Strange Loop Podcast

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Conversations at the edge of artificial intelligence and human knowledge. Hosted by Joel Hellermark.

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Anton Osika | On building Lovable: AI for the 99%

Lovable founder and former Sana engineer Anton Osika joins Joel Hellermark to share how the most successful AI tools of today are turning non‑developers into product builders and million‑dollar founders. They dig into the origins of Lovable, the coming “SaaSpocalypse” for SaaS, and why the real differentiator now is taste, problem selection, and designing software that feels good to use. If you think AI is a developer story, this episode will change your mind. Transcript: https://sanalabs.com/st...

Jun 17, 2026•29 min

David Deutsch | AGI, the origins of quantum computing, and the future of humanity

Physicist David Deutsch explores human knowledge creation, highlighting why our creativity for cultural transmission is unique and fundamentally differs from current AI systems. He delves into the concept of AGIs as persons with rights, property, and independent minds, challenging assumptions about rapid knowledge acceleration through AGI clones. The conversation also covers quantum computing's role in understanding computational reality, the future of data security, and humanity's profound cosmic significance as explanation-creating beings, while sharing Deutsch's personal motivations for research.

Sep 03, 2025•58 min

Episode Preview | David Deutsch

The founding father of quantum computing David Deutsch sits down with Spotify's Co-President Gustav Söderström and Sana's founder and CEO Joel Hellermark at David's home in Oxfordshire to discuss the nature of knowledge, creativity, AGI, and what truly makes humans unique in the universe. Subscribe to get the full episode as soon as it launches.

Sep 02, 2025•45 sec

Garry Kasparov | Lessons from chess in an AI world

Garry Kasparov knows what it means to play at the edge of human potential. In this episode of Strange Loop, the legendary chess champion and human rights advocate joins Sana founder and CEO Joel Hellermark to explore how chess became the proving ground for AI, why intuition and creativity still matter, and what happens as machines begin to outpace their creators. Together, they dive into the psychological drama of elite competition, the dangers and opportunities of AI in the real world, and the ...

Jul 09, 2025•45 min

Andrew Ng | Why AI coding is the new literacy

This episode is part of our “Summer Selects” series—curated archival episodes that shifted our perspective and are worth revisiting. Most people think of AI as a tool for experts and big tech. Andrew Ng argues that the real revolution begins when “AI coding is the new literacy”—and building AI moves from the hands of a few "high priests" to everyone. In this archival episode of Strange Loop, AI pioneer and educator Andrew Ng joins Sana founder and CEO Joel Hellermark for a candid, wide-ranging c...

Jul 01, 2025•30 min

Jensen Huang | Building the teams behind the world’s fastest AI

This episode is part of our “Summer Selects” series—curated archival episodes that shifted our perspective and are worth revisiting. NVIDIA founder and CEO Jensen Huang reveals the leadership philosophies and management practices that have made NVIDIA a powerhouse of AI and accelerated computing. Jensen discusses why first-principles thinking is at the core of his decision-making, how he shapes company strategy through action—not words—and why he believes in empowering teams to pursue “barely po...

Jun 26, 2025•48 min

Max Tegmark | What we can’t ignore in the AI revolution

This episode is part of our “Summer Selects” series—curated archival episodes that shifted our perspective and are worth revisiting. MIT physicist and AI researcher Max Tegmark shares his bold perspective on the promises, risks, and mysteries at the heart of today’s AI revolution. Max discusses how his journey from studying the universe to exploring the human mind shapes his unique approach to artificial intelligence. He delves into the astonishing speed of AI development, the profound societal ...

Jun 26, 2025•45 min

Daphne Koller | How machine learning could save millions of lives

This episode is part of our “Summer Selects” series—curated archival episodes that shifted our perspective and are worth revisiting. Daphne Koller—AI pioneer, founder of Coursera, and CEO of Insitro—sits down with Sana founder and CEO Joel Hellermark to explore the groundbreaking intersection of digital technology, scientific discovery, and human health. In this episode of Strange Loop, Daphne shares her inspiring journey from a prodigious student to leading some of the most important advances i...

Jun 26, 2025•50 min

Geoffrey Hinton | Rethinking AI’s power and limits

This episode is part of our “Summer Selects” series—curated archival episodes that shifted our perspective and are worth revisiting. Hear the Godfather of AI Geoffrey Hinton reflect on the journey from the early days of neural networks to today’s breakthroughs in artificial intelligence, sharing unique insights from decades of pioneering research. Discover why Hinton believes that scaling up AI models leads to creativity and reasoning that rivals (and may eventually surpass) human intelligence. ...

Jun 26, 2025•46 min

Ethan Mollick | How to build an AI-first organization

Most companies are using AI to cut costs. Ethan Mollick argues that the biggest mistake companies make is thinking too small. In the first episode of Strange Loop, Wharton professor and leading AI researcher Ethan Mollick joins Sana founder and CEO Joel Hellermark for a candid and wide-ranging conversation about the rapidly changing world of AI at work. They explore how AI is not just an efficiency tool but a turning point—one that forces a choice between incremental optimization and transformat...

Jun 06, 2025•1 hr 1 min

Episode Preview: Ethan Mollick

Most companies are using AI to cut costs. Ethan Mollick argues they’re missing the bigger opportunity. In this episode preview from Strange Loop Podcast, Ethan explains the strategic crossroads AI creates for every business: Use AI to do more with fewer people or use it to scale ambition and build something transformative. This clip is a glimpse into a bigger conversation with Sana's founder and CEO Joel Hellermark on how AI is reshaping work, leadership, and learning. Subscribe to get the full ...

Jun 02, 2025•25 sec

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