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¶ Kevin's Hotwifing Story Overview
Kevin's a guy that is very into his wife hot wifing. The reason for him getting into it was super interesting and started with him like sort of never feeling like his penis was big enough. He explains how small, big, whatever it it really is, and how that led to him
feeling like hi you know, he wanted his wife to be with someone who had a bigger dick so she could be more pleasured. He talks about like all the toys that they use and all the stuff that they did and how he realized she is more turned on when she's has is more filled up, quote unquote, and then
you know, he talks about how at a certain point in their marriage they went through like a kind of a tough time'cause she wasn't like initiating sex and he put together like a list of what he really wanted and that whole situation of how he did it and what was on the list and how he sent it to her.
It's super interesting because I think it was a very smart thing that he did. And another smart thing that he did is he didn't just let that list go. He gave it to her, said do th some of these things. He explains the details about it. And she didn't really follow the instructions. You're gonna have to listen to hear the instructions. And so and but he kept on her, you know. And then she met a guy
organically. Uh and the whole hot wifing thing was on the fucking table, okay? Like for real. Like she was down. She was ready. This is a girl with a guy. They've been married since the dawn of time. Okay. She's never been with anyone else. He's never been with anyone else. Finally gonna live out their hot waving fantasy and this guy has fucking flaked on them like many times.
Uh, that whole story is actually really interesting about how she met the guy, how she got into him and how and why he flaked is super interesting too. And then at the end we give him advice. I give him advice on how to you know, find another guy'cause uh her gu her wife is a little stuck on this guy and and she's not looking for another guy, but he needs to find another guy'cause they were so close.
So close. This guy though is flaking and d is not interested anymore. So it's a super fun, interesting newbie uh episode. I think people could learn from episodes like this where the guys are really in the beginning stages of things'cause so many guys are.
¶ Marriage History, Kink Genesis
Uh so uh anyway I'm gonna get right to and be right back on with Kevin. Kevin, welcome to the Strictly Anonymous Podcast. How are you today? Good. Listen, Kevin, you're one of those fucking guys. I can't even believe it's like it's multiplying. It's like a st cancer spreading across the country. I don't know. I think so many guys are into the whole hot wifing thing. And then I did a poll on my up on my Patreon recently just so you know.
Are more guys into like seeing their wife with another guy or girl and a girl wanna on my Patreon, but I'm like, what the fuck is with all these guys emailing me about getting their girl to be with another guy? It's like uh to me I just feel like it's so ramp up but maybe just on my show. You are someone that listens to my show. You also are a guy that is close to getting your girl to hot wife because you have a guy that just keeps flaking out on you, right? That's the end of the story, right?
So obviously she's down, but we're gonna talk about the whole story of how you got there and where you're at now and maybe how to get a bowl that doesn't fucking flake. I don't know what, you know, if I have to give you advice at the end of things but I know that some sort of argument got tur turned things around and got you into just revealing everything or something. I don't know. Tell me the whole story. Let's go all the way back. How long you you and your wife been married?
Oh, we've been married for twenty years.
Okay, twenty years. And what like
And together for twenty years.
Okay, so together forever. Have you guys been with other people? Or do you lose your virginities to each other?
Exactamente.
Oh wow, that's hardcore, right? Yeah. Yeah, okay. So you lost your virginity to each other, then got married, never fucked anybody else. You, not you, not her, and you don't have a desire, I'm assuming, like your kink is this, like seeing your girl with another guy.
¶ Penis Insecurity, Wife's Pleasure
Yeah, correct. Well I think like we can go back if you want afterwards, but I think this all comes out because like I'm gonna be completely like I'm four inches on a good day. So like
Small penis human do you feel like that's too small? All right, let me ask you this. Four inches and thin? Or four inches in thick. Or four inches in normal.
An average average.
Okay, four inches an average. Okay. Your wife is fine with that? Maybe she has a small vagina. Has she always been okay with that?
Well well she's had two C sections, so it's al it's always been tight, so
There you go. Yeah, so it's good for her. I remember I had a friend once who She met a guy and he was really hot and uh word on the street was like he wasn't really that well endowed and she's like, I don't care, I have a small vagina, I love it. So I you know, there's uh everyone thinks everyone's a size queen, but that's not necessarily true. That's my whole point, right? Your wife is obviously happy uh in and fine, but you have an issue with the size of your penis, I'm assuming.
Well yeah, I I've always I like like a lot of guys that pwn into your your show, like my wife is my porn star, right? Like when I watch porn, like I'd imagine her getting fucked by by those guys, right? Uh-huh. And for me it's more
I
Like my goal is all every time we're having sex, my goal is to always give my wife the best orgasm she's ever had. And like pltorily, like she'll have multiple orgasms and I can get her off that way. But I just feel I like We have toys and stuff like that. And whenever like I break up the big toys, like she comes harder than she's ever come with me fucking her. So like I like my dream is like they get a guy with a nice cock to like just
fucker and ha give her the best orgasm ever. Like that to me that's like the top of the that's the mountaintop for me.
¶ Mutual Pleasure, Relationship Security
Yeah, I used to wonder because a lot of guys that have this kink do like the guy to be quote unquote bigger than them, whether they're four inches or seven inches. You know what I mean? They the bigger the better. And I always wonder, does that mean that guy's like secretly into cock and wants to see a big cock'cause he likes it? And it's like, no, it's because
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If a girl is being more full filled up, like on you know, there's just more things that are being hit and more nerve endings that are getting activated that she winds up, you know eyes rolling in the back of her head more, and that's what it's all about for the guys, correct? Like that's what it's about. It's not about the cock to you seeing a bigger cock. It's about her being more turned on.
Exactly. It's like I like just seeing her like like I can tell like when I'm when I'm fucking her like without like an extender or without a dildo or something, I can tell I'm not like hitting spots like wants to be hit. And I like I just I would like my it's my dream to have a guy just like hit those spots and just like make her come better than I ever have. Like I said, she's my porn star and I want to see her like get off.
Yeah, it's funny. In a recent ad I did for Bedjucated, someone made some weird comment'cause I tip I said in the thing like, Isn't your wife's pleasure like the point of everything? But what I meant was that I typically and a lot of people think guys are so fucking selfish, but I'm here to say like no.
So they're not selfish. Typically what I think guys are are pleasers. They want their it is about their girl getting pleasured. Most guys care. They want the girl to get off. You know what I mean? Every now and then you'll find a guy that doesn't fucking give a shit. And maybe after, you know, thirty years of marriage it's the truth. But
Most guys are pleasers and the big the biggest turn on to them is turning their girl on, right? Like that's what you get off on. So it is important, right? That's what I meant by it. Not that it's all who cares whether she No, I'm not saying you are, I'm saying that fucking asshole that made the comment.
No, but and also for me, like w early on, like in my like when I was like a teenager, like I knew I had a small dick. So like I al like right like so even without like I I know you have those ads for um basically like the Netflix of sex. But like even for me, like I was always yeah, vegetate like I was always like a guy, even my teenage teenage years, like I wanted I like learn how I use the clip. Like I am like a master like of the clip. That's
That's smart.
Right. Yeah. So so yeah, s we can get into it afterwards. But even with this guy, I don't really feel I I don't feel threatened that my wife would ever leave me like we have a life together, like, you know, we like that's not like a fear for me. And also because if these are like just one offs and
I know that that guy will then maybe like fuck her good and give her something badgingly that I probably can never give her. But like I know that my click game, like he won't be able like to do better than me, like in that
time they meet because I know all my wife's spots. I know what gets her off. Like this guy's coming in to dick her down, but like all the other stuff, I know that guy's not gonna because I have twenty eight years of experience with my wife and I know her spots. And no guy coming in is gonna do that. So I don't feel threatened at all and another guy.
Plus you obviously have all the other pieces in of the pie that i are involved in a relationship a are and they're all solid, correct? Like that's important. Uh women don't go No woman is gonna leave their man because another man is better in bed. If she's fucking another guy and he's better in bed, it has to be that he's also nicer to her.
her her husband has been ignoring her, she fucking hates him, she's been over him for three years and then in comes along this guy who's great in bed and she leaves her husband. But she didn't leave her husband'cause the guy was great in bed. Okay. She left her husband for a thousand other reasons.
And that just was the kicker. But no woman, if you and your wife are super close, like you are, right? And you have everything else going on, she's not gonna leave you if some guy b bangs her out better. It's just not that's not how women are. I don't even think men are that way.
Exactly.
Yeah. I mean so you're secure and I think that's important to say'cause some people would think like, Oh my God What if sh the guy's better, she's gonna leave you? I mean, really think that through. That's like ridiculous. You guys have a life together, I'm assuming you have kids, you bought a house together. I mean, like who's gonna leave someone just for better dick? Most people know. And if they do, it's not for better dick. Like I said, it was because there was more problems at home.
in the other pieces of the pie that are much more important to a relationship staying together, not dick size.
That's right.
¶ Sex Life Decline and The List
Yeah, I mean, you know, so and you guys have been married since the dawn of time, you know, the you guys are the rare breed of people, but they exist, right? People that get married from day one, first person and last their whole life, right? No one's going anywhere. So I think there's a security in that kind of a relationship that some people don't have.
Oh yeah, absolutely. I agree with them. Yeah, we're we're we're saw like getting here like took took a a while. Like we had our ups and downs, but like
Well isn't that normal?
Ja.
Isn't it ups and downs in any relationship normal? I think so. Any relationship that lasts twenty years, double digit years, you know, people go through tough times, right? And you did go through a tough time, right? And this is how this whole hot wifing thing come back, right? I'm trying to get us I'll get us back onto course'cause I'm taking you off.
Of course. But I wanna get to this whole thing. I mean, did you when did you realize like w should we start with like when you realize you were into this kink? Was did was it always because you had a small penis? Like you always sort of thought about that?
Yeah, so that's like So like I I feel like when I like the first time I saw my saw her, like I I fell in love like right away. Yeah. I was head o head of our heels, right? Yeah. So I always felt like I really married up, but I was never really you know, threatened by other guys, even when other guys would like look at my wife or whistle like I would feel proud. I'm like, yeah, she's with like Yeah. Like she she's my wife. And I guess for me, like the first time I realized that
You know, I was really like into this. I don't know if you remember the movie Summer of Sam with uh John Liguizamu. But there's a scene there's a scene in that movie where he goes with Mira Cervino to like a sex club. And his wife is getting they get like high and his wife is like fucking like another guy. And I saw that and like I said to myself, I would love to see my wife. I would love to see that happen.
Like that clicked for you.
Yeah that that's when like it it clicked in for me. And again, it's something that It's something that I I thought about for like forever. And then of course COVID comes along and you know, you start exploring, you have time on your hand. And then I start like
How was your sex life during that time?
You know, it's it's been it was pretty vanilla. Like I'd buy toys, like I'd I'd you know, we'd we'd I'd think I'd tie her up, you know, do stuff like that. But it was pretty pretty vanilla. Like I was always the one like initiating. Like my my wife wasn't someone who's going to, you know, initiate these things. It was it was more me. Like
you know, she was never she would never say like no to things. Like there's certain things that like no goes like she doesn't like to get, you know, come on her face, you know, like We can get we can get to anal play afterwards, but like anal's in like an a no no for her. Yeah. You know, like every guy every guy wants to do anal, but like it was it was prevenal. Like we use toys and stuff like that, some light like tying up, but like nothing crazy.
Okay, and so uh h the covet comes and you got nothing but time on your hands and you guys over
And and yeah, and and and and and and the and the kids are home so so like the sex goes like off a cliff.
Right.
It's not happening and like so and my thing and my wife takes like some anxiety drugs. So like Yeah, that so th so that that that kills like the libido and stuff, right? So there's a time there from the time after we had our second child until like during COVID where like my wife like never initiated. Like out of like, you know, fifty times having sex, she initiated maybe once. It was really, really one one sided. And as you've other other callers have said to you
in the past, you know, when you sort of like questioning yourself, Am I doing something wrong? Like am I not enough for her? It's like is is that what it is? Like and after of course I have my anxiety over, you know, i over like the size of my penis, right? And like
And that so I'm I'm and no, I'm I'm and in order to make up for that, like I'm buying new toys, I'm buying all these other things to try to like to get her engaged in sex. And she's not like I'm I'm buying these toys and then she's like I d like she's never asking to use the toys or anything like that. So I start to think to myself, like, what the hell am I doing wrong here?
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Like am am I not enough for her? Is like is is that what it is? Like and after of course I have my anxiety over, you know, i i over like the size of my penis, right? And like And that so I'm I'm and no, I'm I'm and in order to make up for that, like I'm buying new toys, I'm buying all these other things to try like to get her engaged in sex. And she's not like I'm I'm buying these toys and then she's like
I d like she's never asking to use the toys or anything like that. So I start to think to myself, like, what the hell am I doing wrong here?
Uh-huh.
Yeah, sorry. Yeah, so so they what am I what am I doing wrong here? So
¶ Wife's List Reaction, Kevin's Persistence
Did you ask her?
Yeah. So yeah, I I asked her where we like like we have fights and stuff like that, but never it gets like the one time where I I like I just blew up on my wife. I'm like, you know
We, you know, I'm doing all this stuff, you know, initiating all the time. You're not like giving anything back what's going on here, right? And we have like a we have like a big blow up about it, like I said. So whatever, we have that blow up and after what I did was I took like I wrote down like a list of like all the kinks and all the fantasies that, you know
that are in my head. And some of them were like were like really like tame. Like, you know, take a nude, whatever, initiate sex more often and all the way up to, you know, watching you get like fucked by another guy and like doing deep the us doing DP. Like so it was a whole like
Across the board, everything.
the board. Yeah.
I love that.
Yeah, so I I said you know.
It must have been in the mindset of fuck it, I don't give a shit, I'm putting it all out there.
Yeah, well like look well Kathy after twenty five plus years like there's a lever there's a level of comfort there where like you can you can say that, right? Like in
Really, you waited a long time. The if the comfort was there you would have let it out a long time ago. You were uh COVID made us all mental, okay? You were pushed over the ledge and it got you the balls to fucking sh put it out there.'Cause I don't think that there's a comfort level.
uh uh sort of telling someone that you know for a long time something that you never told them from the beginning. I actually think that's ac actually harder and that's what sometimes people go out and cheat and do all their naughty things with a stranger than tell their person that they know for twenty years.
So I'm sorry, normally that comfort I don't think that's comfortable. I think you were just pushed to your limit and COVID made us all mental and you're like, I got nothing to lose. I'm just gonna fucking tell her. What's she gonna do? Go out and get COVID and leave me? So go on.
Yeah, so so so we have this blow big blow up whatever, like and after she she she uh she accuses me of like like having an affair with another woman and that that really set me off because I'm like I'm here all the time. I don't anywhere.
Like.
Tell me tell me where I found the time to have like the this affair.
You make a list and then what happens
So after like I say, look, going forward, like whenever it's like an anniversary or Christmas or anything else, I told her I don't want anything. Like I don't want a gift. I want you just to pick one of these things from here and just do them. And that is my gift. You don't have to do anything else. Just here either. And I don't care.
Yeah, guys are kinda so easy, right?
Yeah. So she s she so she sends a couple of news, whatever, but then it's sort of like it falls off.
Did she ever question you about that shit on the list?
Well she said like there's some things that like are just not gonna happen, right? Yeah. I'm like, that's fine. I'm like it's just a list. Like I'm like I like I when I sold it, like when I wrote that list, like I knew there were things that there that were like never going to happen. So I asked her like so going forward, like I said, holidays, whatever, just go from the list. But then, you know
It's not really happening. Like th things are coming. They were we're going we're we go away for for a weekend and like I'm anticipating, okay, she's gonna do one of these things from the l this list. And she doesn't do it. And I at first I'm like, you know, because I know I'm just trying to get her there. Like she's really vanilla. She's not
you know, like sh she was not really exposed like to sex, like growing up, like even when we first started dating, she had never like really masturbated before. And she was like nineteen years old. So so like I'm like I'm not yelling at her like, you know, like I d I like we went away well like one one weekend. I'm like Are you planning on doing anything from that list? And she was like, No. I'm like, well, I said to her, like, this list is like really important to me. Like it shows that
You know, like I'm putting all this effort in and I need to see some effort coming back. I said they're like, you don't have to it doesn't have to be 50-50 with the initiation or anything like that, but like it's gotta be like 70-30 or something like that. So I was like really nice about it.
Well let me just tell you another key thing that you're doing right and I'm just pointing these things out because these are all important for other guys to know because I can't tell you how many times a guy brings something to the table and his girl like forgets about it or doesn't do it and doesn't listen and then he just never brings it up again.
Like you have to do what you did, which is like, okay, you did your job right, but then she slacked off and she wasn't doing hers and you brought it up again. Like you're not letting it go. And that's kinda unfortunately what you have to do. And a lot of times a guy thinks, Oh, I'm gonna tell her once and if she doesn't fucking do it, oh forget it. You know what I mean? No, sometimes it takes
a while to get somebody to change their habits. Yeah, she was a in a habit of not doing any of those things. So you have to like kind of push her to do it. And you were, you weren't letting up. And I think that that's smart. I mean you weren't being annoying about it, you know what I mean? You were being very nice about it, but you didn't just let it go and be like, Oh, forget it, you know what I mean?
Yeah. So after Christmas comes this year and you know, I'm expecting something from the list and again, nothing from the list.
So Even for fucking Christmas? I mean that's the time for the presents.
So so I got like I got really annoyed. Instead of like talking about it like what I did is like I took out like all the toys I had bought, all the laundry I had bought, all the stuff, and I put it like on our bed. Like the the thousands of dollars. I'm like I said like this is like all the stuff that I've done for our sex life. All I'm asking is like for a nude or for something and like you can't even do this shit for me. What are we doing here?
¶ Organic Flirting and Roleplay
So like I I I blow I blow we had like we had good makeup sex after that, but that's when she starts talking with this guy on Facebook. And that's when things really like it's been like the best six weeks.
She starts talking to the guy on Facebook because she takes the one thing on that list, which is go find another guy and fuck him for me and that's what she chooses. You I I don't think I'm telling the story properly.
Not you're right, you're right. I'm not telling you property. So uh she runs a business. So and they so through like the soliciting there, I guess there was this like some guy who like found her and started flirting with her.
online. And this guy was like right up her alley as far as like what she's looking for in a guy, you know, like really fit, uh, younger, you know, like five eight, five nine, like I'm I'm short. I'm in good shape, but I'm short. So she starts talking to them. This guy starts flirting with her.
So this is just out of the blue and has nothing to do with your list.
And that has nothing to do with my list. Just this guy initiates with her. And so she and I guess I guess coming off that blow up that we had, she realizes, oh, this is something that, you know, that I want. So I'm gonna engage in this and see how it goes. Like this is this is I guess in in her mind, you know, this is relatively like a safe thing to do. Like Well I I
What did what do you have like on the other list that was like seemed more hardcore?
Okay, okay. So okay, so let me back.
Yeah, please back up. I don't I'm not following you.
So like So throughout like I s I never gave up like the the uh the mountaintop for me, which is her having sex with another guy. So even like when we were having sex, like I'd whisper in her ears like the fantasies that I had and I'd tell her stories and you know, I'd use uh AI to like write stories.
and share them with her regarding like where we're like we go to a sex club and she fucks another guy or we fuck in front of other people and you know, just all these things to show like this is something that I really want to show her like. Like this isn't just some sort of like passing fancy for me. This is like the ultimate like I d because like like most women that call into your show, she thought this was some sort of ploy for me to fuck another woman. That's the
Well you gotta tell those things. I mean you'd acted as if she never even questioned that that comment on the thing. Yeah.
Yeah. So uh and after I think she realized that, oh, really he he doesn't want another woman, he just really wants me. to have sex with other guys. So in her mind, I guess after all this lead up and you know writing these stories and talking to her and you know, like we'd be having sex and
And I Oh my God, you just said uh you jumped to the guy and all of this was going on after the note. So after the note, she starts asking that and you guys start role playing this this the extra guy, the side guy scenario.
Well we think I had been is that I had been role playing the side guy scenario for a while even before we had that blow up over the holiday. So I'd I've been like but every time that we were doing that kind of role play where I would t was talking to her about her, like she would get like really turned on and really wet and we'd have really great sex. So like I guess subconsciously, I know this is something.
that turns it on. I know that like we've talked about it like a little bit, like even before the blow up about How like she's turned on by other guys and sometimes that she does think about it, whatever, right?
You bring all this up later.
Yeah, so sorry. But I guess Kathy, that blew up really uh at Christmas was because it was Christmas and I didn't get something from that list. Like I like everything that went
Else was on the list that you wanted. She's not gonna find you wanted her to find another guy for what was on that list that she wasn't doing because I don't understand the
Like like like uh like cum on her face, swallowing my cum, uh having anal sex. uh watching other people okay uh w watching other people uh have s uh that uh w other people watching us have sex. Go to a sex club and just watch people have sex. Like and like all the all the stuff that like most guys think about. Like it was all you know from the very like send me a nude pic picture. Send me a picture.
That's the one thing she did. Okay.
So or like, you know, uh and w other things on the list were like asked to use one of the toys, not me have initiating using one of the toys. You know, like
And she was doing none of it.
None of it. Okay. Except yeah. Yeah. Except for the except for the nude pick like maybe once every leg.
Right. And on the side you had been role playing the hot wife and things. So when she got that list, you wanting to see her with another guy was not so completely crazy.
No, not exactly.
Okay.
¶ Facebook Guy: Sexting and Rules
So how does the Facebook guy come into play? She says, Oh, some guy just hit me up on Facebook
Yeah, so so this so this guy like under the guise of like wanting to like you know wanting to like partake in her business like like to use her user services, he starts like going because she has her face on there on on her uh on Facebook. So my wife's very attractive.
Uh
So he starts flirting with her like beyond what the services that she provides, right? And so she starts like flirting with this guy and she tells me that she's flirting on I'm like, sure, go for it. Flirt as much as you want. Yeah. And like, you know, this really turns me on. So she starts flirting with with this guy. They start sort of
ste thing, uh sexing with each other. And so so at first it's like just it's just that. It's just sexing, right? And she's getting so turned on. Like we are our sex starts getting like way better. She's like horny all the time. So this this is going on for a couple of weeks. And then he sends her a dick pic.
But she's keeping you in the loop of all of that.
Yes.
Explain all this stuff'cause the very specific things of how this kind of moves, okay. We're almost at the end of the story'cause this guy never fucking shows up. But like, you know, is she coming to you and w talking to you every step of the way? Are you reading these things and getting horny? Like what's happening?
So so so she so she's telling me he's saying that he like wants to fuck me. He's saying that, you know, my ass looks great. He's like, so she's yeah, she's keeping me like in touch like through all the time and all the sex things. She's not keep it's not every single text, but she's keeping me like giving me like the cold notes version of what of what's going on.
Okay.
And, uh, yeah, so he sends her, like, a big thing.
Did she say she intends to like meet this guy?
So okay. So so this is going on whatever for for a couple of weeks and then we're sitting down. It's like a weeknight, the kids are like downstairs playing video games and she's like, So If this were to happen, just I don't know what she's like, if this were to happen, and like right away I'm like my heart starts beating. I'm like, You you're actually considering this? I'm like, really?
Didn't you think she was considering it? Why else would she be doing that? Did she ever d did she say ever once like I'm just gonna fuck with his head and tease him and make him think I'm into? Why else would she be fucking sexting with a guy? That that was her ploy to fuck him?
Well well I th since I like she was like always always like this I like I just never thought that she'd actually even like consider it and start like
So you just thought she was teasing the guy?
I know I know but still, but I thought she was just gonna leave it like that. Like and like if if that's as far as it went, that's as far as it went, right? Like I guess that's as good as it's gonna get and
You're naive.
Yeah, I'm glad that I was. So she says, So like so if so if this were to happen, I'm like, oh my God, like this is my this is my fantasy, this is my dream come true. So I'm like, okay, here's how I envision it it would happen like We'd find like the kids would be away for a weekend. We'd get a hotel room. I'd drop you off. You know, we'd go shopping for like lingerie ahead of time. We start like, you know, planning out the whole thing about how it would happen, right?
And like we get like so fucking turned on. Like we like that that night we just have like we start talking about like it'll be like this and then like what are the rules? Like so one of the so when we started like talking about what would happen, she's like, I'm like
Could I she didn't want me to be there. She wanted to go and cause she didn't feel that she could be as unlike really uninhibited and like explore like her sexuality with me in the room, which I completely understand. And the one thing I also want to mention too, Kath, that should have
Earlier as well. Oh, here we go. It's okay. I can follow anything. Don't worry, Inko.
No, but in the lead up to all this after the fr after I sent that note and stuff, I started sharing your your podcast with her. I'm like the ones that were about like hot wifing. I'd share them with her and also uh I'd share a lot of the uh Podcast from Sexy Soccer Mom. So she was she really she really likes Sexy Soccer Mom.
So th there was that as well, right? So again, like like you said, I w I showed that, you know, I was not letting up on this thing. I was being persistent that it was not about me having sex with another woman, it was about her and her pleasure. So I just wanted to throw that in there.
Okay.
¶ Newness and Sexual Exploration
Yeah, so we start like role playing this this entire thing about how it will go down, you know, again, like I said, like what rules would you have in place and like
Get specific.
So like like basically condom, you had me not there, you know, I would drop her off at at the hotel, I'd I'd come back home, she'd be with the guy, condom, everything was, you know, everything that she was comfortable doing was like on the table. And there was be there we'd have like a meet and greet ahead of time.
So like she would like she'd I cause all up until this time it just all been texting. She had actually met the guy in person. So she'd meet with him to make sure that, you know, that chemistry that they had, you know, texting with each other was actually there in real life as well.
And after and if everything went down with there, then we get a hotel room, I'd drop her off, she'd have sex with them, condom, she could kiss him, do whatever she she wanted. And afterwards I would come and we would have the reclaiming sex. So that's how the scenario played out in our head. that that went out. So he kept on sending like dick pics, kept on like getting her support like my wife
like when she had her when she has her period, like that was always like a no go zone. Like we like don't have sex when she has a period. Like she was getting so horny that we were like fucking when she was had when she had her period. And like I told you about like the anal play. Like before was like no like anal play at all.
Then she was like, okay, I'm open up to a little bit of anal play. So, you know, I started, so I started like fingering with so now like sometimes like I finger her asshole and loop. So like all like things that were completely off the tail before, they said this experience with this eye and this texting had completely opened her up. And also she was really excited too with the whole thing because as you know, when you get into a new relationship.
there's that newness, right? Like finding out about someone, you know, that excitement that you feel, you know, when you meet someone new, that after twenty years of marriage you just don't have anymore, right? That's just something that's lost and you're never you're never getting that back again. So
for my wife, like even when I was talking about like like I totally get why you're so excited about this guy. It's that I told her, it's that feeling that you're having when we first started dating, that we're not gonna have again, right? And I told her as well that
For me, I'm finding I so I said for me I'm getting close turned on because I'm finding a new you. I haven't seen this from you before. So it I'm getting feelings now of meeting someone new and I'm getting super excited about this as well. It's like
'Cause she's and that's what I've heard people talk about even with cheating, sometimes what people get out of cheating is that feeling and that newness and It it is about but it's not just about the other person, it's about them feeling something they haven't felt in a long time. So you experiencing her feeling something, it's like it she is someone new to you too. and she is to herself, right? Like but you're both benefiting from it'cause she's not really cheating on you. Right.
¶ The Flaking Guy's Disappearance
Uh so eventually there's they so they they try to have like a meeting, like I said, we're gonna have that meeting.
I'll just ask you a crazy question. Everyone's gonna get so mad at me. People think I'm so rude. You don't think I'm rude the way I'm talking to you, do you? I'm just like a d I'm I think I'm funny. Actually, I think I'm funny, but some people think I'm rude the way I talk to
Kathy, I love the way you talk to people. The the way you talk to Luna, like all that stuff that all that stuff that went down. And uh and I I I actually I provide a lot of comments on your episode. So you can probably
Oh, uh oh, oh, I need to know which one is you because some of them I have to delete'cause they're so mean. The guys go after me so much, it's so weird. I'm like, I know if I was a guy I wouldn't get this shit.
Okay, okay. I I I I'm the guy that's not going after you.
Oh, okay, good, okay, good. I have a couple. I know my na I know my guys that are always so nice on there. But yeah, so thank God you could delete them'cause people are so mean. I put my I work my ass off for my show. Every time I do an episode I attend to like, you know, help people
create good content and people are just so nasty. But I don't think I talk rude and I'm never coming from a rude place. I just wanna make sure you get you're not you don't feel that way'cause I am kinda laughing at you. People think I'm like rude when I'm doing it, but I don't feel that I am. Do you know what I'm saying?
D you th you you but you no you're you're laughing at the story and you're laughing.
Yeah.
You're laughing at these people that are shitty storytellers like you. That's what you're laughing at.
Sure. Go ahead. Um that wasn't the question. The question is, is there a chance and I don't know why I think this, like, is there a chance that Your wife maybe knew this guy and set all this up like and pretending that this was some g random person that showed up. No, no.
Okay. No, I'm I'm not because the guy wouldn't have flaked on her like this.
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Okay. No, I'm I'm not because the guy wouldn't have flaked on her like this.
Yeah, you're right. Right. Right. Okay. You're right. Right. Good point. Okay. I you know what I think the only reason why I put that together, Mike weirdo minded, because I'm sent to be suspicious, is because she was accusing you of cheating and you never were. So sometimes when people are accusing someone else of cheating
it could be because they're like sort of maybe in that mindset. So I was just like, Oh, then I sort of clicked like maybe this guy'cause w you know, what random guy comes to a business and starts hitting on the woman, you know, it typically it it happens in movies but it doesn't happen in real life so much. You know, people are normally respectable and have boundaries. So I it I was like maybe she set this all up
No, like I said, I can't think that was the case. So... So they set up like a time like to do like a meet and greet, right, to see if the chemistry's still there. Mm-hmm. And of course this guy starts flaking. Every time there's a chance to actually like meet my wife, he starts flaking. So I'm like, okay, this is but they're still texting. So my my wife and I are still getting what we want out of this at this point, right? She's getting turned on, it's getting.
We're still we're still having great sex. He's still sending dick pics. That's what I want to say about this guy's I don't know if I said before, but this guy's dick was beautiful. Like he would have won your dick pic contest.
Oh really? I'm having another one soon. Wow. Love it. Okay.
But uh yeah, so this guy starts fli starts flaking on her. So she's like and she starts and she's even getting a sense this isn't gonna this isn't gonna happen. And and then this guy completely like within the last couple of weeks completely cuts her off on Facebook. He's like, I can't talk to you anymore. Yeah. And my my wife and my wife was really upset. It's like this guy, you know, he initiated this whole thing. He's the one who started sending me like dick pics.
And he's just cutting me off like this. So like to be honest, Kathy, like she's been like kinda down the last couple of weeks. And, you know, our sex life has kind of suffered because of it too. It's like it's like and I I told her, like, this is obviously something that
was good, like he was good for both of us. Even if it was just this the sex thing and s and the and the the pics and stuff. I'm like, it was good for us. Like we had been talking more, we've been communicating more. Our sex has been better. Like this is some if it's not him, having someone
Just even if it's just the sexting stuff, it's good for us. It's good for our relationship because look how happy we've been with this happening. So basically this so yeah, just the kind of this guy's flaked. This guy's like out of the picture now. So I guess what I'm looking for is like
¶ Finding New Bull: Wife's Standards
And my wife has to have that connection with somebody. It can just can't be some like Randall coming in. Like I just wonder like how do I get like another guy?
Well have you brought Okay. So have you said what you said to me to her, like oh my God, like like should we go like have you said should we go pick up another guy? Yes. Okay. And
And again, she's still kind of hesitant about it because she doesn't want like these random strangers. Like but I I told her I'm like, this guy was a random stranger and you were fine with it. So why I I said to her, I'm like,
But it happened organically. There's something with women, like you know what I mean? It didn't it wasn't set up. That's like a weird thing to push. through. This was like the perfect storm for a woman in that it wasn't it was a stranger, but it happened sort of organically and naturally. And I'm a woman so I totally get why this random stranger would be different than a random stranger on an app, you know?
Yeah, yeah. And then and this guy was he was it wasn't like like some of these guys Like I like on some of these Reddit guys and stuff like I I I troll like all the Reddit pages, like the Hot Boy pages and stuff like that. And some of the some some of these guys aren't nearly as good looking as
as this guy was, right? So my wife this it's the thing, my wife's not just gonna fuck some guy with a baby. My wife wants to fuck some my wife's gonna fuck some guy. It's gonna be some guy who's like, you know, in shape, you know, like No, like some someone really good. I'm not gonna just uh get some like some some fifty year old guy with like a a belly and like unkept like hair to fuck my wife. Like that's not what that's not what this is about.
How old's your wife, by the way?
How we're both forty eight.
Okay, cool. And she looks great still. I mean listen, you could still look great at forty eight. I mean it's not like all these days.
Like like I said, I think she looks great. Yeah. Like she, like I said, like I said, she's my she's my porn star. Like I think I I married.
That guy liked her too.
Yeah, yeah, that's what I told her. Like yeah, my wife's forty eight, but she doesn't doesn't look forty. Like my wife could like pass for like under forty. Like she
Yeah, no one does nowadays. It's it's very different nowadays, you know what I mean? So that's great. Okay, so when she says uh, you know, what's her push back? It's that I don't know that I can meet another guy that I like, like I don't really wanna find another guy. Like what does she say exactly to you when you bring up bringing in another guy instead of instead of waiting around for this one?
Well, I haven't like to be honest, I haven't really pushed that hard because again it's been only been a couple of weeks, right? But I know I I for me I would like to find her some someone that she could at least talk to or get it in connection with because like I said, it was good for us. Like our sex life was
What's happening is you got you both got probably hits of adrenaline. You felt really high from it. And bec and you were living off this fantasy happening, but because it's the the just the fantasy of it and the realness of her actually meeting someone, all of those hits of adrenaline have worn off and you haven't taken it to the next level.
That's not doing it anymore and you're missing that fucking high. Okay. You gotta relax. Okay. You're not gonna like that high is just like, you know, you you could get that back, but you don't You shouldn't chase it so much. I don't think the words that you say are correct and they're you don't wanna think that you need it in your relationship. It wa it felt really great, but like that's just
That's like uh you know, that adrenaline rush of something new and everything. If you're chasing it too much, it you can get a little nutty about the situation. You don't wanna think that y if you don't have that everything with your wife feels so flat. I mean, I would hope that
¶ Caution, Apps, Organic Search
you know, uh, your sex life has improved and is, you know, can survive without other men all the time.
Uh yeah, I I I I I I'm sure I'm sure it will. But actually we're we're we're having like a a couple's date. uh this Friday and Saturday and I there's a part of me that was act'cause I know who the guy is on Facebook. Like I can like contact him and message him, that that flake guy. I was thinking of messaging him and saying, Hey, we're gonna be here. Why don't you just show up randomly? Like but I don't think
Please, please, okay. You need to listen. Wait, I have not aired the mess the air the episode yet. You need to listen to Nick's episode. When you see an episode with Nick as the name. Okay. To fucking listen, okay, and heed his warning. He thinks he and I it was the most interesting thing uh episode I ever taped. I just haven't posted it yet because it's so fucking good and I don't know when I want to'cause I'm gonna get backlash for it'cause I
Never felt more emotionally charged against somebody for what he did. But I do not believe ever doing something like that. You d listen, your girl is down. She's into it. You could tell her, you tell her to tell him what you just said. Tell her to say, hey, listen, me and my husband are gonna be on this date. Why don't you show up? Let her do it. But that needs to be a consensual thing between the two. Please don't go behind her back and said anything else. She's down
Like I said, like I said, there there was a part of me I probably wasn't gonna end up doing it anyway.
Just don't. At the end of the day don't, okay?
Well th well that well that well that guy has like so th that that flake, he's he's like blocked her on like most of the social media apps except for like why?
I think...
Maybe he was like threatened, maybe like'cause m I think my wife I when they're te in their s in their texting back and forth had mentioned how like I was down with this and I was okay with you know with with her with with me fucking her. Maybe I don't know, maybe the whole hot wifeing dynamic. Turn them off? Like,
Well let me ask you this. Is the guy married? What do you know about him?
No no no no no no no he's he's a single guy, lived by himself. No, no, he's not not married, nothing like that. But I've been told I even told him like if he doesn't understand the dynamic, I like sent like a couple of your S episodes to her to Ford to him, I'm like, tell them to listen to these episodes. Dynamic. I'm like, I'm fine with it. I'm really fine with it. Like just tell them to listen to this. It's okay.
Yeah, yeah. But he does is that it was after she told him that she was married and she had a husband and he was okay with it that he checked out.
Well no, he's st he's still engaged, but then I don't know he told my wife like he wasn't in after all the stuff he says to my wife that, you know, I'm not good and not in a good headspace right now, you know, this isn't good for me. I just think he got completely freaked out.
Like if you told I th I think maybe he was I think maybe he was happy with the texting as well. But I think once it became like real and my wife really wanted to hook up with him, I think that might have scared him off because He's not a bull, right? He's just some guy. He doesn't, I don't think he understands the dynamic. And I think that might have freaked him out. Like that's just speculation.
Yeah, unfortunately you've heard the episodes. A lot of guys who even think that they're bulls, they flake out. You know what I mean? Unfortunately it happens a lot.
Yeah. No, and and like I've even like considered like creating like a Reddit account to try to like get like guys like to to engage in with my wife, but again, I need to talk to my my wife about that, about like how to go about that, right? Like how to set up that account and how she wants to engage with those guys. Like I would I would imagine I would like vet the guys and after if she was cool with it, then the guys would like
talk to her like through telegram or something and that that's how things would would go down. But that's something I need to talk to my wife about.
Well, there was a guy, I don't remember if it was Nick, it was another guy. I don't know if he I aired him yet, who did go online. Oh no, I haven't aired him. This is he's a great guy. Remember to listen to a guy named Ray. Him and his wife for a aren't gonna cross the line. I don't think she's ever really into it. But with her permission, okay, and this is very opposite Nick, okay, Ray has been able to get
off on his hot wifing fantasies by posting anonymous picks, sexy pics of his wife online on Reddit. And he talks about how deep in Reddit I mean, there are places you could do everything that you're talking about. You know what I mean? You just need and he gets off on the guys and his wife actually doesn't like to engage or anything, but she really loves the attention. Like she'll say, How many likes did I get? and blah, blah, blah. So she gets off on
that it makes her feel great about herself and it makes her feel hot, you know. So maybe ask your wife if you could do these things. You know, can I go online on Reddit and see if I could find somebody? Can I post you here? Can we go on an app? Like you have to name all the ways that you can sort of set up another guy if you want this to happen. Doesn't she does she did she only just want it with this guy or does she want to do it in general?
I th I think I think if the right guy came along, I think she c like again, like I didn't think that she would ever consider, but the right ca guy came along, she started considering it, right? So it's obviously something that she would consider. It just has to be the right guy.
Right. But have you said can we go on an app?
Uh no no. Like I've I've I've sort of like hinted around it, but I haven't asked Elra yet, like can we like create like a profile? I don't know. I think we'll probably have that discussion today after this after this conversation.
Listen, it's not like listen, i sh what is the worst like what do you think like why haven't you said that? It's not like what happened is is that far off from what you would be asking her to go on on a site. You know, like why would why is that something you haven't brought up?
I think it's because I've been holding out hope that this guy would like unflake. That's I think that's probably why.
Yeah. Right. And how many times have they set up a time to actually meet up? So three times and he hasn't. And has he ever said, Oh, don't worry, I'm definitely gonna do it or he said, I'm not in a good head headspace, I don't wanna do this anymore.
That's exactly it, the second part.
So he bla he dumped he he backed out totally. Okay, so he's not in the picture. So you're
Well, like I said, like he blocked like in all those social media apps except for like there's only like one social media app where he can s where my wife can still like view his stuff. So like I think there's just probably like the fact that he's hasn't blocked her like everywhere tells me that he's probably a part of him is still kind of interested. That kind of sucks my wife too, right? Because she's really interested in this guy's kind of like
leaving the door open for her, right? So I feel bad for my wife as well. Because like this guy's kind of like, if you're gonna block my wife and cut her out, like just cut her out entirely. Like don't don't like keep like this candle of hope alive.
Yeah, it's terrible. Women women we us as women we live off of one percent chance hope. We can't like go you know what I mean? Even though kinda all signs point uh fuck him, you know what I mean? He cancelled her out on so many other things, he flaked, he's Anybody that says to you in a sentence, I'm not in the right mindset, run for the fucking hills. Okay, that's like uh like why is he talking about his mental health? It's a little scary.
My wife's like like you're like you're sending me dick pics and stuff and saying all this stuff and then you're just gonna like turn me down like this. And there's my wife has a really good friend who's like really sexually adventure adventurous that's kind of been like our pad one
¶ Guiding Wife, Avoiding Unstable Men
Oh cute. Yeah, that's cool.
this like like like like leaning her through this and she was like and she like she'll even like say to her like what's up with this fucking guy like I want this like to happen like so badly like and and her advice has been like don't chase if he wants you let him chase you. So
Yeah. I mean, listen, in this situation, it doesn't matter how you get it, there's no relationship going on here. But I would say, as somebody like when you're playing around in in the lifestyle and in this world, I mean you need people to be solid and I worry
I I mean, and I'll tell you this because I do sh I I've been running a show and I've talked to fourteen hundred people. So I deal with people all the time. And there are certain things that someone might put in an email that I know Oh, I can't ever air this person's episode or have them on because they're mentally unstable and this is the type of person that's gonna cause problems later on, like uh tape the thing, tell me to take it down, start freaking out, you know what I mean?
And when somebody says, I can't do this because I'm not mentally in a good place right now, I personally think you should run for the hills. Okay, because I don't know what that means, but uh you don't wanna deal you don't wanna start get naked with somebody that's mentally unstable. Sorry. Yeah, yeah.
in them that you wanna fuck, okay? Like it's not a it's not a normal thing to tell somebody. It's maybe tell your best friend, you know, but like a woman that you're trying to bang and now you're using your mental health state. Like e either he's lying or he's um uh me mentally unstable and I would watch out for that. You don't want to fuck that. I don't God knows what happens with that.
Yeah, maybe we yeah, maybe we dodged a bullet on this.
Yes, of course you did. I mean did he what did he say again? What was the term? I'm not in mentally in a good place right now.
Y que esto no es bueno para él.
Yeah, so d listen to him and listen, thank God, maybe know thyself. He knows his self. Why do you want to be with someone who's not mentally okay with banging a hot chick if he's he's a man and he's not mentally in the place where he could do something like that? Listen to him and run like I'm saying, I I this is not someone that you want to mess with. You know
Yeah, no that that that's obvious it I even I said that to my wife. I'm like I'm like like this is like every guy's like dream, a woman that just wants to like fuck him. What guy doesn't want this?
But but him, actually, he doesn't. Um for whatever reason he said that and you just need to walk away. Now for your wife, listen, I get where she's at. You know, it was just the right perfect mix of things to make her. She can't imagine
ha you know, recreating this scenario because this is exactly what she wanted, right? But she needs to unwrap her mind on this guy and then get straight and then maybe look for somebody else. So you do need to start looking in a different direction and get her looking in a different direction and tell her
Let's go online. I'll put up fake pictures. Like I'll do all the vetting and you could see the people and then start talking to them and s and we don't have to ever hook up with anyone unless you have a connection, blah, blah, blah. You know what I mean? You have to get her
into looking someone else and forgetting about that guy. This guy. Listen, maybe this guy tomorrow is the dick is gonna be hard and he's gonna be let's go everybody. You know what I mean? He's gonna fuck the shit over. Nothing's gonna happen. Everything's fine. Who knows? That that just icing on the cake, but you can't you gotta let that go for now. Have her let it go. and get her into
thinking about other options and uh taking the pressure off of her. A lot of women don't wanna be involved in looking at the guys. Some some of them don't want to talk to them, but they do need what she got from that guy, which is a lot of times it's like the organic thing. It's
feeling very comfortable with the guy. You know, all that texting back and forth made her feel like she knew him more. She got like a connection with him. A lot of times that's what women need to get horning from a guy. So she's not just gonna you know, the thought of her going on an app and just looking at guys you know, online is not appealing to her, right? It's
Yeah, that's not gonna do it.
No. So she most likely when you say that she's gonna be like, No, that doesn't work. Like I don't I w you know what I mean? I don't want that. So but you could say, Listen, I'll vet the guys and if I think it's someone maybe you just start talking to them like you talk to this other guy, like you have to maybe try to talk her into it. because that's the only other way. Or say do you know anyone else that you know that I mean, she doesn't have any other booty closet? Yeah.
¶ New Prospect Search Strategies
There's there's been there's been this other guy that's been like messaging her on uh on Instagram. But this guy she's like this guy looks like a monkey. Like like I think
But let me just ask you this. What the another guy's hitting on her on Facebook?
So this was a guy that she had gone to uh high school with? So on Instagram he's like he's like messaging her like she'll put like a post of something on Instagram and he'll send like twenty comments like back and forth. And he'll be making he'll be making like you know, very like you know a lot of sexual innuendo like nice comments back back and forth. But this guy's ugly cat.
But you know what that is? Listen, I'm telling you back in the day when Facebook came around, I don't go on there anymore. But I remember one day the minute I went on there, so many like married guys from my high school were like hitting on me. Like, I mean that shit happens. That's like a prime place to get hit.
Hit on by people. She should go back onto Facebook and start posting hot pics of herself and she's gonna get all these guys maybe that she knew that are kind of cute hitting on her. You know, maybe it has to happen organic for her and I think sometimes that's the that's
That's the prime place. There are all those people from her old high school that probably still wanna fuck her that would do it. Trust me. Th where that that guy, there's many of those guys on Instagram and you just need a good looking one.
Well to be honest, like if this guy w if this guy the Instagram guy that's ugly, if he was like better looking, yeah I I think my wife would be like considering it.
That's what I mean.
Th th the the seeds have definitely been planted and I my wife I'm sure is more than willing to engage in these type of The same behavior like again. It's just the right person.
person. Yes. And you need to help her with that. And maybe it's you doing all the work, you vetting the people. you finding out and then maybe passing it on to her and telling her like you could talk to the person for a while. I'll me you know her by now. You could say, I'll find a guy that I know that you would like, very good looking You know, l and you know, and say, Can I just go on and look? Just say that. Just say, Can I just go on and look?
you know, for now. And then most likely you're gonna find like a hot guy and you're gonna show it to her and if like maybe she thinks he's like super hot, she'll give it a try and start talking to him, you know what I mean? And then then the ball's rolling again. But you gotta get her to approve of you going on the app and you have to get her to approve by making her know that like you're gonna do all the work
you're you know, she doesn't have to do anything if she doesn't want to. Let's just go on and look. Like make it no commitment kind of thing. You know what I mean? Because she's the type of woman, obviously. If the right guy
comes into play and she kinda sees him and he's kinda key like she might go there, you know, and that's what's gonna that could happen on an app, but you need to take the pressure off of her because some women don't like the thought of like the setting it all up kind of situation. Do you know what I mean?
Yeah. That's probably I think that's a good conversation for us to have uh on our date night uh this weekend. I
Yes, but please don't but and why don't you tell her? I mean, I don't know. I think you should give up on the uh guy. How was he a young guy? Was he young or old?
He was like he was like early thirties.
You need a different you need a different guy and you need to get her on. Listen, you are so close. You're even closer than that other guy, okay? That other guy was just fantasizing. I forget what his name was, but he was good. And he was like right at the verge.
Um, you know, telling her he wants it in real life. Your girl, and listen, your girl is so down that she even was the one that like kind of initiated it. You know what I mean? The minute she saw a hot guy, she was like on it. And think about that.
And even for you. And I you know, I think I said before, like, oh, you guys love that intense thing, but like, why wouldn't you? You know, I I think it's more normal for both of you to be really into that high of the newness and everything, because you're two people that like only had each other your whole life, right?
Like I fucked millions of guys and had that newness feeling a million times. You guys have never felt it since w you had it with e just each other. So I you know, I think that, you know, she would love another hot guy to like like her again.
Well in Nephra when we we're we're sending like naughty texts back and forth to each other Oh like she'll send me like how do I look in this? Like she's like she'll be shopping and I'll say, Oh th you look great and Never always text back It'd be a shame for me to it would be very selfish for me to keep you all to myself.
Right.
That's always that that's that is always like it like I think like I said like most guys my wife is my porn star and I think it would be it would be a shame. For me if she never got to experience someone else or have other sexual experiences.
¶ Future Plans, Final Advice
Well listen, she's obviously down. Okay, she was gonna do it with this guy. There is another guy out there. The star, all the stars will align, but you need to help that situation and you need to try to make it happen. In the meantime, you can try what my uh caller who have an
aired yet Ray did, which is ask her, can you post pictures of her and get guys checking around? Can you go or can you go looking either online or on Reddit for a guy and tell her you'll do all the work. Try to figure out what would make her most comfortable. in setting up the situation, uh, again that is in real life and let her know that how how much it turned you on. It turned her on too, obviously.
Oh yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah, a hundred percent admit to that. But uh yeah, I'll definitely try these things and maybe who knows, maybe I'm calling in a year from now with a with a follow up I think that would
For sure. And listen, I wouldn't be surprised if three weeks from now the you know, the mental head c guy calls up and he's fine. You know what I mean? Who knows if it passes? But the fact that he blocked her, I it's very bizarre, but uh he some he went through something, you know. So I think but keep me posted. We would love the part two. I mean, remember I gave that last guy homework. I said, Oh, take three weeks.
to tell your wife and he didn't. And I don't think three weeks was a long time. Let's hear from you in six months or a year, have you guys been able to find another guy for your girl? I think you will be able to, you know? Um, I and it just it's just gonna take a little bit more work this time, but uh you know
find another hot guy and I think when she sees the hot guy she'll be down to talk to him. She just probably in her mind thinking, Oh, any guy that's on an app looking for a couple of'em is like sleazy or gross or whatever, you know what I mean? Like it's all the unknown to her. Just, you know, give her no commitment, no uh make it like no big deal. Let me just go on and look. You know what I mean? Let just look.
Yeah, and and this world this world is foreign to her, right? Like I'm I'm far more immersed in this world. Like uh like I said, listen to your post. podcast for five years. I listened to I listen to uh the Hot Wife podcast. I know like Mrs. M Mrs. Milford and like Ozzy Kate. I listen to that as that as well. Like so I'm immersed in this world. So I'm definitely more well versed in this than than she is. She's like just a newbie like has no idea about like everything that's going on.
She just and she just liked the ha attention of a hot guy. She never had it, not for so long. You know what I mean? So she's like so you need to like sort of guide her, you need to push her a little bit, you need to uh tell her uh that you're gonna make it happen again in some other way and you need to make her comfortable with that way.
And like I said, i the best way to do that is to just be really chill about it. Make it not like any commitment on her part. Tell her, You'll do all the work like I said this ten times. You know what I'm saying. Let's see what happens when you do that. You know, you might need to go on a nap or go on Reddit. Reddit is a place where people meet people all the time.
That's great advice, Kathy. And uh yeah, I really hope that I'm I'm back on here in six.
You will be. I mean, come on, you didn't get this close and it's all gonna end. You can't let it. Just like you didn't let that list go by and let her blow it off like so many r average people would have done. You kept on it, you know, you really made changes.
here, you're really like just one guy away from having uh your hot wifing fantasy and your girl getting the fuck another guy and you're both gonna be super happy because do you know what I mean? And listen, maybe if she's that pretty she'll get another guy hitting on her at work.
Yeah, and and actually it's it's funny that uh when so that that when I said before that when she first considered and said, Hey if this were to happen, here's what would be I'm I told her like, My God, is this gonna happen? I told him like, Am I are we gonna be able to phone in to like Kathy and talk to her talk to her about this?
What you say?
And then she just started.
Okay. Will you let her listen to this episode? No.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I will. Like we're we're an open book. I will.
Okay, so listen, okay, Kevin, quote unquote's wife. You're Kevin, right? Fake Kevin, that's your name. Okay. Kevin, listen uh I understand you're a woman. My guy recently, my booty call guy recently told me I could go fuck someone else he'd like it. I was like so horny for it. It really the thought of it, it was the same thing. Like sometimes what just when you s think you're gonna do it in real life, it becomes such a turn on. You know what I mean? Like an
And then it dissipates after a while if it doesn't happen, right? There's timing to all that stuff for a while. And that's what you're missing, right? It was like that high of like thinking it's gonna happen. I had that with him and then I tried to make it happen with guys that I knew.
and I couldn't and then I gave it up because the last thing I wanna do is go on a nap and find a guy, you know, and I totally understand it. But my guy's not gonna take the rein and go fucking look and everything. He's just too busy. So that's not gonna happen for me, but you know, because you are gonna do that for her, okay?
She should uh allow you to okay, allow him to go online, set it up, just find guys and let him pick out three hot dudes for you to just look at and look through their profile and then if you feel like it Go talk to them because where there's one, there's many. There's another hot guy like the guy on Facebook. Go after somebody else. Okay? Okay.
Alright.
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