , and I did .

I woke up black eyes a few years ago and then I went in the priory because I just didn't want to be here , because the media and everyone was just on my case .

I just want to be me , whereas before I was suffering inside but I'd be like , yeah , I'm fine , I'm fine . When I wasn't inside I was crying , saying no , I'm not all right , I need help . I need help . I don't want to be in that situation anymore . So I always speak out about how I feel . So now I control everything I do . No one controls me .

I'm no one's product . I'm loving what I'm doing and it's never been better . It's like , yeah , like the reset button , and I've been like this now what ? For a couple of years , a year and a half , and it just goes to show when your mindset is set like good path again , focus , it does work . But only you can do it . No one can tell you to do it .

You have to do it and you have to prove it to me . You have to turn up . You can't have excuses . You're not turned up for work , or do you know what I mean ?

don't care if I go to prison .

And I have said , look , if you could put me in prison just to clear it all , just do it . I'd rather you just do that than every day keep nitpicking , nitpicking , nitpicking . But they won't put me in prison because it's not fraud or anything .

So the high risk people they're the ones who have to go and do a blood test because dvla will want them to do a blood test . I wasn't a high risk and we sent the forms , exactly because he explained to all of us on the course .

We sent the forms off , filled out the forms , we all went through it online what we actually sent it off , as far as I know , I was waiting for my driving licence , didn't come , didn't come , kept calling DVLA and then they said oh , we've had an anonymous phone call , an anonymous email , saying that you're not fit to drive and I'm like well , I am , because

I filled out the forms . I am fit to drive . Like you know you fill out forms if you've got a disability or drug use or whatever . Um , eyes , or you know you fill out a fit to health form . Yeah , so . I filled it all out . I am there's nothing like nothing . Well , we've had a anonymous email . We were like well , who's it from ?

We , we can't tell you . Well , what's it saying is wrong with me , we can't tell you . So we're going to send you some more forms . Can you get your doctors to fill them out ? So we took it to the doctors , took them to the consultant . They filled it out Yep , she's fit to drive . I've got one verse sent them back , takes four to the process .

But on the end of it it says um , if you're 100% know that you're fit to drive , that your doctors were clearly fit to drive , then you can still drive . So I carried on driving because I'm like yeah , I am fit to drive and my doctors have said I am .

And that's when that come out , because I was waiting for my license , because we're like yeah , I can drive because that thing . At the end the question is can I still drive if I haven't got my licence , like actually on form ? And it says you can if you know you're going to 100% pass . So that's why I drove , because I know I am . What happens ?

They ring again . We've had another ominous , another anonymous email saying you're not fit to drive , we're like , but we filled out the forms . They need to fill them out again Four times . This has happened . Then I phoned , said look , I don't know why you're saying I'm not fit to drive . My doctors have said they're not filling out .

Four times they've done it and said kate , we've never known this before . So you know , it's nearly a year now , in april . I don't know what's going on with dvla . You ring them up , you get pass , pass , pass . It's not actually someone you can talk to . And then , um , I phoned , said look , can I do the alcohol thing ?

Because if you're saying I'm high risk now when I wasn't high risk before , if you told me all this in the beginning , I would have done it , done the blood test last summer , passed it the alcohol thing because I don't really drink , even though people think I do . I don't pass that . Waiting for the license , yet another anonymous email .

So it's just , someone keeps ringing them up saying I'm not fit to drive and then you have to wait . So I still haven't got my licence and now I won't dare drive because I don't know what's going on . But when they caught me I thought I could drive . The car was insured , everything like that .

I've even got insurance for the car because they went on the DVLL site . We sent them all the forms that I'd done the course when I could get my driving licence back . And that's where I am . It's discrimination Again . Everything I do , someone tries to pick or do something . So really I should be driving and you haven't stuck a lawyer on it .

Even the lawyers can't get hold of them , unless the only thing we could because there's no contact . You can do DVLAator . You just go online . You get like if you need this help , need this help , you go through . It's a switcher .

There's not actually an email or someone you can actually deal with on there and the lawyers are like they've never heard of this situation with anyone before either . I've spoke to three different lawyers . They all said the same Kate , I don't need this , never happened before . It's unheard because they've looked at the forms .

It's like , yeah , you can drive , but they're not telling me who this anonymous person is and why they're saying I'm not fit to drive when my doctors have cleared it four times the forms .

I've done their blood test last summer with DVLA because you have to go to a DVLA doctor and they take your blood to check your alcohol levels in case they think I'm high and I passed all that . So I should be having my licence . I don't know what's gone on it now .

There's no one to get hold of , I guess , and that really affects me because , like , if I just want to jump in the car and go to my friends' houses with my kids to have a cup of tea or something , I can't do it and I'm stuck in the middle of nowhere , no shop , I can't walk to a shop . So that does affect a lot of things at the minute for me .

When I've done my time , I've done my two years not driving , done my community service , done it all , and a year on I still haven't got my licence . For what reason ? There isn't a reason I'm fit to drive past the alcohol blood test and I still haven't got my licence . I don't know what's going on .

I've learned not to put stuff on instagram , not to retaliate things . I've learned that because it then creates more media . Stuff feels the fire , yeah , and I've learned not to do it . But when the bottom blow , when they said they've taken my horse and put it all over , I'm like are you actually for real ?

So that's why I've done a video of my horse , because I don't want to have to keep justifying , justifying , but they will write anything , anything and people believe it . And I'm like no , I'm working really hard , I'm earning good and it's like I've had a reset button . I couldn't be in a better position than I'm in now . I love it .

I'm earning good , like I did before , but the only thing I'm not doing what I did before . It's like the OK magazines when they used to pay so much money for shoots . I'm not doing what I did before . It's like the OK magazines when they used to pay so much money for shoots .

But obviously I went through a breakdown so then I didn't pay tax and that's sort of where the bankruptcy things come from . And I will pay it . But it just has to be when I've got it , because I do have a lot . I play the mum and dad role . I have bills to pay , I've got outgoings , this that I've got to live .

And yeah , I'm like no , I know what I'm doing . I feel good because I'm in control . Not other people control it , whereas before other people were controlling it . And I think , when I look back because when you earn so much money , do people take it ? Do you know ? Do you check ? You don't . When you earn so much , you don't really check .

You don't check because you're like I've got loads of money there , whereas now I'm in control , I know what I've got , I know where it goes , I know what I do , I know what I spend on and that's it .

. But I think relationships are big things . I've regretted because I started this industry young . I suppose I was needy , gullible , but since therapy I've learned , learned no , for a man to be with me , they're lucky . Not me think , oh , I'm lucky to be with that man . No , they're lucky to be I've got five beautiful kids .

Um , I work , I'm independent , got my own house . Any man that comes to me no , they're lucky . Whereas some people might say , what , how can they be lucky're 45 , got five kids . I'm like , so what ? There's still five human beings . And it's still what I'm trying to say . I'm a family person . Yeah , I know I'm nuts and I love being nuts .

You know I've got Not that I care about a label Last year diagnosed with severe ADHD . But in a way I'm glad because that's the creative side of me . You can't change who I am , you can't change my personality .

I'm professional when I need to be , and if I'm out with my friends to party and then I'm like , yeah , I'm here , I'm like the entertainer , because that's just me . I'm just , I'm just me . You just can't change that , yeah . And so relationships are regretful because now I know my worth . I know what I want .

I know what I want from a relationship , not just jump in one and go , oh yeah , look , they're good looking , they might have a good body , or I'll be with them . I'm over all that like what do you want ?

to me it's more connect , having a laugh , the personality of some , having a laugh , what they can bring , what I can bring , and that's nothing to do with money or nothing like that . It's like you want a best friend in a man .

You want to know that you can go on holiday or do anything , but you can have a laugh together , not think , oh no , is he going to moan about what I'm wearing ? Or if there's a person across the table , am I too scared to say , oh hi , how are you two ? What are you doing , do you know ?

I think I've been in a lot of controlling relationships , controlling relationships , jealousy and all of that . Practically all of them have been like that and it's not healthy . It's toxic , not healthy relationships . I don't want that . I want someone to accept what I do for a living , accept what comes with it , because if you can't , you can't change me .

You can't change what comes with me and you can't change that . I get media attention . You can't change that . If I go out , people want pictures , this and that . That's just me . I can't help that . I can't change that and I don't want something they can change me . The important thing in a relationship you adapt to be .

Everyone has to adapt to a bit to be in a relationship to make it work . I mean , if you're in a relationship , you do things together , um , but also it's healthy if they want to go out with their friends . Do you know what I mean ? Like you've got to be healthy and just trust . Loyalty is the best thing , I think .

If someone crosses your trust or cheat on you or message someone else or has a flirty message , then you know their head's not in it with you . If you can sit there with your other half and have banter with other people while they're there , then that's more fun .

be asked with the checkup . No , that's that's wrong . You shouldn't have to check up . You should just let them get on with their day .

If they're like , well , I'm going to work now or whatever , like okay , I'll speak to you later and you've got something to talk about at the end of the day , not like what you're up to now , what you're doing where you're going , what's on your back , that's unhealthy .

Just let them get on with it and then you've got something to talk about at the end of the day . Like I've learned , you can't suffocate someone . No one owns anybody . You've got to be your own person and get on with it . How do you ?

give a fuck , and you know this doesn't affect the kids . But there's got , there's got to be times .

If anything , they should look up to me and think God , my mum's a grafter , she's a worker , she works hard .

Like the older kids junior and princess they've been brought up with it all and so they've got their own careers from it and I think because they've seen it all , they know how the media works , what they're like , they know if they're going to get interviewed , they're going to try and get asked tricky questions or whatever . They're smart .

They because they've grown up with they don't know any different , like I don't know any different do you help the kids with their careers ? I don't know I'm not one of these pushy mums .

with take my kids off me in that way as well . One of my kids is sucked into it and the other one is very like me . No , I do what I want to do . No one's telling me what to do .

I'm not naming them , but one of them knows I'm their mum , the other one , I think they all disrespect me as a mum , as if I'm nothing , and the people around them look at me like I'm nothing . You don't have to tell your mum nothing . Don't report nothing to your mum . We don't even want your mum there . One of my kids was having a thing on .

I wasn't allowed to go because the management and that were there , and then my sister and her husband went and they weren't allowed backstage with it all because they're like no , you're not here , but we'll give you some passes to get free drinks . That's how my family's treated from the management . It's disgusting . But I can't tell them , they learn themselves .

I can only give my advice and they know that I know how to do . The press . Press calls this that . That's what I know . It's like if you go to a red carpet , why do people go to a red carpet If there's a film premiere , why do people go to a red carpet To be seen ? Because they want to be seen .

So if you're going to be seen , you want a headline or whatever . This is how I used to . Now I don't care what I wear . It's like if they want to put me in the paper , they do . If they don't , they don't . It's not like I need it and that's not being arrogant because I've been in it long enough 30 years this year .

Wear an amazing dress or wear an amazing outfit or suit or something , because you're there to be seen . You need the press . Don't like . I know how to work it and I can only say look , if you're going to go somewhere , make sure you stand out like , be different .

Don't be the run-of-the-mill like everyone else , because I know that work , because that's what I used to do or that's what I love doing anyway what do you think it is ?

come , have their height and then down gone but I'm still here . It's like it's not that I try and recreate myself . I'm not recreating myself , I just do what I do . I'm not manufactured . I've got no one saying be like this , say this , say that I'm just myself .

And I think , because I've got no one saying be like this , say this , say that I just , I'm just myself . And I think , because I've been in the industry so long it I suppose my , my life's like a soap story , like a soap series , but in print or in life . But people have to remember . But it really is my life .

It's not like EastEnders or Coronation Street , a script , my life like a soap , but it really is happening to me and people follow it . So yeah , I think people can relate that I'm normal and I do go through true life events and then I get through them . I'm like a survivor .

I've still got that hunger , that drive for it . I'm not bored , I'm not lazy , I want it . I'm still hungry and I know this is I've had a good time . I've had a good time . I've been through the shit , the turning point , and I'm hungry and I will do it again . And I love it .

When people say , no , you won't , no , you won't , I'm like , yeah , I will , because that's all I've heard all my life and I am , I'm back on it does it ever scare you that you may wake up tomorrow and everybody has lost interest in you ? if they have , they have , then I'd take , take that path .

But I'm always like if People say , if you don't like it , walk away .

But how can I walk away ? Because then you'll get paps and that , wanting to see what else I'm doing , I couldn't exactly go into a normal job , could I ? Because , like it's weird , I don't know , if people walk away , they walk away , I'm fine . I'm fine . I can carry on life without any of it . I'm comfy to do that .

There's so much going on in my life , one thing at a time , Kate . But you're never too old to be a paramedic . You're never too old to help people . So , yeah , what ? I just take each day as if it's your last , because you never know when your day's up . So just enjoy and do what you can in each day .

And my priorities are my kids , my career , obviously , family and friends all together . And I still love my horses . I love my horses . You're still riding . Love it . Yeah , absolutely love it . Obviously , I broke my feet two years ago , which was life-changing , so I can't do all the stuff that I used to do .

I can never run again . I'd love to do the marathon again and the doctors are like no , because I've got 14 screws in my feet each foot .

But we were the front bit of it and they had like a little bush and I pretended to be a horse to jump it and I didn't know it was 20 foot drop the other side into an underground car park and landed on my feet and I had sliders on so my feet literally were like eggshells yeah , wheelchair for 10 months .

They weren't sure if I could walk again , so I had to learn to walk again . So I've been through it all and I'm like what else could possibly happen ? I think I've had ticked every box of everything that could happen true life events and I've come the other side . I'm like , do you know what ? I've been there , done it Now .

Just do what I want to do , not be dictated by anyone .

love it . And the thing is , why ? Why ? Because I just like I don't know . This is the thing . I've probably got this . Everyone says I've got body dysmorphia . I probably have got it , I don't know . I don't know it's . I don't have surgery to look younger because you're all going to get old and I'm not scared of getting old , I just like to look fresher .

Does that make sense ?

Do I want my lips bigger ? Do I want them smaller ? I don't know . It's just , I think , because I can change it , all I do . But I am 45 . I'm not a young kid , so I'm an adult and that's my choice to make .

But I do think a lot of girls who are young now and I wish , I think , there should be a law that girls start plastic surgery , like if they want their boobs , they should be 21 . I've done one when I'm 18 . I look at Princess she's 17 , a year away from being 18 .

It's far too young to be having anaesthetic and that , If I could turn the clock back now , now I know what I put my mum through , because you're a baby , really , when you're that age .

But I think so many girls young these days have so much filler , all of this to their face . They have all their jaw done . A lot of them look like aliens or a lot of them look the same . You go on Instagram , they all look the same and I'm like you're so young . What are you going to be like when you're my age 45 ?

If you look like that and you're addicted to that now , what are you going to look like at my age ? You know , when I started my career , they didn't airbrush pictures . There was no such thing as that . So I did my career without airbrushing all of this , making me look skinner , this and that just how it was .

But nowadays I think , because you can airbrush this , that there's so many catfishes out there and I feel sorry for some guys if they go on dates with girls because they're probably like fucking hell , that's not the one in the picture and that's just the way things are now . But like if I could give advice to young girls just don't do it all .

You don't Don't do it all and don't do it all at once . Just take your time . You've got your whole life to do it all , but now I'm on a mission when I'm 70 , I'll probably still be fucking doing it . What ?

The thing is you always see before and after pictures , whereas I don't care if people see in between pictures what it looks like after surgery , the bit that you go for where you look horrific . People don't really show that , whereas I do , and it is serious . Every time you're put under it's serious . It's a general anaesthetic .

You know it's not good for your body , but I'm older and I do what I want to do , so I do .

of trying to reduce stress , trying to , I guess , not let these relapses happen ?

I'm in a good place , there's no agendas going on with anyone or I don't have to worry like is my friend going to try and try on with my husband and that , because that's another thing . Women's instincts are , so go with your instinct . My instincts have never , ever let me down . Every time I've had an instinct about something , it's come true . Girls know .

Like for girls , if you think that your friend Frances , your other half or something , you'll be right , you'll be right . Instincts have never let me down . I don't want people around me where I think that Like no , it's just all changed . Like I go out if I want to go , like the other night , I'll hop from .

The paper said I was bankrupt buying all these drinks . I bought a round and my friend bought a round and we went home . This is an example how I've changed . We went and saw Priscilla , a theatre show .

So I went with the guy who's going to write my West End show about my life and I met him in Panto in Liverpool because he wrote that and he writes shows and he does events and stuff . Oh , that's another thing . I'm doing a West End show about my life , so I went with him . He's our half With you in it .

Presumably , I don't know , I'll get some to play when I might do some appearances in it . But um , so we went to the event . You had your celeb bit where all the celebs wanted to go having drinks , taking advantage of the free drinks , and I was like , no , I just really want a good seat and I actually want to watch the show .

I don't't give a fuck who's there . I don't give a shit who's there . I don't need to mingle with anyone and have that small talk , bollocks talk . I can't bear it . I've done it for years . I don't need to do it . So we literally got a drink , sat down watching the show and in the interval got another drink .

Soon , as the show lady of the show she was so good got a straight in her car and we went home where it was off with that and after party , all that , I wasn't there . I was there to watch the show , but yet the papers that , oh yeah , she spent loads of money getting drink and no , we weren't at all .

It wasn't even like that and it's like they put in the papers . The other day I had this entrepreneur speech where they had speakers there and , um , I took bunny riding in the day . We got lunch and then I knew my time slot to go on stage when they wanted to interview me about business .

Bunny wanted to come , she came , so I had all different outfits because I didn't know what I wanted to wear . And bunny being bunny , she always wears my shoes and she loves putting makeup on , so it's like fine , but they get a picture of bunny in my high heels and makeup , saying I took her to an over 18s event where there was burlesque dancers .

We didn't see any of that . I got there , done my job and went home , but the papers put a picture up oh , she took her kids watching these burlesque shows , but we didn't . But this is what I mean about the media they tarnish everything I do not like . Oh , isn't it good that Kate's with her kids ? You know she doesn't work .

Her kid wanted to come with her , so she did . Jet didn't want to , so he didn't come . But it's like life to me is like a pie chart , so you've got to .

If you do a pie chart , for example , anyone can do it Do a pie chart of how much time you work , how much time you spend with your family , how much self-care you have , how much holidays you have , and actually look at that and think , if you want to change that and that's what I did , so I changed it .

So I want to spend time with my family more than anything and I want to work , and then holidays when we can Self-love , so you've just got to make it equal so it fits in with your life , where I never used to do that before . I'd just be like go , go , go , go , go .

say like you want to bring out tracksuits or something , just start with like two hoodies different color , two hoodies and then , when you get your money back in , instead of spending that , pull it back into stock , buy more stock and then you grow like that , because I think some people they just think , right , I'm going to get everything in all these colors , all

these hoodies , spend all this money and then they're left with stock they can't sell . I always say start small and start with a business and then grow it , grow it , put money back in , grow it , grow it , money back in . Things like that you can work from home now .

Like I think , because everything's so full now you've got socials , you've got you know everything's online now , so you don't have all these overheads . Like if you want stuff in a shop you have to pay overhead , shop stuff , distribution , this that you could do everything from home . A lot of it you could do from home now .

And I think because of COVID you started doing Zoom calls this , and that Most people do Zooms and meetings on Zooms and all the things have just changed now . So I'm at home more than what people think now . You know I could do my TikTok shop from home , like there's just loads you could do at home and it's so much better .

and my sister and this company approached us saying why don't you do a podcast ? And we do , we just talk about anything . It's number 30 in the whole podcast charts .

We do it , yeah . Then there's a subscription for the bonus episodes and we just do it weekly June . And then I said , can we do a theatre night ? They're like , oh no , you've only just started in June . Like that's unheard of , like you've got at least go for a year , two years , you mean ? in at a theatre .

I said , well , I want to do it , let's try it . And we did , and we sold out the theatre in one night . So from that now we've got a theatre tour . So we've got all dates .

It starts in May until June , going up and down the country doing our podcast show and when you're doing the podcast , we're on stage and in the theatre and you're recording it as a live podcast .

We do it every week . Consistency and that's how you get the viewers , the listeners , because then we might be like , oh my God , this happening this week . If you want to know what happened , listen to next week . So it's consistent and then people get to know you . We get readers' questions in things like that . It's actually really fun .

May Cooper who wants to do a Netflix my life story for Netflix . So hopefully my Netflix story life will be out on Netflix . I'll have my West End show out . I'll be doing the podcast . Have my perfumes , underwear , swimwear , clothing back on track , all the TV shows .

I'm supposed to go to Texas at the end of the year to interview men on death row for a show that I'm doing Serial Killers . All of that because I love the crime . I've got my book coming out this year . Every door's open and I'm happy and I choose what I want to do and I'm loving it .

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